From therays at ellijay.com  Sat Apr  3 09:59:22 2010
From: therays at ellijay.com (The Rays)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:59:22 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wiring question
Message-ID: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMOEIBDIAA.therays@ellijay.com>

I am attempting to install a radio in my 1980 MGB and can't seem to find a
wire that is hot when the ignition switch is in the accessory position.  Can
anyone help?

Thanks,

Jim Ray
Talking Rock, GA

From ptrmgb at gmail.com  Sat Apr  3 10:55:02 2010
From: ptrmgb at gmail.com (Paul Root)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 12:55:02 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Their back!!
Message-ID: <D383FC63-1468-4412-8870-061C3E71604F@gmail.com>

Here's some good news.  John said it came out on the mgb-experience. I'm
surprised it didn't make it to our lists.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHSGxCnezmw&feature=digest

From mgb_zenkus at yahoo.com  Sat Apr  3 13:20:45 2010
From: mgb_zenkus at yahoo.com (Bill Zenkus)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 13:20:45 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wiring question
In-Reply-To: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMOEIBDIAA.therays@ellijay.com>
References: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMOEIBDIAA.therays@ellijay.com>
Message-ID: <435467.5138.qm@web82507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

White with green tracer off ing switch...
(wiring diagram attached....)
 
Bill
74 MGB 63 Olds w/ T5 trans.



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Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wiring question

I am attempting to
install a radio in my 1980 MGB and can't seem to find a
wire that is hot when
the ignition switch is in the accessory position.  Can
anyone help?

Thanks,
Jim Ray
Talking Rock, GA
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From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Mon Apr  5 02:01:59 2010
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Mon, 5 Apr 2010 09:01:59 +0100
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Wiring question
References: <CDEALDGOLDJPBOIIGACMOEIBDIAA.therays@ellijay.com>
	<435467.5138.qm@web82507.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <253442C24C074D60A8733C585256AE3D@paul>

Usually ends in a bullet connector going nowhere behind the centre console. 
There should be permanently powered (purple) for any 'memory' circuits, 
lighting (red/white) and earth (black) wires in the same area.

(Ign switch rather ing, can't attach anything to this list)

----- Original Message ----- 

> White with green tracer off ing switch...
> (wiring diagram attached....)
>
> I am attempting to
> install a radio in my 1980 MGB and can't seem to find a
> wire that is hot when
> the ignition switch is in the accessory position.  Can
> anyone help?

From barrie at look.ca  Mon Apr 12 15:35:30 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:35:30 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Austin Healey
Message-ID: <E1O1SGL-0000qH-3j@theta.look.ca>

Just in case anyone is interested!

A friend of mine has a 1967 Austin Healey that he wants to sell.  It 
has been stored for 30 years but has rusty wheels, bad interior and 
some damage.  But and excellent project car probably not needing much 
more to restore to 100 points than any other example.

If you are interested email to Denis Robbie at 
robbied at rogers.com.  He will be subscribing to the Healey list

Regards

Barrie
(705) 721-9060 

From hubrick at gmail.com  Mon Apr 26 05:09:28 2010
From: hubrick at gmail.com (Rick Huber)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 06:09:28 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Remove transmission without engine
Message-ID: <n2j99ad10451004260409j8d05857fwfa7b58615f9c6fb9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there everybody,

I have a 75 MGB with a 3.5 liter Rover V8 and a 5 speed SD1 transmission.  I
need to work on the transmission.  Has anybody had any success or developed
a way to pull the transmission without taking out the engine too?

Cheers,
Rick Huber

From barrie at look.ca  Wed Apr 28 09:23:07 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:23:07 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock
Message-ID: <E1O7Abd-0005DC-L9@theta.look.ca>

I have had an Edelbrock (Weber) 1404 carb on my 3.5L Rover V8 motor 
since day one.  I have never got the engine running "sweetly" 
although I do have a mild cam.  I have found a mechanic who 
understands these things and is heavy into track, hot rod and such 
type cars.  He did a few things to my motor - found a few faults like 
timing was off, carb was leaking air a bit.  Now it runs much better 
but he is saying I should replace my carb with a Holley - night and 
day he maintains.  He, and his high tech man (computers,chips, 
whizbangs and that sort of new stuff) say no one runs Edelbrocks in 
the stock/hot rod/track cars - no one!  Now RPi in UK extol the 
virtues of the Edelbrock which sells in UK as a Weber, but then they 
sell them - not Holleys.   Has anyone had both? and what difference 
did you find?   Please accept my thanks in advance for any replies

Regards,

Barrie Robinson
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060
MGB GT V8  in great nick
Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration 

From larry at embreyfamily.com  Wed Apr 28 12:18:40 2010
From: larry at embreyfamily.com (Larry)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 11:18:40 -0700
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock
In-Reply-To: <E1O7Abd-0005DC-L9@theta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <764B7C1E29F44B12A564A39940FD48A1@wowgate>

Barrie,
Like many things in life you will find people tend to Be either A or B.
Everyone has a preference, they can be based on fact, feeling, familiarity
etc..

I have had both, however the Holley I had was a mechanical 650DP (aka track
ubber hotrod carb), the edelbrock was the classic 625cfm Vacuum secondary
carb they copied from Weber.  The Holley had more brute power and really had
that hot-rod feel and power.  But it did not idle or cruise as well.  The
edelbrock idled smooth as silk, cruised very well, improved mpg by over
2mpg, BUT did not have the punch of the Holley.  The Holley literally made
the engine pop going WOT, BOOM your gone, the Edelbrock came on smoother and
did not have the power at top end.

Holley; widely popular specially in hotrod sectors, in terms of aftermarket
carb mods, Holley probably has more options (main bodies, bowls, etc.)
Requires draining bowls to change jets.
Edelbrock: popular with street rods and cars that see allot of cruising or
more daily usage.  Less aftermarket options, but changing metering rods can
be done in car without draining carb bowls.

If you main tuner/mechanic is a Holley guy, that does have a benefit, always
good to use what your primary wrench uses and likes ;-)

Larry
-----Original Message-----
From: mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson
Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 8:23 AM
To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock


I have had an Edelbrock (Weber) 1404 carb on my 3.5L Rover V8 motor
since day one.  I have never got the engine running "sweetly"
although I do have a mild cam.  I have found a mechanic who
understands these things and is heavy into track, hot rod and such
type cars.  He did a few things to my motor - found a few faults like
timing was off, carb was leaking air a bit.  Now it runs much better
but he is saying I should replace my carb with a Holley - night and
day he maintains.  He, and his high tech man (computers,chips,
whizbangs and that sort of new stuff) say no one runs Edelbrocks in
the stock/hot rod/track cars - no one!  Now RPi in UK extol the
virtues of the Edelbrock which sells in UK as a Weber, but then they
sell them - not Holleys.   Has anyone had both? and what difference
did you find?   Please accept my thanks in advance for any replies

Regards,

Barrie Robinson
barrie at look.ca
705-721-9060
MGB GT V8  in great nick
Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration
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From keith.grider at gmail.com  Wed Apr 28 12:50:36 2010
From: keith.grider at gmail.com (Keith Grider)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:50:36 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Holley vs Edelbrock
In-Reply-To: <E1O7Abd-0005DC-L9@theta.look.ca>
References: <E1O7Abd-0005DC-L9@theta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <1272480636.14477.24.camel@kgrider-laptop>

My experience is that people who say this have little experience with
Carters/Edelbrocks. If all you do is idle and WOT, a Holley is great.
Partial throttle is where the Carter shines, IMO. With a 'strip kit' of
springs, rods and jets, you can dial in a Carter very nicely. It takes a
lot more finesse and bits and pieces to get a Holley dialed in in my
experience. 

That said, I would challenge you to demonstrate any difference on the
dyno or on the road between 2 of them which are properly tuned, so the
ability to tune the Carter with stepped rods and jets is the advantage
compared to a 'power valve' and jets that a Holley uses. 

Vacuum leak, timing are critical get the basics right and no matter what
you are running it will be better. Also you may find that your
weights/springs in the dizzy could be changed so that you get timing
faster. That can help as well.

$0.02 - YMMV

KeithG

On Wed, 2010-04-28 at 11:23 -0400, Barrie Robinson wrote:
> I have had an Edelbrock (Weber) 1404 carb on my 3.5L Rover V8 motor 
> since day one.  I have never got the engine running "sweetly" 
> although I do have a mild cam.  I have found a mechanic who 
> understands these things and is heavy into track, hot rod and such 
> type cars.  He did a few things to my motor - found a few faults like 
> timing was off, carb was leaking air a bit.  Now it runs much better 
> but he is saying I should replace my carb with a Holley - night and 
> day he maintains.  He, and his high tech man (computers,chips, 
> whizbangs and that sort of new stuff) say no one runs Edelbrocks in 
> the stock/hot rod/track cars - no one!  Now RPi in UK extol the 
> virtues of the Edelbrock which sells in UK as a Weber, but then they 
> sell them - not Holleys.   Has anyone had both? and what difference 
> did you find?   Please accept my thanks in advance for any replies
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Barrie Robinson
> barrie at look.ca
> 705-721-9060
> MGB GT V8  in great nick
> Aston Martin 1955 DB 2/4 MkII under restoration 
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From packrat6 at charter.net  Wed Apr 28 17:32:30 2010
From: packrat6 at charter.net (packrat6)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 19:32:30 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] gear oil
Message-ID: <8D6914789DF84768AE3EDA8A67F46E0E@ownerac837cb56>

i'm confused.

what is the preferred oil for a garden variety, full synchro mg gearbox?

From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Thu Apr 29 01:58:04 2010
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:58:04 +0100
Subject: [Mgb-v8] gear oil
References: <8D6914789DF84768AE3EDA8A67F46E0E@ownerac837cb56>
Message-ID: <D299B4C41F564EF29A0DEC39D9842C85@paul>

The *correct* lubricant is engine oil, i.e. exactly the same as goes in the 
engine.  Gear oil was only used in V8s.

----- Original Message ----- 
> i'm confused.
>
> what is the preferred oil for a garden variety, full synchro mg gearbox?

From rshellen at comcast.net  Thu Apr 29 06:09:41 2010
From: rshellen at comcast.net (E Ronald Shellenberger)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:09:41 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Edelbrock
Message-ID: <79DF76B03DEE4631B8D52B14C3DA3353@RSNB>

I have a Buick 215 that came with a 4 barrel Rochester. I  discussed
rebuilding it to use with several mechanics, they all said just ditch it and
puit a Holley on. Same with a SD1 with fuel iunjection. Could it be that the
average mechanic is just more familiar with Holley, here in Pa. they are on
everthing. I'm sure if you called Eldebrock they would have a different
opinion.
Ron

From keith.grider at gmail.com  Thu Apr 29 07:22:47 2010
From: keith.grider at gmail.com (Keith Grider)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 08:22:47 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Edelbrock
In-Reply-To: <79DF76B03DEE4631B8D52B14C3DA3353@RSNB>
References: <79DF76B03DEE4631B8D52B14C3DA3353@RSNB>
Message-ID: <w2g634d2e2f1004290622v9508083bjb92f3b5c85fd666d@mail.gmail.com>

Ron,

Probably. My opinion on the Rochester is that it has a finite life. At some
point the bore on the power piston wears and the power valve stays on
causing an over rich condition. The fix is to rebuild it and sleeve the bore
on the culinder (In the air horn). I think there is a place that does this
as it is similar to many Rochester 2 bbls. My favorite is the
carter/edelbrock if you need a carb as it is easily tuned with the strip kit
for your application and state of tune. I must say, though, I am more for
port fuel injection with some stand alone EMS.

KeithG



On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 7:09 AM, E Ronald Shellenberger <
rshellen at comcast.net> wrote:

> I have a Buick 215 that came with a 4 barrel Rochester. I  discussed
> rebuilding it to use with several mechanics, they all said just ditch it
> and
> puit a Holley on. Same with a SD1 with fuel iunjection. Could it be that
> the
> average mechanic is just more familiar with Holley, here in Pa. they are on
> everthing. I'm sure if you called Eldebrock they would have a different
> opinion.
> Ron
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From barrie at look.ca  Thu Apr 29 07:49:00 2010
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 09:49:00 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Edelbrock
In-Reply-To: <79DF76B03DEE4631B8D52B14C3DA3353@RSNB>
References: <79DF76B03DEE4631B8D52B14C3DA3353@RSNB>
Message-ID: <E1O7UzJ-0003Ej-Jd@gamma.look.ca>

Ron,

Just read the part on carbs in "How to give your V8 power" (or 
something like that) and it says Holley's are more complex but are 
almost exactly the same as Edel's except above 5,000 rpm when they 
give a shade more power.  The take was Holley's great for hot rods, 
track cars etc because more initial umph - but Edel's for smooth 
street running and less of a pain to get in tune.  This confirmed by 
another lister.  Book says use rolling road which are plentiful in UK 
but hens teeth here in Canada.  Another indication of how behind 
North America is in consumable auto stuff.  I remember when I came to 
Canada in 1968 they had never heard of radial tyres - I had been 
using them in the Far East since the fifties.



At 08:09 AM 4/29/2010, E Ronald Shellenberger wrote:
>I have a Buick 215 that came with a 4 barrel Rochester. I  discussed
>rebuilding it to use with several mechanics, they all said just ditch it and
>puit a Holley on. Same with a SD1 with fuel iunjection. Could it be that the
>average mechanic is just more familiar with Holley, here in Pa. they are on
>everthing. I'm sure if you called Eldebrock they would have a different
>opinion.
>Ron
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Regards

Barrie
(705) 721-9060 

From tedtsimx at bright.net  Thu Apr 29 13:46:50 2010
From: tedtsimx at bright.net (Ted Schumacher)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 15:46:50 -0400
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Import Carlisle
Message-ID: <4BD9E22A.40409@bright.net>

We will beat Carlisle. Spaces E63 & E64. If you have something you need 
for me to bring out, please let me know.Save on shipping - especially if 
a large item(s). Will be there Thursday afternoon through late Saturday 
afternoon. Will have steelbraid hoses, suspension components, our gear 
reduction starters and much more. Please come by and say hello. Thanks,Ted

-- 
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