From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Aug  3 16:39:28 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 17:39:28 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Another LBC project, OT
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dzpeb2mHrP-8a8xLxD5G4j7Tgts7NMQX1ju2KhJqiyZiw@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friends,
   I write today to share news of project progress. But first, here is a
bit of back story. The car is a '75 TR6. Yea, I know. OT but similar to
issues we face with MGs.
   Everything mechanical is done on the car except for the rear brakes. All
suspension, front and rear, has been removed, cleaned, refinished and
reinstalled with new bushings. New dampers are installed. New brake
calipers, new slave cylinders, new pads and shoes too. The rotors and brake
drums are turned to resurface and true. New front hydraulic pipes and hoses
are installed. The engine is restored and very strong. The clutch, gearbox,
prop shaft, and third member are all tested good. Aftermarket but
period-correct alloy wheels have been media blasted and powder coated and
sport new tires. Lug nuts and washers are getting powder coated (black)
this week. The car is now about ready to go to the paint shop. End of
backstory.
   The rear brake hydraulic bits are all restored except for painting the
cleaned brake pipes - the NLA ones that are not to be replaced. Those pipes
have been flushed clean with brake cleaner then blown dry. After degreasing
and cleaning the exterior with ScotchBrite, the pipe metal is vulnerable to
corrosion/rust. I will just paint the pipes gray. The other new pipes and
flex hoses are due to arrive Monday. Reassembly will begin then. After a
final bleed, the car will be ready for Carmine Red paint.

Rick
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Aug  3 16:52:46 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2019 17:52:46 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Another LBC project, OT
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dzpeb2mHrP-8a8xLxD5G4j7Tgts7NMQX1ju2KhJqiyZiw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dzpeb2mHrP-8a8xLxD5G4j7Tgts7NMQX1ju2KhJqiyZiw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dxzqR49uWA61UfUtvFKH_WyQ303NZWD1xgrSJ_rQskf1Q@mail.gmail.com>

Here are the period-correct wheels on my car.

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20171108_104056.jpg

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:39 PM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello friends,
>    I write today to share news of project progress. But first, here is a
> bit of back story. The car is a '75 TR6. Yea, I know. OT but similar to
> issues we face with MGs.
>    Everything mechanical is done on the car except for the rear brakes.
> All suspension, front and rear, has been removed, cleaned, refinished and
> reinstalled with new bushings. New dampers are installed. New brake
> calipers, new slave cylinders, new pads and shoes too. The rotors and brake
> drums are turned to resurface and true. New front hydraulic pipes and hoses
> are installed. The engine is restored and very strong. The clutch, gearbox,
> prop shaft, and third member are all tested good. Aftermarket but
> period-correct alloy wheels have been media blasted and powder coated and
> sport new tires. Lug nuts and washers are getting powder coated (black)
> this week. The car is now about ready to go to the paint shop. End of
> backstory.
>    The rear brake hydraulic bits are all restored except for painting the
> cleaned brake pipes - the NLA ones that are not to be replaced. Those pipes
> have been flushed clean with brake cleaner then blown dry. After degreasing
> and cleaning the exterior with ScotchBrite, the pipe metal is vulnerable to
> corrosion/rust. I will just paint the pipes gray. The other new pipes and
> flex hoses are due to arrive Monday. Reassembly will begin then. After a
> final bleed, the car will be ready for Carmine Red paint.
>
> Rick
>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Aug  4 08:42:42 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2019 10:42:42 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Another LBC project, OT
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dxzqR49uWA61UfUtvFKH_WyQ303NZWD1xgrSJ_rQskf1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dzpeb2mHrP-8a8xLxD5G4j7Tgts7NMQX1ju2KhJqiyZiw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOc+-dxzqR49uWA61UfUtvFKH_WyQ303NZWD1xgrSJ_rQskf1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+m+8MYx462uOVm23x5YAkUWNH_evQBtCy+NocjQrMDwZQ@mail.gmail.com>

The wheels are nice, but I have to say that I prefer the look of the stock
disc wheels on the TR6. They have a nice 'beefy' look to them.

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Aug 3, 2019 at 6:53 PM Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Here are the period-correct wheels on my car.
>
> http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20171108_104056.jpg
>
> On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:39 PM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello friends,
>>    I write today to share news of project progress. But first, here is a
>> bit of back story. The car is a '75 TR6. Yea, I know. OT but similar to
>> issues we face with MGs.
>>    Everything mechanical is done on the car except for the rear brakes.
>> All suspension, front and rear, has been removed, cleaned, refinished and
>> reinstalled with new bushings. New dampers are installed. New brake
>> calipers, new slave cylinders, new pads and shoes too. The rotors and brake
>> drums are turned to resurface and true. New front hydraulic pipes and hoses
>> are installed. The engine is restored and very strong. The clutch, gearbox,
>> prop shaft, and third member are all tested good. Aftermarket but
>> period-correct alloy wheels have been media blasted and powder coated and
>> sport new tires. Lug nuts and washers are getting powder coated (black)
>> this week. The car is now about ready to go to the paint shop. End of
>> backstory.
>>    The rear brake hydraulic bits are all restored except for painting the
>> cleaned brake pipes - the NLA ones that are not to be replaced. Those pipes
>> have been flushed clean with brake cleaner then blown dry. After degreasing
>> and cleaning the exterior with ScotchBrite, the pipe metal is vulnerable to
>> corrosion/rust. I will just paint the pipes gray. The other new pipes and
>> flex hoses are due to arrive Monday. Reassembly will begin then. After a
>> final bleed, the car will be ready for Carmine Red paint.
>>
>> Rick
>>
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>
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Aug  5 05:50:47 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2019 06:50:47 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] OT, because its too quiet
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwkS1f+q_0UASD=HXxpki1bQyrpFjZqo3_EKnCi6un8+w@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Friends,

   Its very quiet here now. I have a few words to share, breaking that
silence. First a plan for the Maserati Biturbo and second, an update on the
other project eating my retirement hours: my TR6.
   In a few days, my wife and I are attending a destination wedding
followed shortly thereafter by a short cruise. In total I will be away from
the shop for 11 days. My car work is necessarily going on hold. Before that
hiatus begins I will exercise, or at least start and warm up all of my cars
as I have done semi-religiously.

   The professional shop that said they would diagnose and repair my
Biturbo, has quit returning my calls. I can only assume that they do not
want the work. That's okay. Money saved. I have other plans.
   As I wrote earlier, I intend to remove the engine from my parts car.
With the engine on the engine stand, access to it's turbos will be much
simpler. This exercise will also familiarize myself with the extraction
peculiarities, useful later when I service my 35k miles car.
   I have also purchased a used oil cooled turbo from a 2.5 liter Biturbo.
The ebay cost was marginally less than the rebuild kit that I purchased
earlier from Lenny at Auto-Italia. I will rebuild this unit in advance of
retrieving the two turbos from the parts car. At the very least, doing so
will be a learning exercise.

   In other news; Work on my Triumph TR6 is once again on hold. Every
mechanical system on the car is restored except for the rear brake
hydraulics. With mostly new or freshened parts in hand I began reassembly
yesterday morning. All went well until I attached the cross pipe to the
two-way distribution block. The steel pipe fitting threaded in okay but as
I snugged the bubble flair fitting down, the brass threads in the block cut
free and the fitting became loose once again. The distribution block is
damaged beyond repair. Fortunately, this is one of the parts that is
available in the spares market. $23 later, a new block is on order and on
its way. A further $16 invested and a new cross pipe is coming too. New
threads to mate with new threads.

   That's it from north-west Houston. Perhaps after I tire from these other
quests I'll get the head (top) on my TD! Then again, there are those four
side screens to recover...

Rick
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Tue Aug  6 11:35:20 2019
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2019 19:35:20 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] Another LBC project, OT
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dxzqR49uWA61UfUtvFKH_WyQ303NZWD1xgrSJ_rQskf1Q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dzpeb2mHrP-8a8xLxD5G4j7Tgts7NMQX1ju2KhJqiyZiw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAOc+-dxzqR49uWA61UfUtvFKH_WyQ303NZWD1xgrSJ_rQskf1Q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005c01d54c7d$51f71d30$f5e55790$@planet.nl>

Looks like Wolfrace rims ? right?

 

Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT NRG WW no OD

 

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Richard Lindsay via Mgs
Verzonden: zondag 4 augustus 2019 0:53
Aan: MGs
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] Another LBC project, OT

 

Here are the period-correct wheels on my car.

 

http://aubard.us/75_Triumph/20171108_104056.jpg

On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 5:39 PM Richard Lindsay <richardolindsay at gmail.com> wrote:

Hello friends,

   I write today to share news of project progress. But first, here is a bit of back story. The car is a '75 TR6. Yea, I know. OT but similar to issues we face with MGs.

   Everything mechanical is done on the car except for the rear brakes. All suspension, front and rear, has been removed, cleaned, refinished and reinstalled with new bushings. New dampers are installed. New brake calipers, new slave cylinders, new pads and shoes too. The rotors and brake drums are turned to resurface and true. New front hydraulic pipes and hoses are installed. The engine is restored and very strong. The clutch, gearbox, prop shaft, and third member are all tested good. Aftermarket but period-correct alloy wheels have been media blasted and powder coated and sport new tires. Lug nuts and washers are getting powder coated (black) this week. The car is now about ready to go to the paint shop. End of backstory.

   The rear brake hydraulic bits are all restored except for painting the cleaned brake pipes - the NLA ones that are not to be replaced. Those pipes have been flushed clean with brake cleaner then blown dry. After degreasing and cleaning the exterior with ScotchBrite, the pipe metal is vulnerable to corrosion/rust. I will just paint the pipes gray. The other new pipes and flex hoses are due to arrive Monday. Reassembly will begin then. After a final bleed, the car will be ready for Carmine Red paint.

 

Rick



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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Aug  7 11:16:00 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 12:16:00 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] weird brake issue
Message-ID: <000001d54d43$c8fe1520$5afa3f60$@ranteer.com>

A few weeks ago I posted about a weird brake issue, where an mga would be
fine during a test drive except just once the brakes would essentially fail.
Otherwise all would go well.

 

Several test drives with one failure each time even after bleeding and
tightening the brakes.  At one point the left front wheel locked up.  took
the hub off and discovered that the brake shoes themselves had separated
from their backing/holders.  We think this allowed the brake cylinder to
hyper extend and cause the pedal to hit the floor.  

 

New brake shoes on the way!!!

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From ddarby at centurytel.net  Wed Aug  7 11:35:06 2019
From: ddarby at centurytel.net (David F. Darby)
Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 12:35:06 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] weird brake issue
In-Reply-To: <000001d54d43$c8fe1520$5afa3f60$@ranteer.com>
References: <000001d54d43$c8fe1520$5afa3f60$@ranteer.com>
Message-ID: <018001d54d46$748e25e0$5daa71a0$@centurytel.net>

Glad you found it the problem. That's a new one for me.

 

David

 

From: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of dave via Mgs
Sent: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 12:16 PM
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] weird brake issue

 

A few weeks ago I posted about a weird brake issue, where an mga would be
fine during a test drive except just once the brakes would essentially fail.
Otherwise all would go well.

 

Several test drives with one failure each time even after bleeding and
tightening the brakes.  At one point the left front wheel locked up.  took
the hub off and discovered that the brake shoes themselves had separated
from their backing/holders.  We think this allowed the brake cylinder to
hyper extend and cause the pedal to hit the floor.  

 

New brake shoes on the way!!!

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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Thu Aug  8 18:14:54 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 19:14:54 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>

Any if you seen this vehicle? No, I have just less than 0% interest in
owning it but it is interesting.

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobile/China-owned-British-brand-MG-launches-pickup-in-Thailand

Rick
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From mvheim at sonic.net  Thu Aug  8 18:28:16 2019
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2019 17:28:16 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>

Just dumb. It?s like the Chinese bicycle I bought ? it bears the brand name of a long-defunct British bicycle manufacturer. No relation, they just bought the rights to the name cheap.

<sigh>

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Any if you seen this vehicle? No, I have just less than 0% interest in owning it but it is interesting.
> 
> https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobile/China-owned-British-brand-MG-launches-pickup-in-Thailand <https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobile/China-owned-British-brand-MG-launches-pickup-in-Thailand>
> 
> Rick

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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 05:26:03 2019
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 07:26:03 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <F3264480-E786-4B69-A55F-E679BA5A4040@gmail.com>

   Max?s Chinese-built British-name bike response made me curious. A quick Google lookup finds in the UK:  Pashley, Brompton, Shand and Enigma as bicycle manufacturers, Brooks still making saddles, and a host of component manufacturers.  
   My wife?s bicycle, kept from junior high school years, is a Raleigh, made in Nottingham, girl?s frame, chain fully enclosed, with Sturmey-Archer three-speed.  It is possibly the smoothest bike I have ridden. Too bad for me that it is short, saddle-to-handlebars, as it is so comfortable to ride. 
Bob


> On Aug 8, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Just dumb. It?s like the Chinese bicycle I bought ? it bears the brand name of a long-defunct British bicycle manufacturer. No relation, they just bought the rights to the name cheap.
> 
> <sigh>
> 
> --
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB
> 
>> On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
>> 
>> Any if you seen this vehicle? No, I have just less than 0% interest in owning it but it is interesting.
>> 
>> https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobile/China-owned-British-brand-MG-launches-pickup-in-Thailand
>> 
>> Rick
> 
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  9 06:38:26 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 07:38:26 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <F3264480-E786-4B69-A55F-E679BA5A4040@gmail.com>
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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  9 12:19:18 2019
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 18:19:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>

On Thursday, August 8, 2019, 5:28:27 PM PDT, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote: 

> Just dumb. It?s like the Chinese bicycle I bought ? it bears the brand name of a 
> long-defunct British bicycle manufacturer. No relation, they just bought the rights 
> to the name cheap.<sigh>

There's more to it than that.? SAIC did buy the MG company and a lot
of the tooling from the executives who had bought it from BMW, and
has been selling cars in Europe for several years.? A better analogy 
might be Jeep.


From mvheim at sonic.net  Fri Aug  9 12:30:26 2019
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 11:30:26 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
 <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <F03BCBD8-C77E-4272-AFEE-CBB0DF2750D0@sonic.net>

Yes, we know they bought what was left of the company, so they did come by the trademark legitimately. But you can?t tell me that this pickup truck has any actual content left over from the UK version of the company.

I think it is mainly an example of this cultural tendency of Asian corporations to adopt English-language trademarks and brand names for perceived prestige, even if their customer base cannot be expected to be aware of the original derivation. Really, how many Chinese truck customers know that the MG sports car even existed? No more than they know that the Dawes bicycle existed.

--
Max Heim
'66 MGB


> On Aug 9, 2019, at 11:19 AM, David Breneman via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> On Thursday, August 8, 2019, 5:28:27 PM PDT, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote: 
> 
>> Just dumb. It?s like the Chinese bicycle I bought ? it bears the brand name of a 
>> long-defunct British bicycle manufacturer. No relation, they just bought the rights 
>> to the name cheap.<sigh>
> 
> There's more to it than that.  SAIC did buy the MG company and a lot
> of the tooling from the executives who had bought it from BMW, and
> has been selling cars in Europe for several years.  A better analogy 
> might be Jeep.
> 
> _______________________________________________

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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Fri Aug  9 15:05:02 2019
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 21:05:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <F03BCBD8-C77E-4272-AFEE-CBB0DF2750D0@sonic.net>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
 <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>
 <F03BCBD8-C77E-4272-AFEE-CBB0DF2750D0@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <1498743370.3466807.1565384702769@mail.yahoo.com>

On Friday, August 9, 2019, 11:30:29 AM PDT, Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net> wrote: 

> Yes, we know they bought what was left of the company, so they did come by the 
> trademark legitimately. But you can?t tell me that this pickup truck has any actual 
> content left over from the UK version of the company.

I never tried to.? I thought we were talking about the corporate pedigree,
not the mechanical one.? I doubt that current Jeeps have any content left
over from the Willys version either.? Even if MG was still based in Britain,
it's doubtful that their current products would have any commonality with
the cars sold in the US up to 1980.



From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 15:19:38 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 17:19:38 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <1498743370.3466807.1565384702769@mail.yahoo.com>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
 <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>
 <F03BCBD8-C77E-4272-AFEE-CBB0DF2750D0@sonic.net>
 <1498743370.3466807.1565384702769@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+kC0JvmZDb326XvHx3Ko=6vz6t6MeMNEv5BJX7-7NOobg@mail.gmail.com>

Well, I don't know about that, David.....! ;-)

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 5:06 PM David Breneman via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> On Friday, August 9, 2019, 11:30:29 AM PDT, Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, we know they bought what was left of the company, so they did come
> by the
> > trademark legitimately. But you can?t tell me that this pickup truck has
> any actual
> > content left over from the UK version of the company.
>
> I never tried to.  I thought we were talking about the corporate pedigree,
> not the mechanical one.  I doubt that current Jeeps have any content left
> over from the Willys version either.  Even if MG was still based in
> Britain,
> it's doubtful that their current products would have any commonality with
> the cars sold in the US up to 1980.
>
>
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From thgun at comporium.net  Fri Aug  9 19:50:02 2019
From: thgun at comporium.net (Thomas Gunderson)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 21:50:02 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
Message-ID: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>



Sent from my iPhone X

When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the boot that had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver domed bolt. I got a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in my boot did not lineup with the rack from Moss. I have the correct style rack for the car. So the last owner had a smaller rack.
Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill four more holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it? 

Tom Gunderson
1957 MGA 1500 rst




From charleyrob at gmail.com  Fri Aug  9 20:36:08 2019
From: charleyrob at gmail.com (Robinson Charley)
Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2019 22:36:08 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
In-Reply-To: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
References: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
Message-ID: <C760E1A7-A4F6-4671-9F77-2DFA84D80400@gmail.com>

My preference is no rack - I just like the cleaner lines of the car without it!

Charley Robinson
1962 MGA MkII, 1954 MG TF

> On Aug 9, 2019, at 9:50 PM, Thomas Gunderson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone X
> 
> When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the boot that had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver domed bolt. I got a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in my boot did not lineup with the rack from Moss. I have the correct style rack for the car. So the last owner had a smaller rack.
> Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill four more holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it? 
> 
> Tom Gunderson
> 1957 MGA 1500 rst
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
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From strovato at optonline.net  Fri Aug  9 20:47:20 2019
From: strovato at optonline.net (Steven Trovato)
Date: Fri, 09 Aug 2019 22:47:20 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
In-Reply-To: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
References: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
Message-ID: <BF.DB.17549.6903E4D5@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

My vote is to leave it off, unless you take a lot of trips where you 
really want the rack to carry luggage.  I prefer the look of the car 
without it.

-Steve

At 09:50 PM 8/9/2019, Thomas Gunderson via Mgs wrote:


>Sent from my iPhone X
>
>When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the boot 
>that had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver domed 
>bolt. I got a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in my boot 
>did not lineup with the rack from Moss. I have the correct style 
>rack for the car. So the last owner had a smaller rack.
>Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill four 
>more holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it?
>
>Tom Gunderson
>1957 MGA 1500 rst


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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Aug 10 03:54:46 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 10:54:46 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <78672B80F0EE43EBB7C0B4FDB5706CE7@paul>

That one hasn't but the models sold in Europe do have UK content as the company still has a presence on the Longbridge site used to manufacture the ZR, ZS and ZT cars of 2001 to 2005, and when BMW owned the rights before that, and going back to Herbert Austin.  Engine, steering and suspension settings for European models is done in the UK and is different to those sold in Asia.  Ironic, really, as Abingdon was never a manufacturing plant only final assembly, and the whole thing started with Kimber tweaking Morris engine, steering and suspension settings.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  Yes, we know they bought what was left of the company, so they did come by the trademark legitimately. But you can?t tell me that this pickup truck has any actual content left over from the UK version of the company.
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sat Aug 10 06:53:52 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 08:53:52 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
In-Reply-To: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
References: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+k=tV8LGV1KqDEstOaAoSaO-ke7jmpn==aHm0fvjpEZXA@mail.gmail.com>

My B was the same, it came with a crappy luggage rack that was rusted, so I
removed it and left the bolts in. I also don't like the look of it and
don't need the extra carrying capacity. Always intended to source a used
trunk lid and replace it but never made it to the top (or even near the
top) of my to-do list.

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:50 PM Thomas Gunderson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone X
>
> When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the boot that
> had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver domed bolt. I got
> a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in my boot did not lineup with
> the rack from Moss. I have the correct style rack for the car. So the last
> owner had a smaller rack.
> Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill four more
> holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it?
>
> Tom Gunderson
> 1957 MGA 1500 rst
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sat Aug 10 06:55:12 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 08:55:12 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <78672B80F0EE43EBB7C0B4FDB5706CE7@paul>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <CABxEc+k8fkymHFodeEopVqDNomCgO+Bs13aS18nvdhL=BR19jQ@mail.gmail.com>

You have or had one of those, right, Paul?

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 6:24 AM PaulHunt73 via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> That one hasn't but the models sold in Europe do have UK content as the
> company still has a presence on the Longbridge site used to manufacture the
> ZR, ZS and ZT cars of 2001 to 2005, and when BMW owned the rights before
> that, and going back to Herbert Austin.  Engine, steering and suspension
> settings for European models is done in the UK and is different to those
> sold in Asia.  Ironic, really, as Abingdon was never a manufacturing plant
> only final assembly, and the whole thing started with Kimber tweaking
> Morris engine, steering and suspension settings.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> Yes, we know they bought what was left of the company, so they did come by
> the trademark legitimately. But you can?t tell me that this pickup truck
> has any actual content left over from the UK version of the company.
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Aug 10 07:21:05 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 14:21:05 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <521830DFB4A44768855207BF452926D0@paul>

2004 ZS180 for 12 years, this year it qualifies for 'classic' insurance.  Parts getting difficult to obtain now.  Whilst some are common to the Rover 45 and even the Honda predecessor, some are ZS specific, some 180 specific, and the rear exhaust box is different for saloon and hatchback!  As of the end of 2018 there were only 61 left on UK roads with 44 still registered but not in use.

I've looked at the Chinese MG3 and MG6 saloons but they are bit puny, and their version of the ZS is an SUV (like everything else here these days) so much larger, but powered by a 1 litre turbo of 111PS, or a 1.5 naturally aspirated of 106PS, so even punier.

Looks like 'something else' when the ZS bites the dust.

Paul.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan DiBiase 
  To: PaulHunt73 
  Cc: MG List 
  Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 1:55 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG pickup


  You have or had one of those, right, Paul?


  Dan D
  Central NJ USA

  http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
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From Charley38 at twc.com  Sat Aug 10 12:56:22 2019
From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 13:56:22 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+k=tV8LGV1KqDEstOaAoSaO-ke7jmpn==aHm0fvjpEZXA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
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Message-ID: <20c1c2de-0cad-76b3-e8a3-414f261e3b7d@twc.com>

I have one on my B.? Used the hell out of it on a camping trip to CA.? 
Still use it now and then.

CR

On 8/10/2019 7:53 AM, Dan DiBiase via Mgs wrote:
> My B was the same, it came with a crappy luggage rack that was rusted, 
> so I removed it and left the bolts in. I also don't like the look of 
> it and don't need the extra carrying capacity. Always intended to 
> source a used trunk lid and replace it but never made it to the top 
> (or even near the top) of my to-do list.
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2019 at 9:50 PM Thomas Gunderson via Mgs 
> <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     Sent from my iPhone X
>
>     When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the
>     boot that had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver
>     domed bolt. I got a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in
>     my boot did not lineup with the rack from Moss. I have the correct
>     style rack for the car. So the last owner had a smaller rack.
>     Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill
>     four more holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it?
>
>     Tom Gunderson
>     1957 MGA 1500 rst
>
>
>
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>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sat Aug 10 13:43:18 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 15:43:18 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <521830DFB4A44768855207BF452926D0@paul>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
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 <1238483054.3391767.1565374758544@mail.yahoo.com>
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 <78672B80F0EE43EBB7C0B4FDB5706CE7@paul>
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Message-ID: <CABxEc+kC_p8Z2T2_fBqBAvDO0ZoWoUaC73dqwBBE0QngsiegZQ@mail.gmail.com>

Good looking car. I assume your is a limited-edition model to be relatively
rare...?

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 9:38 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> 2004 ZS180 for 12 years, this year it qualifies for 'classic' insurance.
> Parts getting difficult to obtain now.  Whilst some are common to the Rover
> 45 and even the Honda predecessor, some are ZS specific, some 180 specific,
> and the rear exhaust box is different for saloon and hatchback!  As of the
> end of 2018 there were only 61 left on UK roads with 44 still registered
> but not in use.
>
> I've looked at the Chinese MG3 and MG6 saloons but they are bit puny, and
> their version of the ZS is an SUV (like everything else here these days) so
> much larger, but powered by a 1 litre turbo of 111PS, or a 1.5 naturally
> aspirated of 106PS, so even punier.
>
> Looks like 'something else' when the ZS bites the dust.
>
> Paul.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Dan DiBiase <dan.dibiase at gmail.com>
> *To:* PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> *Cc:* MG List <mgs at autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, August 10, 2019 1:55 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] MG pickup
>
> You have or had one of those, right, Paul?
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sun Aug 11 03:42:08 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 10:42:08 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
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Message-ID: <5629D07B5A554402A6F3519A0E3F74B1@paul>

'Rare', which doesn't translate to 'valuable' - yet at any rate!  Only worth about ?2k/$2400.  I could get double that in 'scrappage' if I swapped it for a new Vauxhall, but who wants one of those? :o)

Paul.

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dan DiBiase 
  To: PaulHunt73 
  Cc: MG List 
  Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2019 8:43 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] MG pickup


  Good looking car. I assume your is a limited-edition model to be relatively rare...?


  Dan D
  Central NJ USA

  http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 11 05:28:54 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 06:28:54 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <5629D07B5A554402A6F3519A0E3F74B1@paul>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sun Aug 11 08:09:06 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:09:06 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
References: <760be6e3-d492-47e3-9452-66705f71b04f@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>

With you there.  One of the things I hate about modern cars is that they are so 'competent' aka boring.  Our daughter had a new MINI and if it hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I wouldn't have known we were moving.  I blame the manufacturers for reducing the driving experience to that of sitting on a sofa watching TV, and of drivers paying the same amount of attention to their driving.  Time and time again car shows where they have any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into a classic and rave about the experience.  One of the things that surprised me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001 was just how involving it was.  It'll have to go one day, and I'll be sorry when that happens.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
     Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems.
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 11 08:32:17 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>
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From Charley38 at twc.com  Sun Aug 11 08:52:44 2019
From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 09:52:44 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
References: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
Message-ID: <dc66528e-f809-26b1-f9f6-8a94027bff31@twc.com>

My daily driver during the last few years of my working life was a 1970 
MGB.? I don't recall it ever getting ho-hum to drive. Shouldn't have 
sold it.......

CR

On 8/11/2019 9:32 AM, Rick via Mgs wrote:
> Paul, my wife drives a livingroom (lounge) with a steering wheel. My 
> daily is a 16-year-old Land Rover Discovery with 153k miles on the clock.
>
> On Aug 11, 2019 9:09 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
>     ?
>     With you there.? One of the things I hate about modern cars is
>     that they are so 'competent' aka boring.? Our daughter had a new
>     MINI and if it hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I
>     wouldn't have known we were moving.? I blame the manufacturers for
>     reducing the driving experience to that of sitting on a sofa
>     watching TV, and of drivers paying the same amount of attention to
>     their driving. Time and time again car shows where they have any
>     number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into a
>     classic and rave about the experience.? One of the things
>     that?surprised?me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001
>     was just how involving?it was.? It'll have to go one day, and I'll
>     be sorry when that happens.
>
>         ----- Original Message -----
>         ???Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because
>         they're quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by
>         its very nature is a subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love
>         dynamic systems.
>
>
>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Aug 11 12:56:57 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:56:57 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>
References: <760be6e3-d492-47e3-9452-66705f71b04f@email.android.com>
 <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+naafaqk7xtdCtGNp85HUywKbesWqd+-cW=NkhwHFzq5w@mail.gmail.com>

Interesting you mention that MINI.... We have a 2009 MINI Cooper Hardtop
with a 6-speed manual that is actually great fun to drive. I just got back
from doing some errands with it, and had forgotten how great the exhaust
note is, windows up or down (like I had them today). Handles great, even in
non-S spec. My wife drives it to and from work and enjoys it as well. Only
reason I don't drive it more is the relatively weak A/C, compared to my
Mazda CX-5, and the vinyl seats that are brutal in the summer. As I'm a
Realtor, I need a roomier vehicle, and not showing up to appointments
soaked in sweat is always a good idea. ;-)

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
wrote:

> With you there.  One of the things I hate about modern cars is that they
> are so 'competent' aka boring.  Our daughter had a new MINI and if it
> hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I wouldn't have known we
> were moving.  I blame the manufacturers for reducing the driving experience
> to that of sitting on a sofa watching TV, and of drivers paying the same
> amount of attention to their driving.  Time and time again car shows where
> they have any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into
> a classic and rave about the experience.  One of the things
> that surprised me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001 was just
> how involving it was.  It'll have to go one day, and I'll be sorry when
> that happens.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>    Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're
> quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a
> subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems.
>
>
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Sun Aug 11 13:09:07 2019
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 12:09:07 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <CABxEc+naafaqk7xtdCtGNp85HUywKbesWqd+-cW=NkhwHFzq5w@mail.gmail.com>
References: <760be6e3-d492-47e3-9452-66705f71b04f@email.android.com>
 <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>
 <CABxEc+naafaqk7xtdCtGNp85HUywKbesWqd+-cW=NkhwHFzq5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CABXhz88hHniFRKhCNtTB8fX8X5XF3o_5YHW8ngC8btvTXZuytQ@mail.gmail.com>

My 2009 S countryman was a hoot to drive. Just too damn expensive to
repair. $425.00 thermostat housing.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 12:07 PM Dan DiBiase via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Interesting you mention that MINI.... We have a 2009 MINI Cooper Hardtop
> with a 6-speed manual that is actually great fun to drive. I just got back
> from doing some errands with it, and had forgotten how great the exhaust
> note is, windows up or down (like I had them today). Handles great, even in
> non-S spec. My wife drives it to and from work and enjoys it as well. Only
> reason I don't drive it more is the relatively weak A/C, compared to my
> Mazda CX-5, and the vinyl seats that are brutal in the summer. As I'm a
> Realtor, I need a roomier vehicle, and not showing up to appointments
> soaked in sweat is always a good idea. ;-)
>
> Dan D
> Central NJ USA
> http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 10:16 AM PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> wrote:
>
>> With you there.  One of the things I hate about modern cars is that they
>> are so 'competent' aka boring.  Our daughter had a new MINI and if it
>> hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I wouldn't have known we
>> were moving.  I blame the manufacturers for reducing the driving experience
>> to that of sitting on a sofa watching TV, and of drivers paying the same
>> amount of attention to their driving.  Time and time again car shows where
>> they have any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into
>> a classic and rave about the experience.  One of the things
>> that surprised me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001 was just
>> how involving it was.  It'll have to go one day, and I'll be sorry when
>> that happens.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>    Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're
>> quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a
>> subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>
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From barrob at bell.net  Sun Aug 11 13:19:47 2019
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:19:47 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <dc66528e-f809-26b1-f9f6-8a94027bff31@twc.com>
References: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
 <dc66528e-f809-26b1-f9f6-8a94027bff31@twc.com>
Message-ID: <5fbb3a14-da30-c060-6648-0adabd85eca6@bell.net>

Hello folks,

If you really want boring how about the current offerings of car 
radios.? I put a one into my MGB GT V8 and got a Pioneer because it had 
a remote USB at the end of a cable so I can put the flash drive in my 
glove box.? I only listen to 91.5FM and 99.1 FM because they have NO 
adverts (CBC).? When I drove out with my newly installed radio I found 
to my horror that because these stations had a weak signal /I could not 
get them! /But when I got back to the car radio install company they 
could not understand my problem pointing out that I now had Spotify, 
Pandora, Sirius, Bluetooth, ability to use my cell phone into the radio 
(WHY???), have different colours for the display, etc, etc,etc.? There 
was only ONE page in the 33 page manual devoted to radio !!!!!!!??? So 
my MGB is now a mobile communication centre with a *iss poor radio.?? 
But to end this all, I bought a cheap portable for my garage (listen to 
non commercial stations of course) and for fun tried it in my MGB - it 
worked perfectly !!!!!!

On 8/11/2019 10:52 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs wrote:
> My daily driver during the last few years of my working life was a 
> 1970 MGB.? I don't recall it ever getting ho-hum to drive. Shouldn't 
> have sold it.......
>
> CR
>
> On 8/11/2019 9:32 AM, Rick via Mgs wrote:
>> Paul, my wife drives a livingroom (lounge) with a steering wheel. My 
>> daily is a 16-year-old Land Rover Discovery with 153k miles on the clock.
>>
>> On Aug 11, 2019 9:09 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>>
>>     ?
>>     With you there.? One of the things I hate about modern cars is
>>     that they are so 'competent' aka boring.? Our daughter had a new
>>     MINI and if it hadn't been for the scenery going past the window
>>     I wouldn't have known we were moving.? I blame the manufacturers
>>     for reducing the driving experience to that of sitting on a sofa
>>     watching TV, and of drivers paying the same amount of attention
>>     to their driving.? Time and time again car shows where they have
>>     any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into
>>     a classic and rave about the experience.? One of the things
>>     that?surprised?me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in
>>     2001 was just how involving?it was.? It'll have to go one day,
>>     and I'll be sorry when that happens.
>>
>>         ----- Original Message -----
>>         ???Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because
>>         they're quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by
>>         its very nature is a subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love
>>         dynamic systems.
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>>
>> Mgs at autox.team.net
>> Donate:http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Sun Aug 11 13:39:37 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:39:37 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <5fbb3a14-da30-c060-6648-0adabd85eca6@bell.net>
References: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
 <dc66528e-f809-26b1-f9f6-8a94027bff31@twc.com>
 <5fbb3a14-da30-c060-6648-0adabd85eca6@bell.net>
Message-ID: <CABxEc+nxWZpMzs30N_0Pw5VHs4NzY0QtGvMpBUr3PUKFKX=Dhw@mail.gmail.com>

Barrie, I know it seems counter-intuitive, but if you use the radio.com app
on your phone (free download) then perhaps you can pick up those stations
via streaming..... No signal issues then. Assuming radio.com is available
in Canada, and has those stations. If not them, then perhaps IHeartRadio
app might.

I use radio.com to listen to WFAN (sports talk from NYC) when driving
around Central NJ as the reception isn't so hot, even on AM.

Dan D
Central NJ USA
http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 3:20 PM Barrie Robinson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello folks,
>
> If you really want boring how about the current offerings of car radios.
> I put a one into my MGB GT V8 and got a Pioneer because it had a remote USB
> at the end of a cable so I can put the flash drive in my glove box.  I only
> listen to 91.5FM and 99.1 FM because they have NO adverts (CBC).  When I
> drove out with my newly installed radio I found to my horror that because
> these stations had a weak signal *I could not get them!  *But when I got
> back to the car radio install company they could not understand my problem
> pointing out that I now had Spotify, Pandora, Sirius, Bluetooth, ability to
> use my cell phone into the radio (WHY???), have different colours for the
> display,  etc, etc,etc.  There was only ONE page in the 33 page manual
> devoted to radio !!!!!!!    So my MGB is now a mobile communication centre
> with a *iss poor radio.   But to end this all, I bought a cheap portable
> for my garage (listen to non commercial stations of course) and for fun
> tried it in my MGB - it worked perfectly !!!!!!
>
> On 8/11/2019 10:52 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs wrote:
>
> My daily driver during the last few years of my working life was a 1970
> MGB.  I don't recall it ever getting ho-hum to drive.  Shouldn't have sold
> it.......
>
> CR
>
> On 8/11/2019 9:32 AM, Rick via Mgs wrote:
>
> Paul, my wife drives a livingroom (lounge) with a steering wheel. My daily
> is a 16-year-old Land Rover Discovery with 153k miles on the clock.
>
> On Aug 11, 2019 9:09 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com>
> <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> ?
> With you there.  One of the things I hate about modern cars is that they
> are so 'competent' aka boring.  Our daughter had a new MINI and if it
> hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I wouldn't have known we
> were moving.  I blame the manufacturers for reducing the driving experience
> to that of sitting on a sofa watching TV, and of drivers paying the same
> amount of attention to their driving.  Time and time again car shows where
> they have any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into
> a classic and rave about the experience.  One of the things
> that surprised me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001 was just
> how involving it was.  It'll have to go one day, and I'll be sorry when
> that happens.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>    Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're
> quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a
> subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Sun Aug 11 13:51:52 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 14:51:52 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <5fbb3a14-da30-c060-6648-0adabd85eca6@bell.net>
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From lrc at red4est.com  Sun Aug 11 16:14:16 2019
From: lrc at red4est.com (Larry Colen)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 15:14:16 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] A couple tons of series A parts for free
Message-ID: <9929DA5E-300B-4C32-9860-9C1FBFB4E9AC@red4est.com>

I saw this on facebook today.  There?s no way I can get down there, or really store them if I did

https://www.facebook.com/groups/britishpartsandneeds/permalink/2442306319141030/

FREE! Total bummer, but I just heard my free storage is no longer and all of this has to go. Here's the bugaboo - it's gotta be outta here in a week. No cherry-picking, you gotta take it all. It is all 948, some 1098 (early & late) A LOT of the blocks are marked with Sharpie ink noting bore size and deck height, this is part of that giant collection from that famous So. Cal. KABLOOIE era, all sorts of stuff that has main cap braces, etc. A bunch of ported and polished heads, and a lot of crankshafts that have been turned to various sizes, some of the cranks are even turned, coated in cosmoline and ready to install. Yes, it sucks, but I have zero place to store the stuff. Really sad to think that if someone doesn't step up & grab it all, it literally is all going to scrap. It'd be a lot more fun than going to the local healthclub and working out. In case you're curious, engine blocks appprox. 60 lbs. cranks, about 25 lbs, heads about 25 lbs. Kenny & I have moved them twice, there ain't going to be a 3rd, because 3 means four, you put 'em on the truck, and then you take 'em off the truck and then put 'em into their new home. AGAIN, FREE, but you gotta act now. Hell I'll even throw in about 500 lbs of flywheels, and another 250 lbs of ft & rr engine plate - nope, no 1275. Oh yeah, and another 30 oil pans, and 20 or so water pumps, and about 30 oil pumps. All told, I will give you, for FREE, over 2 tons of stuff! 818-898-9151

--
Larry Colen
lrc at red4est.com




From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Mon Aug 12 01:49:33 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 08:49:33 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
References: <760be6e3-d492-47e3-9452-66705f71b04f@email.android.com>
 <0D885338D9F94A94BEE7983526F81AF3@paul>
 <CABxEc+naafaqk7xtdCtGNp85HUywKbesWqd+-cW=NkhwHFzq5w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5D73C195266047E6AE464F65020B90B1@paul>

A pal had a Works Cooper for a while and that was great fun to drive like a hooligan, but uncomfortable for longer distances.  The most impressive thing was the headlights - I couldn't believe how far they reached without apparently dazzling oncoming drivers.  SUVs coming towards an MGB is a completely different matter though due to the relative heights.  My 75 V8 has the halogen conversion and the 2004 ZS with the same halogen bulbs is no better.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Interesting you mention that MINI.... We have a 2009 MINI Cooper Hardtop with a 6-speed manual that is actually great fun to drive.
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Mon Aug 12 05:08:28 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2019 06:08:28 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz88GMcTNtxfOZDntdMZC8Q5f-cNdCJ93wwOmUySBEnecFQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CAOc+-dz3mm0H4rKcSd-fK5UffZoTYwY1jk0q5hz0j11Tn85btw@mail.gmail.com>

    Ira, I must admit that I like the looks of the MGB Sport Ute!  :-o
   I don't like the fact that a ' B ' gave its life to become one, but
perhaps the donor car suffered an irreparable rear end catastrophe.

On Sun, Aug 11, 2019, 10:55 PM i erbs <eyera3000 at gmail.com> wrote:

> How about this pickup truck?
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
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From jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com  Tue Aug 13 07:55:28 2019
From: jwheeler1947 at yahoo.com (Jack Wheeler)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 13:55:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Parts for Sale
References: <901732902.4988792.1565704528854.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <901732902.4988792.1565704528854@mail.yahoo.com>

A few years ago I modified the front suspension on my 1971 MGB.? I did this to improve the handling.? While the car had about 90,000 miles on it when I made this change, the car handled fine in stock trim.? While I had it apart, I also changed the brake system parts so that I could switch over to silicone brake fluid.? Since all of the parts I replaced were in good usable condition, I kept all of the major parts.
Now that I am doing a major clean out of my garage, I have decided to get rid of all of these parts.? They include:
Brake Parts:
.? Brake Master Cylinder
.? Brake Disks.? Brake Calipers & hoses
Suspension Parts:
.? Vertical links.? Shock Absorbers.? Lower A-Arms.? Coil Springs.? Cross Member Mounting Bolts.? Misc. Front Suspension Hardware
If you are interested in any of these items, or either the brake package or suspension package, or if you know someone who might be, please contact me by email.? My prices will be reasonable, as my primary objective is to get rid of these parts.? I only hope to get something to compensate me for my time.? Keep in mind that most of these parts are very heavy, and therefore expensive to ship.? They will be shipped by US Mail from zip code 27376.
Thanks for your help with this.
Jack Wheeler
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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Tue Aug 13 10:16:45 2019
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:16:45 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <F3264480-E786-4B69-A55F-E679BA5A4040@gmail.com>
References: <CAOc+-dxDWQXe6awyzRHf3KJyODsa_Wr=sUL4J4GA4Wkb9qTvTA@mail.gmail.com>
 <625FE9CF-9CAB-4605-BD08-3833DB5EA979@sonic.net>
 <F3264480-E786-4B69-A55F-E679BA5A4040@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005e01d551f2$80d584f0$82808ed0$@planet.nl>

Oh yes,

 

I still have my secondary modern school Gazelle bike from 1967 ? older than my BGT! 

And it is equipped with a Sturmey Archer 3-speed hub.

50 years ago I went with this bike on holidays to Germany, Luxemburg and Belgium. Covered 1200 KM?s in two weeks ? nothing failed.

In all these years only the front wheel went bust due to mistreatments by fellow school guys.

It also has a leather Brooks saddle. 

Rides great still.

 

Cheers,

Hans

17 BGT NRG WW no od

 

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Robert's New iPad via Mgs
Verzonden: vrijdag 9 augustus 2019 13:26
Aan: Max Heim
CC: MG List
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MG pickup

 

   Max?s Chinese-built British-name bike response made me curious. A quick Google lookup finds in the UK:  Pashley, Brompton, Shand and Enigma as bicycle manufacturers, Brooks still making saddles, and a host of component manufacturers.  

   My wife?s bicycle, kept from junior high school years, is a Raleigh, made in Nottingham, girl?s frame, chain fully enclosed, with Sturmey-Archer three-speed.  It is possibly the smoothest bike I have ridden. Too bad for me that it is short, saddle-to-handlebars, as it is so comfortable to ride. 

Bob

 


On Aug 8, 2019, at 8:28 PM, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

Just dumb. It?s like the Chinese bicycle I bought ? it bears the brand name of a long-defunct British bicycle manufacturer. No relation, they just bought the rights to the name cheap.

 

<sigh>

 

--

Max Heim

'66 MGB

 

On Aug 8, 2019, at 5:14 PM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

 

Any if you seen this vehicle? No, I have just less than 0% interest in owning it but it is interesting.

 

https://asia.nikkei.com/Business/Automobile/China-owned-British-brand-MG-launches-pickup-in-Thailand

 

Rick

 

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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Tue Aug 13 10:27:33 2019
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Tue, 13 Aug 2019 18:27:33 +0200
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <760be6e3-d492-47e3-9452-66705f71b04f@email.android.com>
References: <5629D07B5A554402A6F3519A0E3F74B1@paul>
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Agree with rare being valuable.

Last weekend I sold one of my Puch mopeds ? an automatic fully original 1986 Maxi type, which specially was made for the Dutch market to be driven up to 16 M/h without a crash helmet. I bought the bike with original first tires and almost pristine condition @ 1530 KM (almost 1000 miles on the odometer (some scratches on the paint only) for ? 200,00 in 2010.

Last weekend I sold it for ? 750,00 to a guy who already owned exactly two of those. It then had 3300 KM on the odometer since new.

So being rare ? the guy told me he never saw such an original bike in this top condition ? gives value!

 

Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT and still three classic Puch mopeds in the garage 

 

Van: Mgs [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] Namens Rick via Mgs
Verzonden: zondag 11 augustus 2019 13:29
Aan: PaulHunt73
CC: MGs
Onderwerp: Re: [Mgs] MG pickup

 

> 'Rare', which doesn't translate to 'valuable'...

 

   Story of my life! I have two cars that are relatively 'rare', at least in this country, and 'valuable' they are not. The first is a Maserati Biturbo E. Its one of only 250 cars with the ' E ' designation and liquid-air after-coolers (which are often called intercoolers). On a good day the car might bring $6000. The second is a Lancia Zagato or a Beta Spyder in Europe. That car is worth about $25,000 because it is in showroom-like condition and originally delivered to Arizona, USA - so it hasn't collapsed into a pile of rust!

   Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems. To me, these cars' value is the pleasure they give to me. On the other hand, I just sold an early 'flying mirror' Testarossa that I restored from cardboard boxes! Despite it rarity, its only 'value' to me was the size of the buyer's check. The car was just no fun to own and drive. Granted, some of that blaz? attitude toward it, was because I burned out while restoring it.

   Wow. Must be early Sunday morning. Sorry to veer so far off track.

 

Rick



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From barrob at bell.net  Sat Aug 10 07:29:21 2019
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sat, 10 Aug 2019 09:29:21 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGA Luggage rack
In-Reply-To: <BF.DB.17549.6903E4D5@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <77572AAB-B60F-45FD-AB61-A58049CB123D@comporium.net>
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Buy a new rack and set it up with your new rack - Then when you have to 
strap on luggage (rather rare moments??) just change over the boot lids :-)

On 8/9/2019 10:47 PM, Steven Trovato via Mgs wrote:
> My vote is to leave it off, unless you take a lot of trips where you 
> really want the rack to carry luggage.? I prefer the look of the car 
> without it.
>
> -Steve
>
> At 09:50 PM 8/9/2019, Thomas Gunderson via Mgs wrote:
>
>
>> Sent from my iPhone X
>>
>> When I got my car 22 years ago. The trunk had four holes in the boot 
>> that had been plugged with a small rubber washer and a silver domed 
>> bolt. I got a new rack from Moss. I found that the holes in my boot 
>> did not lineup with the rack from Moss. I have the correct style rack 
>> for the car. So the last owner had a smaller rack.
>> Now I find it hard to mount the correct rack and have to drill four 
>> more holes in rhe boot. Should I leave it off or mount it?
>>
>> Tom Gunderson
>> 1957 MGA 1500 rst
>
>
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From mgbobh at gmail.com  Sun Aug 11 09:30:08 2019
From: mgbobh at gmail.com (Robert's New iPad)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 11:30:08 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <dc66528e-f809-26b1-f9f6-8a94027bff31@twc.com>
References: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
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Message-ID: <6D6B42CA-78E3-4A14-8B9F-D57A9CC23547@gmail.com>

   Can we find you another?  MGB...not job...
Bob


> On Aug 11, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> My daily driver during the last few years of my working life was a 1970 MGB.  I don't recall it ever getting ho-hum to drive.  Shouldn't have sold it.......
> 
> CR
> 
>> On 8/11/2019 9:32 AM, Rick via Mgs wrote:
>> Paul, my wife drives a livingroom (lounge) with a steering wheel. My daily is a 16-year-old Land Rover Discovery with 153k miles on the clock.
>> 
>> On Aug 11, 2019 9:09 AM, PaulHunt73 <paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>> ?
>> With you there.  One of the things I hate about modern cars is that they are so 'competent' aka boring.  Our daughter had a new MINI and if it hadn't been for the scenery going past the window I wouldn't have known we were moving.  I blame the manufacturers for reducing the driving experience to that of sitting on a sofa watching TV, and of drivers paying the same amount of attention to their driving.  Time and time again car shows where they have any number of modern exotics the presenters occasionally get into a classic and rave about the experience.  One of the things that surprised me with the ZS180 on a test-drive at launch in 2001 was just how involving it was.  It'll have to go one day, and I'll be sorry when that happens.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>    Why, you (didn't) ask, would I own cars like that? Because they're quirky and fun. So further to the point; Valuable by its very nature is a subjective term. Its dynamic, and I love dynamic systems.
>> 
>> 
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From Charley38 at twc.com  Sun Aug 11 15:45:42 2019
From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 16:45:42 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <6D6B42CA-78E3-4A14-8B9F-D57A9CC23547@gmail.com>
References: <751ae8c5-82e2-495d-93ea-a2634f931b54@email.android.com>
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Oh, I have a 1969 MGB now.? Went through the usual routine of an engine 
rebuild and installing an OD tranny.? Bought it in 1999 but don't drive 
it much since my wife passed away.

CR
On 8/11/2019 10:30 AM, Robert's New iPad wrote:
> ? ?Can we find you another? ?MGB...not job...
> Bob
>
>
> On Aug 11, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Charley Robinson via Mgs 
> <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>> My daily driver during the last few years of my working life was a 
>> 1970 MGB.? I don't recall it ever getting ho-hum to drive.? Shouldn't 
>> have sold it.......
>>
>> CR
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 10:52:28 2019
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 09:52:28 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] a better MG pickup
Message-ID: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>

Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Aug 14 12:00:09 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 13:00:09 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001d552ca$1ccdf9f0$5669edd0$@ranteer.com>

Can I have mine as a convertible pickup???

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of i erbs via Mgs
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM
To: mglist <Mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] a better MG pickup

 




Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

          BT7 engine and disk brakes

 

 

1967 MGB    <http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg> 

 

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti

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From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Aug 14 12:17:14 2019
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:17:14 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <001001d552ca$1ccdf9f0$5669edd0$@ranteer.com>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Here you go!



--
Max Heim
mvheim at sonic.net



> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Can I have mine as a convertible pickup???
>  
> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of i erbs via Mgs
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM
> To: mglist <Mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:Mgs at autox.team.net>>
> Subject: [Mgs] a better MG pickup
>  
> 
> Ira Erbs
> Portland,OR
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>  
>  
> 1967 MGB  
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 12:32:11 2019
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 11:32:11 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] FW: a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <001001d552ca$1ccdf9f0$5669edd0$@ranteer.com>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <CABXhz8_hayLfWzoXkYgufrz_dMQQZPLcvgn7BajCH8V=Jqka7g@mail.gmail.com>

just takes a good gas ax and welder.
Ira Erbs
Portland,OR
      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)
          BT7 engine and disk brakes


1967 MGB  [image: MG]

A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words


On Wed, Aug 14, 2019 at 11:13 AM dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Can I have mine as a convertible pickup???
>
>
>
> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *i erbs via Mgs
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM
> *To:* mglist <Mgs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* [Mgs] a better MG pickup
>
>
>
>
> Ira Erbs
>
> Portland,OR
>
>       _______                                  _______
>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>          (_________________________)
>
>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>
>
>
>
>
> 1967 MGB  [image: MG]
>
>
>
> A racing car is an animal with a thousand adjustments. Mario Andretti
>
> Please excuse random auto corrects and misspelled words
> _______________________________________________
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Aug 14 13:24:29 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 14:24:29 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <6046A261-C751-472A-8181-1A72BF04612B@sonic.net>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <000b01d552d5$e4fe9960$aefbcc20$@ranteer.com>

I'll take it!!!  is that an MGBamino?

 

From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:17 PM
To: dave <dave at ranteer.com>
Cc: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: a better MG pickup

 

Here you go!

 



 

--

Max Heim

mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net> 

 

 

 

On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net
<mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> > wrote:

 

Can I have mine as a convertible pickup???

 

From: Mgs < <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> mgs-bounces at autox.team.net>
On Behalf Of i erbs via Mgs
Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM
To: mglist < <mailto:Mgs at autox.team.net> Mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] a better MG pickup

 




Ira Erbs

Portland,OR

      _______                                  _______
     (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
         (_________________________)

          BT7 engine and disk brakes

 

 

1967 MGB
<http://www.britishcarspecialists.com/assets/images/MG_emblem.jpg> 

 

 

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From david_breneman at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 14 13:37:53 2019
From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 19:37:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <6046A261-C751-472A-8181-1A72BF04612B@sonic.net>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <1853735256.5435510.1565811473944@mail.yahoo.com>

On Wednesday, August 14, 2019, 11:17:53 AM PDT, Max Heim via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote: 

> 
> Here you go!
> 

Now THAT is cool.

From charleyrob at gmail.com  Wed Aug 14 13:39:01 2019
From: charleyrob at gmail.com (Robinson Charley)
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 15:39:01 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  a better MG pickup
In-Reply-To: <000b01d552d5$e4fe9960$aefbcc20$@ranteer.com>
References: <CABXhz8-+uDMsQZ_EYNq581=WSv1h0vUZt84mBZSCiAbMLBYfCA@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <56D940F7-CDF4-42D8-9F7E-22CC881A8870@gmail.com>

Looks more like an MGBranchero to me


> On Aug 14, 2019, at 3:24 PM, dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I?ll take it!!!  is that an MGBamino?
>  
> From: Max Heim <mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net>> 
> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 1:17 PM
> To: dave <dave at ranteer.com <mailto:dave at ranteer.com>>
> Cc: mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] FW: a better MG pickup
>  
> Here you go!
>  
> <image001.jpg>
>  
> --
> Max Heim
> mvheim at sonic.net <mailto:mvheim at sonic.net>
>  
>  
>  
>> On Aug 14, 2019, at 11:00 AM, dave via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>  
>> Can I have mine as a convertible pickup???
>>  
>> From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net>> On Behalf Of i erbs via Mgs
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2019 11:52 AM
>> To: mglist <Mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:Mgs at autox.team.net>>
>> Subject: [Mgs] a better MG pickup
>>  
>> 
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland,OR
>>       _______                                  _______
>>      (______ \____1959 BN4____/ _______)
>>          (_________________________)
>>           BT7 engine and disk brakes
>>  
>>  
>> 1967 MGB  
>>  
> 
>  
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From eyera3000 at gmail.com  Fri Aug 16 17:50:30 2019
From: eyera3000 at gmail.com (i erbs)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 16:50:30 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Positive earth
Message-ID: <CABXhz88haD3dmCtWWOUGPP6Qoc8Moo1CrcTPs+Vzf90ctbYYxQ@mail.gmail.com>

Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator, are
there any concerns with changing my 65 Spridget to negative ground?
Is tach mechanical or electric?
Thanks
Working to restart my garage find aftet 25 years.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
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From cgmoog at optonline.net  Fri Aug 16 18:23:20 2019
From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 20:23:20 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] High priced V8
Message-ID: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>

Don't know if anyone posted this but

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/



From mvheim at sonic.net  Fri Aug 16 18:31:56 2019
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 17:31:56 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] High priced V8
In-Reply-To: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
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Well, that is is really a complete custom build. They probably put all of that into it. Doesn?t really have any relevance to original spec cars, IMO.

--
Max Heim
mvheim at sonic.net



> On Aug 16, 2019, at 5:23 PM, Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> Don't know if anyone posted this but
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
> 
> 


From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Fri Aug 16 18:45:55 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2019 14:45:55 -1000
Subject: [Mgs] High priced V8
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References: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwXi2kxnfuDygkcHOWGfnfeSbLN0mORomvqQwgCBMzs-g@mail.gmail.com>

Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely but...of
no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. But the asking
price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS for that kind of money.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Don't know if anyone posted this but
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>
>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Aug 17 01:47:12 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:47:12 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Positive earth
References: <CABXhz88haD3dmCtWWOUGPP6Qoc8Moo1CrcTPs+Vzf90ctbYYxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3171C91784DF43B7BB5609B04DF4BADD@paul>

If you have a rev counter i.e. mechanical there will be a thick flexible cable like a speedo cable going to the engine.  MGBs got the electronic tach in 1964, for what that's worth.

Other than that it depends if you have any other electronic stuff like ignition (probably unlikely) or radio.  Radios in a car not touched for that long could well have a polarity reversing plug.

The heater fan may reverse and work less well, but if both wires going into the motor are the same colour with no identification stripe on one of them then probably not.

The wipers may park in a slightly different place.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator, are there any concerns with changing my 65 Spridget to negative ground?
  Is tach mechanical or electric?
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From spridget at gmail.com  Sat Aug 17 06:19:22 2019
From: spridget at gmail.com (Stan Fickes)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:19:22 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Positive earth
In-Reply-To: <CABXhz88haD3dmCtWWOUGPP6Qoc8Moo1CrcTPs+Vzf90ctbYYxQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CABXhz88haD3dmCtWWOUGPP6Qoc8Moo1CrcTPs+Vzf90ctbYYxQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAK23Kv9+qVn=R9vGH5EOZ4NH47EdJpBrr-oX6q1zHRRVXfxEFA@mail.gmail.com>

My '65 has an electronic tach. Look for the little loop of wire on the
back. The polarity of the loop must be reversed. I cut and spliced the ends
of the loop. See
https://www.carolinasahc.com/Tech%20Tips/Electrical/NegativeGround.html


On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 7:54 PM i erbs via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

> Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator, are
> there any concerns with changing my 65 Spridget to negative ground?
> Is tach mechanical or electric?
> Thanks
> Working to restart my garage find aftet 25 years.
>
> Ira Erbs
> Portland, OR
> typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sat Aug 17 06:41:37 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 07:41:37 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] FW:  High priced V8
In-Reply-To: <CAOc+-dwXi2kxnfuDygkcHOWGfnfeSbLN0mORomvqQwgCBMzs-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
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Message-ID: <001a01d554f9$1cab83d0$56028b70$@ranteer.com>

Completely NUTS!!!!  No way that car is worth that.

 

From: Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Richard Lindsay via Mgs
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
To: MGs <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] High priced V8

 

Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS for that kind of money.

On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net> > wrote:

Don't know if anyone posted this but

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/


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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sat Aug 17 07:08:59 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:08:59 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Positive earth
References: <CABXhz88haD3dmCtWWOUGPP6Qoc8Moo1CrcTPs+Vzf90ctbYYxQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CAK23Kv9+qVn=R9vGH5EOZ4NH47EdJpBrr-oX6q1zHRRVXfxEFA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <EB0954818958400392FAE137F9ACD950@paul>

If you do have the tach then the polarity of the 12v supply must be reversed inside the case as well (as mentioned in that article).

It mentions reversing the coil.  That isn't necessary and won't make any practical difference.  Original coils are wired internally to boost the HT using the 'auto-transformer' effect as well as connected externally to give a certain polarity of spark which jumps the gap easier.  If you reverse the coil you keep the polarity but lose some of the auto-transformer' effect.  If you don't you keep the full 'auto-transformer' effect but reverse the polarity of the spark.  Either could be significant on veteran low-voltage systems, which would make getting the correct polarity coil preferable.  But it should make no detectable difference to starting or running with HV systems such as ours.

PaulH.


----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Stan Fickes via Mgs 
  To: i erbs 
  Cc: mglist 
  Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2019 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mgs] Positive earth


  My '65 has an electronic tach. Look for the little loop of wire on the back. The polarity of the loop must be reversed. I cut and spliced the ends of the loop. See 
  https://www.carolinasahc.com/Tech%20Tips/Electrical/NegativeGround.html





  On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 7:54 PM i erbs via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:

    Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator, are there any concerns with changing my 65 Spridget to negative ground?
    Is tach mechanical or electric?
    Thanks
    Working to restart my garage find aftet 25 years.


    Ira Erbs
    Portland, OR
    typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
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From barrob at bell.net  Sat Aug 17 09:19:57 2019
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 11:19:57 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] FW: High priced V8
In-Reply-To: <001a01d554f9$1cab83d0$56028b70$@ranteer.com>
References: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
 <CAOc+-dwXi2kxnfuDygkcHOWGfnfeSbLN0mORomvqQwgCBMzs-g@mail.gmail.com>
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I built from the ground up an MGB GT V8 because they were never imported 
into NA - I had the "normal" MGB GT which did not have enough grunt to 
overtake lorries on the highway. ? The building of a factory MGB GT V8 
included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers and mild cam.(370lbs 
as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).?? The result was enough grunt 
to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as well as those rice burners.? Unlike 
the Ford powered rebuilds my "factory" MGB has prefect weight 
distribution so is like handling a go-kart.? It sips fuel and at highway 
speed it ticks over at just over 1k rpm.?? On top of this exceptionally 
blessed machine it looks great.? None of this NA desire to have a BIG 
car and the added body work to achieve this. ? Bags of groceries etc. 
room using the back trunk "door".? But only one other passenger can be 
accommodated albeit not in comfort.?? It is only a family of two car!

So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford engine. It would 
be easier to buy this instead of going through the rebuild process.? But 
why not a lighter legendary Rover V8 which could be opened? to 5L - (but 
why? - 3.5 is enough!).? The 1974-plus MGBs have engine bays configured 
to take the Rover engines. The other thing is that there is obviously 
much deviation from the original MGB GT so that it may not excite ardent 
MGB devotees.?? But it does look nice................

Cheers
Barrie Robinson
Chairman
Aston Martin Feltham Club




On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>
> Completely NUTS!!!!? No way that car is worth that.
>
> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
> Lindsay via Mgs
> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
> *To:* MGs <mgs at autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] High priced V8
>
> Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely 
> but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. 
> But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS for 
> that kind of money.
>
> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net 
> <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>
>     Don't know if anyone posted this but
>
>     https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>
>
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From jimray at hartcom.net  Sat Aug 17 10:43:27 2019
From: jimray at hartcom.net (Jim Ray)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 12:43:27 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] FW: High priced V8
In-Reply-To: <bcb71f93-dafa-974e-e3f2-a8e94449a629@bell.net>
References: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
 <CAOc+-dwXi2kxnfuDygkcHOWGfnfeSbLN0mORomvqQwgCBMzs-g@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <cc33b0a2-7661-71f3-b3b9-f5e241a98eac@hartcom.net>

I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8 came 
with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a compression 
ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in the Rover version of 
the 3.5 engine. This is based on two sources, the MGB GT V8 Workshop 
Manual Supplement and personal observations of Barry Rosenberg's 
original right-hand drive car he imported from England.

Jim Ray

1980 MGB V8 conversion

On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote:
> I built from the ground up an MGB GT V8 because they were never 
> imported into NA - I had the "normal" MGB GT which did not have enough 
> grunt to overtake lorries on the highway. ? The building of a factory 
> MGB GT V8 included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers and mild 
> cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).?? The result was 
> enough grunt to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as well as those rice 
> burners.? Unlike the Ford powered rebuilds my "factory" MGB has 
> prefect weight distribution so is like handling a go-kart.? It sips 
> fuel and at highway speed it ticks over at just over 1k rpm.?? On top 
> of this exceptionally blessed machine it looks great.? None of this NA 
> desire to have a BIG car and the added body work to achieve this. ? 
> Bags of groceries etc. room using the back trunk "door".? But only one 
> other passenger can be accommodated albeit not in comfort.?? It is 
> only a family of two car!
>
> So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford engine. It 
> would be easier to buy this instead of going through the rebuild 
> process.? But why not a lighter legendary Rover V8 which could be 
> opened? to 5L - (but why? - 3.5 is enough!).? The 1974-plus MGBs have 
> engine bays configured to take the Rover engines. The other thing is 
> that there is obviously much deviation from the original MGB GT so 
> that it may not excite ardent MGB devotees.?? But it does look 
> nice................
>
> Cheers
> Barrie Robinson
> Chairman
> Aston Martin Feltham Club
>
>
>
>
> On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>>
>> Completely NUTS!!!!? No way that car is worth that.
>>
>> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>> Lindsay via Mgs
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
>> *To:* MGs <mgs at autox.team.net>
>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] High priced V8
>>
>> Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely 
>> but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. 
>> But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS for 
>> that kind of money.
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net 
>> <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>
>>     Don't know if anyone posted this but
>>
>>     https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>>
>>
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From ejrussell at mebtel.net  Sat Aug 17 12:32:44 2019
From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 14:32:44 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 147, Issue 14
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3.1566064801.26805.mgs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.3.1566064801.26805.mgs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <a78d74d7-780b-f69e-fd77-eb220b0f0c01@mebtel.net>

 > Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator...

I believe you need to 'flash' (repolarize) the generator (not the 
voltage regulator). Some electric fuel pumps are polarity specific. Most 
radios sold since the mid 1960's are negative ground. Older radios 
sometimes had a switch for negative or positive ground.

Although written for the MGA, much of the info in the MGA Guru's Tech 
pages also apply to B's & Midgets.

See: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/

Specifically:: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202.htm & 
http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202a.htm

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC

From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Sat Aug 17 12:46:35 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 08:46:35 -1000
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 147, Issue 14
In-Reply-To: <a78d74d7-780b-f69e-fd77-eb220b0f0c01@mebtel.net>
References: <mailman.3.1566064801.26805.mgs@autox.team.net>
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Message-ID: <CAOc+-dxMqXsVynJH-LfS5MXUE71U4HMpynyFqfjeLuM8qASeLg@mail.gmail.com>

Of course, one could leave it positive earth...

The only real issue is if one requires a radio. My TD is positive earth.

http://aubard.us/53_MG/20150414_133137.jpg

My only concern was buying the right replacement fuel pump, which Moss
stocks.


Rick

On Sat, Aug 17, 2019, 8:33 AM Eric Russell via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

>  > Other than turning battery around and flashing the voltage regulator...
>
> I believe you need to 'flash' (repolarize) the generator (not the
> voltage regulator). Some electric fuel pumps are polarity specific. Most
> radios sold since the mid 1960's are negative ground. Older radios
> sometimes had a switch for negative or positive ground.
>
> Although written for the MGA, much of the info in the MGA Guru's Tech
> pages also apply to B's & Midgets.
>
> See: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/
>
> Specifically:: http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202.htm &
> http://www.mgaguru.com/mgtech/electric/et202a.htm
>
> Eric Russell
> Mebane, NC
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From barrob at bell.net  Sat Aug 17 15:51:34 2019
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sat, 17 Aug 2019 17:51:34 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] FW: High priced V8
In-Reply-To: <cc33b0a2-7661-71f3-b3b9-f5e241a98eac@hartcom.net>
References: <c5048689-e1ee-2e97-8ea7-8db758a6679f@optonline.net>
 <CAOc+-dwXi2kxnfuDygkcHOWGfnfeSbLN0mORomvqQwgCBMzs-g@mail.gmail.com>
 <001a01d554f9$1cab83d0$56028b70$@ranteer.com>
 <bcb71f93-dafa-974e-e3f2-a8e94449a629@bell.net>
 <cc33b0a2-7661-71f3-b3b9-f5e241a98eac@hartcom.net>
Message-ID: <c2d007ba-8147-0a03-923d-74a8a4403642@bell.net>

Hello all,

When one looks at nice a shiny Rover 3.5L configured to give 137 bhp it 
is impossible not to jiggle it up a bit more !!!?? The engine arrived 
with SU's but Edelbrocks were such a nice fit and with the tweeks took 
it up to well over 200 bhp.? Edelbrocks are Webers just relabeled as NAs 
are not familiar with Webers.

On 8/17/2019 12:43 PM, Jim Ray via Mgs wrote:
>
> I agree with Barrie in every respect except the original MGB V8 came 
> with twin SU HIF6 carburetors instead of Webers , had a compression 
> ratio of 8.26 : 1 and the same camshaft that was in the Rover version 
> of the 3.5 engine. This is based on two sources, the MGB GT V8 
> Workshop Manual Supplement and personal observations of Barry 
> Rosenberg's original right-hand drive car he imported from England.
>
> Jim Ray
>
> 1980 MGB V8 conversion
>
> On 8/17/2019 11:19 AM, Barrie Robinson via Mgs wrote:
>> I built from the ground up an MGB GT V8 because they were never 
>> imported into NA - I had the "normal" MGB GT which did not have 
>> enough grunt to overtake lorries on the highway. ? The building of a 
>> factory MGB GT V8 included the Rover 3.5L V8 with HC pistons, Webers 
>> and mild cam.(370lbs as against 450lbs of Ford 302ci engine).?? The 
>> result was enough grunt to embarrass Porches and Mustangs as well as 
>> those rice burners.? Unlike the Ford powered rebuilds my "factory" 
>> MGB has prefect weight distribution so is like handling a go-kart.? 
>> It sips fuel and at highway speed it ticks over at just over 1k 
>> rpm.?? On top of this exceptionally blessed machine it looks great. 
>> None of this NA desire to have a BIG car and the added body work to 
>> achieve this. ? Bags of groceries etc. room using the back trunk 
>> "door".? But only one other passenger can be accommodated albeit not 
>> in comfort.?? It is only a family of two car!
>>
>> So to me the price is almost right except for that Ford engine. It 
>> would be easier to buy this instead of going through the rebuild 
>> process.? But why not a lighter legendary Rover V8 which could be 
>> opened? to 5L - (but why? - 3.5 is enough!).? The 1974-plus MGBs have 
>> engine bays configured to take the Rover engines. The other thing is 
>> that there is obviously much deviation from the original MGB GT so 
>> that it may not excite ardent MGB devotees.?? But it does look 
>> nice................
>>
>> Cheers
>> Barrie Robinson
>> Chairman
>> Aston Martin Feltham Club
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8/17/2019 8:41 AM, dave via Mgs wrote:
>>>
>>> Completely NUTS!!!!? No way that car is worth that.
>>>
>>> *From:* Mgs <mgs-bounces at autox.team.net> *On Behalf Of *Richard 
>>> Lindsay via Mgs
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 16, 2019 7:46 PM
>>> *To:* MGs <mgs at autox.team.net>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Mgs] High priced V8
>>>
>>> Probably a fun car to drive, may be comfortable and drive nicely 
>>> but...of no interest to me at all. Such is life and to each his own. 
>>> But the asking price! Holy cow! I can buy a fair condition 308GTS 
>>> for that kind of money.
>>>
>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019, 2:26 PM Chris Moog via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net 
>>> <mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     Don't know if anyone posted this but
>>>
>>>     https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1974-mg-mgb-gt-17/
>>>
>>>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Sun Aug 18 03:43:31 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:43:31 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 147, Issue 14
References: <mailman.3.1566064801.26805.mgs@autox.team.net>
 <a78d74d7-780b-f69e-fd77-eb220b0f0c01@mebtel.net>
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Message-ID: <39626C05285341EE9B3D835B5E457D78@paul>

For some years now new SU pumps should have been polarity independent since they started using a bi-directional points quenching device instead of a diode and resistor.  It doesn't help when the boxes are labelled 'dual polarity' but the information sheet inside the box still states 'All AZX pumps are polarity conscious'.  Polarity-dependant devices have red and black insulation (and can be reversed to change polarity), polarity-independent devices have the same colour insulation on both wires.  I don't know about electronic pumps, but it's hardly difficult to make those dual polarity as well.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message ----- 


  My only concern was buying the right replacement fuel pump, which Moss stocks.
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From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Aug 18 09:22:18 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 10:22:18 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] car shipping
Message-ID: <003d01d555d8$b9a569a0$2cf03ce0$@ranteer.com>

I am about to ship a car from Dallas to Maryland am looking for
recommendations on a shipper.  Car is anything but pristine so don't need
fancy/enclosed, just reliable

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From allen.k.hess at gmail.com  Mon Aug 19 09:48:03 2019
From: allen.k.hess at gmail.com (Allen Hess)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 11:48:03 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
Message-ID: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>

I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how many miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing. 

The original clutch was replaced at about 54,000 miles because it was slipping (Moss parts, 1998). Recently had very erratic clutch operation which I thought was going to be the release bearing or pressure plate diaphragm. Started with the hydraulics and found the slave cylinder containing what can only be the insides of the slave cylinder hose. After rebuilding/replacing clutch hydraulics, it seems to be okay but I am still not comfortable. 

Thanks,
Allen

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From mvheim at sonic.net  Mon Aug 19 10:28:33 2019
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 09:28:33 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
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References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4E483329-6A20-44FF-AA13-383CA85294AF@sonic.net>

Hose deterioration like that is not unknown.

Not sure how the clutch release bearing figures into this. IME they outlast the clutch disc; for example, when I recently pulled the engine for the first time in at least 21 years (could have been 25, I need to look it up), the clutch disc was down to its last millimeter of wear, but the flywheel surface was perfect, and the throwout bearing looked good enough to re-use (I didn?t, though).

When I read complaints about these failing, it almost always seems to be from people who had installed a ?heavy duty? clutch. I get the impression that people buy these with the idea that ?heavy duty? means it will last longer. This is not the case. It refers to heavier clamping pressure for the purpose of handling extra horsepower ? if you don?t have a more powerful than stock engine, it is completely unnecessary and merely puts more stress on the other components, such as the throwout bearing.


--
Max Heim
'66 MGB

> On Aug 19, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Allen Hess via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net> wrote:
> 
> I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how many miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing. 
> 
> The original clutch was replaced at about 54,000 miles because it was slipping (Moss parts, 1998). Recently had very erratic clutch operation which I thought was going to be the release bearing or pressure plate diaphragm. Started with the hydraulics and found the slave cylinder containing what can only be the insides of the slave cylinder hose. After rebuilding/replacing clutch hydraulics, it seems to be okay but I am still not comfortable. 
> 
> Thanks,
> Allen
> 
> 
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From paul at ece.rochester.edu  Mon Aug 19 18:02:22 2019
From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Osborne, Paul)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 00:02:22 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
In-Reply-To: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <E19E1AEB-7147-45C3-92DF-4AE938E1D4C5@ur.rochester.edu>

Looks like the inside of the hose is coming apart.

paul


On Aug 19, 2019, at 11:48 AM, Allen Hess via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net<mailto:mgs at autox.team.net>> wrote:

I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how many miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing.

The original clutch was replaced at about 54,000 miles because it was slipping (Moss parts, 1998). Recently had very erratic clutch operation which I thought was going to be the release bearing or pressure plate diaphragm. Started with the hydraulics and found the slave cylinder containing what can only be the insides of the slave cylinder hose. After rebuilding/replacing clutch hydraulics, it seems to be okay but I am still not comfortable.

Thanks,
Allen

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From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Mon Aug 19 18:59:56 2019
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:59:56 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
In-Reply-To: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <mailman.55.1566263482.2434.mgs@autox.team.net>

I run standard MGB clutch parts in my MGA, and I 
keep good records.  Last replaced 5/15/18 with 
5-1/2 years, 155,566 miles.  It was not worn out, 
but it was a convenient time to replace it.  I 
recon they could go 200,000 miles if you don't 
abuse them.  Just keep your foot off the clutch 
pedal when you're not shifting.  Most likely the clutch disc wears out first.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com


At 11:48 AM 8/19/2019, Allen Hess via Mgs wrote:
>I have a 71 MGB and I???m wondering how many 
>miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing.
>
>The original clutch was replaced at about 54,000 
>miles because it was slipping (Moss parts, 
>1998). Recently had very erratic clutch 
>operation which I thought was going to be the 
>release bearing or pressure plate diaphragm. 
>Started with the hydraulics and found the slave 
>cylinder containing what can only be the insides 
>of the slave cylinder hose. After 
>rebuilding/replacing clutch hydraulics, it seems 
>to be okay but I am still not comfortable.
>
>Thanks,
>Allen
>....
>Attachment: image11.jpg


From Charley38 at twc.com  Mon Aug 19 19:23:49 2019
From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2019 20:23:49 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
In-Reply-To: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3a59fcd8-c7e3-05c5-bdf6-5a238322acf6@twc.com>

Looks to me like you've fixed the problem, so quit worrying. :-)

CR

On 8/19/2019 10:48 AM, Allen Hess via Mgs wrote:
> I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how many miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing.
>
> The original clutch was replaced at about 54,000 miles because it was slipping (Moss parts, 1998). Recently had very erratic clutch operation which I thought was going to be the release bearing or pressure plate diaphragm. Started with the hydraulics and found the slave cylinder containing what can only be the insides of the slave cylinder hose. After rebuilding/replacing clutch hydraulics, it seems to be okay but I am still not comfortable.
>
> Thanks,
> Allen
>
>
>
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From paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com  Tue Aug 20 01:49:56 2019
From: paulhunt73 at virginmedia.com (PaulHunt73)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 08:49:56 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <436C446D138C482CB99DC02AAFB78F3A@paul>

It's a bit of a minefield with many variables.

A graphite release bearing _should_ last the life of the clutch friction 
plate, apart from my roadster described below I've never had one fail, the 
clutch has started slipping from friction plate wear before that.  But if 
the main driver rides the clutch and sits at traffic lights with the pedal 
down then its life will be reduced.

A few years ago someone started making them with the graphite ring pinned 
into the casting instead of being glued and they tended to explode in a 
short time.  Hopefully they will be out of circulation now.

Suppliers want you to buy roller bearing release bearings at extra expense 
(clutch kits normally come with the graphite type) but they have their own 
problems.  John Twist describes how they aren't the complete answer by 
demonstrating how they move in an arc as the pedal is operated and released, 
so sliding across the face of the release ring on the cover plate, which 
causes excessive wear.  Graphite bearings are designed to cope with that, 
roller bearings aren't.  Whilst what he says is true the arc they actually 
move in use is very limited, the real problem is there is nothing to 
centralise the bearing to the cover plate in the first place.  Depending on 
how far your release arm is off-centre - and I found mine a good 3/16" - as 
well as sliding back an fore all the time the load will be on one side 
significantly more than the other, something else they are not designed for 
http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/clutchr3a.htm#5  I've been told by someone who 
has worked on these cars for decades that "They are all like that". 
Proponents say all modern cars have roller bearings so they must be good, so 
does the MGB GT V8 and the Midget 1500, and they don't fail.  But that is 
because they have a guide tube over the first-motion shaft to keep the 
bearing centralised to the cover plate.

On the roadster I've had a graphite bearing break up because the casting 
wore through on one side, and a roller bearing get destroyed when the 
friction plate was barely half worn.  At that point I noticed how off-centre 
the release arm was, so brought it back into line.  The most immediate 
effect is the biting point is now much higher than it has ever been - almost 
too high.  It was always lower than my other cars before and extending the 
'throw' of the hydraulics made little difference.  I'm sure that is because 
before it was pushing one side of the pressure plate down less than the 
other side because of the offset.  There is a graphite bearing in now, time 
will tell.

As for the gunge, that is normal as the flex hose ages.  That will have no 
effect on release bearing wear.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how many miles people are getting from the 
carbon release bearing.


From Charley38 at twc.com  Tue Aug 20 10:50:49 2019
From: Charley38 at twc.com (Charley Robinson)
Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2019 11:50:49 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] clutch release bearing
In-Reply-To: <436C446D138C482CB99DC02AAFB78F3A@paul>
References: <5F6520F4-8AA6-4752-919E-80559404FDE3@gmail.com>
 <436C446D138C482CB99DC02AAFB78F3A@paul>
Message-ID: <68cd9426-f87c-d675-daa4-3fae8b0dfa2f@twc.com>

I had a roller throwout bearing in my '70 B back in the 1980's - 
1990's.? Put in new clutch parts when I rebuilt the engine.? That B was 
my daily driver for 5 yrs or so until I sold it; had no problems with it 
during that time.? My current '69 B has the stock clutch parts including 
the graphite throwout bearing (bushing).? All that went in in 1999 when 
I rebuilt the engine and installed an OD tranny.?? Around 25K miles on 
the car since then, no problems with the drive train.?? The worst 
beating the clutch components had to take was when I and the B got 
volunteered into a small-town parade. (Ah, the irony; a British car in 
an Independence Day parade.)? I thought I'd stick her in first gear and 
idle along.? Not!? It was like being in stop and go traffic for an 
hour.? I figure I took several years off the release bearing in that hour.

CR

On 8/20/2019 2:49 AM, PaulHunt73 via Mgs wrote:
> It's a bit of a minefield with many variables.
>
> A graphite release bearing _should_ last the life of the clutch 
> friction plate, apart from my roadster described below I've never had 
> one fail, the clutch has started slipping from friction plate wear 
> before that.? But if the main driver rides the clutch and sits at 
> traffic lights with the pedal down then its life will be reduced.
>
> A few years ago someone started making them with the graphite ring 
> pinned into the casting instead of being glued and they tended to 
> explode in a short time.? Hopefully they will be out of circulation now.
>
> Suppliers want you to buy roller bearing release bearings at extra 
> expense (clutch kits normally come with the graphite type) but they 
> have their own problems.? John Twist describes how they aren't the 
> complete answer by demonstrating how they move in an arc as the pedal 
> is operated and released, so sliding across the face of the release 
> ring on the cover plate, which causes excessive wear.? Graphite 
> bearings are designed to cope with that, roller bearings aren't.? 
> Whilst what he says is true the arc they actually move in use is very 
> limited, the real problem is there is nothing to centralise the 
> bearing to the cover plate in the first place.? Depending on how far 
> your release arm is off-centre - and I found mine a good 3/16" - as 
> well as sliding back an fore all the time the load will be on one side 
> significantly more than the other, something else they are not 
> designed for http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/clutchr3a.htm#5? I've been 
> told by someone who has worked on these cars for decades that "They 
> are all like that". Proponents say all modern cars have roller 
> bearings so they must be good, so does the MGB GT V8 and the Midget 
> 1500, and they don't fail.? But that is because they have a guide tube 
> over the first-motion shaft to keep the bearing centralised to the 
> cover plate.
>
> On the roadster I've had a graphite bearing break up because the 
> casting wore through on one side, and a roller bearing get destroyed 
> when the friction plate was barely half worn.? At that point I noticed 
> how off-centre the release arm was, so brought it back into line.? The 
> most immediate effect is the biting point is now much higher than it 
> has ever been - almost too high.? It was always lower than my other 
> cars before and extending the 'throw' of the hydraulics made little 
> difference.? I'm sure that is because before it was pushing one side 
> of the pressure plate down less than the other side because of the 
> offset.? There is a graphite bearing in now, time will tell.
>
> As for the gunge, that is normal as the flex hose ages.? That will 
> have no effect on release bearing wear.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- I have a 71 MGB and I?m wondering how 
> many miles people are getting from the carbon release bearing.
>
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From dave at ranteer.com  Mon Aug 26 11:32:41 2019
From: dave at ranteer.com (dave)
Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2019 12:32:41 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] craigslist posting in Texas
Message-ID: <000f01d55c34$43c27590$cb4760b0$@ranteer.com>

For anyone interested.

 

dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1978-mgb/6961757824.html <https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/dallas-1978-mgb/6961757824.html> 

 

 
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From richardolindsay at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 06:23:40 2019
From: richardolindsay at gmail.com (Richard Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 07:23:40 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] To do
Message-ID: <CAOc+-dwtUChF6CT9QBUR3CFPn689no4JwLS18BHG+eVJBxH_nQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello friends,
   It is SO quiet here! Everyone's cars must be running perfectly! What
else might one expect?
   I have made no progress on my TD. The car is 98% restored and with only
four tasks remaining.

1. Replace the choke cable.
2. Install the new top and side screens covers.
3. Uncover the seat back upholstery and reshape the foam pad. More on that
below.
4. Replace the brake master cylinder and re-bleed the brakes.

With all of that done, the little car will be ready for fall weather
motoring. Of course, there is no rush since I live in Houston, Texas where
autumn doesn't arrive until December!!!
   Now for item number three: When I originally uncovered the TD's seat
back I discovered that the metal springs were rusted and failing beyond
repair. The backing board was also delaminating. So I then used the old
backing board as a template to mark and cut a new board. I then padded the
board with foam rubber but didn't contour the foam correctly. The result
was a beautiful seat back that placed the driver far too close to the
steering wheel! Here's how it looked.

http://aubard.us/53_MG/20171003_124737.jpg

   So now I need to remove the new leather upholstery and re-contour the
foam correctly. And this time I will test the shape before reinstalling the
leather!

Rick
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From barrob at bell.net  Wed Aug 28 08:36:48 2019
From: barrob at bell.net (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:36:48 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] To do
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Hello Rick,

May I suggest that you use "memory" foam for your seats.?? I used that 
stuff when I did my seats and it is incredible !!! But get the firmest 
grade.

Things not running smoothly here !!
Decided my MGB GT V8 needed a radio.? Had a $$$ Pioneer put in by radio 
shop.?? Found it would not pick up the two weak stations that have no 
adverts.?? Windscreen antenna useless. Bought a $40 portable for garage 
which worked fine in my garage AND the MGB !!!!?? After car radio 
installed my car battery went flat after a few days!!!!!?? Returned to 
car radio shop and had $$$ powered antenna installed.?? Weak stations 
were picked up - hurrah.?? But told to stop radio flattening my battery 
I had to remove face plate (WHAAAT!) because the radio was for modern 
cars.?? So I had them install a kill switch and hopefully that works.? 
(it does!). ?? So it would appear that the modern "off" is not off just 
as with my cell phone which goes dead after a few days because it polls 
the towers for calls /even/ after switching "off" ? Technology is 
getting stupid these days. ? Fancy, my Pioneer has all sorts of cr*p, 
Pandora, Bluetooth, Spotify, Sirius, telephone and more but /cannot 
/pick up weak stations as can my Golf and garage portable !!!!!!

On 8/28/2019 8:23 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote:
> Hello friends,
> ? ?It is SO quiet here! Everyone's cars must be running perfectly! 
> What else might one expect?
> ? ?I have made no progress on my TD. The car is 98% restored and with 
> only four tasks remaining.
>
> 1. Replace the choke cable.
> 2. Install the new top and side screens covers.
> 3. Uncover the seat back upholstery and reshape the foam pad. More on 
> that below.
> 4. Replace the brake master cylinder and re-bleed the brakes.
>
> With all of that done, the little car will be ready for fall weather 
> motoring. Of course, there is no rush since I live in Houston, Texas 
> where autumn doesn't arrive until December!!!
> ? ?Now for item number three: When I originally uncovered the TD's 
> seat back I discovered that the metal springs were rusted and failing 
> beyond repair. The backing board was also delaminating. So I then used 
> the old backing board as a template to mark and cut a new board. I 
> then padded the board with foam rubber but didn't contour the foam 
> correctly. The result was a beautiful seat back that placed the driver 
> far too close to the steering wheel! Here's how it looked.
>
> http://aubard.us/53_MG/20171003_124737.jpg
>
> ? ?So now I need to remove the new leather upholstery and re-contour 
> the foam correctly. And this time I will test the shape before 
> reinstalling the leather!
>
> Rick
>
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From dan.dibiase at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 08:51:07 2019
From: dan.dibiase at gmail.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:51:07 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] To do
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My daughter has a 2016 Jeep Grand Cherokee - 75th Anniversary Edition so it
is loaded with features (the heated steering wheel - wow, I never thought I
would need one of those but man is it great in winter...). Her audio system
has no 'off' button, just a mute button. Apparently, the Uconnect system is
so highly integrated into the operation of the car that it is always 'on'
when the car is on. What you would normally think of as the 'off' button is
actually the mute.

MGB-wise, my '76 has been languishing in the garage for a couple of years
now. It needs a carb rebuild at this point, so am probably going to send it
off to Joe Curto next month. My second career as a Realtor has taken off
this year (good news/bad news) so am pretty busy at the moment. It will
start to slow down after Labor Day so I can hopefully do some garage work.
It really needs a clean-up. And the '65 B is still sitting mostly apart as
well. But I have to do something with it in the next 6 years before we make
our way south for 'full' retirement.

Dan D
Central NJ USA

http://dandibiase.cbintouch.com/


On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 10:37 AM Barrie Robinson via Mgs <mgs at autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Hello Rick,
>
> May I suggest that you use "memory" foam for your seats.   I used that
> stuff when I did my seats and it is incredible !!!  But get the firmest
> grade.
>
> Things not running smoothly here !!
> Decided my MGB GT V8 needed a radio.  Had a $$$ Pioneer put in by radio
> shop.   Found it would not pick up the two weak stations that have no
> adverts.   Windscreen antenna useless.  Bought a $40 portable for garage
> which worked fine in my garage AND the MGB !!!!   After car radio installed
> my car battery went flat after a few days!!!!!   Returned to car radio shop
> and had $$$ powered antenna installed.   Weak stations were picked up -
> hurrah.   But told to stop radio flattening my battery I had to remove face
> plate (WHAAAT!) because the radio was for modern cars.   So I had them
> install a kill switch and hopefully that works.  (it does!).    So it would
> appear that the modern "off" is not off just as with my cell phone which
> goes dead after a few days because it polls the towers for calls *even*
> after switching "off"   Technology is getting stupid these days.   Fancy,
> my Pioneer has all sorts of cr*p, Pandora, Bluetooth, Spotify, Sirius,
> telephone and more but *cannot  *pick up weak stations as can my Golf and
> garage portable !!!!!!
>
> On 8/28/2019 8:23 AM, Richard Lindsay via Mgs wrote:
>
> Hello friends,
>    It is SO quiet here! Everyone's cars must be running perfectly! What
> else might one expect?
>    I have made no progress on my TD. The car is 98% restored and with only
> four tasks remaining.
>
> 1. Replace the choke cable.
> 2. Install the new top and side screens covers.
> 3. Uncover the seat back upholstery and reshape the foam pad. More on that
> below.
> 4. Replace the brake master cylinder and re-bleed the brakes.
>
> With all of that done, the little car will be ready for fall weather
> motoring. Of course, there is no rush since I live in Houston, Texas where
> autumn doesn't arrive until December!!!
>    Now for item number three: When I originally uncovered the TD's seat
> back I discovered that the metal springs were rusted and failing beyond
> repair. The backing board was also delaminating. So I then used the old
> backing board as a template to mark and cut a new board. I then padded the
> board with foam rubber but didn't contour the foam correctly. The result
> was a beautiful seat back that placed the driver far too close to the
> steering wheel! Here's how it looked.
>
> http://aubard.us/53_MG/20171003_124737.jpg
>
>    So now I need to remove the new leather upholstery and re-contour the
> foam correctly. And this time I will test the shape before reinstalling the
> leather!
>
> Rick
>
> _______________________________________________
> Mgs at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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>
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>
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 28 09:25:04 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 10:25:04 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] To do
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From ejrussell at mebtel.net  Wed Aug 28 13:20:40 2019
From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric Russell)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:20:40 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] To do
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When I decided to re-restore my MGA the 'To Do' list had three entries.

1) repair body
2) replace chassis
3) rebuild drivetrain

It is good to break it down into easy to complete tasks...

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC



From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Wed Aug 28 13:54:28 2019
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 14:54:28 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] To do
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From britfan1 at epix.net  Sat Aug 31 11:58:38 2019
From: britfan1 at epix.net (S. Carr)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 13:58:38 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed
Message-ID: <B662F8B4A0AB42F29DEF8AE29F90452B@HomePC>

Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack for a 1970/71 B?  Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous owner ever lubricated it....

Sarah Carr
B/GT in PA
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From ejrussell at mebtel.net  Sat Aug 31 12:26:56 2019
From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric Russell)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 14:26:56 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed
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Try disconnecting the tie rod ends and re-assessing. The MG rack & 
pinion is quite sturdy. While it is possible the R&P could seize, I 
think it more likely one or both kingpins would seize - especially if 
the rubber seals have perished and it has not been greased regularly.

Eric Russell
Mebane, NC
>     1. MGB rack&pinion needed (S. Carr)
>
> Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering rack for a 1970/71 B?  Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no previous owner ever lubricated it....
>
> Sarah Carr
> B/GT in PA


From cgmoog at optonline.net  Sat Aug 31 19:19:21 2019
From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog)
Date: Sat, 31 Aug 2019 21:19:21 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB rack&pinion needed
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Funny you should ask, I spent this morning cleaning car parts out of my 
mother's house as we prepare to sell it.  I have a rack from a 1969 
parts car.  I've never drove the car before removing the rack 25 years 
ago.  Rack seems fine.  You can have it.  I'm in Orange County NY.

I want someone to use it not sell it.


On 8/31/2019 1:58 PM, S. Carr via Mgs wrote:
> Anyone in/near northeastern Pennsylvania have a good used steering 
> rack for a 1970/71 B?  Steering on my B/GT has seized up?apparently no 
> previous owner ever lubricated it....
> Sarah Carr
> B/GT in PA
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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From joealexandervintage at gmail.com  Wed Aug 28 14:57:13 2019
From: joealexandervintage at gmail.com (Joe Alexander)
Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2019 15:57:13 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Replace TR6 Chassis
Message-ID: <9480E8F2-FEB9-4F0B-898E-CD4361B74BA4@gmail.com>

I may have a source of several chassis to choose from. And other components.

NFI.   Ron Brainard...Cedar Falls, Iowa

Regards,

Joe Alexander
4505 Donald Dr
Cedar Falls, IA 50613
The-vintage-racer.com
Gasketinnovations.com
Cell:  319.464.4711