Check this link: http://www.lotuselan.net/forums/elan-archive-f16/are-lotus-knockoff-backwards-t2864.html Charles Hill On 11/13/2010 8:04 AM, Barrie Robinson wrote: > > Charles, > > That seems to defy physics. I looked on lotuselan.net but could not > find the chat - Please can you tell me how to find it?