From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Tue Jun 1 17:29:49 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 16:29:49 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Steering Column Cowl Message-ID: Anyone know where to get the plastic shell around the steering column behind the steering wheel for a 1969 MGB GT? Mine is cracked almost in two on the left side. In fact, that is all I need is the left side. Mike MacLean 1969 MGB GT -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Tue Jun 1 17:58:16 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2021 16:58:16 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Steering Column Cowl In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Moss has them Ira Erbs Milwaukie,OR _______ _______ (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______) (_________________________) BT7 engine and disk brakes 1967 MGB [image: MG] A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words On Tue, Jun 1, 2021 at 4:30 PM Michael MacLean wrote: > Anyone know where to get the plastic shell around the steering column > behind the steering wheel for a 1969 MGB GT? Mine is cracked almost in two > on the left side. In fact, that is all I need is the left side. > Mike MacLean > 1969 MGB GT > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Fri Jun 11 19:21:50 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2021 18:21:50 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Alternator Mounting Message-ID: Look at the picture. This alternator is in my 1969 MGB GT. It is charging OK, but the engine is running hot. I tried today to tighten the fan belt which was way too easy to turn by hand without moving the belt. I could not tighten it enough to stop the fan from slipping. It looks jury rigged to me, but I have no other examples to go by. By the way, the engine is from a 67 B according to the serial number. Mike MacLean 1969 MGB GT 1960 Bugeye 1956 Austin Healey BN2 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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If the belt is slack it would normally spin on the alt pulley with a shriek rather than the crank or pump pulleys so cooling shouldn't be affected, but if it's loose then you need to check the adjuster link under the alt and see if it is at its fullest extent or not. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Look at the picture. This alternator is in my 1969 MGB GT. It is charging OK, but the engine is running hot. I tried today to tighten the fan belt which was way too easy to turn by hand without moving the belt. I could not tighten it enough to stop the fan from slipping. It looks jury rigged to me, but I have no other examples to go by. By the way, the engine is from a 67 B according to the serial number. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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By the way, the > engine is from a 67 B according to the serial number. > Mike MacLean > 1969 MGB GT > 1960 Bugeye > 1956 Austin Healey BN2 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Tue Jun 15 14:17:02 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:17:02 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil Message-ID: I watched a recent John Twist video today on fitting H type SU carbs to a T type MG. In the video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the dashpot. He also said the lighter oils and ATF that so many people recommend contribute to the early wear and tear on the carb. Anyone else using this weight oil in the carb? All my life I have been putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. Mike MacLean 1969 MGB GT 1960 Austin Healey Sprite 1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Tue Jun 15 15:00:10 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave at ranteer.com) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:00:10 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil Message-ID: <20210615140010.eacca00412c4e976446146f9b5e47255.f6d8a5cf13.wbe@email26.godaddy.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvheim at sonic.net Tue Jun 15 15:25:21 2021 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:25:21 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3D429012-A7E1-4C52-AD87-6696F1C065F4@sonic.net> I find it hard to believe that light oils contribute to ?wear? in the carbs. The oil isn?t there to lubricate the carb ? it?s there so that its viscosity acts as a damper to piston movement. Higher viscosity would enhance dampening (and then, consider, how much dampening do you want?), but it wouldn?t have any effect on wear that I could see. I suppose it is conceivable that it would help mitigate the effects of prior wear (presumably there is some on 60-year-old carbs) by filling the gaps and restoring the intended level of dampening, but this would need to be established on a case-by-case basis. Are you sure he wasn?t merely using the 90W as a cure for this particular application? -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Jun 15, 2021, at 1:17 PM, Michael MacLean wrote: > > I watched a recent John Twist video today on fitting H type SU carbs to a T type MG. In the video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the dashpot. He also said the lighter oils and ATF that so many people recommend contribute to the early wear and tear on the carb. Anyone else using this weight oil in the carb? All my life I have been putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. > Mike MacLean > 1969 MGB GT > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite > 1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankk12 at verizon.net Tue Jun 15 15:28:59 2021 From: frankk12 at verizon.net (Frank Krajewski) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:28:59 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot oil References: <48393771-D8F7-474E-85C1-F5667172FAE3.ref@verizon.net> Message-ID: <48393771-D8F7-474E-85C1-F5667172FAE3@verizon.net> If i am not mistaken, Moss and others sell dashpot oil. Frank Krajewski Sent from my iPad From mvheim at sonic.net Tue Jun 15 15:35:31 2021 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:35:31 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot oil In-Reply-To: <48393771-D8F7-474E-85C1-F5667172FAE3@verizon.net> References: <48393771-D8F7-474E-85C1-F5667172FAE3.ref@verizon.net> <48393771-D8F7-474E-85C1-F5667172FAE3@verizon.net> Message-ID: <3B5128EF-DD05-4A4C-B7E6-9B36C1CB4F96@sonic.net> Yes, they do? ?official? SU dashpot oil. I have a couple bottles?. not sure it has any mystical properties, but it does come in a handy squeeze bottle. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Jun 15, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Frank Krajewski wrote: > > If i am not mistaken, Moss and others sell dashpot oil. > Frank Krajewski > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From strovato at optonline.net Tue Jun 15 15:35:05 2021 From: strovato at optonline.net (Steven Trovato) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:35:05 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Mike, Everyone has an opinion on this subject. If you are happy with 20 wt, use that. If you want to try 90 wt gear oil, give that a try. I don't believe any of these choices are going to damage anything. It is pretty easy to switch if you want to try something else. Someone will tell you that the gear oil and motor oil are not measured on the same scale. I guess that someone is me. https://bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/ John Twist knows more about MGs than just about anyone, but some equally wise people disagree with him on this particular subject. I don't think you are going to find a "right" answer. -Steve T. At 04:17 PM 6/15/2021, Michael MacLean wrote: >I watched a recent John Twist video today on >fitting H type SU carbs to a T type MG.? In the >video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the >dashpot.? He also said the lighter oils and ATF >that so many people recommend contribute to the >early wear and tear on the carb.? Anyone else >using this weight oil in the carb?? All my life >I have been putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. >Mike MacLean >1969 MGB GT >1960 Austin Healey Sprite >1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus From mvheim at sonic.net Tue Jun 15 15:52:52 2021 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 14:52:52 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot oil In-Reply-To: <5F538310-9908-4717-985F-B7ED7E92264E@verizon.net> References: <3B5128EF-DD05-4A4C-B7E6-9B36C1CB4F96@sonic.net> <5F538310-9908-4717-985F-B7ED7E92264E@verizon.net> Message-ID: You know, I never really tried to compare it with anything. Color-wise it looks pretty much like 30W. Of course, temperature is a big factor when evaluating the viscosity. Next time I?m out in the shop I will actually do a comparison... -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Jun 15, 2021, at 2:46 PM, Frank Krajewski wrote: > > Any idea of the viscosity of the ?official? oil? > Frank Krajewski > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Jun 15, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Max Heim wrote: >> >> ?Yes, they do? ?official? SU dashpot oil. I have a couple bottles?. not sure it has any mystical properties, but it does come in a handy squeeze bottle. >> >> -- >> Max Heim >> '66 MGB >> >>> On Jun 15, 2021, at 2:28 PM, Frank Krajewski > wrote: >>> >>> If i am not mistaken, Moss and others sell dashpot oil. >>> Frank Krajewski >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/frankk12 at verizon.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Tue Jun 15 16:15:39 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 17:15:39 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <001501d76233$fb07de50$f1179af0$@ranteer.com> I disagree. They are ALL "right answers" -----Original Message----- From: Mgs On Behalf Of Steven Trovato Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:35 PM To: Michael MacLean ; mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil Mike, Everyone has an opinion on this subject. If you are happy with 20 wt, use that. If you want to try 90 wt gear oil, give that a try. I don't believe any of these choices are going to damage anything. It is pretty easy to switch if you want to try something else. Someone will tell you that the gear oil and motor oil are not measured on the same scale. I guess that someone is me. https://bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/ John Twist knows more about MGs than just about anyone, but some equally wise people disagree with him on this particular subject. I don't think you are going to find a "right" answer. -Steve T. At 04:17 PM 6/15/2021, Michael MacLean wrote: >I watched a recent John Twist video today on fitting H type SU carbs to >a T type MG.? In the video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the >dashpot.? He also said the lighter oils and ATF that so many people >recommend contribute to the early wear and tear on the carb.? Anyone >else using this weight oil in the carb?? All my life I have been >putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. >Mike MacLean >1969 MGB GT >1960 Austin Healey Sprite >1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dave at ranteer.com From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Tue Jun 15 23:21:42 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 22:21:42 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: <001501d76233$fb07de50$f1179af0$@ranteer.com> References: <001501d76233$fb07de50$f1179af0$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: Here is the video. https://youtu.be/ttREt7jzthM Mike MacLean On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 4:02 PM dave wrote: > I disagree. They are ALL "right answers" > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mgs On Behalf Of Steven Trovato > Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 4:35 PM > To: Michael MacLean ; mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil > > Mike, > Everyone has an opinion on this subject. If you are happy with 20 wt, use > that. If you want to try 90 wt gear oil, give that a try. I don't believe > any of these choices are going to damage anything. It is pretty easy to > switch if you want to try something else. Someone will tell you that the > gear oil and motor oil are not measured on the same scale. I guess that > someone is me. https://bobistheoilguy.com/viscosity-charts/ > John Twist knows more about MGs than just about anyone, but some equally > wise people disagree with him on this particular subject. I don't think > you > are going to find a "right" answer. > > -Steve T. > > At 04:17 PM 6/15/2021, Michael MacLean wrote: > >I watched a recent John Twist video today on fitting H type SU carbs to > >a T type MG.? In the video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the > >dashpot.? He also said the lighter oils and ATF that so many people > >recommend contribute to the early wear and tear on the carb.? Anyone > >else using this weight oil in the carb?? All my life I have been > >putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. > >Mike MacLean > >1969 MGB GT > >1960 Austin Healey Sprite > >1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans > > > -- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dave at ranteer.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Bought it as a joke to have on my shelf Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Tue, Jun 15, 2021, 2:18 PM wrote: > i use marvel magic mystery oil > > many people just use whatever engine oil they happen to carry anyway. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Wed Jun 16 11:00:33 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (Paul) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:00:33 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: 90 gear oil is almost the same viscosity as 20/50 engine oil, which all you need. Sent from my iPad > On 15 Jun 2021, at 21:17, Michael MacLean wrote: > > I watched a recent John Twist video today on fitting H type SU carbs to a T type MG. In the video he says to use 90 wt gear oil in the dashpot. He also said the lighter oils and ATF that so many people recommend contribute to the early wear and tear on the carb. Anyone else using this weight oil in the carb? All my life I have been putting 20 wt oil inthe dashpot. > Mike MacLean > 1969 MGB GT > 1960 Austin Healey Sprite > 1956 Austin Healey BN2 LeMans > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com From mvheim at sonic.net Wed Jun 16 19:54:16 2021 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2021 18:54:16 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As was suggested by one of our esteemed members, I performed a test just now, comparing ?Official SU Oil?, 10W30 motor oil, and 75W90 gear oil. I poured a line of the oil on a plastic lid, then tilted it to observe the ?legs? (to use an oenophile term). As far as I could tell, there was no real difference in how fast they flowed or how ?viscous? they appeared. This leads me to believe that any reasonable grade of motor oil would serve the purpose. But keep in mind that the ambient temperature was 85? F. Now think of your poor carbs in a cold garage in Maine, or Wisconsin, in February. I am wondering how stiff the gear oil would be under those circumstances. -- Max Heim '66 MGB -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgbobh at gmail.com Thu Jun 17 05:11:08 2021 From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad) Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 07:11:08 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3E6EF2CE-BCC6-4B3E-B526-727CA12863DF@gmail.com> We will have to wait until February to run your test again, though we might try keeping the oils in the freezer overnight. I have always used motor oil, of whatever blend was in the engines, but do have a viscosity tale to share. Once I leave my driveway, there is a slight down grade. On cold winter mornings when salt was not on the road, I would drive out and struggle to shift into second at low speed, because the car slowed during slow shifts. When I changed rear axle oil from 90 to synthetic 75-90, the rolling speed dropped imperceptibly. This happened with both TD and MGB. Bob > On Jun 16, 2021, at 9:54 PM, Max Heim wrote: > > As was suggested by one of our esteemed members, I performed a test just now, comparing ?Official SU Oil?, 10W30 motor oil, and 75W90 gear oil. > > I poured a line of the oil on a plastic lid, then tilted it to observe the ?legs? (to use an oenophile term). As far as I could tell, there was no real difference in how fast they flowed or how ?viscous? they appeared. This leads me to believe that any reasonable grade of motor oil would serve the purpose. > > But keep in mind that the ambient temperature was 85? F. Now think of your poor carbs in a cold garage in Maine, or Wisconsin, in February. I am wondering how stiff the gear oil would be under those circumstances. > > -- > Max Heim > '66 MGB > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Sat Jun 19 02:44:33 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 09:44:33 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Dashpot Oil References: Message-ID: <1A03098018B74E52A56ADCCA032451DE@paul> The 'stiffer' it is, the more enrichment there is when opening the throttle, which might be no bad thing in very cold weather ... ----- Original Message ----- ... But keep in mind that the ambient temperature was 85? F. Now think of your poor carbs in a cold garage in Maine, or Wisconsin, in February. I am wondering how stiff the gear oil would be under those circumstances. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Sun Jun 20 15:26:43 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 16:26:43 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Hose to ????? Message-ID: Never mind.? With a bright light i found it.? ?Gulp valve -------- Original message --------From: dave Date: 6/20/21 4:23 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mga List Subject: Hose to ????? Am cleaning this very original low mileage 79 mgb.? The other end of this hose came loose.Can someone tell me where it plugs in please? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Mon Jun 21 04:14:53 2021 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:14:53 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Hose to ????? In-Reply-To: <20210620212725.1AB19A0B3F@autox.team.net> References: <20210620212725.1AB19A0B3F@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <004d01d76686$47130a80$d5391f80$@planet.nl> Wow, Gulp valve still present. That is pretty original Dave. My 1971 BGT was purchased in 1990 with this gulp valve missing? Cheers, Hans Van: Mgs Namens dave Verzonden: zondag 20 juni 2021 23:27 Aan: Mga List Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Hose to ????? Never mind. With a bright light i found it. Gulp valve -------- Original message -------- From: dave > Date: 6/20/21 4:23 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mga List > Subject: Hose to ????? Am cleaning this very original low mileage 79 mgb. The other end of this hose came loose. Can someone tell me where it plugs in please? -- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Mon Jun 21 05:31:36 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 12:31:36 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Hose to ????? References: <20210620212725.1AB19A0B3F@autox.team.net> <004d01d76686$47130a80$d5391f80$@planet.nl> Message-ID: Don't some states require all the emissions kit to be present? ----- Original Message ----- Wow, Gulp valve still present. That is pretty original Dave. My 1971 BGT was purchased in 1990 with this gulp valve missing? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Mon Jun 21 07:48:56 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:48:56 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Hose to ????? In-Reply-To: References: <20210620212725.1AB19A0B3F@autox.team.net> <004d01d76686$47130a80$d5391f80$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <001e01d766a4$3046b950$90d42bf0$@ranteer.com> I believe California is pretty stringent. In Texas once a car becomes an antique (25 years old) it does not matter. From: Mgs On Behalf Of PaulHunt73 Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 6:32 AM To: 'Mga List' Subject: Re: [Mgs] Hose to ????? Don't some states require all the emissions kit to be present? ----- Original Message ----- Wow, Gulp valve still present. That is pretty original Dave. My 1971 BGT was purchased in 1990 with this gulp valve missing? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Mon Jun 21 07:56:33 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2021 08:56:33 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Hose to ????? In-Reply-To: <004d01d76686$47130a80$d5391f80$@planet.nl> References: <20210620212725.1AB19A0B3F@autox.team.net> <004d01d76686$47130a80$d5391f80$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <002301d766a5$40293b80$c07bb280$@ranteer.com> This is an extraordinarily original car. We are pretty sure even the paint is original. It even has the original dealer installed MGB side stripes and logo, the unleaded only sticker under the gas cap, and all the stickers in the engine compartment. Since it?s a Texas car it has some surface rust in the engine compartment but other than that its quite clean. I?ll post pictures at some point. It only has 54k miles, most of which are documented. Pretty much everything is there and original. We only replaced the drive side seat foam, webbing, the battery, and the fan relay. We think we are the third owners. I think the first owner drove it a bit, then the second owner mostly kept it in his condo parking garage. From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl Sent: Monday, June 21, 2021 5:15 AM To: 'dave' ; 'Mga List' Subject: RE: [Mgs] Hose to ????? Wow, Gulp valve still present. That is pretty original Dave. My 1971 BGT was purchased in 1990 with this gulp valve missing? Cheers, Hans Van: Mgs > Namens dave Verzonden: zondag 20 juni 2021 23:27 Aan: Mga List > Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Hose to ????? Never mind. With a bright light i found it. Gulp valve -------- Original message -------- From: dave > Date: 6/20/21 4:23 PM (GMT-06:00) To: Mga List > Subject: Hose to ????? Am cleaning this very original low mileage 79 mgb. The other end of this hose came loose. Can someone tell me where it plugs in please? Virusvrij. www.avast.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Made in England, NOT! Mike MacLean -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.dibiase at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 05:27:03 2021 From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:27:03 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> Message-ID: Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 wrote: > I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in > England these days, or America for that matter? > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in > England, NOT! > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 24 05:46:09 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:46:09 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Water Pump References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> Message-ID: Talking to a chap recently with a leaking pump, reluctant to replace it given the reported problems with new units so he has sent it off to a rebuilder who does them for Jags and the like - I'm waiting to hear how much that costs! ----- Original Message ----- Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paul at ece.rochester.edu Thu Jun 24 06:52:50 2021 From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 12:52:50 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> Message-ID: Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t we just get good part. Paul Paul Osborne Department of Electrical and Computer Eng University of Rochester 201 Hopeman Building RC Rochester NY 14627 585-275-5226 On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase > wrote: Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 > wrote: I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? ----- Original Message ----- Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! 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And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! >> >> Dan D >> '76B, '65B >> Central NJ USA >> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ >> >> >>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 wrote: >>> I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> >>> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! >>> Mike MacLean >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= >> >> Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dave at ranteer.com Thu Jun 24 07:23:40 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 08:23:40 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him rebuild one for you. it will last. http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for that other brand. Not for us. From: Mgs On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM To: Osborne, Paul Cc: mglist Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included at an acceptable selling price. One is so often disappointed. Bob On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul > wrote: Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t we just get good part. Paul Paul Osborne Department of Electrical and Computer Eng University of Rochester 201 Hopeman Building RC Rochester NY 14627 585-275-5226 On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase > wrote: Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 > wrote: I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? ----- Original Message ----- Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! Mike MacLean _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html &d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs &d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive &d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu &d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ejrussell61 at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:27:56 2021 From: ejrussell61 at gmail.com (Eric Russell) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:27:56 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > > Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in > England, NOT! > What was your expectation? Was it advertised as 'Made in England'? https://mossmotors.com/water-pump-with-gasket-aftermarket -- Eric Russell Mebane, NC -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From springer.mike51 at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:46:43 2021 From: springer.mike51 at gmail.com (Michael MacLean) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:46:43 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The country of manufacture was not mentioned in the Moss catalog. They only offer this one pump for this year (1969) MG. I am not complaining about the price, but I do not have a lot of faith in anything made in China. It is made of cast iron and the quality of the casting does not look bad at all. The shaft turns smoothly. I'm just worried how long this pump will last knowing the quality of Chinese manufacturing. Does anyone make a quality water pump for a 1969 MG? Mike MacLean On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 7:28 AM Eric Russell wrote: > Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in >> England, NOT! >> > > What was your expectation? Was it advertised as 'Made in England'? > https://mossmotors.com/water-pump-with-gasket-aftermarket > -- > Eric Russell > Mebane, NC > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/springer.mike51 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:56:21 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:56:21 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> Message-ID: Agreed Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 4:28 AM Dan DiBiase wrote: > Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! > > Dan D > '76B, '65B > Central NJ USA > http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 > wrote: > >> I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in >> England these days, or America for that matter? >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in >> England, NOT! >> Mike MacLean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 08:57:29 2021 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 07:57:29 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Better than the ones made in India. Ira Erbs 1959 AH 100-6 1967 MGB Milwaukie, OR On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 7:47 AM Michael MacLean wrote: > The country of manufacture was not mentioned in the Moss catalog. They > only offer this one pump for this year (1969) MG. I am not complaining > about the price, but I do not have a lot of faith in anything made in > China. It is made of cast iron and the quality of the casting does not > look bad at all. The shaft turns smoothly. I'm just worried how long this > pump will last knowing the quality of Chinese manufacturing. Does anyone > make a quality water pump for a 1969 MG? > Mike MacLean > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021, 7:28 AM Eric Russell wrote: > >> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in >>> England, NOT! >>> >> >> What was your expectation? Was it advertised as 'Made in England'? >> https://mossmotors.com/water-pump-with-gasket-aftermarket >> -- >> Eric Russell >> Mebane, NC >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/springer.mike51 at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 24 09:43:13 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:43:13 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 169, Issue 8 References: Message-ID: <53B3C811A8D44DD69072F9588F1A04AD@paul> Ditto timing chain tensioners. ----- Original Message ----- Better than the ones made in India. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Jun 24 09:45:59 2021 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:45:59 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <07855F0D0B824B1CB1DEF69E83914FA8@paul> I'm old enough to remember my parents telling me that products marked 'Empire made' i.e. Hong Kong were rubbish and that was over 60 years ago. Blame end-users who chase the cheapest price. ----- Original Message ----- One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included at an acceptable selling price. One is so often disappointed. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From stargazer1 at cox.net Thu Jun 24 11:13:55 2021 From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 10:13:55 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Misunderstood Email Message-ID: <2a7ea8f5-d539-0901-fe08-9419a385fc63@cox.net> This morning, I get an email with the subject, /Sale on Body Hardware Starts Now. /I'm thinking, "Why is anyone sending me emails about body piercing?" Then, it turns out to be from The Roadster Factory. I think another cup of coffee is in order. Cheers, Dave Ambrose -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From thgun at comporium.net Thu Jun 24 14:06:10 2021 From: thgun at comporium.net (Thomas Gunderson) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 16:06:10 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Brake shoes Message-ID: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> How can I improve the standard brakes? Tom Gunderson 1957 MGA 1500 rst Sent from my iPhone X From dave at ranteer.com Thu Jun 24 14:15:57 2021 From: dave at ranteer.com (dave) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 15:15:57 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Brake shoes In-Reply-To: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> References: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> Message-ID: <003301d76935$bfefb5a0$3fcf20e0$@ranteer.com> That's a very open ended question. The standard brakes on the 1500 work pretty well to stop the car. Barney Gaylord in MgaGuru discusses the whole issue on his website. Are you going racing? You just want it to stop better? How much better? And how do you define better? If your master cylinder is working correctly, you have new hoses, well adjusted brakes all around, and shoes in good shape then it is stopping just fine. Easiest way to stop better - fatter, stickier tires - bigger better tire patch on the road. After that, do you want to implement the front disk brakes on the 1600 or MGB? Get a 1600 or an MGB Disk brakes all around like on a Miata? Get a Miata -----Original Message----- From: Mgs On Behalf Of Thomas Gunderson Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 3:06 PM To: Mga List Subject: [Mgs] Brake shoes How can I improve the standard brakes? Tom Gunderson 1957 MGA 1500 rst Sent from my iPhone X _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dave at ranteer.com From paul at ece.rochester.edu Thu Jun 24 15:44:48 2021 From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 21:44:48 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Brake shoes In-Reply-To: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> References: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> Message-ID: <29C2EE4C-0DD0-4AB1-ADD2-0FC546A9F809@ur.rochester.edu> Hi Tom, Brakes, ah, first what is wrong with the brakes on your 1500? I to have a 57 1500 and was having a heck of a time getting it all to where I thought I needed to be. I also have a 74 BGT. The short of it with out all the expiation, unless you want it, The arc of the shoe has to match that of the arc of the drum or the brakes are poor. New shoes are sort of close. Now you can sand to fit each shoe pair to the drum before you install, or tighten them up and drive the car, with a good many hard slow downs. Yes they will get warm. After the seat-in you can lock all 4s with out a lot of effort. MG made a lot As with drum brakes before they went to disc. They all stopped. The conversion to disc is about $900-1200 or if you want a shop to do it my guess is about 2500. So, what do you not like about your 57 A s brakes. Paul > Paul Osborne > Department of Electrical and Computer Eng > University of Rochester > 201 Hopeman Building RC > Rochester NY 14627 > 585-275-5226 > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Thomas Gunderson wrote: > > How can I improve the standard brakes? > Tom Gunderson 1957 MGA 1500 rst > > Sent from my iPhone X > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=UbnvJ9sJn3BLxuNAX2wa0NLHxqH0pMqbes_KKp_bsjM&s=qxEnJZB9JwiiAU97S20HZSmTRLFPo6IplQjTWeNh2ng&e= > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=UbnvJ9sJn3BLxuNAX2wa0NLHxqH0pMqbes_KKp_bsjM&s=Q9Vy9o1ZhV5Z3FzGs389FDOQdTtGERr7JXh_w830hJw&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=UbnvJ9sJn3BLxuNAX2wa0NLHxqH0pMqbes_KKp_bsjM&s=nLAcZYIsszwmaLazsbDeO_twIZd1lGhe9a9SPG5A05Y&e= > > Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=UbnvJ9sJn3BLxuNAX2wa0NLHxqH0pMqbes_KKp_bsjM&s=7TeLbxyIF6Qmw1j-ennHlUReIYUb-Ed5i51fvzuomU8&e= From barneymg at mgaguru.com Thu Jun 24 16:04:33 2021 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:04:33 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Brake shoes In-Reply-To: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> References: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> Message-ID: Keep the shoes properly adjusted, and use slightly larger modern radial tires. 155-80-15 would be close to the orginal 5.60-15 bias ply tires for size. 165-80-15 is closest to original diameter to make the speedometer and odometer most accurate. 165 is also more common and may even be cheaper than 155, and is the largert tire recomended for use on 4" wide rims. That said, a lot of people have installed 185-70-15 tires on 4" or 4-1/2" rims with pretty good results. Not real pretty on the narrow rims, but they work. Keep the shock absorber fluid topped up so the wheels and tires don't bounce while on the brakes (especially in corners). More rigid wheels also help reduce bounce and wobble (especially on bumps in corners). That is, 60-spoke wire wheels can improve braking, believe it or not. 72-spoke as well (although they look somewhat "busy" on an MGA). Most alloy wheels will also be stiffer than any factory wheels (wire or steel), so as strange as the odd alloy wheels may look on the MGA, they can and do brake and handle better (especially on bumpy surfaces). The ultimate limit for braking is grip where the rubber meets the road. When you can step hard on the pedal and lock up all four wheels at any speed, it doesn't get any better than that. Youi could install soft rubber race tires that grip better and wear out a lot faster. You could install a power brake boster to reduce pedal effort, but do not expect it to reduce braking distance at all. One thing that definitely will not help braking is to screw up the front to rear brake force bias. Installing larger bore slave cylinders on the front will only make the front tires lock up early before rear tires have developed full force, which would result in longer stopping distance. Installing larger bore slave cylinders on the rear only will make the rear tires lock up before the front ones have developed full force, also making longer stopping distance. Installing larger bore slave cylinders all around can reduce pedal force, similar to installing a power booster, but also makes for longer pedal travel. You can get similar results by sleeving the master cylinder to smaller bore size. None of that wil increase grip of tires on road or reduce stopping distance. Disc brakes can reduce brake fade (which most people will never encounter unless racing). By the nature of all around good brakes, disc brakes cannot be any more powerful than the drum brakes, as that would screw up front to rear biase and increase stopping distance. The factory got it pretty close to right from the beginning, not from any magic, more from decades of practical experience, so that's kind of hard to beat. Barney At 04:06 PM 6/24/2021, Thomas Gunderson wrote: >How can I improve the standard brakes? >Tom Gunderson 1957 MGA 1500 rst >.... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgbobh at gmail.com Thu Jun 24 16:05:21 2021 From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad) Date: Thu, 24 Jun 2021 18:05:21 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Brake shoes In-Reply-To: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> References: <188C665F-16B6-4910-937F-EED06C3AD091@comporium.net> Message-ID: <4240849A-6944-45C6-973D-72576676797A@gmail.com> Tom, MGA brakes are pretty darn good. They will stop the wheels, and quickly. You should be able to lock up all four brakes (carefully) at any speed on any road surface. While it is possible to overheat them (fade), it?s not something you are likely to do in everyday driving. If you want to feel fade, stop hard from 60 mph, accelerate to 60 again and stop hard again, several times. You will feel some loss of braking g-forces on the third or fourth stop, but that doesn?t happen in normal driving. I would suggest going over them completely, replacing all three rubber hoses, flushing with new fluid, filling and bleeding. Have a look at the shoes and their adjusters. Believe it or not, I had a TD in my garage recently that had one front brake set up with two leading shoes, as built, and one set up with two trailing shoes, as bodged by the mechanic who replaced the brakes. You didn?t think that could be done.....It can be..... Further, he had turned up the nuts on the hand-brake lever. Handbrake worked wonderfully well, locking up the rear wheels with two clicks, but the service brake was doing nothing. MGA brakes were good when new, and should be just as good these days. Bob > On Jun 24, 2021, at 4:06 PM, Thomas Gunderson wrote: > > How can I improve the standard brakes? > Tom Gunderson 1957 MGA 1500 rst > > Sent from my iPhone X > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Mon Jun 28 12:51:32 2021 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 20:51:32 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> Message-ID: <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! Not me! Cheers, Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three seventies Puch mopeds Van: Mgs Namens dave Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 Aan: 'mglist' Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him rebuild one for you. it will last. http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for that other brand. Not for us. From: Mgs > On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM To: Osborne, Paul > Cc: mglist > Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included at an acceptable selling price. One is so often disappointed. Bob On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul > wrote: Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t we just get good part. Paul Paul Osborne Department of Electrical and Computer Eng University of Rochester 201 Hopeman Building RC Rochester NY 14627 585-275-5226 On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase > wrote: Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! Dan D '76B, '65B Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 > wrote: I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? ----- Original Message ----- Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! 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URL: From mgbobh at gmail.com Mon Jun 28 16:20:08 2021 From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad) Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2021 18:20:08 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> Message-ID: He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is you. Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. Nice boats, fast and fun. Bob > On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, wrote: > > Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! > Not me! > > Cheers, > Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three seventies Puch mopeds > > Van: Mgs Namens dave > Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 > Aan: 'mglist' > Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump > > According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him rebuild one for you. it will last. > > http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ > > Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for that other brand. Not for us. > > From: Mgs On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM > To: Osborne, Paul > Cc: mglist > Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump > > One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included at an acceptable selling price. > One is so often disappointed. > Bob > > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul wrote: > > Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t we just get good part. > > Paul > > > Paul Osborne > Department of Electrical and Computer Eng > University of Rochester > 201 Hopeman Building RC > Rochester NY 14627 > > 585-275-5226 > > > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! > > Dan D > '76B, '65B > Central NJ USA > http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 wrote: > I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! > Mike MacLean > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= > > Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > > Virusvrij. www.avast.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrob at bell.net Tue Jun 29 09:38:10 2021 From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:38:10 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> Message-ID: I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a season.? It was offered to me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition I took his daughter as second person. ? She was a scorcher and I had no qualms having her as my partner. ?? The sails where made by the bloke's wife and were marginally better than wet toast. I was awarded a cup by the club for being last every race. The daughter and? I became firm friends and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an "Iona".?? Oh, for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those days! Barrie On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: > ? ? He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is > you. > ? ? Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. > ?Nice boats, fast and fun. > Bob > > > On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, > > wrote: > >> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! >> >> Not me! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his >> three seventies Puch mopeds >> >> *Van:* Mgs > > *Namens *dave >> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 >> *Aan:* 'mglist' > >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >> >> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the >> water pumps these days are crap.? If you want real quality, have him >> rebuild one for you.? it will last. >> >> http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ >> >> Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump >> for that other brand.? Not for us. >> >> *From:*Mgs > > *On Behalf Of *Robert's New iPad >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM >> *To:* Osborne, Paul > > >> *Cc:* mglist > >> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >> >> ? ? ?One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs >> in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality >> could be built included at an acceptable selling price. >> >> ? ? ?One is so often disappointed. >> >> Bob >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul > > wrote: >> >> Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a >> quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! >> ?Part. ? ?Why can?t we just get good part. >> >> Paul >> >> Paul Osborne >> Department of Electrical and?Computer Eng >> University of Rochester >> 201 Hopeman Building RC >> Rochester NY 14627 >> >> ?585-275-5226 >> >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase >> > wrote: >> >> Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! >> >> Dan D >> >> '76B, '65B >> >> Central NJ USA >> >> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 >> > > wrote: >> >> I would never expect it to be.? How much stuff like this >> is made in England these days, or America for that matter? >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT >> from Moss.? Made in England, NOT! >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= >> >> >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= >> >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >> >> >> >> >> Virusvrij. www.avast.com >> >> >> >> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Tue Jun 29 22:32:31 2021 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 21:32:31 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> Message-ID: If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball national championships. Simon P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson wrote: > I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a season. It > was offered to me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition > I took his daughter as second person. She was a scorcher and I had no > qualms having her as my partner. The sails where made by the bloke's > wife and were marginally better than wet toast. I was awarded a cup by > the club for being last every race. The daughter and I became firm friends > and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet > School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an > "Iona". Oh, for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those > days! > > Barrie > > On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: > > He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is you. > Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. Nice > boats, fast and fun. > Bob > > > On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, < > h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote: > > Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! > > Not me! > > > > Cheers, > > Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three > seventies Puch mopeds > > > > *Van:* Mgs *Namens *dave > *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 > *Aan:* 'mglist' > *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump > > > > According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water > pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him rebuild one > for you. it will last. > > > > http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ > > > > Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for > that other brand. Not for us. > > > > *From:* Mgs *On Behalf Of *Robert's New iPad > *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM > *To:* Osborne, Paul > *Cc:* mglist > *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump > > > > One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a > certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be > built included at an acceptable selling price. > > One is so often disappointed. > > Bob > > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul wrote: > > Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality > not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t > we just get good part. > > > > Paul > > > > > > Paul Osborne > Department of Electrical and Computer Eng > University of Rochester > 201 Hopeman Building RC > Rochester NY 14627 > > 585-275-5226 > > > > > > > > On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > > > Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! > > > > Dan D > > '76B, '65B > > Central NJ USA > > http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ > > > > > > > On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 > wrote: > > I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in > England these days, or America for that matter? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in > England, NOT! > > Mike MacLean > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs > > http://autox.team.net/archive > > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= > > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= > > Unsubscribe: > https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > > > > Virusvrij. > www.avast.com > > <#m_5285056972973615544_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > > > _______________________________________________ > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mgbobh at gmail.com Wed Jun 30 05:13:43 2021 From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 07:13:43 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com> Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail. I tried, but failed, to get a class established in CT. When I taught sailing, back then, my encouragement to the non-winners was that the race winners rarely learned much, but that those behind had many examples of better sailing. Mandatory MG content: My TD towed a Penguin dinghy on a trailer for short distances, and an MGB towed a Laser dinghy many miles. I had to look up the VJ dinghy. Aussies sail harder than we do. That is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks to be a hoot. Bob > On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews wrote: > > If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball national championships. > > Simon > P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. > >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson wrote: >> I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a season. It was offered to me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition I took his daughter as second person. She was a scorcher and I had no qualms having her as my partner. The sails where made by the bloke's wife and were marginally better than wet toast. I was awarded a cup by the club for being last every race. The daughter and I became firm friends and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an "Iona". Oh, for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those days! >> >> Barrie >> >>> On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: >>> He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is you. >>> Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. Nice boats, fast and fun. >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, wrote: >>> >>>> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! >>>> >>>> Not me! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three seventies Puch mopeds >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Van: Mgs Namens dave >>>> Verzonden: donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 >>>> Aan: 'mglist' >>>> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the water pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him rebuild one for you. it will last. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for that other brand. Not for us. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Mgs On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad >>>> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM >>>> To: Osborne, Paul >>>> Cc: mglist >>>> Subject: Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be built included at an acceptable selling price. >>>> >>>> One is so often disappointed. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul wrote: >>>> >>>> Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t we just get good part. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Paul Osborne >>>> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng >>>> University of Rochester >>>> 201 Hopeman Building RC >>>> Rochester NY 14627 >>>> >>>> 585-275-5226 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dan D >>>> >>>> '76B, '65B >>>> >>>> Central NJ USA >>>> >>>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 wrote: >>>> >>>> I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in England these days, or America for that matter? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in England, NOT! >>>> >>>> Mike MacLean >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> Virusvrij. www.avast.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrob at bell.net Wed Jun 30 12:17:03 2021 From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 14:17:03 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> <01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com> Message-ID: Hello folks, I used to race an Australian Sydney Habour Skiff - now there's a boat to stress you out !!!?? No stays to hold the mast up!?? So drop in wind could be wildly exciting to say nothing of waves washing over the gunnels.? With a crew of 5 one was doing nothing else but bailing. Cheers Barrie On 6/30/2021 7:13 AM, Robert's New iPad wrote: > ? ?Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail. ?I tried, but failed, to get > a class established in CT. > ? ?When I taught sailing, back then, my encouragement to the > non-winners was that the race winners rarely learned much, but that > those behind had many examples of better sailing. > ? ?Mandatory MG content: ?My TD towed a Penguin dinghy on a trailer > for short distances, and an MGB towed a Laser dinghy many miles. > ? ?I had to look up the VJ dinghy. ? Aussies sail harder than we do. > That is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks to be a hoot. > Bob > > On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews > > wrote: > >> If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball >> national championships. >> >> Simon >> P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. >> >> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson > > wrote: >> >> I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a >> season.? It was offered to me by the chap who built it, and >> subjected to the condition I took his daughter as second person. >> ? She was a scorcher and I had no qualms having her as my >> partner. ?? The sails where made by the bloke's wife and were >> marginally better than wet toast. ? I was awarded a cup by the >> club for being last every race. The daughter and? I became firm >> friends and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers >> Wells Ballet School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying >> Dutchman" but an "Iona".?? Oh, for submission endorsement...I was >> driving an MG TD in those days! >> >> Barrie >> >> On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: >>> ? ? He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying >>> Dutchman is you. >>> ? ? Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying >>> Dutchman.? Nice boats, fast and fun. >>> Bob >>> >>> >>> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, >> > >> > wrote: >>> >>>> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! >>>> >>>> Not me! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of >>>> his three seventies Puch mopeds >>>> >>>> *Van:* Mgs >>> > *Namens *dave >>>> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 >>>> *Aan:* 'mglist' > >>>> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >>>> >>>> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump >>>> expert, the water pumps these days are crap.? If you want real >>>> quality, have him rebuild one for you.? it will last. >>>> >>>> http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water >>>> pump for that other brand. Not for us. >>>> >>>> *From:*Mgs >>> > *On Behalf Of *Robert's >>>> New iPad >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM >>>> *To:* Osborne, Paul >>> > >>>> *Cc:* mglist > >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >>>> >>>> ?One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production >>>> costs in a certain eastern nation would be so low that >>>> additional quality could be built included at an acceptable >>>> selling price. >>>> >>>> ?One is so often disappointed. >>>> >>>> Bob >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I >>>> received a quality not have ing to return it 3 times to get >>>> a good one!!!? Part. ? ?Why can?t we just get good part. >>>> >>>> Paul >>>> >>>> Paul Osborne >>>> Department of Electrical and?Computer Eng >>>> University of Rochester >>>> 201 Hopeman Building RC >>>> Rochester NY 14627 >>>> >>>> ? ?585-275-5226 >>>> >>>> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase >>>> > >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! >>>> >>>> Dan D >>>> >>>> '76B, '65B >>>> >>>> Central NJ USA >>>> >>>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 >>>> >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like >>>> this is made in England these days, or America for >>>> that matter? >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> >>>> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB >>>> GT from Moss.? Made in England, NOT! >>>> >>>> Mike MacLean >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= >>>> >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Virusvrij. www.avast.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> <#m_5285056972973615544_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >>>> >>>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/archive >>>> >>>> Unsubscribe: >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >>>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive:http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe:http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation? $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation ?$12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Wed Jun 30 21:37:40 2021 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Wed, 30 Jun 2021 20:37:40 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump In-Reply-To: <01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com> References: <9F9B4070439D4295AFBE2D4B308F81C0@paul> <0AD1EE78-5C48-4308-BE82-20701CEDCF7E@gmail.com> <002101d768fc$278b0af0$76a120d0$@ranteer.com> <00a301d76c4e$9d197860$d74c6920$@planet.nl> <01017FF5-AFA2-4662-B46C-C6DE8B7573CC@gmail.com> Message-ID: For my mandatory MG content: I used to tow my boat (a Laser at the time, but perhaps also the Fireball) behind an MG Metro. Simon On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 4:13 AM Robert's New iPad wrote: > Fireballs are hot boats, fun to sail. I tried, but failed, to get a > class established in CT. > When I taught sailing, back then, my encouragement to the non-winners > was that the race winners rarely learned much, but that those behind had > many examples of better sailing. > Mandatory MG content: My TD towed a Penguin dinghy on a trailer for > short distances, and an MGB towed a Laser dinghy many miles. > I had to look up the VJ dinghy. Aussies sail harder than we do. That > is a fast boat, large sail plan, looks to be a hoot. > Bob > > On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:32 AM, Simon Matthews > wrote: > > If we are talking racing dinghies, I once came 6th in the US Fireball > national championships. > > Simon > P.S. There were 7 boats in the competition. > > On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 8:39 AM Barrie Robinson wrote: > >> I raced a home built VJ, Australia's two person dingy, for a season. It >> was offered to me by the chap who built it, and subjected to the condition >> I took his daughter as second person. She was a scorcher and I had no >> qualms having her as my partner. The sails where made by the bloke's >> wife and were marginally better than wet toast. I was awarded a cup by >> the club for being last every race. The daughter and I became firm friends >> and I visited her many times when she went to the Sadlers Wells Ballet >> School UK - she was a ballerina....... Not a "Flying Dutchman" but an >> "Iona". Oh, for submission endorsement...I was driving an MG TD in those >> days! >> >> Barrie >> >> On 6/28/2021 6:20 PM, Robert's New iPad wrote: >> >> He is in USA, though we would like to think the Flying Dutchman is >> you. >> Years ago, I sailed a two-person dinghy named Flying Dutchman. Nice >> boats, fast and fun. >> Bob >> >> >> On Jun 28, 2021, at 2:51 PM, < >> h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote: >> >> Now, I wonder who this Flying Dutchman is! >> >> Not me! >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> Hans - mostly on wired wheels = 71 BGT, his race bike or one of his three >> seventies Puch mopeds >> >> >> >> *Van:* Mgs *Namens *dave >> *Verzonden:* donderdag 24 juni 2021 15:24 >> *Aan:* 'mglist' >> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >> >> >> >> According to The Flying Dutchman, self styled water pump expert, the >> water pumps these days are crap. If you want real quality, have him >> rebuild one for you. it will last. >> >> >> >> http://water-pump-rebuilders.com/ >> >> >> >> Sadly, Racestorations in England makes a billet aluminum water pump for >> that other brand. Not for us. >> >> >> >> *From:* Mgs *On Behalf Of *Robert's New iPad >> *Sent:* Thursday, June 24, 2021 8:01 AM >> *To:* Osborne, Paul >> *Cc:* mglist >> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] [EXT] Water Pump >> >> >> >> One imagines, seemingly foolishly, that the low production costs in >> a certain eastern nation would be so low that additional quality could be >> built included at an acceptable selling price. >> >> One is so often disappointed. >> >> Bob >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 8:52 AM, Osborne, Paul >> wrote: >> >> Not to sure if I would complain about the price if I received a quality >> not have ing to return it 3 times to get a good one!!! Part. Why can?t >> we just get good part. >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> Paul Osborne >> Department of Electrical and Computer Eng >> University of Rochester >> 201 Hopeman Building RC >> Rochester NY 14627 >> >> 585-275-5226 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 24, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Dan DiBiase wrote: >> >> >> >> Right. And if they were we'd be b*tching about the price! >> >> >> >> Dan D >> >> '76B, '65B >> >> Central NJ USA >> >> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 3:51 AM PaulHunt73 >> wrote: >> >> I would never expect it to be. How much stuff like this is made in >> England these days, or America for that matter? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> Just received my new water pump for my 1969 MGB GT from Moss. Made in >> England, NOT! >> >> Mike MacLean >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs >> >> http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_donate.html&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=VOPdBrK2EdqZ11AZjidjZHjJXymJh21PH6voQBCqB5o&e= >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.team.net_pipermail_mgs&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=uwl5WBCDFsRC52yFp81S20xCdWkcb2wsRDCfTicuJYs&e= >> >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_archive&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=PGULjiKE8xIq_LvpNzVVGbOp3T0aPHYSnAde1KB-R08&e= >> >> Unsubscribe: >> https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__autox.team.net_mailman_options_mgs_paul-40ece.rochester.edu&d=DwICAg&c=kbmfwr1Yojg42sGEpaQh5ofMHBeTl9EI2eaqQZhHbOU&r=j_uK0-rtrtcKZ8O0aGq-Y5ZUDfHjCD_Cv57WMn_czag&m=IVPb0-fztlbFmyWsX0zuAnCpdK3_rxg9OD_QguY6CeQ&s=tNhIm4DphtaDE9jGEGMUOQUUnAiSwxVIFTSDJ67lKp0&e= >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >> >> >> >> Virusvrij. >> www.avast.com >> >> <#m_-9019097290693163690_m_5285056972973615544_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> >> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >> >> Unsubscribe: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com >> > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbobh at gmail.com > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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