From twobees at sprynet.com  Mon Nov  1 08:32:42 2021
From: twobees at sprynet.com (Norm 2Bs)
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2021 10:32:42 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Weber 45DCOE & Maniflow Intake Manifold For Sale
Message-ID: <003101d7cf2d$54c8c240$fe5a46c0$@sprynet.com>

Greetings from a long-time missing from this forum ex- MGB Racer.

 

As much as I miss my old "B" there is little chance I will ever get another
and I just found this lightly used Maniflow intake manifold and Weber 45DCOE
among the "stuff" in my garage.

 

I used this carb & manifold for a short time with the '66 MGB I owned for
many years. I don't remember how long either was used. But, it is time to
send them on to help another MGBer go faster.

 

The Maniflow intake retails for ?185 or $250. The Weber is a 45DCOE  152,
No. 242 02 made in Spain. Looking at one on eBay asking $518 for a new one.
Do a search for 45DCOE's on eBay and you find all kinds of NON-Weber carbs.
But, this is a real one and includes a bunch of jets (Air Correction, Main &
Pump), new gaskets and linkage pieces.

 

Make me an offer for the combination. Buyer pays the shipping from SW
Florida.

 

Norm Sippel

727-787-5929 (mobile)

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From dave at ranteer.com  Fri Nov  5 14:34:20 2021
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 15:34:20 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] door panel clips
Message-ID: <000001d7d284$83351890$899f49b0$@ranteer.com>

We need a couple door panel clips for a 72 mgb roadster.

 

Moss part 226-670

 

I'm thinking there's a similar part available at a flaps or maybe big box
hardware store?  Seems pretty simple.

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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Fri Nov  5 14:50:25 2021
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Fri, 5 Nov 2021 16:50:25 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] door panel clips
In-Reply-To: <000001d7d284$83351890$899f49b0$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d7d284$83351890$899f49b0$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <0F206254-96A3-4834-80C7-D180FB5965F6@gmail.com>

	I got a blister-pack of an equivalent clips at NAPA.
Bob


> On Nov 5, 2021, at 4:34 PM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> We need a couple door panel clips for a 72 mgb roadster.
>  
> Moss part 226-670
>  
> I?m thinking there?s a similar part available at a flaps or maybe big box hardware store?  Seems pretty simple.
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From springer.mike51 at gmail.com  Wed Nov 10 04:41:24 2021
From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean)
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2021 03:41:24 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Exhaust Manifold Wanted
Message-ID: <CAL4ZEOPhSjf288=6Hfxnjrr8493ZJv-RTUY44gdV-K2oh=W7uA@mail.gmail.com>

Anyone have a cast iron stock exhaust manifold for a 1967 MG engine they
would like to sell?  Converting my 69 MGB GT from a Weber carb and
performance header to SU carbs and stock exhaust.  Tired of the exhaust
leaks and Weber tuning.
Mike MacLean
1969 MGB GT with 1967 engine
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From daybell7 at aol.com  Fri Nov 12 08:32:55 2021
From: daybell7 at aol.com (daybell7 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 15:32:55 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Carb Bank Interchangeability
References: <1748034754.130720.1636731175867.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1748034754.130720.1636731175867@mail.yahoo.com>

I have a 1972 MGB with HIF carbs & a 1968 BGT with HS4s newly purchased.? It appears the intake manifolds are the same.? Can I just switch the carb banks?
The BGT needs a clutch, so I want to put the new HS4s on the car that is running.
Thanks,Steve HughesArcher, FL



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From dcouncill at karamursel.org  Fri Nov 12 13:58:54 2021
From: dcouncill at karamursel.org (David Councill)
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2021 12:58:54 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Carb Bank Interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <1748034754.130720.1636731175867@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1748034754.130720.1636731175867.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1748034754.130720.1636731175867@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <56b20c9e-138b-f797-b4ab-dd4c0edb50b8@karamursel.org>

Yes - I did that switch on my 72B. Mostly because I had a decent rebuilt 
set from a 71BGT to use and I am very familiar with the HS4s and no 
experience with the HIF carbs. I did use the HIF carbs for at least a 
few months or so before removal? and they did seem to have some 
advantages, in particular in cold weather starting as I recall.

Now that I have several MGs (67BGT, 72B, 64B), I am giving some thought 
to putting the HIFs back in the 72B this winter, granted I am also 
currently rebuilding the 67BGT.

David Councill

On 11/12/2021 7:32 AM, daybell7 at aol.com wrote:
> I have a 1972 MGB with HIF carbs & a 1968 BGT with HS4s newly 
> purchased.? It appears the intake manifolds are the same.? Can I just 
> switch the carb banks?
>
> The BGT needs a clutch, so I want to put the new HS4s on the car that 
> is running.
>
> Thanks,
> Steve Hughes
> Archer, FL
>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Nov 13 01:50:03 2021
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 08:50:03 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Carb Bank Interchangeability
In-Reply-To: <56b20c9e-138b-f797-b4ab-dd4c0edb50b8@karamursel.org>
References: <1748034754.130720.1636731175867.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1748034754.130720.1636731175867@mail.yahoo.com>
 <56b20c9e-138b-f797-b4ab-dd4c0edb50b8@karamursel.org>
Message-ID: <06cc3df3-126c-ace9-92dd-0f06f694fa7f@virginmedia.com>

Probably, but the fuel supply, choke and throttle controls are 
different.? The air cleaner mounting is as well but they can move with 
the carbs.

PaulH.

On 11/12/2021 7:32 AM, daybell7 at aol.com wrote:
>> I have a 1972 MGB with HIF carbs & a 1968 BGT with HS4s newly 
>> purchased.? It appears the intake manifolds are the same.? Can I just 
>> switch the carb banks?
>>
>> The BGT needs a clutch, so I want to put the new HS4s on the car that 
>> is running.
>
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From daybell7 at aol.com  Sat Nov 13 14:31:40 2021
From: daybell7 at aol.com (daybell7 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2021 21:31:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Carb Bank Interchangeability
References: <2136637738.359389.1636839100207.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2136637738.359389.1636839100207@mail.yahoo.com>

Thanks for the help on this.Steve HughesArcher, FL
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From britfan1 at epix.net  Mon Nov 15 16:10:12 2021
From: britfan1 at epix.net (S.Carr)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 18:10:12 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB exhaust manifold
Message-ID: <2145325897.39869.1637017817033@epix.net>

The Moss catalog lists two different part numbers for the stock cast-iron manifold?depending on the years fitted?but the drawings look identical.  Can anyone supply the casting numbers for each?  We don?t know what we have.

Thanks in advance,
Sarah Carr
BN1 in PA

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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Mon Nov 15 20:25:48 2021
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2021 22:25:48 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB exhaust manifold
In-Reply-To: <2145325897.39869.1637017817033@epix.net>
References: <2145325897.39869.1637017817033@epix.net>
Message-ID: <mailman.1.1637033171.2539.mgs@autox.team.net>

The casting number is commonly one digit 
different from the final part number.  I think 
they made the finished part drawing first, then 
made a copy of it to modify the drawing to show 
more material on the casting before 
machining.  When assigning drawing numbers, the 
finished part number was first followed by the 
casting number.  Some castings can be machined 
differently to make different finished parts (with different part numbers).

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com


At 06:10 PM 11/15/2021, S.Carr wrote:

>The Moss catalog lists two different part 
>numbers for the stock cast-iron 
>manifold?depending on the years fitted?but the 
>drawings look idendentical.?  Can anyone supply 
>the casting numbers for each??  We don???t know what we have.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Sarah Carr
>BN1 in PA
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From harlanjillson at earthlink.net  Tue Nov 16 19:39:05 2021
From: harlanjillson at earthlink.net (Harlan Jillson)
Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2021 20:39:05 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 174, Issue 7
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1637089201.3497.mgs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1637089201.3497.mgs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <45C9D050-85C5-4966-A75F-C0AD23CB56F5@earthlink.net>

Exhaust manifold

Sent from my iPhone
As you have discovered, the early & later manifolds look the same.  They will both work, but they have to have a matching intake to go with it.  Really the only difference between the two is the thickness of the flange where it mounts to the head.  If the intake and exhaust don?t match you?ll have trouble with sealing because the clamp washer won?t put equal pressure on the manifolds.  I don?t remember which is which is which, but one of them is about 1/16 of an inch thicker than the other. Just make sure they match & you?ll be ok.
Harlan

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> The Moss catalog lists two different part numbers for the stock cast-iron manifold?depending on the years fitted?but the drawings look identical.  Can anyone supply the casting numbers for each?  We don?t know what we have.
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> Sarah Carr
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> The casting number is commonly one digit
> different from the final part number.  I think 
> they made the finished part drawing first, then 
> made a copy of it to modify the drawing to show 
> more material on the casting before 
> machining.  When assigning drawing numbers, the 
> finished part number was first followed by the 
> casting number.  Some castings can be machined 
> differently to make different finished parts (with different part numbers).
> 
> Barney Gaylord
> 1958 MGA with an attitude
> http://MGAguru.com
> 
> 
> At 06:10 PM 11/15/2021, S.Carr wrote:
> 
>> The Moss catalog lists two different part 
>> numbers for the stock cast-iron 
>> manifold?depending on the years fitted?but the 
>> drawings look idendentical.?  Can anyone supply 
>> the casting numbers for each??  We don???t know what we have.
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Sarah Carr
>> BN1 in PA
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Nov 30 18:10:56 2021
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave northrup)
Date: Wed, 1 Dec 2021 01:10:56 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB roadster
Message-ID: <65c71d32ab7d495ea8f56c1a0005bb66@ranteer.com>

Haven't had it too long.  Seemed to be running ok; had transmission problems so we swapped out for a good one.

Just had a very knowledgeable friend set the timing and the carbs and the choke adjustment.

Pull the choke all the way out and it starts ok; but seems to backfire a bit, especially when cold.  After it warms up you can push the choke back in and it runs and idles ok except it seems to have a loss of power in the 3000 + rpm range, and does occasionally still backfire.

Has a Pertronix but other than that seems pretty stock including the air pump.  Tends to run on a bit after you turn it off.
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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Tue Nov 30 23:21:24 2021
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Wed, 01 Dec 2021 01:21:24 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] 1973 MGB roadster
In-Reply-To: <65c71d32ab7d495ea8f56c1a0005bb66@ranteer.com>
References: <65c71d32ab7d495ea8f56c1a0005bb66@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.0.1638339708.13627.mgs@autox.team.net>

The '73 MGB should have JIF carburetors, carbon canister and 
anti-run-on valve (also air pimp and gulp valve).  If ll is in place, 
the ARO valve should prevent run-on when switched off.  With backfire 
and low power at road speed, you may have a vacuum leak of lean fuel 
condition.  Tell us what is not installed exactly as original.  Has 
the throttle valve poppets been soldered shut?  Missing air pump or 
gulp valve?  Missing of disconnected carbon canister or ARO 
valve?  Is distributor vacuum advanve working?


At 08:10 PM 11/30/2021, dave northrup wrote:
>....
>Haven't had it too long.  Seemed to be running ok; had transmission 
>problems so we swapped out for a good one.
>
>Just had a very knowledgeable friend set the timing and the carbs 
>and the choke adjustment.
>
>Pull the choke all the way out and it starts ok; but seems to 
>backfire a bit, especially when cold.  After it warms up you can 
>push the choke back in and it runs and idles ok except it seems to 
>have a loss of power in the 3000 + rpm range, and does occasionally 
>still backfire.
>
>Has a Pertronix but other than that seems pretty stock including the 
>air pump.  Tends to run on a bit after you turn it off.
>....
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