From barneymg at mgaguru.com Thu Dec 1 00:06:51 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 01:06:51 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders In-Reply-To: <803DC20BD754418CAD81021BCEE4CD9F@rileyPC> References: <803DC20BD754418CAD81021BCEE4CD9F@rileyPC> Message-ID: <201112010706.pB176pX3026212@nlpi129.prodigy.net> Avoid Apple Hydraulics like the plague. I went through nine Apple "rebuilt" shocks befroe their warranty ran out, and not a keeper in the bunch, all leaked within 1000 miles of installation, eventually had to buy elsewhere. A friend had a TD master cylinder sleeved by Apple, and it leaked around the sleeve. A replacement from them did the same, twice burned. Ask around, and you likely head more horrer stories the good. -- $.02 At 11:58 PM 11/30/2011 -0600, Ron Sanborn (riverside at southslope.net) wrote: >www.applehydraulics.com >Ihave used them many times for British and American cylinder repairs. >.... >From: Barrie Robinson >Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:53 PM >To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net ; mgs at autox.team.net >Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders > >Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling >brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage From barrie at look.ca Thu Dec 1 07:34:55 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:34:55 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread In-Reply-To: <1322679161.58080.YahooMailClassic@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo. com> References: <1322679161.58080.YahooMailClassic@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: As someone who has restored a few cars to original condition I will throw in my hat. Why would anyone take an original car and tart it up? Please leave them as historical pieces of art. If you want a big block MGB or similar, go buy a wreck and do that up. I bought an MGB shell with no engine, no interior, hardly anything left, and in need of metal work. I did it up and put in what I wanted, a 3.5L Rover engine etc, and now I have a splendid MGB GT V8. BUT I did not destroy a perfectly original MGB. With all the bits like chassis, bodies, engines around there is absolutely no excuse to butcher an original, albeit maybe unloved, car. It is easy to build what you want from bits here and there. People who adopt "I drive 'em, not polish them" attitudes are entitled to their opinion and I believe in using cars rather than making them chrome and polish idols............but destroying originals, when a myriad alternatives exist, is just not on At 01:52 PM 11/30/2011, Rick Lindsay wrote: >Hey Gang, > >Long time, no type! Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' >and digest mode, since I have little to contribute (as this post >will easily confirm). Still, I try to keep up with the List traffic >as I still love these cars. > >I thought you might get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a >raging discussion over on the E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, >'originality', 'preservation', 'restoration', judging rules and what >the word 'correct' actually means. :-P I immediately thought of >this list (in the kindest and most entertaining ways). > >As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of >these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if >already 'tweaked', they should be restored. There are others who >loudly proclaim, "I don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem >to believe that swapping out any parts imaginable is acceptable, if >not preferred. Some are championing the value of changing the lump >to an American V8. And while anyone can do anything they want to >their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not relegating a >classic to 'kit car' status. But that's just my opinion, and worth >only what anyone has paid for it. > >Despite having sold (traded really) my MGB, I still have three >British cars - so I also still happily suffer failed fuel pumps, >broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, just as the >Almighty Maker intended. Here's my present scuderia; > >'09 Toyota Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler) > >'08 Porsche Cayman - my daily driver (stunning performer) > >'79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy (running perfectly) > >'73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly) > >'69 R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why) > >'62 Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-) > >Best of the season to you all, my similarly afflicted friends! > >-rick >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From barrie at look.ca Thu Dec 1 07:39:41 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:39:41 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders In-Reply-To: <803DC20BD754418CAD81021BCEE4CD9F@rileyPC> References: <803DC20BD754418CAD81021BCEE4CD9F@rileyPC> Message-ID: Ron, I while back Apple had a bad reputation. I read quite a few bad reports while restoring my Austin Healey - but that was in the 80s and I believe they got new management since then. I had my front shocks done by them for my MGB GT V8 and all is well after several years so I assume they have their act together now Thanks for your response At 12:58 AM 12/1/2011, riverside at southslope.net wrote: >www.applehydraulics.com >Ihave used them many times for British and American cylinder repairs. > >Ron Sanborn >-----Original Message----- From: Barrie Robinson >Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 4:53 PM >To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net ; mgs at autox.team.net >Subject: [Mgs] Girling Brake cylinders > >Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling >brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage > >Regards > >Barrie Robinson > >705-721-9060 (Canada) >MGB GT V8 >Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration >www.AMFClub.com >www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm TRY >www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/riverside at southslope.net > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4649 - Release Date: 11/30/11 > > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1873 / Virus Database: 2102/4649 - Release Date: 11/30/11 Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Thu Dec 1 08:43:09 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 07:43:09 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread In-Reply-To: <1322679161.58080.YahooMailClassic@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1322679161.58080.YahooMailClassic@web82307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1322754189.34951.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Rick, good to hear from you.... I would expect a much more raging debate regarding a car such as an E-Type, which is worth much more than our humble B's. Although personally I am somewhat of a purist, I also believe 'it's your car'.... With something like the Jag, which certainly wasn't built in the numbers of our B's and is more of an icon, I would have a much harder time having that attitude. It's almost like you're a caretaker of an important (and beautiful) piece of automotive history. Dan D Couple o' B's Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: Rick Lindsay To: mgs at autox.team.net Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:52 PM Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread Hey Gang, Long time, no type! Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' and digest mode, since I have little to contribute (as this post will easily confirm). Still, I try to keep up with the List traffic as I still love these cars. I thought you might get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a raging discussion over on the E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, 'originality', 'preservation', 'restoration', judging rules and what the word 'correct' actually means. :-P I immediately thought of this list (in the kindest and most entertaining ways). As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if already 'tweaked', they should be restored. There are others who loudly proclaim, "I don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem to believe that swapping out any parts imaginable is acceptable, if not preferred. Some are championing the value of changing the lump to an American V8. And while anyone can do anything they want to their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not relegating a classic to 'kit car' status. But that's just my opinion, and worth only what anyone has paid for it. Despite having sold (traded really) my MGB, I still have three British cars - so I also still happily suffer failed fuel pumps, broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, just as the Almighty Maker intended. Here's my present scuderia; '09 Toyota Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler) '08 Porsche Cayman - my daily driver (stunning performer) '79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy (running perfectly) '73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly) '69 R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why) '62 Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-) Best of the season to you all, my similarly afflicted friends! -rick _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Dec 1 09:04:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:04:46 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] "Interesting read"` ! Message-ID: <4ED7A59E.8020502@justbrits.com> Sealy, Texas-based Hennessey Performance has introduced an open-top version of its 1200 hp Venom GT for the low, low price of just $1.1 million. Yes, $1.1 million. And yes, 1200 hp. Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/11/30/275-mph-convertible-from-texas/?google_editors_picks=true#ixzz1fIYGCIAA or: *http://tinyurl.com/7zgtdq3* From barrie at look.ca Thu Dec 1 09:03:51 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:03:51 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] [Mgb-v8] Girling Brake cylinders In-Reply-To: <491A89B2-29E4-4117-872D-48E2FE88D8EB@golden.net> References: <491A89B2-29E4-4117-872D-48E2FE88D8EB@golden.net> Message-ID: Don, I found them in my data base - entered them in 2000 !! Spoke to Brent and they are very much still in business. John Stuart Power Brake Co 349 Milleen Rd N. Stoney Creek On L8E 2H3 800-309-1995 www.johnstuartpowerbrake.com At 10:19 PM 11/30/2011, Don Mcleod wrote: >Barrie, >I used to use a business called Steward on Arvin Ave? Stoney Creek >I can't seem to locate their info in my notes, however, if you >contact Head and Block Specialty >, a machine shop re-building service on Arvin in Stoneycreek, I'm >sure they would know their address/contact info. >Brake master. wheel re-sleaving etc. was their specialty... >Good luck >Don......in Kitchener >On 2011-11-30, at 5:53 PM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > > Can anyone recommend an outfit that could recondition my Girling > brake cylinders and master cylinder - 1955 vintage > > > > Regards > > > > Barrie Robinson > > > > 705-721-9060 (Canada) > > MGB GT V8 > > Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII under restoration > > www.AMFClub.com > > www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm TRY > www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgb-v8/mcleod at golden.net > > Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 From mvheim at sonic.net Thu Dec 1 17:09:39 2011 From: mvheim at sonic.net (Max Heim) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 16:09:39 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread In-Reply-To: <1322754189.34951.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The thing about Jaguars is that the DOHC 6 engine is one of the truly significant motors of the 20th century, with multiple Le Mans wins. Even its appearance is uniquely sculptural and iconic -- along with the always exquisite William Lyons body design, it defines the marque. That is why replacing it with a generic Chevy V8 is like a dagger to the heart of any true aficionado. It just demonstrates a complete lack of appreciation for what makes the marque special. Might as well put a Chevy in your Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso. In the MG department, on the other hand, it is difficult to make an argument for "iconic" status for any postwar MG engine. They were basically corporate generic motors. So there is a difference, in degree; not to mention the relatively massive numbers of these cars produced (particularly Bs). One good thing is that the later, less beloved, rubber bumper models are much more amenable to engine swaps, a fact which tends to preserve the stock of original older models. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/1/11 7:43 AM, Dan DiBiase at d_dibiase at yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, Rick, good to hear from you.... > > I would expect a much more raging debate > regarding a car such as an E-Type, which is worth much more than our humble > B's. Although > personally I am somewhat of a purist, I also believe 'it's your > car'.... With something like the Jag, which certainly wasn't built in the > numbers > of our B's and is more of an icon, I would have a much harder time > having that attitude. It's almost like you're a caretaker of an important > (and > beautiful) piece of automotive history. > > Dan D > Couple o' B's > Central NJ USA > ________________________________ > From: Rick Lindsay > To: > mgs at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:52 PM > Subject: [Mgs] > Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread > > Hey Gang, > > Long time, no > type! Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' and digest mode, since I > have little to contribute (as this post will easily confirm). Still, I try to > keep up with the List traffic as I still love these cars. > > I thought you might > get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a raging discussion over on the > E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, 'originality', 'preservation', > 'restoration', judging rules and what the word 'correct' actually means. :-P > I immediately thought of this list (in the kindest and most entertaining > ways). > > As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of > these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if already > 'tweaked', they should be restored. There are others who loudly proclaim, "I > don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem to believe that swapping out > any parts imaginable is acceptable, if not preferred. Some are championing > the value of changing the lump to an American V8. And while anyone can do > anything they want to their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not > relegating a classic to 'kit car' status. But that's just my opinion, and > worth only what anyone has paid for it. > > Despite having sold (traded really) > my MGB, I still have three British cars - so I also still happily suffer > failed fuel pumps, broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, > just as the Almighty Maker intended. Here's my present scuderia; > > '09 Toyota > Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler) > > '08 Porsche Cayman - > my daily driver (stunning performer) > > '79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy > (running perfectly) > > '73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly) > > '69 > R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why) > > '62 > Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-) > > Best of the season > to you all, my similarly afflicted friends! > > -rick From mvheim at SONIC.NET Thu Dec 1 11:11:26 2011 From: mvheim at SONIC.NET (Max Heim) Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2011 10:11:26 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread In-Reply-To: <1322754189.34951.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: The thing about Jaguars is that the DOHC 6 engine is one of the truly significant motors of the 20th century, with multiple Le Mans wins. Even its appearance is uniquely sculptural and iconic -- along with the always exquisite William Lyons body design, it defines the marque. That is why replacing it with a generic Chevy V8 is like a dagger to the heart of any true aficionado. It just demonstrates a complete lack of appreciation for what makes the marque special. Might as well put a Chevy in your Ferrari Berlinetta Lusso. In the MG department, on the other hand, it is difficult to make an argument for "iconic" status for any postwar MG engine. They were basically corporate generic motors. So there is a difference, in degree; not to mention the relatively massive numbers of these cars produced (particularly Bs). One good thing is that the later, less beloved, rubber bumper models are much more amenable to engine swaps, a fact which tends to preserve the stock of original older models. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Menlo Park, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires on 12/1/11 7:43 AM, Dan DiBiase at d_dibiase at yahoo.com wrote: > Hi, Rick, good to hear from you.... > > I would expect a much more raging debate > regarding a car such as an E-Type, which is worth much more than our humble > B's. Although > personally I am somewhat of a purist, I also believe 'it's your > car'.... With something like the Jag, which certainly wasn't built in the > numbers > of our B's and is more of an icon, I would have a much harder time > having that attitude. It's almost like you're a caretaker of an important > (and > beautiful) piece of automotive history. > > Dan D > Couple o' B's > Central NJ USA > ________________________________ > From: Rick Lindsay > To: > mgs at autox.team.net > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:52 PM > Subject: [Mgs] > Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread > > Hey Gang, > > Long time, no > type! Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' and digest mode, since I > have little to contribute (as this post will easily confirm). Still, I try to > keep up with the List traffic as I still love these cars. > > I thought you might > get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a raging discussion over on the > E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, 'originality', 'preservation', > 'restoration', judging rules and what the word 'correct' actually means. :-P > I immediately thought of this list (in the kindest and most entertaining > ways). > > As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of > these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if already > 'tweaked', they should be restored. There are others who loudly proclaim, "I > don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem to believe that swapping out > any parts imaginable is acceptable, if not preferred. Some are championing > the value of changing the lump to an American V8. And while anyone can do > anything they want to their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not > relegating a classic to 'kit car' status. But that's just my opinion, and > worth only what anyone has paid for it. > > Despite having sold (traded really) > my MGB, I still have three British cars - so I also still happily suffer > failed fuel pumps, broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, > just as the Almighty Maker intended. Here's my present scuderia; > > '09 Toyota > Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler) > > '08 Porsche Cayman - > my daily driver (stunning performer) > > '79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy > (running perfectly) > > '73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly) > > '69 > R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why) > > '62 > Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-) > > Best of the season > to you all, my similarly afflicted friends! > > -rick From redscirocco at hotmail.com Thu Dec 1 21:18:06 2011 From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred) Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 23:18:06 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread In-Reply-To: References: <1322754189.34951.YahooMailNeo@web39410.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, Message-ID: Well put! I've never understood the desire to stick an American V8 into anything and everything on four wheels. > Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2011 16:09:39 -0800 > From: mvheim at sonic.net > To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread > > The thing about Jaguars is that the DOHC 6 engine is one of the truly > significant motors of the 20th century, with multiple Le Mans wins. Even its > appearance is uniquely sculptural and iconic -- along with the always > exquisite William Lyons body design, it defines the marque. That is why > replacing it with a generic Chevy V8 is like a dagger to the heart of any > true aficionado. It just demonstrates a complete lack of appreciation for > what makes the marque special. Might as well put a Chevy in your Ferrari > Berlinetta Lusso. > > In the MG department, on the other hand, it is difficult to make an argument > for "iconic" status for any postwar MG engine. They were basically corporate > generic motors. So there is a difference, in degree; not to mention the > relatively massive numbers of these cars produced (particularly Bs). One > good thing is that the later, less beloved, rubber bumper models are much > more amenable to engine swaps, a fact which tends to preserve the stock of > original older models. > > -- > > Max Heim > '66 MGB GHN3L76149 > If you're near Menlo Park, CA, > it's the primer red one with chrome wires > > > > on 12/1/11 7:43 AM, Dan DiBiase at d_dibiase at yahoo.com wrote: > > > Hi, Rick, good to hear from you.... > > > > I would expect a much more raging debate > > regarding a car such as an E-Type, which is worth much more than our humble > > B's. Although > > personally I am somewhat of a purist, I also believe 'it's your > > car'.... With something like the Jag, which certainly wasn't built in the > > numbers > > of our B's and is more of an icon, I would have a much harder time > > having that attitude. It's almost like you're a caretaker of an important > > (and > > beautiful) piece of automotive history. > > > > Dan D > > Couple o' B's > > Central NJ USA > > ________________________________ > > From: Rick Lindsay > > To: > > mgs at autox.team.net > > Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2011 1:52 PM > > Subject: [Mgs] > > Thought you might enjoy this cross-posted thread > > > > Hey Gang, > > > > Long time, no > > type! Since I sold my MGB I have gone into 'lurker' and digest mode, since I > > have little to contribute (as this post will easily confirm). Still, I try to > > keep up with the List traffic as I still love these cars. > > > > I thought you might > > get a chuckle from the knowledge that there is a raging discussion over on the > > E-Type List, concerning engine swaps, 'originality', 'preservation', > > 'restoration', judging rules and what the word 'correct' actually means. :-P > > I immediately thought of this list (in the kindest and most entertaining > > ways). > > > > As you might imagine, there are purists (like me) who think all of > > these cars are a part of history and should be preserved, or if already > > 'tweaked', they should be restored. There are others who loudly proclaim, "I > > don't polish 'em, I drive 'em!", and they seem to believe that swapping out > > any parts imaginable is acceptable, if not preferred. Some are championing > > the value of changing the lump to an American V8. And while anyone can do > > anything they want to their own car, I do find the act distasteful, if not > > relegating a classic to 'kit car' status. But that's just my opinion, and > > worth only what anyone has paid for it. > > > > Despite having sold (traded really) > > my MGB, I still have three British cars - so I also still happily suffer > > failed fuel pumps, broken electrical grounds (earths) and leaking SU carbs, > > just as the Almighty Maker intended. Here's my present scuderia; > > > > '09 Toyota > > Highlander - wife's daily driver (boring parts hauler) > > > > '08 Porsche Cayman - > > my daily driver (stunning performer) > > > > '79 Ferrari 308GTB - my quick toy > > (running perfectly) > > > > '73 Jaguar E-Type - wife's toy (running perfectly) > > > > '69 > > R-R Silver Shadow - my big, long, heavy toy (hell, I don't know why) > > > > '62 > > Triumph TR3b - my little toy (with a broken fuel pump :-) > > > > Best of the season > > to you all, my similarly afflicted friends! > > > > -rick > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/redscirocco at hotmail.com From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 3 09:07:06 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 08:07:06 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mgs] Test Message-ID: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Can't get through to list From mg_garage at comcast.net Sat Dec 3 10:35:46 2011 From: mg_garage at comcast.net (gordies garage) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 12:35:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Test In-Reply-To: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <248046CD151C417BB4ACD65E049C6481@stargate> sure ya can -------------------------------------------------- From: "mark lapierre" Sent: Saturday, December 03, 2011 11:07 AM To: Subject: [Mgs] Test > Can't get through to list > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg_garage at comcast.net From barneymg at mgaguru.com Sat Dec 3 11:11:50 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 12:11:50 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Test In-Reply-To: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo .com> References: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <201112031812.pB3IC3um006254@nlpi157.prodigy.net> Apparently you did. At 08:07 AM 12/3/2011 -0800, mark lapierre wrote: >Can't get through to list From mark at bradakis.com Sat Dec 3 11:18:57 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:18:57 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Test In-Reply-To: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EDA6811.3040909@bradakis.com> mark lapierre wrote: > Can't get through to list > Obviously this one made it. I need to rewrite the blurb I did about posting. One of the most common is that people can't figure out that to send mail to healeys at autox.team.net you send to healeys at autox.team.net. Keep an eye on where your replies, as well as new messages are going. Another problem is not editing your replies. Many mailers include the original message in the reply and that can put the message over the list's size limit. It really isn't that difficult to highlight and delete the parts that don't need to be seen again. Keep in mind that *you* are not a member of the list, but your *email address* is. If you subscribed as workerbot at heartless.com but you send mail from another account like kloolys at random.net your mail will be held as a non-member submission. What I really ought to do is come up with a nice FAQ page to add to the links below so that folks can easily get some details on how this all works. Yep, RealSoonNow. mjb From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Sat Dec 3 11:32:23 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:32:23 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGA Fenders Message-ID: <000e01ccb1e9$e777b4a0$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> If this is a repeat , sorry. Email didn't seem to be going through. I have a set of MGA fenders for sale. Metal is solid, surface rust needs to be media blasted, smoothed out then painted. Some body filler on one that needs removing. Pickup would be preferred cause shipping would be high. I can help out with transportation in IN, MI, OHio, and Illinois within reason I have reduced the price to $350 each to help with sale. Marl From mark at bradakis.com Sat Dec 3 11:31:27 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Sat, 03 Dec 2011 11:31:27 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Test In-Reply-To: <4EDA6811.3040909@bradakis.com> References: <1322928426.20031.YahooMailClassic@web180103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4EDA6811.3040909@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4EDA6AFF.3010205@bradakis.com> Oops. I should have changed the 'healeys' reference to 'mgs' - now I'll folks sending mail to the healeys list wondering why it doesn't show up in mgs! mjb. From guinness at stclegal.com Sun Dec 4 08:52:23 2011 From: guinness at stclegal.com (Robert J. Guinness) Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2011 09:52:23 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis Message-ID: <4EDB9737.8090309@stclegal.com> As I am unpacking Christmas lights, I found a gift from last year that fixes broken miniature lights. It has an audible continuity tester that works by passing the point @1/2 inch from the bulb or wire. Could this be used to troubleshoot wiring on our cars? See http://www.lightkeeperpro.com/support/how-to-use/audible-voltage-detector Would it work on positive ground cars? I am an electrical Luddite -- so please do not laugh too hard. -- Robert Guinness From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Dec 5 05:34:48 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:34:48 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis References: <4EDB9737.8090309@stclegal.com> Message-ID: I get an SQL error for that link, probably means it is not suitable for classic cars ... There are a number of non-contact voltage detectors around, but they seem to need a minimum of 50v, and AC. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > As I am unpacking Christmas lights, I found a gift from last year that > fixes broken miniature lights. It has an audible continuity tester that > works by passing the point @1/2 inch from the bulb or wire. Could this > be used to troubleshoot wiring on our cars? See > http://www.lightkeeperpro.com/support/how-to-use/audible-voltage-detector From Lister at Bonackers.com Mon Dec 5 08:39:45 2011 From: Lister at Bonackers.com (Scott Bonacker) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - Message-ID: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million dollars' worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia-pacific/8-ferraris-lamborghini-smas hed-in-pricey-japan-freeway-pileup/2011/12/05/gIQAhNQ1UO_story.html?tid=pm_p op (or http://goo.gl/FycU9 ) Truthfully though, this was one reason I quit the HD riders club. Too easy to crash and burn on the group rides. Sold my bike later because it was just too easy even alone. Scott Bonacker Rogersville, MO From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Mon Dec 5 09:49:52 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:49:52 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis In-Reply-To: References: <4EDB9737.8090309@stclegal.com> Message-ID: The link worked for me and I agree with Paul - this looks like it is designed for AC. You may be able to find a continuity tester for DC systems, designed for static timing as well as other purposes for a few dollars (or euros). I used to use one to time my MGs during my poor college days. But anymore, with cheap Chinese tools and vendors like Harbor Freight, you can get a decent digital volt meter that tells you resistance, voltage, and maybe even amps for less than $20 USD that would be way more useful for those inevitable electrical problems. David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:35 AM To: Robert J. Guinness; MG List Subject: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis I get an SQL error for that link, probably means it is not suitable for classic cars ... There are a number of non-contact voltage detectors around, but they seem to need a minimum of 50v, and AC. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > As I am unpacking Christmas lights, I found a gift from last year that > fixes broken miniature lights. It has an audible continuity tester > that works by passing the point @1/2 inch from the bulb or wire. > Could this be used to troubleshoot wiring on our cars? See > http://www.lightkeeperpro.com/support/how-to-use/audible-voltage-detec > tor From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Dec 5 09:59:55 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 16:59:55 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis References: <4EDB9737.8090309@stclegal.com> Message-ID: <17E4F081BDAE40519BC173A37BBD52B1@paul> Working for me now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Councill, David" To: "MG List" Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 4:49 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis > The link worked for me and I agree with Paul - this looks like it is > designed > for AC. You may be able to find a continuity tester for DC systems, > designed > for static timing as well as other purposes for a few dollars (or euros). > I > used to use one to time my MGs during my poor college days. But anymore, > with > cheap Chinese tools and vendors like Harbor Freight, you can get a decent > digital volt meter that tells you resistance, voltage, and maybe even amps > for > less than $20 USD that would be way more useful for those inevitable > electrical problems. > > David Councill > 64 B > 67 BGT > 72 B > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On > Behalf > Of Paul Hunt > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 5:35 AM > To: Robert J. Guinness; MG List > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Electrical Problem diagnosis > > I get an SQL error for that link, probably means it is not suitable for > classic cars ... > > There are a number of non-contact voltage detectors around, but they seem > to > need a minimum of 50v, and AC. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> As I am unpacking Christmas lights, I found a gift from last year that >> fixes broken miniature lights. It has an audible continuity tester >> that works by passing the point @1/2 inch from the bulb or wire. >> Could this be used to troubleshoot wiring on our cars? See >> http://www.lightkeeperpro.com/support/how-to-use/audible-voltage-detec >> tor > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk From palte at gmx.net Mon Dec 5 12:01:41 2011 From: palte at gmx.net (Bert Palte) Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2011 20:01:41 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - In-Reply-To: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> Message-ID: <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> Interesting to see that these Ferraris were all LHD cars, in a habitat where RHD is standard. How come? -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 > Von: "Scott Bonacker" > An: mgs at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million > dollars' > worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. > > -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> Message-ID: I wonder if it could be related to the scarcity of Ferrari's in general. I wonder what the percentage of RHD Ferrari's is? I know at times it was faster to buy a "used" Ferrari than wait for the long waiting list. Perhaps these Ferrari's are being bought in the US or Europe and imported? Just speculation On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Bert Palte wrote: > Interesting to see that these Ferraris were all LHD cars, in a habitat where RHD is standard. > How come? > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 >> Von: "Scott Bonacker" >> An: mgs at autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > >> Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million >> dollars' >> worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. >> >> > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/geoff at 1956mga.com From dave at ranteer.com Mon Dec 5 12:43:01 2011 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 13:43:01 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - In-Reply-To: References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com><20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> Message-ID: <8AF0AD78EB5445128A3462EA2911E784@ranteer.local> or maybe like corvettes - you can't get a right hand drive one from the factory -------------------------------------------------- From: "Geoff" Sent: Monday, December 05, 2011 1:11 PM To: "Bert Palte" Cc: Subject: Re: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > I wonder if it could be related to the scarcity of Ferrari's in > general. I wonder what the percentage of RHD Ferrari's is? I know at > times it was faster to buy a "used" Ferrari than wait for the long > waiting list. Perhaps these Ferrari's are being bought in the US or > Europe and imported? > > Just speculation From arundell at ghs.com.au Mon Dec 5 13:17:22 2011 From: arundell at ghs.com.au (Murray Arundell) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:17:22 +1000 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - In-Reply-To: <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> Message-ID: <11233631-9E9F-4D03-9F95-470F2AAE93B9@ghs.com.au> In Japan its considered Cool to have a LHD car. Most of the Euro Car Dealers will have both LHD & RHD models on the showroom floor. Why? A complete mystery to me, but as I said its considered my many to be cool...... go figure. Murray Arundell Australia On 06/12/2011, at 5:01 AM, Bert Palte wrote: > Interesting to see that these Ferraris were all LHD cars, in a habitat where RHD is standard. > How come? > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- >> Datum: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 >> Von: "Scott Bonacker" >> An: mgs at autox.team.net >> Betreff: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > >> Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million >> dollars' >> worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. >> >> > -- > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell at ghs.com.au > Murray G. Arundell Managing Director GHS Pty Ltd Glaziers Hardware Supplies Brisbane, Australia Phone: +617 3277 1255 Fax: +617 3875 1256 Email: arundell at ghs.com.au From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Mon Dec 5 13:21:30 2011 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 21:21:30 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home Message-ID: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15994147 Cheers, Hans From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Mon Dec 5 13:39:52 2011 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 12:39:52 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - In-Reply-To: <11233631-9E9F-4D03-9F95-470F2AAE93B9@ghs.com.au> References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> <11233631-9E9F-4D03-9F95-470F2AAE93B9@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: I don't know about cool, but, if LHD, it is very obvious that the car was an import and hence more expensive. Simon On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Murray Arundell wrote: > In Japan its considered Cool to have a LHD car. Most of the Euro Car > Dealers > will have both LHD & RHD models on the showroom floor. Why? A complete > mystery to me, but as I said its considered my many to be cool...... go > figure. > > Murray Arundell > Australia > > On 06/12/2011, at 5:01 AM, Bert Palte wrote: > > > Interesting to see that these Ferraris were all LHD cars, in a habitat > where > RHD is standard. > > How come? > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >> Datum: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 > >> Von: "Scott Bonacker" > >> An: mgs at autox.team.net > >> Betreff: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > > > >> Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million > >> dollars' > >> worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. > >> > >> > > -- > > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell at ghs.com.au > > > > > > > > > > Murray G. Arundell > Managing Director > GHS Pty Ltd > Glaziers Hardware Supplies > Brisbane, Australia > Phone: +617 3277 1255 > Fax: +617 3875 1256 > Email: arundell at ghs.com.au > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com From arundell at ghs.com.au Mon Dec 5 13:47:28 2011 From: arundell at ghs.com.au (Murray Arundell) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 06:47:28 +1000 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - In-Reply-To: References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com> <20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> <11233631-9E9F-4D03-9F95-470F2AAE93B9@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: It was a Ferrari, and it was Japan...... of course it was an import :-) On 06/12/2011, at 6:39 AM, Simon Matthews wrote: > > I don't know about cool, but, if LHD, it is very obvious that the car was an import and hence more expensive. > > Simon > > On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 12:17 PM, Murray Arundell wrote: > In Japan its considered Cool to have a LHD car. Most of the Euro Car Dealers > will have both LHD & RHD models on the showroom floor. Why? A complete > mystery to me, but as I said its considered my many to be cool...... go > figure. > > Murray Arundell > Australia > > On 06/12/2011, at 5:01 AM, Bert Palte wrote: > > > Interesting to see that these Ferraris were all LHD cars, in a habitat where > RHD is standard. > > How come? > > > > > > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > >> Datum: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:39:45 -0600 > >> Von: "Scott Bonacker" > >> An: mgs at autox.team.net > >> Betreff: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - > > > >> Take extra caution during car club events - No one wants a million > >> dollars' > >> worth of LBC's smashed up on the highway [grin]. > >> > >> > > -- > > NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC > Jetzt informieren: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/freephone > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/arundell at ghs.com.au > > > > > > > > > > Murray G. Arundell > Managing Director > GHS Pty Ltd > Glaziers Hardware Supplies > Brisbane, Australia > Phone: +617 3277 1255 > Fax: +617 3875 1256 > Email: arundell at ghs.com.au > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/simon.d.matthews at gmail.com > Murray G. Arundell Managing Director GHS Pty Ltd Glaziers Hardware Supplies Brisbane, Australia Phone: +617 3277 1255 Fax: +617 3875 1256 Email: arundell at ghs.com.au From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Dec 6 03:31:47 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 10:31:47 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Be careful when driving in groups - References: <009d01ccb364$1de37850$59aa68f0$@Bonackers.com><20111205190141.325100@gmx.net> <11233631-9E9F-4D03-9F95-470F2AAE93B9@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: Late MGBs were available in Japan in LHD only, FWIW. ----- Original Message ----- > In Japan its considered Cool to have a LHD car. Most of the Euro Car > Dealers > will have both LHD & RHD models on the showroom floor. From mgrick at mgcars.org.uk Tue Dec 6 11:52:16 2011 From: mgrick at mgcars.org.uk (Rick Brown) Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2011 13:52:16 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Attn Hans Dunniven Message-ID: Hans Please send me your email address - thanks. Rick Webmaster for: http://www.mgcars.org.uk/namgbr - The North American MGB Register http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgcouncil - North American Council of MG Registers http://www.mgcars.org.uk/amgcr - American MGC Register http://www.flamemini.net - Florida mini Enthusiasts From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Wed Dec 7 03:55:12 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 05:55:12 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Slow Holiday Traffic Message-ID: <003601ccb4ce$b215af50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Not much coming through the list since the weekend. Is it me or the Holidays. The cars must be put away for a warm winters nap. Mark From mgbob at juno.com Wed Dec 7 08:52:46 2011 From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com) Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 15:52:46 GMT Subject: [Mgs] Slow Holiday Traffic Message-ID: <20111207.105246.23955.3@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> A few MGs appeared at our CT MG Club Xmas party last Sunday, but most came in their other cars. Too bad, as the night was clear and warm enough for MGB heaters to handle the chill. The roads were clear of snow and salt, the surprise snow of 30 October being all melted and its salt rinsed away by subsequent rains. Bob Guilford CT ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: Subject: [Mgs] Slow Holiday Traffic Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 05:55:12 -0500 Not much coming through the list since the weekend. Is it me or the Holidays. The cars must be put away for a warm winters nap. Mark _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob at juno.com From ejrussell at mebtel.net Thu Dec 8 17:43:28 2011 From: ejrussell at mebtel.net (Eric J Russell) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 19:43:28 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified Message-ID: As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 Item # 260907786273 Eric Russell Mebane, NC http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 18:23:42 2011 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 17:23:42 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Wow, it has received 6 bids so far, but not met the reserve. How much does the owner want for this abomination? Simon On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Eric J Russell wrote: > As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 > 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 > > Item # 260907786273 From dave at ranteer.com Thu Dec 8 20:10:26 2011 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 21:10:26 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: so sad. such a travesty. paint does not look good to me -------------------------------------------------- From: "Simon Matthews" Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:23 PM To: "Eric J Russell" Cc: Subject: Re: [Mgs] slightly modified > Wow, it has received 6 bids so far, but not met the reserve. How much does > the owner want for this abomination? > > Simon > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Eric J Russell > wrote: > >> As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 >> 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 >> >> Item # 260907786273 From tartanredmgb at gmail.com Thu Dec 8 21:08:41 2011 From: tartanredmgb at gmail.com (tartanredmgb at gmail.com) Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2011 20:08:41 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: "Abomination" is too kind a word for this thing. On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Dave wrote: > so sad. such a travesty. paint does not look good to me > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Simon Matthews" > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:23 PM > To: "Eric J Russell" > Cc: > Subject: Re: [Mgs] slightly modified > >> Wow, it has received 6 bids so far, but not met the reserve. How much does >> the owner want for this abomination? >> >> Simon >> >> On Thu, Dec 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Eric J Russell >> wrote: >> >>> As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: >>> >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 >>> 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 >>> >>> Item # 260907786273 > > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/tartanredmgb at gmail.com From barneymg at mgaguru.com Fri Dec 9 01:00:25 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 02:00:25 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <201112090800.pB980WDb004131@nlpi157.prodigy.net> All that money and effort to build a car to be worth half as much as original. At 07:43 PM 12/8/2011 -0500, Eric J Russell wrote: >As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 >86273?pt_Cars_Trucks&hashem3cbf50e021 > >Item # 260907786273 >.... From frankk12 at verizon.net Fri Dec 9 05:46:35 2011 From: frankk12 at verizon.net (frankk12 at verizon.net) Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2011 07:46:35 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified References: Message-ID: Went to check it out and it has been removed. Was it that offensive? Frank Krajewski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J Russell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified > As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 > 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 > > Item # 260907786273 > > Eric Russell > Mebane, NC > http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell > _______________________________________________ From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Fri Dec 9 09:12:35 2011 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 08:12:35 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It's still there. Simon On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 4:46 AM, wrote: > Went to check it out and it has been removed. Was it that offensive? > Frank Krajewski > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J Russell" > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:43 PM > Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified From ladaniels at sbcglobal.net Fri Dec 9 09:22:14 2011 From: ladaniels at sbcglobal.net (Larry Daniels) Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 10:22:14 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3719E1FAD4A24BFA928AF07ED7545780@HomePC> Frank, make sure you get the whole link. If you merely click on it, you will miss the second line of the link. Or use tinyurl: http://tinyurl.com/82p2fhb -----Original Message----- From: frankk12 at verizon.net Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 6:46 AM To: MG List ; Eric J Russell Subject: Re: [Mgs] slightly modified Went to check it out and it has been removed. Was it that offensive? Frank Krajewski ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric J Russell" To: Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2011 7:43 PM Subject: [Mgs] slightly modified > As seen while wasting time, I mean - browsing - Ebay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/MG-MGA-MGA-STEEL-BODY-BUILT-BIG-BLOCK-/2609077 > 86273?pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item3cbf50e021 > > Item # 260907786273 > > Eric Russell > Mebane, NC > http://home.mebtel.net/~ejrussell > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ladaniels at sbcglobal.net From ccrobins at ktc.com Sat Dec 10 13:54:24 2011 From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley & Peggy Robinson) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 14:54:24 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home In-Reply-To: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> I wonder where the rest of it is. CR On 12/5/2011 2:21 PM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15994147 > Cheers, > > Hans From ptrmgb at gmail.com Sat Dec 10 17:26:13 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 18:26:13 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home In-Reply-To: <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> Message-ID: <3E041D10-1B78-43E3-97A3-6FC0C854191E@gmail.com> The rest can go in through the door. The video said it was going to be rebuilt in the building and be the center of the new exhibit. On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Charley & Peggy Robinson wrote: > I wonder where the rest of it is. > > CR > > On 12/5/2011 2:21 PM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: >> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15994147 >> Cheers, >> >> Hans > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun Dec 11 03:04:11 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 10:04:11 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> Message-ID: <93522AFC470F44FD9AF6B88796AE310A@paul> That went on through the front door. It's an old building, never designed with displaying cars in mind, probably pre-dating the motor car anyway. They didn't put it through the window for fun, it was the only way of getting it in, and even then only by removing the screen and running gear, and even that only gave them about 15mm clearance. As the commentary said, it will be reassembled in-situ. ----- Original Message ----- >I wonder where the rest of it is. From shop at justbrits.com Sun Dec 11 18:27:35 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 19:27:35 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Engineering 101 - Finding Packaging tech solutions..... In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4EE55887.6070106@justbrits.com> On 12/11/2011 2:05 PM, Rick Feibusch wrote: > *submitted by Bill B. of Atascadero, CA:* > > Cost Effective Engineering Solution > > A toothpaste factory had a problem: they sometimes shipped empty > boxes, without the tube inside. This was due to the way the > production line was set up, and people with experience in designing > production lines will tell you how difficult it is to have > everything happen with timings so precise that every single unit > coming out of it is perfect 100% of the time. Small variations in > the environment (which can not be controlled in a cost-effective > fashion) mean you must have quality assurance checks smartly > distributed across the line so that customers all the way down to > the supermarket don't get angry and buy another product instead. > > Understanding how important that was, the CEO of the toothpaste > factory got the top people in the company together and they decided > to start a new project, in which they would hire an external > engineering company to solve their empty boxes problem, as their > engineering department was already too stretched to take on any > extra effort. > > The project followed the usual process: budget and project sponsor > allocated, RFP, third-parties selected, and six months (and $8 > million) later they had a fantastic solution - on time, on budget, > high quality and everyone in the project had a great time. They > solved the problem by using high-tech precision scales that would > sound a bell and flash lights whenever a toothpaste box would weigh > less than it should. The line would stop, and someone had to walk > over and yank the defective box out of it, pressing another button > when done to re-start the line. > > A while later, the CEO decides to have a look at the ROI of the > project: amazing results! No empty boxes ever shipped out of the > factory after the scales were put in place. Very few customer > complaints, and they were gaining market share. "That's some money > well spent!" he says, before looking closely at the other statistics > in the report. > > It turns out, the number of defects picked up by the scales was 0 > after three weeks of production use. It should have been picking up > at least a dozen a day, so maybe there was something wrong with the > report. He filed a bug against it, and after some investigation, > the engineers come back saying the report was actually correct. The > scales really weren't picking up any defects, because all boxes that > got to that point in the conveyor belt were good. > > Puzzled, the CEO travels down to the factory, and walks up to the > part of the line where the precision scales were installed. A few > feet before the scale, there was a $20 desk fan, blowing the empty > boxes off of the belt and into a trash bin. > > "Oh, that,"? says one of the workers"one of the guys put it there > 'cause he was tired of having to walk over every time the bell rang"!! From shop at justbrits.com Sun Dec 11 22:54:02 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2011 23:54:02 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home In-Reply-To: <93522AFC470F44FD9AF6B88796AE310A@paul> References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> <93522AFC470F44FD9AF6B88796AE310A@paul> Message-ID: <4EE596FA.40506@justbrits.com> Paul, I am fairly certain that YOU of all Listers might be the most likely answer MY question re your explanation of the car's "entrance".......... << On 12/11/2011 4:04 AM, Paul Hunt wrote: It's an old building, never designed with displaying cars in mind, probably pre-dating the motor car anyway. They didn't put it through the window for fun, it was the only way of getting it in, ..... >> I seem to re-call from either my late High School or early collage either READING or HEARING [at lecture] SOMEPLACE that doors/entrance ways were actually designed and/or just built in that NARROW width space to prevent mounted armoured soldiers from being able to enter a "building" ?!?!? I realize it is plausible, but is it true ? ? ? From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Dec 12 02:06:58 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:06:58 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c><4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> <93522AFC470F44FD9AF6B88796AE310A@paul> <4EE596FA.40506@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Almost certainly true in medieval times, although not so much for horseback as to restrict the mobility of attackers on foot with swords, which is why doorways seem so low and narrow to us. For a similar reason spiral staircases in castles were always built with a right-hand twist as you go up to restrict how well an attacker could wield his sword, but not a defender, right-handedness being the norm. Abingdon Museum is actually a town hall and market hall built long after that, where the design was more a factor of aesthetics than practicalities, and first-floor windows are way above horse-mounted attackers :o) ----- Original Message ----- > I seem to re-call from either my late High School or early collage > either READING or HEARING [at lecture] > SOMEPLACE that doors/entrance ways were actually designed and/or just > built in that NARROW width space > to prevent mounted armoured soldiers from being able to enter a > "building" ?!?!? From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 13 11:47:46 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (Mark LaPierre) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:47:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days Message-ID: <000601ccb9c7$b4e21e50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> OK, I must have been booted off the list From ptrmgb at gmail.com Tue Dec 13 12:29:22 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:29:22 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days In-Reply-To: <000601ccb9c7$b4e21e50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000601ccb9c7$b4e21e50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <54297F31-A23F-453F-BBB7-AC2FDF89657F@gmail.com> If you haven't seen any emails in a while, and are wondering if you are still on the list, then the thing to do is to go to the archive as shown in the footer and see when the last message was sent. There was just 1 message yesterday. 3 on Sunday. On Dec 13, 2011, at 12:47 PM, Mark LaPierre wrote: > OK, I must have been booted off the list > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com From mgbob at juno.com Tue Dec 13 12:42:50 2011 From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 19:42:50 GMT Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days Message-ID: <20111213.144250.27822.0@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> Mark, Probably not booted off the list. At least one of us received your message. There may not be much happening in the wonderful world of MGs this month. There is a flicker of life in CT, where we held a tech session Saturday, during which the marvels of a corroded fuse block were explored, a member gave a demo of flaring cupro-nickel brake tubing, others pondered installation of air filters on an HIF-equipped 1975 MGB, a thermostat was changed in a GT, and plans were made for a thrust-washer tech session on 14 January. Not only were there those fine activities, but consumption of much coffee and many donuts was accomplished. A 1969 Midget owner was in attendance. He is interested in the Midget equivalent of thrust-washer replacement. How similar is this to that of Salisbury (tube-type) MGB axles? Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Mark LaPierre" To: Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 13:47:46 -0500 OK, I must have been booted off the list From steve at coastaldatasystems.com Tue Dec 13 13:11:55 2011 From: steve at coastaldatasystems.com (Stephen West-Fisher) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 15:11:55 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days In-Reply-To: <000601ccb9c7$b4e21e50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> References: <000601ccb9c7$b4e21e50$4001a8c0@markl946cfrd7q> Message-ID: <019b01ccb9d3$763080f0$629182d0$@com> Uhoh folks, he figured it out... -- Stephen West-Fisher N4IK -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Mark LaPierre Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 1:48 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days OK, I must have been booted off the list From barneymg at mgaguru.com Tue Dec 13 15:28:44 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 16:28:44 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] No posts for 3 days In-Reply-To: <20111213.144250.27822.0@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> References: <20111213.144250.27822.0@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <201112132228.pBDMSj2j015875@nlpi157.prodigy.net> Mostly different. The Midget rear axle is A-series banjo style, similar to MGA and early MGB (pre-1968). Changing thrust washers is same procedure as changing sun gears during a differential swap. See here: http://chicagolandmgclub.com/photos/a_diff This session was an MGA receiving an MGB differental. Midget parts are smaller but similar. Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 07:42 PM 12/13/2011 +0000, mgbob at juno.com wrote: >.... A 1969 Midget owner was in attendance. He is interested in the >Midget equivalent of thrust-washer replacement. How similar is this >to that of Salisbury (tube-type) MGB axles? >.... From dwoerpel at wi.net Wed Dec 14 12:53:12 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 13:53:12 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] For Sale 1958 MGA Message-ID: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> I took a look at a 1958 MGA rdstr the other day that a guy wants to sell as he has no time to restore it. It needs total restoration. This is a big project car as you will see from the pics at this link: The car has been sitting as is for 20 years. The owner doesn't know how to pass it on so I was contacted by a mutual friend. I have *no financial interest* but, just like the owner, I want to see this car salvaged and running again. I almost walked away with it as I could sell the parts and come out ahead but the car is too complete for that. The owner wishes to sell the entire car and parts to someone who will put it back on the road and not piece it out. All the parts are there as far as I can tell and are now stored on pallets and shrink wrapped. I believe the doors to be original to the car and therefore should fit properly. It has a wooden dash and an 1800cc "B" serieshead and maybe the engine (no engine number) also (I couldn't see the side of the block). I believe the frame to be sound but couldn't get a real good look. The battery box frames were mostly there. The aluminum bonnet & boot lid were excellent, except for luggage rack holes. The sills are gone and it looks like the doglegs of the rear wings are also gone. Bodywork is needed. Don Shine is the owner and I know for a fact you can get this car for less than $700.00, probably less than $500. Look at the pictures and give DON a call. Owner/seller: Don Shine, Waukesha WI, 53186, phone: 414-791-2847 Link: http://s468.photobucket.com/albums/rr49/Gowom/1957%20MGA%20HDL43%2043529/ I hope I see HDL43/43529 on the road and at Road America sometime...heck I'll even help rebuild the thing. Dave Woerpel Burlington WI '59 MGA 1500 rdstr '59 :{) '05 MINI Cooper S 262.763.6815 From shop at justbrits.com Thu Dec 15 11:22:59 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 18:22:59 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> Message-ID: <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> << On 12/14/2011 8:05 PM, Jack Laird wrote: Why o why are they always on the other end of the country. >> WHY & so what, Jack ?!? You HAVE p/u AND trailer !?!?! PLUS "you" "need" a 'PROJECT' ! ! ! LOL "Stirring" Ed From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Thu Dec 15 11:02:44 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 10:02:44 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Ed, I think you are living in the past! Check the date on your computer..... ;-) Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: "" Just Brits " Shop" To: Cc: Spridgets ; MGs Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2011 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA << On 12/14/2011 8:05 PM, Jack Laird wrote: Why o why are they always on the other end of the country. >> WHY & so what, Jack ?!? You HAVE p/u AND trailer !?!?! PLUS "you" "need" a 'PROJECT' ! ! ! LOL "Stirring" Ed _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From shop at justbrits.com Thu Dec 15 18:00:45 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 19:00:45 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4EEA983D.7010702@justbrits.com> T N X. Dan ! ! ! << On 12/15/2011 12:02 PM, Dan DiBiase wrote: > Ed, I think you are living in the past! Check the date on your > computer..... ;-) >> I was double checkin' as to when some "local archives" came about & when I wanted to return to "the present" , I BooBoo'ed ! ! ! LOL ! Moi From davewillner at pa.net Fri Dec 16 05:06:07 2011 From: davewillner at pa.net (davewillner) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:06:07 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator Message-ID: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> I purchased a replacement Lucas alternator a few weeks ago and found that even though it was listed for a 70, the brackets (hangers) did not fit my, what I believe are original, mounting brackets. The width of the alternator tabs (where the mounting bolts go) is 3 1/4" on the inside and 4 1/4" on the outside. Is this the correct width(s) for a 70? The rear "tab" has a small spacer attached to the outside sticking out maybe 1/4" - 3/8" also... Any advice would be appreciated, thanks Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS From palte at gmx.net Fri Dec 16 05:49:26 2011 From: palte at gmx.net (Bert Palte) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:49:26 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator In-Reply-To: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> References: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> Message-ID: <20111216124926.267090@gmx.net> 78 and 105 mm, yes, here (on my spare alt). There is an adjustment provided. The bush you call a spacer can be shifted inside the alternator lug. Don't use a hammer, however, you will break the lug. I made a special tool to shift the bush. I don't have any pics right now. The idea is to put a piece of pipe just outside the bush and then use a bolt and nut to exert force upon the bush. Bert -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > Datum: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 07:06:07 -0500 > Von: "davewillner" > An: mgs at autox.team.net > Betreff: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator > I purchased a replacement Lucas alternator a few weeks ago and found that > even > though it was listed for a 70, the brackets (hangers) did not fit my, what > I > believe are original, mounting brackets. The width of the alternator tabs > (where the mounting bolts go) is 3 1/4" on the inside and 4 1/4" on the > outside. Is this the correct width(s) for a 70? The rear "tab" has a small > spacer attached to the outside sticking out maybe 1/4" - 3/8" also... Any > advice would be appreciated, thanks > > Dave Willner > Stroudsburg PA > 59 TR3A > 70 MGB > 70 BSA 441 VS > -- NEU: FreePhone - 0ct/min Handyspartarif mit Geld-zurC References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EEA983D.7010702@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Hello folks What does T N X mean? Ed's cryptic verbiage is sometimes difficult to understand At 08:00 PM 12/15/2011, \" Just Brits \" Shop wrote: >T N X. Dan ! ! ! > ><< On 12/15/2011 12:02 PM, Dan DiBiase wrote: > > Ed, I think you are living in the past! Check the date on your > > computer..... ;-) >> > >I was double checkin' as to when some "local archives" came about & >when I wanted >to return to "the present" , I BooBoo'ed ! ! ! LOL ! > >Moi >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Fri Dec 16 08:28:28 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 15:28:28 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator In-Reply-To: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> References: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> Message-ID: I would think the alternator(s) would have a model number on it somewhere. I would normally think there would only be one standard alternator for the late 60s - early 70s. But I faced a similar problem with my 64 B's generator., having to adjust the brackets. The generator that came with the car was slightly larger and had a different number on it which, through the Internet, led me to find that it was a C40L generator (as opposed to a C40 perhaps). I also found a website that stated that the C40L generator was an upgrade offered for cars used in cold weather climates, with a somewhat higher output. So perhaps this is a similar situation with alternators? David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of davewillner Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 5:06 AM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator I purchased a replacement Lucas alternator a few weeks ago and found that even though it was listed for a 70, the brackets (hangers) did not fit my, what I believe are original, mounting brackets. The width of the alternator tabs (where the mounting bolts go) is 3 1/4" on the inside and 4 1/4" on the outside. Is this the correct width(s) for a 70? The rear "tab" has a small spacer attached to the outside sticking out maybe 1/4" - 3/8" also... Any advice would be appreciated, thanks Dave Willner Stroudsburg PA 59 TR3A 70 MGB 70 BSA 441 VS From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Dec 16 06:43:12 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:43:12 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator References: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> <20111216124926.267090@gmx.net> Message-ID: If the spacer is sticking out so as to stop the alternator fitting between the block brackets then a socket on the back large enough for the spacer tube to fit inside, then clamped up in a vice should move it back in. If there is slack and some spacer tube sticking out the inside face then just bolting it up should move it into the correct position. My 73 18V rear bracket is adjustable also, see http://www.paulhunt73.webspace.virginmedia.com/mgb-stuff/images/altbee1.jpg PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > There is an adjustment provided. > The bush you call a spacer can be shifted inside the alternator lug. > > The idea is to put a piece of pipe just outside the bush and then use a > bolt and nut to exert force upon the bush. From peter at nosimport.com Fri Dec 16 09:12:47 2011 From: peter at nosimport.com (Peter Caldwell) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:12:47 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EEA983D.7010702@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <201112160812746.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> At 09:22 AM 12/16/2011, Barrie Robinson wrote: >Hello folks > >What does T N X mean? Ed's cryptic verbiage is sometimes difficult >to understand >At 08:00 PM 12/15/2011, \" Just Brits \" Shop wrote: >>T N X. Dan ! ! ! ========================= That's Ed's spaced-out reply. T N X Translation: Tnx translation: Thanx translation: Thanks translation: Thank you translation: Thank you very much, have a great day.... you want fries widat? Peter C From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Dec 16 09:18:42 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 16:18:42 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] 1970 MGB alternator References: <8F9BAA9BF7D54EC2AA66DE7ED7C14815@valued9cfc0b6f> Message-ID: Police-spec MGB had higher output dynamos. They got an alternator with separate control box in 1964, but the remainder didn't get one until the Mk2 in 67, which was the 16AC with separate control unit. There was then the 16ACR with integral control unit, then the 17ACR and the 18ACR at further change points. There were variants over time within each of these, for example three different 16ACR and two different 17ACR. There is no information in Clausager about alternatives for different uses and conditions. An alternator would be used on many applications, and there would be many different alternators for specific applications with detail differences. I have a Mini Metro alternator that fits my MGB, with a slight adjustment of the rear bracket, so I keep it as a spare for long journeys even though the pulley is a different size which gives a lower output at a given rpm, but will still get me home. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- >I would think the alternator(s) would have a model number on it somewhere. >I > would normally think there would only be one standard alternator for the > late > 60s - early 70s. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Dec 16 09:39:00 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 10:39:00 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: <201112160812746.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> References: <4EE8FEA8.5040300@wi.net> <4EC29FF2.3080201@justbrits.com> <1323972164.67332.YahooMailNeo@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <4EEA983D.7010702@justbrits.com> <201112160812746.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <4EEB7424.90209@justbrits.com> << On 12/16/2011 10:12 AM, Peter Caldwell wrote: > translation: Thank you very much, have a great day.... you want > fries widat? >> Super-sized ? ? ? er, is dat 'Merican'ed or 'KanuK'ed ??? From melfrankus at carolina.rr.com Fri Dec 16 10:30:33 2011 From: melfrankus at carolina.rr.com (melfrankus at carolina.rr.com) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2011 17:30:33 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] [Spridgets] For Sale 1958 MGA In-Reply-To: <201112160812746.SM01420@TOSHIBA-USER3.nosimport.com> Message-ID: <20111216173033.GQJP2.47019.root@cdptpa-web18-z02> Gracias! Feliz Navidad! Chanukah Tov! y'all ---- Peter Caldwell wrote: > At 09:22 AM 12/16/2011, Barrie Robinson wrote: > >Hello folks > > > >What does T N X mean? Ed's cryptic verbiage is sometimes difficult > >to understand > > >At 08:00 PM 12/15/2011, \" Just Brits \" Shop wrote: > >>T N X. Dan ! ! ! > > ========================= > > That's Ed's spaced-out reply. T N X > Translation: Tnx > translation: Thanx > translation: Thanks > translation: Thank you > translation: Thank you very much, have a great day.... you > want fries widat? > > Peter C > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/melfrankus at carolina.rr.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Dec 17 17:51:47 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (" Just Brits " Shop) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 18:51:47 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: ..B..ugeye/..F..rogeye Club..... ..B..ugeye for sale Ebay Message-ID: <4EED3923.4080703@justbrits.com> From one of the Bugeye Lists ! ! I know NOTHING besides what below says !?!?!? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Bugeye/Frogeye Club..... Bugeye for sale Ebay Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 00:32:56 -0000 From: JOHN Reply-To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com To: bugeye at yahoogroups.com There is a 61 Bugeye Sprite for sale in Orlando FL on Ebay. The auction # is 320814666076 . No connection to the sale, just thought the group might be interested. JB __._,_.___ From schultejim at msn.com Thu Dec 22 05:54:35 2011 From: schultejim at msn.com (James Schulte ) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:54:35 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Seasons greetings. Message-ID: Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night or day or whatever time zone you are in. (-; Jim Schulte 70B 58 Magnette ZB Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T -----Original Message----- From: John Shoemaker Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:50:18 To: Subject: Re: Seasons greetings. I to would like to wish everyone a Happy Holiday from sunny Florida USA, home of year around car shows. John Shoemaker On Dec 22, 2011, at 3:33 AM, Grant Howlett wrote: To All ZMG-Magnetteers, Wishing you all Seasons Greetings for The Holidays, >From across the pond in Merry Old England. Best wishes, Grant& "Lord Peter-"za Magnette --- On Wed, 21/12/11, Allen Bachelder > wrote: From: Allen Bachelder > Subject: Re: New Member To: zmagnette at mgcars.org.uk Date: Wednesday, 21 December, 2011, 21:15 David, Now you know how small the world is. Jim bought his Mk IV from me! Allen *************************************************** Allen Bachelder =iii=< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '58 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049 http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs *************************************************** On Dec 21, 2011, at 3:28 PM, James Hickman wrote: i have a mark IV project, you're a brave man (or fool, which of US would say) to take a drive like that. you must be somewhere near columbia. i went to a former-college-room-mate's wedding there once. i assume you are "on" the mg experience website. i don't see any maggie's for sale there. i do know that a fellow on that forum has two, rob meier and has toyed with selling one. his email is mgbgts at hotmail.com you might also think about one of those websites that does nationwide craigslist searching. happy hunting. jimTN On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:22 AM, David Bishop > wrote: Jim, I'm about 50 miles south of Nashville in a little town called Chapel Hill. But distance is not an issue for the right car. I once bought a Magnette mk3 in Florida and drove it home to CT, and I would do the same again, time permiting. I also have a home on Long Island, NY, so any nice car will be considered. Thanks. On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:50 PM, James Hickman > wrote: if i'm not being too forward...where in TN? oh, i could make a number of suggestions of who to ask. I bet Wray could give him a steer and there is a guy on the MGE named Rob, i think, who has two and sometimes they are for sale and sometimes not. worth an email. jimTN On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 3:05 PM, > wrote: ALLEN PUT HIM IN THE wOLSELEY OF GORDON'S Tom Thaxton In a message dated 12/20/2011 12:33:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, bachldrs at comcast.net writes: Hey Gang, we have a new member. He's David Bishop from Tennessee, and no stranger to British saloons. At the moment, David does not yet have a Magnette but he's looking for one and I'm hoping we can help him in his search. Please join me in welcoming David to our little asylum. Holiday cheers, Allen *************************************************** Allen Bachelder =iii=< Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs '58 ZB, '65 B, '69 C/GT, '73 B/GT North Street, MI 48049 http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs *************************************************** -- James R. Hickman, Jr. Attorney at Law Hickman, Gray & Associates, PLLC 101 Bruce Street Sevierville, TN 37862 865-453-9996 -- James R. Hickman, Jr. Attorney at Law Hickman, Gray & Associates, PLLC 101 Bruce Street Sevierville, TN 37862 865-453-9996 From mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com Thu Dec 22 09:01:25 2011 From: mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com (W. David Houser) Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:01:25 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Seasons greetings. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Let me jump in here while this thread is moving around and echo the sentiments for a wonderful Christmas and a Happy and Healthy New Year. Cheers, Dave Houser Lovin' Florida 53TD, 60 A Coupe and 67 BGT Special On Dec 22, 2011, at 7:54 AM, James Schulte wrote: > Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night or day or whatever > time zone > you are in. (-; > Jim Schulte > 70B > 58 Magnette ZB > Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Shoemaker > Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2011 11:50:18 > To: > Subject: Re: Seasons greetings. > > I to would like to wish everyone a Happy Holiday from sunny Florida > USA, home > of year around car shows. > > > John Shoemaker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Dec 22, 2011, at > 3:33 AM, Grant Howlett wrote: > > > To All ZMG-Magnetteers, > Wishing you all > Seasons Greetings for The Holidays, > From across the pond in Merry Old > England. > Best wishes, > Grant& "Lord Peter-"za Magnette > > --- On Wed, 21/12/11, > Allen Bachelder > > wrote: > From: Allen Bachelder > > > Subject: Re: New Member > To: zmagnette at mgcars.org.uk > > Date: Wednesday, 21 December, 2011, 21:15 > David, > > > Now you know how small the world is. Jim bought his Mk IV from me! > Allen > > > > > *************************************************** > Allen > Bachelder =iii=< > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs > '58 ZB, '65 B, '69 > C/GT, '73 B/GT > North Street, MI 48049 > http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs > *************************************************** > > > > > On Dec 21, 2011, at > 3:28 PM, James Hickman wrote: > > i have a mark IV project, you're a brave man > (or fool, which of US would say) to take a drive like that. you must > be > somewhere near columbia. i went to a former-college-room-mate's > wedding there > once. i assume you are "on" the mg experience website. i don't see any > maggie's for sale there. i do know that a fellow on that forum has > two, rob > meier and has toyed with selling one. his email is mgbgts at hotmail.com > > you might > also think about one of those websites that does nationwide craigslist > searching. happy hunting. > > jimTN > > > > On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:22 AM, > David Bishop > > wrote: > Jim, I'm about 50 miles south of Nashville in a little town called > Chapel > Hill. But distance is not an issue for the right car. I once bought > a Magnette > mk3 in Florida and drove it home to CT, and I would do the same > again, time > permiting. I also have a home on Long Island, NY, so any nice car > will be > considered. Thanks. > > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at 6:50 PM, James Hickman > > > > wrote: > > if i'm not being too forward...where in TN? oh, i could make a number > of suggestions of who to ask. I bet Wray could give him a steer and > there is a > guy on the MGE named Rob, i think, who has two and sometimes they > are for sale > and sometimes not. worth an email. > > jimTN > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 20, 2011 at > 3:05 PM, > > wrote: > ALLEN PUT HIM IN THE wOLSELEY OF GORDON'S Tom Thaxton > > > > In a > message dated 12/20/2011 12:33:35 P.M. Central Standard Time, > bachldrs at comcast.net > > writes: > Hey Gang, we have a new member. He's David Bishop from Tennessee, > and no > stranger to British saloons. At the moment, David does not yet have a > Magnette but he's looking for one and I'm hoping we can help him in > his > search. > > Please join me in welcoming David to our little asylum. > > Holiday > cheers, > Allen > *************************************************** > Allen > Bachelder =iii=< > Spring Creek Home for Wayward MGs > '58 ZB, '65 B, '69 > C/GT, '73 B/GT > North Street, MI 48049 > http://www.mgexperience.net/member/bachldrs > *************************************************** > > > > > > > -- > > James R. > Hickman, Jr. > Attorney at Law > Hickman, Gray & Associates, PLLC > 101 Bruce Street > Sevierville, TN 37862 > 865-453-9996 > > > > > -- > > James R. Hickman, Jr. > Attorney at > Law > Hickman, Gray & Associates, PLLC > 101 Bruce Street > Sevierville, TN 37862 > 865-453-9996 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgs4dave at tampabay.rr.com From dwoerpel at wi.net Fri Dec 23 09:48:32 2011 From: dwoerpel at wi.net (Woerpel) Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2011 10:48:32 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Holidays Message-ID: <4EF4B0E0.8080006@wi.net> We here at the Clan Woerpel household, wish everyone a very Merry, Joyous, Happy, and Healthy Holiday Season. May the New Year bring lots of great LBC weather so that we may be able to enjoy our motorcars and each other. See you at the races, swap meets and conclaves! The Clan: Dave & Terri Woerpel Adam & Andrea Woerpel Anna Woerpel 1959 :{) AN5L/17606 1959 MGA HDR 43/62403 2005 MINI Cooper S 2008 Volvo S60 2006 Ford Escape 2005 Ford Focus From grunt333 at comcast.net Sat Dec 24 07:22:42 2011 From: grunt333 at comcast.net (grunt333 at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:22:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mgs] Holidays In-Reply-To: <4EF4B0E0.8080006@wi.net> Message-ID: <1326581930.1655607.1324736562520.JavaMail.root@sz0157a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> A very merry Christmes to all CarlE ----- Original Message ----- From: "Woerpel" To: "MGs" , "Spridgets" Sent: Friday, December 23, 2011 11:48:32 AM Subject: [Mgs] Holidays We here at the Clan Woerpel household, wish everyone a very Merry, Joyous, Happy, and Healthy Holiday Season. May the New Year bring lots of great LBC weather so that we may be able to enjoy our motorcars and each other. See you at the races, swap meets and conclaves! The Clan: Dave & Terri Woerpel Adam & Andrea Woerpel Anna Woerpel 1959 :{) AN5L/17606 1959 MGA HDR 43/62403 2005 MINI Cooper S 2008 Volvo S60 2006 Ford Escape 2005 Ford Focus _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/grunt333 at comcast.net From difejo at optonline.net Sat Dec 24 10:47:41 2011 From: difejo at optonline.net (John Di Fede) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 12:47:41 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] test Message-ID: <0BFA037673804810AAFF2DBAFF138E2A@GATEWAY> Having trouble posting my question. This is a test John DiFede From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Sat Dec 24 15:06:51 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 14:06:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mgs] test In-Reply-To: <0BFA037673804810AAFF2DBAFF138E2A@GATEWAY> References: <0BFA037673804810AAFF2DBAFF138E2A@GATEWAY> Message-ID: <1324764411.67719.YahooMailNeo@web39404.mail.mud.yahoo.com> You should have posted your question instead of 'test'! ;-) Dan D Central NJ USA ________________________________ From: John Di Fede To: mgs at autox.team.net Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2011 12:47 PM Subject: [Mgs] test Having trouble posting my question. This is a test John DiFede _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From rdwilt at pol.net Sat Dec 24 20:28:58 2011 From: rdwilt at pol.net (Roger Wilt) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:28:58 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGB pic on Fox Message-ID: <137AD89AD2B44C6CAA9E5248BA6B8D04@Gateway> An article posted on Fox News "What should Santa drive?" shows St. Nick in a nice 70's Red MGB - Brought a smile to my face :) Merry Christmas everyone! http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/12/24/what-should-santa-drive/?test=faces Roger Wilt Columbus OH 51 MGTD 74 MGB (red!!) From ptrmgb at gmail.com Sat Dec 24 21:09:04 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2011 22:09:04 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] MGB pic on Fox In-Reply-To: <137AD89AD2B44C6CAA9E5248BA6B8D04@Gateway> References: <137AD89AD2B44C6CAA9E5248BA6B8D04@Gateway> Message-ID: Nice, but I dispute an impreza getting 34mpg. I never got better than 25 in my 99. My B gets at least that. sent from my Android phone On Dec 24, 2011 9:30 PM, "Roger Wilt" wrote: > An article posted on Fox News "What should Santa drive?" shows St. Nick > in a > nice 70's Red MGB - Brought a smile to my face :) > Merry Christmas everyone! > > http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2011/12/24/what-should-santa-drive/?test=faces > Roger Wilt > Columbus OH > 51 MGTD > 74 MGB (red!!) > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com From difejo at optonline.net Sun Dec 25 09:17:29 2011 From: difejo at optonline.net (John Di Fede) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:17:29 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses Message-ID: List, I have not posted here in years, although I receive the daily summary post. I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 MGB. The front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to the brake line. As originally designed, my MGB has a plate that captures the OEM style front hose and prevents it from twisting and possibly loosening it's connection with the brake line. Without the capture plate, It appears that the join between the SS hose and the brake line may loosen over time - caused by the motion of the front wheel turning back and forth. Has anyone else encountered this? Any ideas? Any solutions other than going back to a OEM spec hose? Thanks, Merry Christmas, Happy holidays, Happy New Year John DiFede 1973 MGB From awhitema at panix.com Sun Dec 25 10:06:31 2011 From: awhitema at panix.com (Aaron Whiteman) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:06:31 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] MGB pic on Fox In-Reply-To: References: <137AD89AD2B44C6CAA9E5248BA6B8D04@Gateway> Message-ID: On Dec 24, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Paul Root wrote: > Nice, but I dispute an impreza getting 34mpg. I never got better than 25 in > my 99. My B gets at least that. My B gets 24-28[0] hwy (vs 27-30 typical on my 2006 Subaru), 12-18 city of Pullman (18-20 on the Subaru). Other cities are flatter, so I suspect my mileage would potentially improve if I lived one one of those. However, the new Impreza has a new 2.0L, which is rated at 34. With my past experience with EPA vs real-world, it should get that too. From kgrowler at gmail.com Sun Dec 25 10:30:38 2011 From: kgrowler at gmail.com (Kim Tonry) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 11:30:38 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] test Message-ID: << Subject: [Mgs] test Having trouble posting my question. This is a test John DiFede>>> If we're going to start giving tests here, I prefer multiple choice. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL From awhitema at panix.com Sun Dec 25 10:33:38 2011 From: awhitema at panix.com (Aaron Whiteman) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 09:33:38 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Dec 25, 2011, at 9:30 AM, Kim Tonry wrote: > If we're going to start giving tests here, I prefer multiple choice. As long as I don't have to write in a bluebook any more, I'm good. From barrie at look.ca Sun Dec 25 11:51:34 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 13:51:34 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGB pic on Fox In-Reply-To: References: <137AD89AD2B44C6CAA9E5248BA6B8D04@Gateway> Message-ID: Folks at world, Seeing mpg figures interested me. I used to drive an MGB GT for years summer and winter - yes snow storms, freezing rain, several feet of snow. This because my Maserati Biturbo was less than manageable in snow. My MG got around the 24-28 as mentioned. But because the GT was asthmatic I decide to build to factory specs (except for the 3.5L Rover motor being warmed over). Mileage you ask???? Well my carefully monitored trip to Townsend in the darkest US south gave 38mpg !! And the MGB GT V8 production was halted because it was a "petrol hog" and they had the fuel crisis !!!!! And a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to all At 12:06 PM 12/25/2011, Aaron Whiteman wrote: >On Dec 24, 2011, at 8:09 PM, Paul Root wrote: > > > Nice, but I dispute an impreza getting 34mpg. I never got better than 25 in > > my 99. My B gets at least that. > >My B gets 24-28[0] hwy (vs 27-30 typical on my 2006 Subaru), 12-18 city of >Pullman (18-20 on the Subaru). Other cities are flatter, so I suspect my >mileage would potentially improve if I lived one one of those. > >However, the new Impreza has a new 2.0L, which is rated at 34. With my past >experience with EPA vs real-world, it should get that too. >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From g.schnittke at comcast.net Sun Dec 25 18:39:57 2011 From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:39:57 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] test Message-ID: <4EF7D06D.7050604@comcast.net> > << From: John Di Fede > Subject: [Mgs] test > > Having trouble posting my question. This is a test > > John DiFede>>> > > If we're going to start giving tests here, I prefer multiple choice. True or false, open book, at home, beer in hand. Glenn From g.schnittke at comcast.net Sun Dec 25 18:58:55 2011 From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 19:58:55 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Re; Goodridge SS brake hoses Message-ID: <4EF7D4DF.2080402@comcast.net> If you put an inside star-type lock washer on each side of the bulkhead tab, then neither side can move. That's the practical answer. The other answer is safety wire and then you get the performance of cross-drilled brake lines at the same time. *<;^)== Merry Christmas. Glenn > From: John Di Fede > To:mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > List, > > > > I have not posted here in years, although I receive the daily summary post. > > > > I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 MGB. The > front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to the > brake line. As originally designed, my MGB has a plate that captures the > OEM style front hose and prevents it from twisting and possibly loosening > it's connection with the brake line. Without the capture plate, It appears > that the join between the SS hose and the brake line may loosen over time - > caused by the motion of the front wheel turning back and forth. > > > > Has anyone else encountered this? Any ideas? Any solutions other than > going back to a OEM spec hose? From ddarby at centurytel.net Sun Dec 25 22:17:35 2011 From: ddarby at centurytel.net (David F. Darby) Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2011 23:17:35 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] test In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: If we're going to start giving tests here, I prefer multiple choice. ;-) Kim Tonry Downers Grove, IL _______________________________________________ Hey Kim, tell it like it is. One of my old profs correctly called it "multiple guess." Season's greetings to all. David From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Tue Dec 27 02:07:30 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 09:07:30 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses References: Message-ID: <89F47DDFF25445849B7D6108430417E0@paul> Then it's the wrong one. SS braided hoses shouldn't be used anyway, unless you are going to replace them on a routine basis. ----- Original Message ----- > I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 MGB. The > front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to > the > brake line. As originally designed, my MGB has a plate that captures the > OEM style front hose and prevents it from twisting and possibly loosening > it's connection with the brake line. Without the capture plate, It > appears > that the join between the SS hose and the brake line may loosen over > time - > caused by the motion of the front wheel turning back and forth. From pchast at francomm.com Tue Dec 27 08:52:56 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 10:52:56 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses In-Reply-To: <89F47DDFF25445849B7D6108430417E0@paul> References: <89F47DDFF25445849B7D6108430417E0@paul> Message-ID: Ok Paul that's the first that I heard that about replacement. It wasn't in their data sheet and I used them on my motorcycle. OEM are not available in new product... Pete On Tue, 27 Dec 2011 04:07:30 -0500, Paul Hunt wrote: > > Then it's the wrong one. SS braided hoses shouldn't be used anyway, > unless you are going to replace them on a routine basis. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 MGB. >> The >> front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to >> the >> brake line. As originally designed, my MGB has a plate that captures >> the >> OEM style front hose and prevents it from twisting and possibly >> loosening >> it's connection with the brake line. Without the capture plate, It >> appears >> that the join between the SS hose and the brake line may loosen over >> time - >> caused by the motion of the front wheel turning back and forth. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/pchast at francomm.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From ccrobins at ktc.com Tue Dec 27 13:20:57 2011 From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley & Peggy Robinson) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 14:20:57 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Last MGB back home In-Reply-To: <3E041D10-1B78-43E3-97A3-6FC0C854191E@gmail.com> References: <6BBD6A3BF7F84428A091DBD63DEF422E@uw471de61b465c> <4EE3C700.9000602@ktc.com> <3E041D10-1B78-43E3-97A3-6FC0C854191E@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4EFA28A9.8080704@ktc.com> Oh, OK. I didn't play the entire video. CR On 12/10/2011 6:26 PM, Paul Root wrote: > The rest can go in through the door. The video said it was going to be rebuilt in the building and be the center of the new exhibit. > > On Dec 10, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Charley& Peggy Robinson wrote: > > >> I wonder where the rest of it is. >> >> CR >> >> On 12/5/2011 2:21 PM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: >> >>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-oxfordshire-15994147 >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Hans >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $12.75 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com From g.schnittke at comcast.net Tue Dec 27 18:47:46 2011 From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:47:46 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses Message-ID: <4EFA7542.4030403@comcast.net> I'm kind of puzzled by that one, too, Paul. I've had them on my car (daily driver for almost ten years) with no problem. I'm coming up on an overhaul and I'd like to know your definition of 'routine' and your sources. As long as the threaded diameter on the Goodrich hoses fit the ID of the bulkhead tabs and there is enough flat area to fit a serrated lock washer there shouldn't be any problem. I've run into lots of cars that no longer have the locking plate and have not had any come back as long as TWO lock washers are used. Glenn > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses > Message-ID:<89F47DDFF25445849B7D6108430417E0 at paul> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Then it's the wrong one. SS braided hoses shouldn't be used anyway, unless > you are going to replace them on a routine basis. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 MGB. The >> front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to From chillmog at sbcglobal.net Tue Dec 27 19:36:21 2011 From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill) Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2011 20:36:21 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses In-Reply-To: <4EFA7542.4030403@comcast.net> References: <4EFA7542.4030403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4EFA80A5.90907@sbcglobal.net> Maybe it is an old wife's tale but I have been advised not to use SS braided brake hoses on street cars as the braiding can chafe and damage the rubber hose underneath. Charles Hill On 12/27/2011 7:47 PM, Glenn Schnittke wrote: > I'm kind of puzzled by that one, too, Paul. I've had them on my car > (daily driver for almost ten years) with no problem. I'm coming up on > an overhaul and I'd like to know your definition of 'routine' and your > sources. > > As long as the threaded diameter on the Goodrich hoses fit the ID of > the bulkhead tabs and there is enough flat area to fit a serrated lock > washer there shouldn't be any problem. I've run into lots of cars that > no longer have the locking plate and have not had any come back as > long as TWO lock washers are used. > > Glenn > >> Subject: Re: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses >> Message-ID:<89F47DDFF25445849B7D6108430417E0 at paul> >> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; >> reply-type=original >> >> Then it's the wrong one. SS braided hoses shouldn't be used anyway, >> unless >> you are going to replace them on a routine basis. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>> I am trying to fit the front Goodridge SS brake hoses on my 1973 >>> MGB. The >>> front Goodridge hoses have a smaller fitting where the hose attaches to From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Wed Dec 28 04:13:31 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 11:13:31 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Goodridge SS brake hoses References: <4EFA7542.4030403@comcast.net> Message-ID: <78288CAF432F45F6902D6D56ACA857BE@paul> Because you can't see the rubber you can't see the first fine cracking that eventually develops, and is when you would normally replace them. It's impossible to say when SS hoses should be replaced as it depends on the quality of the rubber, and perhaps the temperature conditions it is used under. If you could get aircraft quality, then you could use their periodicity as a guide. If SS was all I could get then I'd be changing them every few years, but I'd only fit them if there was no other choice. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > I'm kind of puzzled by that one, too, Paul. I've had them on my car (daily > driver for almost ten years) with no problem. I'm coming up on an overhaul > and I'd like to know your definition of 'routine' and your sources. From guinness at stclegal.com Wed Dec 28 09:30:57 2011 From: guinness at stclegal.com (Robert J. Guinness) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 10:30:57 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Media MGA Siting Message-ID: <4EFB4441.8060404@stclegal.com> A black MGA appears with a model draped alongside on page 95 (maybe 96) of the Jan. 2012 Vogue magazine (wife referral) -- Robert Guinness From ptrmgb at gmail.com Wed Dec 28 17:20:19 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:20:19 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who Message-ID: <65D359A5-11B7-4A80-A4F0-7A7308F8E4C5@gmail.com> Anyone see the Dr Who Christmas special? Was that an MG in the early scenes? A TC perhaps? From redscirocco at hotmail.com Wed Dec 28 17:50:01 2011 From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 19:50:01 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who In-Reply-To: <65D359A5-11B7-4A80-A4F0-7A7308F8E4C5@gmail.com> References: <65D359A5-11B7-4A80-A4F0-7A7308F8E4C5@gmail.com> Message-ID: I remember thinking it must be a TA, but I can't remember why. It wasn't on screen long enough to get a really good look. > From: ptrmgb at gmail.com > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:20:19 -0600 > To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who > > Anyone see the Dr Who Christmas special? Was that an MG in the early scenes? A > TC perhaps? > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/redscirocco at hotmail.com From ptrmgb at gmail.com Wed Dec 28 20:49:02 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 21:49:02 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who In-Reply-To: References: <65D359A5-11B7-4A80-A4F0-7A7308F8E4C5@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20C15E09-7107-4B22-B055-5D9C32800BBE@gmail.com> Well, After I sent this, I thought, it couldn't be a TC, because they came after the war. And this was before or early on in the year. So a TA or TB? On Dec 28, 2011, at 6:50 PM, Mike Eldred wrote: > I remember thinking it must be a TA, but I can't remember why. It wasn't on screen long enough to get a really good look. > > > From: ptrmgb at gmail.com > > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 18:20:19 -0600 > > To: mgs at autox.team.net > > Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who > > > > Anyone see the Dr Who Christmas special? Was that an MG in the early scenes? A > > TC perhaps? > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/redscirocco at hotmail.com From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Dec 29 03:05:03 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 10:05:03 -0000 Subject: [Mgs] Dr Who References: <65D359A5-11B7-4A80-A4F0-7A7308F8E4C5@gmail.com> <20C15E09-7107-4B22-B055-5D9C32800BBE@gmail.com> Message-ID: <490842A6882C45A39C07AF4FACAC937B@paul> That rather assumes the film was made in 1941 ... As an American you must be aware that film makers have a cavalier attitude towards truth and accuracy :o) ----- Original Message ----- > After I sent this, I thought, it couldn't be a TC, because they came after > the war. And this was before or early on in the year. From otis15 at aol.com Thu Dec 29 13:36:51 2011 From: otis15 at aol.com (otis15 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 15:36:51 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Mgs] cam intstillation Message-ID: <8CE9480BA92C757-1DB8-3F4E1@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Does anyone know of a good site for dwelling in a new cam. I had a good one from Crane Cams but it won't open anymore. Thanks Steve From cgmoog at optonline.net Thu Dec 29 15:21:31 2011 From: cgmoog at optonline.net (Chris Moog) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 17:21:31 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] cam intstillation In-Reply-To: <8CE9480BA92C757-1DB8-3F4E1@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE9480BA92C757-1DB8-3F4E1@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <4EFCE7EB.9070901@optonline.net> I think Crane went belly up. But Google had the following link (that still works). Have fun www.crane*cams*.com/uploads/instructions/803.pdf On 12/29/2011 3:36 PM, otis15 at aol.com wrote: > Does anyone know of a good site for dwelling in a new cam. I > had a good one from Crane Cams but it won't open anymore. > Thanks > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/cgmoog at optonline.net From barneymg at mgaguru.com Thu Dec 29 17:35:23 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2011 18:35:23 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] cam intstillation In-Reply-To: <4EFCE7EB.9070901@optonline.net> References: <8CE9480BA92C757-1DB8-3F4E1@Webmail-m108.sysops.aol.com> <4EFCE7EB.9070901@optonline.net> Message-ID: <201112300035.pBU0ZOhk024574@nlpi129.prodigy.net> Correct link for the cam degreeing instruction set is: http://cranecams.com/uploads/instructions/803.pdf (387-KB file) Crane Cams was bought up by a motorcycle parts maker. The Crane manufacturing equipmamt was moved to a different facility, and the machinery is back in business making the same parts with the same machine operators. Download catalog here: http://cranecams.com/catalog.php (5.8-MB file) MG cams are on page 264 Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude http://MGAguru.com At 05:21 PM 12/29/2011 -0500, Chris Moog wrote: >I think Crane went belly up. But Google had the following link >(that still works). Have fun > >www.crane*cams*.com/uploads/instructions/803.pdf > > >On 12/29/2011 3:36 PM, otis15 at aol.com wrote: >> Does anyone know of a good site for dwelling in a new cam. I >>had a good one from Crane Cams but it won't open anymore. >> Thanks >> >> Steve >>_______________________________________________ >> >>Mgs at autox.team.net >>Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>Suggested annual donation $12.75 >>Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/cgmoog at optonline.net >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barneymg at mgaguru.com > > >----- >No virus found in this message. >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >Version: 2012.0.1901 / Virus Database: 2109/4710 - Release Date: 12/29/11 From rolds at plausa.com Fri Dec 30 07:04:48 2011 From: rolds at plausa.com (Ron Olds) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:04:48 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Which Generator to Buy Message-ID: Hello Everyone, I am once more going out to the list for your knowledge. I am looking to buy a portable generator. My last one has a burnt out stator and parts are no longer available. It is a Coleman Powermate Maxa 5000 ER with a Tecumseh 10 hp engine. If anyone has a good stator or is in need of a unit with a burnt out stator (the engine runs great and has hardly been used) lets talk. What do you recommend as a brand and or model? I was looking for something in the 8000 watt range. The generator repair shop which checked out my old unit recommended Generac as a good brand to go with. Looking at their generators they offer so many different types in the same power range. Appreciate any advice you can give me. Happy New Year, Ronald Olds Sales Manager Plasser American Corporation PO Box 5464 2001 Myers Road Chesapeake, VA 23324-0464 Phone (757) 543-3526 Cell (630) 240-0818 Fax (757) 494-7186 The information contained in this e-mail including any attachments may be proprietary, privileged or confidential and is intended solely for the use of the addressee. Any unauthorized distribution, disclosure or any other such use is strictly prohibited. Furthermore, any reviews, semination or copying by anyone other than the intended recipient is expressly prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender and destroy all copies of the original transmittal. From PRNDL at sonic.net Fri Dec 30 10:56:19 2011 From: PRNDL at sonic.net (Rod Williams) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 09:56:19 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] Which generator to buy Message-ID: <4AFE0EEE-3CA8-48C0-B3F9-F19E0AFC849B@sonic.net> > What do you recommend as a brand and or model? I was looking for something in At first I thought you were talking about a generator for a pre '68 MG. 8000 Watts!!! Cripes! Oh, portable. I work in film and television production and, although I'm in the camera department, all I *ever* see the electricians use are Honda generators. They are reliable, rugged and dependable. They cost a little more but I've never seen one fail in use. And they get used pretty roughly. I see the 3000 and 6000 watt units a lot. Don't know about something as whopping as an 8K. That's a *big* portable genni. Good luck -- Rod Williams Petaluma, California 1967 MGB From aschneider at shaw.ca Sat Dec 31 13:22:06 2011 From: aschneider at shaw.ca (Aubrey Schneider) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:22:06 -0800 Subject: [Mgs] stromberg tuning/repair? Message-ID: <1C687C5B61CD4351B937A2DB51EA3026@owneraur2ue3rs> Hi all, I have been lurking on & off for a while, observing the concern about traffic. Maybe this will help. I need to do a complete retuning of my Stromberg. From the height of the butterfly ( don't know what else to call ) to timing & finally the setting of the carb. As age overtakes me, I'm not able to follow the manual. Here is the problem. A "well versed garage" took it upon them selves, at my request to get the 75 B thru'Aircare. (smog control) they got it passed but when attempting to bring back the performance side, they gave me back a B that misses constantly, has no power up hills & overheats ( steam billowing from the rad), doesn't start for a long time while cranking. Oil in the dash pot always. Is there someone out there who would be prepared to help me set this carb up for both performance & reasonable fuel consumption. I live in North Vancouver BC Canada so any local help would really be appreciated. Best wishes & a healthy New Year. ps.I have a timing light etc. Aubrey 75 BE From pchast at francomm.com Sat Dec 31 16:39:30 2011 From: pchast at francomm.com (Pete Chast) Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:39:30 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] stromberg tuning/repair? In-Reply-To: <1C687C5B61CD4351B937A2DB51EA3026@owneraur2ue3rs> References: <1C687C5B61CD4351B937A2DB51EA3026@owneraur2ue3rs> Message-ID: did you check the ignition timing? On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:22:06 -0500, Aubrey Schneider wrote: > > Hi all, > > I have been lurking on & off for a while, observing the concern about > traffic. > > Maybe this will help. > > I need to do a complete retuning of my Stromberg. From the height of the > butterfly ( don't know what else to call ) to timing & finally the > setting of > the carb. As age overtakes me, I'm not able to follow the manual. > > Here is the problem. A "well versed garage" took it upon them selves, at > my > request to get the 75 B thru'Aircare. (smog control) they got it passed > but > when attempting to bring back the performance side, they gave me back a > B that > misses constantly, has no power up hills & overheats ( steam billowing > from > the rad), doesn't start for a long time while cranking. Oil in the dash > pot > always. > > Is there someone out there who would be prepared to help me set this > carb up > for both performance & reasonable fuel consumption. > > I live in North Vancouver BC Canada so any local help would really be > appreciated. > > Best wishes & a healthy New Year. > ps.I have a timing light etc. > Aubrey > 75 BE > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/pchast at francomm.com -- Using Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/ From mgbob at juno.com Sat Dec 31 18:54:08 2011 From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com) Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 01:54:08 GMT Subject: [Mgs] stromberg tuning/repair? Message-ID: <20111231.205408.23385.0@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com> To get my 1975 Stromberg equipped MGB to pass emissions in Connecticut required carb and ignition settings that made the engine suffer so that it could barely power the car to the testing station. First thing I would recommend is to set the timing. It may be quite retarded as that is what we had to do. Retarded spark causes the engine to be powerless and to run hot. Remove a couple of spark plugs. Are they grey / hot looking? If they are, richen the mix, with a barely perceptible tun of the mixture screw. Check the book foi "in" or "out" as I forget now which richens the mixture. Also look carefully at the intake manifold to see if any rubber hoses or the line to the brake booster have blown off from backfiiring. Be of good cheer; it's much easier to get it running right again than to get it to pass emissions. Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Aubrey Schneider" To: "mg list" Subject: [Mgs] stromberg tuning/repair? Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2011 12:22:06 -0800 Hi all, I have been lurking on & off for a while, observing the concern about traffic. Maybe this will help. I need to do a complete retuning of my Stromberg. From the height of the butterfly ( don't know what else to call ) to timing & finally the setting of the carb. As age overtakes me, I'm not able to follow the manual. Here is the problem. A "well versed garage" took it upon them selves, at my request to get the 75 B thru'Aircare. (smog control) they got it passed but when attempting to bring back the performance side, they gave me back a B that misses constantly, has no power up hills & overheats ( steam billowing from the rad), doesn't start for a long time while cranking. Oil in the dash pot always. Is there someone out there who would be prepared to help me set this carb up for both performance & reasonable fuel consumption. I live in North Vancouver BC Canada so any local help would really be appreciated. Best wishes & a healthy New Year. ps.I have a timing light etc. Aubrey 75 BE _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob at juno.com