From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Oct  1 03:07:14 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2020 11:07:14 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure
In-Reply-To: <06c1129f-a144-bcaa-ee07-6d76185a7cc5@ktc.com>
References: <008701d6927c$b50e1f90$1f2a5eb0$@planet.nl>
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Hi Charley,

I'll check this out. Instead of the pump I can connect a lamp, in order to verify the circuit.
I'll check out the ground joint in the trunk. Point is, that other electrical consumers in the rear of the car work well. 
Points are ordered and will be installed. The current ones are from 1971 I suppose. Anyway I never replaced these and I bought the car in 1990.
Update will follow!

Cheers,
Hans


-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Charley Robinson <ccrobins at ktc.com> 
Verzonden: woensdag 30 september 2020 17:47
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
CC: MG Digest <mgs at autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Fuel pump failure

Hans,

The ohmmeter doesn't draw enough current through the ground connection to be a reliable indication of the ground circuit's resistance.  All the rear end grounds are connected to one lug in the trunk.  The lug is connected to the body by one of the license plate mount retaining bolts.  It would be a good idea to clean that connection periodically. I do.

CR



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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Mon Oct  5 16:56:00 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 2020 22:56:00 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Car Covers
References: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846@mail.yahoo.com>

A few months back I bought a car cover from Carcovers.com for my GT that sits in the driveway.? In a few months the car cover material is disintegrating.? Here is a picture of what my car looks like when I remove the cover.? I need to wash the car every time I uncover it.? Anyone have a recommendation for a decent cover?Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT1960 Bugeye1956 BN2 LeMans




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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Oct  6 01:35:20 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 08:35:20 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Car Covers
References: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <E6AD7EE164CD4FA4A5BE10E922CB2CB0@paul>

Is it a 'waterproof' cover?  If so you could put a thin cotton cover on first to reduce the problem, but with a GT I'd question why one is needed.  I had my V8 under a borrowed 'breathable' cover for a while but it just trapped dampness after everything else had dried up, it would take much much longer to dry out underneath.  I wouldn't even use one for a roadster, the fully waterproof cockpit cover I have is better.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  A few months back I bought a car cover from Carcovers.com for my GT that sits in the driveway.  In a few months the car cover material is disintegrating.  Here is a picture of what my car looks like when I remove the cover.  I need to wash the car every time I uncover it.  Anyone have a recommendation for a decent cover?
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From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Tue Oct  6 05:09:53 2020
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:09:53 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] [EXT]   Car Covers
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Mike, 

First, which cover did you purchase? It looks like it the coating is coming apart. I would call the Carcovers. 

paul



Paul Osborne
Paul's Canvas
7379 E Main St 
Lima NY 14485
585-255-0531




From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  6 11:34:49 2020
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 17:34:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Car Covers
In-Reply-To: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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 I don't park my car outside, but I have bought covers from California Car Covers.? They have a number of different covers, so you can select the model which best suits your situation.? I'm sure they have one for outdoor use.? If you mark where they go, they will even put pockets in the cover to go over any fender or door mirrors.? I've probably owned 7 or 8 of them, mostly for British Sports Cars and also Corvettes.? I've never been disappointed.
Jack

    On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:45:21 PM EDT, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:  
 
 A few months back I bought a car cover from Carcovers.com for my GT that sits in the driveway.? In a few months the car cover material is disintegrating.? Here is a picture of what my car looks like when I remove the cover.? I need to wash the car every time I uncover it.? Anyone have a recommendation for a decent cover?Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT1960 Bugeye1956 BN2 LeMans




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From mvheim at sonic.net  Tue Oct  6 12:05:47 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 11:05:47 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Car Covers
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References: <1631474822.2310585.1601938560846.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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I have never had a cover deteriorate that fast. But they will eventually break down in sunlight. Also, the cotton covers will collect dust which slowly works its way through the weave onto your car. So even if the cover isn?t creating powder, the car still will get dusty.

They make silver reflective covers that are more sun resistant than the soft cotton ones, and which don?t let dust settle through. Regardless, you will be surprised how dirty the car looks when you take the cover off.

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> On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> I don't park my car outside, but I have bought covers from California Car Covers.  They have a number of different covers, so you can select the model which best suits your situation.  I'm sure they have one for outdoor use.  If you mark where they go, they will even put pockets in the cover to go over any fender or door mirrors.  I've probably owned 7 or 8 of them, mostly for British Sports Cars and also Corvettes.  I've never been disappointed.
> 
> Jack
> 
> On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:45:21 PM EDT, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> A few months back I bought a car cover from Carcovers.com for my GT that sits in the driveway.  In a few months the car cover material is disintegrating.  Here is a picture of what my car looks like when I remove the cover.  I need to wash the car every time I uncover it.  Anyone have a recommendation for a decent cover?
> Mike MacLean
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> 1960 Bugeye
> 1956 BN2 LeMans
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From dave at ranteer.com  Tue Oct  6 14:16:43 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 15:16:43 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
Message-ID: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>

I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I'm pretty sure I don't want
to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.

 

And reason to keep it?

 

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From ccrobins at ktc.com  Tue Oct  6 15:09:36 2020
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2020 16:09:36 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Car Covers
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I've never had a car cover that kept the dust off.

CR

From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Wed Oct  7 01:25:23 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 08:25:23 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
References: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>

"If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long enough"

If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then fair enough.


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  I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I'm pretty sure I don't want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 05:39:43 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 07:39:43 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
In-Reply-To: <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>
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LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my
'76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been
holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple
of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted
me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I
did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to
sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting
tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I
sold him the catcon!

Dan D
'76B (in shop), '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:55 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
> enough"
>
> If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then
> fair enough.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t
> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Oct  7 06:54:40 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 07:54:40 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+kVUQL98qMq7R49=mMgvvzspCMoOCChRfugA-Bk=ERATw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>
 <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>
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Here is another catcon story:

 

Years ago I had an 85 Saab.  The cat had gone and needed to be replaced.  I went to a junkyard and asked if they had one.  He told me they were not allowed to sell used cats but he could sell me a piece of exhaust pipe.  Confused, I followed him out to the yard where he retrieved part of a Saab exhaust pipe, with the cat still attached.  The receipt said exhaust pipe.

 

From: Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:40 AM
To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
Cc: dave <dave at ranteer.com>; mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red

 

LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my '76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I sold him the catcon!

 

Dan D

'76B (in shop), '65B

Central NJ USA


http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

 

 

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"If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long enough"

 

If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then fair enough.

 

 

----- Original Message ----- 

 

I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.

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From mogrits at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 21:19:24 2020
From: mogrits at gmail.com (Mogrits)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 23:19:24 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 161, Issue 4
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Subject was Threadlocker...

A couple years ago I needed a gas tank for a 1988 Jaguar XJ6 or XJ40
depending on which side of the pond you are on. I found one in a "you pick
it" scrap yard but they are required by law to poke holes in them and not
allowed to resell a gas tank. I was able to buy the tank by purchasing the
"fuel filler neck and gas cap". The receipt did not say the tank was
attached. It was murder getting the tank out of that car, and torture
putting the tank back into my car. But I got it.

As to thread locker- none of them are permanent so keep the red and buy
another tube of the blue.

Warren

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> I have never had a cover deteriorate that fast. But they will eventually
> break down in sunlight. Also, the cotton covers will collect dust which
> slowly works its way through the weave onto your car. So even if the cover
> isn?t creating powder, the car still will get dusty.
>
> They make silver reflective covers that are more sun resistant than the
> soft cotton ones, and which don?t let dust settle through. Regardless, you
> will be surprised how dirty the car looks when you take the cover off.
>
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim at sonic.net
>
>
>
> > On Oct 6, 2020, at 10:34 AM, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I don't park my car outside, but I have bought covers from California
> Car Covers.  They have a number of different covers, so you can select the
> model which best suits your situation.  I'm sure they have one for outdoor
> use.  If you mark where they go, they will even put pockets in the cover to
> go over any fender or door mirrors.  I've probably owned 7 or 8 of them,
> mostly for British Sports Cars and also Corvettes.  I've never been
> disappointed.
> >
> > Jack
> >
> > On Monday, October 5, 2020, 10:45:21 PM EDT, Michael MacLean <
> rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > A few months back I bought a car cover from Carcovers.com for my GT that
> sits in the driveway.  In a few months the car cover material is
> disintegrating.  Here is a picture of what my car looks like when I remove
> the cover.  I need to wash the car every time I uncover it.  Anyone have a
> recommendation for a decent cover?
> > Mike MacLean
> > 1969 MGB GT
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> > 1956 BN2 LeMans
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> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I'm pretty sure I don't want
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> Message-ID: <f0d4a9c9-c506-cc97-1b24-c7aba55764c6 at ktc.com>
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> I've never had a car cover that kept the dust off.
>
> CR
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 08:25:23 +0100
> From: "PaulHunt73" <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> To: "dave" <dave at ranteer.com>,  <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
> Message-ID: <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E at paul>
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> "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
> enough"
>
> If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then
> fair enough.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>   I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I'm pretty sure I don't
> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
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> From: Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com>
> To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> Cc: dave <dave at ranteer.com>, mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
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> LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my
> '76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been
> holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple
> of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted
> me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I
> did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to
> sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting
> tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I
> sold him the catcon!
>
> Dan D
> '76B (in shop), '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:55 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
> > "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
> > enough"
> >
> > If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff
> then
> > fair enough.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t
> > want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
> >
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> From: "dave" <dave at ranteer.com>
> To: "'mglist'" <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
> Message-ID: <006c01d69ca9$05b06260$11112720$@ranteer.com>
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> Here is another catcon story:
>
>
>
> Years ago I had an 85 Saab.  The cat had gone and needed to be replaced.
> I went to a junkyard and asked if they had one.  He told me they were not
> allowed to sell used cats but he could sell me a piece of exhaust pipe.
> Confused, I followed him out to the yard where he retrieved part of a Saab
> exhaust pipe, with the cat still attached.  The receipt said exhaust pipe.
>
>
>
> From: Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:40 AM
> To: PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> Cc: dave <dave at ranteer.com>; mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
>
>
>
> LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my
> '76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been
> holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple
> of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted
> me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I
> did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to
> sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting
> tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I
> sold him the catcon!
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B (in shop), '65B
>
> Central NJ USA
>
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:55 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com
> <mailto:paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> > wrote:
>
> "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
> enough"
>
>
>
> If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then
> fair enough.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t
> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
>
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Wed Oct  7 23:04:49 2020
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2020 22:04:49 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
In-Reply-To: <006c01d69ca9$05b06260$11112720$@ranteer.com>
References: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>
 <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>
 <CABxEc+kVUQL98qMq7R49=mMgvvzspCMoOCChRfugA-Bk=ERATw@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABXhz8-uok+mLMV+tB4=oK5P-sK2HL0T_5OcG9Sd7_X8Puyetg@mail.gmail.com>

cats contain precious metals. some recyclers buy them.

On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 5:56 AM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> Here is another catcon story:
>
>
>
> Years ago I had an 85 Saab.  The cat had gone and needed to be replaced.
> I went to a junkyard and asked if they had one.  He told me they were not
> allowed to sell used cats but he could sell me a piece of exhaust pipe.
> Confused, I followed him out to the yard where he retrieved part of a Saab
> exhaust pipe, with the cat still attached.  The receipt said exhaust pipe.
>
>
>
> *From:* Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:40 AM
> *To:* PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> *Cc:* dave <dave at ranteer.com>; mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
>
>
>
> LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my
> '76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been
> holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple
> of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted
> me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I
> did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to
> sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting
> tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I
> sold him the catcon!
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B (in shop), '65B
>
> Central NJ USA
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:55 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
> "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
> enough"
>
>
>
> If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff then
> fair enough.
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>
> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t
> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Thu Oct  8 01:27:15 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 08:27:15 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
References: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>
 <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>
 <CABxEc+kVUQL98qMq7R49=mMgvvzspCMoOCChRfugA-Bk=ERATw@mail.gmail.com>
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They are mugs if they don't - platinum and all sorts.  Considered so valuable over here that there is a 'second wave' (if I can use that term, a six-fold increase over last year) of thefts from parked cars, similar to a spate a few years ago.  The popularity of 'SUVs' i.e. jacked up saloons makes it even easier.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  cats contain precious metals. some recyclers buy them.
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct  8 05:55:54 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 2020 07:55:54 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] threadlocker red
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz8-uok+mLMV+tB4=oK5P-sK2HL0T_5OcG9Sd7_X8Puyetg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000501d69c1d$9c417b10$d4c47130$@ranteer.com>
 <C6FF4FA093BE439D95F7C6F8EEC1410E@paul>
 <CABxEc+kVUQL98qMq7R49=mMgvvzspCMoOCChRfugA-Bk=ERATw@mail.gmail.com>
 <006c01d69ca9$05b06260$11112720$@ranteer.com>
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True - but I understand the amount in one of them (especially a small one
like the cat for a B - is so small that it doesn't really make it worth it
to recycle them unless you have a LOT of them. Anyway, mine will be one
less metal item in the landfill (at least from me!) so I am happy.

Dan D
'76B (in shop)
'65B (re-re-re-restarting restore)
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Oct 8, 2020 at 1:05 AM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> cats contain precious metals. some recyclers buy them.
>
> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020, 5:56 AM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is another catcon story:
>>
>>
>>
>> Years ago I had an 85 Saab.  The cat had gone and needed to be replaced.
>> I went to a junkyard and asked if they had one.  He told me they were not
>> allowed to sell used cats but he could sell me a piece of exhaust pipe.
>> Confused, I followed him out to the yard where he retrieved part of a Saab
>> exhaust pipe, with the cat still attached.  The receipt said exhaust pipe.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 7, 2020 6:40 AM
>> *To:* PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
>> *Cc:* dave <dave at ranteer.com>; mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] threadlocker red
>>
>>
>>
>> LOL, this is true! I've been working on cleaning up the garage since my
>> '76B has been in the shop, and came across some parts for it that I'd been
>> holding on to for some reason, for years. Yesterday, I advertised a couple
>> of Rostyles, an OEM jack, an oil pan and an exhaust downpipe. Guy contacted
>> me about the down pipe and asked whether I had the catalytic converter. I
>> did, but didn't advertise it as I understand that you're not supposed to
>> sell used cats. It was actually in a garbage bag in preparation for getting
>> tossed with the other trash Friday morning. He didn't want the pipe but I
>> sold him the catcon!
>>
>>
>>
>> Dan D
>>
>> '76B (in shop), '65B
>>
>> Central NJ USA
>>
>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 7, 2020 at 3:55 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> "If you haven't found a use for something yet you haven't kept it long
>> enough"
>>
>>
>>
>> If you can exchange it i.e. not have to pay again for the right stuff
>> then fair enough.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>
>>
>> I accidentally bought some red thread locker.  I?m pretty sure I don?t
>> want to use it and I plan on exchanging it for some blue.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>>
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive
>>
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>>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Fri Oct  9 08:53:03 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 09:53:03 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] water leak
Message-ID: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>

I'm thinking the water pump has failed?  Here is where water is dripping
out.

 

Short history - car was running and driving; we took the engine out to work
on the transmission; life got in the way; a few years later we put them all
back in (and, peripherally, there was a problem with the clutch fork so we
had to pull it again!!!!  looking for a little sympathy . . .)  got it back
in, started it up, and getting a steady stream of drips right here.  and
there is a bit of a racket coming from the front of the engine.

 

Am thinking the seals in the pump dried out.

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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Fri Oct  9 09:34:38 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 11:34:38 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] water leak
In-Reply-To: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+ka7z=C9qRvHPVH6rzgvoi9_NtHompY-BsY40SvG-DDfQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like water pump to me.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 10:58 AM dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:

> I?m thinking the water pump has failed?  Here is where water is dripping
> out.
>
>
>
> Short history ? car was running and driving; we took the engine out to
> work on the transmission; life got in the way; a few years later we put
> them all back in (and, peripherally, there was a problem with the clutch
> fork so we had to pull it again!!!!  looking for a little sympathy . . .)
> got it back in, started it up, and getting a steady stream of drips right
> here.  and there is a bit of a racket coming from the front of the engine.
>
>
>
> Am thinking the seals in the pump dried out.
> _______________________________________________
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Fri Oct  9 09:30:57 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 16:30:57 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] water leak
References: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <D6EBF73B5E49476D82C0C964348C6BC4@paul>

Could be the gasket, or a hose etc.  IME when the pump seal fails coolant is flicked off the pulley and round the engine compartment.

But if standing idle with no coolant for some time then yes could be seals.  Take the fan belt off and spin the pump - coolant or noise?  Same with the alt.  The run it without the fan belt and see if the noise is there or not.  Depends on the noise but the fan blade grommets could have perished, does the fan wobble about?
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  I'm thinking the water pump has failed?  Here is where water is dripping out.

   

  Short history - car was running and driving; we took the engine out to work on the transmission; life got in the way; a few years later we put them all back in (and, peripherally, there was a problem with the clutch fork so we had to pull it again!!!!  looking for a little sympathy . . .)  got it back in, started it up, and getting a steady stream of drips right here.  and there is a bit of a racket coming from the front of the engine.

   

  Am thinking the seals in the pump dried out.

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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Fri Oct  9 11:55:43 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 2020 19:55:43 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] water leak
In-Reply-To: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <002a01d69e65$69512760$3bf37620$@planet.nl>

Check the thermostat housing for leaks as well. I had to replace the gasket
last winter.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens dave
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 oktober 2020 16:53
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: [Mgs] water leak

 

I'm thinking the water pump has failed?  Here is where water is dripping
out.

 

Short history - car was running and driving; we took the engine out to work
on the transmission; life got in the way; a few years later we put them all
back in (and, peripherally, there was a problem with the clutch fork so we
had to pull it again!!!!  looking for a little sympathy . . .)  got it back
in, started it up, and getting a steady stream of drips right here.  and
there is a bit of a racket coming from the front of the engine.

 

Am thinking the seals in the pump dried out.



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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Sat Oct 10 06:50:49 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 14:50:49 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] water leak
In-Reply-To: <003101d69e6e$886993e0$993cbba0$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d69e4b$e42a6dd0$ac7f4970$@ranteer.com>
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I hope your thermostat will keep on working correctly.

 

Van: dave <dave at ranteer.com> 
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 oktober 2020 21:01
Aan: h.duinhoven at planet.nl
Onderwerp: RE: [Mgs] water leak

 

Funny you should mention that.  One of the things I wanted to do was flush
the engine.  I tried and tried just short of destroying the housing and
cannot get it off!!!!!!!

 

There is NO way it is leaking!!!

 

From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
<h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > 
Sent: Friday, October 9, 2020 12:56 PM
To: 'dave' <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com> >; mgs at autox.team.net
<mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> 
Subject: RE: [Mgs] water leak

 

Check the thermostat housing for leaks as well. I had to replace the gasket
last winter.

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> >
Namens dave
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 oktober 2020 16:53
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> 
Onderwerp: [Mgs] water leak

 

I'm thinking the water pump has failed?  Here is where water is dripping
out.

 

Short history - car was running and driving; we took the engine out to work
on the transmission; life got in the way; a few years later we put them all
back in (and, peripherally, there was a problem with the clutch fork so we
had to pull it again!!!!  looking for a little sympathy . . .)  got it back
in, started it up, and getting a steady stream of drips right here.  and
there is a bit of a racket coming from the front of the engine.

 

Am thinking the seals in the pump dried out.

 


 
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From lrc at red4est.com  Wed Oct 14 23:04:58 2020
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2020 22:04:58 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Free fire damaged MG parts near Santa Cruz
Message-ID: <84000865-7D28-498B-B174-701A2DE64AA6@red4est.com>

My friend Pete posted this on facebook.  Long story short, he pretty much lost everything in the fire a couple months ago.

TLDR; lots of free stuff, but you?ve got to come get it, and soon.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/britishpartsandneeds/permalink/3471074482930870/

FREE - Near Santa Cruz CA, anything useful - come rescue it.
72 MGBGT and 73 MGB roadster. BGT was under lengthy restoration, while roadster was nearly completed and gorgeous, motor was out on stand before massive wildfire. Roadster has intriguing international spy-ring connection.
30 years of NOS and used parts on destroyed racks and shelves, lots of original bumpers and "new" sheetmetal for GT. Everything badly burned, bent, and melted in fires. Anything identifiable/useful is free for the taking before the lot gets cleared and it all gets scrapped (imminent). Our heavy rainy season begins shortly after Halloween and it's also in dire threat of mud-flows. Cannot ship/store/hold in any way. Contact me via PM for details. Not following any auto groups for a while, until my heart begins to heal.
(Lemons race car has been rescued for miraculous resurrection #4)

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From mvheim at sonic.net  Thu Oct 15 11:23:21 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 10:23:21 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Free fire damaged MG parts near Santa Cruz
In-Reply-To: <84000865-7D28-498B-B174-701A2DE64AA6@red4est.com>
References: <84000865-7D28-498B-B174-701A2DE64AA6@red4est.com>
Message-ID: <865AB0AA-879A-452C-9597-BC7BA76554CF@sonic.net>

Oog, that is crushing. I don't think I could bear to view it. It would seem too ghoulish.

Not sure what could be salvaged other than heavy items like engine blocks and transmissions.

--
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mvheim at sonic.net



> On Oct 14, 2020, at 10:04 PM, Larry Colen <lrc at red4est.com> wrote:
> 
> My friend Pete posted this on facebook.  Long story short, he pretty much lost everything in the fire a couple months ago.
> 
> TLDR; lots of free stuff, but you?ve got to come get it, and soon.
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/britishpartsandneeds/permalink/3471074482930870/
> 
> FREE - Near Santa Cruz CA, anything useful - come rescue it.
> 72 MGBGT and 73 MGB roadster. BGT was under lengthy restoration, while roadster was nearly completed and gorgeous, motor was out on stand before massive wildfire. Roadster has intriguing international spy-ring connection.
> 30 years of NOS and used parts on destroyed racks and shelves, lots of original bumpers and "new" sheetmetal for GT. Everything badly burned, bent, and melted in fires. Anything identifiable/useful is free for the taking before the lot gets cleared and it all gets scrapped (imminent). Our heavy rainy season begins shortly after Halloween and it's also in dire threat of mud-flows. Cannot ship/store/hold in any way. Contact me via PM for details. Not following any auto groups for a while, until my heart begins to heal.
> (Lemons race car has been rescued for miraculous resurrection #4)
> 
> --
> Larry Colen
> lrc at red4est.com
> 
> 
> 
> 


From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Oct 15 12:06:22 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 20:06:22 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
Message-ID: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>

In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.



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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 12:15:33 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 14:15:33 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+kmLj7Y6J7f_GfxH43iA+NX44tpx8n9t-d3Wu852Z0EhQ@mail.gmail.com>

Yikes, 3 kW charging rate.......

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 2:06 PM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:

> In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB
> again.
>
> Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8
> normal MGB?s.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> ?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.
>
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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 15 12:28:50 2020
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 18:28:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>

Interesting!? It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com 

    On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:  
 
 
In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 ?

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 ?

Cheers,

Hans

 ?

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.



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From mvheim at sonic.net  Thu Oct 15 13:01:26 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 12:01:26 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
 <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>

I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems to be a case of life imitating art.

I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.

The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.

This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.

--
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mvheim at sonic.net



> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.
> 
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
> 
> 
> On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:
> 
> 
> In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.
> 
> Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.
> 
>  
> https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html <https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html>
>  
> Cheers,
> 
> Hans
> 
>  
> ?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.
> 
> 

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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Oct 15 13:10:51 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 21:10:51 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
 <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <006301d6a326$e656c7e0$b30457a0$@planet.nl>

It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.

A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to be charged?

 

Cheers, Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Max Heim
Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems to be a case of life imitating art.

 

I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.

 

The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.

 

This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.

 

--

Max Heim

mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net> 

 

 





On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.

 

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> 

 

 

On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote: 

 

 

In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.

 

 



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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 14:07:14 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:07:14 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <006301d6a326$e656c7e0$b30457a0$@planet.nl>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
 <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>
 <006301d6a326$e656c7e0$b30457a0$@planet.nl>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+nmzR7e1tTtrYnnY0_uX+4nNqfNdTu1VyKwUH=3iViQGw@mail.gmail.com>

That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm
actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of
the year. Can't wait....

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:

> It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.
>
> A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been
> depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to be
> charged?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Hans
>
>
>
> *Van:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *Namens *Max Heim
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
> *Aan:* mgs at autox.team.net
> *Onderwerp:* Re: [Mgs] New MGB
>
>
>
> I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems
> to be a case of life imitating art.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was
> self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s.
> He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.
>
>
>
> The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company
> to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology.
> And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the
> struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators,
> and unscrupulous rivals.
>
>
>
> This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20
> years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> mvheim at sonic.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless
> it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.
>
>
>
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB
> again.
>
> Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8
> normal MGB?s.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> ?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 15 14:13:46 2020
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 20:13:46 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+nmzR7e1tTtrYnnY0_uX+4nNqfNdTu1VyKwUH=3iViQGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
 <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>
 <006301d6a326$e656c7e0$b30457a0$@planet.nl>
 <CABxEc+nmzR7e1tTtrYnnY0_uX+4nNqfNdTu1VyKwUH=3iViQGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <933921369.1123189.1602792826963@mail.yahoo.com>

Is there any information on how the batteries of these hold up over time, how much their ability to hold a charge degrades year by year?? And when they reach the end of life, how much it costs to replace the batteries?

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com 

    On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 1:08:06 PM PDT, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of the year. Can't wait....
Dan D'76B, '65BCentral NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

  
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct 15 14:30:59 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 16:30:59 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <933921369.1123189.1602792826963@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
 <1134377194.1086730.1602786530258@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2EC4B809-B52D-415E-9413-0E3ED018FF42@sonic.net>
 <006301d6a326$e656c7e0$b30457a0$@planet.nl>
 <CABxEc+nmzR7e1tTtrYnnY0_uX+4nNqfNdTu1VyKwUH=3iViQGw@mail.gmail.com>
 <933921369.1123189.1602792826963@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+nYDC8hmMR-kWtO+1-A2huPZ0iPPAPBMxoYcknvPwEKdw@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know too much about the Roadster, focused more on the Model 3/Y.
But there is a lot of discussion on battery replacement here -
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/roadster-needs-new-battery.153975/
   as well as range discussions here -
https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/threads/3-0-battery-longevity.86139/

I'd be interested in an electric MGB at the moment, as my
resurrected-after-sitting-5-years-1976-B just died on me a half mile from
home. Just got it back from the shop Saturday and it drove fine the 40
minutes home, plus another 30 minutes after we got home. Was hard to start
today, then my son stalled it and it wouldn't start. Grrrr. I was hoping
not to have to drain the tank (I had about 1/3 tank of old gas sitting in
there, with a few gallons of new high test on top). Guess that will be my
project for the weekend....

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 4:16 PM David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com>
wrote:

> Is there any information on how the batteries of these hold up over time,
> how much their ability to hold a charge degrades year by year?  And when
> they reach the end of life, how much it costs to replace the batteries?
>
>
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 1:08:06 PM PDT, Dan DiBiase <
> dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm
> actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of
> the year. Can't wait....
>
> Dan D
> '76B, '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct 15 19:16:27 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 20:16:27 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
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As long as you don?t claim it?s a zero emission vehicle.  I think its really na?ve not to consider that you are just moving the source of the emissions.

 

I saw an interesting study on the actual emissions of electric vehicles, broken down by geographic region.   And as an extreme, because China uses virtually no emission equipment on their coal burning plants you actually produce a great deal more emissions with an electric vehicle there than gas burning ones.

 

 

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:07 PM
To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
Cc: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of the year. Can't wait....

 

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA


http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

 

 

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote:

It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.

A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to be charged?

 

Cheers, Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> > Namens Max Heim
Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> 
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems to be a case of life imitating art.

 

I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.

 

The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.

 

This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.

 

--

Max Heim

mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net> 

 

 

 

On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.

 

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> 

 

 

On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote: 

 

 

In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.

 

 

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From dave at ranteer.com  Thu Oct 15 19:23:08 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 2020 20:23:08 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
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YUCK.  NO WAY!!!!!

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of h.duinhoven at planet.nl
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 1:06 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB

 

In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.

 

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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Fri Oct 16 01:34:04 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 09:34:04 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
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As science tells: any way energy is converted, there is loss of energy.

So: where does the electricity come from?

Energy plants running on coal, gas, nuclear fuel etc. Except nuclear energy, there is CO2 produced.

Wind energy ? but when there is no wind, this does not work

Solar energy ? works well in the sunny areas, but not during the night, winter and rainy periods

 

Then when the energy is produced, it is transformed to high voltages, in order to be transported over the country.

Transformers and transportation take energy loss.

At the end of the high voltage lines, the energy is distributed and before that the high voltages are transformed to lower voltages. Again this takes loss.

Then your car is being charged: another transformer and a rectifying system is used in order to make DC voltage for the batteries.

Inside the car there also are several losses of energy. The batteries seem to produce quite some heat.

And in summertime the airco takes a lot of energy as well.

 

So at the end looking to a gas powered car, which produces the energy onboard versus electrically powered cars, there is quite some loss of energy.

 

Of course before gas is being put into the tank, lots of energy is lost as well by transportation and the refinery.

 

So this summer I made a lot of miles on my racing bike?

 

 

Cheers,

 

Hans going to assemble the repaired fuel pump back into the GT today.

 

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens dave
Verzonden: vrijdag 16 oktober 2020 03:16
Aan: 'mglist' <mgs at autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

As long as you don?t claim it?s a zero emission vehicle.  I think its really na?ve not to consider that you are just moving the source of the emissions.

 

I saw an interesting study on the actual emissions of electric vehicles, broken down by geographic region.   And as an extreme, because China uses virtually no emission equipment on their coal burning plants you actually produce a great deal more emissions with an electric vehicle there than gas burning ones.

 

 

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> > On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:07 PM
To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> >
Cc: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> >
Subject: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of the year. Can't wait....

 

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA


http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

 

 

On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote:

It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.

A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to be charged?

 

Cheers, Hans

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> > Namens Max Heim
Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
Aan: mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> 
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB

 

I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems to be a case of life imitating art.

 

I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.

 

The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.

 

This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.

 

--

Max Heim

mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net> 

 

 

 

On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> > wrote:

 

Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.

 

David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com <mailto:david_breneman at yahoo.com> 

 

 

On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl <mailto:h.duinhoven at planet.nl> > wrote: 

 

 

In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.

Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.

 

https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html 

 

Cheers,

Hans

 

?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.

 

 

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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Fri Oct 16 03:48:44 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 10:48:44 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
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No matter where electricity comes from it has to be generated, and the equipment doing that is the same for 'renewable' electricity as it is for fossil fuel in that originally raw material has to be dug out of the ground, processed and manufactured, the vast majority of which is done using equipment powered by fossil fuels.  The more sophisticated the generating equipment the more exotic materials are needed which need more raw material to produce the end result, leaving vast spoil heaps and toxic waste.  Volkswagen calculated that from dust to dust, including all recycling, their new all-electric Golf wouldn't show an ecological benefit over their latest fossil fuel version for 17 years.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  As science tells: any way energy is converted, there is loss of energy.

  So: where does the electricity come from?

  Energy plants running on coal, gas, nuclear fuel etc. Except nuclear energy, there is CO2 produced.

  Wind energy ? but when there is no wind, this does not work

  Solar energy ? works well in the sunny areas, but not during the night, winter and rainy periods
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From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com  Fri Oct 16 19:50:10 2020
From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2020 18:50:10 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] New MGB
In-Reply-To: <000001d6a38e$b9834640$2c89d2c0$@planet.nl>
References: <003e01d6a31d$e4489770$acd9c650$@planet.nl>
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>>> So: where does the electricity come from?

Wind, hydro, nuclear.

>>> No matter where electricity comes from it has to be generated, and the equipment doing that is the same for 'renewable' electricity as it is for fossil fuel in that originally raw material has to be dug out of the ground, processed and manufactured, the vast majority of which is done using equipment powered by fossil fuels.

This has been debunked so many times. Yes, fossil fuels are used in
the manufacture of wind turbines, but those same turbines "pay off"
that CO2 debt very quickly and go on to produce decades of clean
electricity.

If you live in any Pacific coast state, driving an EV results in less
total CO2 emissions.

Simon

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 12:34 AM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:
>
> As science tells: any way energy is converted, there is loss of energy.
>
> So: where does the electricity come from?
>
> Energy plants running on coal, gas, nuclear fuel etc. Except nuclear energy, there is CO2 produced.
>
> Wind energy ? but when there is no wind, this does not work
>
> Solar energy ? works well in the sunny areas, but not during the night, winter and rainy periods
>
>
>
> Then when the energy is produced, it is transformed to high voltages, in order to be transported over the country.
>
> Transformers and transportation take energy loss.
>
> At the end of the high voltage lines, the energy is distributed and before that the high voltages are transformed to lower voltages. Again this takes loss.
>
> Then your car is being charged: another transformer and a rectifying system is used in order to make DC voltage for the batteries.
>
> Inside the car there also are several losses of energy. The batteries seem to produce quite some heat.
>
> And in summertime the airco takes a lot of energy as well.
>
>
>
> So at the end looking to a gas powered car, which produces the energy onboard versus electrically powered cars, there is quite some loss of energy.
>
>
>
> Of course before gas is being put into the tank, lots of energy is lost as well by transportation and the refinery.
>
>
>
> So this summer I made a lot of miles on my racing bike?
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
> Hans going to assemble the repaired fuel pump back into the GT today.
>
>
>
>
>
> Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens dave
> Verzonden: vrijdag 16 oktober 2020 03:16
> Aan: 'mglist' <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB
>
>
>
> As long as you don?t claim it?s a zero emission vehicle.  I think its really na?ve not to consider that you are just moving the source of the emissions.
>
>
>
> I saw an interesting study on the actual emissions of electric vehicles, broken down by geographic region.   And as an extreme, because China uses virtually no emission equipment on their coal burning plants you actually produce a great deal more emissions with an electric vehicle there than gas burning ones.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
> Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2020 3:07 PM
> To: Hans Duinhoven <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
> Cc: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] New MGB
>
>
>
> That's surprising as there are plenty running around the US still. I'm actually going to be ordering a Tesla Model Y (the small SUV) at the end of the year. Can't wait....
>
>
>
> Dan D
>
> '76B, '65B
>
> Central NJ USA
>
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 3:13 PM <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:
>
> It is a bit how Tesla started when their car was a Lotus being electric.
>
> A few months ago I read in the news, that such a Tesla finally had been depreciated in our country to zero, as the battery was not possible to be charged?
>
>
>
> Cheers, Hans
>
>
>
> Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Max Heim
> Verzonden: donderdag 15 oktober 2020 21:01
> Aan: mgs at autox.team.net
> Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] New MGB
>
>
>
> I saw this announcement on the MGOC page. What struck me was that it seems to be a case of life imitating art.
>
>
>
> I don?t know if any of you ever heard of a book called ?ZEV-1?. It was self-published by an author here in northern California, back in the 1990s. He used to sell it at British car meets, which is where I acquired a copy.
>
>
>
> The premise of this book is that an inventor/entrepreneur starts a company to build battery electric cars using his proprietary battery technology. And he chooses the MGB as his first model. So the story is about the struggle to build an electric MGB, fighting industry forces, regulators, and unscrupulous rivals.
>
>
>
> This announcement really makes me wonder if these people read this book 20 years ago, or stumbled upon it more recently.
>
>
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
>
> mvheim at sonic.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Oct 15, 2020, at 11:28 AM, David Breneman <david_breneman at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Interesting!  It almost certainly will not be allowed into the US unless it's built on a vintage body tub, and is therefore a modified "classic" car.
>
>
>
> David Breneman david_breneman at yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thursday, October 15, 2020, 11:06:47 AM PDT, <h.duinhoven at planet.nl> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> In the local press was an announcement, that there will be a new built MGB again.
>
> Fully electric. Comes with a ? 90,000 pricetag, where one could buy 8 normal MGB?s.
>
>
>
> https://www.nu.nl/auto/6083327/naast-elektrische-suv-nu-ook-de-oorspronkelijke-mgb-elektrisch-gemaakt.html
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Hans
>
>
>
> ?71 BGT ? repaired the fuel pump today with new points.
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Oct 18 18:55:52 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 19:55:52 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] parts
Message-ID: <004b01d6a5b2$987a1e30$c96e5a90$@ranteer.com>

These were in a car I purchased.

 

Can anyone tell me what the top one is, and what supplier uses these
numbers?

 

The bottom one is a (probably later MGB) pilot bearing/spigot bushing

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From robincamblin at att.net  Sun Oct 18 19:04:25 2020
From: robincamblin at att.net (robincamblin)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:04:25 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] parts
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Victoria British part number,? socket and tommy barSent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: dave <dave at ranteer.com> Date: 10/18/20  7:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] parts These were in a car I purchased.?Can anyone tell me what the top one is, and what supplier uses these numbers??The bottom one is a (probably later MGB) pilot bearing/spigot bushing
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From guinness at stclegal.com  Sun Oct 18 19:22:33 2020
From: guinness at stclegal.com (Robert J. Guinness)
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2020 20:22:33 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] parts
Message-ID: <62abd3cb-aa4a-abe3-3831-fed4624ae7de@stclegal.com>

The 3-796 is an SU needle valve tool.

The 4-712 is a flywheel pilot bushing for an MGA

Victoria British (and others) use this numbering system.

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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Mon Oct 19 14:58:44 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 20:58:44 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Temp Gauge
References: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Anyone know how I can check the accuracy of my 1969 MGB GT temp gauge?? Just a needle and a range, no temp readings.Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT60 Bugeye1956 BN2 Lemans
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Mon Oct 19 15:40:23 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 17:40:23 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Temp Gauge
In-Reply-To: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020@mail.yahoo.com>
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   There are two methods I have used.
   Drive around until the gauge shows whatever normal is for your car, but do this with the rad cap loose so there is no pressure building.  Leave engine running and remove the cap, immersing a kitchen ?candy? thermometer into the liquid.  You will then be able to associate needle position with a known temperature. 
   Drive around and get everything warm, then use an infra-red thermometer, about $30 at Harbour Freight, taking temp of the thermostat housing and radiator top tank.  This will also help you to associate a point on the gauge to the thermometer reading.
  The IR thermometer has additional value, in that you can shoot it all around the radiator front side, checking that temp is equal side-to-side.  Bottom should be a bit lower than top, because the cooled water is moving down, and with this you can see how it happens.
Bob


> On Oct 19, 2020, at 4:58 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
> 
> Anyone know how I can check the accuracy of my 1969 MGB GT temp gauge?  Just a needle and a range, no temp readings.
> Mike MacLean
> 1969 MGB GT
> 60 Bugeye
> 1956 BN2 Lemans
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From schultejim at msn.com  Mon Oct 19 16:56:12 2020
From: schultejim at msn.com (James Schulte)
Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 22:56:12 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Temp Gauge
In-Reply-To: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020.ref@mail.yahoo.com>,
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I use a portable laser gage.
Jim



Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S10e, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone



-------- Original message --------
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
Date: 10/19/20 4:59 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: MGB List <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] Temp Gauge

Anyone know how I can check the accuracy of my 1969 MGB GT temp gauge?  Just a needle and a range, no temp readings.
Mike MacLean
1969 MGB GT
60 Bugeye
1956 BN2 Lemans
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Oct 20 01:29:44 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 20 Oct 2020 08:29:44 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Temp Gauge
References: <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <1487430272.1227264.1603141124020@mail.yahoo.com>
 <5DC9C05D-1F9D-4F1D-B439-E544B7ACE3EF@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <39F3FE8AE1904A76B76618D62D11D8C2@paul>

So called 'laser' devices may well have a small red spot to show where it is pointing, but the measurement area is much wider than that as the sensed area is cone-shaped i.e. it gets wider the further out you go in some case by as much as 2:1.  The smaller the physical object that you want to measure the closer you have to be or it averages cooler areas around it.  Yes I know an engine is pretty big, but it isn't all at the same temperature.  For the thermostat elbow for example it has to be almost touching.

More for running hot than anything else but yes measuring various areas over the surface of the rad will show up problems with flow rate, partially blocked core where the cause is insufficient cooling, or that the engine is producing more than it should.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


     There are two methods I have used.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Oct 21 12:37:27 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:37:27 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] old style water pump
Message-ID: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>

My 56 mga has an old style water pump with the grease zerk.

 

I can't seem to get in there with any of my current tools.

 

Anyone have a tool or instructions to do this?

 

Please don't tell me to replace it; this is a very original car and I'm
trying to keep it as that way as much as possible

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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Oct 21 13:19:55 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 12:19:55 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] old style water pump
In-Reply-To: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>
References: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <D4BADB6E-1923-43E8-91F8-D2298FE8832D@sonic.net>

Are you saying you need a tool for your grease gun to reach the zerk fitting?

Or are you saying you need a tool to remove the zerk fitting and replace it?

You can get a long needle-like tip for your grease gun. I have one. Or you could replace the zerk with a long-necked version that allows access.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB



> On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:37 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
> 
> My 56 mga has an old style water pump with the grease zerk.
>  
> I can?t seem to get in there with any of my current tools.
>  
> Anyone have a tool or instructions to do this?
>  
> Please don?t tell me to replace it; this is a very original car and I?m trying to keep it as that way as much as possible
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 13:30:55 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 15:30:55 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] old style water pump
In-Reply-To: <D4BADB6E-1923-43E8-91F8-D2298FE8832D@sonic.net>
References: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>
 <D4BADB6E-1923-43E8-91F8-D2298FE8832D@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <98B4BA38-0F33-46D3-901E-CA38CB84BE06@gmail.com>

  Max is giving good advice about use of the needle-tip tool for this. One of the U-joints in my MGB is too small to admit even my smallest grease-gun tip to the fitting, so the needle-tip device works a treat.
  Good on you for making efforts to keep the original bits on the car.
Bob


> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net> wrote:
> 
> Are you saying you need a tool for your grease gun to reach the zerk fitting?
> 
> Or are you saying you need a tool to remove the zerk fitting and replace it?
> 
> You can get a long needle-like tip for your grease gun. I have one. Or you could replace the zerk with a long-necked version that allows access.
> 
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:37 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com> wrote:
>> 
>> My 56 mga has an old style water pump with the grease zerk.
>>  
>> I can?t seem to get in there with any of my current tools.
>>  
>> Anyone have a tool or instructions to do this?
>>  
>> Please don?t tell me to replace it; this is a very original car and I?m trying to keep it as that way as much as possible
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Oct 21 14:42:38 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 13:42:38 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] old style water pump
In-Reply-To: <98B4BA38-0F33-46D3-901E-CA38CB84BE06@gmail.com>
References: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>
 <D4BADB6E-1923-43E8-91F8-D2298FE8832D@sonic.net>
 <98B4BA38-0F33-46D3-901E-CA38CB84BE06@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E040986F-B26F-4945-9E5F-86E693D06DBE@sonic.net>

Yeah, that?s what I got it for ? the u-joint.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Robert's New iPad <mgbobh at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>   Max is giving good advice about use of the needle-tip tool for this. One of the U-joints in my MGB is too small to admit even my smallest grease-gun tip to the fitting, so the needle-tip device works a treat.
>   Good on you for making efforts to keep the original bits on the car.
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Oct 21, 2020, at 3:19 PM, Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net>> wrote:
> 
>> Are you saying you need a tool for your grease gun to reach the zerk fitting?
>> 
>> Or are you saying you need a tool to remove the zerk fitting and replace it?
>> 
>> You can get a long needle-like tip for your grease gun. I have one. Or you could replace the zerk with a long-necked version that allows access.
>> 
>> --
>> Max Heim
>> '66 MGB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2020, at 11:37 AM, dave <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My 56 mga has an old style water pump with the grease zerk.
>>>  
>>> I can?t seem to get in there with any of my current tools.
>>>  
>>> Anyone have a tool or instructions to do this?
>>>  
>>> Please don?t tell me to replace it; this is a very original car and I?m trying to keep it as that way as much as possible
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> 
>>> Mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:Mgs at autox.team.net>
>>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html <http://www.team.net/donate.html>
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From barrob at bell.net  Wed Oct 21 15:16:06 2020
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 17:16:06 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration
Message-ID: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>

Hello folks,

I am trying to restore my MGB GT window regulators and any advice would 
be appreciated.?? The fuzzy stuff in the slides on both side of the 
glass is more than sad and obviously needs replacing - but with what??? 
I was considering using that slippy plastic Delrin or something better 
as Delrin does not like water?? There are many options and I will have 
to find a knowledgeable supplier to supply the right stuff and the right 
shape.?? I am assuming the outside runners can be move in and out to 
allow glass to slide up an down !!!????? Not looking forward to this !!! 
/Where can I get new ones/??

Barrie
MGB GT V8 replica!
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Wed Oct 21 17:00:46 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 19:00:46 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration
In-Reply-To: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
References: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
Message-ID: <9D434BEC-E7D2-4A73-A560-ED05558F5063@gmail.com>

   I have heard good things about MacGregor fur-flex and bristle-flex. He is in Ontario, I think.  
    No personal experience, but my GT is approaching the time to replace it all, and I would like to know of your experience. 

> On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrob at bell.net> wrote:
> 
> Hello folks,
> 
> I am trying to restore my MGB GT window regulators and any advice would be appreciated.   The fuzzy stuff in the slides on both side of the glass is more than sad and obviously needs replacing - but with what?   I was considering using that slippy plastic Delrin or something better as Delrin does not like water   There are many options and I will have to find a knowledgeable supplier to supply the right stuff and the right shape.   I am assuming the outside runners can be move in and out to allow glass to slide up an down !!!???   Not looking forward to this !!!   Where can I get new ones??
> 
> Barrie
> MGB GT V8 replica!
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Oct 21 20:11:50 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2020 21:11:50 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration
In-Reply-To: <9D434BEC-E7D2-4A73-A560-ED05558F5063@gmail.com>
References: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
 <9D434BEC-E7D2-4A73-A560-ED05558F5063@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <006c01d6a818$b47d2470$1d776d50$@ranteer.com>

Martin macgregor is a great person and makes really great products.  I have purchased from him several times.  Highly recommended.

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Robert's New iPad
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 6:01 PM
To: Barrie Robinson <barrob at bell.net>
Cc: MGB List <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration

 

   I have heard good things about MacGregor fur-flex and bristle-flex. He is in Ontario, I think.  

    No personal experience, but my GT is approaching the time to replace it all, and I would like to know of your experience. 


On Oct 21, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrob at bell.net <mailto:barrob at bell.net> > wrote:

Hello folks,

I am trying to restore my MGB GT window regulators and any advice would be appreciated.   The fuzzy stuff in the slides on both side of the glass is more than sad and obviously needs replacing - but with what?   I was considering using that slippy plastic Delrin or something better as Delrin does not like water   There are many options and I will have to find a knowledgeable supplier to supply the right stuff and the right shape.   I am assuming the outside runners can be move in and out to allow glass to slide up an down !!!???   Not looking forward to this !!!   Where can I get new ones??

Barrie
MGB GT V8 replica!

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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Thu Oct 22 01:29:26 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:29:26 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration
References: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
Message-ID: <E90F9003677942C5AF7C70D86C4CDE83@paul>

Felt inserts seem to be available from the usual suspects, UK at least.

Yes the rear runners can be moved in and out of engagement with the glass, and having them too close does make the drop-glass stiff.  You can tell if it's the drop-glass and runners that need work or the regulator itself by positioning the glass mid-way, then grasping the glass and manually lifting it up and down through its free play, and winding the handle back and fore through what should be free play, and see whether one is significantly stiffer than the other.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 

  I am trying to restore my MGB GT window regulators and any advice would be appreciated.   The fuzzy stuff in the slides on both side of the glass is more than sad and obviously needs replacing - but with what?   I was considering using that slippy plastic Delrin or something better as Delrin does not like water   There are many options and I will have to find a knowledgeable supplier to supply the right stuff and the right shape.   I am assuming the outside runners can be move in and out to allow glass to slide up an down !!!???   Not looking forward to this !!!   Where can I get new ones??
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Thu Oct 22 01:22:46 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 08:22:46 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] old style water pump
References: <000f01d6a7d9$3a22cf70$ae686e50$@ranteer.com>
 <D4BADB6E-1923-43E8-91F8-D2298FE8832D@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <9744B4564F8F431789EDDAD5DE5DFF79@paul>

Not familiar, but take the belt, fan and pulley off?
  ----- Original Message ----- 


    My 56 mga has an old style water pump with the grease zerk.

    I can?t seem to get in there with any of my current tools.

    Anyone have a tool or instructions to do this?
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From barrob at bell.net  Thu Oct 22 07:08:39 2020
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 09:08:39 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Window regulator restoration
In-Reply-To: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
References: <90b6438c-25b1-4f9d-f5a8-1e5b9cd2997b@bell.net>
Message-ID: <46729986-c65d-5466-81e9-2aaf43b3f978@bell.net>

Sorry folks !??? I leapt before I looked.?? The right stuff is available 
from Moss and others. But I will also pursue the slippy plastic idea 
just for savage fun.

Cheers
Barrie

On 10/21/2020 5:16 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> I am trying to restore my MGB GT window regulators and any advice 
> would be appreciated.?? The fuzzy stuff in the slides on both side of 
> the glass is more than sad and obviously needs replacing - but with 
> what??? I was considering using that slippy plastic Delrin or 
> something better as Delrin does not like water?? There are many 
> options and I will have to find a knowledgeable supplier to supply the 
> right stuff and the right shape.?? I am assuming the outside runners 
> can be move in and out to allow glass to slide up an down !!!????? Not 
> looking forward to this !!! /Where can I get new ones/??
>
> Barrie
> MGB GT V8 replica!
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 14:01:11 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:01:11 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
Message-ID: <CABxEc+mkFq46VQyDrO9qStNmTtt-_WUNLAsxpPX3CntUNheBMQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently
returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon
out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed
in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas
before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so
around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy).

I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of
the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area
and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a
couple more gallons before I fill it up.

Thx,

Dan D
'76B-  Getting There
'65B - Waiting It's Turn
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Thu Oct 22 14:09:37 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 22:09:37 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
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Hi Dan,

 

Because of a defective fuel pump to be removed, I had to pump out most of the tank content.

I used a small motorbike fuel pump and got that into one of our cars.

This pump has a 3 feet tube for inside the tank thru the normal filling pipe.

I you want to drain the tank fully, check if there is a drain plug at the underside of the tank.

That can be used for the last part.

Hope this helps.

 

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT

 

Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Dan DiBiase
Verzonden: donderdag 22 oktober 2020 22:01
Aan: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>; MGB-Yahoo <mg-mgb at yahoogroups.com>
Onderwerp: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas

 

Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy). 

 

I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up.

 

Thx, 

 

Dan D

'76B-  Getting There

'65B - Waiting It's Turn

Central NJ USA


http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/



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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 14:13:44 2020
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:13:44 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+mkFq46VQyDrO9qStNmTtt-_WUNLAsxpPX3CntUNheBMQ@mail.gmail.com>
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I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit of
hose and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump old fuel
into jugs.

On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently
> returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon
> out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed
> in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas
> before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so
> around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy).
>
> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of
> the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area
> and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a
> couple more gallons before I fill it up.
>
> Thx,
>
> Dan D
> '76B-  Getting There
> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Thu Oct 22 14:15:31 2020
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (rolindsay at yahoo.com)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 15:15:31 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Fuel
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 14:25:30 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 16:25:30 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dwbXv_N5uf4Q=D2K8b8syzvJfbB-oA4ue_H_xbEuZ8Lyg@mail.gmail.com>
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OMG, duh! Thanks to all that replied with this excellent (and obvious,
now!) advice..............................

Dan D
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Thu, Oct 22, 2020 at 4:13 PM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I had the same problem. I disconnected the fuel hose, added a a long bit
> of hose and with the coil disconnected, used the fuel pump to pump old fuel
> into jugs.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2020, 3:02 PM Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently
>> returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon
>> out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed
>> in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas
>> before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so
>> around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy).
>>
>> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior
>> of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain
>> area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to
>> remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up.
>>
>> Thx,
>>
>> Dan D
>> '76B-  Getting There
>> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
>> Central NJ USA
>> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Thu Oct 22 15:19:32 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2020 17:19:32 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Siphoning Gas
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Hi Dan,
   You can let the SU pump do most of the job.   As it is cooled by the fuel pumping through it, it will not overheat. Plus, it gives you a test of its future reliability.
   There is, or should be, a baffle in there. Free surface liquid can result in a noticeable shift of weight.
Bob


> On Oct 22, 2020, at 4:01 PM, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi all.... My '76B, which was off the road for 5 years, was recently returned to me from the shop. They added some new gas but did not siphon out the 5 year old gas (which was just under 1/2 tank when I had it towed in. The car is running pretty rough so I want to siphon out most of the gas before I fill it up. It is currently showing as just under 1/2 tank, so around 6 gallons or a little less (assuming gauge accuracy). 
> 
> I was able to pump out about 2 gallons but am wondering if the interior of the tank is baffled, as I can't seem to move the hose beyond a certain area and it's not sucking up any additional gas. Would really like to remove a couple more gallons before I fill it up.
> 
> Thx, 
> 
> Dan D
> '76B-  Getting There
> '65B - Waiting It's Turn
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Fri Oct 23 17:55:36 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 17:55:36 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
Message-ID: <7fd382dd-0eb7-a4b9-b832-62e60f1887e7@bradakis.com>

Love that blue pearlescent paint job!

https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>


mjb.



From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 23 22:51:52 2020
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 21:51:52 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <7fd382dd-0eb7-a4b9-b832-62e60f1887e7@bradakis.com>
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seems red to me
Ira Erbs
Milwaukie,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

> Love that blue pearlescent paint job!
>
> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094
> >
>
>
> mjb.
>
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Sat Oct 24 01:07:06 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 07:07:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz89NKgSSW+yZ4Hx9TOQgj2YZpot=hA8t0TBdihyD6Qa3-A@mail.gmail.com>
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 In what universe is a square body worth $20,000?Mike MacLean

    On Friday, October 23, 2020, 9:55:21 PM PDT, i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 seems red to me
Ira ErbsMilwaukie,OR? ? ? _______ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?_______
? ?? (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
? ? ? ?? (_________________________)? ? ? ? ? BT7 engine and disk brakes

1967 MGB ?
A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

Love that blue pearlescent paint job!

https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>


mjb.


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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 05:09:15 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 07:09:15 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz89NKgSSW+yZ4Hx9TOQgj2YZpot=hA8t0TBdihyD6Qa3-A@mail.gmail.com>
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    The word description was orange.
    Might the link address have had an error?


> On Oct 24, 2020, at 12:51 AM, i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> seems red to me
> Ira Erbs
> Milwaukie,OR
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
> 
> 
> 1967 MGB  
> 
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
> 
> 
>> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 5:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:
>> Love that blue pearlescent paint job!
>> 
>> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>
>> 
>> 
>> mjb.
>> 
>> 
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sat Oct 24 08:43:27 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sat, 24 Oct 2020 10:43:27 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <7fd382dd-0eb7-a4b9-b832-62e60f1887e7@bradakis.com>
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Nicely done, but people really need to look up the definition of 'restored'!

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

> Love that blue pearlescent paint job!
>
> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094
> >
>
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From eric at erickson.on.net  Sat Oct 24 09:14:39 2020
From: eric at erickson.on.net (Eric)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:14:39 +1100
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
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Here you go :) 

https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/restoration-vs-refurbishment



Eric

> On 25 Oct 2020, at 1:43 am, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Nicely done, but people really need to look up the definition of 'restored'!
> 
> Dan D
> '76B, '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ <http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/>
> 
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com <mailto:mark at bradakis.com>> wrote:
> Love that blue pearlescent paint job!
> 
> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094> <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>>
> 
> 
> mjb.
> 
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From rrengineer.mike at att.net  Sat Oct 24 20:16:52 2020
From: rrengineer.mike at att.net (Michael MacLean)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 02:16:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
References: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>

I have been having problems with my MGB GT running hot.? To start out with the simplest things first, I removed the radiator cap and found what you see in the picture.? Add to that it is a 7 psi cap.? My car is a 1969 which requires a 10 psi cap.? After running out two tanks of gas it took half a 50/50 mix antifreeze container to fill the system back up.? Checking the timing is next.Mike MacLean1969 MGB GT with a 1967 engine.1960 Bugeye 1275 w/Datsun 5 Speed1956 BN2 Lemans

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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sun Oct 25 03:05:09 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:05:09 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
References: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
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Message-ID: <66F6F1B3F77B49829573670C3EA1BFDF@paul>

Unless you were really driving it hard the 7lb cap wouldn't have been a problem - if it IS holding 7lb, although the correct cap would be better.

If it took half a gallon to top it back up it must have been half empty.  The sludge could have been because insufficient coolant was boiling, but the question is where the coolant went since you last checked the level.  Either you have a coolant leak, or maybe a headgasket leak which is boiling it out.

In my experience the temp gauge rarely shows a problem when you are losing coolant from a system leak, unlike when the engine really is running hot and boiling coolant out that way, in which case I'd expect to see signs of that brown staining round the outlet from the rad over flow port or hose.  Head gasket leaks can result in significant temp gauge oscillation.

Timing?  I have my doubts.

PaulH.


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  I have been having problems with my MGB GT running hot.  To start out with the simplest things first, I removed the radiator cap and found what you see in the picture.  Add to that it is a 7 psi cap.  My car is a 1969 which requires a 10 psi cap.  After running out two tanks of gas it took half a 50/50 mix antifreeze container to fill the system back up.  Checking the timing is next.
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 05:14:28 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:14:28 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
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    Is it known to be running hot because the gauge or a thermometer says so? 
    In two tanks or running, assume 500 miles, the loss of two quarts is excessive, but you should not be boiling off that much even if the cap is rated below 10 psi.  
   The look of that cap suggests corrosion and dirt in the engine and radiator.  Has the antifreeze protection been maintained in the last few years, the AF being changed every other year?
   You might consider driving around with the cap loose until engine is fully warmed, then putting a kitchen thermometer into the water.  Also, an infra-red thermometer used on the thermostat housing and in a pattern around the radiator will tell you something.  
    From look of the cap, I suspect that there is sediment in the system and that radiator is partly blocked. Do this testing then we can evaluate the problem better.
Bob


> On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been having problems with my MGB GT running hot.  To start out with the simplest things first, I removed the radiator cap and found what you see in the picture.  Add to that it is a 7 psi cap.  My car is a 1969 which requires a 10 psi cap.  After running out two tanks of gas it took half a 50/50 mix antifreeze container to fill the system back up.  Checking the timing is next.
> Mike MacLean
> 1969 MGB GT with a 1967 engine.
> 1960 Bugeye 1275 w/Datsun 5 Speed
> 1956 BN2 Lemans
> 
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
> <Rad Cap.jpg>
> <Prestone.jpg>
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From ccrobins at ktc.com  Sun Oct 25 05:49:34 2020
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 06:49:34 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <b40a8592-fd37-78c5-50d2-51054d1d7e90@ktc.com>

If there ever was a candidate for a cooling system flush, you have it.

CR

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Oct 25 07:14:17 2020
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 07:14:17 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] MGB success!
Message-ID: <e8313254-ba13-e283-9693-1f6479fff083@bradakis.com>

A while back one of the folks in the British Motor Club of Utah posted 
on our Facebook page that he had some cars that needed attention.? I 
offered to assist.? I had meant to write it all down, as to when I did 
what, but of course I did not.

The car is a '73 MGB which hadn't been running for some time. Over the 
course of the last few months I've driven the 25 miles to his place and 
messed with it.? If I still had a shop where I could have easily worked 
on it whenever convenient for me it would have gotten done a lot 
sooner.? I currently am working graveyard, from 10 pm to 6 am.? So going 
up to Nick's place in the early afternoon is like the dead of night for 
me.?? ZZzzzzz.

Anyway, we worked on getting it started.? First off, no fuel to the 
carbs.? New fuel pump installed.? Then too much fuel, needle valves not 
closing.? Carbs get taken off, I bring them home.? It goes on for a 
while, like an LBC game of Whack-A-Mole.? Fix one problem, it brings to 
light another.? New coil, $200 on carb rebuild kit, new ignition switch. 
Back and forth between ignition and carbs, always another gremlin 
popping up.

Finally got close yesterday.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk>

Still needs some tweaking and minor adjustments, but after at least a 
dozen trips where I've headed home shaking my head in frustration, it 
was nice to head back to Salt Lake with a smile on my face.

mjb.



From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 07:22:15 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:22:15 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <BC2F46EE-015F-47DB-A416-219B9C7DC68A@gmail.com>
References: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>
 <BC2F46EE-015F-47DB-A416-219B9C7DC68A@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+miBLFFOdAH31T_tc6-=WzGDBOH72Ja0QvNRTZfwNgsMA@mail.gmail.com>

" From look of the cap, I suspect that there is sediment in the system and
that radiator is partly blocked. Do this testing then we can evaluate the
problem better. "

That was my first thought as well.

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 7:16 AM Robert's New iPad <mgbobh at gmail.com> wrote:

>     Is it known to be running hot because the gauge or a thermometer says
> so?
>     In two tanks or running, assume 500 miles, the loss of two quarts is
> excessive, but you should not be boiling off that much even if the cap is
> rated below 10 psi.
>    The look of that cap suggests corrosion and dirt in the engine and
> radiator.  Has the antifreeze protection been maintained in the last few
> years, the AF being changed every other year?
>    You might consider driving around with the cap loose until engine is
> fully warmed, then putting a kitchen thermometer into the water.  Also, an
> infra-red thermometer used on the thermostat housing and in a pattern
> around the radiator will tell you something.
>     From look of the cap, I suspect that there is sediment in the system
> and that radiator is partly blocked. Do this testing then we can evaluate
> the problem better.
> Bob
>
>
> On Oct 24, 2020, at 10:16 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike at att.net>
> wrote:
>
> I have been having problems with my MGB GT running hot.  To start out with
> the simplest things first, I removed the radiator cap and found what you
> see in the picture.  Add to that it is a 7 psi cap.  My car is a 1969 which
> requires a 10 psi cap.  After running out two tanks of gas it took half a
> 50/50 mix antifreeze container to fill the system back up.  Checking the
> timing is next.
> Mike MacLean
> 1969 MGB GT with a 1967 engine.
> 1960 Bugeye 1275 w/Datsun 5 Speed
> 1956 BN2 Lemans
>
> Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android
> <https://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=InProduct&c=Global_Internal_YGrowth_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&af_wl=ym&af_sub1=Internal&af_sub2=Global_YGrowth&af_sub3=EmailSignature>
>
> <Rad Cap.jpg>
>
> <Prestone.jpg>
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Oct 25 08:52:52 2020
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 09:52:52 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+kTh8eT4JFr1eJ5+uret4+F9MeYkwDu3qiF0rh_i2FEWw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7fd382dd-0eb7-a4b9-b832-62e60f1887e7@bradakis.com>
 <CABxEc+kTh8eT4JFr1eJ5+uret4+F9MeYkwDu3qiF0rh_i2FEWw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00e301d6aade$841bbbc0$8c533340$@ranteer.com>

I am very suspicious of the bottom of the car.  Looks like it was just sprayed with truck bed liner.  I really wonder what is under all that.

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Dan DiBiase
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2020 9:43 AM
To: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com>
Cc: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Nice car!

 

Nicely done, but people really need to look up the definition of 'restored'!

 

Dan D

'76B, '65B

Central NJ USA


http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/

 

 

On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com <mailto:mark at bradakis.com> > wrote:

Love that blue pearlescent paint job!

https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>


mjb.


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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 09:21:18 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:21:18 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Nice car!
In-Reply-To: <04882904-395B-4431-A705-E190BD232B33@erickson.on.net>
References: <7fd382dd-0eb7-a4b9-b832-62e60f1887e7@bradakis.com>
 <CABxEc+kTh8eT4JFr1eJ5+uret4+F9MeYkwDu3qiF0rh_i2FEWw@mail.gmail.com>
 <04882904-395B-4431-A705-E190BD232B33@erickson.on.net>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+mj_BPP-nt6r+65YS47KbcnzGA-iUCLG9Rt=70YFO-Y=A@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly.

Dan D

http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Oct 24, 2020 at 11:14 AM Eric <eric at erickson.on.net> wrote:

> Here you go :)
>
> https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/restoration-vs-refurbishment
>
>
>
> Eric
>
> On 25 Oct 2020, at 1:43 am, Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nicely done, but people really need to look up the definition of
> 'restored'!
>
> Dan D
> '76B, '65B
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 23, 2020 at 8:12 PM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:
>
>> Love that blue pearlescent paint job!
>>
>> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094 <
>> https://cars.ksl.com/listing/6749094>
>>
>>
>> mjb.
>>
>>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Oct 25 09:57:51 2020
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:57:51 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB success!
In-Reply-To: <e8313254-ba13-e283-9693-1f6479fff083@bradakis.com>
References: <e8313254-ba13-e283-9693-1f6479fff083@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+=1HjCJepSiRsKrYmhD_r=iBDDvQO3_YfhVyq-dTHDVCQ@mail.gmail.com>

That's great news, Mark!

Dan D
'76B, '65B
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sun, Oct 25, 2020 at 9:18 AM Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> wrote:

> A while back one of the folks in the British Motor Club of Utah posted
> on our Facebook page that he had some cars that needed attention.  I
> offered to assist.  I had meant to write it all down, as to when I did
> what, but of course I did not.
>
> The car is a '73 MGB which hadn't been running for some time. Over the
> course of the last few months I've driven the 25 miles to his place and
> messed with it.  If I still had a shop where I could have easily worked
> on it whenever convenient for me it would have gotten done a lot
> sooner.  I currently am working graveyard, from 10 pm to 6 am.  So going
> up to Nick's place in the early afternoon is like the dead of night for
> me.   ZZzzzzz.
>
> Anyway, we worked on getting it started.  First off, no fuel to the
> carbs.  New fuel pump installed.  Then too much fuel, needle valves not
> closing.  Carbs get taken off, I bring them home.  It goes on for a
> while, like an LBC game of Whack-A-Mole.  Fix one problem, it brings to
> light another.  New coil, $200 on carb rebuild kit, new ignition switch.
> Back and forth between ignition and carbs, always another gremlin
> popping up.
>
> Finally got close yesterday.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk>
>
> Still needs some tweaking and minor adjustments, but after at least a
> dozen trips where I've headed home shaking my head in frustration, it
> was nice to head back to Salt Lake with a smile on my face.
>
> mjb.
>
>
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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sun Oct 25 10:15:26 2020
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (dwoerpel)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 11:15:26 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGB success!
In-Reply-To: <e8313254-ba13-e283-9693-1f6479fff083@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.10.1603642532.2890.mgs@autox.team.net>


Way to go Mark!? Having worked on a few cars at other locations it isn't the most convenient situation but the feeling one gets, especially with a successful outcome, makes it all worthwhile.? Plus it's down right fun and with time the negatives fade.? Good on ya!Dave W.'59 :()'59 MGA 1500Burlington WI?Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S8, an AT&T 5G Evolution capable smartphone
-------- Original message --------From: Mark J Bradakis <mark at bradakis.com> Date: 10/25/20  8:14 AM  (GMT-06:00) To: mglist <mgs at autox.team.net> Subject: [Mgs] MGB success! A while back one of the folks in the British Motor Club of Utah posted on our Facebook page that he had some cars that needed attention.? I offered to assist.? I had meant to write it all down, as to when I did what, but of course I did not.The car is a '73 MGB which hadn't been running for some time. Over the course of the last few months I've driven the 25 miles to his place and messed with it.? If I still had a shop where I could have easily worked on it whenever convenient for me it would have gotten done a lot sooner.? I currently am working graveyard, from 10 pm to 6 am.? So going up to Nick's place in the early afternoon is like the dead of night for me.?? ZZzzzzz.Anyway, we worked on getting it started.? First off, no fuel to the carbs.? New fuel pump installed.? Then too much fuel, needle valves not closing.? Carbs get taken off, I bring them home.? It goes on for a while, like an LBC game of Whack-A-Mole.? Fix one problem, it brings to light another.? New coil, $200 on carb rebuild kit, new ignition switch. Back and forth between ignition and carbs, always another gremlin popping up.Finally got close yesterday.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55cmBVIF7Pk>Still needs some tweaking and minor adjustments, but after at least a dozen trips where I've headed home shaking my head in frustration, it was nice to head back to Salt Lake with a smile on my face.mjb._______________________________________________Mgs at autox.team.netDonate: http://www.team.net/donate.htmlSuggested annual donation? $12.75Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archiveUnsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dwoerpel at wi.net
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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Sun Oct 25 11:03:42 2020
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 13:03:42 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Overheating MGB GT
In-Reply-To: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <281081018.3060949.1603592212183.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <281081018.3060949.1603592212183@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.11.1603645446.2890.mgs@autox.team.net>

Last time I saw soft scum that color in a radiator it had oil in the 
coolant, so it might be a head gasket problem.


At 10:16 PM 10/24/2020, Michael MacLean wrote:
>I have been having problems with my MGB GT running hot.  To start 
>out with the simplest things first, I removed the radiator cap and 
>found what you see in the picture.  Add to that it is a 7 psi 
>cap.  My car is a 1969 which requires a 10 psi cap.  After running 
>out two tanks of gas it took half a 50/50 mix antifreeze container 
>to fill the system back up.  Checking the timing is next.
>Mike MacLean
>1969 MGB GT with a 1967 engine.
>1960 Bugeye 1275 w/Datsun 5 Speed
>1956 BN2 Lemans
>....
>Attachment: Rad Cap.jpg


From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Sun Oct 25 18:40:30 2020
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 00:40:30 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
Message-ID: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>

Some times you just get stumped! This is one of these times.  My 1500 MGA is pulling to the rt like the left fronts are not even working, sort of. 
Run down the road and not even step on the peddle hard and the car goes right rather hard.  Here is what I?ve done. First, made sure the adjusters are one click back from full on. Ck. Still same result.  Took off the drum cleaned with brake cleaner, even though all looked good, same result. Bleed the front brakes a good amount, same result. Clamped both wheel cylinders to ck movement of each. Both are moving. The front brakes were fully redone everything mid last summer. Put all back together, same result. Iv?e ordered new cylinders and will replace when arrive. Any other ideas??? 

Thanks 

paul



Paul Osborne
Paul's Canvas
7379 E Main St 
Lima NY 14485
585-255-0531




From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Mon Oct 26 02:55:32 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 08:55:32 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
Message-ID: <E59B0E861F59480A9639385DA046D2E1@paul>

On a single-circuit system air will affect all brakes equally.

Ideally pistons both will move out together when neither are clamped off. 
In practice one will always move before the other, but it's a question of 
how much extra pressure is needed to move the 'lazy' one.

Could be a hose breaking down internally and acting as a restrictor.

----- Original Message ----- 
... Clamped both wheel cylinders to ck movement of each. Both are moving. 
The front brakes were fully redone everything mid last summer. Put all back 
together, same result. Iv?e ordered new cylinders and will replace when 
arrive. Any other ideas???
> 

From mgbobh at gmail.com  Mon Oct 26 05:10:59 2020
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 07:10:59 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
In-Reply-To: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
Message-ID: <7EDBC017-3129-4440-8FB9-DC4A5B2CD755@gmail.com>

   Try driving the car 1/2 mile or so, then stop and feel the wheels & brakes.  A dragging brake will warm the wheel.
   A friend had a Mercedes that acted similarly.  Problem was a brake hose gone bad internally.  A bit of the inner lining peeled, would allow the brake to operate but then would act as a check valve and not release the fluid pressure.  The drag would warm the brake drums & cylinders, expand the fluid, and the wheel would really stick.
Bob

> On Oct 25, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Osborne, Paul <paul at ece.rochester.edu> wrote:
> 
> Some times you just get stumped! This is one of these times.  My 1500 MGA is pulling to the rt like the left fronts are not even working, sort of. 
> Run down the road and not even step on the peddle hard and the car goes right rather hard.  Here is what I?ve done. First, made sure the adjusters are one click back from full on. Ck. Still same result.  Took off the drum cleaned with brake cleaner, even though all looked good, same result. Bleed the front brakes a good amount, same result. Clamped both wheel cylinders to ck movement of each. Both are moving. The front brakes were fully redone everything mid last summer. Put all back together, same result. Iv?e ordered new cylinders and will replace when arrive. Any other ideas??? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> paul
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Osborne
> Paul's Canvas
> 7379 E Main St 
> Lima NY 14485
> 585-255-0531
> 
> 
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Mon Oct 26 05:13:04 2020
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (h.duinhoven at planet.nl)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 12:13:04 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
In-Reply-To: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
Message-ID: <000801d6ab88$f9ded2c0$ed9c7840$@planet.nl>

Take the drums of the front brakes off and verify for any leaky save cylinders. 
If a cylinder has leaked, the brake shoes are contaminated with brake fluid, causing bad brake operation.

So ordering brake cylinders is a good idea, but replacing any brake shoes which have been in contact with brake fluid also is important. 

Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Hans 71 BGT

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> Namens Osborne, Paul
Verzonden: maandag 26 oktober 2020 01:41
Aan: Mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
Onderwerp: [Mgs] MGA 1500 Front Brakes

Some times you just get stumped! This is one of these times.  My 1500 MGA is pulling to the rt like the left fronts are not even working, sort of. 
Run down the road and not even step on the peddle hard and the car goes right rather hard.  Here is what I?ve done. First, made sure the adjusters are one click back from full on. Ck. Still same result.  Took off the drum cleaned with brake cleaner, even though all looked good, same result. Bleed the front brakes a good amount, same result. Clamped both wheel cylinders to ck movement of each. Both are moving. The front brakes were fully redone everything mid last summer. Put all back together, same result. Iv?e ordered new cylinders and will replace when arrive. Any other ideas??? 

Thanks 

paul



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Paul's Canvas
7379 E Main St 
Lima NY 14485
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Mon Oct 26 11:29:20 2020
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 10:29:20 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
In-Reply-To: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
Message-ID: <28DBBDB0-C0A9-4D83-85BB-F4712802AC8C@sonic.net>

It would certainly seem to be brake related, but here is a more far-fetched suggestion: a broken rear spring. This will cause asymmetric wheel loading, which can make the car pull hard to one side. You would probably notice asymmetric cornering response as well, though. Curiously, it doesn?t seem to affect the ride much.
 
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> On Oct 25, 2020, at 5:40 PM, Osborne, Paul <paul at ece.rochester.edu> wrote:
> 
> Some times you just get stumped! This is one of these times.  My 1500 MGA is pulling to the rt like the left fronts are not even working, sort of. 
> Run down the road and not even step on the peddle hard and the car goes right rather hard.  Here is what I?ve done. First, made sure the adjusters are one click back from full on. Ck. Still same result.  Took off the drum cleaned with brake cleaner, even though all looked good, same result. Bleed the front brakes a good amount, same result. Clamped both wheel cylinders to ck movement of each. Both are moving. The front brakes were fully redone everything mid last summer. Put all back together, same result. Iv?e ordered new cylinders and will replace when arrive. Any other ideas??? 
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> paul
> 
> 
> 
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From ejrussell at mebtel.net  Mon Oct 26 13:34:50 2020
From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric Russell)
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 15:34:50 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500 Front Brakes
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In addition to checking all parts of the brake system, check for loose 
rear leaf spring U-bolts. Does it tend to veer one way on acceleration 
and the other on deceleration? Classic symptom of loose U-bolts. (or a 
broken leaf as Max has noted)

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

On 10/26/2020 2:00 PM, mgs-request at autox.team.net wrote:
> Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2020 00:40:30 +0000
> From: "Osborne, Paul" <paul at ece.rochester.edu>
> To: Mglist <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
>
>
> Some times you just get stumped! This is one of these times.  My 1500 MGA is pulling to the rt like the left fronts are not even working, sort of.
> Run down the road and not even step on the peddle hard and the car goes right rather hard.


From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Oct 27 02:20:18 2020
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 08:20:18 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
 <28DBBDB0-C0A9-4D83-85BB-F4712802AC8C@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <B044162FA73F43CA966BE02CF678F03E@paul>

For me and a pal a broken MGB rear spring caused the axle to move back an 
inch or more on that side and the result was the steering wheel turned to 
one side when travelling in a straight line.


----- Original Message ----- 

> It would certainly seem to be brake related, but here is a more 
> far-fetched suggestion: a broken rear spring. 


From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Tue Oct 27 04:56:44 2020
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2020 10:56:44 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1500  Front Brakes
In-Reply-To: <B044162FA73F43CA966BE02CF678F03E@paul>
References: <655338D1-4B07-4A91-8F66-4C7E086D4D7C@ur.rochester.edu>
 <28DBBDB0-C0A9-4D83-85BB-F4712802AC8C@sonic.net>
 <B044162FA73F43CA966BE02CF678F03E@paul>
Message-ID: <0D50388A-0C90-4111-8DAB-88A7CA1E4B5B@ur.rochester.edu>

Thanks for the response from the collective, here is what I found. No, I do not have a broken rear spring, though I did not think about that.
The rear cylinder in the left front wheel, as there are two cylinders in each front wheel, had limited travel due to a corrosion spot on the bore, not allowing the piston to fully travel down the bore. Giving only 1/2 of the brake action in that wheel, causing the car to pull right. Have ordered 2 new cylinders and a set of shoes and will do this in the spring when I get the car out.  Again, thank you for the input.

paul



Paul Osborne
Department of Electrical and Computer Eng
University of Rochester
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Rochester NY 14627
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On Oct 27, 2020, at 4:20 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com<mailto:paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>> wrote:

For me and a pal a broken MGB rear spring caused the axle to move back an inch or more on that side and the result was the steering wheel turned to one side when travelling in a straight line.


----- Original Message -----
It would certainly seem to be brake related, but here is a more far-fetched suggestion: a broken rear spring.

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From dwoerpel at wi.net  Sat Oct 31 13:47:17 2020
From: dwoerpel at wi.net (David Woerpel)
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2020 14:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Video and Les Myer article
Message-ID: <83b6bfad-8afb-8adb-aceb-5957c402a269@wi.net>

Hi folks,

As long as we're doing blasts from the past.? I just found and read Les 
Myer's account of his trip transporting a Midget to Frank's and then 
picking up another and trailering it home. Brought back memories.

http://members.tripod.com/prev_pdljmpr/rhode.htm


Next, John Seaman sent a link to his YouTube with an updated edited 
version of the Midget 50th at Road America.? Well done and even Burt 
Levy gets in the act.


https://youtu.be/LC9ALmTXYNQ


Enjoy and stay well,

Dave W.

'59 :{)

"59 MGA 1500

Burlington WI

"Pay It Forward"

If you come here wear a freaking mask! (to paraphrase our Gov.)