From barrie at look.ca  Sat Jan 16 10:02:13 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:02:13 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Evapo-rust
Message-ID: <E1NWC2x-0000OE-Ib@alpha.look.ca>

Anyone tried Evapo Rust?   I need something for my rusty car parts !!

Regards

Barrie Robinson

705-721-9060 (Canada)
MGB GT V8
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII in the wings
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm            TRY 
www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies

From mgb_zenkus at yahoo.com  Sat Jan 16 10:29:29 2010
From: mgb_zenkus at yahoo.com (Bill Zenkus)
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:29:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Evapo-rust
Message-ID: <130971.84446.qm@web82508.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I've had excellent results with POR-15
Never heard of  Evapo Rust...

Sent from Bill's iPhone!

On Jan 16, 2010, at 12:02 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrie at look.ca> wrote:

Anyone tried Evapo Rust?   I need something for my rusty car parts !!

Regards

Barrie Robinson

705-721-9060 (Canada)
MGB GT V8
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII in the wings
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From barrie at look.ca  Sun Jan 17 13:00:19 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 15:00:19 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Rust stuff
Message-ID: <E1NWbZN-0002hq-8J@beta.look.ca>

My many thanks for that welter of excellent responses o my question 
regarding rust stuff.

There seems to be two types of product.  One which covers over and 
neutralises rust and thus being an end in itself (but you can paint 
over it).  This is products like POR 15, which I have used before and 
found good) and SEM rust-mort.   The other which removes all the rust 
and then requires to be painted, like Evapo Rust.  I am going for the 
Evapo stuff.

Incidentally, I used to have my parts sandblasted (oh that hurts) and 
then powder coated.  I have found a local fellow who will come to 
wherever and sandblast using aluminium oxide or walnut shells on 
delicate things.....and then electrostatic paint them.  (He puts up a 
tent on ones drive !!) I was quite convinced by his chat on 
electrostatic painting particularly when he said he applied a 
polywhatsit-etching primer first.  The nice thing he avoids me having 
to lug parts around which is especially great with the chassis & 
body.  Price he quoted was lower than I have been used to with 
previous efforts.

Regards

Barrie
barrie at look.ca
(705) 721-9060 

From barrie at look.ca  Mon Jan 18 13:21:49 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 15:21:49 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Bad parts / Brake Master Cylinder
In-Reply-To: <20100118174851.02F5024DD1C@mail.napanet.net>
References: <97A3F60B0BE0401A98807D8097755F0D@TOMPC>
	<F83E8E30C3994CD7B638D11270EC4872@DELL>
	<D691D475A92F47DA889665F69EDA4550@paul>
	<D090C13C7CFD4F99B40950CDC128216D@uw471de61b465c>
	<3F256C0402844E19B80273933FD60DE9@DELL>
	<4801E63444304342BA12869D78DB025F0593D444@EXVS01.msubillings.edu>
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	<20100118174851.02F5024DD1C@mail.napanet.net>
Message-ID: <E1NWyJc-0003Ow-S0@zeta.look.ca>

Don,

You made me think that perhaps I could put a list up on my British 
Car Cottage Industries web site!  (www.britcot.com).  However, 
despite a lot of compliments about its philosophy and purpose I have 
great difficulty in getting "cottagers" to list.  It is as if there 
was some huge fee and the info was used to persecute, pillage and 
ply.   So I am wondering if it is worth the effort.  I also wonder 
how many on the list have visited the site - I certainly have had 
very little input from list members.  That includes the other marque lists too.


At 12:37 PM 1/18/2010, don wrote:
>Too bad with all the Brit car websites there isn't a Bad Parts 
>Warning Site where bad parts experiences could be entered by the 
>unlucky enthusiast.  Some way to help us when purchasing so that we 
>don't make the same mistake our brethren have already made.  There's 
>bound to be individual rare bad parts issues, but there are other 
>parts that are consistently bad and such a site might show that part 
>from a particular supplier has a poor track record.
>
>Don Scott
>Calistoga
>1962 MGA Mk II
>1991 Miata BRG
>1973 MGB GT (selling)
>1963-65 MGB (seeking)
>
>
>At 09:18 AM 01/18/2010, Craig Straub wrote:
>>Thought I would update everyone on the brake master cylinder situation.
>>
>>After 2 weekends of extremely cold weather finally got back into 
>>the garage. The PROBLEM was that the brand new brake master 
>>cylinder had a warped resevior.  Took off the brand new resevior 
>>and put on the old one.  Luckily I had a brake master cylinder 
>>rebuild kit here  that had new seals for the resevior.
>>
>>Craig
>>
>>________________________
>
>_______________________________________________
>
>Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
>Mgs at autox.team.net
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>
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>No virus found in this incoming message.
>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
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>01/18/10 16:56:00

Regards

Barrie
(705) 721-9060 

From doddk at mossmotors.com  Mon Jan 18 14:05:08 2010
From: doddk at mossmotors.com (Dodd, Kelvin)
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 2010 13:05:08 -0800
Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Bad parts / Brake Master Cylinder
In-Reply-To: <E1NWyJc-0003Ow-S0@zeta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <42329DF34840DB4E9785C8DF24C8A97F109DDBEC@kb1.mossmotors.com>

Barrie.

The other problem with lists of this type is that part sourcing is not a
steady state situation. Manufacturers and suppliers are constantly
changing products to resolve fitment and quality issues, so any problems
may have been resolved by the time it is posted to a site.

The best thing to do is report the problem to the supplier, so that it
can be communicated to the manufacturer/vendor, and/or be resourced.

1st rule of thumb in this business:  No one wants to sell bad parts!
The headaches involved with customer disatisfaction are not worth the
price. The British car parts market relies on repeat business, so no
supplier is going to sell junk on purpose.




Kelvin Dodd



> -----Original Message-----
> From: mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson
> Sent: Monday, January 18, 2010 12:22 PM
> To: don; Mgs at autox.team.net; mgb-v8 at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Bad parts / Brake Master Cylinder
>
> Don,
>
> You made me think that perhaps I could put a list up on my
> British Car Cottage Industries web site!  (www.britcot.com).
> However, despite a lot of compliments about its philosophy
> and purpose I have great difficulty in getting "cottagers" to
> list.  It is as if there was some huge fee and the info was
> used to persecute, pillage and
> ply.   So I am wondering if it is worth the effort.  I also wonder
> how many on the list have visited the site - I certainly have
> had very little input from list members.  That includes the
> other marque lists too.
>
>
> At 12:37 PM 1/18/2010, don wrote:
> >Too bad with all the Brit car websites there isn't a Bad
> Parts Warning
> >Site where bad parts experiences could be entered by the unlucky
> >enthusiast.  Some way to help us when purchasing so that we
> don't make
> >the same mistake our brethren have already made.  There's
> bound to be
> >individual rare bad parts issues, but there are other parts that are
> >consistently bad and such a site might show that part from a
> particular
> >supplier has a poor track record.
> >
> >Don Scott
> >Calistoga
> >1962 MGA Mk II
> >1991 Miata BRG
> >1973 MGB GT (selling)
> >1963-65 MGB (seeking)
> >
> >
> >At 09:18 AM 01/18/2010, Craig Straub wrote:
> >>Thought I would update everyone on the brake master
> cylinder situation.
> >>
> >>After 2 weekends of extremely cold weather finally got back
> into the
> >>garage. The PROBLEM was that the brand new brake master
> cylinder had a
> >>warped resevior.  Took off the brand new resevior and put
> on the old
> >>one.  Luckily I had a brake master cylinder rebuild kit
> here  that had
> >>new seals for the resevior.
> >>
> >>Craig
> >>
> >>________________________
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >
> >Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> >
> >Mgs at autox.team.net
> >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs
> >
> >http://www.team.net/archive
> >
> >
> >No virus found in this incoming message.
> >Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >Version: 8.5.432 / Virus Database: 270.14.149/2631 - Release Date:
> >01/18/10 16:56:00
>
> Regards
>
> Barrie
> (705) 721-9060
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From therays at ellijay.com  Tue Jan 19 16:08:19 2010
From: therays at ellijay.com (The Rays)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:08:19 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Alternator question
Message-ID: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMMEOIDGAA.therays@ellijay.com>

Can anyone suggest an alternator for my MGB V8 with an engine from a Rover
P3500?  I would like to use the original mounting bracket that came on the
engine and would also like to use a "one wire" type.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Wed Jan 20 02:37:35 2010
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 2010 09:37:35 -0000
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Alternator question
References: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMMEOIDGAA.therays@ellijay.com>
Message-ID: <F8A263D3D19E418497C8FBE79B6E15A8@paul>

Won't an original type fit somehow?  Aren't most alternators of a similar 
size?  If it's a packaging problem isn't it the mounting position that has 
to change?   And what do you mean by a 'one wire'?  I've seen at least two 
definitions of this - really only one wire, the output wire, which means you 
lose the diagnostics of the warning light (and how is the alternator 
excited?) and "No I mean one wire plus the indicator wire"!

PaulH.

----- Original Message ----- 
> Can anyone suggest an alternator for my MGB V8 with an engine from a Rover
> P3500?  I would like to use the original mounting bracket that came on the
> engine and would also like to use a "one wire" type.

From barrie at look.ca  Thu Jan 21 08:25:39 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 10:25:39 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Polyurethane bushes
Message-ID: <E1NXzVw-0003sr-Ls@beta.look.ca>

Old Brit cars used SilentBloc bushings for suspension, steering and, 
in my case, body to chassis.  I need new ones and I can only find 
very expensive replacements.  Does anyone have experience of making 
their own bushings or know of an outfit that could make a small 
quantity?   They do not seem very hard to make requiring a simple 
mould and pouring in polyurethane liquid

Regards

Barrie Robinson

705-721-9060 (Canada)
MGB GT V8
Aston Martin DB 2/4 MkII in the wings
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm            TRY 
www.britcot.com - a unique web site for car goodies

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Jan 21 09:59:55 2010
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 2010 16:59:55 -0000
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Polyurethane bushes
References: <E1NXzVw-0003sr-Ls@beta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <B9BC84A726B54E7489D3A00803822FC5@paul>

MGOC has the Silentbloc bushes for the MGB rear springs at a paltry #2.95. 
This site 
http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/pf-allparts.phtml?Category=/andre+hartford+shock+absorber/ 
has other sizes for 10-12 quid.

----- Original Message ----- 
> Old Brit cars used SilentBloc bushings for suspension, steering and, in my 
> case, body to chassis.  I need new ones and I can only find very expensive 
> replacements. 

From ptrmgb at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 05:21:49 2010
From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 06:21:49 -0600
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Polyurethane bushes
In-Reply-To: <B9BC84A726B54E7489D3A00803822FC5@paul>
References: <E1NXzVw-0003sr-Ls@beta.look.ca>
	<B9BC84A726B54E7489D3A00803822FC5@paul>
Message-ID: <1FFFA933-2A91-4E94-BA61-62035C8B05B1@gmail.com>

I think Barrie is working on his Aston Martin Db2/4.

On Jan 21, 2010, at 10:59 AM, Paul Hunt wrote:

> MGOC has the Silentbloc bushes for the MGB rear springs at a paltry #2.95.
This site
http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/pf-allparts.phtml?Category=/andre+hartford+s
hock+absorber/ has other sizes for 10-12 quid.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> Old Brit cars used SilentBloc bushings for suspension, steering and, in my
case, body to chassis.  I need new ones and I can only find very expensive
replacements.
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From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Fri Jan 22 08:01:00 2010
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 15:01:00 -0000
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Polyurethane bushes
References: <E1NXzVw-0003sr-Ls@beta.look.ca>
	<B9BC84A726B54E7489D3A00803822FC5@paul>
	<1FFFA933-2A91-4E94-BA61-62035C8B05B1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <FFF4745495DF41A58DAD3C653F9F42AA@paul>

I realised it probably wasn't an MGB, but he may have been able to do 
something with the sizes, and they didn't seem that expensive to me.

----- Original Message ----- 
I think Barrie is working on his Aston Martin Db2/4.

> MGOC has the Silentbloc bushes for the MGB rear springs at a paltry #2.95. 
> This site 
> http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/pf-allparts.phtml?Category=/andre+hartford+shock+absorber/ 
> has other sizes for 10-12 quid.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> Old Brit cars used SilentBloc bushings for suspension, steering and, in 
>> my case, body to chassis.  I need new ones and I can only find very 
>> expensive replacements.

From ptrmgb at gmail.com  Fri Jan 22 09:36:43 2010
From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 2010 10:36:43 -0600
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Polyurethane bushes
In-Reply-To: <FFF4745495DF41A58DAD3C653F9F42AA@paul>
References: <E1NXzVw-0003sr-Ls@beta.look.ca>
	<B9BC84A726B54E7489D3A00803822FC5@paul>
	<1FFFA933-2A91-4E94-BA61-62035C8B05B1@gmail.com>
	<FFF4745495DF41A58DAD3C653F9F42AA@paul>
Message-ID: <063519F8-5F4F-4A4B-B2D1-8B20EC570A10@gmail.com>

True.

On Jan 22, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Paul Hunt wrote:

> I realised it probably wasn't an MGB, but he may have been able to do
something with the sizes, and they didn't seem that expensive to me.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- I think Barrie is working on his Aston Martin
Db2/4.
>
>> MGOC has the Silentbloc bushes for the MGB rear springs at a paltry #2.95.
This site
http://www.vintagecarparts.co.uk/pf-allparts.phtml?Category=/andre+hartford+s
hock+absorber/ has other sizes for 10-12 quid.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> Old Brit cars used SilentBloc bushings for suspension, steering and, in my
case, body to chassis.  I need new ones and I can only find very expensive
replacements.