From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 1 01:46:57 2009 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 08:46:57 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! References: Message-ID: <02D0253FE6D0437E820E71732733B5F6@Three> To all MG-ers, May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and many enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! . __,_._,___ From wkube at augustmail.com Thu Jan 1 06:30:23 2009 From: wkube at augustmail.com (Wayne Kube) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 07:30:23 -0600 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! References: <02D0253FE6D0437E820E71732733B5F6@Three> Message-ID: The same to all of you! May you enjoy all of your driving miles! Wayne Kube Plano, TX '79 MGB V8 3.9L EFI "Hobbes" Logan Lathe Model 1925 n5wmk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Hunt" To: "V8 list" ; ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:46 AM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > To all MG-ers, > > May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and > many > enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. > > PaulH. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! > > . > __,_._,___ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as wkube at augustmail.com > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From cmfloyd at chartertn.net Thu Jan 1 07:15:58 2009 From: cmfloyd at chartertn.net (Carl Floyd) Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 09:15:58 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! References: <02D0253FE6D0437E820E71732733B5F6@Three> Message-ID: <000901c96c1b$77c9cb00$6401a8c0@soprana> Thanks, Paul & Wayne! Happy New Year!! Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wayne Kube" To: "Paul Hunt" ; "V8 list" ; ; Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 8:30 AM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > The same to all of you! May you enjoy all of your driving miles! > > > Wayne Kube > Plano, TX > > '79 MGB V8 3.9L EFI "Hobbes" > Logan Lathe Model 1925 > n5wmk > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Hunt" > To: "V8 list" ; ; > > Sent: Thursday, January 01, 2009 2:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [MG-MGB] Happy New Year!! > > >> To all MG-ers, >> >> May your oil pressure not drop, your coolant temperature not rise, and >> many >> enjoyable nail-free miles roll under your tyres. >> >> PaulH. >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> Here's wishes for a healthy, wealthy and wise New Year!! >> >> . >> __,_._,___ >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Mgb-v8 mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as wkube at augustmail.com >> >> Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cmfloyd at chartertn.net > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From barrie at look.ca Sat Jan 10 09:12:19 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:12:19 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Miata rear end Message-ID: Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in an MGB? I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does all sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading engines (he is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love to do the transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. So anyone been there, done that? Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From matt.lists at trebelhorn.com Sat Jan 10 09:57:40 2009 From: matt.lists at trebelhorn.com (Matt Trebelhorn) Date: Sat, 10 Jan 2009 11:57:40 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: <76664a460901100847o4a57cd8ak6370fae3e5d17aa6@mail.gmail.com> References: <76664a460901100847o4a57cd8ak6370fae3e5d17aa6@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <9CB62644-A4A8-4305-A80A-63E16713D04F@trebelhorn.com> Kieth is at http://www.slowcarfast.com/MG/ Not much about the rear suspension, yet. But it looks like a fun project! Matt On 10 Jan, 2009, at 11:47 AM, Steve wrote: > There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. > Keith Tanner > is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his > project MGB > GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or > I'd post it > direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and > dig on > MGE. > > Anything can be done, go for it. > > On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson > wrote: > >> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up >> in an MGB? >> >> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >> all >> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >> engines (he >> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >> to do the >> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >> >> So anyone been there, done that? >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline at gmail.com >> >> >> Mgs at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >> >> http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > You are subscribed as matt.lists at trebelhorn.com > > > Mgs at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs > > http://www.team.net/archive From barrie at look.ca Sun Jan 11 10:18:44 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:18:44 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: <7DFB5C3F-A512-43F2-9929-7860077A420A@ghs.com.au> References: <76664a460901100847o4a57cd8ak6370fae3e5d17aa6@mail.gmail.com> <7DFB5C3F-A512-43F2-9929-7860077A420A@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: Murray, The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for petrol to go get it So that is a pretty good reason At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >available off the shelf in the UK. > >Murray Arundell >Brisbane Australia > >On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: > >>There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>Keith Tanner >>is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>project MGB >>GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>post it >>direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>dig on >>MGE. >> >>Anything can be done, go for it. >> >>On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>wrote: >> >>>Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>an MGB? >>> >>>I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>all >>>sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>engines (he >>>is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>to do the >>>transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>> >>>So anyone been there, done that? >>> >>>Regards >>>Barrie >>> >>>Barrie Robinson >>>(705) 721-9060 >>>http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>http://www.britcot.com >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>>You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline at gmail.com >>> >>> >>>Mgs at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>> >>>http://www.team.net/archive >>_______________________________________________ >>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> >>You are subscribed as arundell at ghs.com.au >> >> >>Mgs at autox.team.net >>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >> >>http://www.team.net/archive Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From cmfloyd at chartertn.net Sun Jan 11 13:02:39 2009 From: cmfloyd at chartertn.net (Carl Floyd) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:02:39 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end References: <76664a460901100847o4a57cd8ak6370fae3e5d17aa6@mail.gmail.com><7DFB5C3F-A512-43F2-9929-7860077A420A@ghs.com.au> Message-ID: <000501c97427$8e6e2720$6501a8c0@soprana> This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project It was for sale unfinished awhile back. Carl ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" Cc: ; Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > Murray, > > The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight > A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for > petrol to go get it > > So that is a pretty good reason > > > At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>available off the shelf in the UK. >> >>Murray Arundell >>Brisbane Australia >> >>On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >> >>>There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>Keith Tanner >>>is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>project MGB >>>GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>post it >>>direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>dig on >>>MGE. >>> >>>Anything can be done, go for it. >>> >>>On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>wrote: >>> >>>>Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>an MGB? >>>> >>>>I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>all >>>>sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>engines (he >>>>is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>to do the >>>>transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>> >>>>So anyone been there, done that? >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Barrie >>>> >>>>Barrie Robinson >>>>(705) 721-9060 >>>>http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>http://www.britcot.com >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>>You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline at gmail.com >>>> >>>> >>>>Mgs at autox.team.net >>>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>>http://www.team.net/archive >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> >>>You are subscribed as arundell at ghs.com.au >>> >>> >>>Mgs at autox.team.net >>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>> >>>http://www.team.net/archive > > Regards > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson > (705) 721-9060 > http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ From cgmoog at attglobal.net Sun Jan 11 13:36:32 2009 From: cgmoog at attglobal.net (cgmoog at attglobal.net) Date: Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:36:32 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: <000501c97427$8e6e2720$6501a8c0@soprana> References: <76664a460901100847o4a57cd8ak6370fae3e5d17aa6@mail.gmail.com><7DFB5C3F-A512-43F2-9929-7860077A420A@ghs.com.au> <000501c97427$8e6e2720$6501a8c0@soprana> Message-ID: <496A5850.1020802@attglobal.net> I always thought the rear from the AWD Buick Rendezvous, Pontiac Montana, Aztek would be a good candidate for use in the MGB-V8. Aluminum cross member, SLA independent suspension. Should be cheap. Now we just need someone with welding talent, time and ambition. I only have one of the three. Carl Floyd wrote: > This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: > > http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project > > It was for sale unfinished awhile back. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" > To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > > >> Murray, >> >> The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight >> A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for >> petrol to go get it >> >> So that is a pretty good reason >> >> >> At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>> Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>> available off the shelf in the UK. >>> >>> Murray Arundell >>> Brisbane Australia >>> >>> On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >>> >>>> There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>> Keith Tanner >>>> is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>> project MGB >>>> GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>> post it >>>> direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>> dig on >>>> MGE. >>>> >>>> Anything can be done, go for it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>> an MGB? >>>>> >>>>> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>> all >>>>> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>> engines (he >>>>> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>> to do the >>>>> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone been there, done that? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Barrie >>>>> >>>>> Barrie Robinson >>>>> (705) 721-9060 >>>>> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>> http://www.britcot.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>>> >>>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as arundell at ghs.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cgmoog at attglobal.net > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From edd.rogers at gm.com Mon Jan 12 08:15:47 2009 From: edd.rogers at gm.com (edd.rogers at gm.com) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 10:15:47 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: <496A5850.1020802@attglobal.net> Message-ID: I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of torque. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 cgmoog at attglobal.net Sent by: mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net 01/11/2009 03:36 PM Please respond to cgmoog at attglobal.net To Barrie Robinson cc mgb-v8 at autox.team.net Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end I always thought the rear from the AWD Buick Rendezvous, Pontiac Montana, Aztek would be a good candidate for use in the MGB-V8. Aluminum cross member, SLA independent suspension. Should be cheap. Now we just need someone with welding talent, time and ambition. I only have one of the three. Carl Floyd wrote: > This guy had a great start on a GT with Miata suspension front & rear: > > http://www.pbase.com/speedmonkey/mgb_gt_project > > It was for sale unfinished awhile back. > > Carl > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barrie Robinson" > To: "Murray Arundell" ; "Steve" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end > > >> Murray, >> >> The off the shelf is around $8.4k including freight >> A used Miata set up can be got from breakers for $200-300 and $10 for >> petrol to go get it >> >> So that is a pretty good reason >> >> >> At 11:10 PM 1/9/2009, Murray Arundell wrote: >>> Why bother to reinvent the wheel? In off the shelf IRS rear end is >>> available off the shelf in the UK. >>> >>> Murray Arundell >>> Brisbane Australia >>> >>> On 11/01/2009, at 2:47 AM, Steve wrote: >>> >>>> There are two guys that have started it, neither are finished. >>>> Keith Tanner >>>> is on MGExperience.net and has a blog site with details of his >>>> project MGB >>>> GT and links to the other guy. I can't remember Keith's site or I'd >>>> post it >>>> direct. If you can't find it Barrie, let me know and I'll go and >>>> dig on >>>> MGE. >>>> >>>> Anything can be done, go for it. >>>> >>>> On Sat, Jan 10, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Barrie Robinson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Do you know of anyone who has put a Miata rear suspension set up in >>>>> an MGB? >>>>> >>>>> I am toying with the idea as I have a demon of a mechanic who does >>>>> all >>>>> sorts of mods to rice burners, swapping suspensions, upgrading >>>>> engines (he >>>>> is getting 400 bhp out of a small rotary). He says he would love >>>>> to do the >>>>> transplant and already has some rear ends for other projects. >>>>> >>>>> So anyone been there, done that? >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Barrie >>>>> >>>>> Barrie Robinson >>>>> (705) 721-9060 >>>>> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >>>>> http://www.britcot.com >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> You are subscribed as temporarilyoffline at gmail.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>>> >>>>> http://www.team.net/archive >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as arundell at ghs.com.au >>>> >>>> >>>> Mgs at autox.team.net >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgs >>>> >>>> http://www.team.net/archive >> >> Regards >> Barrie >> >> Barrie Robinson >> (705) 721-9060 >> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm >> http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as cgmoog at attglobal.net > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 Mgb-v8 mailing list You are subscribed as edd.rogers at gm.com Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From m1garandusa at verizon.net Mon Jan 12 17:36:54 2009 From: m1garandusa at verizon.net (James J.) Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:36:54 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496BE226.9010500@verizon.net> Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers at gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 From edd.rogers at GM.COM Tue Jan 13 06:49:55 2009 From: edd.rogers at GM.COM (edd.rogers at GM.COM) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 08:49:55 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: <496BE226.9010500@verizon.net> Message-ID: James, In an AWD vehicle there is a central differential that doles out the power to front and rear of vehicle. Typically there is 60% alloted to the main axle and 40% to the secondary. If the vehicle's basic design is FWD then the majority of power goes to the front axle. So, all I am saying is that one needs to exercise due diligence before going forward. If the rear diff is only designed for 40% then it probably will be massively overstressed if 100% of the torque is applied since the V-8 at least makes similar torque to the Rendezvous' engine. This would be bad. In research on internet it appears that it is a varaible system that will allow up to 70% of torque to a particular axle so not as bad as I was thinking initially. The engine used made about 250 lbs/ft so, you are within design when no more than 175 lbs/ft go to the rear diff. There is probably a safety margin built in of some amount. I just don't want to see someone go to all the work and R &D and then blow the diff. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 "James J." 01/12/2009 07:36 PM To edd.rogers at gm.com, mgb-v8 at autox.team.net cc Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers at gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 From m1garandusa at verizon.net Tue Jan 13 20:44:42 2009 From: m1garandusa at verizon.net (James J.) Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:44:42 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <496D5FAA.4060800@verizon.net> Edd, OK, I'm following. You were describing it's limit as a % of the total drivetrain rating. While I personally wouldn't take the risk, it could probably go higher, as the inertia of the MG at a standstill would be far less load on the system than a heavier car. T-5 transmissions, rated at ~230 ft-lbs in Ford Mustangs have handled well over 300 ft-lbs in MGs and light kit-cars. V/R James edd.rogers at GM.COM wrote: James, In an AWD vehicle there is a central differential that doles out the power to front and rear of vehicle. Typically there is 60% alloted to the main axle and 40% to the secondary. If the vehicle's basic design is FWD then the majority of power goes to the front axle. So, all I am saying is that one needs to exercise due diligence before going forward. If the rear diff is only designed for 40% then it probably will be massively overstressed if 100% of the torque is applied since the V-8 at least makes similar torque to the Rendezvous' engine. This would be bad. In research on internet it appears that it is a varaible system that will allow up to 70% of torque to a particular axle so not as bad as I was thinking initially. The engine used made about 250 lbs/ft so, you are within design when no more than 175 lbs/ft go to the rear diff. There is probably a safety margin built in of some amount. I just don't want to see someone go to all the work and R &D and then blow the diff. Edd Rogers A Unistaff employee representing General Motors Sales Engineer MD Business Center 31 E Judson St Pontiac MI 48342 Ph: 248.874.3503 "James J." 01/12/2009 07:36 PM To edd.rogers at gm.com, mgb-v8 at autox.team.net cc Subject Re: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Miata rear end Edd, What does that mean? That one has to de-rate the drivetrain's max safe torque rating by 40% when calculating if it is strong enough for the MG, or are you describing some kind of clutch mechanism in the input of the rear differential that decouples/unlocks above a certain torque? If it's the former, we would also have to take in account the MG's light weight vs. a Rendezvous (~2500lbs vs. ~5000(?)). T-5 transmissions are typically rated at a much lower torque than they can actually handle in a British car. Does anyone know if it shares internals with another common design? V/R James. edd.rogers at gm.com wrote: > I don't believe that the Rendezvous rear is capable of full torque. It is > an AWD based off FWD set up. I think it only is designed for about 40% of > torque. > > > Edd Rogers > A Unistaff employee representing General Motors > Sales Engineer > MD Business Center > 31 E Judson St > Pontiac MI 48342 > Ph: 248.874.3503 From barrie at look.ca Wed Jan 14 10:43:48 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2009 12:43:48 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Ford identification Message-ID: Can anyone help me find out about an old British 8hp Ford probably 1929-35 vintage? I would like to know what model it was and what year. I have the numbers Engine Y33104 Chassis 35/20294 I was taught to drive on this car when I was 11 years old. My Dad had to put blocks on the pedals. Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Thu Jan 15 02:00:11 2009 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:00:11 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Ford identification References: Message-ID: <724F1663068448CF8F8301C53F916DDB@Three> This any good? http://www.motorbase.com/vehicle/by-id/-1460386257/ Found by Googling 'ford 8hp'! PaulH. ----- Original Message ----- Can anyone help me find out about an old British 8hp Ford probably 1929-35 vintage? From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Sat Jan 24 09:34:54 2009 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 16:34:54 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Name change Message-ID: NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can almost hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local managers. PaulH. From barrie at look.ca Sun Jan 25 10:09:04 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 12:09:04 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Name change In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have sent an email into them asking why no "s" - Suggest we all send in emails of protest At 11:34 AM 1/24/2009, Paul Hunt wrote: >NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - >http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html > >http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ > >Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can almost >hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local >managers. > >PaulH. >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Mgb-v8 mailing list > >You are subscribed as barrie at look.ca > >Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From m1garandusa at verizon.net Sun Jan 25 11:08:23 2009 From: m1garandusa at verizon.net (James J.) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 13:08:23 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Name change In-Reply-To: References:

Message-ID: <497CAA97.4040301@verizon.net> Maybe a simple explanation. Perhaps with the global recession, they only intend to manufacture 1 engine....... In all seriousness, though, have they done anything since buying the name? Was this a separate venture from the Chinese folks who were going to open a new MG line in the US? V/R James Barrie Robinson wrote: > I have sent an email into them asking why no "s" - Suggest we all send > in emails of protest > > > At 11:34 AM 1/24/2009, Paul Hunt wrote: >> NAC MG UK Ltd changes its name to MG Motor UK Ltd - >> http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2009/01/20/375484.html >> >> http://www.mgmotor.co.uk/ >> >> Doesn't sound right without the 's' i.e. MG Motors UK Ltd. You can >> almost >> hear the Chinese pronunciation, as if the Chinese bosses over-rode local >> managers. >> >> PaulH. >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Mgb-v8 mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as barrie at look.ca >> >> Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 > > Regards > Barrie > > Barrie Robinson > (705) 721-9060 > http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm > http://www.britcot.com _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mgb-v8 mailing list > > You are subscribed as m1garandusa at verizon.net > > Mgb-v8 at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mgb-v8 From barrie at look.ca Sun Jan 25 12:04:49 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:04:49 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Dash kits Message-ID: Has anyone bought a dash kit from Auto Car Image http://www.autocarimage.com? Or any other such supplier? If so - what quality was it? Thanks in advance for responses Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From barrie at look.ca Sun Jan 25 12:08:10 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sun, 25 Jan 2009 14:08:10 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Rover V8 thread Message-ID: Can anyone tell me what size and thread is on the Rover SD1 5-speed gear box shift lever where the knob goes? Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jan 26 01:45:15 2009 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:45:15 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Rover V8 thread References: Message-ID: <2D024014BF14472898ED98043B216B20@Three> On the end inside the cabin. (sorry Barrie, couldn't resist) ----- Original Message ----- Can anyone tell me ... on the Rover SD1 5-speed gear box shift lever where the knob goes? From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Jan 26 01:58:55 2009 From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt) Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009 08:58:55 -0000 Subject: [Mgb-v8] Name change References:

<497CAA97.4040301@verizon.net> Message-ID: Producing 'MG Roewe' saloons in China, shipped 500 TF kits to Longbridge for final assembly. http://www.huliq.com/3169/72068/saic-develop-class-models-roewe-mg ----- Original Message ----- In all seriousness, though, have they done anything since buying the name? From barrie at look.ca Sat Jan 31 13:45:52 2009 From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson) Date: Sat, 31 Jan 2009 15:45:52 -0500 Subject: [Mgb-v8] British Car Cottage Industries web site Message-ID: You may remember that a while back I started a web site called the "British Car Cottage Industries" or BCCI for short. I have diligently pursued its growth and now it seems to be getting, on average, 25 hits a day - not a lot but enough to be useful. What I have difficulty in is understanding the lack of response for participants/listers. I had the impression that there were dozens of people like myself who made something for our Brit cars but have such a low sales volume that advertising expenditure was not economically viable. But I have to virtually plead to get people on the site. Because of this low response I started the "Specialists List". This is for those commercially viable (and thus excluded from the cottagers list) concerns that are specialists or make/provide something in-house. I have found amazing people who have a thriving business in the run-of-the-mill products but make items they never even mention. So you can find this company that supplies all sorts of stuff but in the back they make distributor caps for lots of Brit vehicles and also have NOS ones. The idea of the Specialists List is to show those organisations who do do special work. How many times have you heard the plea "Do you know anybody who supplies/restores/ repairs X Y Z ". Such information is gold to us enthusiasts. For instance I needed my alternator and starter rebuilt for my 1955 Aston Martin, the local chap hummed and hawed and mumbled $750 each. By messaging the List I got a reply from a lister to use someone in California - I did - and got both done back into original cores (so numbers match) for $240 for BOTH !!! I am not exactly sure why I am blasting this off but I think I just want to vent my spleen (no, it's not steam!). If you know of anyone who fits the BCCI criteria please give them a buzz - NOT to me as I have enough to chase up. If you have not looked at the BCCI web site then please do so www.britcot.com. Regards Barrie Barrie Robinson (705) 721-9060 http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm http://www.britcot.com