From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Wed Jun  1 01:22:12 2022
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Wed, 1 Jun 2022 08:22:12 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] 80B, melted white-green wire from ignition switch
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A bad engine/gearbox earth strap will cause the heater, choke and 
accelerator cables to get hot but not 'fry' them in the same way that 
electrical wires do when they short, and it won't cause the heater cable 
to become disconnected.?? In theory the temp gauge capillary would be 
affected as well but I've never heard of it. You would be unlucky for a 
disconnected heater cable to cause a short, most electrical connections 
should be protected as there are a lot more earthed metal parts behind 
the dash than just that cable.? I often see the backs of bullets 
sticking out of the connector sheath because they haven't been pushed 
home properly, but the plastic sheaths on the connectors available today 
slide and can expose even correctly fitted bullets, unlike the rubber 
sheaths on originals.? I did hear of someone blowing a braided clutch 
hose when the earth strap failed.? They had been aware of slow cranking 
for a while but didn't investigate it properly ...

As someone once said "Listen to your car, it is talking to you." I.e. 
get used to how you car sounds, feels, looks, smells? and investigate 
any changes BEFORE you get a breakdown.

PaulH.

On 31/05/2022 21:06, Robert's New iPad wrote:
> 	Fried heater cable is usually because the earth strap(s) from engine to body are not conducting properly.
> 	I have two on my GT, and check their fasteners a couple of times each year.
> Bob
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jun  2 14:34:38 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 20:34:38 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
Message-ID: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>

I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn't do it.

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.

Where should I look?
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From swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com  Thu Jun  2 14:43:53 2022
From: swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com (swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 16:43:53 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
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References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <009101d876c1$79653070$6c2f9150$@coastaldatasystems.com>

I'd probably do a compression check first to make sure it is acceptable.

Then I'd go through the carbs.

 

 

Steve West-Fisher

N4IK

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 4:35 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb

 

I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting
overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn't
do it.

 

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how
long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

 

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new
spark plugs, etc.

 

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From difejo1 at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 14:46:18 2022
From: difejo1 at gmail.com (John DiFede)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 16:46:18 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <009101d876c1$79653070$6c2f9150$@coastaldatasystems.com>
References: <009101d876c1$79653070$6c2f9150$@coastaldatasystems.com>
Message-ID: <3C2747A7-FCA3-4498-AE34-127C0A2085D4@gmail.com>

Is the choke cable adjusted properly?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 2, 2022, at 4:44 PM, swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com wrote:
> 
> ?
> I?d probably do a compression check first to make sure it is acceptable.
> Then I?d go through the carbs.
>  
>  
> Steve West-Fisher
> N4IK
>  
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
> Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 4:35 PM
> To: mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
>  
> I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.
>  
> After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.
>  
> Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.
>  
> Where should I look?
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jun  2 15:13:25 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 21:13:25 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <009101d876c1$79653070$6c2f9150$@coastaldatasystems.com>
References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>,
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Compression is good


-------- Original message --------
From: swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com
Date: 6/2/22 3:45 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] 72 mgb

I?d probably do a compression check first to make sure it is acceptable.
Then I?d go through the carbs.


Steve West-Fisher
N4IK

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 4:35 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb

I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.

Where should I look?
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jun  2 15:13:41 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 21:13:41 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <3C2747A7-FCA3-4498-AE34-127C0A2085D4@gmail.com>
References: <009101d876c1$79653070$6c2f9150$@coastaldatasystems.com>,
 <3C2747A7-FCA3-4498-AE34-127C0A2085D4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b9fe5b6adf3442e69741d13752c24ec7@ranteer.com>

I will check


-------- Original message --------
From: John DiFede <difejo1 at gmail.com>
Date: 6/2/22 3:48 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: steve at coastaldatasystems.com
Cc: Mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] 72 mgb

Is the choke cable adjusted properly?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 2, 2022, at 4:44 PM, swestfisher at coastaldatasystems.com wrote:

?
I?d probably do a compression check first to make sure it is acceptable.
Then I?d go through the carbs.


Steve West-Fisher
N4IK

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of dave northrup
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 4:35 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb

I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.

Where should I look?
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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Thu Jun  2 15:13:46 2022
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Thu, 02 Jun 2022 16:13:46 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1654204430.7321.mgs@autox.team.net>

You didn't say, but if it has been stored for several months without 
driving, stale fuel can do exactly that.  Solution is to dirve it 
until it is near emty, then refill, or drain it and refill with fresh fuel.


At 03:34 PM 6/2/2022, dave northrup wrote:
>....
>I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting 
>overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke 
>doesn't do it.
>
>After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not 
>sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.
>
>Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, 
>relatively new spark plugs, etc.
>
>Where should I look?
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Jun  2 15:14:22 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 21:14:22 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <5f90bba6-0b52-4bf8-8a9d-5f73f4531e71@S14-MBX11-18.S14.local>
References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>,
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Message-ID: <2a8adb50b3664b908652a95c72c5f3e7@ranteer.com>

That could be it


-------- Original message --------
From: Barney Gaylord <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
Date: 6/2/22 4:13 PM (GMT-06:00)
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>, mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] 72 mgb

You didn't say, but if it has been stored for several months without driving, stale fuel can do exactly that.  Solution is to dirve it until it is near emty, then refill, or drain it and refill with fresh fuel.


At 03:34 PM 6/2/2022, dave northrup wrote:
....
I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.

Where should I look?
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Thu Jun  2 15:52:32 2022
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2022 17:52:32 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
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	Timing, as it is so easy to check, is first.
	Then, have a go at the starting circuit of the car?s HIFs.  It should start immediately with appropriate amount of choke for the temperature. 
	Starter fluid is a desperate tool for desperate needs. MGBs should never need it except during an Arctic winter.  
Bob


> On Jun 2, 2022, at 4:34 PM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.
>  
> After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.
>  
> Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.
>  
> Where should I look?
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From dave at ranteer.com  Fri Jun  3 08:26:20 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Fri, 3 Jun 2022 14:26:20 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 72 mgb
In-Reply-To: <5f90bba6-0b52-4bf8-8a9d-5f73f4531e71@S14-MBX11-18.S14.local>
References: <5f551babd6db46c08472df712a49d65a@ranteer.com>
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Message-ID: <3041ba369aef4a39bc73ca7ddbc8ac05@ranteer.com>

Special thanks to Barney!!!!!

I followed his advice and this morning the car started up without starter fluid!!!!!

From: Barney Gaylord <barneymg at mgaguru.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 2, 2022 4:14 PM
To: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>; mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] 72 mgb

You didn't say, but if it has been stored for several months without driving, stale fuel can do exactly that.  Solution is to dirve it until it is near emty, then refill, or drain it and refill with fresh fuel.


At 03:34 PM 6/2/2022, dave northrup wrote:

....
I have a 72 mgb which runs and drives quite nicely.  After sitting overnight, I have to use starter fluid to start it.  just full choke doesn?t do it.

After that, no problems.  Turn it off, back on, no problems.  Not sure how long it has to sit to exhibit this issue.

Timing looks ok, carbs in decent shape and recently tuned, relatively new spark plugs, etc.

Where should I look?
....
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From jmc987 at verizon.net  Mon Jun  6 15:11:09 2022
From: jmc987 at verizon.net (Joseph Cianciotti)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 17:11:09 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
References: <730979DF-A460-40EF-9164-08A44EC32652.ref@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <730979DF-A460-40EF-9164-08A44EC32652@verizon.net>

Hey folks,

It?s been ages since I?ve given my car a good cleaning, polishing and waxing. As a result, my mineral blue finish, while still shiny, is now pretty oxidized ? almost to barn-find levels. I used to use 3M products. But they?re nowhere to be found near me. Any suggestions of more readily available products? Going to do it by hand and need something that can cut though the oxidation without damaging the paint (too much). 


Joseph 
1967 MGB Roadster

From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Jun  6 19:33:54 2022
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 6 Jun 2022 19:33:54 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
In-Reply-To: <730979DF-A460-40EF-9164-08A44EC32652@verizon.net>
References: <730979DF-A460-40EF-9164-08A44EC32652.ref@verizon.net>
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Message-ID: <80d5d6a1-ef98-10fc-9299-f297c566dc13@bradakis.com>


On 6/6/22 3:11 PM, Joseph Cianciotti wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> It?s been ages since I?ve given my car a good cleaning, polishing and waxing. As a result, my mineral blue finish, while still shiny, is now pretty oxidized ? almost to barn-find levels. I used to use 3M products. But they?re nowhere to be found near me. Any suggestions of more readily available products? Going to do it by hand and need something that can cut though the oxidation without damaging the paint (too much).
>

I'd recommend Meguiar's products, if they are available in your area.? 
I've had good results with their cleaners, waxes, etc.

mjb.



From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Tue Jun  7 05:39:06 2022
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Tue, 07 Jun 2022 06:39:06 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
In-Reply-To: <80d5d6a1-ef98-10fc-9299-f297c566dc13@bradakis.com>
References: <a8710fd4-1387-4233-b2aa-4a4b69352c2d.ref@email.android.com>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Jun  7 08:53:53 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 14:53:53 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
In-Reply-To: <80d5d6a1-ef98-10fc-9299-f297c566dc13@bradakis.com>
References: <730979DF-A460-40EF-9164-08A44EC32652.ref@verizon.net>
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 <80d5d6a1-ef98-10fc-9299-f297c566dc13@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <973f8ba557644a09be458efd5699649c@ranteer.com>

+1 on Meguiars

-----Original Message-----
From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis
Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 8:34 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes


On 6/6/22 3:11 PM, Joseph Cianciotti wrote:
> Hey folks,
>
> It?s been ages since I?ve given my car a good cleaning, polishing and waxing. As a result, my mineral blue finish, while still shiny, is now pretty oxidized ? almost to barn-find levels. I used to use 3M products. But they?re nowhere to be found near me. Any suggestions of more readily available products? Going to do it by hand and need something that can cut though the oxidation without damaging the paint (too much).
>

I'd recommend Meguiar's products, if they are available in your area. I've had good results with their cleaners, waxes, etc.

mjb.


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From difejo1 at gmail.com  Tue Jun  7 09:00:44 2022
From: difejo1 at gmail.com (John DiFede)
Date: Tue, 7 Jun 2022 11:00:44 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
In-Reply-To: <973f8ba557644a09be458efd5699649c@ranteer.com>
References: <973f8ba557644a09be458efd5699649c@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <79CD3BD4-6C7E-45B7-9961-FDED255E079F@gmail.com>

Meguiars gets my vote also.  I use their Mirror Glaze 205 Ultra Finishing Polish for light scratches and swirl marks and paint defects.  It should remove your oxidation

John D 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 7, 2022, at 10:54 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> ?+1 on Meguiars
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Mark Bradakis
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2022 8:34 PM
> To: mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Car cleaners, polishes & waxes
> 
> 
>> On 6/6/22 3:11 PM, Joseph Cianciotti wrote:
>> Hey folks,
>> 
>> It?s been ages since I?ve given my car a good cleaning, polishing and waxing. As a result, my mineral blue finish, while still shiny, is now pretty oxidized ? almost to barn-find levels. I used to use 3M products. But they?re nowhere to be found near me. Any suggestions of more readily available products? Going to do it by hand and need something that can cut though the oxidation without damaging the paint (too much).
>> 
> 
> I'd recommend Meguiar's products, if they are available in your area. I've had good results with their cleaners, waxes, etc.
> 
> mjb.
> 
> 
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From spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 17:28:24 2022
From: spridget at gmail.com (Stan Fickes)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 19:28:24 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB for sale
Message-ID: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>

Please forgive me if this isn't allowed!

My daughter is selling her 1973 MGB. We spent four years working through it
and she has realized she just isn't the right person for a LBC and I'm
restoring an MGTD and maintaining an MGA and a Sprite. But wait, there's
more. If you buy this car, we'll throw in a slightly older red MGB with
hardtop that doesn't run but does have several useful parts. I can answer
specific questions.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/

(Facebook marketplace apparently doesn't know the MG marque. Ugh.)

Thanks!
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Thu Jun 16 17:40:59 2022
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:40:59 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <74706696-F9BF-4B78-A5F6-5C05667A5487@sonic.net>

Yeah, I?m thinking the Facebook marketplace is not the best place to sell a collector car. It doesn?t let you enter your own marque or model, so if you have anything that isn?t on the list, nobody is going to be able to find it. How can I find any MGs for sale when they are randomly listed as Aston Martins or Corvettes? And it ticks off people that are actually looking for Aston Martins (although I would seriously doubt any of those folks are searching Facebook).

I would try The MG Experience website.

Good luck.


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mvheim at sonic.net



> On Jun 16, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Stan Fickes <spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Please forgive me if this isn't allowed!
> 
> My daughter is selling her 1973 MGB. We spent four years working through it and she has realized she just isn't the right person for a LBC and I'm restoring an MGTD and maintaining an MGA and a Sprite. But wait, there's more. If you buy this car, we'll throw in a slightly older red MGB with hardtop that doesn't run but does have several useful parts. I can answer specific questions.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/ <https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/>
> 
> (Facebook marketplace apparently doesn't know the MG marque. Ugh.)
> 
> Thanks!
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From lrc at red4est.com  Thu Jun 16 17:55:24 2022
From: lrc at red4est.com (lrc at red4est.com)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 16:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB for sale
In-Reply-To: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EAB4DAAF-05A6-4162-BE11-7FD2B13D546C@red4est.com>

The map with the ad doesn't show where it is, it just shows an unlabeled road and some lakes

On June 16, 2022 4:28:24 PM PDT, Stan Fickes <spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>Please forgive me if this isn't allowed!
>
>My daughter is selling her 1973 MGB. We spent four years working through it
>and she has realized she just isn't the right person for a LBC and I'm
>restoring an MGTD and maintaining an MGA and a Sprite. But wait, there's
>more. If you buy this car, we'll throw in a slightly older red MGB with
>hardtop that doesn't run but does have several useful parts. I can answer
>specific questions.
>
>https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/
>
>(Facebook marketplace apparently doesn't know the MG marque. Ugh.)
>
>Thanks!

-- 
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 18:12:10 2022
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2022 20:12:10 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB for sale
In-Reply-To: <EAB4DAAF-05A6-4162-BE11-7FD2B13D546C@red4est.com>
References: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
 <EAB4DAAF-05A6-4162-BE11-7FD2B13D546C@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+kjD8JCN7_bwydcL2ASO=aNXNmPBc7gx3v7EyHiz+brTA@mail.gmail.com>

I'm guessing you haven't been to Vermont before..... ;-)

Dan D
'76 MGB
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 7:55 PM <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:

> The map with the ad doesn't show where it is, it just shows an unlabeled
> road and some lakes
>
> On June 16, 2022 4:28:24 PM PDT, Stan Fickes <spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Please forgive me if this isn't allowed!
>>
>> My daughter is selling her 1973 MGB. We spent four years working through
>> it and she has realized she just isn't the right person for a LBC and I'm
>> restoring an MGTD and maintaining an MGA and a Sprite. But wait, there's
>> more. If you buy this car, we'll throw in a slightly older red MGB with
>> hardtop that doesn't run but does have several useful parts. I can answer
>> specific questions.
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/
>>
>> (Facebook marketplace apparently doesn't know the MG marque. Ugh.)
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
> --
> Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.
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From spridget at gmail.com  Thu Jun 16 22:15:36 2022
From: spridget at gmail.com (Stan Fickes)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 00:15:36 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB for sale
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+kjD8JCN7_bwydcL2ASO=aNXNmPBc7gx3v7EyHiz+brTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAK23Kv9Ub63D0pgWgL1sO=27tYmMEeAX-xcetDmdbruvADd45g@mail.gmail.com>
 <EAB4DAAF-05A6-4162-BE11-7FD2B13D546C@red4est.com>
 <CABxEc+kjD8JCN7_bwydcL2ASO=aNXNmPBc7gx3v7EyHiz+brTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK23Kv-oR6soF-2Wc5zhs9CY-7=pTQAPUpMMigXc6JoiT-88_w@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, that's pretty much where we live. Turn right where the barn used to
be, unless you're coming from the west in which case you ... no, you can't
get here from there.

The cars will hopefully be someone else's tomorrow. Thanks!

On Thu, Jun 16, 2022, 8:13 PM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm guessing you haven't been to Vermont before..... ;-)
>
> Dan D
> '76 MGB
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 7:55 PM <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:
>
>> The map with the ad doesn't show where it is, it just shows an unlabeled
>> road and some lakes
>>
>> On June 16, 2022 4:28:24 PM PDT, Stan Fickes <spridget at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Please forgive me if this isn't allowed!
>>>
>>> My daughter is selling her 1973 MGB. We spent four years working through
>>> it and she has realized she just isn't the right person for a LBC and I'm
>>> restoring an MGTD and maintaining an MGA and a Sprite. But wait, there's
>>> more. If you buy this car, we'll throw in a slightly older red MGB with
>>> hardtop that doesn't run but does have several useful parts. I can answer
>>> specific questions.
>>>
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/760438461637462/
>>>
>>> (Facebook marketplace apparently doesn't know the MG marque. Ugh.)
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
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From ptroot at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 10:18:40 2022
From: ptroot at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:18:40 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] DGV throttle setup
Message-ID: <CAPxc_gH0uBd6QqsLDSAJb2Udi8t=WJWe8UaUBX_r7KDK3Qt_UQ@mail.gmail.com>

My 1977 has been running great this year. I attribute it to using Sea Foam
instead of (old) Stabil. That's a good thing especially for this year. My
car has been a city car for the last 15+ years. But we decided to move this
year, and had a 60 mile move to drive it. I had worried, since I haven't
taken the car on any trips so really didn't know what it would do on drives
more than 20-30 minutes.  Other than being on the freeway at 70 with
today's barely conscious drivers, there was nothing to worry about.

Anyway, a week or two back, my throttle cable broke. It has happened
before, the connecting nut cuts into the cable a bit.   I had enough slack
to move the connector up a few holes on the lever, and adjust the sleeve
all the way in, to get home.   Next day, I went to a bike shop and got a
new brake cable to replace.

I also ordered a 75-76 throttle cable from Moss. That's the one with a
metal connector on the end. I'm thinking that would make a better
connection. Still looking at it.

However, the big issue I'm having is that the brake booster hose connects
to the port on the intake manifold right next to the throttle lever. And
the bolt assembly can rub up against it and catch. Making a basically wide
open throttle stuck.

I have seen pictures of the DGV swapped 180 degrees so the throttle is in
the front of the engine, and the cable would route the other way. Has
anyone done this? How does it work? I have a manual choke, which might be
an issue.


On a side note, I got my newly recovered (Mr Mike's upholstery) Miata seats
(with embroidered MG logos)  installed with new mounting rails (Crate
Parts). They are so wonderful. Not a paid endorser, just a happy customer.
But now it shows how badly I need new carpet.

thanks,
Paul.
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Fri Jun 17 12:53:49 2022
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 11:53:49 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] DGV throttle setup
In-Reply-To: <CAPxc_gH0uBd6QqsLDSAJb2Udi8t=WJWe8UaUBX_r7KDK3Qt_UQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAPxc_gH0uBd6QqsLDSAJb2Udi8t=WJWe8UaUBX_r7KDK3Qt_UQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOOZpvJuFFu2JdOuzfHU_y6Vcd03ZODgMXw46C8drnwUDg@mail.gmail.com>

You should not use Seafoam in your MG.  It was originally formulated for
marine 2 stroke engines to get the carbon out.  It is not compatible with 4
stoke engines no matter what the manufacturer says.  Better to use nitrogen
based fuel system cleaners like Techron and such.  Seafoam does not
stabilize the fuel for lengthy periods.  Ethanol makes it very difficult to
keep gas volatile for more than 6 months at the most.  In most cases it
goes bad in 3 months and leaves a gummy residue in your carb.  Try to find
a stabilizer that deals with the ethanol.  By the way, you probably did not
harm your engine with the Seafoam, but I would not continue to use it.
Just my opinion.
Mike MacLean
69 MGB GT
60 Bugeye
56 BN2 LeMans

On Fri, Jun 17, 2022 at 9:19 AM Paul Root <ptroot at gmail.com> wrote:

> My 1977 has been running great this year. I attribute it to using Sea Foam
> instead of (old) Stabil. That's a good thing especially for this year. My
> car has been a city car for the last 15+ years. But we decided to move this
> year, and had a 60 mile move to drive it. I had worried, since I haven't
> taken the car on any trips so really didn't know what it would do on drives
> more than 20-30 minutes.  Other than being on the freeway at 70 with
> today's barely conscious drivers, there was nothing to worry about.
>
> Anyway, a week or two back, my throttle cable broke. It has happened
> before, the connecting nut cuts into the cable a bit.   I had enough slack
> to move the connector up a few holes on the lever, and adjust the sleeve
> all the way in, to get home.   Next day, I went to a bike shop and got a
> new brake cable to replace.
>
> I also ordered a 75-76 throttle cable from Moss. That's the one with a
> metal connector on the end. I'm thinking that would make a better
> connection. Still looking at it.
>
> However, the big issue I'm having is that the brake booster hose connects
> to the port on the intake manifold right next to the throttle lever. And
> the bolt assembly can rub up against it and catch. Making a basically wide
> open throttle stuck.
>
> I have seen pictures of the DGV swapped 180 degrees so the throttle is in
> the front of the engine, and the cable would route the other way. Has
> anyone done this? How does it work? I have a manual choke, which might be
> an issue.
>
>
> On a side note, I got my newly recovered (Mr Mike's upholstery) Miata
> seats (with embroidered MG logos)  installed with new mounting rails (Crate
> Parts). They are so wonderful. Not a paid endorser, just a happy customer.
> But now it shows how badly I need new carpet.
>
> thanks,
> Paul.
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From guinness at stclegal.com  Fri Jun 17 22:00:13 2022
From: guinness at stclegal.com (Robert J. Guinness)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 23:00:13 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1600 seat back threaded bolt size
Message-ID: <e1ee5fe7-3d4c-10a4-bac8-429629d1c246@stclegal.com>

The MGA 1600 seat backs are attached at their base by a threaded bolt 
that screws into threaded holes in the frame base and finishes with a 
nut to hold it all together at the pivot point. Does anyone know the 
dimensions of that bolt?? It is not in Moss's exploded diagram or the MG 
1600 Factory Service Parts List.

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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Fri Jun 17 23:52:52 2022
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2022 23:52:52 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1600 seat back threaded bolt size
In-Reply-To: <e1ee5fe7-3d4c-10a4-bac8-429629d1c246@stclegal.com>
References: <e1ee5fe7-3d4c-10a4-bac8-429629d1c246@stclegal.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1655531633.15280.mgs@autox.team.net>

Robert, --- I'll give it my best shot.

The Service Parts List does not break it down to 
the level of that bolt.  The Seat Assembly -Less 
Cushion includes the two-piece frame and the pivot bolts.

The bolt is actually a shoulder bolt.  It passes 
freely through the hole in the seat back rest, so 
the backrest will hinge on the shoulder bolts 
when the bolts are fixed in place.  I think there 
is also supposed to be a thin thrust washer in between the moving parts.

The upstanding ears on the seat base frame are 
supposed to be threaded.  Pretty sure it is 
5/16-24-UNF thread.  The shoulder bolt screws in 
until the shoulder hits the bracket, and it stops 
turning.  Then the nut is installed inside and 
screws on until the nut hits the ear and 
stops.  Tighten gently, as it is a jam nut to fix 
the shoulder bolt in place.  If the female thread 
was stripped out of the ear, the shoulder bolt 
may hold in place anyway, as long as the nut is 
secure.  I don't remembwr if the thrust washer 
should be trapped under the bolt shoulder, or if 
the washer fits free spinning over the shoulder.

So there is no factory specified part number for 
that bolt in the SPL, although there surely was a 
real part number at the factory.  It would be 
nice if someone could find that part number, but 
the world has effectively done without it for 67 years.

I wouldn't mind making a drawing of the bolt, 
just that I don't have one in hand to measure at 
the moment.  I suppose I could take my car apart 
to "borrow" one long enough to measure 
it.  Problem is. my seats are not original, 
having been replaced with new assemblies from 
Moss Motors a few years ago.  With my luck the new bolts might even be metric.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com


At 10:00 PM 6/17/2022, Robert J. Guinness wrote:
>....
>The MGA 1600 seat backs are attached at their 
>base by a threaded bolt that screws into 
>threaded holes in the frame base and finishes 
>with a nut to hold it all together at the pivot 
>point.?  Does anyone know the dimensions of that 
>bolt??  It is not in Moss's exploded diagram or 
>the MG 1600 Factory Service Parts List.
>
>Robert Guinness
>....
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Jun 22 08:10:44 2022
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:10:44 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
Message-ID: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>

I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a disk car and one is a wire wheel car.

How hard is that?
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Jun 22 10:24:50 2022
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:24:50 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
In-Reply-To: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>
References: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <E1BDF4F3-3C14-422E-AAFC-139EF277196D@sonic.net>

Well, when I had that situation with two MGBs (I wanted to put the wire wheels on the car I was planning to restore, and swap the steel wheels to the car i would dispose of), I swapped the entire suspensions ? the third member (rear axle) with leaf springs, and the front subframe with all suspension attached. You wouldn?t have to do the leafs ? I happened to know which set was newer. Actually, in this case, the wire wheel suspension had been regularly maintained and had many new parts, and the steel wheel setup had been sitting untouched for possibly 30 years, so it was clear that I wanted all the other components along with the wire wheel hubs. If the situation regarding the condition of the parts had been different, I might have tried to do it piecemeal. But in my case the full swap was the easiest and best way.

--
Max Heim
mvheim at sonic.net




> On Jun 22, 2022, at 7:10 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
>  
> How hard is that?
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Jun 22 10:31:30 2022
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 09:31:30 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
In-Reply-To: <358ad23660e04fedb909788405a4ac97@ranteer.com>
References: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>
 <E1BDF4F3-3C14-422E-AAFC-139EF277196D@sonic.net>
 <358ad23660e04fedb909788405a4ac97@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <6F514171-E80B-47D3-9679-05AE34F72756@sonic.net>

Other than getting the bolts started, which is a terror, the front subframe swap is easy. You can even roll it on its wheels from one car to the other. You can roll the rear axle, too, so if you have 8 jack stands it is a pretty smooth operation.


--
Max Heim
mvheim at sonic.net



> On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:27 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> Thank you
>  
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Max Heim
> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:25 AM
> To: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
>  
> Well, when I had that situation with two MGBs (I wanted to put the wire wheels on the car I was planning to restore, and swap the steel wheels to the car i would dispose of), I swapped the entire suspensions ? the third member (rear axle) with leaf springs, and the front subframe with all suspension attached. You wouldn?t have to do the leafs ? I happened to know which set was newer. Actually, in this case, the wire wheel suspension had been regularly maintained and had many new parts, and the steel wheel setup had been sitting untouched for possibly 30 years, so it was clear that I wanted all the other components along with the wire wheel hubs. If the situation regarding the condition of the parts had been different, I might have tried to do it piecemeal. But in my case the full swap was the easiest and best way.
>  
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net>
>  
>  
>  
> 
> 
> On Jun 22, 2022, at 7:10 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:
>  
> I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
>  
> How hard is that?
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Wed Jun 22 10:38:55 2022
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 17:38:55 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
In-Reply-To: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>
References: <c8da219e770d4caf933f2b0be7e09c11@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <023fbe1a-33f0-2aba-2208-b6f621f7c059@virginmedia.com>

Based on the MGB as long as it is the same design of axle it's not 
difficult, just needs a shorter handbrake cable.

On 22/06/2022 15:10, dave northrup wrote:
>
> I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.? I want to swap the axles? Because one is a 
> disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
>
> How hard is that?
>
>
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From ejrussell61 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 22 12:27:31 2022
From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 14:27:31 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 181, Issue 6
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>  Other than getting the bolts started, which is a terror, the front
subframe swap is easy.

You can't swap the subframe (crossmember) in an MGA. It is welded to the
chassis in the MGA, unlike the MGB where it is bolted to the unibody.

You can swap the front hubs. Drum to drum would be easy, disc to disc would
be easy, Not as easy front drum to disc & vice versa. Swap the entire rear
axles (& hand brake cables) as the two axles are slightly different in
overall width (to account for the different back spacing of the wheels). Do
not swap the rear axle shafts - the different lengths will not engage with
the differential gears properly.

More details here: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/suspensn/fs301.htm

EjR

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> From: dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com>
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> Subject: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
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> I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a disk
> car and one is a wire wheel car.
>
> How hard is that?
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> From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
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> Well, when I had that situation with two MGBs (I wanted to put the wire
> wheels on the car I was planning to restore, and swap the steel wheels to
> the car i would dispose of), I swapped the entire suspensions ? the third
> member (rear axle) with leaf springs, and the front subframe with all
> suspension attached. You wouldn?t have to do the leafs ? I happened to know
> which set was newer. Actually, in this case, the wire wheel suspension had
> been regularly maintained and had many new parts, and the steel wheel setup
> had been sitting untouched for possibly 30 years, so it was clear that I
> wanted all the other components along with the wire wheel hubs. If the
> situation regarding the condition of the parts had been different, I might
> have tried to do it piecemeal. But in my case the full swap was the easiest
> and best way.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim at sonic.net
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> > On Jun 22, 2022, at 7:10 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a
> disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
> >
> > How hard is that?
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> From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
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> Other than getting the bolts started, which is a terror, the front
> subframe swap is easy. You can even roll it on its wheels from one car to
> the other. You can roll the rear axle, too, so if you have 8 jack stands it
> is a pretty smooth operation.
>
>
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim at sonic.net
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>
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> > On Jun 22, 2022, at 9:27 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> > From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Max Heim
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 11:25 AM
> > To: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] wire wheels vs disks
> >
> > Well, when I had that situation with two MGBs (I wanted to put the wire
> wheels on the car I was planning to restore, and swap the steel wheels to
> the car i would dispose of), I swapped the entire suspensions ? the third
> member (rear axle) with leaf springs, and the front subframe with all
> suspension attached. You wouldn?t have to do the leafs ? I happened to know
> which set was newer. Actually, in this case, the wire wheel suspension had
> been regularly maintained and had many new parts, and the steel wheel setup
> had been sitting untouched for possibly 30 years, so it was clear that I
> wanted all the other components along with the wire wheel hubs. If the
> situation regarding the condition of the parts had been different, I might
> have tried to do it piecemeal. But in my case the full swap was the easiest
> and best way.
> >
> > --
> > Max Heim
> > mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Jun 22, 2022, at 7:10 AM, dave northrup <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:
> dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.  I want to swap the axles? Because one is a
> disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
> >
> > How hard is that?
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> Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 17:38:55 +0100
> From: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
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> Based on the MGB as long as it is the same design of axle it's not
> difficult, just needs a shorter handbrake cable.
>
> On 22/06/2022 15:10, dave northrup wrote:
> >
> > I have 2 MGAs, 56 and 59.? I want to swap the axles? Because one is a
> > disk car and one is a wire wheel car.
> >
> > How hard is that?
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