From motorhead45 at juno.com  Mon Nov  3 13:52:36 2008
From: motorhead45 at juno.com (Greg A Myer)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 15:52:36 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] British V8 Newsletter
Message-ID: <20081103.155237.-100166269.0.motorhead45@juno.com>

Curtis has the new Newsletter online now.
I don't know how he does it.
It just keeps getting better !!
Nice job  Curtis  !
                                    Greg


http://www.britishv8.org/British-V8-Current-Issue.htm
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From bcmills at gmail.com  Mon Nov  3 18:26:11 2008
From: bcmills at gmail.com (Bruce)
Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 17:26:11 -0800
Subject: [Mgb-v8] British V8 Newsletter
References: <20081103.155237.-100166269.0.motorhead45@juno.com>
Message-ID: <003001c93e1c$52d18900$5a75cf18@yourw92p4bhlzg>

It's amazing isn't it


Bruce




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Greg A Myer" <motorhead45 at juno.com>
To: <mgb-v8 at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 12:52 PM
Subject: [Mgb-v8] British V8 Newsletter


> Curtis has the new Newsletter online now.
> I don't know how he does it.
> It just keeps getting better !!
> Nice job  Curtis  !
>                                    Greg
> 
> 
> http://www.britishv8.org/British-V8-Current-Issue.htm

From barrie at look.ca  Wed Nov  5 07:34:09 2008
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 09:34:09 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Fwd: 1936 Stainless Steel Ford
Message-ID: <E1Kxk8N-0008TV-FO@beta.look.ca>

>>----------
>>
>>
>> >
>> >> This is the 1936 Ford Tudor Sedan built for and owned by Allegheny Ludlum
>> >> Steel. This is 1 of only 4 in existence and is the only one currently in
>> >> running & in road worthy condition. The car is in exceptional condition,
>> >> with the interior and even the frame looking great. All 4 cars each had
>> >> over 200,000 miles on them before they removed them from service.
>> >
>> > These cars were built for Allegheny as promotional and marketing projects.
>> > The top salesmen each year were given the honor of being able to drive
>> > them
>> > for one year. The v-8 engine (max 85 hp) ran like a sewing machine and was
>> > surprisingly smooth and quite. I thought this was a much better looking
>> > automobile than the Ford Thunderbird that visited us last year. FYI, the
>> > car was insured (we were told) for the trip to Louisville via covered
>> > trailer
>> > for 1.5 million dollars.
>> >
>> > We were also told that the dies were ruined by stamping the stainless car
>> > parts,making these the last of these cars ever produced. More information
>> > of the history on these automobiles can be found at Allegheny Ludlum's
>> > website
>> > 
>> <http://www.alleghenyludlum.com/pages/companyinfo/stainlesscars.asp>http://www.alleghenyludlum.com/pages/companyinfo/stainlesscars.asp
>> > http://www.alleghenyludlum.com/pages/companyinfo/stainlesscars.asp
>> >
>>
>>
>>----------
>>
>
>Regards
>Barrie
>
>Barrie Robinson
>(705) 721-9060
>http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
>http://www.britcot.com 

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From mark at bradakis.com  Wed Nov  5 21:37:28 2008
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2008 21:37:28 -0700
Subject: [Mgb-v8] [Mgs] Fwd: 1936 Stainless Steel Ford
In-Reply-To: <E1Kxk8N-0008TV-FO@beta.look.ca>
References: <E1Kxk8N-0008TV-FO@beta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <49127488.2090806@bradakis.com>

The email server does not allow attachments such as pictures.  If you go
to http://www.team.net/forums and register, you can post photos
and such there.

mjb.

From barrie at look.ca  Sun Nov  9 08:48:26 2008
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Sun, 09 Nov 2008 10:48:26 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] British Car Cottage Industries
Message-ID: <E1KzG57-0002LX-RF@delta.look.ca>

I am a little disappointed with the lack of participants on the BCCI 
web site.   It takes ages to get people to join the group.  But there 
are some interesting bits and pieces and it slowly expands.  Hit rate 
is growing and coming from all corners of the earth.  So if you know 
anyone who qualifies please give me their 
address.  However................This is not the purpose of this 
missive.......I have found quite a few larger than cottage sized 
operations who specialise in a particular marque or part.  For 
instance, I know of an outfit that makes valves, and only valves (he 
made stainless steel valves for my Aston!)......another who makes 
distributor caps and has spares for obscure vehicles.  So my thinking 
is that maybe I should have a section that lists these specialists - 
not the generalists like Moss (who are great but do not do obscure 
stuff).   I was going to send my head (okay, okay resist jokes) away 
to be flowed, ported etc. but by accident found a chap two miles away 
who is renowned all over the world as an ace head man (again, no jokes please).

The people listed would be only involved in a special area, so while 
the Aston Service-Dorset people could be listed as they ONLY do 
Astons earlier than the DB 4.
BUT Kevin Kay Restorations would not qualify as they restore 
literally anything.

So I need some input here.  Does this sound like a good idea to you?

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
(705) 721-9060
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
http://www.britcot.com 

From edd.rogers at gm.com  Mon Nov 10 06:05:16 2008
From: edd.rogers at gm.com (edd.rogers at gm.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2008 08:05:16 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] British Car Cottage Industries
In-Reply-To: <E1KzG57-0002LX-RF@delta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <OF720F2E83.1A600EFC-ON852574FD.0047DFA3-852574FD.0047EFD2@gm.com>

Great idea, Barrie.


Edd Rogers
A Unistaff employee representing General Motors
Sales Engineer
MD Business Center
31 E Judson St
Pontiac MI  48342
Ph:  248.874.3503



Barrie Robinson <barrie at look.ca> 
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11/09/2008 10:48 AM

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Subject
[Mgb-v8] British Car Cottage Industries






I am a little disappointed with the lack of participants on the BCCI 
web site.   It takes ages to get people to join the group.  But there 
are some interesting bits and pieces and it slowly expands.  Hit rate 
is growing and coming from all corners of the earth.  So if you know 
anyone who qualifies please give me their 
address.  However................This is not the purpose of this 
missive.......I have found quite a few larger than cottage sized 
operations who specialise in a particular marque or part.  For 
instance, I know of an outfit that makes valves, and only valves (he 
made stainless steel valves for my Aston!)......another who makes 
distributor caps and has spares for obscure vehicles.  So my thinking 
is that maybe I should have a section that lists these specialists - 
not the generalists like Moss (who are great but do not do obscure 
stuff).   I was going to send my head (okay, okay resist jokes) away 
to be flowed, ported etc. but by accident found a chap two miles away 
who is renowned all over the world as an ace head man (again, no jokes 
please).

The people listed would be only involved in a special area, so while 
the Aston Service-Dorset people could be listed as they ONLY do 
Astons earlier than the DB 4.
BUT Kevin Kay Restorations would not qualify as they restore 
literally anything.

So I need some input here.  Does this sound like a good idea to you?

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
(705) 721-9060
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
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From barrie at look.ca  Thu Nov 13 08:49:19 2008
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 10:49:19 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Specialists
Message-ID: <E1L0eRl-0000S9-SS@delta.look.ca>

I don't know about you chaps but I am constantly amazed at the number 
of "specialists" out there that are not generally known.  I have 
found an outfit in this Province who makes valves - He made the 
complete set of valves in stainless steel for my 1955 Aston at half 
the price for ordinary ones from the "normal" supply source.   I had 
my generator and starter rebuilt at another "specialist" for an 
unbelievably reasonably low price,  I have just discovered a UK 
outfit that remanufactures distributor caps for all Lucas units.  So 
there are quite a few of these people who do great stuff but cannot 
qualify for the British Car Cottage Industries web site as they are a 
commercial  concern

SO I am starting a section on the BCCI web site for these 
people.  The criteria are that the work/product must be made by them 
and is not a bought in item for resale.  It must be outside the realm 
of "consumer products" - so a tire manufacturer, windscreen washer 
fluid, or oil supplier would not qualify.  The concern must have, 
currently, a low profile so while someone like Moss makes unique and 
desirable products (supercharger etc) they would not qualify as their 
promotional effort is huge.

VALVES
              Bing Bong Blast Inc. makes both inlet and exhaust 
valves for modern and classic cars from samples.

REAR PLASTIC LENSES
              CeeMeGo Inc offers reproduction plastic lenses for rear 
lights for British cars.

MGB SUSPENSION
              Bob Upandown Ltd, UK, can supply coil over spring front 
suspension for most MGBs.

(The listings will be in alphabetical order!)


If you know anyone who would fit into the Specialist section please 
send me contact details.



Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
(705) 721-9060
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
http://www.britcot.com 

From barrie at look.ca  Fri Nov 28 14:26:01 2008
From: barrie at look.ca (Barrie Robinson)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:26:01 -0500
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Voltage stabiliser
Message-ID: <E1L6As0-0004Ro-9b@theta.look.ca>

As a result of reading "How to replace your MGB's Thermal Voltage 
Stabiliser" from the British V8 Magazine, I delved into the subject - 
well, I had no beer, there was snow on the ground, the Maserati would 
not start, the jet was being serviced........and my butler and cook 
had the day off, so can you blame me?

It would seem that the circuit as described in the article is a bit 
short and would be subject to erratic behaviour under certain 
circumstances.  My circuit has double bypass filters using both 
electrolytic and ceramic capacitors.  The components are so damn 
cheap so overkill is not a problem.   However, I have to make a unit 
to fit inside the original casing and I do not have a spare close 
by.  Can anyone give me the inside dimensions of the casing 
please?.  Or, if anyone has a dud one I would gladly give you a 
couple of dollars, plus postage, for it.

Regards
Barrie

Barrie Robinson
(705) 721-9060
http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
http://www.britcot.com  

From Theo.Smit at dynastream.com  Fri Nov 28 15:20:44 2008
From: Theo.Smit at dynastream.com (Smit, Theo)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:20:44 -0700
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Voltage stabiliser
References: <E1L6As0-0004Ro-9b@theta.look.ca>
Message-ID: <60FEBF2884916145962401D18221D157C5F4D5@dsimail.ad.garmin.com>

I've built a couple of these using the LM2940 and you absolutely MUST
have at least the recommended capacitance on the output, or else the
output voltage will be incorrect. Low-dropout regulators (unlike the
old-school 78xx regulators) are not unconditionally stable so you need
the external capacitors - it's the price you pay for the low-dropout
function. The older regulators such as the 7810 require about two to
three volts of headroom to regulate properly (i.e. the ignition voltage
has to be at least 12 and preferably over 13 volts), and that's close
enough to the normal range of the car's electrical system that it's
better to use the 2940. A good feature of the LM2940 is that these parts
were developed for the automotive industry and they are designed to be
proof against most known electrical system issues in cars: Doubled
battery voltage (up to +26 volts), reverse-polarity (-12 volts),
alternator load dump (a 100 volt transient) and other inductive-load
transients.

Barrie, I have a couple of those instrument stabilizer cans at home...
I'll have to measure one up.

I actually have a PCB layout finished for a 'proper' replacement of the
stabilizer that includes all required components plus a low-voltage
alert LED, which could be used to replace the charge light. This is
primarily aimed at the Tiger market, where the OEM generator gets
replaced with an alternator that may or may not have a charge-light
indication output. So the LED is 'on' unless the ignition voltage is
over about 12.7 volts.

I just have to get around to ordering the boards and building some up.
The electronics fit in a can that is larger than original, but mounts
and connects using the OEM hardware.

Cheers,
Theo

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:mgb-v8-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Barrie Robinson
> Sent: November 28, 2008 2:26 PM
> To: mgb-v8 at autox.team.net; mgs at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Mgb-v8] Voltage stabiliser
>
<snip>
>
> It would seem that the circuit as described in the article is
> a bit short and would be subject to erratic behaviour under
> certain circumstances.  My circuit has double bypass filters
> using both electrolytic and ceramic capacitors.  The
> components are so damn
> cheap so overkill is not a problem.   However, I have to make a unit
> to fit inside the original casing and I do not have a spare
> close by.  Can anyone give me the inside dimensions of the
> casing please?.  Or, if anyone has a dud one I would gladly
> give you a couple of dollars, plus postage, for it.
>
> Regards
> Barrie
>
> Barrie Robinson
> (705) 721-9060
> http://www.britishv8.org/MG/BarrieRobinson.htm
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From v8mgb at yahoo.com  Fri Nov 28 20:29:02 2008
From: v8mgb at yahoo.com (Jim)
Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:29:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Voltage stabiliser
Message-ID: <581367.53258.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Barrie: the filter caps are not needed. A noisy circuit is ok in this applacation. The gauges don't care.

Jim Miller

Sent from my iPod

On Nov 28, 2008, at 4:26 PM, Barrie Robinson <barrie at look.ca> wrote:

As a result of reading "How to replace your MGB's Thermal Voltage Stabiliser" from the British V8 Magazine, I delved into the subject - well, I had no beer, there was snow on the ground, the Maserati would not start, the jet was being serviced........and my butler and cook had the day off, so can you blame me?

It would seem that the circuit as described in the article is a bit short and would be subject to erratic behaviour under certain circumstances.  My circuit has double bypass filters using both electrolytic and ceramic capacitors.  The components are so damn cheap so overkill is not a problem.   However, I have to make a unit to fit inside the original casing and I do not have a spare close by.  Can anyone give me the inside dimensions of the casing please?.  Or, if anyone has a dud one I would gladly give you a couple of dollars, plus postage, for it.

Regards
Barrie

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From paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk  Sun Nov 30 08:09:17 2008
From: paul.hunt1 at blueyonder.co.uk (Paul Hunt)
Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:09:17 -0000
Subject: [Mgb-v8] Voltage stabiliser
References: <581367.53258.qm@web52911.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <7EF41B177A184094A8E4F540A21B326C@Three>

And if you are thinking about the suppressor attached to the
electro-mechanical that was to prevent radiated interference affecting *other*
systems, again nothing to do with the gauges.  The original system switched
the system voltage i.e. up to 14.5v on and off about once per second, to
*average* about 10v, it is that impervious to instantaneous variation.
Incidentally an electronic system that provides a stabilised 10v immediately
after switch-on will result in slower gauge rise times than the original
system, which applied full system voltage for several seconds after
switch-on.

PaulH.
  ----- Original Message -----
  Barrie: the filter caps are not needed. A noisy circuit is ok in this
applacation. The gauges don't care.