<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Well, at least you didn’t claim they were based on acetic values. Vinegar would corrode the metal.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“The enthusiast may not be able to tell Gothic from Romanesque, Soutine from Giotto, but he can talk for half an hour about the aesthetic inferiority of the TF to the TC.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">—Randall Jarrell, “Go, Man, Go!”</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 4, 2016, at 10:14 AM, Clive Sherriff <<a href="mailto:clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com" class="">clive.sherriff@ntlworld.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);" class=""><font face="Arial" class=""><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">I smile a lot (or am I gritting my teeth ?) about the question of originality.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Go to a premier vintage event and look at the cars. Immaculate. Now go to the archives and look at what they were like new.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">This is particularly evident with race cars. Look at the immaculate Maseratis, Silver Arrows Mercedes and Auto Unions today for example. Then do the photo search for then on the 1930s. Pooly finished and dented bodies, occasionally even unpainted ( Merceded once had to strip the paint and masses of filler underneath to meet a weight limit at one race !</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Years ago before TABC Bodies were readily available, I carefully measured up every original car that came through the workshop thinking to reproduce them. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">There were large differences in the dimensions of the body panels and woodwork. I decided it was not worth the bother, and soon after Naylors started making bodies and I ducked out.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Even something as apparently simple as the late TA TB TC rear wings are not the same, the prewar ones are much different to the TC type in many ways. Hard to see if you dont know the difference, and all that are available today are the late TC ones. And this applies to many other parts. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">This does make a difference though even if you don't know it. Most people even if they know nothing of MGs will, from a frontal line up of Late TA TB and TCs will select the TA and TBs as the nicer looking cars. They will not be able to tell you why. It's due to the cutaway of the front wings, greatly reduced on the TC to a) save money and b) supposedly to cut down rain spray. The TA/TB were designed form Ascetic values, the TC from economic values. Many ta/tb owners will have TC front and wings and not know it.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">If you want to drive about in a tarted up concours trailer queen then do it and enjoy it, but most of these tarted up concours cars should have points deducted for non original finish.</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">Clive</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class="">= ==== ============= ================</font></div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><div class=""><font face="Arial" class=""></font> </div><blockquote style="border-left-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); border-left-width: 2px; border-left-style: solid; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;" class="" type="cite"><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class="">----- Original Message -----<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial; background-color: rgb(228, 228, 228); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;" class=""><b class="">From:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mg-tabc-noreply@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:norman@frenchblat.com%20[mg-tabc]" class="">'Norman Verona' norman@frenchblat.com [mg-tabc]</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mark.robinson250gt@btinternet.com" href="mailto:mark.robinson250gt@btinternet.com" class="">mark.robinson250gt@btinternet.com</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="ncgolm@gmail.com" href="mailto:ncgolm@gmail.com" class="">'Norman Golm'</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>;<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="notify-dg-mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:notify-dg-mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" class="">notify-dg-mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a title="mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" href="mailto:mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com" class="">mg-tabc@yahoogroups.com</a></div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Friday, March 04, 2016 1:15 PM</div><div style="font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-family: arial;" class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [mg-tabc] Digest Number 7547</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div id="ygrp-mlmsg" style="position: relative;" class=""><div id="ygrp-msg" style="z-index: 1;" class=""><div id="ygrp-text" class=""><div class=""><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;" class="">So, we should refer to TC's Forever. Isn't that all about getting the car as original as possible? Is this the answer to the argument?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o class=""></o></span></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 12pt;" class=""><o class=""></o></span></div><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal"><b class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 14pt;" class="">Norman Verona<o class=""></o></span></b></div><div class="MsoNormal"><u class=""><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 14pt;" class="">La Foie, 49520, Noellet, France<o class=""></o></span></u></div><div class="MsoNormal"><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 14pt;" class="">Tel: 0033 (0)2 41 92 73 44</span></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></font></div><span style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; 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