From eyera3000 at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 07:20:10 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 06:20:10 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Shims Message-ID: Any advice on shimming replacement rotors on a spridget? Working on a 65 Sprite. Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rolindsay at yahoo.com Sun Sep 1 08:25:31 2019 From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick) Date: Sun, 01 Sep 2019 09:25:31 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Shims In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <59cca16b-a4e4-48e0-a847-ea2c845f17ef@email.android.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britfan1 at epix.net Sun Sep 1 10:51:18 2019 From: britfan1 at epix.net (S. Carr) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 12:51:18 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: Have found a good-looking replacement locally. Now to get the old one off.... Thanks to all for your replies! Sarah -----Original Message----- From: Chris Moog via Mgs Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:19 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed Funny you should ask, I spent this morning cleaning car parts out of my mother's house as we prepare to sell it. I have a rack from a 1969 parts car. I've never drove the car before removing the rack 25 years ago. Rack seems fine. You can have it. I'm in Orange County NY. I want someone to use it not sell it. On 8/31/2019 1:58 PM, S. Carr via Mgs wrote: > Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack > for a 1970/71 B? Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous > owner ever lubricated it.... > Sarah Carr > B/GT in PA From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sun Sep 1 13:38:45 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2019 14:38:45 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: My TR6 project car has a healthy rack but the boots are damaged. I have new boots but they a real challenge to install. Not only do the tie rod ends not want to come off, but also, there isn't enough room to get one's hands in place to stretch the new boot onto the rack tube! I fear it will have to come out just to get the boots and new tie rod ends on! On Sun, Sep 1, 2019, 11:51 AM S. Carr via Mgs wrote: > Have found a good-looking replacement locally. Now to get the old one > off.... > > Thanks to all for your replies! > Sarah > > -----Original Message----- > From: Chris Moog via Mgs > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 9:19 PM > To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed > > Funny you should ask, I spent this morning cleaning car parts out of my > mother's house as we prepare to sell it. I have a rack from a 1969 > parts car. I've never drove the car before removing the rack 25 years > ago. Rack seems fine. You can have it. I'm in Orange County NY. > > I want someone to use it not sell it. > > > On 8/31/2019 1:58 PM, S. Carr via Mgs wrote: > > Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack > > for a 1970/71 B? Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no > previous > > owner ever lubricated it.... > > Sarah Carr > > B/GT in PA > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Mon Sep 2 01:59:36 2019 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 08:59:36 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Shims References: <59cca16b-a4e4-48e0-a847-ea2c845f17ef@email.android.com> Message-ID: No experience with a Sprite but why does it matter? Each piston comes out as far as it needs to to press the pad against the disc. After that they both press on the disc with equal and opposite force. As long as the disc isn't rubbing on the caliper I can't see the problem. It's not a Jaguar, Ferrari or Maserati where such things might be desirable. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Ira, I have always used the measure-shim-measure method. The goal is of course, to center the rotor on the caliper. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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I had my doubts about the sliding pins, but despite a number of corroded parts on my 14 year-old ZS - far more than on my 40 year old MGBs - those haven't yet given me problems, it has been the pistons themselves, as on the MGB calipers. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- I have heard of but not experienced, floating calipers. Do they have a piston on one side only? Seems a really silly place to cut cost corners! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From eyera3000 at gmail.com Mon Sep 2 08:21:06 2019 From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs) Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2019 07:21:06 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Shims In-Reply-To: References: <59cca16b-a4e4-48e0-a847-ea2c845f17ef@email.android.com> Message-ID: It mstters so the rotor and hub fit properly on the spindle Ira Erbs Portland, OR typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone On Mon, Sep 2, 2019, 1:28 AM PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote: > No experience with a Sprite but why does it matter? Each piston comes out > as far as it needs to to press the pad against the disc. After that they > both press on the disc with equal and opposite force. As long as the disc > isn't rubbing on the caliper I can't see the problem. It's not a Jaguar, > Ferrari or Maserati where such things might be desirable. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > Ira, I have always used the measure-shim-measure method. The goal is of > course, to center the rotor on the caliper. > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/eyera3000 at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Message-ID: That sounds more like bearing shims - the ones to give a specified end-float of the hub on the spindle which is needed on the MGB roller bearings at least. After that the disc position is what it is. There is a long article here https://www.mgexp.com/article/mg-midget-wheel-bearings.html which describes Midget/Sprite and MGB bearings, saying that the former is not designed to be shimmed whereas the latter is. Nevertheless they go on to describe shimming the Midget and Sprite, but on the same basis as for the MGB i.e. to get a certain play in the bearings. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- It mstters so the rotor and hub fit properly on the spindle -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wkilleffer at epbfi.com Tue Sep 3 08:05:48 2019 From: wkilleffer at epbfi.com (wkilleffer at epbfi.com) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 10:05:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Mgs] Sourcing radiator hoses Message-ID: <1939335366.69443952.1567519548624.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> Hello everyone, Recently, I did a bunch of work on the cooling system of my 1974 MGB. The car has a 1971 engine and is set up to use an upper radiator hose, a separate lower hose, and a brass fitting that attaches to the water pump with a short length of hose and sends coolant up to the heater core. The work I did included a new radiator, hoses, hose clamps, and thermostat. I sourced all the items from Vicky-Brit at the end of May and installed them sometime in July. The problem is that the hoses seemed a bit flimsy compared to the ones I took off. Seems like the old hoses came from NAPA. I was driving the car after fitting all the new parts in the early part of August, and all seemed well. I thought I'd been careful to get the air out of the system. We had some really hot days that month, with the heat index showing up at 95+deg, but the car seemed to run well and the temp gauge never got into the danger zone. I was driving it home on one of those hot evenings, when I started smelling coolant not far from home. I didn't see any steam, so I drove the rest of the way home, which was less than a mile at that point. Upon raising the bonnet, I saw evidence of a coolant leak, and then found the split place in the upper radiator hose. The car's been sitting in my garage ever since as I haven't yet had time to deal with that. Is this the fault of a bad hose, or did I fail to get all of the air out of the system, or was it just too hot that day to safely be driving the car? I'm going to assume that I can still find hoses at NAPA, but does anyone have any suggestions about that? Thank you, -William -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Tue Sep 3 08:40:01 2019 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 15:40:01 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Sourcing radiator hoses References: <1939335366.69443952.1567519548624.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> Message-ID: <4EBE0893DF6B43C286C897B29264D5C1@paul> Unless you have a radiator cap that has a higher rated pressure than it should have, or it is faulty, then the split hose is simply down to poor quality. Nothing to do with air, if you didn't get all of that out and coolant was boiling it should simply vent any excess pressure from the cap. According to Clausager the cap was 10lb until 1976, when it became 13lb. MGCs had 14lb and V8s 15lb so even those shouldn't cause a problem. You could cause the coolant to boil on a perfect system if the temps were very high, and you used the car really hard, but that would show on the temp gauge. However I have found that if the coolant level drops for any reason, that DOESN'T show on the gauge. Getting all the air out should need nothing more than filling the system and first engine run with the nose slightly higher than the rear, and the heater valve opened. Once that has percolated round and you allow it to cool and top up as necessary, any remaining air should work its way into the rad (expansion tank on 77 and later) over the next couple of heat/cool cycles (normal driving) where you can keep an eye on level. However the thermostat can cause a major problem with getting enough coolant in. They should have a vent, which originally consisted of a jiggle valve in the outer disc, or a small notch in the edge of the opening valve. But some here in the UK have had neither, and they trap a huge amount of air. I've had to drill a 2mm hole in the outer disc of one of mine. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Upon raising the bonnet, I saw evidence of a coolant leak, and then found the split place in the upper radiator hose. The car's been sitting in my garage ever since as I haven't yet had time to deal with that. Is this the fault of a bad hose, or did I fail to get all of the air out of the system, or was it just too hot that day to safely be driving the car? I'm going to assume that I can still find hoses at NAPA, but does anyone have any suggestions about that? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From Charley38 at twc.com Tue Sep 3 15:29:13 2019 From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson) Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2019 16:29:13 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Sourcing radiator hoses In-Reply-To: <1939335366.69443952.1567519548624.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> References: <1939335366.69443952.1567519548624.JavaMail.zimbra@epbfi.com> Message-ID: Too busy to change an upper radiator hose?? Now, that's busy! Could be a faulty hose, but you might want to check to see if your radiator cap is within spec.? Seems like I got my last hoses from CarQuest.? They're my best local source for LBC parts. CR On 9/3/2019 9:05 AM, William Killeffer via Mgs wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Recently, I did a bunch of work on the cooling system of my 1974 MGB. > The car has a 1971 engine and is set up to use an upper radiator hose, > a separate lower hose, and a brass fitting that attaches to the water > pump with a short length of hose and sends coolant up to the heater > core. The work I did included a new radiator, hoses, hose clamps, and > thermostat. I sourced all the items from Vicky-Brit at the end of May > and installed them sometime in July. > > The problem is that the hoses seemed a bit flimsy compared to the ones > I took off. Seems like the old hoses came from NAPA. I was driving the > car after fitting all the new parts in the early part of August, and > all seemed well. I?thought I'd been careful to get the air out of the > system. We had some really hot days that month, with the heat index > showing up at 95+deg, but the car seemed to run well and the temp > gauge never got into the danger zone. I was driving it home on one of > those hot evenings, when I started smelling coolant not far from home. > I didn't see any steam, so I drove the rest of the way home, which was > less than a mile at that point. > > Upon raising the bonnet, I saw evidence of a coolant leak, and then > found the split place in the upper radiator hose. The car's been > sitting in my garage ever since as I haven't yet had time to deal with > that. > > Is this the fault of a bad hose, or did I fail to get all of the air > out of the system, or was it just too hot that day to safely be > driving the car? I'm going to assume that I can still find hoses at > NAPA, but does anyone have any suggestions about that? > > Thank you, > -William > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/charley38 at twc.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrob at bell.net Thu Sep 5 09:08:11 2019 From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 11:08:11 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Modern radio in old MGB car Message-ID: <836ae372-86d4-70ed-a83c-ccaa3ba32d19@bell.net> Hello folks, This is just comments on putting a radio in an MGB. When I built my MGB GT V8 many years ago I did not put in a radio - so recently I decided to put one in.? I wanted a remote USB a facility and one Pioneer model offered this so I got my local car radio shop to put it in.?? Now, I hate adverts and only listen to two stations.?? The installed radio was great BUT could not pick up the two (weak) stations despite a "new all singing, all dancing" windscreen antenna.? Disaster.? Not only this but my battery went flat after not using the car for a few days.? A nasty problem as electrical leaks are hard to diagnose.? For the weak stations problem the Radio shop advised a powered antenna - so I bought one from Retro Manufacturing - the lasts small one they had that would fit in the rear of the MGB - lucky.?? Mounting the powered antenna was awkward especially as the install instructions were WRONG.? After installation it worked fine - weak stations no problem. ? But battery flattening continued !!!!?? Then radio man /thought /that modern radios had facilities that connected them to "modern" car computers and thus the drain as the radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it was turned off.??? So being an electrical genius I had a kill switch installed.??? Thus no matter what, the radio would get no power allowing it to chat to the car computer and drain the battery.? It works fine.? So for those installing a "modern" radio make sure it is not one that "talks" to a car computer.? As to the powered antenna, a windshield one will do you unless you want to pick up weak stations. Cheers -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mvheim at sonic.net Thu Sep 5 17:58:30 2019 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2019 16:58:30 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Modern radio in old MGB car In-Reply-To: <786e324b-2ee9-fec1-67e4-3b900141cebd@bell.net> References: <836ae372-86d4-70ed-a83c-ccaa3ba32d19@bell.net> <89FB171E-6510-4067-A974-ECDC0CA4C5D5@sonic.net> <786e324b-2ee9-fec1-67e4-3b900141cebd@bell.net> Message-ID: <3EDAF2C2-E3A0-4EF5-9A7E-62281C086C20@sonic.net> What I was saying is that you used to lose your presets every time you disconnected the battery. It was a problem. But I suppose they can use flash memory now. I guess it?s obvious that the last car stereo I bought was back in the 90s. I recently won one in a raffle at a car show, though. But I had no intention of having a radio in the B, and it won?t fit my other two vintage cars (and it?s inferior to the unit in my wife?s car). I haven?t got around to advertising it yet. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Sep 5, 2019, at 4:08 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Hello Max, > > Losing presets would not be a feature as that would cause too many problems with punters. Change of battery, disconnect of battery for repair, etc etc would cause chaos !!! > > On 9/5/2019 1:48 PM, Max Heim wrote: >> IME, when you kill power to a digitally-tuned radio, you lose any station presets. But maybe newer units have resolved that issue. >> >> -- >> Max Heim >> '66 MGB >> >>> On Sep 5, 2019, at 8:08 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs > wrote: >>> >>> Hello folks, >>> >>> This is just comments on putting a radio in an MGB. >>> >>> When I built my MGB GT V8 many years ago I did not put in a radio - so recently I decided to put one in. I wanted a remote USB a facility and one Pioneer model offered this so I got my local car radio shop to put it in. Now, I hate adverts and only listen to two stations. The installed radio was great BUT could not pick up the two (weak) stations despite a "new all singing, all dancing" windscreen antenna. Disaster. Not only this but my battery went flat after not using the car for a few days. A nasty problem as electrical leaks are hard to diagnose. For the weak stations problem the Radio shop advised a powered antenna - so I bought one from Retro Manufacturing - the lasts small one they had that would fit in the rear of the MGB - lucky. Mounting the powered antenna was awkward especially as the install instructions were WRONG. After installation it worked fine - weak stations no problem. But battery flattening continued !!!! Then radio man thought that modern radios had facilities that connected them to "modern" car computers and thus the drain as the radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it was turned off. So being an electrical genius I had a kill switch installed. Thus no matter what, the radio would get no power allowing it to chat to the car computer and drain the battery. It works fine. So for those installing a "modern" radio make sure it is not one that "talks" to a car computer. As to the powered antenna, a windshield one will do you unless you want to pick up weak stations. >>> >>> Cheers >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>> >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive >>> >>> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net >> > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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That loses its stations so put a bypass for that and the clock which conveniently are on the same fuse, but it still fails after several weeks of not being used. Checking for a drain isn't difficult even if finding the cause is time-consuming. Remove the battery earth strap and connect a VOLTmeter in its place. If you have a dynamo there shouldn't be anything shown on the meter. With an alternator there is usually a microscopic drain from the diodes, which shows up as a few volts on an analogue meter and 12v on a typical digital. If you see 12v on a typical analogue you do have a drain. Unplug the alternator and if that drops to zero on an analogue then the alternator diodes are suspect, a digital is too sensitive to tell the difference directly but you could measure the current. If you still see 12v on either then disconnect any alarm or 'in car entertainment', then the purple circuit fuse, hazard flasher fuse, brown wires from ignition switch, lighting switch, fusebox, relays and solenoid until it drops to zero. The thing that caused it to drop needs further investigation, of course. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- ... Then radio man thought that modern radios had facilities that connected them to "modern" car computers and thus the drain as the radio would keep "on" and chatting even when it was turned off. ... -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From frankk12 at verizon.net Sat Sep 7 10:20:37 2019 From: frankk12 at verizon.net (Frank Krajewski) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 12:20:37 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Sprite Diff Message-ID: <7001a37e-9a38-4589-b8fa-711961317d38@verizon.net> I know this is not MG but it is LBC related. I have a good friend in Reno who is restoring a Bugeye and is in dire need of a 3.9 diff. If any of you have one or know of one available please let me know. Frank Krajewski From barneymg at mgaguru.com Sat Sep 7 17:31:48 2019 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Sat, 07 Sep 2019 18:31:48 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Sprite Diff In-Reply-To: <7001a37e-9a38-4589-b8fa-711961317d38@verizon.net> References: <7001a37e-9a38-4589-b8fa-711961317d38@verizon.net> Message-ID: Could be MG content. The Sprite differential is same as MG Midget and there will be lot more donor Midgets than Sprites. At 11:20 AM 9/7/2019, Frank Krajewski via Mgs wrote: >I know this is not MG but it is LBC related. I have a good friend in >Reno who is restoring a Bugeye and is in dire need of a 3.9 diff. If >any of you have one or know of one available please let me know. > >Frank Krajewski From lrc at red4est.com Sat Sep 7 17:51:34 2019 From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 16:51:34 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Sprite Diff In-Reply-To: <7001a37e-9a38-4589-b8fa-711961317d38@verizon.net> References: <7001a37e-9a38-4589-b8fa-711961317d38@verizon.net> Message-ID: <9763E0C0-3387-48AA-AF16-A66A9E290B4F@red4est.com> > On Sep 7, 2019, at 9:20 AM, Frank Krajewski via Mgs wrote: > > I know this is not MG but it is LBC related. I have a good friend in Reno who is restoring a Bugeye and is in dire need of a 3.9 diff. If any of you have one or know of one available please let me know. Back when I was racing my Mk II (1968) Ford Cortina GT, I noticed that a lot of the differential parts were interchangeable with Spridget. I don?t know what is broken on his, but he might have some luck pursuing that angle. -- Larry Colen lrc at red4est.com From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Sep 7 20:06:23 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2019 21:06:23 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Progress, multi-cars...and OT Message-ID: Hello Friends, A little over a week ago the battery in my LBC exploded, showering me with acid and leaving me deafened. Cutting to the chase: I received no acid burns, thanks to stripping down and dousing myself with water, followed by a proper shower a few minutes later. Partial hearing returned after 10-15 minutes but is still limited and accompanied by a buzzing ring in one ear. I am under a doctor's care and will know more as my ears heal. The car has been cleaned, decontaminated, and repainted where necessary. A new battery is now installed but not yet connected. I want to clean the connectors again before they go on. My '85 Maserati Biturbo is at the independent mechanic where the turbos are being cleaned, oil hoses replaced, and a new fuel pump and filter will go in. Today the E-Type got new connectors on all the V12's harness wires. And tomorrow, the car will get new thermostats and coolant. Testing revealed that coolant exiting the engine's left bank was 180?F while that exiting the right bank was 160?F. The implication is that sometime along the car's history, one of the thermostats was replaced with a wrong value unit. New 160? hot climate thermostats go in tomorrow, both banks, followed by refilling with 50:50 antifreeze concentrate, and distilled water. Yea, more information than anyone needs...and mostly off topic. Rick, in Houston PS: I promise MG TD content when next I post. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.dibiase at gmail.com Mon Sep 9 07:01:22 2019 From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 9 Sep 2019 09:01:22 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Progress, multi-cars...and OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, glad to hear that you are (mostly) ok, Rick..... Which car was it, the TR or the TD? Any idea what could have caused the explosion? Dan D Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Sat, Sep 7, 2019 at 10:06 PM Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote: > Hello Friends, > A little over a week ago the battery in my LBC exploded, showering me > with acid and leaving me deafened. Cutting to the chase: I received no > acid burns, thanks to stripping down and dousing myself with water, > followed by a proper shower a few minutes later. > Partial hearing returned after 10-15 minutes but is still limited and > accompanied by a buzzing ring in one ear. I am under a doctor's care and > will know more as my ears heal. > The car has been cleaned, decontaminated, and repainted where > necessary. A new battery is now installed but not yet connected. I want to > clean the connectors again before they go on. > My '85 Maserati Biturbo is at the independent mechanic where the turbos > are being cleaned, oil hoses replaced, and a new fuel pump and filter will > go in. > Today the E-Type got new connectors on all the V12's harness wires. And > tomorrow, the car will get new thermostats and coolant. > Testing revealed that coolant exiting the engine's left bank was 180?F > while that exiting the right bank was 160?F. The implication is that > sometime along the car's history, one of the thermostats was replaced with > a wrong value unit. New 160? hot climate thermostats go in tomorrow, both > banks, followed by refilling with 50:50 antifreeze concentrate, and > distilled water. > Yea, more information than anyone needs...and mostly off topic. > > Rick, in Houston > PS: I promise MG TD content when next I post. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Tue Sep 10 07:11:07 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 08:11:07 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Way too quiet... Message-ID: Good day Friends, Its too quiet here so I will share a little OT noise. My Jaguar E-Type's V12 now has a freshly installed 160?F, hot climate thermostat...on the right cylinder bank. Today I will replace the thermostat on the left bank. Here's the back-story. While servicing the car a few days ago I measured the thermostat housings with an IR thermometer. The left bank measured about 180?F while the right bank measured 160?F. The difference could be attributed to a number of things but Occam's Razor says that the more likely reason is different value thermostats installed. Upon servicing the right bank, I discovered a thermostat marked ' 74 '. That's 165?F, just (about) what the IR thermometer read. A new 160? thermostat is now installed. http://aubard.us/73_Jaguar/20190909_180528.jpg http://aubard.us/73_Jaguar/20190909_180651.jpg I fully expect to find an old 180? thermostat installed in the left bank. Of course there is another possibility. The installed thermostat could be damaged and opening only partially. If so, the temperature on that bank would read higher, but 180?? Precisely the temperature of a mild climate thermostat? I don't like coincidences and doubt this one too. However, today will tell when I remove the old thermostat. Actually, that last statement is only partially true. If a 180? thermostat is removed, all will be as expected. If however, a 160? thermostat is removed, the exact mechanism for 20? hotter coolant exiting the this bank will remain a mystery. But before any of that fun work can begin there are a couple of items in the queue ahead of it. I plan to exercise all of the other cars while its a bit cooler outside then stop by the shop to see if the mechanic has made progress on the Maserati. Once the E-Type's service is complete, the TD will get its new brake master cylinder and plans will be laid for finishing the top and sidescreen canvas! Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 05:37:05 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 06:37:05 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Paint Message-ID: Hello friends, I visited the painter yesterday, as planned, and recieved a nice surprise. Management had all of the paint dispensers replaced so the mix precision is now restored to new, not that it was ever bad. The paint guy knows the PPG Shopline paint inside and out. I have worked with the manager before on four previous jobs and she is fair and honest. She discounts the costs for me and measures the labor honestly (repeat customer). The car requires very little body work so the labor charge is minimal. There are four holes in the rear deck lid that will be welded closed (old luggage rack mounts) and a small rust spot where water leaked in through one of the holes. Other than that, there are just a few dimples on the bonnet that will be flattened. And of course sanding to a stable base. The finishing process will then be: repairs > high build epoxy sealant > block sanding > basecoat > 3 layers of clearcoat. All done in urethane for a wet-look gloss. One week turn around and starting on a Monday. Paint by the end of the week, final curing over the weekend. Triumph number '82 Carmine' red paint color is of course, not in their color formula table. The car is 45 years old and as we know, somewhat rare to boot. I have the PPG, Dupont and Ditzler paint codes as well as the Triumph code but that doesn't really help. What I do have that will work is a bottle of Carmine red touchup paint and the color is correct. So, I'm going to paint a sample card with that paint and their color computer can scan and match it! The paint guy is meticulous and will mix a test to compare. After that its painting as normal. I will also save the formula in case of subsequent work (gasp). Its Saturday morning so my junior mechanic, a.k.a. grandson, comes to help at the shop. We have great fun on Saturday mornings. We first have breakfast, then go to the shop. Sometimes we go to Harbor Freight together to walk the isles and get the free doodad of the week. Once at the shop we do actual work - for a while - then he rides his bike and visits with the guy in the unit next door. That guy often brings his teenage daughter along and she is great with Kelum...and she is a motorhead, restoring her old pickup truck. That's it. Off to work and play. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dan.dibiase at gmail.com Sat Sep 14 13:27:34 2019 From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2019 15:27:34 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Paint In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Sounds like a great way to spend a Saturday, Rick! Dan D Central NJ USA http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/ On Sat, Sep 14, 2019 at 7:38 AM Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote: > Hello friends, > I visited the painter yesterday, as planned, and recieved a nice > surprise. Management had all of the paint dispensers replaced so the mix > precision is now restored to new, not that it was ever bad. The paint guy > knows the PPG Shopline paint inside and out. I have worked with the manager > before on four previous jobs and she is fair and honest. She discounts the > costs for me and measures the labor honestly (repeat customer). > The car requires very little body work so the labor charge is minimal. > There are four holes in the rear deck lid that will be welded closed (old > luggage rack mounts) and a small rust spot where water leaked in through > one of the holes. Other than that, there are just a few dimples on the > bonnet that will be flattened. And of course sanding to a stable base. > The finishing process will then be: repairs > high build epoxy sealant > > block sanding > basecoat > 3 layers of clearcoat. All done in urethane > for a wet-look gloss. One week turn around and starting on a Monday. Paint > by the end of the week, final curing over the weekend. > Triumph number '82 Carmine' red paint color is of course, not in their > color formula table. The car is 45 years old and as we know, somewhat rare > to boot. I have the PPG, Dupont and Ditzler paint codes as well as the > Triumph code but that doesn't really help. What I do have that will work is > a bottle of Carmine red touchup paint and the color is correct. So, I'm > going to paint a sample card with that paint and their color computer can > scan and match it! The paint guy is meticulous and will mix a test to > compare. After that its painting as normal. I will also save the formula in > case of subsequent work (gasp). > > Its Saturday morning so my junior mechanic, a.k.a. grandson, comes to > help at the shop. We have great fun on Saturday mornings. We first have > breakfast, then go to the shop. Sometimes we go to Harbor Freight together > to walk the isles and get the free doodad of the week. Once at the shop we > do actual work - for a while - then he rides his bike and visits with the > guy in the unit next door. That guy often brings his teenage daughter along > and she is great with Kelum...and she is a motorhead, restoring her old > pickup truck. > That's it. Off to work and play. > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dan.dibiase at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britfan1 at epix.net Wed Sep 18 10:28:16 2019 From: britfan1 at epix.net (S. Carr) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 12:28:16 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> Message-ID: <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> The autopsy on the frozen steering rack revealed that one of the bushings had seized on the shaft--judging by the amount/type of rust, the rack had not seen lubrication for many years, though some previous owner had been at the rack, as the boots were fastened with zip ties and not clamps. I confess that we never lubricated it, as access to the cover on the R&P is difficult, to say the least! My mechanic was thinking of drilling a hole & welding a grease fitting on a used replacement rack, but that one also was sticking near one end, so a new rack and tie rod ends are on order. That should last me the rest of my driving life with the car! Sarah Carr '71 B/GT in PA -----Original Message----- From: Eric Russell Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:26 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net ; britfan1 at epix.net Subject: Re: MGB rack&pinion needed Try disconnecting the tie rod ends and re-assessing. The MG rack & pinion is quite sturdy. While it is possible the R&P could seize, I think it more likely one or both kingpins would seize - especially if the rubber seals have perished and it has not been greased regularly. Eric Russell Mebane, NC > 1. MGB rack&pinion needed (S. Carr) > > Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack > for a 1970/71 B? Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous > owner ever lubricated it.... > > Sarah Carr > B/GT in PA From mvheim at sonic.net Wed Sep 18 10:40:29 2019 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 09:40:29 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> Message-ID: <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> Remember, the racks are not greased ? they should filled with oil. Many people make the mistake of assuming a zerk fitting implies the use of grease gun, but that is not the case. -- Max Heim '66 MGB > On Sep 18, 2019, at 9:28 AM, S. Carr via Mgs wrote: > > The autopsy on the frozen steering rack revealed that one of the bushings had seized on the shaft--judging by the amount/type of rust, the rack had not seen lubrication for many years, though some previous owner had been at the rack, as the boots were fastened with zip ties and not clamps. > > I confess that we never lubricated it, as access to the cover on the R&P is difficult, to say the least! My mechanic was thinking of drilling a hole & welding a grease fitting on a used replacement rack, but that one also was sticking near one end, so a new rack and tie rod ends are on order. That should last me the rest of my driving life with the car! > > Sarah Carr > '71 B/GT in PA > > -----Original Message----- From: Eric Russell > Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:26 PM > To: mgs at autox.team.net ; britfan1 at epix.net > Subject: Re: MGB rack&pinion needed > > Try disconnecting the tie rod ends and re-assessing. The MG rack & > pinion is quite sturdy. While it is possible the R&P could seize, I > think it more likely one or both kingpins would seize - especially if > the rubber seals have perished and it has not been greased regularly. > > Eric Russell > Mebane, NC >> 1. MGB rack&pinion needed (S. Carr) >> >> Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack for a 1970/71 B? Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous owner ever lubricated it.... >> >> Sarah Carr >> B/GT in PA > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Wed Sep 18 13:03:44 2019 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2019 21:03:44 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> Message-ID: <000701d56e53$cb1b90e0$6152b2a0$@planet.nl> SAE 90 type of oil it is. Same as the differential gearbox. Just my 2cts Cheers, Hans 71 BGT w/w no o/d nrg Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Max Heim via Mgs Verzonden: woensdag 18 september 2019 18:40 Aan: S. Carr; MG List Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed Remember, the racks are not greased ? they should filled with oil. Many people make the mistake of assuming a zerk fitting implies the use of grease gun, but that is not the case. -- Max Heim '66 MGB On Sep 18, 2019, at 9:28 AM, S. Carr via Mgs wrote: The autopsy on the frozen steering rack revealed that one of the bushings had seized on the shaft--judging by the amount/type of rust, the rack had not seen lubrication for many years, though some previous owner had been at the rack, as the boots were fastened with zip ties and not clamps. I confess that we never lubricated it, as access to the cover on the R&P is difficult, to say the least! My mechanic was thinking of drilling a hole & welding a grease fitting on a used replacement rack, but that one also was sticking near one end, so a new rack and tie rod ends are on order. That should last me the rest of my driving life with the car! Sarah Carr '71 B/GT in PA -----Original Message----- From: Eric Russell Sent: Saturday, August 31, 2019 2:26 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net ; britfan1 at epix.net Subject: Re: MGB rack&pinion needed Try disconnecting the tie rod ends and re-assessing. The MG rack & pinion is quite sturdy. While it is possible the R&P could seize, I think it more likely one or both kingpins would seize - especially if the rubber seals have perished and it has not been greased regularly. Eric Russell Mebane, NC 1. MGB rack&pinion needed (S. Carr) Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack for a 1970/71 B? Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous owner ever lubricated it.... Sarah Carr B/GT in PA _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mvheim at sonic.net --- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Sep 19 01:40:31 2019 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 08:40:31 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> Message-ID: Early racks did have an oiler fitting that looked like a grease fitting, the majority didn't. Replacement racks these days tend to come ready greased not oiled, said to be for 'life'. Not 'filled' as such, only 1/3rd Imperial pint, 0.19 litres or 0.39 US pint, it's almost impossible to keep the oil in them anyway. Cable ties may not be concourse but are perfectly acceptable for normal use ... and they don't rust. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- From: Max Heim via Mgs To: S. Carr ; MG List Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2019 5:40 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed Remember, the racks are not greased ? they should filled with oil. Many people make the mistake of assuming a zerk fitting implies the use of grease gun, but that is not the case. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From britfan1 at epix.net Thu Sep 19 07:32:15 2019 From: britfan1 at epix.net (S. Carr) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 09:32:15 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed In-Reply-To: References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> Message-ID: The fitting was intended for future fill-ups with oil; the plan had been to put one boot on the used rack, stand it up on end, and fill it full of 90W140 gear oil then put the other boot on. We will take Moss?s word that the new rack is ?greased for life?! Sarah From: PaulHunt73 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:40 AM To: S. Carr ; MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed Early racks did have an oiler fitting that looked like a grease fitting, the majority didn't. Replacement racks these days tend to come ready greased not oiled, said to be for 'life'. Not 'filled' as such, only 1/3rd Imperial pint, 0.19 litres or 0.39 US pint, it's almost impossible to keep the oil in them anyway. Cable ties may not be concourse but are perfectly acceptable for normal use ... and they don't rust. PaulH -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Thu Sep 19 09:02:42 2019 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2019 16:02:42 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed References: <34163c01-682d-8302-63d0-bc2f9a1da954@mebtel.net> <483CB17809764108AE64CFDB5AC0EC0D@HomePC> <5BB4F4C1-8D13-408F-9229-04CECE7ACC8A@sonic.net> Message-ID: I say again - for the benefit of others if nothing else - that one does not 'fill it full' of oil, no more than the quantities listed below, or you will burst the gaiters. And it should be differential oil, i.e. GL5, not gear oil GL4. ----- Original Message ----- The fitting was intended for future fill-ups with oil; the plan had been to put one boot on the used rack, stand it up on end, and fill it full of 90W140 gear oil then put the other boot on. We will take Moss?s word that the new rack is ?greased for life?! Sarah From: PaulHunt73 Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 3:40 AM To: S. Carr ; MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed Early racks did have an oiler fitting that looked like a grease fitting, the majority didn't. Replacement racks these days tend to come ready greased not oiled, said to be for 'life'. Not 'filled' as such, only 1/3rd Imperial pint, 0.19 litres or 0.39 US pint, it's almost impossible to keep the oil in them anyway. Cable ties may not be concourse but are perfectly acceptable for normal use ... and they don't rust. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rickfriz at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 14:20:42 2019 From: rickfriz at gmail.com (Richard Frisicano) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 16:20:42 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] 1972 MG-BGT Message-ID: I've been on these forums for 20 years so I know this is the place to come for advise. I have a 1972 MG-BGT for about 17 years. I need to get rid of it. I got it as a parts cars about 17 years ago. It has sat in my garage and I know now that I will never do anything with it. It is complete except for a gas tank. Body is in decent shape except for some rust around the rear wheel wells. Don't know about the rockers but my guess is some rust there as well. I do not have a title. That's why I bought it as a parts car. So, here is my question. I can easily junk it. I bought it for my love of MGs and I'd really rather see it go to someone who will use it. I have no interest in parting it out. I'm not looking to get any money for it. I just want it gone. Any suggestions on how I might find someone who is willing to come and get it and use it and not junk it. I'm located in Rochester, New York. As a courtesy to the groups, please reply just to me and do not reply to the groups. Rick Frisicano rickfriz at gnail.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From chillmog at sbcglobal.net Wed Sep 25 16:38:46 2019 From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:38:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] 1972 MG-BGT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7c9215a2-f7ae-3f12-b8b1-34b000c90e09@sbcglobal.net> Rick, The quickest and easiest thing would be to put it on the local Craig's list.?? Someone there will want it, especially if you say it is free! Charles HillOn 9/25/2019 3:20 PM, Richard Frisicano via Mgs wrote: > I've been on these forums for 20 years so I know this is the place to > come for advise.?? I have a 1972 MG-BGT for about 17 years.?? I need to > get rid of it.?? I got it as a parts cars about 17 years ago.?? It has > sat in my garage and I know now that I will never do anything with it. > It is complete except for a gas tank. Body is in decent shape except > for some rust around the rear wheel wells. Don't know about the > rockers but my guess is some rust there as well. I do not have a > title.?? That's why I bought it as a parts car. > > So, here is my question. I can easily junk it. I bought it for my love > of MGs and I'd really rather see it go to someone who will use it.?? I > have no interest in parting it out. I'm not looking to get any money > for it.?? I just want it gone.?? Any suggestions on how I might find > someone who is willing to come and get it and use it and not junk it.?? > I'm located in Rochester, New York. > > As a courtesy to the groups, please reply just to me and do not reply > to the groups. > > Rick Frisicano > rickfriz at gnail.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/chillmog at sbcglobal.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Wed Sep 25 18:32:52 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2019 19:32:52 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] 1972 MG-BGT In-Reply-To: <7c9215a2-f7ae-3f12-b8b1-34b000c90e09@sbcglobal.net> References: <7c9215a2-f7ae-3f12-b8b1-34b000c90e09@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Perhaps start with a quite attractive price, rather than free. The word 'free' implies worthless. On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 5:39 PM Charles Hill via Mgs wrote: > Rick, > The quickest and easiest thing would be to put it on the local Craig's > list.?? Someone there will want it, especially if you say it is free! > > Charles HillOn 9/25/2019 3:20 PM, Richard Frisicano via Mgs wrote: > > I've been on these forums for 20 years so I know this is the place to come > for advise.?? I have a 1972 MG-BGT for about 17 years.?? I need to get rid > of it.?? I got it as a parts cars about 17 years ago.?? It has sat in my > garage and I know now that I will never do anything with it. It is complete > except for a gas tank. Body is in decent shape except for some rust around > the rear wheel wells. Don't know about the rockers but my guess is some > rust there as well. I do not have a title.?? That's why I bought it as a > parts car. > > So, here is my question. I can easily junk it. I bought it for my love of > MGs and I'd really rather see it go to someone who will use it.?? I have no > interest in parting it out. I'm not looking to get any money for it.?? I > just want it gone.?? Any suggestions on how I might find someone who is > willing to come and get it and use it and not junk it.?? I'm located in > Rochester, New York. > > As a courtesy to the groups, please reply just to me and do not reply to > the groups. > > Rick Frisicano > rickfriz at gnail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/chillmog at sbcglobal.net > > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richardolindsay at gmail.com > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Name: image.png Type: image/png Size: 25268 bytes Desc: not available URL: From richardolindsay at gmail.com Fri Sep 27 14:05:54 2019 From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay) Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 15:05:54 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Quiet, and OT Message-ID: Hello Friends, I write today to report that my 1985 2.5 liter, V6 Maserati Biturbo E, number 011 of 250, is back together and working great! Picture attached, if that is now allowed. The pump is circulating coolant through the intercoolers just as it should do. This is the first time it has worked since I got the car. At that time, the control circuit was disconnected and the coolant was drained - both probably because of a leak in the right bank intercooler. The new and apparently smaller hoses, from the manifold to the intercoolers, is actually pretty large id but thin wall silicone hose, rated for far greater pressure than the 7psi system. Anyway, everything is together now with new intercoolers, new hoses, new clamps, and of course, new coolant. Great fun. Now back to your regularly scheduled silence. Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: 20190927_100626.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 3803212 bytes Desc: not available URL: From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Fri Sep 27 23:49:46 2019 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 07:49:46 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Quiet, and OT In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <000601d575c0$888732b0$99959810$@planet.nl> What a difference with our MGs. Lots of hose, crampy engine bay, complex design. Not a lot to mention here. The BGT?s paint is being detailed with a deep polish job by our oldest son. The result is amazing ? like a mirror. I am surprised. He explained to me, that all the years the car is with us, I covered it with a special BGT shaped cover cloth with the MG logo in de the cloth at the engine hood. He states this cloth caused thousands of tiny scratches making the paint look dull. Now the treated parts are covered with a wool blanket and we hope this does not cause that many scratches. Anyone with similar experience? Cheers, Hans Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Richard Lindsay via Mgs Verzonden: vrijdag 27 september 2019 22:06 Aan: MGs Onderwerp: [Mgs] Quiet, and OT Hello Friends, I write today to report that my 1985 2.5 liter, V6 Maserati Biturbo E, number 011 of 250, is back together and working great! Picture attached, if that is now allowed. The pump is circulating coolant through the intercoolers just as it should do. This is the first time it has worked since I got the car. At that time, the control circuit was disconnected and the coolant was drained - both probably because of a leak in the right bank intercooler. The new and apparently smaller hoses, from the manifold to the intercoolers, is actually pretty large id but thin wall silicone hose, rated for far greater pressure than the 7psi system. Anyway, everything is together now with new intercoolers, new hoses, new clamps, and of course, new coolant. Great fun. Now back to your regularly scheduled silence. Rick -- Dit e-mailbericht is gecontroleerd op virussen met Avast antivirussoftware. https://www.avast.com/antivirus -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com Sat Sep 28 02:15:21 2019 From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 09:15:21 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Quiet, and OT References: <000601d575c0$888732b0$99959810$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <1968EAC0C49A46AF946B70321127C250@paul> Covering with anything (other than air ...) is going to risk the same think happening again. Dragging a cover over a car that has any dust particles on the paint risks those tiny marks as dust is abrasive. Rolling the cover on is better but still not completely immune. I have a thick cotton cover that I'd put on the soft top, which had been folded in such a way that I could unfold the front, back and sides to lay it on the panels rather than dragging it. But I've not used that for many years, I found that over winter in the garage it would prevent air moving around and the interior got musty and even slight green mould on the steering wheel. Now in winter I leave the windows open and the roadster top up just in case the flat roof should start to leak as they all do eventually. Over time and use a layer of dust builds up and in low sunlight through the side window it really shows up, but on 30 year-old paint it doesn't really bother me and it just washes off prior to an event anyway. That paint has always shown the dust, it seems to attract it, whereas the V8 repainted a couple of years ago seems to stay dust-free. I still wouldn't drag a cover over it though. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- He states this cloth caused thousands of tiny scratches making the paint look dull. Now the treated parts are covered with a wool blanket and we hope this does not cause that many scratches. Anyone with similar experience? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From barrob at bell.net Sat Sep 28 09:29:55 2019 From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2019 11:29:55 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Quiet, and OT In-Reply-To: <000601d575c0$888732b0$99959810$@planet.nl> References: <000601d575c0$888732b0$99959810$@planet.nl> Message-ID: <32c92588-d802-df2b-46f4-16986a8e328a@bell.net> Hello folks I had my cover washed (big machine in one of those commercial places).? It has a soft inner so I don't see the difference between wiping with a soft cloth or with a CLEAN cover.?? I do wipe down the car with a dust picker upper before putting the cover on.? My paint is spectacular ! Barrie On 9/28/2019 1:49 AM, Hans Duinhoven via Mgs wrote: > > What a difference with our MGs. Lots of hose, crampy engine bay, > complex design. > > Not a lot to mention here. > > The BGT?s paint is being detailed with a deep polish job by our oldest > son. The result is amazing ? like a mirror. > > I am surprised. He explained to me, that all the years the car is with > us, I covered it with a special BGT shaped cover cloth with the MG > logo in de the cloth at the engine hood. > > He states this cloth caused thousands of tiny scratches making the > paint look dull. > > Now the treated parts are covered with a wool blanket and we hope this > does not cause that many scratches. > > Anyone with similar experience? > > Cheers, > > Hans > > *Van:*Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] *Namens *Richard Lindsay > via Mgs > *Verzonden:* vrijdag 27 september 2019 22:06 > *Aan:* MGs > *Onderwerp:* [Mgs] Quiet, and OT > > Hello Friends, > > ? ?I write today to report that my 1985 2.5 liter, V6 Maserati Biturbo > E, number 011 of 250, is back together and working great! Picture > attached, if that is now allowed. The pump is circulating coolant > through the intercoolers just as it should do. This is the first time > it has worked since I got the car. At that time, the control circuit > was disconnected and the coolant was drained - both probably because > of a leak in the right bank intercooler.?The new and apparently > smaller hoses, from the manifold to the intercoolers, is actually > pretty large id but thin wall silicone hose, rated for far greater > pressure than the 7psi system. > > ? ?Anyway, everything is together now with new intercoolers, new > hoses, new clamps, and of course, new coolant. Great fun. > > ? ?Now back to your regularly scheduled silence. > > Rick > > > > Virusvrij. www.avast.com > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrob at bell.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Alan From ricjohnsondm at msn.com Sun Sep 29 12:56:19 2019 From: ricjohnsondm at msn.com (Ric Johnson) Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2019 18:56:19 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 148, Issue 19 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Try gmail Get Outlook for Android ________________________________ From: Mgs on behalf of mgs-request at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, September 29, 2019 1:00:02 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Mgs Digest, Vol 148, Issue 19 Send Mgs mailing list submissions to mgs at autox.team.net To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to mgs-request at autox.team.net You can reach the person managing the list at mgs-owner at autox.team.net When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Mgs digest..." Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Today's Topics: 1. 72 MG BGT (alcostich at rpa.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2019 12:01:51 -0700 From: "" To: Subject: [Mgs] 72 MG BGT Message-ID: <20190927120151.63E36099 at m0117460.ppops.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I saw the message from Rick Frisicano about an MG BGT he wants gone. I attempted, per his request, to contact him directly at . Unfortunately, the eaddress comes back as unavailable.... 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Chesapeake, VA 23324 Phone: 757 543 3526 Cell: 630 240 0818 Email: rolds at plausa.com Sent with BlackBerry Work From: alcostich--- via Mgs > Date: Sunday, Sep 29, 2019, 12:20 To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: [Mgs] 72 MG BGT I saw the message from Rick Frisicano about an MG BGT he wants gone. I attempted, per his request, to contact him directly at . Unfortunately, the eaddress comes back as unavailable.... Alan _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/mgs http://autox.team.net/archive Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/rolds at plausa.com