From paulbhunt73 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  1 01:55:26 2024
From: paulbhunt73 at gmail.com (Paul Hunt)
Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2024 08:55:26 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] lowering rubber bumper car
In-Reply-To: <CA52CF8F-2273-439C-88AF-B532CF574056@sonic.net>
References: <65b97629.170a0220.f7c8d.3baf@mx.google.com>
 <1f465f8b-115b-4e5a-8c2e-91b7b606f5fe@gmail.com>
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If you change the crossmember you would also have to change the steering 
rack and the steering column as the relative lengths of the shafts 
changed.? That was needed so the RB rack shaft could pass though the 
right-hand engine mount bracket instead of fouling it.

Whilst you can obviously do fairly extensive body modifications to the 
front and rear suspension mounting points to lower the car to keep the 
same springs, I've only ever hear of people doing it by changing springs 
and bump stops.

PaulH.

On 31/01/2024 17:00, Max Heim wrote:
> I can see how using cut-down springs, for example, could change the geometry. But what I am wondering is why one couldn?t just install the entire front suspension from a CB car, including the crossmember, thereby duplicating the ride height and geometry of the original design? I don?t believe the RB cars changed the tub or the attachment points of the crossmember, did they? It?s possible that I don?t know what I?m talking about, however ? I have never had anything to do with RBs.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
>

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Feb  4 09:47:19 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 16:47:19 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] FW: Wheels
In-Reply-To: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058@mail.yahoo.com>
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A friend of mine came across these and was wondering what kind of wheels they are and what they might be worth.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Feb  4 10:06:05 2024
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:06:05 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] [TR] FW: Wheels
In-Reply-To: <CAFtw3abVH0whpcaNo4Xsibw5J3K7xi3aKPGkhxNLtLpUp6qpog@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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FYI a wheel is measured from the bead seal to bead seal so I believe these are 7 ?? wheels

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From lrc at red4est.com  Sun Feb  4 11:42:02 2024
From: lrc at red4est.com (lrc at red4est.com)
Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2024 10:42:02 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] FW: Wheels
In-Reply-To: <a738128bb7ef4e85a6085964c195f707@ranteer.com>
References: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <571C22BE-0B88-43D6-893B-92A915E23193@red4est.com>

They kind of look like old BBS wheels

On February 4, 2024 8:47:19 AM PST, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>A friend of mine came across these and was wondering what kind of wheels they are and what they might be worth.

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From herr_dorsch at yahoo.com  Sun Feb  4 12:56:46 2024
From: herr_dorsch at yahoo.com (Zach Dorsch)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 19:56:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] FW: Wheels
In-Reply-To: <a738128bb7ef4e85a6085964c195f707@ranteer.com>
References: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a738128bb7ef4e85a6085964c195f707@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <1294603683.4117138.1707076606800@mail.yahoo.com>

Makers mark will influence price. I would double check the PCD to make sure they fit a B. Most of the vintage wheels that fit a B tended to be 14? and not 15?.?


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A friend of mine came across these and was wondering what kind of wheels they are and what they might be worth.
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From allen.k.hess at gmail.com  Sun Feb  4 15:58:02 2024
From: allen.k.hess at gmail.com (Allen Hess)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 17:58:02 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] FW Wheels
Message-ID: <1FEDE27B-C475-4686-9717-969C3526E1A4@gmail.com>

they might be Appliance, https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/c1-and-c2-corvettes/4641493-mag-wheels-made-in-japan.html

There are lots and lots of similar ones. You need to compare the ?spoke? pattern carefully. 


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From lrc at red4est.com  Sun Feb  4 22:29:31 2024
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2024 21:29:31 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Wheels
In-Reply-To: <1294603683.4117138.1707076606800@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1475994337.4048742.1707061779058@mail.yahoo.com>
 <a738128bb7ef4e85a6085964c195f707@ranteer.com>
 <1294603683.4117138.1707076606800@mail.yahoo.com>
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Datsun 240Z (fairlady) at least through the 280Z had the same bolt pattern as MGB and a workable offset.  I did find out one day that the center hole on some Datsun wheels is too small to fit over the bearing cap on the MGB when I took my car to the track and the wheels wouldn't bolt on straight.



> On Feb 4, 2024, at 11:56 AM, Zach Dorsch <herr_dorsch at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Makers mark will influence price. I would double check the PCD to make sure they fit a B. Most of the vintage wheels that fit a B tended to be 14? and not 15?. 
> 
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
> 
> On Sunday, February 4, 2024, 12:57 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> A friend of mine came across these and was wondering what kind of wheels they are and what they might be worth.
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From wkilleffer at epbfi.com  Sun Feb 25 14:20:00 2024
From: wkilleffer at epbfi.com (William Killeffer)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:20:00 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Coil resistance for Lucas 25D
Message-ID: <D7B079A5-C4CE-4D9F-BBD1-E3C009485358@epbfi.com>

Hello everyone,

My car's a 1974 MGB with an 18GK engine and twin HS4 carbs. I've been running a Pertronix distributor with its matching coil for awhile, but just got the car's 25D back from Jeff at Advance, and it looks better than what it probably did when it was new. I'm going to go back to using points and condenser with the rebuilt distributor. 

I still have the factory Lucas coil that came with the car when I first obtained it. I checked the resistance to see if it was still useful, and here's what I found:

With a small handheld analog meter, it registered around 6700ohm across the secondary, and the little meter's not capable of giving a reading for the primary.

On the new-to-me Sears Engine Analyzer, the primary shows 5.6ohm and the secondary shows 5100ohm.

Either way, that looks too high given some of the other numbers I've seen. I haven't checked the Pertronix coil, but will before trying to use it.

Am I right in believing this original coil shouldn't be used?

Thank you,
-Bill
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From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com  Sun Feb 25 14:55:27 2024
From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews)
Date: Sun, 25 Feb 2024 16:55:27 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Coil resistance for Lucas 25D
In-Reply-To: <D7B079A5-C4CE-4D9F-BBD1-E3C009485358@epbfi.com>
References: <D7B079A5-C4CE-4D9F-BBD1-E3C009485358@epbfi.com>
Message-ID: <CAEUYfyOqvx8J-VBLR98V=MtU3JL4_TBB-WQN2PMR3_JL_n5fDw@mail.gmail.com>

William,

The primary should either show a very low resistance or the resistance
of the ballast resistor. I think that the 5.6ohm measurement indicates
an internal ballast. So, the question is, does your car have an
external ballast resistor?

The secondary of an ignition coil may show infinite resistance with a
meter, and still work. This is because when they made these coils
originally, they allowed 3 breaks in the secondary when winding. The
secondary has a thin insulating layer, which is sufficiently thin that
it will break down when operating, allowing current to pass. When the
wire broke during the winding process, they twisted the ends together
and continued.

The coil may well be OK.

Simon

On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 4:24?PM William Killeffer <wkilleffer at epbfi.com> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> My car's a 1974 MGB with an 18GK engine and twin HS4 carbs. I've been running a Pertronix distributor with its matching coil for awhile, but just got the car's 25D back from Jeff at Advance, and it looks better than what it probably did when it was new. I'm going to go back to using points and condenser with the rebuilt distributor.
>
> I still have the factory Lucas coil that came with the car when I first obtained it. I checked the resistance to see if it was still useful, and here's what I found:
>
> With a small handheld analog meter, it registered around 6700ohm across the secondary, and the little meter's not capable of giving a reading for the primary.
>
> On the new-to-me Sears Engine Analyzer, the primary shows 5.6ohm and the secondary shows 5100ohm.
>
> Either way, that looks too high given some of the other numbers I've seen. I haven't checked the Pertronix coil, but will before trying to use it.
>
> Am I right in believing this original coil shouldn't be used?
>
> Thank you,
> -Bill
> Sent from my iPhone
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From paulbhunt73 at gmail.com  Mon Feb 26 01:34:32 2024
From: paulbhunt73 at gmail.com (Paul Hunt)
Date: Mon, 26 Feb 2024 08:34:32 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Coil resistance for Lucas 25D
In-Reply-To: <D7B079A5-C4CE-4D9F-BBD1-E3C009485358@epbfi.com>
References: <D7B079A5-C4CE-4D9F-BBD1-E3C009485358@epbfi.com>
Message-ID: <b04b6100-08c8-4529-b865-3e1f276ca3da@gmail.com>

As they came out of the factory the primary for a CB should be 3.1 to 
3.5 ohms.? For RB cars and points ignition they were 1.5 ohms, with the 
45DE4 electronic distributor they were 1.4 ohms, both with a 1.5 ohms 
(approx) ballast resistance contained with the harness, which meant the 
overall resistance and hence current are about the same for both CB and 
RB.? With the 45DM4 distributor they were 0.8 ohms with no ballast, 
which gave a very high coil current but the 45DM4 is a variable dwell 
system which gives very short pulses of current to the coil, much 
shorter than points.

An easier way to check the overall system is to remove the wiring from 
the coil -ve or CB, turn on the ignition, and connect an ammeter between 
the coil -ve or CB and earth.? With points and 45DE4 you should see 
about 4 amps.? With 45DM4 you should see about 15 amps which may well be 
above the capacity of your ammeter, disconnect immediately, only run 
that coil with a variable dwell system.

Lower than 4 amps you may well have a 12v 3 ohm coil in series with a 
ballast resistance which will give a reduced spark.? Higher - up to 
about 8 amps - you may have a 6v 1.5 ohm coil with no ballast 
resistance, this will overheat on anything except a variable dwell 
electronic system, and with points will burn them.

PaulH.

On 25/02/2024 21:20, William Killeffer wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> My car's a 1974 MGB with an 18GK engine and twin HS4 carbs. I've been 
> running a Pertronix distributor with its matching coil for awhile, but 
> just got the car's 25D back from Jeff at Advance, and it looks better 
> than what it probably did when it was new. I'm going to go back to 
> using points and condenser with the rebuilt distributor.
>
> I still have the factory Lucas coil that came with the car when I 
> first obtained it. I checked the resistance to see if it was still 
> useful, and here's what I found:
>
> With a small handheld analog meter, it registered around 6700ohm 
> across the secondary, and the little meter's not capable of giving a 
> reading for the primary.
>
> On the new-to-me Sears Engine Analyzer, the primary shows 5.6ohm and 
> the secondary shows 5100ohm.
>
> Either way, that looks too high given some of the other numbers I've 
> seen. I haven't checked the Pertronix coil, but will before trying to 
> use it.
>
> Am I right in believing this original coil shouldn't be used?
>
> Thank you,
> -Bill
> Sent from my iPhone
>
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>
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From lrc at red4est.com  Tue Feb 27 13:01:57 2024
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2024 12:01:57 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
Message-ID: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>

Today I learned that one of the six cars in the first Cannonball Baker sea to shining sea trophy dash was an MGBGT

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15143608/the-cannonball-baker-sea-to-shining-sea-memorial-trophy-dash-archived-feature/

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From paulbhunt73 at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 01:11:11 2024
From: paulbhunt73 at gmail.com (Paul Hunt)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 08:11:11 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
In-Reply-To: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>
References: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <f446f92f-81c9-4878-ab61-6be8d77248e3@gmail.com>

"six outlandish vehicles" is bad enough?? But "... and a TWA stewardess, 
for God?s sake"?? How times have changed ...

On 27/02/2024 20:01, Larry Colen wrote:
> Today I learned that one of the six cars in the first Cannonball Baker sea to shining sea trophy dash was an MGBGT
>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15143608/the-cannonball-baker-sea-to-shining-sea-memorial-trophy-dash-archived-feature/
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 04:55:30 2024
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 06:55:30 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
In-Reply-To: <f446f92f-81c9-4878-ab61-6be8d77248e3@gmail.com>
References: <f446f92f-81c9-4878-ab61-6be8d77248e3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9769E52D-D00A-4C3F-8D99-3F98545D70BC@gmail.com>

	Not reported was how the MGB fared.


> On 28 Feb 2024, at 03:25, Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> "six outlandish vehicles" is bad enough?  But "... and a TWA stewardess, for God?s sake"?  How times have changed ...
> 
>> On 27/02/2024 20:01, Larry Colen wrote:
>> Today I learned that one of the six cars in the first Cannonball Baker sea to shining sea trophy dash was an MGBGT
>> 
>> https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15143608/the-cannonball-baker-sea-to-shining-sea-memorial-trophy-dash-archived-feature/
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 05:31:54 2024
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 07:31:54 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
In-Reply-To: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>
References: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+mAh7qA9Gw=KrRWzMNr_jvEz38WzOQGa3OjQsbH0=cvEA@mail.gmail.com>

Man, I remember this. I was a CD subscriber for decades, starting around
this time. Still have hundreds of them (and Road and Track, Hot Rod, etc).
This was really great automotive writing and adventure. The magazines are a
shadow of themselves these days.

Dan D
'76 MGB
Central NJ USA

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 3:48?PM Larry Colen <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:

> Today I learned that one of the six cars in the first Cannonball Baker sea
> to shining sea trophy dash was an MGBGT
>
>
> https://www.caranddriver.com/features/columns/a15143608/the-cannonball-baker-sea-to-shining-sea-memorial-trophy-dash-archived-feature/
>
> --
> Larry Colen
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From britfan1 at epix.net  Wed Feb 28 08:20:40 2024
From: britfan1 at epix.net (S.Carr)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:20:40 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
In-Reply-To: <9769E52D-D00A-4C3F-8D99-3F98545D70BC@gmail.com>
References: <f446f92f-81c9-4878-ab61-6be8d77248e3@gmail.com>
 <9769E52D-D00A-4C3F-8D99-3F98545D70BC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1632382773.529849.1709133645286@epix.net>

      According to Brock Yates? book about the race,  Cannonball!, the B/GT dropped out in Columbus, Ohio, with a slipping clutch, having averaged 74 mph?560 miles in 7:45.  
      I knew well the second-place finisher, the late Oscar Koveleski?he admitted long afterwards that it was a crazy idea and would never do it again.

Sarah Carr
?71 B/GT in PA

Sent from Mail for Windows

From: Robert's New iPad
Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2024 7:02 AM
To: Paul Hunt
Cc: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting

	Not reported was how the MGB fared.
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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Wed Feb 28 10:05:00 2024
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 17:05:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+mAh7qA9Gw=KrRWzMNr_jvEz38WzOQGa3OjQsbH0=cvEA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CCEC4D84-DB43-49CF-8BB5-8A2DCD7642B2@red4est.com>
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 On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 04:45:47 AM PST, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote: 
 > Man, I remember this. I was a CD subscriber for decades, starting around this?> time. Still have hundreds of them?(and Road and Track, Hot Rod, etc). This was?> really great automotive writing and adventure. The magazines are a shadow of?> themselves these days.
Yeah, I began subscribing to C/D in high school, so almost 50 years ago.? It stoodout from the pack because of its excellent writing and irreverent attitude.? I stillget it, but I don't think I've cracked the cover of one in over a year.? It just isn'tcompelling anymore.? A lot of the best writers got pulled away into David Davis'?Automobile Magazine, which later folded, and left C/D bereft. 
 
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From lrc at red4est.com  Wed Feb 28 11:45:05 2024
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 10:45:05 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
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> On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:05 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 04:45:47 AM PST, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Man, I remember this. I was a CD subscriber for decades, starting around this 
> > time. Still have hundreds of them (and Road and Track, Hot Rod, etc). This was 
> > really great automotive writing and adventure. The magazines are a shadow of 
> > themselves these days.
> 
> Yeah, I began subscribing to C/D in high school, so almost 50 years ago.  It stood
> out from the pack because of its excellent writing and irreverent attitude.  I still
> get it, but I don't think I've cracked the cover of one in over a year.  It just isn't
> compelling anymore.  A lot of the best writers got pulled away into David Davis' 
> Automobile Magazine, which later folded, and left C/D bereft. 

Yeah C/D was the most fun of the lot.  I thought that R/T had the best technical stuff, and but I loved Peter Egan's column.  His story of driving a Frogeye from Wisconsin(?) back to Southern California was a classic.  I loved the line "65 MPH is 4000 RPM, All. Day. Long."  I also loved reading Satch Carlson and Denise McCluggage in Autoweek.  It turned out that my dad peripherally knw McCluggage when he raced MGs in the Northeast back in the 50's.


--
Larry Colen
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 13:22:22 2024
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:22:22 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
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And let's not forget Henry N Manney III....

Dan D

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 2:58?PM Larry Colen <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:05 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 04:45:47 AM PST, Dan DiBiase <
> dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Man, I remember this. I was a CD subscriber for decades, starting
> around this
> > > time. Still have hundreds of them (and Road and Track, Hot Rod, etc).
> This was
> > > really great automotive writing and adventure. The magazines are a
> shadow of
> > > themselves these days.
> >
> > Yeah, I began subscribing to C/D in high school, so almost 50 years
> ago.  It stood
> > out from the pack because of its excellent writing and irreverent
> attitude.  I still
> > get it, but I don't think I've cracked the cover of one in over a year.
> It just isn't
> > compelling anymore.  A lot of the best writers got pulled away into
> David Davis'
> > Automobile Magazine, which later folded, and left C/D bereft.
>
> Yeah C/D was the most fun of the lot.  I thought that R/T had the best
> technical stuff, and but I loved Peter Egan's column.  His story of driving
> a Frogeye from Wisconsin(?) back to Southern California was a classic.  I
> loved the line "65 MPH is 4000 RPM, All. Day. Long."  I also loved reading
> Satch Carlson and Denise McCluggage in Autoweek.  It turned out that my dad
> peripherally knw McCluggage when he raced MGs in the Northeast back in the
> 50's.
>
>
> --
> Larry Colen
> lrc at red4est.com  sent from ret13est
>
>
>
>
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From dtwoerpel at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 15:00:14 2024
From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 16:00:14 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
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Must add: L.J.K. Setright and Motor Magazine's, William Boddy. Dang, I'm 
old.?? That new guy Levy isn't too bad.? ;-)
Dave W
'59 MGA 1500
'59 :{)
"Pay It Forward"


On 2/28/2024 2:22 PM, Dan DiBiase wrote:
> And let's not forget Henry N Manney III....
>
> Dan D
>
> On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 2:58?PM Larry Colen <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>     > On Feb 28, 2024, at 9:05 AM, David Breneman
>     <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     > On Wednesday, February 28, 2024 at 04:45:47 AM PST, Dan DiBiase
>     <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >
>     > > Man, I remember this. I was a CD subscriber for decades,
>     starting around this
>     > > time. Still have hundreds of them (and Road and Track, Hot
>     Rod, etc). This was
>     > > really great automotive writing and adventure. The magazines
>     are a shadow of
>     > > themselves these days.
>     >
>     > Yeah, I began subscribing to C/D in high school, so almost 50
>     years ago.? It stood
>     > out from the pack because of its excellent writing and
>     irreverent attitude.? I still
>     > get it, but I don't think I've cracked the cover of one in over
>     a year.? It just isn't
>     > compelling anymore.? A lot of the best writers got pulled away
>     into David Davis'
>     > Automobile Magazine, which later folded, and left C/D bereft.
>
>     Yeah C/D was the most fun of the lot.? I thought that R/T had the
>     best technical stuff, and but I loved Peter Egan's column.? His
>     story of driving a Frogeye from Wisconsin(?) back to Southern
>     California was a classic.? I loved the line "65 MPH is 4000 RPM,
>     All. Day. Long."? I also loved reading Satch Carlson and Denise
>     McCluggage in Autoweek.? It turned out that my dad peripherally
>     knw McCluggage when he raced MGs in the Northeast back in the 50's.
>
>
>     --
>     Larry Colen
>     lrc at red4est.com sent from ret13est
>
>
>
>
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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Feb 28 15:50:04 2024
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 15:50:04 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
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Peter Egan, Road & Track.

mjb.


From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Wed Feb 28 10:10:44 2024
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2024 12:10:44 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
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Oscar also ran Auto World which was my go-to source for car models back in
the day..... Used to love to get that catalog in the mail. I may even have
one or two tucked away with my car mags... I see they still have an on-line
presence.

Dan D
'76 MGB
Central NJ USA

On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 11:23?AM S.Carr <britfan1 at epix.net> wrote:

> According to Brock Yates? book about the race, * Cannonball!*, the B/GT
> dropped out in Columbus, Ohio, with a slipping clutch, having averaged 74
> mph?560 miles in 7:45.
>
> I knew well the second-place finisher, the late Oscar Koveleski?he
> admitted long afterwards that it was a crazy idea and would never do it
> again.
>
>
>
> Sarah Carr
>
> ?71 B/GT in PA
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows
>
>
>
> *From: *Robert's New iPad <mgbobh at gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, February 28, 2024 7:02 AM
> *To: *Paul Hunt <paulbhunt73 at gmail.com>
> *Cc: *mgs at autox.team.net
> *Subject: *Re: [Mgs] Vintage MGBGT sighting
>
>
>
>                 Not reported was how the MGB fared.
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