From barrie at look.ca Mon May 3 14:37:00 2010 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 16:37:00 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] PCV for Rover 3.5 Message-ID: Someone here just got stomped on for $400 for not having a PCV on his old vehicle. So I am going to fit one to my 3.5L Rover V8. My rocker covers have the outlets at the back while my Edelbrock has the PCV inlet at the front. Anyone got any neat solutions for installation of a PCV and connecting up. The cover has a 1/2" hose size and the card is 3/8" - of course !!! Pictures would be nice. Thanks in advance for replies Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration From jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com Tue May 4 09:53:35 2010 From: jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com (James Bown) Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 09:53:35 -0600 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock In-Reply-To: <1272480636.14477.24.camel@kgrider-laptop> References: , <1272480636.14477.24.camel@kgrider-laptop> Message-ID: I have run both the Holley 390 and Edelbrock 500 on my 215 Buicks. I have also run both a Holley and Edelbrock (properly sized) on a Ford 351 in a boat. Also I have had Holleys and Edelbrocks (and lots of others carbs) on a variety of small block Chevs over the last 40 years. Both are good. How good depends on how much time is spent getting everything just right. I agree, that after everthing is fine tuned correctly, that the Holley has more topend power and the Edelbrock is better on the lowend. I've got timeslips showing better 60 foot times with the Edelbrocks but slightly faster ETs with the Holleys. To that end I tend to run Holleys on my race cars and sandrails, and Edelbrocks on my street stuff. It isn't a hard and fast rule though. Currently I have an Edelbrock on a modified 215 Buick in a sandrail. Here is the interesting thing: If I didn't know which brand carb was on an engine (assuming the carb was properly setup and tuned) I doubt I could tell by just driving the car. The important thing is: Spent the time (dyno time, road time, tuning time, etc) to get it setup right. If you don't have the time, or the skill, then you need to use the carb that your mechanic is most experienced with. Don't try to force your Holley mechanic to learn the Edelbrock on your dime! Besides, unless your a drag racer, does a difference of .05 seconds in your 0-60 foot time or .2 seconds in your 1000 foot time really matter? One thing for sure, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, the Holley 390 will run fairly OK on a Buick 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. The Edelbrock 500 WILL NOT RUN OK ON A BUICK 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. It needs different jets and rods!!! Regards, Jim Bown _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2 From barrie at look.ca Tue May 4 09:17:16 2010 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Tue, 04 May 2010 11:17:16 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] PCV for Rover 3.5 Message-ID: The problem is solved. I went to PartsSource (a Canadian Tire subsiduary) and my good friend Robin there chased through all his bits and pieces and came up with PCV with a right angle elbow and right sized spiggets - a piece of tube and we are all set to go. Now I hear the MTO people are checking old cars for cat converters !!! Thanks for the replies Someone here just got stomped on for $400 for not having a PCV on his old vehicle. So I am going to fit one to my 3.5L Rover V8. My rocker covers have the outlets at the back while my Edelbrock has the PCV inlet at the front. Anyone got any neat solutions for installation of a PCV and connecting up. The cover has a 1/2" hose size and the card is 3/8" - of course !!! Pictures would be nice. Thanks in advance for replies Regards, Barrie Robinson barrie at look.ca 705-721-9060 MGB GT V8 in great nick Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration From barrie at look.ca Wed May 5 10:14:15 2010 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Wed, 05 May 2010 12:14:15 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock In-Reply-To: References: <1272480636.14477.24.camel@kgrider-laptop> Message-ID: Jim, It is as I had read in a few places. Holley for umph, Edel for smooth. But I found my Edel ran out of the box on my Rover 3.5l - maybe it is different a little bit to the 215. I did read that BL improved the 215 as they were not too happy about certain things. One thing I understand is that the breathing could be improved on the Rover - so suppose that applies to the 215 ?? Toying with the idea of having the heads gas flowed............but there is no dyno within miles and miles of here !!! In UK there are tons - but around Toronto I have yet to find one. Anyway, I have now got it running (well, I chap called Kent did it - knew exactly where what was and why on the Edel). Thanks for your response At 11:53 AM 5/4/2010, James Bown wrote: >I have run both the Holley 390 and Edelbrock 500 on my 215 Buicks. >I have also run both a Holley and Edelbrock (properly sized) on a >Ford 351 in a boat. >Also I have had Holleys and Edelbrocks (and lots of others carbs) on >a variety of small block Chevs over the last 40 years. >Both are good. >How good depends on how much time is spent getting everything just right. >I agree, that after everthing is fine tuned correctly, that the >Holley has more topend power and the Edelbrock is better on the >lowend. I've got timeslips showing better 60 foot times with the >Edelbrocks but slightly faster ETs with the Holleys. >To that end I tend to run Holleys on my race cars and sandrails, and >Edelbrocks on my street stuff. >It isn't a hard and fast rule though. >Currently I have an Edelbrock on a modified 215 Buick in a sandrail. >Here is the interesting thing: If I didn't know which brand carb was >on an engine (assuming the carb was properly setup and tuned) I >doubt I could tell by just driving the car. >The important thing is: Spent the time (dyno time, road time, tuning >time, etc) to get it setup right. >If you don't have the time, or the skill, then you need to use the >carb that your mechanic is most experienced with. >Don't try to force your Holley mechanic to learn the Edelbrock on your dime! >Besides, unless your a drag racer, does a difference of .05 seconds >in your 0-60 foot time or .2 seconds in your 1000 foot time really matter? >One thing for sure, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, the Holley 390 will run >fairly OK on a Buick 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. >The Edelbrock 500 WILL NOT RUN OK ON A BUICK 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE >BOX. It needs different jets and rods!!! >Regards, >Jim Bown > > > > > >---------- >Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more >from your inbox. >See >how. Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705--721-9060 From jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com Wed May 5 18:31:47 2010 From: jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com (James Bown) Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 18:31:47 -0600 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock In-Reply-To: References: , <1272480636.14477.24.camel@kgrider-laptop>, , Message-ID: Well put, "Holley for umph, Edel for smooth". Usually the Edel, right out of the box, is way way too rich. Perhaps 'Kent changed the jets and rods? Date: Wed, 5 May 2010 12:14:15 -0400 To: jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com; keith.grider at gmail.com From: barrie at look.ca Subject: RE: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock CC: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net Jim, It is as I had read in a few places. Holley for umph, Edel for smooth. But I found my Edel ran out of the box on my Rover 3.5l - maybe it is different a little bit to the 215. I did read that BL improved the 215 as they were not too happy about certain things. One thing I understand is that the breathing could be improved on the Rover - so suppose that applies to the 215 ?? Toying with the idea of having the heads gas flowed............but there is no dyno within miles and miles of here !!! In UK there are tons - but around Toronto I have yet to find one. Anyway, I have now got it running (well, I chap called Kent did it - knew exactly where what was and why on the Edel). Thanks for your response At 11:53 AM 5/4/2010, James Bown wrote: I have run both the Holley 390 and Edelbrock 500 on my 215 Buicks. I have also run both a Holley and Edelbrock (properly sized) on a Ford 351 in a boat. Also I have had Holleys and Edelbrocks (and lots of others carbs) on a variety of small block Chevs over the last 40 years. Both are good. How good depends on how much time is spent getting everything just right. I agree, that after everthing is fine tuned correctly, that the Holley has more topend power and the Edelbrock is better on the lowend. I've got timeslips showing better 60 foot times with the Edelbrocks but slightly faster ETs with the Holleys. To that end I tend to run Holleys on my race cars and sandrails, and Edelbrocks on my street stuff. It isn't a hard and fast rule though. Currently I have an Edelbrock on a modified 215 Buick in a sandrail. Here is the interesting thing: If I didn't know which brand carb was on an engine (assuming the carb was properly setup and tuned) I doubt I could tell by just driving the car. The important thing is: Spent the time (dyno time, road time, tuning time, etc) to get it setup right. If you don't have the time, or the skill, then you need to use the carb that your mechanic is most experienced with. Don't try to force your Holley mechanic to learn the Edelbrock on your dime! Besides, unless your a drag racer, does a difference of .05 seconds in your 0-60 foot time or .2 seconds in your 1000 foot time really matter? One thing for sure, AND THIS IS IMPORTANT, the Holley 390 will run fairly OK on a Buick 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. The Edelbrock 500 WILL NOT RUN OK ON A BUICK 215 RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX. It needs different jets and rods!!! Regards, Jim Bown Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. See how. Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705--721-9060 _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy think 9 to 5 is a cute idea. Combine multiple calendars with Hotmail. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?tile=multicalendar&ocid=PID283 26::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:WM_HMP:042010_5 From therays at ellijay.com Thu May 6 14:47:51 2010 From: therays at ellijay.com (The Rays) Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 16:47:51 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Limited Edition Front Air Spoiler Message-ID: Does anyone have a source for a Limited Edition front air spoiler? Thanks, Jim Ray From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun May 9 03:39:15 2010 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:39:15 +0100 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wheel nut torque Message-ID: <826B3B59297D4EE081021EA100DC69F8@paul> Had two fronts tyres replaced this week, and I noticed that the fitter used an air gun to do the nuts back up and only used a torque wrench to check that they weren't *under* torqued. Correct torque is 60 ft lb, I used my torque wrench to loosen a couple on the rears and they needed about 70 ft lb. One of the fronts got up to 100 ft lb before it started to move, very slowly, needing torque to keep it moving whereas they usually loosen quite quickly, another got up to 120 ft lb and then the torque wrench (bendy bar type) broke! I had to use a breaker bar on the rest, and they were very variable in how much force was required. Bastards, that's another tyre chain (National Tyre and Autowreck) crossed off my list, to go with the place (Shit-Fit) that wrecked the coating on a just-refurbished alloy. This place also used a short lift to raise the car, the wheels straddle it then they put rubber blocks under the body to lift it, something else I didn't like. PaulH. From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Sun May 9 08:56:06 2010 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 15:56:06 +0100 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Wheel nut torque References: <826B3B59297D4EE081021EA100DC69F8@paul> Message-ID: <6303C6AAEB0844148709AF1B3978E610@paul> And the only way I'll know that is likely when a wheel goes bounding down the road ... ----- Original Message ----- > Beware of the upcoming cracks! >> Had two fronts tyres replaced this week, and I noticed that the fitter >> used an >> air gun to do the nuts back up... From barrie at look.ca Mon May 10 11:59:14 2010 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Mon, 10 May 2010 13:59:14 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Electric fan Message-ID: My super newly found mechanic took a unilateral decision to take out my electric fan and fit another with electronic control (really unnecessary). He is really good spending my money and now wants to rewire my HT with fancy wire and spark plug connectors because they are "sparking". I tested in the dark - no sparks !!! But he has improved the motor with deft tuning !! But I now have a 2,950 CFM Perma-Cool fan of low mileage which is really fierce and industrial looking. Will some one make me an offer around $70 - it is now listed (19114) at $125 at Summit racing. Postage extra Regards Barrie barrie at look.ca 705--721-9060 From tedtsimx at bright.net Wed May 12 06:23:46 2010 From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher) Date: Wed, 12 May 2010 08:23:46 -0400 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Carlisle commercial Message-ID: <4BEA9DD2.4010808@bright.net> Carlisle commercial -- last call. We will be at Import Carlisle Thursday through Saturday. Spaces E63 and E64. If you need something that we normally do not take to this event, engines, gearboxes or other heavy items, please lt us know. Save shipping. Also for sale is the canopy listed below. Ideal for the "famous"Carlisle weather. Thanks for your time. Ted $For Sale -- new 10' x 20' free standing canopy. This is a post and frame unit, not a folding "Easy Up" style canopy. We needed a spare for the Sebring 12 hour race. Used one time. We did not even use the top but rather a pullover large vinyl tarp. Posts come apart for transport. There are no side walls. These are available from several sources.. $100 -- Ted Schumacher tedtsimx at bright.net http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com 108 S. Jefferson St. Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877 Fax: 419.384.3272 (24 Hrs.) Phone: 800.543.6648 (US & Canada) Tech/ Gen. Information/ Worldwide: 419.384.3022 From jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com Mon May 17 21:52:37 2010 From: jaguarsandrail at hotmail.com (James Bown) Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 21:52:37 -0600 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wheel nut torque In-Reply-To: <826B3B59297D4EE081021EA100DC69F8@paul> References: <826B3B59297D4EE081021EA100DC69F8@paul> Message-ID: It is very annoying how the tire dealers do such quick and messy work. I have taken to showing up with a torque wrench and asking if I can go out in the shop to tighten up the nuts. Usually just asking causes them to do the tightening by hand with a torque wrench. Regards, Jim B. > From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk > To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net; MG-MGB at yahoogroups.com > Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 10:39:15 +0100 > Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wheel nut torque > > Had two fronts tyres replaced this week, and I noticed that the fitter used an > air gun to do the nuts back up and only used a torque wrench to check that > they weren't *under* torqued. Correct torque is 60 ft lb, _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail is redefining busy with tools for the New Busy. Get more from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_2