[Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 168, Issue 10

Jay Nadelson nadelson at alum.mit.edu
Wed May 19 12:12:49 MDT 2021


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>    1. Re: Mgs Digest, Vol 168, Issue 9 (Eric Russell)
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> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:15:47 -0400
> From: Eric Russell <ejrussell61 at gmail.com>
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> I have done it both ways (MGA & MGB). Generally, unless I need to have the
> transmission out, I'll take out just the engine. Two tips I can offer.
>
> 1) Remove the crank pulley before pulling the engine (and replace it after
> re-installation). This can give you an extra inch of maneuvering room in
> the engine bay.
>
> B) Use a good clutch alignment tool or a spare first motion shaft (doesn't
> everyone have a bin of spare first motion shafts?!?). And - most important,
> even when using a good alignment tool - you must not slide it in and let it
> hang. There is enough play in the assembly that the clutch will not be
> perfectly aligned unless you hold the tool perpendicular to the clutch.
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> EjR
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> >    1. Re: 1980 MGB engine removal (mghirsch at netzero.net)
> >    2. Re: 1980 MGB engine removal (Max Heim)
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> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 16:08:02 GMT
> > From: "mghirsch at netzero.net" <mghirsch at netzero.net>
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> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1980 MGB engine removal
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> > It is possible.  But I have found it easier to pull Both together.
> > Especially when mating it up to the tranny.
> > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > From: S.Carr <britfan1 at epix.net>
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> > Subject: [Mgs] 1980 MGB engine removal
> > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 20:09:08 -0400
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> >
> > The workshop manual recommends removing the engine and gearbox as one
> > unit.?  Has anyone had success removing the engine while leaving the
> > gearbox in place??  All bell housing bolts appear accessible, and a
> friend
> > would love to not have to remove the console, carpet, gearshift,
> > driveshaft, etc., to get the engine out--the head has serious problems,
> and
> > he fears the block will too.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Sarah Carr
> > ?€˜71 B/GT in PA
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> > Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 09:29:00 -0700
> > From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
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> > Subject: Re: [Mgs] 1980 MGB engine removal
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> > Obviously, both methods are possible; they have different advantages and
> > problems.
> >
> > The workshop manual knows what it is talking about and lays out all the
> > steps. If you choose another method it is up to you to work out the order
> > of assembly issues.
> >
> > Yes, if you pull both there are few extra items to remove, but not many:
> > shift lever, reverse switch wire, OD wires if present, crossmember &
> trans
> > mount bolts, speedo cable. You also need to raise the car enough for the
> > tailshaft to tilt in.
> >
> > If you pull just the engine, you have to do all the fiddly stuff
> (aligning
> > the clutch, undoing and refitting the engine-trans bolts) under the car
> > with limited access, so you have to raise the car anyway.
> >
> > Sometimes it works like a charm, but on occasion the clutch just won't
> > align and you can spend hours mucking with it, squandering any time you
> > ?saved?.
> >
> > I just did an engine install with the transmission in place (not on an
> > MG), and it took almost two hours to get the engine aligned to the torque
> > converter. We did it that way at the insistence of my buddy (it was his
> > garage and his lift, although it was my car), but I really think we would
> > have been better off doing it my way, with both together. The reason I
> went
> > along was I was afraid his hoist couldn?t lift the combo high enough to
> > clear the nose of the car. That isn?t really a problem with the low slung
> > MG.
> >
> > --
> > Max Heim
> > '66 MGB
> >
> >
> >
> > > On May 18, 2021, at 9:08 AM, mghirsch at netzero.net wrote:
> > >
> > > It is possible.  But I have found it easier to pull Both together.
> > Especially when mating it up to the tranny.
> > > ---------- Original Message ----------
> > > From: S.Carr <britfan1 at epix.net>
> > > To: MGs <mgs at autox.team.net>
> > > Subject: [Mgs] 1980 MGB engine removal
> > > Date: Sun, 16 May 2021 20:09:08 -0400
> > >
> > >
> > > The workshop manual recommends removing the engine and gearbox as one
> > unit.?  Has anyone had success removing the engine while leaving the
> > gearbox in place??  All bell housing bolts appear accessible, and a
> friend
> > would love to not have to remove the console, carpet, gearshift,
> > driveshaft, etc., to get the engine out--the head has serious problems,
> and
> > he fears the block will too.
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Sarah Carr
> > >
> > > ???71 B/GT in PA
> > >
> > >
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> Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 16:15:28 -0400
> From: Frank Krajewski <frankk12 at verizon.net>
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> Subject: [Mgs] Tranny removal
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> It?s always a good idea to replace the pilot bushing as well when you
> replace the clutch disc and pressure plate.  Remember to lube it, the
> bushing that is and the end of the input or first motion shaft.
> Frank Krajewski
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