From steve at shoyer.com Sat Oct 1 14:03:00 2022 From: steve at shoyer.com (Steve Shoyer) Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:03:00 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Salvage title In-Reply-To: <6A81EDB9-7E0C-4076-8782-1F06BAC2D3D0@sonic.net> References: <78EE12EB-6B76-45EE-A565-28EC102918FA@gmail.com> <6A81EDB9-7E0C-4076-8782-1F06BAC2D3D0@sonic.net> Message-ID: <7ad603c4-15a0-bd46-be3f-b88758637ffa@shoyer.com> In Massachusetts there are two kinds of salvage titles, repairable and parts-only.? A repairable car can be re-registered after being repaired and passing a salvage inspection.? A parts-only car cannot be registered again in MA.? The salvage title might make the car harder to insure, or at least more expensive. --Steve (1980 MGB) On 10/1/2022 12:15 AM, Max Heim wrote: > A salvage title definitely will hurt the value at auction. it just > raises the question ?what happened to it?? and the answer can never be > good. > > But if you were planning to keep the car long term and don't mind > doing the restoration work, and are satisfied there is no irreparable > damage, then you might as well do it. You at least have a very good > idea of what it will take, more so than you would if you went and > bought a project car on the open market to replace it. > > Let your heirs figure out how to deal with the salvage title? > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > >> On Sep 30, 2022, at 6:43 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: >> >> Hi Tom, >> That?s terrible news. >> Generally speaking, a car that burns by itself can be >> salvaged/recovered and can be restored. ??A car that is in a garage >> or barn fire may have its metal annealed, changing its strength. ?An >> engineer can explain this better, but most owners of burned cars will >> stay away from one that was baked. >> One would think that the salvage title would push down the value, but >> I have no direct knowledge. ?One of the guys in our club owns a >> couple of cars, not MGs, that he has bought from insurance companies, >> repaired and repainted them, and has had good service from them. ?He >> is a talented and experienced fellow. >> Do you have pictures of the car that you can share? >> Bob >> >> >>> On Sep 30, 2022, at 9:04 PM, Thomas Gunderson >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> My MGA was in a fire. Hagerty will let me buy the car back for about >>> 1/3 the total payout. This will put the car as salvage. If I keep >>> the car and restore the car to the status it was before the fire. >>> How will the salvage title affect the value? >>> Should I let them keep the car and take the money? >>> >>> 1957 MGA 1500 rst >>> Tom Gunderson >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone X -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Sat Oct 1 21:24:35 2022 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2022 03:24:35 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] convertible top Message-ID: Looking for a convertible top for my MGA. Is topsonline.com a good source? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Mon Oct 3 11:09:50 2022 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 17:09:50 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage Message-ID: I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any farther with the mechanicals. We are looking for one that works; don't care at all what it looks like as long as it works. Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing to sell? I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not tested. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvheim at sonic.net Mon Oct 3 13:29:16 2022 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2022 12:29:16 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, that?s about what I would expect. Any ?barn find? gauge would need to be tested. Restored or ?known good" gauges would be expensive. Is there a local club? Maybe someone would let you have a ?loaner? from a non-running project that you could use for startup testing, on the condition you returned it. -- Max Heim mvheim at sonic.net > On Oct 3, 2022, at 10:09 AM, dave northrup wrote: > > I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. > > He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any farther with the mechanicals. We are looking for one that works; don?t care at all what it looks like as long as it works. Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing to sell? > > I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not tested. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Tue Oct 4 01:23:35 2022 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:23:35 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Depends on whether he is planning to use it 'normally' before getting the gauges done or not.? If so then he definitely needs both gauges from the outset, but these could be separates if cheaper until he gets a dual gauge and has that rebuilt.? You can test 'untested' yourself but if either section doesn't work you would have to get it rebuilt before using the car instead of 'at some point'.? The temp section is the most likely to be faulty, especially if removal from the donor car was not done with care. PaulH. On 03/10/2022 18:09, dave northrup wrote: > > I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic > restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. > > He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right > now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any > farther with the mechanicals.? We are looking for one that works; > don?t care at all what it looks like as long as it works.? Anyone have > an old gage around they would be willing to sell? > > I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not > tested. > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvheim at sonic.net Tue Oct 4 09:28:23 2022 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 08:28:23 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] water temp/oil pressure gage In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <9C5458AF-EB1E-4A5B-99D6-F2C3D5B55800@sonic.net> (Sorry, Paul, I meant to reply to the list) I just recalled? when I had to send my combo gauge out for repair, I bought a cheap plastic temp gauge at the auto parts store to install temporarily. I suppose you could do that for both, although you would have to find someplace to mount one of them. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Oct 4, 2022, at 12:23 AM, PaulHunt73 > wrote: > > Depends on whether he is planning to use it 'normally' before getting the gauges done or not. If so then he definitely needs both gauges from the outset, but these could be separates if cheaper until he gets a dual gauge and has that rebuilt. You can test 'untested' yourself but if either section doesn't work you would have to get it rebuilt before using the car instead of 'at some point'. The temp section is the most likely to be faulty, especially if removal from the donor car was not done with care. > > PaulH. > > On 03/10/2022 18:09, dave northrup wrote: >> I am helping a friend with a 56 MGA. Definitely in need of cosmetic restoration; we think the mechanicals are pretty good. >> >> He is planning on having all the gages rebuilt at some point; right now it has no temp/oil pressure gage and we need that before we go any farther with the mechanicals. We are looking for one that works; don?t care at all what it looks like as long as it works. Anyone have an old gage around they would be willing to sell? >> >> I see them on ebay but they are always either really expensive or not tested. >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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These engines are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm." Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? Thanks in advance for your input. Jim Ray -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvheim at sonic.net Fri Oct 7 16:53:06 2022 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 15:53:06 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it?s really what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, wrote: > > I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. Des Hammill's book How to Power Tune RV8 Engines states ?Anyone used to oil pressures hovering around 70 ? 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 ? 40 psi. These engines are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.? Its time for me to change the oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Jim Ray > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Oct 8 01:38:46 2022 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 02:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 zinc thing. Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol GTX 20W50. I guess I should define 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my '53 TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old ?ber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets whatever the Owner's Manual recommends. Rick, in Houston PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome. On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim wrote: > I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth > slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is > formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other > weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. > > 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it?s really > what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > > On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, > wrote: > > I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. > Des Hammill's book *How to Power Tune RV8 Engines *states ?Anyone used to > oil pressures hovering around 70 ? 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be > alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 ? 40 psi. These engines > are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a > 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.? Its time for me to change the > oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used > in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? > > Thanks in advance for your input. > > Jim Ray > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Sat Oct 8 01:51:31 2022 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2022 08:51:31 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine Message-ID: <6dfd89e2-8bc9-cd0b-c48a-fd7c2e64b84e@virginmedia.com> As Hammill says the Rover V8 engine is a low pressure, high flow engine because of the additional places for oil to exit pressurised areas and get back to the sump not least the hydraulic tappets.? The pressures quoted are optimal if not optimistic, you can get a lot lower hot idle than that on older engines - barely registering on the gauge.? It depends on what you mean by 15W 50 being 'a bit high', the factory specified the same oil viscosities for the V8 as it did for the 4-cylinder, i.e. for all temperatures above -10 C (10F) 10W 40 being the minimum and 20W 50 the maximum.? Because the lower viscosities do result in lower pressures I've always run 20W 50 in mine which is on its third time round the clock, albeit with a rebore and regrind a couple of years ago. You can't compare it with oil for modern cars, which can cause harm in our engines. PaulH. From dan.dibiase at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 06:00:44 2022 From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 08:00:44 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in great shape and inexpensive.... https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html Dan D '76B Central NJ USA On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lindsay wrote: > All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 zinc > thing. > Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil > would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about > wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol > GTX 20W50. > I guess I should define 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my '53 > TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old > ?ber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets whatever > the Owner's Manual recommends. > > Rick, in Houston > PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome. > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim wrote: > >> I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth >> slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is >> formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other >> weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. >> >> 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it?s really >> what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. >> >> -- >> Max Heim >> '66 MGB >> >> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, >> wrote: >> >> I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. >> Des Hammill's book *How to Power Tune RV8 Engines *states ?Anyone used >> to oil pressures hovering around 70 ? 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be >> alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 ? 40 psi. These engines >> are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a >> 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.? Its time for me to change the >> oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used >> in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? >> >> Thanks in advance for your input. >> >> Jim Ray >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 06:06:47 2022 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 07:06:47 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Hi Dan. I do like the early cars... On Mon, Oct 10, 2022, 7:01 AM Dan DiBiase wrote: > Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in > great shape and inexpensive.... > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html > > Dan D > '76B > Central NJ USA > > On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 8:38 AM Richard Lindsay > wrote: > >> All good words Max. Thanks. I didn't know about the 15W50 Mobile 1 >> zinc thing. >> Where I live it never really gets cold, so a constant viscosity oil >> would even work. That said, I don't drive my cars enough to worry about >> wear. I just play with them. My go-to oil for everything older is Castrol >> GTX 20W50. >> I guess I should define 'everything older'. Specifically, I mean my >> '53 TD, '71 Volvo 1800E, '72 MGB, '73 E-Type (V12), and even my 25-year-old >> ?ber-high mileage Nissan D21 pickup. Everything else/newer gets whatever >> the Owner's Manual recommends. >> >> Rick, in Houston >> PS: Classic Plymouths are awesome. >> >> On Sat, Oct 8, 2022, 2:13 AM Max Heim wrote: >> >>> I am using 15W50 in all my cars at this point: 1966 MGB, 1967 Plymouth >>> slant six, 1967 Plymouth 4bbl V8; specifically, Mobil1 15W50 which is >>> formulated for flat tappet engines and has 1500ppm zinc. Note that other >>> weights of this brand are NOT appropriate for older cars. >>> >>> 50 is not too high viscosity for summer use in California (it?s really >>> what you want), and 15W indicates that is not too heavy for winter use. >>> >>> -- >>> Max Heim >>> '66 MGB >>> >>> On Oct 7, 2022, at 8:02 AM, >>> wrote: >>> >>> I am puzzled about the proper oil viscosity for my Rover 3.5 V8 engine. >>> Des Hammill's book *How to Power Tune RV8 Engines *states ?Anyone used >>> to oil pressures hovering around 70 ? 75 psi on an MGB 1800 engine will be >>> alarmed to see pressures in the Rover V8 reading 15 ? 40 psi. These engines >>> are low-pressure engines with normal pressures (hot) at 20 psi idle using a >>> 15W 50 oil, and 40 psi over about 3500 rpm.? Its time for me to change the >>> oil in mine and 15W 50 seems a bit high when compared to oil normally used >>> in my other US built cars. Anyone have any thoughts or suggestions to this? >>> >>> Thanks in advance for your input. >>> >>> Jim Ray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Mon Oct 10 08:25:42 2022 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 15:25:42 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <71016569-ca03-aeb7-711e-dd2840e14282@virginmedia.com> Suspiciously cheap?? You could pay at least four time that in the UK, the quilted door cards are not THAT bad ... On 10/10/2022 13:00, Dan DiBiase wrote: > Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in > great shape and inexpensive.... > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html > From dan.dibiase at gmail.com Mon Oct 10 11:31:46 2022 From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2022 13:31:46 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Oil viscosity for 3.5 V8 engine In-Reply-To: <71016569-ca03-aeb7-711e-dd2840e14282@virginmedia.com> References:

<71016569-ca03-aeb7-711e-dd2840e14282@virginmedia.com> Message-ID: You'd certainly want to do your due diligence with anything on Craigslist. Obviously, with no pics of the underside, it could be a complete rustbucket worth only the parts it would yield. Caveat emptor in all things! Dan D '76B Central NJ USA On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 12:47 PM PaulHunt73 wrote: > Suspiciously cheap? You could pay at least four time that in the UK, > the quilted door cards are not THAT bad ... > > On 10/10/2022 13:00, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > Rick, you need to add this one to your collection! Looks like it's in > > great shape and inexpensive.... > > > > https://houston.craigslist.org/cto/d/katy-1963-mgb/7540334022.html > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From lrc at red4est.com Sun Oct 23 23:57:17 2022 From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen) Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 22:57:17 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] A friend is selling a 5 main and transmission in Watsonville CA Message-ID: <499541C4-F80D-47CB-B023-DC654F027A8F@red4est.com> I?m not selling this, my friend Tori is. She initially bought it to put in her ?39 Hillman Minx project, but it going another direction 1971-72 MGB 1800 5 bearing engine & transmission. Very clean. Cash or Venmo. Prefer Local pickup. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/469962838454636/ 1972 5 bearing engine with transmission( Not overdrive), Has engine mounts. Ran when pulled and over all in good shape. Headers are gone. Will consider offers. -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com. sent from ret4est From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Mon Oct 24 08:55:12 2022 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 16:55:12 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] The marque of friendship Message-ID: <005c01d8e7b8$9ea8c910$dbfa5b30$@planet.nl> Dear listers, Last weekend some of the listers and some more friends came to Amsterdam. As the contacts between us go back over more than 20 years, this was a great event! In the past I had meetings with listers in the Boston area (January2000 and May 2006) and Colorado Springs (February 2011). Now the listers came to Amsterdam! The group visited https://www.louwmanmuseum.nl/en/ and came to watch my MG BGT and 3 Puch mopeds from 1970 - 1973. It all was fabulous and not to forget! MG = The Marque of Friendship! Cheers, Hans '71 BGT NRG w/w no/od -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Tue Oct 25 17:30:15 2022 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup) Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:30:15 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Route 66 Message-ID: <1b462d019c5e407cabd0fb8ac71e6118@ranteer.com> I just found out about this. For those of you who have not experienced Route 66, you have missed out!!! https://www.mobil.com/en/lubricants/route66 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: