From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Sun Sep  4 15:48:57 2011
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:48:57 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
Message-ID: <BD25859492944651813A548C3CC675E4@ranteer.local>

I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the TD is the
same as for the TF

From lawrie at britcars.com  Sun Sep  4 16:24:57 2011
From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 15:24:57 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
References: <BD25859492944651813A548C3CC675E4@ranteer.local>
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It certainly is ........

Lawrie
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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights


>I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the TD is the
> same as for the TF
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Sun Sep  4 16:37:22 2011
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 17:37:22 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
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Should be. Number 1157.

Lew Palmer

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Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:49 PM
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Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights

I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the TD is the
same as for the TF
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From feold3 at mac.com  Sun Sep  4 16:45:20 2011
From: feold3 at mac.com (Chip Old)
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:45:20 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
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On Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 05:48 PM EDT, oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
wrote to MGT <mg-t at autox.team.net>:

> I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the
> TD is the same as for the TF

It depends on the age of the TD. Early TDs use brake/tail lamp bulbs with symmetrical bayonet pins (Lucas 189). Later TDs and the TF use bulbs with offset pins (Lucas 361). Sorry, I don't have the numbers for US equivalents handy.

-- 
Chip Old <feold3 at mac.com>
Cub Hill, Maryland, US
1948 M.G. TC TC6710  XPAG7430

From mgbob at juno.com  Sun Sep  4 18:17:55 2011
From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com)
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 00:17:55 GMT
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
Message-ID: <20110904.201755.9768.0@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com>

If it is the bulb for a round-lens TD, consider using an LED from
Superbrightleds.  If will not work in the early TD tail lamp, but it is a very
bright tail light and instant-on brake light that is more visible to the
following driver than an 1157.
Bob

---------- Original Message ----------
From: Chip Old <feold3 at mac.com>
To: MGT <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] T tail lights
Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:45:20 -0400

On Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 05:48 PM EDT, oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
wrote to MGT <mg-t at autox.team.net>:

> I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the

> TD is the same as for the TF

It depends on the age of the TD. Early TDs use brake/tail lamp bulbs with
symmetrical bayonet pins (Lucas 189). Later TDs and the TF use bulbs with
offset pins (Lucas 361). Sorry, I don't have the numbers for US equivalents
handy.

--
Chip Old <feold3 at mac.com>
Cub Hill, Maryland, US
1948 M.G. TC TC6710  XPAG7430
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From anngene at bellsouth.net  Sun Sep  4 18:47:22 2011
From: anngene at bellsouth.net (anngene at bellsouth.net)
Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:47:22 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] [Bulk]  T tail lights
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References: <BD25859492944651813A548C3CC675E4@ranteer.local>
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Tell your friend that Moss Motors catalog is his friend.
http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32988
The later TD's and the TF's used the same bulb.
The early TD's used a different one.
Gene


--------------------------------------------------
From: "oliver" <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Sunday, September 04, 2011 4:48 PM
To: "MGT" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Bulk] [Mg-t] T tail lights

> I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the TD is the
> same as for the TF
> ______________________________________________
>
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From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Mon Sep  5 23:15:44 2011
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (John Deikis)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 01:15:44 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
In-Reply-To: <20110904.201755.9768.0@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110904.201755.9768.0@webmail-beta02.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <490CBEC9-30E1-43D6-BF44-CA12C66AD897@gmail.com>

Bob,
Do you know for sure that the Superbright product will fit into the  rather
deep TD 1157 tail lamp base? I bought a set of 1157 LED units from a different
source and top of the bulb ( the mushroom part) interferes.
JohnD
Still Playing with Little Cars
www.johnsfolly.webs.com


On Sep 5, 2011, at 12:17 AM, "mgbob at juno.com" <mgbob at juno.com> wrote:

> If it is the bulb for a round-lens TD, consider using an LED from
> Superbrightleds.  If will not work in the early TD tail lamp, but it is a
very
> bright tail light and instant-on brake light that is more visible to the
> following driver than an 1157.
> Bob
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: Chip Old <feold3 at mac.com>
> To: MGT <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] T tail lights
> Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2011 18:45:20 -0400
>
> On Sun Sep 04, 2011 at 05:48 PM EDT, oliver <sumton at sbcglobal.net>
> wrote to MGT <mg-t at autox.team.net>:
>
>> I have a friend who needs to know if the brakelight bulb for the
>
>> TD is the same as for the TF
>
> It depends on the age of the TD. Early TDs use brake/tail lamp bulbs with
> symmetrical bayonet pins (Lucas 189). Later TDs and the TF use bulbs with
> offset pins (Lucas 361). Sorry, I don't have the numbers for US equivalents
> handy.
>
> --
> Chip Old <feold3 at mac.com>
> Cub Hill, Maryland, US
> 1948 M.G. TC TC6710  XPAG7430
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From mgbob at juno.com  Tue Sep  6 09:34:45 2011
From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 15:34:45 GMT
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
Message-ID: <20110906.113445.22392.4@webmail12.vgs.untd.com>

Hi John,
   Yes, they fit and are in the car now. It's close, but no closer than the
1157s.
   The tail-lights are the original castings and lenses.  Perhaps
reproductions differ slightly, or other LEDs are shaped differently, but these
are just right.
    I have stacks of receipts for this car, back into 1954, but as luck would
have it, I can't find the Superbright receipt for the model # to give you.
Bob

---------- Original Message ----------
From: John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
To: "mgbob at juno.com" <mgbob at juno.com>
Cc: "feold3 at mac.com" <feold3 at mac.com>, "mg-t at autox.team.net"
<mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] T tail lights
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 01:15:44 -0400

Bob,
Do you know for sure that the Superbright product will fit into the  rather
deep TD 1157 tail lamp base? I bought a set of 1157 LED units from a different
source and top of the bulb ( the mushroom part) interferes.
JohnD
Still Playing with Little Cars
www.johnsfolly.webs.com

From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Tue Sep  6 09:53:16 2011
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:53:16 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] T tail lights
In-Reply-To: <20110906.113445.22392.4@webmail12.vgs.untd.com>
References: <20110906.113445.22392.4@webmail12.vgs.untd.com>
Message-ID: <84F285BA7E334C489C69B2E4658E6783@ranteer.local>

litezupp (http://www.litezupp.com/) makes led tail lights for TD's.  I have 
them in my 52, positive ground, and they are very bright.  they are a small 
outfit here in Texas.  highly recommended!

you can contact one of the partners directly at jimt at ieee.org.

--------------------------------------------------
From: <mgbob at juno.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 10:34 AM
To: <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
Cc: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] T tail lights

> Hi John,
>   Yes, they fit and are in the car now. It's close, but no closer than the
> 1157s.
>   The tail-lights are the original castings and lenses.  Perhaps
> reproductions differ slightly, or other LEDs are shaped differently, but 
> these
> are just right.
>    I have stacks of receipts for this car, back into 1954, but as luck 
> would
> have it, I can't find the Superbright receipt for the model # to give you.
> Bob
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: John Deikis <johnsfolly at gmail.com>
> To: "mgbob at juno.com" <mgbob at juno.com>
> Cc: "feold3 at mac.com" <feold3 at mac.com>, "mg-t at autox.team.net"
> <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] T tail lights
> Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 01:15:44 -0400
>
> Bob,
> Do you know for sure that the Superbright product will fit into the 
> rather
> deep TD 1157 tail lamp base? I bought a set of 1157 LED units from a 
> different
> source and top of the bulb ( the mushroom part) interferes.
> JohnD
> Still Playing with Little Cars
> www.johnsfolly.webs.com 

From scvc70 at epix.net  Tue Sep 13 15:27:50 2011
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:27:50 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?
Message-ID: <65AE1C926409415291A19E184E7C4973@valuedea617bbe>

We have a puzzle before us:

We're in the process of a full rebuild on my TD engine (XPAG/TD2/22791, which
had an early, banana-holes head installed by a DPO), using a (correct)
round-holes head from an even later XPAG.  The replacement head needs a new
rocker shaft.  The rocker shaft that was on the replacement head measures 14"
-- but according to the Moss catalog, the later engines take a 14-7/8" shaft.

Did some DPO install an incorrect shaft in the replacement head, or is the
Moss catalog wrong?

Help!
Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA

From scvc70 at epix.net  Tue Sep 13 15:28:37 2011
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 17:28:37 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats
Message-ID: <DEB58FADC545491E931E41970A5E4711@valuedea617bbe>

Anybody know if there's a source for hardened valve seats for XPAGs?

Sararh Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA

From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Tue Sep 13 17:06:33 2011
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (BOB GRUNAU)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:06:33 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?
In-Reply-To: <65AE1C926409415291A19E184E7C4973@valuedea617bbe>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP61AA690EA8134D8AEE282F92050@phx.gbl>

No puzzle at all. Answer depends on the eight rockers used.
Early rockers were wide on the four intake rockers, narrower on the four
exhaust rockers, and used the 14" shaft.
Late rockers were all wide, same width as the early intakes, and therefore
needed the 14 -7/8" rocker shaft.

So I assume since the early head had the 14" shaft, it will have narrow
exhaust rockers . It will fit either banana head or round hole head.

Moss is right, late heads used 14-7/8" shafts, and wide rockers.

Bob Grunau, Canada.



-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Carr&Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 5:28 PM
To: MG-T list
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?


We have a puzzle before us:

We're in the process of a full rebuild on my TD engine (XPAG/TD2/22791,
which
had an early, banana-holes head installed by a DPO), using a (correct)
round-holes head from an even later XPAG.  The replacement head needs a new
rocker shaft.  The rocker shaft that was on the replacement head measures
14"
-- but according to the Moss catalog, the later engines take a 14-7/8"
shaft.

Did some DPO install an incorrect shaft in the replacement head, or is the
Moss catalog wrong?

Help!
Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA
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From lawrie at britcars.com  Tue Sep 13 17:23:52 2011
From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:23:52 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats
References: <DEB58FADC545491E931E41970A5E4711@valuedea617bbe>
Message-ID: <26B45BB41AA64AC991AFD92684F16B96@shop>

Definitely available, Sarah. My machine shop installs them in every head 
that I have done.

Lawrie
British Sportscar Center
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To: "MG-T list" <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:28 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats


> Anybody know if there's a source for hardened valve seats for XPAGs?
>
> Sararh Carr
> TD3942EXLU in PA
> ______________________________________________
>
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From lawrie at britcars.com  Tue Sep 13 17:26:35 2011
From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 16:26:35 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?
References: <65AE1C926409415291A19E184E7C4973@valuedea617bbe>
Message-ID: <D49672AE7AC7433F8B2E1F652C72F38A@shop>

Sarah,

Both rocker assemblies fit both heads. The difference is that on later cars 
some of the rocker arms were wider where they pivot on the shaft, so longer 
shafts were needed to accommodate the extra total length. If you have a 
short shaft, you have the smaller rockers so should order the appropriate 
new shaft.

BTW, after all the years they have been in business, there aren't many 
mistakes left in the Moss catalog!!!

Cheers,

Lawrie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Carr&Edwards" <scvc70 at epix.net>
To: "MG-T list" <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 2:27 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?


> We have a puzzle before us:
>
> We're in the process of a full rebuild on my TD engine (XPAG/TD2/22791, 
> which
> had an early, banana-holes head installed by a DPO), using a (correct)
> round-holes head from an even later XPAG.  The replacement head needs a 
> new
> rocker shaft.  The rocker shaft that was on the replacement head measures 
> 14"
> -- but according to the Moss catalog, the later engines take a 14-7/8" 
> shaft.
>
> Did some DPO install an incorrect shaft in the replacement head, or is the
> Moss catalog wrong?
>
> Help!
> Sarah Carr
> TD3942EXLU in PA
> ______________________________________________
>
> Mg-t at autox.team.net
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Tue Sep 13 18:49:33 2011
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2011 19:49:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats
In-Reply-To: <DEB58FADC545491E931E41970A5E4711@valuedea617bbe>
References: <DEB58FADC545491E931E41970A5E4711@valuedea617bbe>
Message-ID: <023d01cc7278$2b7ce870$8276b950$@com>

Any competent engine machine shop should be able to supply the correct
hardened seats.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Carr&Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 4:29 PM
To: MG-T list
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats

Anybody know if there's a source for hardened valve seats for XPAGs?

Sararh Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA
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From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Wed Sep 14 02:15:49 2011
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 09:15:49 +0100
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats
References: <DEB58FADC545491E931E41970A5E4711@valuedea617bbe>
Message-ID: <06BDDE23C5C1431C9B231E3936EACC63@cypress>

Widely available, though if you have fitted oversized valves as per the 
special tuning specifications - you need a specially narrow seat or you 
could machine through into the waterway passages.   I think Peter Edney has 
these available'

Clive
Oxford UK
==================================
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Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2011 10:28 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] valve seats


> Anybody know if there's a source for hardened valve seats for XPAGs?
>
> Sararh Carr
> TD3942EXLU in PA
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From crownwheel at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 12:33:59 2011
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:59 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
Message-ID: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>

Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not a
techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
follows:

 

Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top of
one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.

Who can help me with this problem?

 

Thanks

Cheers

Vermont

Gene

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Thu Sep 15 15:19:16 2011
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:19:16 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
In-Reply-To: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
References: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W13E7F3F382DA262E4FE07EB7070@phx.gbl>

Gene,
Never had the experience, but it sure sounds like there's a float-related
problem - like gas in the float or an improperly adjusted valve tab on the
float.  Or less likely, grit in the valve.
In fact, I've never had fuel come out of the overflow tubes.  I'm going to bet
on the improperly adjusted tab - it seems unlikely that both floats would have
gas in them, though it is possible  I'm pretty sure the adjustment for the tab
is explained thoroughly in the manual, but basically you just bend it so it
shuts the gas off when the float bowl is full, IIRC.  Should be a simple job
(har, har).

-Mike Eldred
Wilmington, VT





> From: crownwheel at comcast.net
> To: mg-t at autox.team.net
> Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:59 -0400
> Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
>
> Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not a
> techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top
of
> one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.
>
> Who can help me with this problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
>
> Vermont
>
> Gene
> ______________________________________________
>
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From anngene at bellsouth.net  Thu Sep 15 15:22:26 2011
From: anngene at bellsouth.net (anngene at bellsouth.net)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 16:22:26 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] [Bulk]  over problem
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Sounds like either the float in the carburetor has filled with gas and sunk 
to the bottom or there is something keeping the float valve in the top of 
the carburetor from closing...either of these will keep the fuel from 
shutting off to the carburetor and cause it to come out of the overflow tube 
when the float bowl is full.  Take the cover off the float bowl and 
check...it'll be a simple fix.  Should be piece number 5 or 6 in this Moss 
diagram http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32749
Best regards,
Gene Gillam
Saucier, MS

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From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:33 PM
To: "mg-t net" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Bulk] [Mg-t] over problem

> Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not 
> a
> techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top 
> of
> one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.
>
> Who can help me with this problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
>
> Vermont
>
> Gene

From mgbob at juno.com  Thu Sep 15 15:30:04 2011
From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 21:30:04 GMT
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
Message-ID: <20110915.173004.29590.0@webmail-beta01.vgs.untd.com>

Hi Gene,
   Assuming that the fuel pump(s) is original type SU,  the overflow problem
is probably a sticking float needle in the top of the float chamber, or a
sinking float.
   First thing to do, and it may be final thing to do, it to give the top of
the float chamber a rap with the handle of a screwdriver.  That will usually
unstick the sticking needle.
   If that fails to stop the overflow and the click of the pump immediately,
friend should lift off the top of the float chamber and have a look at things.
This is described in section B.12 of the workshop manual.
   Sticking float needles are not all that infrequent, and they seem to be
sticking more with today's fuel than they did a decade back. The copper
overflow tubes guide the overflowing fuel away from the exhaust manifold.
Bob



---------- Original Message ----------
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
To: "mg-t net" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:33:59 -0400

Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not a
techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
follows:



Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top of
one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.

Who can help me with this problem?



Thanks

Cheers

Vermont

Gene
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From jquilter at peoplepc.com  Thu Sep 15 15:40:29 2011
From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John F. Quilter)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 14:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
References: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
Message-ID: <6C30D89CD4C74307AA729C89C4E7E145@JQLT070909>

I would suspect a stuck float needle valve.  One carb may discharge more 
than the other if both valves are stuck open as one carb is nearer the line 
from the fuel pump.  Try knocking on the top of the float bowls to free up 
the stuck valves.

John Quilter
Eugene, Oregon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
To: "mg-t net" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:33 AM
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem


> Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not 
> a
> techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top 
> of
> one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.
>
> Who can help me with this problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
>
> Vermont
>
> Gene
> ______________________________________________
>
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Thu Sep 15 16:01:43 2011
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:01:43 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
In-Reply-To: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
References: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
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The float in the overflowing float bowl is either stuck or the needle valve
has malfunctioned.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:34 PM
To: mg-t net
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem

Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not a
techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
follows:

 

Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top of
one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.

Who can help me with this problem?

 

Thanks

Cheers

Vermont

Gene
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From scvc70 at epix.net  Thu Sep 15 17:08:40 2011
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 19:08:40 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
References: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
Message-ID: <E35513F5CEBB48A2A61B3DE3167F1064@valuedea617bbe>

Check the float - it may have developed a leak and taken in gas, making it 
sink and therefore not shut off the fuel supply (we had this happen with our 
TF some years ago).

Easy way of checking:  remove float; put in freezer for a few hours; remove 
and immediately submerge in a pan of HOT water.  Escaping bubbles--as the 
cold air inside it expands--will show you where the leak is.  Then drill out 
hole, drain out gas, and re-solder.  Or just buy a new one.

Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
To: "mg-t net" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 2:33 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem


> Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not 
> a
> techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top 
> of
> one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.
>
> Who can help me with this problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
>
> Vermont
>
> Gene

From spook01 at comcast.net  Thu Sep 15 18:07:07 2011
From: spook01 at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 20:07:07 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] =?utf-8?q?=5BBulk=5D__over_problem?=
Message-ID: <20110916000710.E2367187675@autox.team.net>

Might be a float valve stuck.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: anngene at bellsouth.net
To: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>, <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Mg-t] [Bulk]  over problem
Date: Thu, Sep 15, 2011 17:22


Sounds like either the float in the carburetor has filled with gas and sunk to the bottom or there is something keeping the float valve in the top of the carburetor from closing...either of these will keep the fuel from shutting off to the carburetor and cause it to come out of the overflow tube when the float bowl is full.  Take the cover off the float bowl and check...it'll be a simple fix.  Should be piece number 5 or 6 in this Moss diagram http://www.mossmotors.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=32749
Best regards,
Gene Gillam
Saucier, MS

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 1:33 PM
To: "mg-t net" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Bulk] [Mg-t] over problem

> Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. I am not > a
> techie, so I am wondering if any of you have answer to his question as
> follows:
>
>
>
> Am having fairly steady gas flow coming out over flow copper tubes on top > of
> one carb more than other which has not happened before that I know of.
>
> Who can help me with this problem?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Cheers
>
> Vermont
>
> Gene
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From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 16 09:27:42 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:27:42 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?
In-Reply-To: <D49672AE7AC7433F8B2E1F652C72F38A@shop>
References: <65AE1C926409415291A19E184E7C4973@valuedea617bbe>
	<D49672AE7AC7433F8B2E1F652C72F38A@shop>
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<< *BTW, after all the years they have been in business, there
aren't many mistakes left in the Moss catalog!!!*  >>

But Lawrie, is the 'thumb' [ or 'big toe' ] GONE ?!?!?!?!?

Anon

PS:  Yep, I know:  Stir, stir, stir, ................. ! ! !
PPS:  I used both "digits" as I have heard BOTH used to
         describe !?!?!?

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Sep 16 09:42:36 2011
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 10:42:36 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
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Gene............

<< Listers, I received this question form a fellow T'er in Vermont. >>

The very FIRST [1st] question that NEEDS to be 'answered'
PRIOR to replying with [everybody so far] the 'auto' answer of
"Stuck Float":   WHAT carb[s]?,  how MANY carbs?,  what Fuel
Pump [and where mounted?]?,   'bone stock' motor "guts" and
"Specs"?,   and etc.???      --- PICK one <G> ?!?!?!?!??  Also, are
we to "assume" that this 'problem' involves a "T" Car ?!?!?!??

Just remember what ASSUME means <G> ! !

Ed
1]  Please visit MY site at:               www.justbrits.com
2]  Please visit Frank C.'s site at:   www.spritenut.com

From ddubois at sinclair.net  Fri Sep 16 12:02:02 2011
From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:02:02 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] over problem
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References: <004f01cc73d6$096e9760$1c4bc620$@net>
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Being somewhere in the Pacific off Vancouver Island on the return leg of 
a cruise cruise to Alaska, I am responding late to the latest query.  
Gene, Iam going to refer you to the article, Float Lever Drop Adjustment 
in the Other Tech Articles section of my web site at: 
http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/   This is an entirely different 
adjustment from the one in the one printed in the workshop manual and 
deals with the situation where the float lever drops so far down that 
the needle gets jammed against the float lever, making it impossible for 
the float to push the lever (and thus the needle) up to shut off the 
flow of fuel.  Cheers - Dave

From lawrie at britcars.com  Fri Sep 16 12:37:58 2011
From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander)
Date: Fri, 16 Sep 2011 11:37:58 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?
References: <65AE1C926409415291A19E184E7C4973@valuedea617bbe><D49672AE7AC7433F8B2E1F652C72F38A@shop>
	<4E736AEE.30002@justbrits.com>
Message-ID: <3E25E6C1549B485FB755776F27178E29@shop>

Nope, the big toe is still there ......... !

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Shop at " Just Brits "" <shop at justbrits.com>
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Sent: Friday, September 16, 2011 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] rocker shaft?


> << *BTW, after all the years they have been in business, there
> aren't many mistakes left in the Moss catalog!!!*  >>
>
> But Lawrie, is the 'thumb' [ or 'big toe' ] GONE ?!?!?!?!?
>
> Anon
>
> PS:  Yep, I know:  Stir, stir, stir, ................. ! ! !
> PPS:  I used both "digits" as I have heard BOTH used to
>         describe !?!?!?
> ______________________________________________
>
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From sumton at sbcglobal.net  Wed Sep 21 09:56:25 2011
From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver)
Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 10:56:25 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] color code
Message-ID: <0FEEE999697B4ABF8082A9EFAE6E328B@ranteer.local>

does anyone have the paint code for a 1952 TD butter yellow?

thanks!

From lawrie at britcars.com  Mon Sep 26 08:14:27 2011
From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander)
Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 07:14:27 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] TD available
Message-ID: <4C1F5F763FA449468AD83CD939E032BB@shop>

Fellow listers,

A friend of mine has to sell his TD to pay medical bills. Sad situation, 
indeed, but a great opportunity for someone to acquire a really nice TD at a 
good price. Details at www.britcars.com on the cars for sale on consignment 
page.

Lawrie 

From scvc70 at epix.net  Thu Sep 29 09:37:00 2011
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 11:37:00 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Hershey
Message-ID: <31570E7BA6C6493086933E74ABC37D1D@valuedea617bbe>

Any/all Listers planning to come to Hershey next week are welcome to stop by
our spaces in the Chocolate Field,  CU 40 - 41, at least to say hello even if
you don't buy anything!  Look for the British flag overhead---------

Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA