[Mgs] MGB was TD wheels, tires and things

[mgbob at juno.com]

Pete,
  Cherish your friendship with the guy who owns that balancer.  You might see
if he will put your name on it to sell it to you when he retires.  I have not
seen one in 25 years, and they are great tools.
Bob

---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Pete Chast" <pchast at francomm.com>
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mgs] MGB was TD wheels, tires and things
Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:03:51 -0400

I avoid all that by going to my local body shop and they balance the tires
on th ecar
by spinning the wheel as it is mounted.

Pete
Athens, NY
66 Midget


On Thu, 14 Jul 2011 03:57:26 -0400, Paul Hunt
<paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Can't speak for the TD but on the MGB the critical thing is how the
> wheel is mounted on the balancer shaft.  Normally they mount the back of
> the wheel against a flat surface and put a cone through the centre
> hole.  That's fine for modern wheels as the centre hole is designed for
> that purpose, whereas on MGB stud wheels it's just a hole that was
> punched through to make space for the hub nut without much consideration
> for concentricity or roundness. It's bad enough with those, but on wire
> wheels neither of the machined tapered mounting surfaces are being used,
> and I've had tyre places point out a massive wobble with the wheel on
> their machine that isn't there on the hub.  I've had a pair of cones
> machined (http://www.mgb-stuff.org.uk/MGBCones.exe) that support the
> wheel both sides - on the inside taper at the back of the wheel and the
> outside taper at the front which has solved the problem for the wire
> wheels, and I have a hub waiting to be machined so I can mount my V8
> wheel by the studs.  However it does need the agreement of the tyre
> place to use them.  I have done some tests at my tyre place and found
> that their standard cone when used on the back of the wheel gives the
> same balance results as the machined cone even though the standard cone
> has a different taper and so holds the wheel on the edge of its taper
> instead of its flat, so potentially you only need the outer cone.  YMMV.
>
> PaulH.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> You think that's frustrating, try wire wheels.
>>
>> Most shops can't balance them at all -- they would wind up putting 20
>> weights around the rim and they would still vibrate.
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