From dave at ranteer.com Tue Apr 4 21:41:38 2023 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 03:41:38 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] radiator question Message-ID: I am getting an aluminum radiator from Wizard. They want to put a 16 lb cap on it for an early 5 main MGB engine. Is that going to be ok or do I need to specify more like a 7 lb? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chillmog at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 4 21:57:41 2023 From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill) Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2023 22:57:41 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] radiator question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The radiator will be fine, but the heater core might not take the pressure. Charles Hill On 4/4/2023 10:41 PM, dave northrup wrote: > > I am getting an aluminum radiator from Wizard.? They want to put a 16 > lb cap on it for an early 5 main MGB engine.? 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URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Wed Apr 5 01:54:18 2023 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 08:54:18 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] radiator question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Use what the car originally had.? According to Clausager cars originally had a 10psi cap changing to 13psi in 76.? For 77 and the electric fans North America got 14psi but elsewhere seems to have reverted to 10psi.? In normal running they only get up to a few psi, electric fan cars getting up to about 10 before the fans cut in. PaulH. On 05/04/2023 04:41, dave northrup wrote: > > I am getting an aluminum radiator from Wizard.? They want to put a 16 > lb cap on it for an early 5 main MGB engine.? Is that going to be ok > or do I need to specify more like a 7 lb? > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Wed Apr 5 05:23:37 2023 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2023 06:23:37 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] radiator question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I put an Al radiator in my '72 MGB and stayed with a '7 pound' cap - and I live in the solar-oven called Houston, Texas. The new radiator is do efficient that the few degrees of boiling point elevation given by a higher pressure system is, in my car's case, unnecessary - plus it adds stress on hoses, gaskets and as Mr. Hill says, the many decades old heater core. Worth including: My MGB uses a 50:50 green antifreeze and distilled water coolant mixture. R. On Tue, Apr 4, 2023, 10:55 PM dave northrup wrote: > I am getting an aluminum radiator from Wizard. They want to put a 16 lb > cap on it for an early 5 main MGB engine. Is that going to be ok or do I > need to specify more like a 7 lb? > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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After reviewing the pictures that I took (attached) I realize that I used the cap that came with the Al radiator and just <i>assumed</i> that it was a 7# cap. My bad, sorry.?<br /><div class="gmail_extra"><br /><div class="gmail_quote">On Apr 5, 2023 6:23 AM, Richard Lindsay &lt;richardolindsay&#64;gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br /><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>? ?I put an Al radiator in my &#39;72 MGB and stayed with a &#39;7 pound&#39; cap...</div></div> </blockquote></div><br /></div></div></div> From dave at ranteer.com Mon Apr 10 09:50:22 2023 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 15:50:22 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question Message-ID: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. I suspect these are mga carbs? And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20230410_102706.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 4116422 bytes Desc: 20230410_102706.jpg URL: From dcouncill at karamursel.org Mon Apr 10 11:52:48 2023 From: dcouncill at karamursel.org (David Councill) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 10:52:48 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> Message-ID: This is a set of HS4s. The float bowl lid indicates a later version (early 70s). I see a tag on the front carb but can't read the number. That would give you the exact model - AUD followed by three digits. I see a lot wrong in the picture. I can't find any of my carb pictures, but I'll take a few pictures later today if no one else responds. David Councill 64B, 72B, 67 BGT On 4/10/2023 8:50 AM, dave northrup wrote: > These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga.? We acquired this project > in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. > > I suspect these are mga carbs? > > And i don't know what to connect where.? ?The engine runs as is but > I'm sure I'm missing something.? (Little joke there). > > Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? > From dave at ranteer.com Mon Apr 10 14:01:08 2023 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 20:01:08 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <4ad0e1e2daa94c24aa6814b93f23b473@ranteer.com> You just fill up the float bowls with gas. Then the engine will run on its own for a bit until they run out -----Original Message----- From: Max Heim Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 11:56 AM To: dave northrup Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB carb question The engine runs with no fuel inlet hose to the carburetors? You might want to take out a patent on that... -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Apr 10, 2023, at 8:50 AM, dave northrup wrote: > > These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. > > I suspect these are mga carbs? > > And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). > > Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? > > <20230410_102706.jpg>_______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net From mvheim at sonic.net Mon Apr 10 17:21:15 2023 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 16:21:15 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <4ad0e1e2daa94c24aa6814b93f23b473@ranteer.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> <4ad0e1e2daa94c24aa6814b93f23b473@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <08F225E0-8EDB-47E1-A03A-F7984B9CC49C@sonic.net> Yeah, but there was no throttle cable, either, so it wouldn?t go very fast. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Apr 10, 2023, at 1:01 PM, dave northrup wrote: > > You just fill up the float bowls with gas. Then the engine will run on its own for a bit until they run out > > -----Original Message----- > From: Max Heim > Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 11:56 AM > To: dave northrup > Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB carb question > > The engine runs with no fuel inlet hose to the carburetors? > > You might want to take out a patent on that... > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > >> On Apr 10, 2023, at 8:50 AM, dave northrup wrote: >> >> These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. >> >> I suspect these are mga carbs? >> >> And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). >> >> Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? >> >> <20230410_102706.jpg>_______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net > > From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Tue Apr 11 10:15:03 2023 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 18:15:03 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <003a01d96c90$c64c7450$52e55cf0$@planet.nl> Here?s a picture of the rear HS4 carb in my 1971 BGT. Looks very similar to yours. Cheers, Hans Van: Mgs Namens dave northrup Verzonden: Monday, 10 April 2023 17:50 Aan: mgs at autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGB carb question These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. I suspect these are mga carbs? And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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I have mixed up the fuel in and vent lines and things have not worked well. > On Apr 11, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: > > Here?s a picture of the rear HS4 carb in my 1971 BGT. > Looks very similar to yours. > > Cheers, > Hans > > Van: Mgs Namens dave northrup > Verzonden: Monday, 10 April 2023 17:50 > Aan: mgs at autox.team.net > Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGB carb question > > These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. > > I suspect these are mga carbs? > > And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). > > Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lrc at red4est.com -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com sent from ret13est From dcouncill at karamursel.org Tue Apr 11 11:59:45 2023 From: dcouncill at karamursel.org (David Councill) Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2023 10:59:45 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <76d59a83-1d15-4603-f2f8-b73e24beb2ca@karamursel.org> I managed to get a picture of my 72B setup (engine/carbs from a 71BGT) that shows some relevant connections, that I have attached. Now on the original picture, I noticed a number of issues which I will describe, starting from the engine and working out. The intake manifold where you have looped in two ports - the rear port should have a nipple to connect a vacuum tube to the distributor. Other port should be blocked using a fastener. On the engine side of the carbs, each carb should have a port (5/16") to pull in crankcase gasses. This uses rubber tubing and a plastic-Y piece to then connect to the crankcase side cover. Moss shows this here: https://mossmotors.com/mgb-017-emission-system-controls-1970-74 The front linkage for the choke - your picture shows it near the rear carb, should be moved towards the front carb. That is because the choke cable will connect to Moss 372-340 bracket so that brass lever needs to be close to the bracket. And finally, the float bowl covers - they are reversed in your picture. The three port cover is for the front carb. That is because the 70-71 Bs had a steel fuel line running towards the front of the car and the fuel line ran off of it. Then you have another port to run a fuel line between the two carbs. The overflow port should point out away from the engine/carb. The 70-71B would run lines from these two overflows back to a charcoal canister. Since you are using the engine/carbs in a MGA, you could use the earlier piping method used on the 62-67 MGB. These are steel tubing bent downwards so that the tubes divert petrol overflows to the ground. There is a bracket that holds them to the engine block, available from Moss. Steel tuning is part 67 - https://mossmotors.com/mgb-020-hs4-carburetor No longer available but you can make your own which is what I did on my 64B. I am not sure where the MGA fuel line would be to connect to the SU carb. If it is not practical to use the 71-72 method of fuel routing, you could use the 62-67 method, replacing the two port float cover with a 2 port and use a T fitting on the fuel line: https://mossmotors.com/mgb-028-fuel-pipes-and-lines-1962-70 Hope this helps. David Councill 64 B, 72B, 67BGT On 4/10/2023 8:50 AM, dave northrup wrote: > These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga.? We acquired this project > in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. > > I suspect these are mga carbs? > > And i don't know what to connect where.? ?The engine runs as is but > I'm sure I'm missing something.? (Little joke there). > > Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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The HS4 carbs in my GT however already were equipped with "swing needles", which were standard in HIF4. Cheers, Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Larry Colen Verzonden: Tuesday, 11 April 2023 19:57 Aan: Hans Duinhoven CC: dave northrup ; mgs at autox.team.net Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MGB carb question Note the hose on top of the manifold where on Dave?s it is just open to the air. Also note that one of Dave?s float has three connections, one is for fuel in from the pump, one is for fuel to the other carb, and one is for ventilation. I have mixed up the fuel in and vent lines and things have not worked well. > On Apr 11, 2023, at 9:15 AM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: > > Here?s a picture of the rear HS4 carb in my 1971 BGT. > Looks very similar to yours. > > Cheers, > Hans > > Van: Mgs Namens dave northrup > Verzonden: Monday, 10 April 2023 17:50 > Aan: mgs at autox.team.net > Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGB carb question > > These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. > > I suspect these are mga carbs? > > And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). > > Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation > $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lrc at red4est.com -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com sent from ret13est From lrc at red4est.com Mon Apr 10 15:06:55 2023 From: lrc at red4est.com (lrc at red4est.com) Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2023 14:06:55 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <4ad0e1e2daa94c24aa6814b93f23b473@ranteer.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> <4ad0e1e2daa94c24aa6814b93f23b473@ranteer.com> Message-ID: You might also be getting an air leak through the pcv port on the intake manifold On April 10, 2023 1:01:08 PM PDT, dave northrup wrote: >You just fill up the float bowls with gas. Then the engine will run on its own for a bit until they run out > >-----Original Message----- >From: Max Heim >Sent: Monday, April 10, 2023 11:56 AM >To: dave northrup >Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB carb question > >The engine runs with no fuel inlet hose to the carburetors? > >You might want to take out a patent on that... > >-- >Max Heim >'66 MGB > >> On Apr 10, 2023, at 8:50 AM, dave northrup wrote: >> >> These carbs are on an mgb engine in an mga. We acquired this project in kit form so I'm not sure what i have. >> >> I suspect these are mga carbs? >> >> And i don't know what to connect where. The engine runs as is but I'm sure I'm missing something. (Little joke there). >> >> Can someone send me a picture and/or help me out? >> >> <20230410_102706.jpg>_______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation >> $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net > >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lrc at red4est.com > -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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PaulH. > I do not expect the HS4 carbs on Dave's engine will have the three connections. > These were released when the Evaporate Loss system was introduced in late 1968 I think. > From mark at bradakis.com Wed Apr 12 02:53:35 2023 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 02:53:35 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net Message-ID: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air.? Can't believe it has been 32 years! mjb. From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Wed Apr 12 03:19:36 2023 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 11:19:36 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <001701d96d1f$e6c64eb0$b452ec10$@planet.nl> Congratulations Mark. Quite an achievement and this list has brought a lot of friendships! Cheers! Hans -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: Mgs Namens Mark Bradakis Verzonden: Wednesday, 12 April 2023 10:54 Aan: mgs at autox.team.net Onderwerp: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air. Can't believe it has been 32 years! mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/h.duinhoven at planet.nl From mgbobh at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 05:26:21 2023 From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 07:26:21 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <949D9195-0881-49CF-B02C-DC39C0E90808@gmail.com> 32 years, yet you have not aged. Thanks, Mark, for doing this for us. Team Net has certainly been helpful for me, as I know it has been for many others. Three Cheers for Mark !! Bob > On Apr 12, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: > > On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air. Can't believe it has been 32 years! > > mjb. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com From craigbrownlee at cox.net Wed Apr 12 07:50:37 2023 From: craigbrownlee at cox.net (Craig Brownlee) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 08:50:37 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> Message-ID: Mark, Thank you very much for keeping our group together! 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URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Wed Apr 12 09:15:52 2023 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 16:15:52 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> <003a01d96c90$c64c7450$52e55cf0$@planet.nl> <004001d96caa$d4621c60$7d265520$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <3d43c62d-62c9-3e4c-8c67-a7e8f40cc89a@virginmedia.com> HIFs I see, plumbed much the same here except individual hard pipes going straight down for the overflows. On 12/04/2023 16:03, Richard Lindsay wrote: > Always sage advice. Thanks Paul. Here's how my '72 B is plumbed. Here > in Texas we don't have required emissions tests, or really any > MOT-style inspections for cars over 25 years of age. So you may notice > that the carbon canister fuel vapor capture/retrieval system is > inoperative. Some day I will plumb it correctly. > > R. From david_breneman at yahoo.com Wed Apr 12 11:59:41 2023 From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 17:59:41 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <803885559.2888495.1681322381431@mail.yahoo.com> Congratulations!? I'm not sure how long I've been subscribed. My emails from team.net only go back to 2013 with yahoo.I've had email since 1987. David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 02:45:21 AM PDT, Mark Bradakis wrote: On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air.? Can't believe it has been 32 years! mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation? $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/david_breneman at yahoo.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lrc at red4est.com Wed Apr 12 15:58:53 2023 From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 14:58:53 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <3d43c62d-62c9-3e4c-8c67-a7e8f40cc89a@virginmedia.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> <003a01d96c90$c64c7450$52e55cf0$@planet.nl> <004001d96caa$d4621c60$7d265520$@planet.nl> <3d43c62d-62c9-3e4c-8c67-a7e8f40cc89a@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: <9BE4E2B3-BDC4-4AF1-9EC7-966DF8ED1896@red4est.com> I did some poking around, and found this link which is kind of fun http://classicmini.weebly.com/how-do-identify-my-carb.html > On Apr 12, 2023, at 8:15 AM, PaulHunt73 wrote: > > HIFs I see, plumbed much the same here except individual hard pipes going straight down for the overflows. > > On 12/04/2023 16:03, Richard Lindsay wrote: >> Always sage advice. Thanks Paul. Here's how my '72 B is plumbed. Here in Texas we don't have required emissions tests, or really any MOT-style inspections for cars over 25 years of age. So you may notice that the carbon canister fuel vapor capture/retrieval system is inoperative. Some day I will plumb it correctly. >> >> R. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/lrc at red4est.com > -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com sent from ret13est From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Apr 13 01:42:22 2023 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2023 08:42:22 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGB carb question In-Reply-To: <9BE4E2B3-BDC4-4AF1-9EC7-966DF8ED1896@red4est.com> References: <3f69458ef4274758a08b59ba7f329b39@ranteer.com> <003a01d96c90$c64c7450$52e55cf0$@planet.nl> <004001d96caa$d4621c60$7d265520$@planet.nl> <3d43c62d-62c9-3e4c-8c67-a7e8f40cc89a@virginmedia.com> <9BE4E2B3-BDC4-4AF1-9EC7-966DF8ED1896@red4est.com> Message-ID: <4316d513-e44e-4af1-b9ae-ecc8d71bcc5d@virginmedia.com> HD description is incorrect, float chamber is on the side like HS.? The thing underneath is the diaphragm chamber. https://sucarb.co.uk/technical-hd-type-carburetter-diaphragm-jet-and-auxiliary-enrichment > I did some poking around, and found this link which is kind of fun > http://classicmini.weebly.com/how-do-identify-my-carb.html > > From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Sun Apr 16 02:54:54 2023 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 10:54:54 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Barnfind of 230 cars - most are nice classics in need for care Message-ID: <001701d97041$1d1d1290$575737b0$@planet.nl> https://www.gallery-aaldering.com/ Hi, above link shows the discovered 230 cars in a barnfind in the Netherlands. Some cars are pretty dull, but most are special and valuable. Enjoy - btw the cars will be auctioned, so if any interest, go for it. Cheers, Hans 71 BGT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From barneymg at mgaguru.com Sun Apr 16 20:46:06 2023 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2023 21:46:06 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] mga trunk lock In-Reply-To: <3b1d93ddf1d04dfa9ad4a7692de86251@ranteer.com> References: <3b1d93ddf1d04dfa9ad4a7692de86251@ranteer.com> Message-ID: Install the key lock just left of center on the rear valance panel just below the boot lid, and connect it to the boot latch pull lever with a short length of chain. At 01:59 PM 4/16/2023, dave northrup wrote: >.... >I am putting back together a car I acquired in kit form, with lots >of mods from the previous owners, including an MGB engine. I am >wondering if anyone has ever installed a simple trunk luck instead >of the complex pull mechanism. I have seen Barney's trunk locking >mechanism, and that is my second choice. But all of that pull >mechanism is out anyway. >.... -- This email has been checked for viruses by AVG antivirus software. www.avg.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dtwoerpel at gmail.com Wed Apr 12 08:00:13 2023 From: dtwoerpel at gmail.com (David Woerpel) Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:00:13 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: <949D9195-0881-49CF-B02C-DC39C0E90808@gmail.com> References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> <949D9195-0881-49CF-B02C-DC39C0E90808@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thank you Mark!? Cannot believe 32 yrs. of "Family".? The information shared, friendships made, the humor, the gatherings for which you are, in a large part responsible, and yes, the losses. R.I.P.? Frank(13 yrs on the 11th), Paul, Jim, Ed and others I don't know about.? In their own way they are the pillars of the list.? It is staggering to think of all the people Mark has brought together through all the various lists he moderates.? Keep up the great work Mark...the rest of youse....send $$$$. Safety Fast Dave W. '59 :{) '59 MGA 1500 Waukesha WI "Pay It Forward" On 4/12/2023 6:26 AM, Robert's New iPad wrote: > 32 years, yet you have not aged. > Thanks, Mark, for doing this for us. Team Net has certainly been helpful for me, as I know it has been for many others. > Three Cheers for Mark !! > Bob > > >> On Apr 12, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: >> >> On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air. Can't believe it has been 32 years! >> >> mjb. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dtwoerpel at gmail.com From barroban at outlook.com Mon Apr 24 13:38:44 2023 From: barroban at outlook.com (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 15:38:44 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGB GT battery Message-ID: Sorry about this folks - I may have already sent out this bleat but my excuse is that I am having major laptop problems. I seek advice on what battery to get for my built-from-scratch MGB GT V8.?? I think it is either a 24 or 26 ????? Are there any good ones for cars nearly always in storage??? Currently my car sits quietly in my daughters barn with a dud battery. Cheers Barrie From mvheim at sonic.net Mon Apr 24 14:47:38 2023 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 13:47:38 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB GT battery In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6B436C60-A947-4EB5-8F04-E33B3C560CA8@sonic.net> It?s Group 26 that fits in the battery box. Some of them have a flange around the base that has to be cut away. Obviously, a built-in handle helps. I find the O?Reilly house brand battery fits right. Don?t know about long term storage? I generally manage to fire it up at least every other week. -- Max Heim mvheim at sonic.net > On Apr 24, 2023, at 12:38 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Sorry about this folks - I may have already sent out this bleat but my excuse is that I am having major laptop problems. > > I seek advice on what battery to get for my built-from-scratch MGB GT V8. I think it is either a 24 or 26 ??? Are there any good ones for cars nearly always in storage? Currently my car sits quietly in my daughters barn with a dud battery. > > Cheers > Barrie > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net > From richardolindsay at gmail.com Mon Apr 24 15:34:04 2023 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2023 16:34:04 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGB GT battery In-Reply-To: <6B436C60-A947-4EB5-8F04-E33B3C560CA8@sonic.net> References: <6B436C60-A947-4EB5-8F04-E33B3C560CA8@sonic.net> Message-ID: I have a Group 24 in my '72 Tourer but it binds with the bottom of the box. It's a 24 just because that's what I had. :-P -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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On 24/04/2023 20:38, Barrie Robinson wrote: > Sorry about this folks - I may have already sent out this bleat but my > excuse is that I am having major laptop problems. > > I seek advice on what battery to get for my built-from-scratch MGB GT > V8.?? I think it is either a 24 or 26 ????? Are there any good ones > for cars nearly always in storage??? Currently my car sits quietly in > my daughters barn with a dud battery. > > Cheers > Barrie > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation? $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com From dave at ranteer.com Tue Apr 25 07:38:37 2023 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2023 13:38:37 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500 fuel gauge Message-ID: <95089ba04dc148c78ca4788729b75d83@ranteer.com> My fuel gauge looks a little tired and I'd like to spruce it up. is there a template out there so I can reproduce the front face? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From grunthaner at gmail.com Sat Apr 22 11:06:43 2023 From: grunthaner at gmail.com (Linda Grunthaner) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2023 13:06:43 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] Happy birthday Team Net In-Reply-To: References: <42536ecc-adc1-b48a-c2b8-9f7f1e584d36@bradakis.com> <949D9195-0881-49CF-B02C-DC39C0E90808@gmail.com> Message-ID: Well said David and I just read the sad news about Jim Johnson a few minutes ago. Now rereading I see he passed in February, sorry I didn't know he was ill. Great Spridget men who now race with the angels Over the Rainbow Bridge. RIP Jim. Jim's Obit: https://www.swaimfuneralhome.com/obituary/james-johnson?fbclid=IwAR256R4taX1e2-pui9f8cV0ER-LrlOG9TSeH82Bn9oSks9dwXb22Jwy0G0M Linda 62 California Sprite Pinky On Wed, Apr 12, 2023 at 1:16?PM David Woerpel via Spridgets < spridgets at autox.team.net> wrote: > Thank you Mark! Cannot believe 32 yrs. of "Family". The information > shared, friendships made, the humor, the gatherings for which you are, > in a large part responsible, and yes, the losses. R.I.P. Frank(13 yrs > on the 11th), Paul, Jim, Ed and others I don't know about. In their own > way they are the pillars of the list. It is staggering to think of all > the people Mark has brought together through all the various lists he > moderates. Keep up the great work Mark...the rest of youse....send $$$$. > > Safety Fast > > Dave W. > '59 :{) > '59 MGA 1500 > > Waukesha WI > "Pay It Forward" > > > > On 4/12/2023 6:26 AM, Robert's New iPad wrote: > > 32 years, yet you have not aged. > > Thanks, Mark, for doing this for us. Team Net has certainly been > helpful for me, as I know it has been for many others. > > Three Cheers for Mark !! > > Bob > > > > > >> On Apr 12, 2023, at 4:53 AM, Mark Bradakis wrote: > >> > >> On April 11th, 1991, Team Net went on the air. Can't believe it has > been 32 years! > >> > >> mjb. > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> > >> Mgs at autox.team.net > >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 > >> > >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > http://autox.team.net/archive > >> > >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dtwoerpel at gmail.com > > ------------------------ > > spridgets at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation: $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/spridgets > http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/spridgets/grunthaner at gmail.com > -- "Pay if forward" in honor of Frank Clarici III, Spritenut -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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