From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Tue Nov  1 01:29:21 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 08:29:21 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  Cowl vent drainage
References: <4EAF79B3.5020804@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <3067FB333C894259B31BD86A78B65272@paul>

Not so.  It is shown in the Parts Catalogue as being used right up to the 
end of production, and a very similar item was used on the FWD Metro of the 
80s and 90s.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> The point of the duckbill was to try to keep engine fumes out of the 
> passenger area. They stopped making it fairly early on which just goes to 
> show you we think more of them than they thought of us.

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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 23:55:56 GMT
From: "Phil Bacon" <pboldtrix at juno.com>
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] Cowl vent drainage
Message-ID: <20111030.195556.20023.0 at webmail55.vgs.untd.com>
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Can anyone give me some tips on how to restore the cowl vent drainage, if
any,
in my 67 MGBGT?   Every time I'm caught in the rain, (happens often in Fla),
water gets in and when I open the cabin vent, water slops all over the
footwells.I've poked around with a coat hanger and looked with a flashlight,
but can see no drain hole. Is there one, and if so, where is it?  Any tips
on
this would be greatly appreciated.  Guess I need to get one of those
magnetic
covers, but I like the ventilation.... TIA,  Phil Bacon 1967 MGBGT

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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 20:44:42 -0500
From: Paul Root <ptrmgb at gmail.com>
To: Phil Bacon <pboldtrix at juno.com>
Cc: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Cowl vent drainage
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There is a rubber drain on the bottom in the transmission tunnel under the
car. It fills up with junk.

It's on the passenger side (LHD) of the transmission, near the firewall.

On Oct 30, 2011, at 6:55 PM, Phil Bacon wrote:

> Can anyone give me some tips on how to restore the cowl vent drainage, if
any,
> in my 67 MGBGT?   Every time I'm caught in the rain, (happens often in
Fla),
> water gets in and when I open the cabin vent, water slops all over the
> footwells.I've poked around with a coat hanger and looked with a
flashlight,
> but can see no drain hole. Is there one, and if so, where is it?  Any tips
on
> this would be greatly appreciated.  Guess I need to get one of those
magnetic
> covers, but I like the ventilation.... TIA,  Phil Bacon 1967 MGBGT


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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:05:17 -0000
From: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "Phil Bacon" <pboldtrix at juno.com>, <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Cowl vent drainage
Message-ID: <FFF227D8BD174BF78F17B2B078F67E11 at paul>
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You should see hole down through the right-hand end of the grille, but only 
once it is dry, other wise you will have to prod around until you can feel 
it.  See http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/heatertext.htm#airb.  Be a bit careful 
prodding at it through, the rubber hose is secured onto a spigot and this 
can corrode, violent prodding if the hose is well blocked could break it 
off.  The problem is that the spigot is in a double-skinned portion of the 
tunnel and there is no easy way of getting at it to repair it, and further 
rain will fill the double-skinned part, either draining into the car through

seams or rotting it out.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> Can anyone give me some tips on how to restore the cowl vent drainage, if 
> any,
> in my 67 MGBGT? 


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From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Tue Nov  1 11:26:46 2011
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:26:46 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
References: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f>
	<CF46B8960F8043C0BD2DF114682C1741@paul>
Message-ID: <3D9CBF27B40849C4BF2888EF2C7D13F7@uw471de61b465c>

Dear list,

Last sunday the clutch hydraulics failed.
The fluid cannister was emptied by a leak somewhere down.
As the weather becomes colder, I want to do the job with the least of 
efforts.
So my question is: can I get near the slave cylinder and the flex hydraulic 
hose for troubleshooting and work without taking the starter motor out of 
the BGT?

Thanks for thinking with me.

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT 

From mgbob at juno.com  Tue Nov  1 11:56:27 2011
From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 18:56:27 GMT
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
Message-ID: <20111101.145627.32613.1@webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com>

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>
To: <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2011 19:26:46 +0100
Hans,
  It can be done with starter in place.  There is not much room to turn a
wrench, so disconnect the cable at the battery before anything else.
  Even if the hose seems OK, replace it while doing the job, and connect the
hose to the cylinder before bolting up the cylinder.
Bob



Dear list,

Last sunday the clutch hydraulics failed.
The fluid cannister was emptied by a leak somewhere down.
As the weather becomes colder, I want to do the job with the least of
efforts.
So my question is: can I get near the slave cylinder and the flex hydraulic
hose for troubleshooting and work without taking the starter motor out of
the BGT?

Thanks for thinking with me.

Cheers,

Hans

71 BGT
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From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Nov  1 17:05:47 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2011 19:05:47 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
In-Reply-To: <20111101.145627.32613.1@webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20111101.145627.32613.1@webmail-beta03.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4EB0895B.5000501@justbrits.com>

<< It can be done with starter in place. >>

Bob is correct, Hans !

<<There is not much room to turn a wrench, >>

AMEN ! ! ;-) O:-) If you can locate a set of "Stubbies" of the same
type/style as the  "Ratchet Wrench Set" ones in "Various Articles"
on my site.  FANTASTIC tools ! !  PLENTY of OTHER usages in
other locations on LBCs

<< so disconnect the cable at the battery before anything else. >>

TRIPLE "AMEN" ! ! !
  Unless you like welded tools & LOTS of sparks   LOL  ! ! !

<< Even if the hose seems OK, replace it while doing the job, >>

NO QUESTION, Hans ! !  Hoses can "look"  [ and frequently do ] like
they are new ! !

<< and connect the hose to the cylinder before bolting up the cylinder. >>

And do NOT forget NEW copper washer ! ! !

Ed

PS:  Tnx for kind P.M> <G> ! !

From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Tue Nov  1 20:08:03 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 03:08:03 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Cincinnati diff work
Message-ID: <1165234292.2011338.1320203283483.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

List, 



Anyone know the name of the guy in Cincinnati that changes T series diff gears to MGA ratios? 



Thanks, 



Ed Woods 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Nov  1 22:46:13 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:46:13 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] [Mg-t] speedo gaskets
In-Reply-To: <8CE6726CFD2AC99-CD4-5D22A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com>
References: <54545B9B52964C60AD2C2C2188523BC9@ranteer.local>
	<8CE6726CFD2AC99-CD4-5D22A@webmail-d051.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <4EB0D925.2080402@justbrits.com>

EASIER than you even having to THINK/look-up Terry..............

<<   http://www.britcot.com/Index.html   >>

would have been for LAZY BONES 'oliver' to just LOOK at the bottom of EVERY
List Post for the line that says:

<quote>
Archive:http://www.team.net/archive
</quote>

Simply AMAZING how WELL they WORK [instead of US<G>  ].

Ed

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Nov  2 01:40:46 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 08:40:46 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
References: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f><CF46B8960F8043C0BD2DF114682C1741@paul>
	<3D9CBF27B40849C4BF2888EF2C7D13F7@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <5EB5B31A32A5485B90F0AEF6CD1F84C0@paul>

The biggest problem is going to be undoing the steel pipe from the top of 
the flex and the hose itself from the chassis bracket.  Very restricted 
space, and if there is any corrosion it will make things much harder as 
usual.

The thing to do is try it without removing the starter first, but without 
damaging the nuts. Failing that try it with the starter out.  Failing that 
you may have to get brutal and grind the hose off below the bracket, then 
you may be able to pull the top part down below the bracket to part the 
remains of the hose from the steel pipe.  Or take the engine out ...

As far as order goes the cylinder and hose must be attached to the 
bell-housing before attaching the steel pipe to the top of the hose to avoid 
twists in the hose.  That said, it is easier to attach the cylinder to the 
bell-housing first, then the hose to the cylinder, before attaching the hose 
to the bracket and the steel pipe to the hose.

Are you sure the leak is from the slave end and not the master, running down 
the pedal and onto the carpet?

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> So my question is: can I get near the slave cylinder and the flex 
> hydraulic hose for troubleshooting and work without taking the starter 
> motor out of the BGT?

From barrie at look.ca  Wed Nov  2 12:50:49 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:50:49 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] Cincinnati diff work
In-Reply-To: <1165234292.2011338.1320203283483.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.wes
	tchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1165234292.2011338.1320203283483.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <E1RLhO8-0003k7-E3@iota.look.ca>

If someone knows - will they please tell too !


At 11:08 PM 11/1/2011, fogbro1 at comcast.net wrote:
>List,
>
>
>
>Anyone know the name of the guy in Cincinnati that changes T series 
>diff gears to MGA ratios?
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>
>Ed Woods
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Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060 

From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Wed Nov  2 13:58:17 2011
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 21:58:17 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
References: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f><CF46B8960F8043C0BD2DF114682C1741@paul>
	<3D9CBF27B40849C4BF2888EF2C7D13F7@uw471de61b465c>
	<5EB5B31A32A5485B90F0AEF6CD1F84C0@paul>
Message-ID: <19984048D1704C1B8A255EFB237B8A08@uw471de61b465c>

Hi Paul and all others,

Thanks for all good advise.

No leakage at tthe footwell, so I have to follow the hydraulic lines, in 
order to discover, where the outside has become wet.
What might have happened, is that the hose might have been damaged, when the 
engine has been overhauled two years ago. If the hose was fitted under 
continuous twist force, the hose is prone to fail prematurely.

Coming to the hose subject:
After what age should hydraulic hoses be renewed?
Mine are about 15 years of age and the fluid is DOT5.

Reading all replies, I think it is safe to remove the starter first.
I hope, I won't forget to fall into the trap I did before:
Remounting the starter, where the ignition cap holder clip falls between the 
starter and the engine.
The starter has to come out again, in order to fix this.

The reason why I am reluctant to remove the starter, is that all wiring has 
to be taken from the starter.
No big deal you would think.
Not really true: my starter has been removed so often in the past, that the 
nut holding the thick wires onto the solenoid did not fit anymore, because 
the screw thread on the solenoid was bust after so many times bolting the 
wires...
The car did not want to start at the end, because all thick wires became 
lose.
I had to replace the solenoid, which is quite costy.

Cheers,

Hans 71 BGT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
To: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>; <mgs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics


> The biggest problem is going to be undoing the steel pipe from the top of 
> the flex and the hose itself from the chassis bracket.  Very restricted 
> space, and if there is any corrosion it will make things much harder as 
> usual.
>
> The thing to do is try it without removing the starter first, but without 
> damaging the nuts. Failing that try it with the starter out.  Failing that 
> you may have to get brutal and grind the hose off below the bracket, then 
> you may be able to pull the top part down below the bracket to part the 
> remains of the hose from the steel pipe.  Or take the engine out ...
>
> As far as order goes the cylinder and hose must be attached to the 
> bell-housing before attaching the steel pipe to the top of the hose to 
> avoid twists in the hose.  That said, it is easier to attach the cylinder 
> to the bell-housing first, then the hose to the cylinder, before attaching 
> the hose to the bracket and the steel pipe to the hose.
>
> Are you sure the leak is from the slave end and not the master, running 
> down the pedal and onto the carpet?
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> So my question is: can I get near the slave cylinder and the flex 
>> hydraulic hose for troubleshooting and work without taking the starter 
>> motor out of the BGT?

From maine2me at yahoo.com  Wed Nov  2 14:11:21 2011
From: maine2me at yahoo.com (Dan Dwelley)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 17:11:21 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] MGB brakes on 1500 MGA
Message-ID: <09BB6DC0-7E5E-425A-A349-E69537E166B0@yahoo.com>

Hello all,

I've seen a couple of conversions for MGB discs on an MGA but what I'm curious
about is... Use the MGA lever arms with the MGB spindles and add spacers or
change out the arms on the shock with the MGB arms?

Thanks in advance.
Dan

From mvheim at sonic.net  Wed Nov  2 14:46:14 2011
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 14:46:14 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
In-Reply-To: <19984048D1704C1B8A255EFB237B8A08@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <CAD70836.35A81%mvheim@sonic.net>

One fix for the issue where the starter stud threads have been partially
stripped is to add a flat washer (or two, or three) to move the nut out on
the stud to where there hopefully might be some threads left.


--

Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires


on 11/2/11 1:58 PM, Hans Duinhoven at h.duinhoven at planet.nl wrote:

> Hi Paul and all others,
> 
> Thanks for all good advise.
> 
> No leakage at tthe footwell, so I have to follow the hydraulic lines, in
> order to discover, where the outside has become wet.
> What might have happened, is that the hose might have been damaged, when the
> engine has been overhauled two years ago. If the hose was fitted under
> continuous twist force, the hose is prone to fail prematurely.
> 
> Coming to the hose subject:
> After what age should hydraulic hoses be renewed?
> Mine are about 15 years of age and the fluid is DOT5.
> 
> Reading all replies, I think it is safe to remove the starter first.
> I hope, I won't forget to fall into the trap I did before:
> Remounting the starter, where the ignition cap holder clip falls between the
> starter and the engine.
> The starter has to come out again, in order to fix this.
> 
> The reason why I am reluctant to remove the starter, is that all wiring has
> to be taken from the starter.
> No big deal you would think.
> Not really true: my starter has been removed so often in the past, that the
> nut holding the thick wires onto the solenoid did not fit anymore, because
> the screw thread on the solenoid was bust after so many times bolting the
> wires...
> The car did not want to start at the end, because all thick wires became
> lose.
> I had to replace the solenoid, which is quite costy.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Hans 71 BGT
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
> To: "Hans Duinhoven" <h.duinhoven at planet.nl>; <mgs at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 02, 2011 9:40 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
> 
> 
>> The biggest problem is going to be undoing the steel pipe from the top of
>> the flex and the hose itself from the chassis bracket.  Very restricted
>> space, and if there is any corrosion it will make things much harder as
>> usual.
>> 
>> The thing to do is try it without removing the starter first, but without
>> damaging the nuts. Failing that try it with the starter out.  Failing that
>> you may have to get brutal and grind the hose off below the bracket, then
>> you may be able to pull the top part down below the bracket to part the
>> remains of the hose from the steel pipe.  Or take the engine out ...
>> 
>> As far as order goes the cylinder and hose must be attached to the
>> bell-housing before attaching the steel pipe to the top of the hose to
>> avoid twists in the hose.  That said, it is easier to attach the cylinder
>> to the bell-housing first, then the hose to the cylinder, before attaching
>> the hose to the bracket and the steel pipe to the hose.
>> 
>> Are you sure the leak is from the slave end and not the master, running
>> down the pedal and onto the carpet?
>> 
>> PaulH.
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> So my question is: can I get near the slave cylinder and the flex
>>> hydraulic hose for troubleshooting and work without taking the starter
>>> motor out of the BGT?

From stargazer1 at cox.net  Wed Nov  2 15:17:38 2011
From: stargazer1 at cox.net (David Ambrose)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 15:17:38 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Wheel cylinder snap ring issue- HELP
In-Reply-To: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f>
References: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f>
Message-ID: <4EB1C182.8050004@cox.net>

I install them with the curve facing down. I've been placing them atop 
the wheel cylinder with the two ears engaging the groove, I then take a 
pair of channel-lock pliers set fairly wide and facing straight on to 
the backing plate, engage the top of the clip with one side of the 
pliers, and the bottom of the slave cylinder inlet with the other. 
Squeezing the pliers pushes the clip around the slave cylinder inlet, 
and I seat the ears in the groove with a screwdriver.

I've never found any kind of percussive seating to work.

Cheers,
Dave Ambrose


On 10/29/2011 9:37 AM, davewillner wrote:
> I've spent the last 2 hours trying to fit the curved retaining ring into the
> channel on the rear wheel cylinder to hold it in place. This is the curved one
> with three tabs that I believe fit into the grove. The frozen original one
> doesn't have a channel or retaining ring and they came out fairly easily,
> except for one...Anyway what's the trick to snapping these in place, does the
> curve face up or down, how does one fit it in place? I've tried almost
> everything... thanks, appreciate the help

From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Nov  2 16:40:06 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:40:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Diff ratios
Message-ID: <983057250.2063943.1320277206165.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

List,

B 

The guy who changed my TF diff ratio to the standard MGA, 4.3:1, was Dave Zyp
. Don't know if he's still in business, but I found a phone number:
513.922.8076. At the time, around 1989, he owned a business by the name of
Motor Good Restorations. The conversion ran well, right out of the box: 2000
miles on the Circuit of Britain.

B 

I also found the following in Cincinnati. http:// mgrepairs .com/

Owner is a fellow by the name of Jim Pesta . He mentions working with Dave Zyp
in the development of the jigs required to make this conversion.

B 

Ed Woods

From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Wed Nov  2 16:51:28 2011
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (fogbro1 at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 23:51:28 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mgs] Determining the diff ratio
Message-ID: <1402760359.2064757.1320277888585.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

List, 



Just to confirm the MGA ratio in my TF, I did the following: 



1. Jacked l/r wheel off garage floor, r/r left on floor to prevent rotation, gearbox in neutral. 

2. Rotated l/r wheel 10 turns while counting driveshaft bolts as they went by. Counted 86. 

3. Divided driveshaft bolts by 4 to get driveshaft revs. 86/4=21.5 

4. Divided driveshaft revs by wheel reves. 21.5/10=2.15 

5. Multiplied by 2. 2.15x2=4.3 (the standard MGA diff ratio. 



Apologies to all those who "knew this already", but in searching the web to confirm my recollection of this procedure, I found everything from "it can't be done" to "divide by 2" and even " take the cover off the diff and count teeth". 



Ed Woods 

From shop at justbrits.com  Wed Nov  2 21:15:51 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 23:15:51 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] So you want to ship your car..............
Message-ID: <4EB21577.1060303@justbrits.com>

CHEAPLY ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

********************************************************************
How Not to UN-load your sports car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlqsUQIoV3s&feature=related
*********************************************************************

Wanna RE-think that "idea" ? ! ?

Anon

From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Wed Nov  2 22:24:56 2011
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2011 00:24:56 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Determining the diff ratio
In-Reply-To: <1402760359.2064757.1320277888585.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.wes
	tchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1402760359.2064757.1320277888585.JavaMail.root@sz0058a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <93677.680.qm@smtp101.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

You just didn't look in the right place.  See here:
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/rearaxle/ra105.htm

Otherwise you did pretty much the right thing, just took the long way 
around with the math.


At 11:51 PM 11/2/2011 +0000, Ed Woods <fogbro1 at comcast.net> wrote:
>....
>Just to confirm the MGA ratio in my TF, I did the following:
>
>1. Jacked l/r wheel off garage floor, r/r left on floor to prevent 
>rotation, gearbox in neutral.
>2. Rotated l/r wheel 10 turns while counting driveshaft bolts as 
>they went by. Counted 86.
>3. Divided driveshaft bolts by 4 to get driveshaft revs. 86/4=21.5
>4. Divided driveshaft revs by wheel reves. 21.5/10=2.15
>5. Multiplied by 2. 2.15x2=4.3 (the standard MGA diff ratio.
>
>Apologies to all those who "knew this already", but in searching the 
>web to confirm my recollection of this procedure, I found everything 
>from "it can't be done" to "divide by 2" and even " take the cover 
>off the diff and count teeth".
>....

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Nov  3 02:22:34 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 09:22:34 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Leaky clutch hydraulics
References: <2886BB66741B4180814E3A3981A59A20@valued9cfc0b6f><CF46B8960F8043C0BD2DF114682C1741@paul>
	<3D9CBF27B40849C4BF2888EF2C7D13F7@uw471de61b465c>
	<5EB5B31A32A5485B90F0AEF6CD1F84C0@paul>
	<19984048D1704C1B8A255EFB237B8A08@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <D983D8650F5C419999BACFED076672B7@paul>

Don't forget to remove the battery earth strap first and replace it last!

If the solenoid has been replaced because of the stripped thread, and this 
is the first time the wiring has been off since, you should be fine, just 
don't overtighten.

The trouble is brake fluid evaporates, on the ground at any rate, so you may 
need to put some more in, and bleed it, to see where it is coming from.

Workshop Manual states 36,000 miles or 36 months for all hydraulic *brake* 
seals, nothing about clutch or hoses.  Personally I replace brake hoses when 
there is any fine surface cracking evident, and when I replaced the 
callipers.  Likewise when I replaced the V8 master I replaced the flex hose 
and slave as a matter of course - fortunately the V8 hose is a lot easier 
than the 4-cylinder.  I really cussed when we had to change the slave on a 
4-cylinder after a clutch change, we had of course already had the engine 
out, but it was back in before we discovered the slave problem.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> No leakage at tthe footwell, so I have to follow the hydraulic lines, in 
> order to discover, where the outside has become wet.

From steve at coastaldatasystems.com  Thu Nov  3 05:51:37 2011
From: steve at coastaldatasystems.com (Stephen West-Fisher)
Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2011 08:51:37 -0400
Subject: [Mgs] So you want to ship your car..............
In-Reply-To: <4EB21577.1060303@justbrits.com>
References: <4EB21577.1060303@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <00d401cc9a27$534f9bf0$f9eed3d0$@com>

Strange, I would have thought the wing at the back would have helped the
landing.

--
Stephen West-Fisher
N4IK

-----Original Message-----
From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of " Just Brits " Shop
Sent: Thursday, November 03, 2011 12:16 AM
To: 4 - Healeys; 4 - MG List; 4 - MG Ts; 4 - Spridgets
Subject: [Mgs] So you want to ship your car..............

CHEAPLY ? ! ? ! ? ! ?

********************************************************************
How Not to UN-load your sports car

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlqsUQIoV3s&feature=related
*********************************************************************

Wanna RE-think that "idea" ? ! ?

From rolds at plausa.com  Sat Nov  5 04:24:44 2011
From: rolds at plausa.com (Ron Olds)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 11:24:44 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Vintique Inc 3rd Brake Light
Message-ID: <D41EE0DF20A47D48BF555A3204A3B9E54D1AE268@MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.com>

Hello Everyone,

I'm looking for a little help or advice.

I purchased from Moss a while back one of their Vintique Inc LED 3rd Brake
lamp assemblies (116-115). Last week end I finally got around to installing it
on my TR6.  Before installing it I tested it and all the LEDs worked fine.
After installing it only two of the LEDs now light up.  I haven't too closely
at the unit yet.

Anyone else had this experience or suggestions.


Ron Olds

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Nov  5 06:48:01 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2011 13:48:01 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Vintique Inc 3rd Brake Light
References: <D41EE0DF20A47D48BF555A3204A3B9E54D1AE268@MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.com>
Message-ID: <D235BAF3ABAE4EA9915ECA8DC02060B5@paul>

Assuming there are only two wires going to it, the unit must be faulty. 
Which two LEDs still work, two at one end or an odd two?
PaulH.


----- Original Message ----- 
> I purchased from Moss a while back one of their Vintique Inc LED 3rd Brake
> lamp assemblies (116-115). Last week end I finally got around to 
> installing it
> on my TR6.  Before installing it I tested it and all the LEDs worked fine.
> After installing it only two of the LEDs now light up.  I haven't too 
> closely
> at the unit yet.

From maine2me at yahoo.com  Sun Nov  6 05:13:30 2011
From: maine2me at yahoo.com (Dan Dwelley)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 04:13:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mgs] Lever arm shock question
Message-ID: <1320581610.17583.YahooMailNeo@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Is one side of the MGB lever arm shock a press fit or spline fit? looks like a spline but I'm thinking it may be a press fit.


Thanks!
Dan
56 MGA
68 MGB
69MGB GT

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun Nov  6 06:54:16 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 13:54:16 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Lever arm shock question
References: <1320581610.17583.YahooMailNeo@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <5E3F0F93537949AF8DCBA0D35034B464@paul>

I'm pretty sure I found that to be the case when trying to remove one some 
years ago.  In any event it didn't come off.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> Is one side of the MGB lever arm shock a press fit or spline fit? looks 
> like a spline but I'm thinking it may be a press fit.

From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Sun Nov  6 09:21:47 2011
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2011 10:21:47 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Lever arm shock question
In-Reply-To: <1320581610.17583.YahooMailNeo@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
  >
References: <1320581610.17583.YahooMailNeo@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <523003.129.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Both splined and press pit on one side.


At 04:13 AM 11/6/2011 -0800, Dan Dwelley wrote:
>Is one side of the MGB lever arm shock a press fit or spline fit? 
>looks like a spline but I'm thinking it may be a press fit.
>....

From dannyvarnado at cox.net  Sun Nov  6 09:58:12 2011
From: dannyvarnado at cox.net (dannyvarnado)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 08:58:12 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Lever arm shock question
References: <1320581610.17583.YahooMailNeo@web114106.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <52BC06B1E0DC4AEBB5F8E8218F67E41F@dannytyferm096>

Dan,
It's a very tight spine fit.  It can be pressed off with a home press but 
you have to fit various pieces of plate around the arm.  I also had to use C 
clamps.  It took some "trial and error" to set up but I was able to press it 
apart.
Danny V.
'58 MGA
'68 MGB
'76 MGB 3.4 V6
('70 Triumph TR6)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan Dwelley" <maine2me at yahoo.com>
To: "MG List" <mgs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 4:13 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Lever arm shock question


> Is one side of the MGB lever arm shock a press fit or spline fit? looks 
> like a spline but I'm thinking it may be a press fit.
>
>
> Thanks!
> Dan
> 56 MGA
> 68 MGB
> 69MGB GT
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From rolds at plausa.com  Sun Nov  6 14:36:32 2011
From: rolds at plausa.com (Ron Olds)
Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2011 21:36:32 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] [Shop-talk] Vintique Inc 3rd Brake Light
In-Reply-To: <302BA3F9DD624C5890C391C17270D16E@EntCentPC>
References: <D41EE0DF20A47D48BF555A3204A3B9E54D1AE268@MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.com>
	<302BA3F9DD624C5890C391C17270D16E@EntCentPC>
Message-ID: <D41EE0DF20A47D48BF555A3204A3B9E54D1AE558@MSERVER.PLASSERUSA.com>

Jack,

Thanks for the information.

The situation is getting stranger.  Today I looked at it briefly  and now all
the lights are working except the two that were working (but aren't now).  the
two that are not working are the 7th and 8th from one end.

Ron Olds

-----Original Message-----
From: shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jack Brooks
Sent: Sunday, November 06, 2011 12:27 AM
To: 'Triumphs'; mgs at autox.team.net; mg-t at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net;
shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Vintique Inc 3rd Brake Light

Ron,

Using the lamp in a TR6's electrical system will provide more robust test than
testing off the car, so the voltage variances in the TR6 may have caused an
issue.  A lot of lower line LED lamps are built with too few resistors
controlling the amperage to the individual LEDs and fail quickly, or perhaps
there is a misfabrication.  If you can/want to open it up and verify the
circuitry is correct, here is a calculator I have used to design LED circuits.
If the resistance is off, LED's can fail quickly.

http://led.linear1.org/led.wiz

Personally, I'd call Moss up and talk with tech services before I opened it up
and potentially void a warrantee.  They may have already seen a failure
pattern with this item and can take care of you quickly.

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:shop-talk-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Ron Olds
Sent: Saturday, November 05, 2011 4:25 AM
To: Triumphs (triumphs at autox.team.net); mgs at autox.team.net;
mg-t at autox.team.net; 6pack at autox.team.net; shop-talk at autox.team.net
Subject: [Shop-talk] Vintique Inc 3rd Brake Light

Hello Everyone,

I'm looking for a little help or advice.

I purchased from Moss a while back one of their Vintique Inc LED 3rd Brake
lamp assemblies (116-115). Last week end I finally got around to installing it
on my TR6.  Before installing it I tested it and all the LEDs worked fine.
After installing it only two of the LEDs now light up.  I haven't too closely
at the unit yet.

Anyone else had this experience or suggestions.


Ron Olds

From montejane at gmail.com  Mon Nov  7 10:52:02 2011
From: montejane at gmail.com (Monte/Jane Morris)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 11:52:02 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] non-starting issue
Message-ID: <CAHEsxHrLyuY2Q1TWse84MBPHB9T8yQQ49MpT_P9iLLW2m3DBkQ@mail.gmail.com>

*I've *evidently lost the help request email, but a few weeks ago I asked
for help about a 79B that had sat for 6 months and wasn't starting even
though it was running fine when parked. The fuel pump chattered away when I
first turned the key, but I thought it may have been gas sitting in the
tanak for too long.
I did check for fuel flow as someone suggested and it was fine. Another
suggested (Bob?) that the floats may be stuck and to rap the bottom of the
carb a little; which I did. It started and ran fine then. So thanks to all
for the help. I get back to lurking, once again:).
Monte

From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Mon Nov  7 14:09:31 2011
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 22:09:31 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Nice project spotted
Message-ID: <A7D0D46A11E94EB9878979B19BEF494A@uw471de61b465c>

http://www.gpe.fi/index_mgc.htm 

Cheers,

Hans Duinhoven
with just the simple but enjoyable 71 BGT 

From ccrobins at ktc.com  Tue Nov  8 07:26:28 2011
From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley & Peggy Robinson)
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2011 08:26:28 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Nice project spotted
In-Reply-To: <A7D0D46A11E94EB9878979B19BEF494A@uw471de61b465c>
References: <A7D0D46A11E94EB9878979B19BEF494A@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <4EB93C14.7010306@ktc.com>

This guy Leif must be rollin' in dough. :-)

CR
'69 MGB

On 11/7/2011 3:09 PM, Hans Duinhoven wrote:
> http://www.gpe.fi/index_mgc.htm
> Cheers,
>
> Hans Duinhoven
> with just the simple but enjoyable 71 BGT
> _______________________________________________

From qualitas.jack at gmail.com  Tue Nov  8 13:23:48 2011
From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman)
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:23:48 -0600
Subject: [Mgs]  Nice project spotted
Message-ID: <CAGhWe-eQwNHqeXAmX-+txa+Ywb-32Gc-7ZqvRanAHTg23SNq7A@mail.gmail.com>

If you google *How to develop the MGC GT *you will find a more sane way of
doing it*.* What was done didn't leave an MGC, but a shell. No need to do
either of the approaches.

The first thing I did was change the shocks. The C has tube shocks in the
front, and an MGB rear shock conversion kit kit was a simple install. Then
I replaced the roll bar with an uprated one. Drove all over the country to
the MGC meets. Great road car.Once I drove from Pensacola to Downers Grove,
about 1650 miles in 18 hours. Easy.

The car is now with my son in Portland, Oregon. The problem there is that
many of the rallys are on twisty roads. The C came with 31/2 turns lock to
lock, A quick rack made that 21/2 just like the MG. Heavy at slow speeds,
but great on twisting roads.

No long distance here, but just the trip from Portland to Reno last summer.
A great ride.

Jack

From barrie at look.ca  Sun Nov 13 11:40:55 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 13:40:55 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Steering wheel
Message-ID: <E1RPezE-0006Da-EH@theta.look.ca>

Does anyone want a 1977 and on, steering wheel ?

Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060 

From rpschauss at gmail.com  Sun Nov 13 20:05:22 2011
From: rpschauss at gmail.com (Peter Schauss)
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 22:05:22 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Adjusting valves- cold or hot
Message-ID: <4ec08572.e426340a.3469.ffff9ae9@mx.google.com>

The specification page on my Haynes manual gives two numbers for the valve
clearance: 0.015" cold and 0.013" hot.  On my '80 B, I have been setting the
valves hot for the past 20 years/70k miles.  How much difference would it
actually make if I set the cold?

Peter Schauss
1980 MGB

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon Nov 14 01:48:48 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 08:48:48 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Adjusting valves- cold or hot
References: <4ec08572.e426340a.3469.ffff9ae9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <D6BC081C7CD74C3BB7B0A917B2743476@paul>

Personally I've always used cold as it's stable, if set hot it's cooling 
down all the while, although I've no idea what practical difference that 
makes.  It does help the hands if doing it in the winter, but then I do mine 
in warmer weather anyway.  It also depends on whether you are simply 
checking them, or having to adjust them, the latter can take significantly 
longer hence the cooling will be greater.

One time when you should definitely *not* do it hot is if you remove the 
plugs to make turning the engine easier and have an alloy head, as that can 
bugger the threads.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> The specification page on my Haynes manual gives two numbers for the valve
> clearance: 0.015" cold and 0.013" hot.  On my '80 B, I have been setting 
> the
> valves hot for the past 20 years/70k miles.  How much difference would it
> actually make if I set the cold?

From cgmoog at optonline.net  Mon Nov 14 04:29:35 2011
From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog)
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 06:29:35 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Adjusting valves- cold or hot
In-Reply-To: <4ec08572.e426340a.3469.ffff9ae9@mx.google.com>
References: <4ec08572.e426340a.3469.ffff9ae9@mx.google.com>
Message-ID: <4EC0FB9E.10802@optonline.net>

About 0.002 of an inch.

On 11/13/2011 10:05 PM, Peter Schauss wrote:
> The specification page on my Haynes manual gives two numbers for the valve
> clearance: 0.015" cold and 0.013" hot.  On my '80 B, I have been setting the
> valves hot for the past 20 years/70k miles.  How much difference would it
> actually make if I set the cold?
>
> Peter Schauss
> 1980 MGB
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From barrie at look.ca  Tue Nov 15 15:37:08 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:37:08 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG cursor
Message-ID: <E1RQRdO-0003Qh-DS@iota.look.ca>

I have file which puts up a cursor which is a spinning MG 
octagon.  Its suffix is .ani.  I use to remember how to make it work 
so I need some advice - how do I activate it?   If you want a copy let me know.

Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
(705) 721-9060 

From ptrmgb at gmail.com  Tue Nov 15 16:53:51 2011
From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:53:51 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] [Mgb-v8] MG cursor
In-Reply-To: <E1RQRdO-0003Qh-DS@iota.look.ca>
References: <E1RQRdO-0003Qh-DS@iota.look.ca>
Message-ID: <B6D06987-1CF8-42A8-A4DE-37C60F0FCB5F@gmail.com>

I think it's Control Panel -> Mouse
Pointers tab. Click browse, and select the file.


I have that around here somewhere too. I wonder if it would work on a Mac?

On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote:

> I have file which puts up a cursor which is a spinning MG octagon.  Its
suffix is .ani.  I use to remember how to make it work so I need some advice -
how do I activate it?   If you want a copy let me know.
>
> Regards
>
> Barrie
> barrie at look.ca
> (705) 721-9060 _______________________________________________
>
> Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Suggested annual donation  $11.47
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From mjanacek at snet.net  Tue Nov 15 17:34:18 2011
From: mjanacek at snet.net (Mike Janacek)
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:34:18 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] MG cursor
In-Reply-To: <E1RQRdO-0003Qh-DS@iota.look.ca>
References: <E1RQRdO-0003Qh-DS@iota.look.ca>
Message-ID: <4EC3050A.3040505@snet.net>

Copy the cursor to your Windows/Cursors folder.
Go into Control Panel and double-click Mouse.
Click the Pointers Tab.
Click on the cursor you want to replace from the list.
Click on browse and select the new MG cursor you copied before.
Click OK and close any windows you opened.

The above is for W7. XP should be very similar.
Mike

On 11/15/2011 5:37 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote:
> I have file which puts up a cursor which is a spinning MG
> octagon.  Its suffix is .ani.  I use to remember how to make it work
> so I need some advice - how do I activate it?   If you want a copy let me know.
>
> Regards
>
> Barrie
> barrie at look.ca
> (705) 721-9060

From schultejim at msn.com  Wed Nov 16 07:37:29 2011
From: schultejim at msn.com (James Schulte )
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:37:29 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
Message-ID: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>

Folks
What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
Jim
70 B
58 Magnette ZB w/ B series engine
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From dcouncill at msubillings.edu  Wed Nov 16 08:25:59 2011
From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 15:25:59 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <E7D7B13F08EBC4438FAEAFB46F80C1FA357AF2A8@BILEXMB02.msubillings.edu>

Yes, that would be the one.

David Councill
67 BGT
64 B
72 B

-----Original Message-----
From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of James Schulte
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 7:37 AM
To: Mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter

Folks
What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
Jim
70 B
58 Magnette ZB w/ B series engine
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T

From barrie at look.ca  Wed Nov 16 08:56:28 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:56:28 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Rotating octagon
Message-ID: <E1RQhqi-0007vh-3x@epsilon.look.ca>

Thank you gentlemen.   I now have a rotating MG octagon pointer

Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060 

From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Wed Nov 16 08:57:57 2011
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 09:57:57 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <120605.18276.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>

It depends on which mounting adapter you use.  See here:
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/of100b.htm
http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/of100b1.htm


At 02:37 PM 11/16/2011 +0000, James Schulte wrote:
>....
>What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
>engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
>....

From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com  Wed Nov 16 11:12:13 2011
From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 10:12:13 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <120605.18276.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
References: <BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60@phx.gbl>
	<120605.18276.qm@smtp109.sbc.mail.ne1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <CAEUYfyOOmzucUp+NrMumrLMX_HgQX6og5pAM4-AcFyMV8dPPbQ@mail.gmail.com>

My daughter's '71 MGB-GT uses a 1515 filter. The same as was used on  the
Voyager that I used to own.

Simon

On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:57 AM, Barney Gaylord <barneymg at mgaguru.com>wrote:

> It depends on which mounting adapter you use.  See here:
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/**engine/of100b.htm<http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/of100b.htm>
> http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/**engine/of100b1.htm<http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/engine/of100b1.htm>
>
>
> At 02:37 PM 11/16/2011 +0000, James Schulte wrote:
>
>> ....
>>
>> What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
>> engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
>> ....

From mike at duvallvideo.com  Wed Nov 16 13:06:39 2011
From: mike at duvallvideo.com (Duvall Video Productions)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 14:06:39 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Mgs Digest, Vol 54, Issue 12
In-Reply-To: <mailman.9.1321470003.8066.mgs@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.9.1321470003.8066.mgs@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <3F521D74-06F7-43D8-BCF9-65551DCD3A1F@duvallvideo.com>

MIghty Mouse for Mac will let you change the cursor and use .ani files on a
Mac.....

On Nov 16, 2011, at 1:00 PM, mgs-request at autox.team.net wrote:

>
> I think it's Control Panel -> Mouse
> Pointers tab. Click browse, and select the file.
>
>
> I have that around here somewhere too. I wonder if it would work on a Mac?
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 4:37 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote:
>
>> I have file which puts up a cursor which is a spinning MG octagon.  Its
> suffix is .ani.  I use to remember how to make it work so I need some advice
-
> how do I activate it?   If you want a copy let me know.

From g.schnittke at comcast.net  Wed Nov 16 19:16:28 2011
From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:16:28 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter
Message-ID: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>

It might also go under 51068. That's the number we use at the shop but 
it's the same part as 1068.

Glenn

> Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
> Message-ID:<BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
>
> Folks
> What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
> engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?

From dave at ranteer.com  Wed Nov 16 20:02:27 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:02:27 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
References: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <990C89083F5E4F78BBE1682CB1C01B07@ranteer.local>

if I'm not mistaken, the 51068 is the wix #.  according to the guy behind 
the counter at my local napa, wix makes the filters.  the 5 is dropped by 
napa

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Glenn Schnittke" <g.schnittke at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 8:16 PM
To: <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter

> It might also go under 51068. That's the number we use at the shop but 
> it's the same part as 1068.
>
> Glenn
>
>> Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
>> Message-ID:<BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
>>
>> Folks
>> What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B 
>> series
>> engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
> _______________________________________________ 

From schultejim at msn.com  Wed Nov 16 20:28:29 2011
From: schultejim at msn.com (James Schulte)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:28:29 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
References: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BAY157-W4365250B09B6380949276BDBC70@phx.gbl>

Thanks Glenn and everyone that has offered help.1068 it is.

Jim Schulte
President Lehigh Valley Kayak & Canoe Club

 > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 20:16:28 -0600
> From: g.schnittke at comcast.net
> To: mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter
>
> It might also go under 51068. That's the number we use at the shop but
> it's the same part as 1068.
>
> Glenn
>
> > Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
> > Message-ID:<BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60 at phx.gbl>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
> >
> > Folks
> > What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B
series
> > engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
> _______________________________________________
>
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From ptrmgb at gmail.com  Wed Nov 16 20:32:34 2011
From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:32:34 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Re;  NAPA oil filter
In-Reply-To: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
References: <4EC46E7C.4010606@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <398C0BB3-AB9B-466F-854C-60D3274A3CAC@gmail.com>

That would be the Wix part number.

On Nov 16, 2011, at 8:16 PM, Glenn Schnittke wrote:

> It might also go under 51068. That's the number we use at the shop but it's
the same part as 1068.
>
> Glenn
>
>> Subject: [Mgs] NAPA oil filter
>> Message-ID:<BAY157-ds102190D4B25FA76C83288FDBC60 at phx.gbl>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-15"
>>
>> Folks
>> What is the part # for the NAPA Gold oil filter that fits an 1800 B series
>> engine? I bought a #1060 and the diameter is to big. Is it #1068?
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From dcouncill at msubillings.edu  Fri Nov 18 11:13:58 2011
From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David)
Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:13:58 +0000
Subject: [Mgs] Generator problems - 64B
Message-ID: <E7D7B13F08EBC4438FAEAFB46F80C1FA357B703E@BILEXMB01.msubillings.edu>

My 64B had a generator failure a few weeks ago. That wouldn't be unusual
except that I have been bringing this car back to life after sitting in an
Oregon garage for almost 30 years and this represents a failure of a recently
restored part (less than a year, less than 500 miles). I had a local auto
electric place repair it and they indicated the armature had failed this time.
This was an old generator that used to be in my 67BGT.  I used it to replace
the old non-working generator in the 64B which turned out to be a different
size so I had to adjust the bracket on the engine for the change.

So here is the crux of the problem. The generator that was originally in the
64B is a Lucas 22763E unit which a search on the Internet indicates is a C40L
that may have been used in some Triumphs. It appears to be a higher output
generator. I had the auto electric place test my generator collection and the
control box. He repaired both generators but a third spare he said was a lost
cause except for the case. He said the other generator (the standard MGB one),
after replacing the armature, still runs warm to hot compared to the C40L
unit, using the voltage regulator that came with the 64B. Which makes me
wonder - would the control box (aka voltage regulator) be relatively universal
or would they be fairly specific to model of generator? I thought the Moss
catalog would answer this question but I cannot even locate the MGB control
box in their catalog for some reason and I cannot tell for sure what Triumphs
used the C40L (a post on the Internet indicated a person had one in his 68
GT6).

David Councill
64 B
67 BGT
72 B

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Nov 19 03:05:17 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 10:05:17 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Generator problems - 64B
References: <E7D7B13F08EBC4438FAEAFB46F80C1FA357B703E@BILEXMB01.msubillings.edu>
Message-ID: <8A7727BEC98B4EA1B199A1A4AC2BC0D0@paul>

I'd expect the 3-coil control boxes to be specific to the generator to some 
extent, because the 3rd coil is the current regulator.  If you put a 
high-output generator on a standard-output control box you wouldn't get the 
benefit of the extra output.  It depends what load he was putting on the 
generators, i.e. was it a standard load or a variable one pertaining to the 
generator.  But again I would expect a lower-output generator to run hotter 
than a higher-output generator on a given load.

I can't find the control box on the Moss sites either, US or Europe, even 
searching for the three part numbers I'm aware of, but can on other vendors 
sites.  There are more references on Google to the RB340 item than the ones 
in the MGB Parts Catalogue, and the indications are that that comes in 
different flavours typically 11 amps, 22 amps and 25 amps.

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 

> ... Which makes me
> wonder - would the control box (aka voltage regulator) be relatively 
> universal
> or would they be fairly specific to model of generator? 

From shop at justbrits.com  Tue Nov 22 09:50:31 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:50:31 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: [...H...ealeys] TinyV-12
Message-ID: <4ECBD2D7.7@justbrits.com>

_*This is UN-REAL ! ! ! ! !*_

-------- Original Message --------

_*Amazing  !*_*   *    http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/

_______________________________________________

From d_dibiase at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 22 11:39:17 2011
From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 10:39:17 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: [...H...ealeys] TinyV-12
In-Reply-To: <4ECBD2D7.7@justbrits.com>
References: <4ECBD2D7.7@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <1321987157.87791.YahooMailNeo@web39420.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Very cool. But did they put spark plugs in??

I saw this the other day...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9zt3SF_Flc

Great exhaust note.....

Dan D
Central NJ USA



________________________________
 From: "" Just Brits "
Shop" <shop at justbrits.com>
To: 4 - MG Ts <mg-t at autox.team.net>; 4 - MGs
<Mgs at autox.team.net>; 4 - Spridgets <spridgets at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Tuesday,
November 22, 2011 11:50 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: [...H...ealeys] TinyV-12
_*This is UN-REAL ! ! ! ! !*_

-------- Original Message --------

_*Amazing 
!*_*   *    http://www.wimp.com/tiniestengine/
_______________________________________________
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From lundgren at byu.net  Tue Nov 22 19:09:03 2011
From: lundgren at byu.net (Andrew B. Lundgren)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2011 19:09:03 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Mg on tv.
Message-ID: <bbaa5544-5628-4efc-baa6-9a0a4b6a75bd@blur>

There was a nice mgb on a recent episode of Grimm. They said it was a 67.   
Not sure about that, but it was a blue cbb, and they didn't destroy it.  
Something to be said for that.

--
Andrew Lundgren
lundgren at byu.net

From mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com  Wed Nov 23 15:46:52 2011
From: mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com (W. David Houser)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:46:52 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
Message-ID: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>

Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?
Cheers,
Dave Houser

From lundgren at byu.net  Wed Nov 23 15:54:29 2011
From: lundgren at byu.net (Andrew B. Lundgren)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:54:29 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <4ECD79A5.7000606@byu.net>

The last one I saw was the post I made about the MGB in Grimm...

On 11/23/2011 03:46 PM, W. David Houser wrote:
> Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?
> Cheers,
> Dave Houser
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>
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From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com  Wed Nov 23 16:22:06 2011
From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:22:06 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <CAEUYfyNH20t3HaERgi6-4Z7M1dJCtwU5RYx1FBWV8nMDdmr9dw@mail.gmail.com>

You should see the "British-cars" list.

But yes, traffic has been in decline for a while. I remember the times when
a typical day was 20-30 emails on the list.

Simon

On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 2:46 PM, W. David Houser
<mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com>wrote:

> Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?
> Cheers,
> Dave Houser
> ______________________________**_________________
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From barrie at look.ca  Wed Nov 23 16:37:04 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:37:04 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
References: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
Message-ID: <E1RTMNH-00010X-Hp@eta.look.ca>

David,

You are right !   It is quiet.


At 05:46 PM 11/23/2011, W. David Houser wrote:
>Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?
>Cheers,
>Dave Houser
>_______________________________________________
>
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Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060 

From mgbob at juno.com  Fri Nov 25 10:30:36 2011
From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 17:30:36 GMT
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
Message-ID: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>

Traffic seems less to me also.
Bob


---------- Original Message ----------
From: "W. David Houser" <mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com>
To: MGList List <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
Date: Wed, 23 Nov 2011 17:46:52 -0500

Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?
Cheers,
Dave Houser
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Nov 25 15:27:02 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop)
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 16:27:02 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>

<< Traffic seems less to me also.>>

Yes, gents.  VERY, VERY "slo" traffic !

Now for something I would BET 99% of you NEVER thought of ! ! ! :-)

To "KNOW" what "List Traffic" is/or has been just go to the bottom of 
EVERY List Post
you receive [which in this case IS:     Archive: 
http://www.team.net/archive

And go to it.  ANY and ALL "List Traffic" will be shown easiest by "Selecting"  "Current Index" --->  MGs  ! ! !
  <VBG>  ! !

For example:
Nov 08----- = 2 posts..................................................................Nov 18----- = 9 posts [NO entry]
Nov 09----- = 0 posts [NO entry]..........................................Nov 19----- = 0 posts [NO entry]
Nov 10----- = 0 posts [NO entry]..........................................Nov 20----- = 1 posts
Nov 11 -----= 0 posts [NO entry]...........................................Nov 21----- = 1 posts
Nov 12----- = 0 posts [NO entry]..........................................Nov 22----- = 0 posts [NO entry]
Nov 13----- = 0 posts [NO entry].........................................Nov 21----- = 0 posts [NO entry]
Nov 14----- = 1 posts...................................................................Nov 22----- = 2 posts
Nov 15----- = 1 posts...................................................................Nov 23----- = 4 posts
Nov 16----- = 2 posts..................................................................Nov 24----- = 0 posts [NO entry]
Nov 17----- = 0 posts [NO entry]

Actually, [NO entry] means that there has been ZERO eMail ADDRESSED TO nor ACCEPTED
by Mark's NEW 'Program' to The List.

So, as you can see,  just clicking on a Link<G>  is WAY EASIER than posting TO The List and
then WAITING fir someone to answer<G><G><G>  !  ! !

Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com

PS:  Belated Happy Thanksgiving ! ! ! !

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sat Nov 26 03:13:34 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 10:13:34 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
References: <167A8B4B-6B3A-4E09-B6C5-C7D915C14244@tampabay.rr.com>
	<E1RTMNH-00010X-Hp@eta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <0092F5DF7E7748868888D7ACA7BD4C91@paul>

This reminds me of the silent order in a monastery, where one monk was 
allowed to address the others on one day each year.

One year a monk said "I can't stand the food".

Next year another monk said "I thing the food is really nice".

The next year another monk said "I'm leaving, I can't stand all this 
continual bickering about the food".

----- Original Message ----- 
>Is it me or has there been a significant drop in traffic lately?

>>The last one I saw was the post I made about the MGB in Grimm...

>>>But yes, traffic has been in decline for a while. I remember the times 
>>>when
a typical day was 20-30 emails on the list.

>>>> You are right !   It is quiet.

>>>>>Traffic seems less to me also.

>>>>>>Yes, gents.  VERY, VERY "slo" traffic !

From mgmagnette at aol.com  Sat Nov 26 22:00:29 2011
From: mgmagnette at aol.com (mgmagnette at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:00:29 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>

For giggles, I looked up when I first posted on mgs at autox.team.net :    It was
Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:28:47 EDT  My email address then was  WJAD81D at prodigy.com
Prodigy, lol.

I don't know how 1995 is possible, parents bought the MGB in 1992... and
surely it broke down before then!  When was team.net started?

Lets see so I was born May 12, 1978.  I was on this list Apr 1995, when I was
17.   Now I'm 33...   Oh geez, in one year I'll have been on this mailing list
1/2 my life!

There used to be so many messages I'd have to delete hundreds of them a day.

Anyway, I'm never giving up on Mgs at autox.team.net  even if everyone has moved
over to the MG Experience site.  Barney Gaylord is an MG-enius.

-John

From palte at gmx.net  Sat Nov 26 23:39:26 2011
From: palte at gmx.net (Bert Palte)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 07:39:26 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
	<8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>

Like John, I'm on the list since 1995 though I've owned my MGB much longer.
But then, 1995 was when I first heard about the existence of the net
(internet being at the time something limited to universities and not yet known to the general public. At the time I was one of the founders of the E.E. alumni association for my alma mater. That's how I came to know what Email was...).


Bert

> For giggles, I looked up when I first posted on mgs at autox.team.net :    It
> was
> Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:28:47 EDT 
-- 
Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir
belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Sun Nov 27 00:20:59 2011
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 01:20:59 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
	<8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
Message-ID: <201111270720.pAR7KrFf016956@nlpi157.prodigy.net>

Chuckle.  I distinctly remember my first post on this list, but I had 
to look up the date.  It was Sat, 20 Apr 1996, at a time when we were 
still paying AOL by the minute for connect time, and my email address 
was "BarneyMG at aol.com".  My first message was, "Anybody besides me 
still thrashing an MGA on a regular basis"?  The word "thrashing" 
immediately raised quite a ruckus, almost as bad as brake fluid or cats.

By that time I had already been autocrossing with SCCA nearly every 
weekend for five years, and had already broken the engine a few 
times.  1996 was also the year I put 21,000 miles on the MGA in one 
year putzing around on club activities.  Early that year the car had 
only 75,000 miles in nine years after the first restoration 
(following 150,000 miles before I bought the car with three layers of 
paint).  The car now has 391,000 miles (241,000 or it under my foot), 
and I continue to "thrash" it at every opportunuty.  Lots of good 
memories on this list.

Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
http://MGAguru.com



At 12:00 AM 11/27/2011 -0500, mgmagnette at aol.com wrote:
>For giggles, I looked up when I first posted on mgs at autox.team.net 
>:    It was Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:28:47 EDT  My email address then 
>was  WJAD81D at prodigy.com
>Prodigy, lol.
>
>I don't know how 1995 is possible, parents bought the MGB in 1992... 
>and surely it broke down before then!  When was team.net started?
>
>Lets see so I was born May 12, 1978.  I was on this list Apr 1995, 
>when I was 17.   Now I'm 33...   Oh geez, in one year I'll have been 
>on this mailing list 1/2 my life!
>
>There used to be so many messages I'd have to delete hundreds of them a day.
>
>Anyway, I'm never giving up on Mgs at autox.team.net  even if everyone 
>has moved over to the MG Experience site.  Barney Gaylord is an MG-enius.
>....

From h.duinhoven at planet.nl  Sun Nov 27 02:37:48 2011
From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 10:37:48 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
Message-ID: <C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>

Been on the list since 1995 as well.
Oldest entry in the archieves is from Nov 9th '95.
I assume my MG info lurking state with the list started earlier - I think 
1994, when I was cut off the MG VAXnotes list @ Digital Equipment.
Milestones were two visits to Boston area January 2000 and May 2006 and meet 
several listers over there and of course last summer holiday trip to the UK 
with the BGT last July, when I met Paul HUnt at the Heritage Museum and saw 
my GT's entry in the BMIHT archives.

Funny thin to see how my email antries were placed seeing Digital VAXmail 
style.

The list has brought info and fun to all.

Cheers,

Hans



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bert Palte" <palte at gmx.net>
To: <mgmagnette at aol.com>
Cc: <mgs at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Mgs] Traffic on the list


> Like John, I'm on the list since 1995 though I've owned my MGB much 
> longer.
> But then, 1995 was when I first heard about the existence of the net
> (internet being at the time something limited to universities and not yet 
> known to the general public. At the time I was one of the founders of the 
> E.E. alumni association for my alma mater. That's how I came to know what 
> Email was...).
>
>
> Bert
>
>> For giggles, I looked up when I first posted on mgs at autox.team.net : 
>> It
>> was
>> Sun, 23 Apr 1995 18:28:47 EDT
> -- 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Nov 27 09:59:43 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 09:59:43 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
	<C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>

The Team.Net domain was registered in April of 1991.  Pretty early in the
world of the internet, we used to have to tell people that the dot was
not silent.  Folks have figured that out by now.

But the lists were around in some form or other since about 1988, back
in the beginning it was just british-cars and autox.  Dale Cook was the
one who first hosted the lists, then Jim Muller, who still is on the Triumph
and Spitfire lists, took over, then I hosted it from work.  But 
eventually the
network traffic became noticeable and my superiors wondered about the
use of University facilities for personal use.

That was when we registered team.net and I set up shop in my home.
The first fund drive netted enough money to get a nice machine, an HP
with one of the first processors clocked over 100 Meg!  It cost nearly
$2,500.  The U of U was doing a lot of work with HP in those days, so
I had an in with them.  I think I still have that box somewhere in the
house.  Back in the late 80s the stack of HP stuff that made up my
system at work had a retail value of $125,000, roughly 4 times the
cost of the house my wife and I bought.

I keep thinking I should write up a history of Team.Net and try to
dig out some of the messages from the earlier days.  A lot of it is
stored on 1/4 tape cartridges which at the moment I can't read.
But I might have enough old hardware laying around to set up
a system to do that.  We shall see.

mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Nov 27 14:23:00 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 14:23:00 -0700
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
	<C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
	<4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <4ED2AA34.1080102@bradakis.com>

By the way the current archives have November of 1989 as the earliest
britsh-cars posts.

mjb.

From mvheim at sonic.net  Sun Nov 27 18:40:23 2011
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:40:23 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Typical repair session
Message-ID: <CAF82687.3626A%mvheim@sonic.net>

OK, here's some actual MG content.

I finally had a chance to install my rebuilt oil/temp combo gauge. I used
MoMa, BTW -- they weren't quick but it looks gorgeous -- I swear they
replated the housing. Actually too nice for my car, really.

In order to remove the broken-off sender from the head, I had to drain the
coolant. Of course, the spigot was stuck. I applied a little extra leverage
(not that much, really), and the whole thing plus the brazed-in threaded
insert just came right out of the bottom tank (fortunately my catch basin
was already in place). Much cursing ensued. In pulling the radiator, I
noticed that the top end of the bracket on one side had popped loose, as
well. It also seemed that some tubes in the rad must have been clogged,
since after attempting to drain it from every possible postion, it still
seemed to have something sloshing around in it.  So it's going to the
radiator shop for a complete refit.

I don't want to order a new one since my asumption is that anything new will
be crappier than what I have, which at least is all brass and reasonably
straight. And it would probably be very expensive, considering the price of
brass these days.

So, typical -- get around to fixing one thing and you wind up with a new and
unrelated problem. C'est la vie...

--

Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires


PS: I seem to have lost one of the knurled nuts that secure the gauge
bracket. Anyone have a spare, or know where to get one? Nothing in my nut
bin seemed to have the same thread...

From dave at ranteer.com  Sun Nov 27 19:23:43 2011
From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:23:43 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Typical repair session
In-Reply-To: <CAF82687.3626A%mvheim@sonic.net>
References: <CAF82687.3626A%mvheim@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <69E978D969B54339BCC7868DC3655171@ranteer.local>

ahh, but the good news is that you are fixing something now, in your garage, 
instead of in the dark, well located between exits

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Max Heim" <mvheim at sonic.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2011 7:40 PM
To: "MG List" <mgs at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mgs] Typical repair session

> OK, here's some actual MG content.
>
> I finally had a chance to install my rebuilt oil/temp combo gauge. I used
> MoMa, BTW -- they weren't quick but it looks gorgeous -- I swear they
> replated the housing. Actually too nice for my car, really.
>
> In order to remove the broken-off sender from the head, I had to drain the
> coolant. Of course, the spigot was stuck. I applied a little extra 
> leverage
> (not that much, really), and the whole thing plus the brazed-in threaded
> insert just came right out of the bottom tank (fortunately my catch basin
> was already in place). Much cursing ensued. In pulling the radiator, I
> noticed that the top end of the bracket on one side had popped loose, as
> well. It also seemed that some tubes in the rad must have been clogged,
> since after attempting to drain it from every possible postion, it still
> seemed to have something sloshing around in it.  So it's going to the
> radiator shop for a complete refit.
>
> I don't want to order a new one since my asumption is that anything new 
> will
> be crappier than what I have, which at least is all brass and reasonably
> straight. And it would probably be very expensive, considering the price 
> of
> brass these days.
>
> So, typical -- get around to fixing one thing and you wind up with a new 
> and
> unrelated problem. C'est la vie...
>
> --
>
> Max Heim
> '66 MGB GHN3L76149
> If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
> it's the primer red one with chrome wires
>
>
> PS: I seem to have lost one of the knurled nuts that secure the gauge
> bracket. Anyone have a spare, or know where to get one? Nothing in my nut
> bin seemed to have the same thread...

From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com  Sun Nov 27 19:25:03 2011
From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 18:25:03 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
	<8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
	<C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
Message-ID: <CAEUYfyO691fS_XQFwtL3K8nKpG1XidfKJLObSZXmw8DApyEQ-g@mail.gmail.com>

The oldest posting that I can find that I made comes from May 1994. I
thought that I was on the list some time around 1992/1993, but if I was,
there is no evidence of it. Actually, that first post came from the
"british-cars" list, which I was on before the MGs list existed.

Simon

From mgmagnette at aol.com  Sun Nov 27 19:34:33 2011
From: mgmagnette at aol.com (John Elwood)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:34:33 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <CAEUYfyO691fS_XQFwtL3K8nKpG1XidfKJLObSZXmw8DApyEQ-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
	<8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
	<C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
	<CAEUYfyO691fS_XQFwtL3K8nKpG1XidfKJLObSZXmw8DApyEQ-g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <668F4281-4E83-4450-81D3-AB3062DFC994@aol.com>


From g.schnittke at comcast.net  Sun Nov 27 21:20:53 2011
From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 22:20:53 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list. Let's go ahead and change that to
 'History'
Message-ID: <4ED30C25.50902@comcast.net>

> Re: [Mgs] Traffic on the list

My first thought when the subject of a lack of traffic came up was to 
offer up 'cats' and 'dremels' and 'box beams' as subjects that would 
start flame wars.

I decided not to and was rewarded with an invitation to look up my own 
first post. To wit:

>   #: 13171 S0/CompuServe Mail  [MAIL]
>       20-Dec-94 00:09 EST
>   Sb: Happy you're here.
>   Fm: Glenn Schnittke [72147,3635]
>
>
> Am I glad you guys have discovered the world of digital communication.
>
> All I really want to know right now is; can I assume it's okay to advertise
> this address in the Automobile Forum? There are any number of people there with
> car problems and questions that you guys could help with and your presence
> would be appreciated. If e-mail is your preferred method, fine, I would be glad
> to refer people to you. I tend to hang out there a lot as I am working on
> putting my B back together and it is a fine source. In fact that's how I found
> you folks.
>
> Happy Holidays and New Year.
>
> GS

Notice the arrogance of a Compuserve user. Little did I know at the time 
how great a resource this was.

I still refer to Roger Garnett's take on tuning SU's. I still want to 
shoot the cat, though it's not the same one. I don't need to install a 
box beam in the garage as I now have two hoist points, one indoors and 
one out. And I own and use two Dremel's.

The one author, I will call him that - he deserves it, that I remember 
and miss the most from my early years on the list hasn't been heard from 
in a long time (at least by me - I disengaged from britcars to go to the 
mgs list a long time ago) was Scott Fisher.  I miss his writing style 
and varied input as well as his interest in food. His treatises on his 
own history with British cars were very well written and evocative of my 
own history with said cars.

Thank you Mark for all your years of service.

Glenn

From mvheim at sonic.net  Sun Nov 27 21:47:51 2011
From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:47:51 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list. Let's go ahead and change that to
 'History'
In-Reply-To: <4ED30C25.50902@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <CAF85277.36275%mvheim@sonic.net>

I wonder if that is the same Scott Fisher who is occasionally heard from on
the California Melee list. I am thinking it's pretty likely.

--

Max Heim
'66 MGB GHN3L76149
If you're near Menlo Park, CA,
it's the primer red one with chrome wires


on 11/27/11 8:20 PM, Glenn Schnittke at g.schnittke at comcast.net wrote:

>> Re: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
> 
> My first thought when the subject of a lack of traffic came up was to
> offer up 'cats' and 'dremels' and 'box beams' as subjects that would
> start flame wars.
> 
> I decided not to and was rewarded with an invitation to look up my own
> first post. To wit:
> 
>>   #: 13171 S0/CompuServe Mail  [MAIL]
>>       20-Dec-94 00:09 EST
>>   Sb: Happy you're here.
>>   Fm: Glenn Schnittke [72147,3635]
>> 
>> 
>> Am I glad you guys have discovered the world of digital communication.
>> 
>> All I really want to know right now is; can I assume it's okay to advertise
>> this address in the Automobile Forum? There are any number of people there
>> with
>> car problems and questions that you guys could help with and your presence
>> would be appreciated. If e-mail is your preferred method, fine, I would be
>> glad
>> to refer people to you. I tend to hang out there a lot as I am working on
>> putting my B back together and it is a fine source. In fact that's how I
>> found
>> you folks.
>> 
>> Happy Holidays and New Year.
>> 
>> GS
> 
> Notice the arrogance of a Compuserve user. Little did I know at the time
> how great a resource this was.
> 
> I still refer to Roger Garnett's take on tuning SU's. I still want to
> shoot the cat, though it's not the same one. I don't need to install a
> box beam in the garage as I now have two hoist points, one indoors and
> one out. And I own and use two Dremel's.
> 
> The one author, I will call him that - he deserves it, that I remember
> and miss the most from my early years on the list hasn't been heard from
> in a long time (at least by me - I disengaged from britcars to go to the
> mgs list a long time ago) was Scott Fisher.  I miss his writing style
> and varied input as well as his interest in food. His treatises on his
> own history with British cars were very well written and evocative of my
> own history with said cars.
> 
> Thank you Mark for all your years of service.
> 
> Glenn

From don at napanet.net  Sun Nov 27 22:47:09 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 21:47:09 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] '67 B parts wanted
In-Reply-To: <CAF85277.36275%mvheim@sonic.net>
References: <4ED30C25.50902@comcast.net>
  <CAF85277.36275%mvheim@sonic.net>
Message-ID: <20111128054724.0AFD4AE6F5@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

>So the list is needing traffic.  I will step to the plate and add 
>some traffic!

I bought a '67 MGB roadster a few months back.  I had looked for one 
for a long time, and this car though not quite what I wanted, was an 
unrusted, unwrecked, reasonably priced car and not that far from home.

https://picasaweb.google.com/104973305347633073496/1967MGB?authkey=Gv1sRgCOHL48rHlMOJcA#

I have so far bought a new rear bumper, and two new Moss seats for 
it.  I would like to put original type rubber mats on the floors and 
sills.  I bought the sill mats that Moss sells, and they are about 3x 
as thick as the original ones, so I am not sure how well they will 
fit.  Floor mats for Mk 1 Bs are not easy to come by with the only 
new source in Australia and they are quite costly.

So, the things I am needing for my car at the moment are:

Rubber mats
Right door panel
Packaway convertible top



Don Scott
Calistoga CA USA
1955 MGTF
1962 MGA Mk 2
1973 MGB GT (selling)
1967 MGB
Misc. Japanese cars  

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon Nov 28 01:57:15 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:15 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list. Let's go ahead and change that to
 'History'
References: <4ED30C25.50902@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <7A7FE427F249478582B1BD592278C486@paul>

Or carburettor oil ...

----- Original Message ----- 
> My first thought when the subject of a lack of traffic came up was to 
> offer up 'cats' and 'dremels' and 'box beams' as subjects that would 
> start flame wars.

From palte at gmx.net  Mon Nov 28 02:58:29 2011
From: palte at gmx.net (Bert Palte)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:58:29 +0100
Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: Re: Traffic on the list. Let's go ahead and change that
 to 'History'
Message-ID: <20111128095829.89810@gmx.net>

And then, it's a long time since we heard of Slick 50...

(sorry, I couldn't resist...)

Bert 

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
> Datum: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 08:57:15 -0000
> Von: "Paul Hunt" <paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk>
> An: "Glenn Schnittke" <g.schnittke at comcast.net>, mgs at autox.team.net
> Betreff: Re: [Mgs] Traffic on the list. Let\'s go ahead and change that to \'History\'

> Or carburettor oil ...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> > My first thought when the subject of a lack of traffic came up was to 
> > offer up 'cats' and 'dremels' and 'box beams' as subjects that would 
> > start flame wars.

-- 
Empfehlen Sie GMX DSL Ihren Freunden und Bekannten und wir
belohnen Sie mit bis zu 50,- Euro! https://freundschaftswerbung.gmx.de

From barrie at look.ca  Mon Nov 28 09:23:22 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:23:22 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>
	<4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com>
	<8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com>
	<20111127063926.162900@gmx.net>
	<C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c>
	<4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <E1RV44u-00059x-Qu@eta.look.ca>

Mark,

Your mention of the cost of equipment years back reminded me of the 
time I was VP Marketing (Canada) for Peripheral General (now merged 
in with some other company).   In the 1970's I sold Queens's 
University in Kingston, a string of 8 disc drives, each 29Mbytes, 
with controller that needed an air conditioned room - the contract 
was for 4 years at somewhere around $2,500 per month.   Now I can get 
that total storage for less than $10 cash outright 
!!!........................and then there is my laptop !!!!!



At 11:59 AM 11/27/2011, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
>The Team.Net domain was registered in April of 1991.  Pretty early in the
>world of the internet, we used to have to tell people that the dot was
>not silent.  Folks have figured that out by now.
>
>But the lists were around in some form or other since about 1988, back
>in the beginning it was just british-cars and autox.  Dale Cook was the
>one who first hosted the lists, then Jim Muller, who still is on the Triumph
>and Spitfire lists, took over, then I hosted it from work.  But eventually the
>network traffic became noticeable and my superiors wondered about the
>use of University facilities for personal use.
>
>That was when we registered team.net and I set up shop in my home.
>The first fund drive netted enough money to get a nice machine, an HP
>with one of the first processors clocked over 100 Meg!  It cost nearly
>$2,500.  The U of U was doing a lot of work with HP in those days, so
>I had an in with them.  I think I still have that box somewhere in the
>house.  Back in the late 80s the stack of HP stuff that made up my
>system at work had a retail value of $125,000, roughly 4 times the
>cost of the house my wife and I bought.
>
>I keep thinking I should write up a history of Team.Net and try to
>dig out some of the messages from the earlier days.  A lot of it is
>stored on 1/4 tape cartridges which at the moment I can't read.
>But I might have enough old hardware laying around to set up
>a system to do that.  We shall see.
>
>mjb.
>_______________________________________________
>
>Mgs at autox.team.net
>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>Suggested annual donation  $12.75
>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums
>Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie at look.ca

Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
(705) 721-9060 

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon Nov 28 09:38:14 2011
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:38:14 -0000
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com><20111127063926.162900@gmx.net><C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c><4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com>
	<E1RV44u-00059x-Qu@eta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <E8B6219A4F2744CDBE381F35386FE7D4@paul>

Not much MG traffic on this list ...

----- Original Message ----- 
> ...   In the 1970's I sold Queens's 
> University in Kingston, a string of 8 disc drives, each 29Mbytes, 
> with controller that needed an air conditioned room - the contract 
> was for 4 years at somewhere around $2,500 per month.

From mgmagnette at aol.com  Mon Nov 28 15:08:05 2011
From: mgmagnette at aol.com (mgmagnette at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 17:08:05 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
In-Reply-To: <E8B6219A4F2744CDBE381F35386FE7D4@paul>
References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com><20111127063926.162900@gmx.net><C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c><4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com><E1RV44u-00059x-Qu@eta.look.ca>
	<E8B6219A4F2744CDBE381F35386FE7D4@paul>
Message-ID: <8CE7C3156C450AC-185C-D3C3A@webmail-d130.sysops.aol.com>

Just recently learned if you post to this list from an ipad, your email will
have no contents...  Here is what I meant to say...

The reason there's no "MG" traffic is now apparent:  We've all been here so
long that we all now know what we're doing.  I was recently having a pipe
organ looked at by two "Skinner Organ" experts.  One picked up a pipe, held it
out, and the other went "ahhh!"    They'd been doing it so longer words were
no longer required...  (not being in on the game, I asked:   apparently the
mouths of the pipes were unusually wide open)

Anyway, I think we need to recruit some new members that have questions!  I
will be the first to submit a quick blurb about mgs at autox.team.net to my local
club.

-John

From mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com  Mon Nov 28 17:15:55 2011
From: mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com (W. David Houser)
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 19:15:55 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
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References: <20111125.123036.29146.2@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com><4ED01636.7060607@justbrits.com><8CE7AD89E641ECD-99C-93418@webmail-d135.sysops.aol.com><20111127063926.162900@gmx.net><C46CF0F9AAE34AFC86BA9C1B8BE055D4@uw471de61b465c><4ED26C7F.9030204@bradakis.com><E1RV44u-00059x-Qu@eta.look.ca>
	<E8B6219A4F2744CDBE381F35386FE7D4@paul>
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Message-ID: <8DA45DEE-F330-44EF-8D72-F30735674B16@tampabay.rr.com>

Good one, John.
Dave



On Nov 28, 2011, at 5:08 PM, mgmagnette at aol.com wrote:

> Just recently learned if you post to this list from an ipad, your  
> email will
> have no contents...  Here is what I meant to say...
>
> The reason there's no "MG" traffic is now apparent:  We've all been  
> here so
> long that we all now know what we're doing.  I was recently having a  
> pipe
> organ looked at by two "Skinner Organ" experts.  One picked up a  
> pipe, held it
> out, and the other went "ahhh!"    They'd been doing it so longer  
> words were
> no longer required...  (not being in on the game, I asked:    
> apparently the
> mouths of the pipes were unusually wide open)
>
> Anyway, I think we need to recruit some new members that have  
> questions!  I
> will be the first to submit a quick blurb about mgs at autox.team.net  
> to my local
> club.
>
> -John
> _______________________________________________
>
> Mgs at autox.team.net
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From rolindsay at yahoo.com  Wed Nov 30 11:52:41 2011
From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick Lindsay)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:52:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread
Message-ID: <1322679161.58080.YahooMailClassic@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hey Gang,

Long time, no type!  Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' and digest mode, since I have little to contribute (as this post will easily confirm).  Still, I try to keep up with the List traffic as I still love these cars.

I thought you might get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a raging discussion over on the E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, 'originality', 'preservation', 'restoration', judging rules and what the word 'correct' actually means.  :-P  I immediately thought of this list (in the kindest and most entertaining ways).

As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if already 'tweaked', they should be restored.  There are others who loudly proclaim, "I don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem to believe that swapping out any parts imaginable is acceptable, if not preferred.  Some are championing the value of changing the lump to an American V8.  And while anyone can do anything they want to their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not relegating a classic to 'kit car' status.  But that's just my opinion, and worth only what anyone has paid for it. 

Despite having sold (traded really) my MGB, I still have three British cars - so I also still happily suffer failed fuel pumps, broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, just as the Almighty Maker intended.  Here's my present scuderia;

'09 Toyota Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler)

'08 Porsche Cayman - my daily driver (stunning performer)

'79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy (running perfectly)

'73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly)

'69 R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why)

'62 Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-)

Best of the season to you all, my similarly afflicted friends!

-rick

From Lister at Bonackers.com  Wed Nov 30 13:25:49 2011
From: Lister at Bonackers.com (Scott Bonacker)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 14:25:49 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Traffic on the list
Message-ID: <018a01ccaf9e$40784860$c168d920$@Bonackers.com>

Yes it is.

When we bought our '77 back in 2005 I started looking for information, and
this list was a huge part of what I found.

Now with some experience the questions are fewer, but just as importantly is
realization that for cars of this age many questions and been asked and
answered so a search of the archives can yield a great deal of knowledge.

Wisdom is another matter. That comes from actually doing something - not
just thinking about it.

That is part of the value that can be promoted to gain new members to the
study group.

IMHO

Cheers, and many thanks.

Scott Bonacker
Rogersville, MO

(Note to self - when replying make sure it goes to the list not to the
original sender. Sorry Dave.)

-----Original Message-----
From: W. David Houser
Sent: Monday, November 28, 2011 6:16 PM

Good one, John.

Dave



On Nov 28, 2011, at 5:08 PM, mgmagnette at aol.com wrote:

> Just recently learned if you post to this list from an ipad, your  
> email will
> have no contents...  Here is what I meant to say...
>
> The reason there's no "MG" traffic is now apparent:  We've all been  
> here so
> long that we all now know what we're doing.  I was recently having a  
> pipe
> organ looked at by two "Skinner Organ" experts.  One picked up a  
> pipe, held it
> out, and the other went "ahhh!"    They'd been doing it so longer  
> words were
> no longer required...  (not being in on the game, I asked:    
> apparently the
> mouths of the pipes were unusually wide open)
>
> Anyway, I think we need to recruit some new members that have  
> questions!  I
> will be the first to submit a quick blurb about mgs at autox.team.net  
> to my local
> club.
>
> -John

From barrie at look.ca  Wed Nov 30 15:53:38 2011
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:53:38 -0500
Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders
Message-ID: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>

Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling 
brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage

Regards

Barrie Robinson

705-721-9060 (Canada)
MGB GT V8
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration
www.AMFClub.com
www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm            TRY 
www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies

From barneymg at mgaguru.com  Wed Nov 30 16:50:43 2011
From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 17:50:43 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders
In-Reply-To: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>
References: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>
Message-ID: <201111302350.pAUNongB026561@nlpi129.prodigy.net>

Try here: http://www.brakecylinder.com


At 05:53 PM 11/30/2011 -0500, Barrie Robinson wrote:
>Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling 
>brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage

From don at napanet.net  Wed Nov 30 17:00:19 2011
From: don at napanet.net (Don)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 16:00:19 -0800
Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders
In-Reply-To: <201111302350.pAUNongB026561@nlpi129.prodigy.net>
References: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>
	<201111302350.pAUNongB026561@nlpi129.prodigy.net>
Message-ID: <20111201000027.7E43BAE6D4@mail.dsl.napanet.net>

That company sleeved a master cylinder in my '71 Chevrolet Monte 
Carlo, and the workmanship was excellent.  I would recommend them.



Don Scott
Calistoga CA USA
1955 MGTF
1962 MGA Mk 2
1973 MGB GT (selling)
1963-7 MGB (seeking)
Misc. Japanese cars





At 03:50 PM 11/30/2011, Barney Gaylord wrote:
>Try here: http://www.brakecylinder.com
>
>
>At 05:53 PM 11/30/2011 -0500, Barrie Robinson wrote:
>>Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling 
>>brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage
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From riverside at southslope.net  Wed Nov 30 22:58:38 2011
From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 23:58:38 -0600
Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders
In-Reply-To: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>
References: <E1RVt2Y-0007I1-79@epsilon.look.ca>
Message-ID: <803DC20BD754418CAD81021BCEE4CD9F@rileyPC>

www.applehydraulics.com
Ihave used them many times for British and American cylinder repairs.

Ron Sanborn
-----Original Message----- 
From: Barrie Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:53 PM
To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net ; mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders

Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling
brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage

Regards

Barrie Robinson

705-721-9060 (Canada)
MGB GT V8
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration
www.AMFClub.com
www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm            TRY
www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies
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