From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 02:01:27 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:01:27 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MG6 Review References: <20411.5369c956.3ac0a6d4@aol.com> Message-ID: <416BB0A048DC49C1BA1BEA4EEDCAC9D0@paul> Quite. But the more encouragement you give to idiots the more idiotic they will be. A UK road safety organisation estimates a quarter of all accidents are caused by driver distraction, and sat navs are as distracting a hand-held mobiles. The irony is that they are probably referred to most when in built-up areas with pedestrians, cyclists and traffic coming at you from all directions, precisely when you need greatest attention on what is going on outside the car. ----- Original Message ----- Complaining about GPS/Sat Nav just seems silly. It's a tool, use it wrong and it'll be an issue. There are plenty of examples of dumb people getting lost in the wilderness because they can't read a map or use a compass. Shall we complain about that technology too? Don't blame the tool, blame the idiot using it. From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 02:07:31 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:07:31 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MG6 Review References: <964.10761a5c.3ac26c97@aol.com> <3167653F-6FED-44F0-AD6E-A9692B1F77D5@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: <8E514A875B7140449171E119BD220BF6@paul> Optional? Ban them! Again counter-productive, they make people think they can't be hurt and reduce the driving experience to the level of watching some reality TV show with all the attention that implies. ----- Original Message ----- > Should we also make seat belts, airbags, intrusion bars and crumple > zones optional as well...? From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 02:23:26 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:23:26 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] TDC at compression References: <97203D5A-461C-41B4-92E7-97DBFDB6402C@ghs.com.au> <000001cbee31$b44a7da0$1cdf78e0$@com> Message-ID: Take the plugs out and turn the engine with your thumb over No.1 plug hole. On the compression stroke your thumb will be lifted off the hole, when the piston is at the top of that stroke that is TDC for No.1 For the purposes of reconnecting the plug leads, that is. But if you mean accurate TDC for timing purposes you need a stop screwed into No.1 (or No. 4) plug hole, turn the engine one way until the piston just touches the stop and mark the pulley in line with the TDC pointer, then turn the engine the other way until the piston contacts the stop and mark again. Timing TDC is between the two marks. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Any help in determining when no 1 is at TDC for ignition timing? From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 1 02:32:30 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 10:32:30 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Electrical question References: Message-ID: An internal short in the battery wouldn't have damaged the cable, except perhaps right by the battery. It would also be a huge coincidence if the battery chose the exact moment of making the connections to fail - albeit possible. I can't see a 'simple' reversal doing that either - it would cook the alternator and the smaller gauge wires feeding it, but I'd expect the current to be too low to cook the main earth cable which after all carries starter current without damage. Sounds to me like *both* battery terminals got connected to the chassis somehow. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > He charged the battery and replaced with a resultant huge cloud of smoke > and burning smell. The lead between the alternator and chassis was toast > (it may have been the starter - he is not too observant!). Someone said > it was because he reversed the polarity (hmmmm!) but the shop said the > battery plates had collapsed and shorted out. To me neither sounds > right. Anybody got an insightful suggestion From david_breneman at yahoo.com Fri Apr 1 08:42:17 2011 From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman) Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:42:17 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] WHERE was................... In-Reply-To: <4D9544F8.2060701@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <598334.78015.qm@web112103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Thu, 3/31/11, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > cNet 'reported' these "cars" are the "funniest ever" and > page IS titled "LOL" !!! A couple, maybe ?!? The bar for "LOL" certainly has dropped a lot since the 80s. From shop at justbrits.com Fri Apr 1 18:13:15 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Fri, 01 Apr 2011 20:13:15 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] WHERE was................... In-Reply-To: <598334.78015.qm@web112103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <598334.78015.qm@web112103.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4D96782B.5050004@justbrits.com> << The bar for "LOL" certainly has dropped a lot since the 80s. >> GOSPEL David, GOSPEL !! From barrie at look.ca Tue Apr 5 11:28:24 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 13:28:24 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] [Mgb-v8] Electrical question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: My many thanks for your responses to my question on the Saab burn up. My buddy is now mulling over the numerous very informative replies. Incidental, if anyone is contemplating cleaning bits and pieces using a "rock" tumbler - give me a buzz, I have had great success using this method. At 04:46 PM 3/30/2011, Keith Grider wrote: >It may well have been put in reversed. The alternator on older saabs >(c900) is grounded to the block by a small 10GA wire. If you put the >battery in reversed, you may fry this short cable. A n internally >shorted battery should do nothing good or bad, I would think. > >KeithG > >On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Barrie Robinson ><barrie at look.ca> wrote: >Hello folks at world, > >A sort of friend of mine found his battery was flat in his.......now >wait for it......Saab! But this is an electrical question not a >Saab/MG/Brit car question. > >He charged the battery and replaced with a resultant huge cloud of >smoke and burning smell. The lead between the alternator and >chassis was toast (it may have been the starter - he is not too >observant!). Someone said it was because he reversed the polarity >(hmmmm!) but the shop said the battery plates had collapsed and >shorted out. To me neither sounds right. Anybody got an >insightful suggestion > >Regards > >Barrie >barrie at look.ca >(705) 721-9060 >_______________________________________________ > >Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $11.47 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: >http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgb-v8/keith.grider at gmail.com > Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705--721-9060 From strovato at optonline.net Tue Apr 5 12:43:40 2011 From: strovato at optonline.net (Steven Trovato) Date: Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:43:40 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> I have a CD with "Restoring & Maintaining an MGA" handwritten on it. I got this from someone on one of the lists or forums a few years ago. The disk is unreadable. Does anyone remember who was distributing these, or what is on it? Thanks. -Steve Trovato strovato at optonline.net From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 14:31:36 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 13:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA In-Reply-To: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <254015.88617.qm@web39422.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'll take a wild guess and say that it has information on how to restore and maintain an MGA? ;-) Dan D Central NJ USA '76 MGB Tourer '65 MGB Tourer (Project) NAMGBR #5-2328 http://dans65b.blogspot.com/ http://dans76b.blogspot.com/ http://dansautoblog.blogspot.com/ http://dans-life-blog.blogspot.com/ twitter: dandibiase ________________________________ From: Steven Trovato To: mgs at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, April 5, 2011 2:43:40 PM Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA I have a CD with "Restoring & Maintaining an MGA" handwritten on it. I got this from someone on one of the lists or forums a few years ago. The disk is unreadable. Does anyone remember who was distributing these, or what is on it? Thanks. -Steve Trovato strovato at optonline.net _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From david_breneman at yahoo.com Tue Apr 5 21:36:43 2011 From: david_breneman at yahoo.com (David Breneman) Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 20:36:43 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA In-Reply-To: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <818840.37115.qm@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> --- On Tue, 4/5/11, Steven Trovato wrote: > I have a CD with "Restoring & > Maintaining an MGA" handwritten on it. I got this from > someone on one of the lists or forums a few years ago. > The disk is unreadable. Does anyone remember who was > distributing these, or what is on it? Where did you get it? (Geographically.) From strovato at optonline.net Tue Apr 5 22:24:37 2011 From: strovato at optonline.net (Steven Trovato) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 00:24:37 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA In-Reply-To: <818840.37115.qm@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> <818840.37115.qm@web112104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <0LJ700G78QXT69V0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Well, that's kind of like when you lose something and someone asks you where did you see it last? I am in New York, but I believe it was mailed. Someone put together their collection of notes or photos or whatever and mailed them out to people. I was hoping perhaps someone else got this or remembers the online discussion. It was definitely through one of the MG mailing lists or forums that this happened. -Steve At 11:36 PM 4/5/2011, David Breneman wrote: >Where did you get it? (Geographically.) From strovato at optonline.net Wed Apr 6 19:47:19 2011 From: strovato at optonline.net (Steven Trovato) Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2011 21:47:19 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] CD: Restoring and Maintaining an MGA In-Reply-To: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> References: <0LJ700B00038GXD0@mta6.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Message-ID: <0LJ900FZHEBNSZX0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> Just in case this has been keeping anyone up at night, the mystery has been solved. The CD's were distributed by members of the Enthusiasts BBS, back in 2003. The CD was the work of Bob Welch, aka "Bob from England." -Steve At 02:43 PM 4/5/2011, Steven Trovato wrote: >I have a CD with "Restoring & Maintaining an MGA" handwritten on >it. I got this from someone on one of the lists or forums a few >years ago. The disk is unreadable. Does anyone remember who was >distributing these, or what is on it? Thanks. From enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk Thu Apr 7 04:51:29 2011 From: enquiries at classic-car-world.co.uk (Tom McCay - CCW-Tools) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 11:51:29 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1600 Mk1 Floorboard Rails Message-ID: <713FD75986344D87983926FF306FEDD3@TomVistaPC> Hi, does anyone have a set of patterns for the floorboard rails on an MGA 1600 Mk1 including captive nut placement please. I'm just about to start a restoration on the frame and I'm looking to replace all of the rails. Many thanks Tom 1960 MGA 1600 1965 AH3000 MkIII BJ8 1985 Mini Park Lane From mg_garage at comcast.net Thu Apr 7 05:24:16 2011 From: mg_garage at comcast.net (gordies garage) Date: Thu, 7 Apr 2011 07:24:16 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1600 Mk1 Floorboard Rails In-Reply-To: <713FD75986344D87983926FF306FEDD3@TomVistaPC> References: <713FD75986344D87983926FF306FEDD3@TomVistaPC> Message-ID: I'd check with Todd Clarke...http://www.clarkespares.com/ Gordie -------------------------------------------------- From: "Tom McCay - CCW-Tools" Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2011 6:51 AM To: "MG List" Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1600 Mk1 Floorboard Rails > Hi, does anyone have a set of patterns for the floorboard rails on an MGA > 1600 > Mk1 including captive nut placement please. > > I'm just about to start a restoration on the frame and I'm looking to > replace > all of the rails. > > Many thanks > > Tom > > 1960 MGA 1600 > 1965 AH3000 MkIII BJ8 > 1985 Mini Park Lane > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mg_garage at comcast.net From thgun at comporium.net Fri Apr 8 18:40:10 2011 From: thgun at comporium.net (Tom Gunderson) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 20:40:10 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MGA Battery cover screws Message-ID: I am having a hard time getting these screws to stay locked down. Can I get replacement screws? Sent from my iPad From barneymg at mgaguru.com Fri Apr 8 19:15:20 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2011 20:15:20 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] MGA Battery cover screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <913803.81232.qm@smtp104.sbc.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> These are "Dzus" brand 1/4-turn fasteners. See here: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/interior/int101c.htm If you follow the links you can find the dimensions of these parts, and maybe some suppliers. Moss Motors sells these bits (if you can stand the sticker shock): http://mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=29236 At 08:40 PM 4/8/2011 -0400, Tom Gunderson wrote: >I am having a hard time getting these screws to stay locked down. Can I get >replacement screws? From geoff at 1956mga.com Fri Apr 8 19:17:53 2011 From: geoff at 1956mga.com (Geoff) Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2011 18:17:53 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGA Battery cover screws In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You might try this: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/interior/int101c.htm Geoff On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:40 PM, Tom Gunderson wrote: > I am having a hard time getting these screws to stay locked down. Can I get > replacement screws? > > Sent from my iPad > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/geoff at 1956mga.com From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Sat Apr 9 10:08:24 2011 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 18:08:24 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash Message-ID: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> Dear list, Now the season has started, I took the GT for a ride today. Weather is great - around 14 deg C and full sun. No I became aware of a light rattle in the dash, which I recken to derive from the speedometer. The rattle starts to occur above 30 mph and then stays on till standstill. The frequency of the rattle is about 5 rattles on - pause - 5 rattles down. The cable has been replaced less then 10,000 miles ago, though the time from replacement is about 15 years. So I took the instrument apart from the dash. I tested the 90 deg right angle gear and that seems not to show any play in the gears. So it seems, that the speedo is the most suspect. Are there any guidelines for troubleshooting a speedo? My regular parts supplier suggested to try to apply some light oil in order to make the old instrument moving better. So what are your opinions? It concerns a Feb 1971 make MGB GT - Calif specs. Without overdrive. Thanks in advance. Cheers, Hans Duinhoven From richard.ewald at gmail.com Sat Apr 9 10:44:17 2011 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2011 09:44:17 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash In-Reply-To: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: I would expect a speedometer based rattle to vary in frequency with the speed of the car. Unless it is a case of a loose mounting. Have you driven the car with the speedo out? Is the rattle still there? Rick On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Hans Duinhoven wrote: > Dear list, > > Now the season has started, I took the GT for a ride today. > Weather is great - around 14 deg C and full sun. > No I became aware of a light rattle in the dash, which I recken to derive > from the speedometer. > The rattle starts to occur above 30 mph and then stays on till standstill. > The frequency of the rattle is about 5 rattles on - pause - 5 rattles down. > The cable has been replaced less then 10,000 miles ago, though the time > from replacement is about 15 years. > > So I took the instrument apart from the dash. > I tested the 90 deg right angle gear and that seems not to show any play in > the gears. > So it seems, that the speedo is the most suspect. > Are there any guidelines for troubleshooting a speedo? > My regular parts supplier suggested to try to apply some light oil in order > to make the old instrument moving better. > > So what are your opinions? > It concerns a Feb 1971 make MGB GT - Calif specs. > Without overdrive. > > Thanks in advance. > > Cheers, > > Hans Duinhoven > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald at gmail.com From shop at justbrits.com Sat Apr 9 13:04:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Sat, 09 Apr 2011 14:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash In-Reply-To: References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: <4DA0ADCE.3040301@justbrits.com> << I would expect a speedometer based rattle to vary in frequency with the speed of the car. >> I agree with Rick, Hans. But that is NOT what you seem to be saying, correct?? << Unless it is a case of a loose mounting. >> That's what I think. OR something quite "close" to the speedo, i.e. another gauge !!! << Have you driven the car with the speedo out? Is the rattle still there? >> With the speedo OUT, you should be able to put your hand IN thru the hole and see if you can "feel" something - might even just be a stronger "vibration" which could "point" closer to the culprit !! Ed Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com PS: Hans, I don't have PICS of your car !?!? Plz drop me a note DIRECT about this "omission" !!!! Tsk, tsk on ME !!!! From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Sun Apr 10 03:41:22 2011 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:41:22 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> <4DA0ADCE.3040301@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Thanks Rick & Ed, I'll be more precize about the rattle. The rattle frequency goes up with the car's speed. That's why I suspect the speedo and 90 deg. drive. So I took out the speedo and separated the 90 deg. drive. It seems that the latter is ok by hand drive, though my hand is not fast enough to compare with the car on speeds above 20 Mph. (I use a motor drive screwdriver with a bit to get some speed). With the 90deg drive still mounted the rattle did not occur (yet) as the speed did not get higher than 20 mph. It surely is not a rattle caused by a vibration of the car as it goes up in rattle frequency with the car's speed. Rattle starts to occur at speeds over 30 Mph and higher and then stay on even on lower speeds. So my intention is to drive the GT today and connect the 90 deg. drive to the speedo cable without the speedo connected and apply a light torque friction to the output drive of the 90 deg. drive. Cheers from sunny Holland Hans P.S.1 I discovered a lose hose which should be connected to screen vent, so this job delivered one good result anyway P.S. 2 For Rick - if you like I can send you a pic of the GT as well ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" To: Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:04 PM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rattle in dash > << I would expect a speedometer based rattle to vary in frequency > with the speed of the car. >> > > I agree with Rick, Hans. But that is NOT what you seem to be saying, > correct?? > > << Unless it is a case of a loose mounting. >> > > That's what I think. OR something quite "close" to the speedo, i.e. > another gauge !!! > > << Have you driven the car with the speedo out? Is the rattle still > there? >> > > With the speedo OUT, you should be able to put your hand IN thru the hole > and see if you can "feel" something - might even just be a stronger > "vibration" > which could "point" closer to the culprit !! > > Ed > Please visit MY site at: www.justbrits.com > > PS: Hans, I don't have PICS of your car !?!? Plz drop me a note DIRECT > about this "omission" !!!! Tsk, tsk on ME !!!! From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Sun Apr 10 09:48:40 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 15:48:40 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] MG establishment in Salem, Oregon, USA Message-ID: My son called yesterday to tell me about a place he spotted when driving through Salem, Oregon (NW USA) yesterday. He described what may have once been an old gas station that now housed a number of MGs in front, in the back, and inside. He also mentioned several WW axles there as well. There were no signs to indicate a business name. He said we could check it out when I make my next 900 mile journey to Oregon in a month. I was still a bit curious so I did a google search and did find one reference, a bit sketchy, on the MG Experience website about what is likely the place: http://www.mgexperience.net/phorum/read.php?1,1503356,1503846 Certainly with a number of listers in the area, this place cannot be this much of a mystery, can it? Can anyone tell me more? David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B From wbmcleod at gmail.com Sun Apr 10 13:22:16 2011 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:22:16 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGA 1622 Message-ID: <4DA20368.8000207@gmail.com> /Pc7S9C: Permission denied From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Apr 11 01:47:15 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 08:47:15 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: Ordinarily I'd expect the needle to show visible fluttering if it were in the cable or speedo input shaft. With the stop-start it could be the odometer gears 'creaking' when in a certain part of their revolution, which would show itself as being in time with certain digits being visible. Seeing if the noise is still there with the speedo disconnected would indicate whether it were the speedo or not, although it could also indicate a cable problem but just not doing it when the 'load' of the speedo is removed from it. 15 years could be a dry cable, one would hope one was past the 'infant mortality' that so often afflicts replacement parts these days after 10k. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > The rattle starts to occur above 30 mph and then stays on till standstill. > The frequency of the rattle is about 5 rattles on - pause - 5 rattles > down. From wbmcleod at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 10:21:27 2011 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:21:27 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Further info, 1622 MGA Message-ID: <4DA32A87.5030105@gmail.com> From mark at bradakis.com Mon Apr 11 10:56:44 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:56:44 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary Message-ID: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: It was 20 years ago today Sargent Pepper taught the band to play Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. The autocross and british car lists were already up and running for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've been doing this for so many years. Happy anniversary, folks! mjb. From 71mgbgt at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 11:09:15 2011 From: 71mgbgt at gmail.com (Henri Lefebvre) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 11:09:15 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] QH brand fuel pumps Message-ID: Does anyone have experience, or opinions, on the QH brand fuel pumps for MGB's (and other MG's), as compared to the new SU fuel pump? I believe that the QH is manufactured in Germany. Thank you, Henri 71 MGB GT Calgary, Alberta From ptrmgb at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 11:44:51 2011 From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 12:44:51 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> Wow, that's cool. I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. Paul. On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to > The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: > > It was 20 years ago today > Sargent Pepper taught the band to play > > > Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. > The autocross and british car lists were already up and running > for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own > domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've > been doing this for so many years. > > Happy anniversary, folks! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com From qualitas.jack at gmail.com Mon Apr 11 15:49:15 2011 From: qualitas.jack at gmail.com (Jack Feldman) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:49:15 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary Message-ID: The first year I put my BGT in storage after wanting one for many years, I turned to the list for solace. If It wasn't for the list it would have been a hard winter indeed. Thank you , Mark for preserving my sanity that year, and for the help, humor, knowledge, and email friends I have gotten over the years because of you! It hs been a great 16 years on the list. Jack 60 Healey Bt7 69 MGC 72 BGT From barrie at look.ca Mon Apr 11 16:12:23 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 18:12:23 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> <89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: Paul, Paul, Paul, My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no regrets...................after 47 years ! At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >Wow, that's cool. > >I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. > >Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. > >Paul. > >On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > > > I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to > > The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: > > > > It was 20 years ago today > > Sargent Pepper taught the band to play > > > > > > Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. > > The autocross and british car lists were already up and running > > for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own > > domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've > > been doing this for so many years. > > > > Happy anniversary, folks! > > > > mjb. > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ptrmgb at gmail.com >_______________________________________________ > >Mgs at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Suggested annual donation $12.75 >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/barrie at look.ca Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca (705) 721-9060 From saidel at camden.rutgers.edu Mon Apr 11 19:11:59 2011 From: saidel at camden.rutgers.edu (saidel at camden.rutgers.edu) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:11:59 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> <89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> Since we're throwing numbers around ...and Barrie, I am impressed. My SO and I (and I have no idea how she puts up with me) are up to ... 36 years. Who knew? Congrads to all of us! Mark, not being a car guy when I used to have deep brown hair and a handsome torso, the list has saved me more times than I can count. Thank you. Best wishes to you all, Bill Saidel NJ Quoting Barrie Robinson : > Paul, Paul, Paul, > > My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no > regrets...................after 47 years ! > > > > > At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >> Wow, that's cool. >> >> I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. >> >> Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. >> >> Paul. >> >> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to >>> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: >>> >>> It was 20 years ago today >>> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play >>> >>> >>> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. >>> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running >>> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own >>> domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've >>> been doing this for so many years. >>> >>> Happy anniversary, folks! >>> >>> mjb. From dave at ranteer.com Mon Apr 11 20:08:02 2011 From: dave at ranteer.com (Dave) Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 21:08:02 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com><89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> Message-ID: <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> ?I'm almost embarrassed around you guys - we'll hit 25 years in a week. -----Original Message----- From: saidel at camden.rutgers.edu Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:11 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary Since we're throwing numbers around ...and Barrie, I am impressed. My SO and I (and I have no idea how she puts up with me) are up to ... 36 years. Who knew? Congrads to all of us! Mark, not being a car guy when I used to have deep brown hair and a handsome torso, the list has saved me more times than I can count. Thank you. Best wishes to you all, Bill Saidel NJ Quoting Barrie Robinson : > Paul, Paul, Paul, > > My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no > regrets...................after 47 years ! > > > > > At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >> Wow, that's cool. >> >> I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. >> >> Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. >> >> Paul. >> >> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to >>> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: >>> >>> It was 20 years ago today >>> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play >>> >>> >>> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. >>> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running >>> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own >>> domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've >>> been doing this for so many years. >>> >>> Happy anniversary, folks! >>> >>> mjb. From pat at pathand.net Mon Apr 11 21:32:51 2011 From: pat at pathand.net (Pat. Hand) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 13:32:51 +1000 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com><89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <018701cbf8c2$4eb3a110$ec1ae330$@net> Another almost 47 years Pat 49 MG YT 71 MGB 76 Mini 1950 A40 Pick up -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Tuesday, 12 April 2011 12:08 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary ?I'm almost embarrassed around you guys - we'll hit 25 years in a week. -----Original Message----- From: saidel at camden.rutgers.edu Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:11 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary Since we're throwing numbers around ...and Barrie, I am impressed. My SO and I (and I have no idea how she puts up with me) are up to ... 36 years. Who knew? Congrads to all of us! Mark, not being a car guy when I used to have deep brown hair and a handsome torso, the list has saved me more times than I can count. Thank you. Best wishes to you all, Bill Saidel NJ Quoting Barrie Robinson : > Paul, Paul, Paul, > > My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no > regrets...................after 47 years ! > > > > > At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >> Wow, that's cool. >> >> I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. >> >> Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. >> >> Paul. >> >> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to >>> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: >>> >>> It was 20 years ago today >>> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play >>> >>> >>> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. >>> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running >>> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own >>> domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've >>> been doing this for so many years. >>> >>> Happy anniversary, folks! >>> >>> mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/pat at pathand.net No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.894 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3562 - Release Date: 04/11/11 16:35:00 From wbmcleod at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 02:16:31 2011 From: wbmcleod at gmail.com (Bill McLeod) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:16:31 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Fwd: Further info, 1622 MGA Message-ID: <4DA40A5F.3080906@gmail.com> -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Further info, 1622 MGA Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 09:21:27 -0700 From: Bill McLeod To: mgs at autox.team.net The vin is GHNL 2106402. According to the Moss Catalog, its a MK2. Powder coated frame with body mounted, rebuilt engine which has run correctly a while ago, tran, new seals in rear end, rebuilt shocks, brakes, new paint on body (red). Wire wheel car. Have upholstery kit. Now perhaps someone has an idea of fair value, selling on ebay. Thanks, Bill From rolindsay at yahoo.com Tue Apr 12 12:19:47 2011 From: rolindsay at yahoo.com (Rick Lindsay) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 11:19:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] (no subject) Message-ID: <323011.94788.qm@web82306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://us-andeville.fr/super.z.php?SID=905 From richard.ewald at gmail.com Tue Apr 12 13:09:54 2011 From: richard.ewald at gmail.com (Richard Ewald) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 12:09:54 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] (no subject) In-Reply-To: <323011.94788.qm@web82306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <323011.94788.qm@web82306.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Looks like somebody's email got hacked. Rick On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 11:19 AM, Rick Lindsay wrote: > http://us-andeville.fr/super.z.php?SID=905 > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/richard.ewald at gmail.com From lmacy at phillymgclub.com Tue Apr 12 16:05:51 2011 From: lmacy at phillymgclub.com (Larry Macy) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:05:51 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Frank Clarici Message-ID: I have not been active on this list for a while. Too many things in my life. But I think it is important to notify the members of the MG list that a huge supporter of Little British Cars has passed away. I do not know how many of you knew Frank, but he was huge in the Spridget world. He always had a helping hand and together with me and a few other Spridgeteers created the OSHIT group. OSHIT which stands for Organization of Spridget Handymen In Transit, is a great example of Franks ability to inspire though his love of LBCs. We would hear about someone that needed some help on their car and we would travel around the NE US one weekends on our own dime to help that person get their car running. All we asked was food, beer and a place to throw a sleeping bag if we went overnight, and we often did. Frank headed up this merry band of trouble shooters and was always ready with a part or some advice on how to get our Spridgets running. He usually asked nothing in return, or sometimes asked that his favor be passed forward. He passed away yesterday of a heart attack doing something he loved. He had recently begun restoring old bicycles.he had a 1928 Elgin and 1930 something Schwinn.q he haas amassed about 6 he had in his garage. Being a carpenter (and more) by trade he was building a shed to house those new found treasures. His loss is a great loss to all who knew him and the the whole of the world of LBCs. Sadly, Larry -- Larry B. Macy, Ph.D. One of these days, you'll look back on all this, and plow into a parked car. From barrie at look.ca Tue Apr 12 16:12:01 2011 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:12:01 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Away on hols Message-ID: I know a few bodies said they were going to get some O-rings from me - but now I will be away on hols until 23rd April in Cuba - oh those cigars............. Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm www.britcot.com www.AMFClub.com From shop at justbrits.com Tue Apr 12 16:43:05 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 17:43:05 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Frank Clarici In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DA4D579.7070809@justbrits.com> From shop at justbrits.com Tue Apr 12 17:48:46 2011 From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ") Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 18:48:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] [Fwd: Re: Frank Clarici] Message-ID: <4DA4E4DE.8030100@justbrits.com> Sorry folks, accidentally sent as html = no-no !! -------- Original Message -------- << His loss is a great loss to all who knew him and the the whole of the world of LBCs. >> Larry is 100% 'right on'. Frank was a TRUE friend of mine & IS missed. Info may be found at www.justbrits.com !!!! Current it is NOT my site; it IS Frank's !!! R.I.P., Frank !! Ed Please visit Frank's site at" www.justbrits.com From Craig.Brownlee at oneok.com Wed Apr 13 10:48:32 2011 From: Craig.Brownlee at oneok.com (Brownlee, Craig) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 11:48:32 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com><89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <42E355E8FE651D47B1C9D89EC67BA6CD016E3AB90A@srvmailmbx1oke.oneok.com> Hmmm With my first wife I was married 18 years but with the wind chill it felt like 45! Does that count? Craig Craig A. Brownlee, PE Oklahoma Natural Gas Company Director of Operations - Eastern Region 918.606.4182 (cell) 918.831.8201 (office) 918.831.8213 (fax) 5848 E. 15th Street Tulsa, OK 74112 www.oklahomanaturalgas.com -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 9:08 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary ?I'm almost embarrassed around you guys - we'll hit 25 years in a week. -----Original Message----- From: saidel at camden.rutgers.edu Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:11 PM To: mgs at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary Since we're throwing numbers around ...and Barrie, I am impressed. My SO and I (and I have no idea how she puts up with me) are up to ... 36 years. Who knew? Congrads to all of us! Mark, not being a car guy when I used to have deep brown hair and a handsome torso, the list has saved me more times than I can count. Thank you. Best wishes to you all, Bill Saidel NJ Quoting Barrie Robinson : > Paul, Paul, Paul, > > My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no > regrets...................after 47 years ! > > > > > At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >> Wow, that's cool. >> >> I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. >> >> Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. >> >> Paul. >> >> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >> >>> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to >>> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: >>> >>> It was 20 years ago today >>> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play >>> >>> >>> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. >>> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running >>> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own >>> domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've >>> been doing this for so many years. >>> >>> Happy anniversary, folks! >>> >>> mjb. _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/craig.brownlee at oneok.com From paul at ece.rochester.edu Wed Apr 13 11:20:31 2011 From: paul at ece.rochester.edu (Paul Osborne) Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 13:20:31 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <42E355E8FE651D47B1C9D89EC67BA6CD016E3AB90A@srvmailmbx1oke.oneok.com> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com><89B29781-BD40-4771-90FD-7D9940ED80C4@gmail.com> <20110411211159.1pdihppuog80s0go@webmail.camden.rutgers.edu> <7DC95DDA901A4826924B2CB35B155499@ranteer.local> <42E355E8FE651D47B1C9D89EC67BA6CD016E3AB90A@srvmailmbx1oke.oneok.com> Message-ID: <424939C9-E32E-4D83-8D8D-CE6331038975@ece.rochester.edu> Going to 40 this year On Apr 13, 2011, at 12:48 PM, Brownlee, Craig wrote: > Hmmm With my first wife I was married 18 years but with the wind > chill it > felt like 45! Does that count? > > Craig > > > > > > Craig A. Brownlee, PE > Oklahoma Natural Gas Company > Director of Operations - Eastern Region > 918.606.4182 (cell) > 918.831.8201 (office) > 918.831.8213 (fax) > 5848 E. 15th Street > Tulsa, OK 74112 > www.oklahomanaturalgas.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] > On Behalf > Of Dave > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 9:08 PM > To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary > > ?I'm almost embarrassed around you guys - we'll hit 25 years in a > week. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: saidel at camden.rutgers.edu > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 8:11 PM > To: mgs at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Anniversary > > Since we're throwing numbers around ...and Barrie, I am impressed. My > SO and I (and I have no idea how she puts up with me) are up to ... 36 > years. Who knew? > Congrads to all of us! > > Mark, not being a car guy when I used to have deep brown hair and a > handsome torso, the list has saved me more times than I can count. > Thank you. > > > Best wishes to you all, > > Bill Saidel > NJ > > > Quoting Barrie Robinson : > >> Paul, Paul, Paul, >> >> My wife and I too celebrate our anniversary - and have no >> regrets...................after 47 years ! >> >> >> >> >> At 01:44 PM 4/11/2011, Paul Root wrote: >>> Wow, that's cool. >>> >>> I'm celebrating 19 years today with my wife. It's a good day. >>> >>> Keep up the great work, Mark. This list is indispensable. >>> >>> Paul. >>> >>> On Apr 11, 2011, at 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: >>> >>>> I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to >>>> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: >>>> >>>> It was 20 years ago today >>>> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play >>>> >>>> >>>> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. >>>> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running >>>> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own >>>> domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've >>>> been doing this for so many years. >>>> >>>> Happy anniversary, folks! >>>> >>>> mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/craig.brownlee at oneok.com > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/paul at ece.rochester.edu Paul Osborne Department of Electrical and Computer Eng University of Rochester 201 Hopeman Build RC Rochester NY 14627 585-275-5226 From ccrobins at ktc.com Thu Apr 14 10:07:46 2011 From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley & Peggy Robinson) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 11:07:46 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Anniversary In-Reply-To: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> References: <20110411165644.A07F82E077@bradakis.com> Message-ID: <4DA71BD2.6040305@ktc.com> Thanks for establishing and maintaining the list, Mark. It has been a great source of shared knowledge and comraderie for us all. Charley Robinson '69 B On 4/11/2011 11:56 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote: > I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to > The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts: > > It was 20 years ago today > Sargent Pepper taught the band to play > > > Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered. > The autocross and british car lists were already up and running > for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own > domain was a big step in a new direction. Hard to beleive I've > been doing this for so many years. > > Happy anniversary, folks! > > mjb. > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins at ktc.com From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Thu Apr 14 15:18:00 2011 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:18:00 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: <98FB4AD663954AAAA86E2A72E6972415@uw471de61b465c> Paul, Ed & Rick, I took the speedo out and left the 90 deg gear connected to the cable. Went for a drive and the square tip went spinning at a regular pace. No interrupts were noticed, even when I tried to put some friction on the square tip with my fingers. So the cable and 90 deg gear seems to be o.k. The gear makes some noise when going up to speed - not much though. Afterwards I conencted the speedo again, still outside the dash on the passenger seat. No rattle reappeared. The speedo speed indicator needle now was much more steady, so I suppose the cable was slightly bent before in the dash, causing friction and irregular rotations. But I still don't understand the rattle pace, which is much less than the rotational speed of the output tip of the 90 deg gear. Anyway next sunday the GT will be part in a charity rally tour http://www.xs4all.nl/~i2mp/linkedinclassic/html/deelnemers.html, so that will be a nice test. The speedo cable now has been rerouted into the dash with a long curve, in order to prevent any friction. I behaved well for the 10 miles drive I went this evening. Cheers, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" To: "Hans Duinhoven" ; Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 9:47 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rattle in dash > Ordinarily I'd expect the needle to show visible fluttering if it were in > the cable or speedo input shaft. With the stop-start it could be the > odometer gears 'creaking' when in a certain part of their revolution, > which would show itself as being in time with certain digits being > visible. Seeing if the noise is still there with the speedo disconnected > would indicate whether it were the speedo or not, although it could also > indicate a cable problem but just not doing it when the 'load' of the > speedo is removed from it. 15 years could be a dry cable, one would hope > one was past the 'infant mortality' that so often afflicts replacement > parts these days after 10k. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- >> The rattle starts to occur above 30 mph and then stays on till >> standstill. >> The frequency of the rattle is about 5 rattles on - pause - 5 rattles >> down. From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 15 02:00:39 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:00:39 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> <98FB4AD663954AAAA86E2A72E6972415@uw471de61b465c> Message-ID: <1B228C930F804414B9B2816613AB16BD@paul> Maybe it was the cable outer rattling against something nearby. ----- Original Message ----- > But I still don't understand the rattle pace, which is much less than the > rotational speed of the output tip of the 90 deg gear. From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Fri Apr 15 02:45:07 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 09:45:07 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] QH brand fuel pumps References: Message-ID: <373DF7EA9CC84912BAF1A7B0670FEB9E@paul> QH was originally a British company, currently owned by what looks like a German company. Where the pumps are actually made is another matter. QH also make clutches, but from what I've read the general advice is to steer clear of them and go for Borg & Beck instead. Having said that the QH pumps are a direct replacement for the SU but quite a bit cheaper it seems, and metal-bodied which is much better than the plastic-bodied Moprod type which are another direct replacement. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > Does anyone have experience, or opinions, on the QH brand fuel pumps > for MGB's (and other MG's), as compared to the new SU fuel pump? > I believe that the QH is manufactured in Germany. From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Fri Apr 15 08:07:03 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:07:03 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash In-Reply-To: <1B228C930F804414B9B2816613AB16BD@paul> References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c> <98FB4AD663954AAAA86E2A72E6972415@uw471de61b465c> <1B228C930F804414B9B2816613AB16BD@paul> Message-ID: I have or had a similar problem perhaps on my 64B with the mechanical tach. When I starting making the car roadworthy, I noticed the PO had disconnected the tach cable at some point in the past. I hooked it back up only to find that there was a fairly loud rattle in or near the tach when the engine was running. So I dug through my old parts, located another mechanical tach of unknown origins/history, and put it in. The rattle went away for the next drive or two but then came back. So I recently replaced the cable and I think that fixed the problem, subject to some more driving to see if that fixes it. The 64B is still in the early phases of getting back on the road after being permanently parked in the PO's garage for about 25 years. David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:01 AM To: Hans Duinhoven; mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rattle in dash Maybe it was the cable outer rattling against something nearby. ----- Original Message ----- > But I still don't understand the rattle pace, which is much less than the > rotational speed of the output tip of the 90 deg gear. From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Fri Apr 15 10:19:36 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:19:36 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Battery question Message-ID: No, not the usual question. The battery has gone dead in my land Rover Discovery (happens maybe once a month). The cause is likely a computer fault related to converting from air bag shocks to coil springs but I digress. I was going to get a spare battery and I normally get Sears Diehards. They say all they have is the $200 DieHard platinum which is apparently a gell cell Optima type. Are these batteries worth paying more than double over the old style lead acid batteries? They have more CCA but then previous batteries in my LR have never had cold weather problems, except for the sporadic times when the battery goes dead and usually fast - yesterday, it was deader than a door knob in less than 10 hours. 24 David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B From ccrobins at ktc.com Fri Apr 15 13:08:23 2011 From: ccrobins at ktc.com (Charley & Peggy Robinson) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 14:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Battery question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4DA897A7.7070400@ktc.com> I wouldn't spend a bundle on a battery if I had an intermittent short in the car. :-( CR On 4/15/2011 11:19 AM, Councill, David wrote: > No, not the usual question. > > The battery has gone dead in my land Rover Discovery (happens maybe once a > month). The cause is likely a computer fault related to converting from air > bag shocks to coil springs but I digress. I was going to get a spare battery > and I normally get Sears Diehards. They say all they have is the $200 DieHard > platinum which is apparently a gell cell Optima type. Are these batteries > worth paying more than double over the old style lead acid batteries? They > have more CCA but then previous batteries in my LR have never had cold weather > problems, except for the sporadic times when the battery goes dead and usually > fast - yesterday, it was deader than a door knob in less than 10 hours. > > 24 > > David Councill > 64 B > 67 BGT > 72 B > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins at ktc.com From mgbob at juno.com Fri Apr 15 14:49:29 2011 From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:49:29 GMT Subject: [Mgs] Battery question Message-ID: <20110415.164929.8959.4@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Hi Dave, Is that a Group 24 battery? Consumers Reports, May 2011 issue, has ratings of Groups 65, 34/78 & 78, 24/24F, 35 and 75.Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Councill, David" To: "mgs at Autox.Team.Net" Subject: [Mgs] Battery question Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 16:19:36 +0000 No, not the usual question. The battery has gone dead in my land Rover Discovery (happens maybe once a month). The cause is likely a computer fault related to converting from air bag shocks to coil springs but I digress. I was going to get a spare battery and I normally get Sears Diehards. They say all they have is the $200 DieHard platinum which is apparently a gell cell Optima type. Are these batteries worth paying more than double over the old style lead acid batteries? They have more CCA but then previous batteries in my LR have never had cold weather problems, except for the sporadic times when the battery goes dead and usually fast - yesterday, it was deader than a door knob in less than 10 hours. 24 David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/mgbob at juno.com From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Fri Apr 15 18:03:12 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 00:03:12 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Battery question In-Reply-To: <4DA897A7.7070400@ktc.com> References: <4DA897A7.7070400@ktc.com> Message-ID: No, this was my old school "Boy Scout" method of being prepared by carrying a spare battery. Maybe I wasn't explicit enough. But now for the rest of today's story.... I have been unable to find anyone locally to work on my Land Rover, meaning I remain the mechanic. My short is likely a computer problem which I am going to have fixed in a trip to Oregon in a few weeks. Just need to keep the car running until then plus make the 900 mile trip in it. So I called this outfit, Columbia Rover, to set up a time to fix it and I asked him about the $200 Diehard battery. He said no, what I need is a "jump box". A little research on the Internet and I found a couple of prospective portable jump starters. Got the $60 Diehard - it had to be charged first for an hour, took it to the car, hooked it up and it started the car right up. Well, like I said, I am my own mechanic, even with the Land Rover, and I don't get out much. I'm sure these cool, small profile portable jump starters have been around for awhile but I've never had the need since I have decent battery chargers at home (not portable, 120 v). Still, this is one cool device. Now I can get back to the rear axle project on my 67BGT tomorrow, my first thrust washer job. I'm part way in and so far it has been pretty decent. But then, I am about ready to pull the axle shaft out a couple of inches next. David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B 74 Toyota Landcruiser 01 Land Rover Discovery -----Original Message----- From: Charley & Peggy Robinson [mailto:ccrobins at ktc.com] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 1:08 PM To: Councill, David Cc: mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Battery question I wouldn't spend a bundle on a battery if I had an intermittent short in the car. :-( CR On 4/15/2011 11:19 AM, Councill, David wrote: > No, not the usual question. > > The battery has gone dead in my land Rover Discovery (happens maybe once a > month). The cause is likely a computer fault related to converting from air > bag shocks to coil springs but I digress. I was going to get a spare battery > and I normally get Sears Diehards. They say all they have is the $200 DieHard > platinum which is apparently a gell cell Optima type. Are these batteries > worth paying more than double over the old style lead acid batteries? They > have more CCA but then previous batteries in my LR have never had cold weather > problems, except for the sporadic times when the battery goes dead and usually > fast - yesterday, it was deader than a door knob in less than 10 hours. > > 24 > > David Councill > 64 B > 67 BGT > 72 B > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/ccrobins at ktc.com From bobmgtd at comcast.net Fri Apr 15 18:18:14 2011 From: bobmgtd at comcast.net (Bob Donahue) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 20:18:14 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Hastings Oil Filter LF196 for '71 MGB ? Message-ID: I see that the Hastings Oil Filter LF196 will fit a '71 MGB. But is it a good choice? (This is the inverted filter.) Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana From riverside at southslope.net Fri Apr 15 21:21:54 2011 From: riverside at southslope.net (riverside at southslope.net) Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2011 22:21:54 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Hastings Oil Filter LF196 for '71 MGB ? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <394293A42C664FFC9DFEA21EAFAF24B1@rileyPC> Hastings is a quality filter. The inverted filter should have an anti-drain back feature to prevent the oil draining out of the filter when the engine is not running. keeps the oil filter full. This is usually seen as a red rubber ring under the "phone dial" holes of the filter and acts as a one-way valve. Ron Sanborn -----Original Message----- From: Bob Donahue Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 7:18 PM To: mgs Subject: [Mgs] Hastings Oil Filter LF196 for '71 MGB ? I see that the Hastings Oil Filter LF196 will fit a '71 MGB. But is it a good choice? (This is the inverted filter.) Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/riverside at southslope.net From h.duinhoven at planet.nl Sat Apr 16 14:32:44 2011 From: h.duinhoven at planet.nl (Hans Duinhoven) Date: Sat, 16 Apr 2011 22:32:44 +0200 Subject: [Mgs] Rattle in dash References: <6FE89284A292498881952582B176B47A@uw471de61b465c><98FB4AD663954AAAA86E2A72E6972415@uw471de61b465c> <1B228C930F804414B9B2816613AB16BD@paul> Message-ID: <4AF560C590BF4E2A9CF9058E6BB842B9@uw471de61b465c> Thanks David, Tomorrow a 150 miles drive (kind of basic rally) will be the proof, if the fix is permanent. The last test drive was at lower temperatures. During the drive where the rattle started the temps were higher. Tomorrow higher temps are expected, so will be checked. Cheers, Hans ----- Original Message ----- From: "Councill, David" To: "Hans Duinhoven" ; Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 4:07 PM Subject: RE: [Mgs] Rattle in dash I have or had a similar problem perhaps on my 64B with the mechanical tach. When I starting making the car roadworthy, I noticed the PO had disconnected the tach cable at some point in the past. I hooked it back up only to find that there was a fairly loud rattle in or near the tach when the engine was running. So I dug through my old parts, located another mechanical tach of unknown origins/history, and put it in. The rattle went away for the next drive or two but then came back. So I recently replaced the cable and I think that fixed the problem, subject to some more driving to see if that fixes it. The 64B is still in the early phases of getting back on the road after being permanently parked in the PO's garage for about 25 years. David Councill 64 B 67 BGT 72 B -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Paul Hunt Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:01 AM To: Hans Duinhoven; mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Rattle in dash Maybe it was the cable outer rattling against something nearby. ----- Original Message ----- > But I still don't understand the rattle pace, which is much less than the > rotational speed of the output tip of the 90 deg gear. From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Sun Apr 17 12:54:44 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 18:54:44 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle Message-ID: I am partway into a rear axle thrust washer replacement. I am now at the stage of trying to pull out one of the half shafts. Seeing I had no tools for this operation, I went to my local purveyor of cheap Chinese Tools, Harbor Freight, and bought a $69 slide hammer. It looked like a nice tool with a decent steel case to hold it. I assembled it and hooked it up much like the one featured on Barney's site and my main guide for this operation: http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/photos/b_clunk/ After pounding on the slide hammer maybe 20 times with no sign of any movement on the half shaft, one of the arms (gear puller type legs) broke. So it looks like I will go back to HF and get a replacement. They claim a life time warranty on hand tools and this should be a hand tool. Is it normal to have difficulties getting the half shaft to move or a trick to it? Right now, I'll have another go with another HF tool. Maybe I should have bought a name brand tool from Sears for about $300 USD and I may go the route if I end up destroying a few more HF parts. David Councill 67 BGT 72 B 64 B From steve at coastaldatasystems.com Sun Apr 17 14:50:54 2011 From: steve at coastaldatasystems.com (Stephen West-Fisher) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 16:50:54 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <004801cbfd41$25325bf0$6f9713d0$@com> The rear bearing is a press fit. I can't visualize it now (it's been a long time) but you can space out the drive flange with something and use an impact wrench on the axle nut to pull the axle and bearing. -- Stephen West-Fisher N4IK -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Councill, David Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:55 PM To: mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle I am partway into a rear axle thrust washer replacement. I am now at the stage of trying to pull out one of the half shafts. From dcouncill at msubillings.edu Sun Apr 17 15:45:08 2011 From: dcouncill at msubillings.edu (Councill, David) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:45:08 +0000 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle In-Reply-To: <004801cbfd41$25325bf0$6f9713d0$@com> References: <004801cbfd41$25325bf0$6f9713d0$@com> Message-ID: I have progressed past this point. I was packaging up the slide hammer to return to HF but decided to give it a try again with the two arm puller using the 2 remaining arms. Several whacks and it popped out. I have pulled out the gears and washers. Problem is that there is a copper washer behind the differential gears, very close to the same size as the new fiber thrust washers. I see no reference or mention of this piece unless it is the same, just different material. Should I be using both or just the fiber one, moss part 267-140? David Councill 67 BGT -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Stephen West-Fisher Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:51 PM To: mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: Re: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle The rear bearing is a press fit. I can't visualize it now (it's been a long time) but you can space out the drive flange with something and use an impact wrench on the axle nut to pull the axle and bearing. -- Stephen West-Fisher N4IK -----Original Message----- From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Councill, David Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:55 PM To: mgs at Autox.Team.Net Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle I am partway into a rear axle thrust washer replacement. I am now at the stage of trying to pull out one of the half shafts. _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/dcouncill at msubillings.edu From barneymg at mgaguru.com Sun Apr 17 20:28:15 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2011 21:28:15 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle In-Reply-To: References: <004801cbfd41$25325bf0$6f9713d0$@com> Message-ID: <157876.94327.qm@smtp104.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> David, All MGA and early MGB with banjo type rear axle originally used all brass thrust washers in the dfferential. These are generally long lived, like 200,000+ miles. My MGA went 250,000 miles before I renewed these parts. Late model MGB, 1968 on and all MGB-GT with the Salsbury tube-type rear axle use brass for the spherical thrust washers and fiber for the larger flat side thrust washers. The fiber thrust washers are generally short lived, like maybe 50,000 miles to the point where they litterally dissolve and disapper. These are notorious for the clunk and need to be remewed periodically (too often). Some time ago Moss Motors (and maybe some other vendors) made the notoriously bone-headed decision to change the earlier brass side washers to fiber material for replaceemant parts. I suppose this reduces manufacturing cost, keeps retail price down (maybe), guarantees early failure, repeat sales, repeated high labor cost, and PO'd customers. 25% worn brass washers will last a lot longer in service than new fiber washers. Facing this circumstance I'd throw the fiber washers in the dust bin (or send them back) and reinstall the brass washers, as long as they are still serviceable. Meanwhile grovel and beg for a source for brass replacement thrust washers. On the flip side, if you're talking about a late model MGB, I think they always had fiber washers for the flat parts on the side gears. I'm surprised that you mention orginal brass parts there. Most often by the time the clunk gets bad enough to fix those fiber washers are simply gone, and sometimes no trace of them in the oil. Perhaps you assumed that those (missing) parts were supposed to be brass when they were always fiber. It is my humble opinion and best wishes to the MG community that the later fiber parts should have been changed to brass for replacement parts, and the earlier brass parts should have remained in brass and should never have been changed to fiber. I would gladly pay 2x or 3x the price for brass thrust washers if necessary in the interest of never having to change them again. Are you listening, Moss Motors? Barney Gaylord 1958 MGA with an attitude (and 387,000 miles) http://MGAguru.com At 09:45 PM 4/17/2011 +0000, Councill, David wrote: >I have progressed past this point. I was packaging up the slide hammer to >return to HF but decided to give it a try again with the two arm puller using >the 2 remaining arms. Several whacks and it popped out. > >I have pulled out the gears and washers. Problem is that there is a copper >washer behind the differential gears, very close to the same size as the new >fiber thrust washers. I see no reference or mention of this piece unless it >is the same, just different material. Should I be using both or just the fiber >one, moss part 267-140? >.... >-----Original Message----- >From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf >Of Stephen West-Fisher >Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:51 PM >To: mgs at Autox.Team.Net >Subject: Re: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle > >The rear bearing is a press fit. >I can't visualize it now (it's been a long time) but you can space out the >drive flange with something and use an impact wrench on the axle nut to pull >the axle and bearing. >.... >-----Original Message----- >From: mgs-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgs-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf >Of Councill, David >Sent: Sunday, April 17, 2011 2:55 PM >To: mgs at Autox.Team.Net >Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle > >I am partway into a rear axle thrust washer replacement. I am now at the stage >of trying to pull out one of the half shafts. From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Apr 18 02:00:37 2011 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 09:00:37 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle References: <004801cbfd41$25325bf0$6f9713d0$@com> Message-ID: <34934C3E3E634A98A695BA66136F8B75@paul> You should have two types of washer, the ones you mention and the 267-130 dished brass washers. The former going behind the gears on the half-shaft and the latter behind the gears on the pinion pin? It seems to be the case that it is the former that wear, often to nothing, but the latter don't http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/photos/b_clunk/. They should definitely be replaced or refitted. As far as pulling the half-shaft goes for the benefit of others probably the easiest way is to remove the hub and bearing cap, then refit the hub with spacers between it and the ears on the axle casing, and tighten the hub nut. Get the spacer thickness right so you can just get the nut started, and it should pull the half-shaft and bearing right out. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- > I have pulled out the gears and washers. Problem is that there is a copper > washer behind the differential gears, very close to the same size as the > new > fiber thrust washers. I see no reference or mention of this piece unless > it > is the same, just different material. Should I be using both or just the > fiber > one, moss part 267-140? From mark at bradakis.com Mon Apr 18 21:15:03 2011 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:15:03 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Mgs] Well, shucks Message-ID: <20110419031503.17D372E0C7@bradakis.com> That wasn't nice. Had a series of power bumps here at the house over the weekend that messed with my computers, like the main Team.Net server. That old Dell had been rock solid reliable, with an uptime of over 425 days. Oh well. Of course my computer troubles are nothing at all compared to the tornado havoc over the weekend. Hopefully no listers were seriously affected. I still remember what damage can be done by twisters from my years in the Midwest. When I did get the machines back up and running again a few things didn't quite work out, some software failed to start as it should. So you may have noticed no Team.Net email for a while. I was at work all day so I didn't notice until this evening. Sorry. We should be back in business now, though. Perhaps last week when I posted about 20 years of Team.Net I should have put in a pitch for some donations to acquire some newer, more stable hardware ( bigger UPS ) and some upgraded software. I certainly did recieve some donations, will hopefully get around to thanking folks in a day or two. So if you have a few bucks laying around and feel like helping to keep this Team.Net experiment around for another 20 years, feel free to visit http://www.team.net/donate.html - wait, I better update that file, the FAX machine is printing blank faxes, another bit of hardware I'll likely have to replace. Computers can be so much fun. Anyway, Team.Net email, forums and web pages should all be back to mostly normal, thank you for your patience. mjb. From g.schnittke at comcast.net Tue Apr 19 00:51:05 2011 From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke) Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 01:51:05 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle Message-ID: <4DAD30D9.3090908@comcast.net> > From: "Councill, David" > Subject: Re: [Mgs] Tale of the rear axle > To:"mgs at Autox.Team.Net" > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > I have progressed past this point. I was packaging up the slide hammer to > return to HF but decided to give it a try again with the two arm puller using > the 2 remaining arms. Several whacks and it popped out. etc. Rest deleted for brevity. Dave, The copper washers are spherical. The fiber washers are flat. When doing this job you want to replace both. If one's worn the other is as well. The flat fibers may very well have disappeared as they very nearly did in mine. The coppers are the actual thrust washers that need replaced and the fibers are kind of place-holders that serve a much lower abrasion thrust function. It's the spherical copper thrust washers that fit on the end of the planetary gears (what you're calling the differential gears) that, when worn, produce most of the clunk you're trying to fix. If you don't have both flat fiber and spherical copper, you might want to hold off putting anything back together again until you have both. It can be a little bit of a bear to get the coppers in but since you figured out dealing with the half axle, you shouldn't have any problem figuring out getting it all lined up. Curious, what are you using for a guide in this adventure? BTW, I went to HF for my slide hammer, too, and didn't have much problem getting the half axle out. I would say you just hit upon the problem with old cars - age. My joints get a little sticky on occasion, too. Glenn From bighealey at charter.net Sun Apr 24 05:47:14 2011 From: bighealey at charter.net (Tracy Drummond) Date: Sun, 24 Apr 2011 04:47:14 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Need a early MGA Water Pump (iron) Message-ID: <000001cc0275$61883f50$2498bdf0$@charter.net> I am looking for a rebuilt or NOS iron water pump for the 1622 Any one have a good iron cast water pump they are willing to part with? Warm Regards, Tracy Drummond PMP | ITIL Service Manager | CISSP | bighealey at charter.net | 408-394-3444 cell | 408-776-0133 home | http://www.linkedin.com/in/tracydrummond From 71mgbgt at gmail.com Mon Apr 25 07:24:27 2011 From: 71mgbgt at gmail.com (Henri Lefebvre) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 07:24:27 -0600 Subject: [Mgs] [...M...gs] QH brand fuel pumps In-Reply-To: <4DB423A8.4070200@justbrits.com> References: <4DB423A8.4070200@justbrits.com> Message-ID: Ed, I bought my MGB GT 5 years ago, the current fuel pump runs fine but I do not know how old it is. I am planning to drive to MG 2011 in June in Reno, over 3,000 miles round trip, and I thought I might buy a spare fuel pump for the trip, or replace it for peace of mind. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Does anyone have experience, or opinions, on the QH brand > fuel pumps for MGB's (and other MG's), as compared to the > new SU fuel pump? >>> > > Henri, I have not seen an answer; did you get one [or more] ?? > > Why would you even consider "breaking what ain't broke" ?? > > Ed From eric at erickson.on.net Mon Apr 25 07:28:31 2011 From: eric at erickson.on.net (Eric Erickson) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 22:58:31 +0930 Subject: [Mgs] Easter racing and competition In-Reply-To: <3A2055B2-D71C-4D1D-BB42-9754F5403077@tampabay.rr.com> References: <3A2055B2-D71C-4D1D-BB42-9754F5403077@tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: <12EEEB0C-CE22-43C3-AD53-C31200D2186A@erickson.on.net> Nothing massively artistic but a "few" snapshots of the Easter Historics - race meeting and hillclimb. Quiet a few MGs and a bunch of other cars! http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgracer/sets/72157626448999631 http://www.flickr.com/photos/mgracer/sets/72157626565883106 Enjoy From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Mon Apr 25 09:13:13 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 08:13:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] [...M...gs] QH brand fuel pumps In-Reply-To: References: <4DB423A8.4070200@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <874563.52537.qm@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> If you just want a spare 'just in case' I would consider picking up a generic cube electric pump. Small size can be carried easily, and they are very easy to install. Dan D Central NJ USA '76 MGB Tourer '65 MGB Tourer (Project) NAMGBR #5-2328 http://dans65b.blogspot.com/ http://dans76b.blogspot.com/ http://dansautoblog.blogspot.com/ http://dans-life-blog.blogspot.com/ twitter: dandibiase ________________________________ From: Henri Lefebvre <71mgbgt at gmail.com> To: mgs at autox.team.net Sent: Mon, April 25, 2011 9:24:27 AM Subject: Re: [Mgs] [...M...gs] QH brand fuel pumps Ed, I bought my MGB GT 5 years ago, the current fuel pump runs fine but I do not know how old it is. I am planning to drive to MG 2011 in June in Reno, over 3,000 miles round trip, and I thought I might buy a spare fuel pump for the trip, or replace it for peace of mind. On Sun, Apr 24, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Shop at " Just Brits " wrote: > << Does anyone have experience, or opinions, on the QH brand > fuel pumps for MGB's (and other MG's), as compared to the > new SU fuel pump? >>> > > Henri, I have not seen an answer; did you get one [or more] ?? > > Why would you even consider "breaking what ain't broke" ?? > > Ed _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From RANDELL_KEGG at msn.com Mon Apr 25 12:00:10 2011 From: RANDELL_KEGG at msn.com (RANDELL KEGG) Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2011 14:00:10 -0400 Subject: [Mgs] MG "Y" Type Half Shaft Needed In-Reply-To: <4DB423A8.4070200@justbrits.com> <874563.52537.qm@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <4DB423A8.4070200@justbrits.com> <874563.52537.qm@web39406.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Would anyone happen to have a spare half shaft for a MG YA or YT that they would be willing to sell? My understanding is that the only possible interchange would be a Morris 10, which is probably rarer than the "Y" type. Thanks, Randy Kegg Glen Arm, Maryland From sdesalvo at frontiernet.net Tue Apr 26 12:05:46 2011 From: sdesalvo at frontiernet.net (sdesalvo at frontiernet.net) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 18:05:46 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Mgs] spark plug color Message-ID: <1594616539.2142925.1303841146156.JavaMail.root@cl04-host02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Hi All, Cleaned the plugs on my '78 MGB and found cylinders 1, 2, and 3 with fluffy black coating. I conclude I have a "rich" condition. Cylinder 4 is light brown, no fluff. What would cause only one cylinder to be different from the other 3? Thanks in advance, Sam From lapierrem at sbcglobal.net Tue Apr 26 14:58:07 2011 From: lapierrem at sbcglobal.net (mark lapierre) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:58:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] Good Day Gents Message-ID: <329703.67550.qm@web180104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Hello Listers, I have just completed my forever Healey project and am now ready to embark on my long ago "barn find" 1600 MGA. I hope to enjoy reading about your hobbies and learning as much as possible about this car and hope to obtain much about the do's and don'ts of these cars. I plan to install a 1800 MGB engine and O/D transmission and expect a few interesting snafus that I may come up against down the road. I would y appreciate any information on a web sight that may have this eng./ trans. information available if someone knows of one. Someday I hope to post some of the "Barn Find" pictures in MGA magazine, but need to transfer the 35mm to this newer technology. Looking forward to spending some serious MG time on the list. Mark From don at napanet.net Tue Apr 26 15:05:08 2011 From: don at napanet.net (Don) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:05:08 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGB in Sports & Exotic magazine Message-ID: <20110426210519.58EFAAE719@mail.dsl.napanet.net> I just received the June issue of Hemming's Sports & Exotic Car. There is a red B GT on the cover, and many pages of the magazine devoted to the MGB. This is a great car magazine, and my 2nd favourite after Sports Car Market. And a subscription is not that expensive, unlike SCM. Don Scott Calistoga CA USA 1955 MGTF 1962 MGA Mk 2 1973 MGB GT (selling) 1963-7 MGB (seeking) Misc. Japanese cars From barneymg at mgaguru.com Tue Apr 26 16:28:38 2011 From: barneymg at mgaguru.com (Barney Gaylord) Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 17:28:38 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] spark plug color In-Reply-To: <1594616539.2142925.1303841146156.JavaMail.root@cl04-host02 .roch.ny.frontiernet.net> References: <1594616539.2142925.1303841146156.JavaMail.root@cl04-host02.roch.ny.frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <956914.27668.qm@smtp106.sbc.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Very rich on the front carb. Slightly lean on the rear carb. When properly balanced #2 & #3 run just slightly richer than #1 & #4 due to flow interference at the siamesed intake ports. Having the carb mixtures way out of whack will exagerate the difference between 1&2 or 3&4. At 06:05 PM 4/26/2011 +0000, Sam (sdesalvo at frontiernet.net) wrote: >.... >Cleaned the plugs on my '78 MGB and found cylinders 1, 2, and 3 with >fluffy black coating. I conclude I have a "rich" condition. Cylinder >4 is light brown, no fluff. What would cause only one cylinder to be >different from the other 3? >.... From d_dibiase at yahoo.com Wed Apr 27 14:34:23 2011 From: d_dibiase at yahoo.com (Dan DiBiase) Date: Wed, 27 Apr 2011 13:34:23 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mgs] Good Day Gents In-Reply-To: <329703.67550.qm@web180104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <329703.67550.qm@web180104.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <836086.87148.qm@web39421.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Hi, Mark, welcome to the list.... Is this your first MG? Dan D Central NJ USA '76 MGB Tourer '65 MGB Tourer (Project) NAMGBR #5-2328 http://dans65b.blogspot.com/ http://dans76b.blogspot.com/ http://dansautoblog.blogspot.com/ http://dans-life-blog.blogspot.com/ twitter: dandibiase ________________________________ From: mark lapierre To: mgs at autox.team.net Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 4:58:07 PM Subject: [Mgs] Good Day Gents Hello Listers, I have just completed my forever Healey project and am now ready to embark on my long ago "barn find" 1600 MGA. I hope to enjoy reading about your hobbies and learning as much as possible about this car and hope to obtain much about the do's and don'ts of these cars. I plan to install a 1800 MGB engine and O/D transmission and expect a few interesting snafus that I may come up against down the road. I would y appreciate any information on a web sight that may have this eng./ trans. information available if someone knows of one. Someday I hope to post some of the "Barn Find" pictures in MGA magazine, but need to transfer the 35mm to this newer technology. Looking forward to spending some serious MG time on the list. Mark _______________________________________________ Mgs at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $12.75 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/d_dibiase at yahoo.com From g.schnittke at comcast.net Thu Apr 28 20:06:13 2011 From: g.schnittke at comcast.net (Glenn Schnittke) Date: Thu, 28 Apr 2011 21:06:13 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] Good Day Gents Message-ID: <4DBA1D15.7090909@comcast.net> Welcome to the list, Mark. Where are you located? It's always good to know in forming a response, as many MG's were built to spec for the county they were being exported to or not. Glenn > From: mark lapierre > To:mgs at autox.team.net > Sent: Tue, April 26, 2011 4:58:07 PM > Subject: [Mgs] Good Day Gents > > Hello Listers, > I have just completed my forever Healey project and am now > ready to embark on my > long ago "barn find" > 1600 MGA. I hope to enjoy > reading about your hobbies and learning as much as > possible about this car > and hope to obtain much about the do's and don'ts of these cars. From d.mckinnie at usa.net Fri Apr 29 12:37:26 2011 From: d.mckinnie at usa.net (Douglas McKinnie) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:37:26 +0100 Subject: [Mgs] Paint care Message-ID: <955PDCsKA0160S01.1304102246@web01.cms.usa.net> I never did find a fuel-filter in my fuel system, so I've just been using gumout with every fill and hoping that fuel-starvation problem goes away. I've also switched to a filling-station that advertises "ethanol free" gas. Now I am concerned about the flat and faded look of my red paint. I've got a random-orbital polisher,but I've never bothered with waxing and polishing before. My understanding is that the car polish is to cut through and remove the oxidised layer, and then I need to wax the car to make it shiny and protect the newly-exposed paint. Am I on the right track? Douglas 70 MGB-GT Murfreesboro, TN From geoff at 1956mga.com Fri Apr 29 12:51:32 2011 From: geoff at 1956mga.com (Geoff) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:51:32 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Paint care In-Reply-To: <955PDCsKA0160S01.1304102246@web01.cms.usa.net> References: <955PDCsKA0160S01.1304102246@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: That's pretty much the right idea. I used Meguir's products, two rounds of polish, then two rounds of wax, on my faded MGA, with good results. There is more swirl that I'd like, which is a bummer, but I did it by hand. Some (not very good) before and after pictures are here: http://1956mga.com/2011/01/elbow-grease-polishing-the-paint/ Geoff On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 11:37 AM, Douglas McKinnie wrote: > I never did find a fuel-filter in my fuel system, so I've just been using > gumout with every fill and hoping that fuel-starvation problem goes away. > I've > also switched to a filling-station that advertises "ethanol free" gas. > > Now I am concerned about the flat and faded look of my red paint. I've got > a > random-orbital polisher,but I've never bothered with waxing and polishing > before. > > My understanding is that the car polish is to cut through and remove the > oxidised layer, and then I need to wax the car to make it shiny and protect > the newly-exposed paint. Am I on the right track? > > Douglas > 70 MGB-GT > Murfreesboro, TN > _______________________________________________ > > Mgs at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $12.75 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mgs/geoff at 1956mga.com From max_heim at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 29 12:42:28 2011 From: max_heim at sbcglobal.net (Max Heim) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:42:28 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Paint care In-Reply-To: <955PDCsKA0160S01.1304102246@web01.cms.usa.net> Message-ID: on 4/29/11 11:37 AM, Douglas McKinnie at d.mckinnie at usa.net wrote: > I never did find a fuel-filter in my fuel system, so I've just been using > gumout with every fill and hoping that fuel-starvation problem goes away. > I've > also switched to a filling-station that advertises "ethanol free" gas. Umm, why don't you just put a filter inline? > Now I am concerned about the flat and faded look of my red paint. I've got a > random-orbital polisher,but I've never bothered with waxing and polishing > before. > > My understanding is that the car polish is to cut through and remove the > oxidised layer, and then I need to wax the car to make it shiny and protect > the newly-exposed paint. Am I on the right track? I would think so. Reds can oxidize to the point they are beyond buffing, though. -- Max Heim '66 MGB GHN3L76149 If you're near Mountain View, CA, it's the primer red one with chrome wires > Douglas > 70 MGB-GT > Murfreesboro, TN From mgb72 at airmail.net Fri Apr 29 14:19:49 2011 From: mgb72 at airmail.net (Chad Cooper) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 13:19:49 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] OIL Filter Message-ID: <20110429131949.9EBBAEF4@resin15.mta.everyone.net> /rnjG7Z: Permission denied From mgb72 at airmail.net Fri Apr 29 16:12:43 2011 From: mgb72 at airmail.net (Chad) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:12:43 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] oil filter Message-ID: <003901cc06ba$902ca370$b085ea50$@net> The taller Wix oil filter for a B with an inverted filter(inlet of filter pointing down) is 51515 I spent about 15 minutes in O'reilly's trying to find it. Just thought I wouls share the info. From mgb72 at airmail.net Fri Apr 29 16:15:56 2011 From: mgb72 at airmail.net (Chad) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:15:56 -0500 Subject: [Mgs] [...M...gs] OIL Filter In-Reply-To: <4DBB2E2A.5070501@justbrits.com> References: <20110429131949.9EBBAEF4@resin15.mta.everyone.net> <4DBB2E2A.5070501@justbrits.com> Message-ID: <004501cc06bb$03748280$0a5d8780$@net> Yes Ed I am bad, I was at work and that is the only way to get to my personal email. I will go sit in the corner for thirty minutes. FWIW I was trying to ask what the number of the taller WIX oil filter was, while I was at work so I could go to the parts store on the way home. The answer is 51515 From: Shop at " Just Brits " [mailto:shop at justbrits.com] Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 4:31 PM To: Chad Cooper Subject: Re: [...M...gs] OIL Filter << /rnjG7Z: Permission denied >> Chad, you "Sent" in html and NOT the REQUIRED "plain text" !! BTDT !! Ed From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Fri Apr 29 21:44:25 2011 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 20:44:25 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] MGs through the ages Message-ID: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/picturegalleries/8448130/MG-cars-through-the-ages.html From simon.d.matthews at gmail.com Sat Apr 30 21:23:19 2011 From: simon.d.matthews at gmail.com (Simon Matthews) Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 20:23:19 -0700 Subject: [Mgs] Origin of speckled hen? Message-ID: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/8481095/Russia-and-Ukraine-squabble-over-fairytale-characters.html