[Mgs] setting valves after head machining / 1500 MGA
Barney Gaylord
barneymg at mgaguru.com
Mon Jul 13 14:44:28 MDT 2009
At 11:03 AM 7/13/2009 -0400, Tom Gunderson (thgun at comporium.net) wrote:
>.... I purchased a redone head. Now a few of the valves are too
>tight to adjust. Can I use shims all the way across to raise the
>rocker assembly? If so where can I get them? Any other tips.
>....
The condition is not normal, so something is wrong there. Assuming
you have the right pushrods, either the head has been milled
substantially or the valve seats have been cut too deep into the head
so the valves are riding too high. It would be more convenient for
measurement and inspection if the head was off, but maybe some
investigation can be done without removing it.
Original head thickness was 3.187". How creative are you at
measuring the vertical distance from top to bottom of head in
situ? That dimension would tell you if the head was milled too much.
Next is to measure the height of the valve stems from top of head. I
just measured on my spare engine and found 1.600" plus or minus a
smidge from valve to valve. This one had new hard seats and new
valves installed not too many miles earlier, meaning the valves
should be very close to as-new height. There is plenty of rocker
adjustment from there, so I could believe that stem height of 1.625"
should be an easy accommodation for the adjusters. If your head has
the valve seats cut abnormally deep for clean up the stems would sit higher.
If head thickness and valve stem height are in the ballpark, then
maybe the pushrods are too long. If you re-used original pushrods
that should not be a problem. I suppose it would be very unusual for
anyone to ever mill the rocker pedestals to make the rocker shaft lower.
Moss Motors does sell the rocker pedestal shims, but they are not
originally intended for that purpose. Later engines had 0.010" shims
under #2 & #3 pedestals only to put a small bending preload on the
rocker shaft to keep the shaft from wiggling about in the pedestal
bores. None of my engines for decades have ever had these shims, and
I have never seen any detrimental effect from their absence. You can
could install some of these shims under the pedestals to open up the
rocker clearance, but it seems like treating the symptom rather than
curing the disease.
Barney Gaylord
1958 MGA with an attitude
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