[Mgs] Oil Additive

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Hi Frank,
    It’s unlikely that the 1980 catalyst is still catalysing; it’s probably been dead weight for years.  
   On the chart we saw this morning VR1 has 1400 ppm ZDDP, so that answer the question about ZDDP and a sufficiency thereof.  It should be fine to use in our engines.
  Is the cat needed in order to pass emissions in RI?   It was in CT, the visual part of inspection, though one of our members with a 1980 made one of a tomato juice can that he installed before inspections.  That passed the visual.  Tailpipe emissions passed easily w/o it, but they needed to see something that looked like a cat in order to pass the visual inspection.  
  My 1972, toward the end of the tailpipe checks, was passing easily. Some say that fuel within the past ten years will burn clean enough to pass. That’s my one-person experience. We no longer have tail-pipe checks in CT.
Bob


> On Jul 7, 2019, at 11:28 AM, FrankK via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I have been using 20-50 VR1 in my 80 MGBLE but I see from the website that you provided that it should not be used in cars with catalytic converters which my 80  MGB has. In fact, all of the recommended oils with zddp should not be used in cars with catalytic converters  so what should those of us with RBBs use? we need the zddp but not the added  aggravation  of concern about our cats?
> Frank Krajewski
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> From: Charley Robinson via Mgs
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2019 10:07 AM
> To: Chris Attias ; Mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>  
> Maybe you haven't looked hard enough.  I bought two quarts of 20W50 VR1 yesterday at my local Autozone.  The other local stores carry it too.  The first bullet on the back label calls it "High Performance/Racing Oil". Here's a blurb from Valvoline's website: https://sharena21.springcm.com/Public/Document/18452/18bdee61-0a7e-e711-9c10-ac162d889bd3/a61538b4-0cbd-e711-9c12-ac162d889bd1
> 
> I've been using  20W50 VR1 in my '69 MGB for the last 5 years or so.  I use synthetics in my newer cars.
> 
> CR
> 
> 
>> On 7/6/2019 10:01 PM, Chris Attias wrote:
>> I don't claim exhaustive knowledge about all racing oils. Valvoline VR1 is primarily made for racing, and I'd call it a specialty oil. Not something I've seen on the shelves at local auto parts stores. 
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>>> On Sat, Jul 6, 2019 at 6:40 PM Charley Robinson <Charley38 at twc.com> wrote:
>>> Sorry, I don't agree unless you see Valvoline as a specialty motor oil supplier.
>>> 
>>> CR
>>> 
>>>> On 7/6/2019 10:28 AM, Chris Attias wrote:
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>>>> As classifications change, old oil formulations become obsolete, the appropriate oil for flat tappet engines has become pretty much the product of specialty oil companies like Royal Purple, Driven/Joe Gibbs, Red Line, Lucas, and Collectors Choice (Moss).
>>>>  
>>>> Chris
>>>>  
>>>>> On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 10:32 PM Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>> I've been reading up on it to refresh my memory.  A lot of folks just take other peoples' word for it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> CR
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 7/5/2019 9:02 PM, Max Heim via Mgs wrote:
>>>>>> Only certain weights. You have to read the labels, or usually the spec sheets.
>>>>>>  
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Max Heim
>>>>>> mvheim at sonic.net
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>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> On Jul 5, 2019, at 6:15 PM, FrankK <frankk12 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> I assume all those brands include the correct ZDDP proportions./
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> From: Max Heim
>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 5, 2019 9:02 PM
>>>>>>> To: FrankK ; MG List
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Oil Additive
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Right, but there are other brands. I use Mobil1 15W50. Others use Royal Purple, Joe Gibbs, Kendall or AMSoil brands.
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Max Heim
>>>>>>> mvheim at sonic.net
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>>>>>> man/options/mgs/charley38 at twc.com
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>> Chris Attias
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