From drmoyce at ent-oakland.com Mon Nov 8 13:56:06 2010 From: drmoyce at ent-oakland.com (Andrew Moyce) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 12:56:06 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] Ignition, headlamp switch Message-ID: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C959B@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local> I've got a NOS ignition switch to install in my TD, but there is no key number stamped on the face, and of course my key doesn't fit. Anyone have any tricks on how to disassemble so I can either change out the cylinder or take it to a locksmith? I recall that when I was restoring the original I snapped off the lamp switch handle trying to get it apart. Andy Moyce 52 TD From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com Mon Nov 8 14:38:48 2010 From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 15:38:48 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Ignition, headlamp switch In-Reply-To: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C959B@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local> References: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C959B@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local> Message-ID: Andy, Twist the chrome face against the switch body. DO NOT pry up the tabs. This should free the operating mechanism. Then, remove the small nut at the center of the rear. That will free the lock barrel. There will be a small knob which engages with the barrel sleeve. Press that in and the lock barrel will come free. Also, DO NOT try to remove the barrel sleeve from the switch body as they tend to fracture. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Moyce Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:56 PM To: mg-t at autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Ignition, headlamp switch I've got a NOS ignition switch to install in my TD, but there is no key number stamped on the face, and of course my key doesn't fit. Anyone have any tricks on how to disassemble so I can either change out the cylinder or take it to a locksmith? I recall that when I was restoring the original I snapped off the lamp switch handle trying to get it apart. Andy Moyce 52 TD ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com From crownwheel at comcast.net Mon Nov 8 14:47:13 2010 From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene) Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 16:47:13 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Ignition, headlamp switch In-Reply-To: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C959B@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local> References: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C959B@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local> Message-ID: <01e901cb7f8e$81a997d0$84fcc770$@net> I, just Friday had to take two strong boxes from a deceased relative to the locksmith with no key for either and he created a key for each ... if all else fails, try a certified locksmith. Gene Eliot 53 M.G. TD Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Andrew Moyce Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 3:56 PM To: mg-t at autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Ignition, headlamp switch I've got a NOS ignition switch to install in my TD, but there is no key number stamped on the face, and of course my key doesn't fit. Anyone have any tricks on how to disassemble so I can either change out the cylinder or take it to a locksmith? I recall that when I was restoring the original I snapped off the lamp switch handle trying to get it apart. Andy Moyce 52 TD ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/crownwheel at comcast.net From leylandauto at yahoo.com Wed Nov 10 15:43:48 2010 From: leylandauto at yahoo.com (leylandauto at yahoo.com) Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 14:43:48 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mg-t] (no subject) Message-ID: <698026.95950.qm@web113416.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> http://caqubowa.tripod.com/ From kingseim at earthlink.net Wed Nov 17 11:32:45 2010 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:32:45 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] 37th Annual Vintage MG Club of Southern California ALL MG Parts Exchange, Sunday, November 21 Message-ID: <9FDF18BC-2098-4AA5-86FA-3C4E6E3A98EF@earthlink.net> The 37th annual Vintage MG Club of Southern California ALL MG Parts Exchange will be held this Sunday, November 21, 2010. Parts for MG M types to MGB LE can be found there. Cars for Sale area. MG Regalia and Collectibles to be found there. Where: College Park, College of Communications, 2600 E. Nutwood Ave., Fullerton, CA (across from California State University - Fullerton). When: 7:00 a.m. to 1:00 p.m. (Shine or Rain) Near the 57 and 91 freeway interchange. Admission: General: $5.00 Vendor Spaces: $20.00 for the first parking space; $10.00 for each additional space. Food Booth on Site Closest Lodging: Fullerton Marriott at Cal. State Univ. Fullerton, 3701 E. Nutwood Ave. Hotel Reservations: 714-738-7800; FAX: 714-738-0288. for more info: John Seim Irvine, CA From stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 21 11:58:53 2010 From: stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net (Mark Stolzenburg) Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 12:58:53 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Whereabouts of TC5010 Message-ID: Does anyone on the list know of the whereabouts of TC 5010? And if so, provide any contact information? The car was owner by Dean Jensen who lived in Port Byron, Illinois. Dean was an avid MG enthusiast who unfortunately passed in 2007. Any information on the location of the car would be appreciated. Thanks, Mark Stolzenburg St. Louis, Missouri From lawrie at britcars.com Tue Nov 23 08:57:49 2010 From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 07:57:49 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] Help needed on XPAG engine Message-ID: <538760C0B9D9410BA69468D8A83C8375@shop> Fellow listers, I've recently had a few phone conversations with a chap in Ft. Walton Beach, Florida, who is having problems maintaining oil pressure on a rebuilt XPAG engine. My understanding is that the engine was built from parts of various engines. I've given him every suggestion I can think of to try and fix the problem but nothing has worked. I've reached the conclusion that it needs someone who is very familiar with XPAG engines to actually look at the engine and see what might be missing, installed improperly or in the wrong place, etc. I'd love to do this myself but the Florida panhandle is a long way from Northern California! So, I write to ask if anyone knows someone in Florida who could visit this chap and look at his engine, or who I could refer him to somewhat locally so he could take the engine over there to be checked out. His name is Brian Wood and his phone number is 850-461-2153, if you want to contact him directly. Thanks in advance for any help you can give. Lawrie Alexander From anngene at bellsouth.net Tue Nov 23 09:17:20 2010 From: anngene at bellsouth.net (anngene at bellsouth.net) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 10:17:20 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] [Mg-mmm] Help needed on XPAG engine In-Reply-To: <538760C0B9D9410BA69468D8A83C8375@shop> References: <538760C0B9D9410BA69468D8A83C8375@shop> Message-ID: ?I've called and left a message for Brian...I'm a bit far away here in Mississippi but I've referred him to Blair Engle in Tallahassee. Blair raced TD's back in the day and has owned his TD (ex-racer) for years and years. Regards, Gene Gillam Saucier, MS -------------------------------------------------- From: "Lawrie Alexander" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:57 AM To: Cc: "MMM Group" Subject: [Mg-mmm] Help needed on XPAG engine > Fellow listers, > > I've recently had a few phone conversations with a chap in Ft. Walton > Beach, Florida, who is having problems maintaining oil pressure on a > rebuilt XPAG engine. My understanding is that the engine was built from > parts of various engines. I've given him every suggestion I can think of > to try and fix the problem but nothing has worked. I've reached the > conclusion that it needs someone who is very familiar with XPAG engines to > actually look at the engine and see what might be missing, installed > improperly or in the wrong place, etc. I'd love to do this myself but the > Florida panhandle is a long way from Northern California! > > So, I write to ask if anyone knows someone in Florida who could visit this > chap and look at his engine, or who I could refer him to somewhat locally > so he could take the engine over there to be checked out. His name is > Brian Wood and his phone number is 850-461-2153, if you want to contact > him directly. > > Thanks in advance for any help you can give. > > Lawrie Alexander _______________________________________________ > > Mg-mmm at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-mmm/anngene at bellsouth.net From lawrie at britcars.com Tue Nov 23 09:33:12 2010 From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 08:33:12 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] [Mg-mmm] Help needed on XPAG engine References: <538760C0B9D9410BA69468D8A83C8375@shop> Message-ID: Thanks, Gene. I remember Blair's name from years ago, when I vintage raced my TD special. I thought he lived in Minnesota but it sounds as though he decided sunshine was preferable to snow! Lawrie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Lawrie Alexander" ; Cc: "MMM Group" Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 8:17 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] Help needed on XPAG engine > ?I've called and left a message for Brian...I'm a bit far away here in > Mississippi but I've referred him to Blair Engle in Tallahassee. Blair > raced TD's back in the day and has owned his TD (ex-racer) for years and > years. > > Regards, > Gene Gillam > Saucier, MS > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Lawrie Alexander" > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 9:57 AM > To: > Cc: "MMM Group" > Subject: [Mg-mmm] Help needed on XPAG engine > >> Fellow listers, >> >> I've recently had a few phone conversations with a chap in Ft. Walton >> Beach, Florida, who is having problems maintaining oil pressure on a >> rebuilt XPAG engine. My understanding is that the engine was built from >> parts of various engines. I've given him every suggestion I can think of >> to try and fix the problem but nothing has worked. I've reached the >> conclusion that it needs someone who is very familiar with XPAG engines >> to actually look at the engine and see what might be missing, installed >> improperly or in the wrong place, etc. I'd love to do this myself but the >> Florida panhandle is a long way from Northern California! >> >> So, I write to ask if anyone knows someone in Florida who could visit >> this chap and look at his engine, or who I could refer him to somewhat >> locally so he could take the engine over there to be checked out. His >> name is Brian Wood and his phone number is 850-461-2153, if you want to >> contact him directly. >> >> Thanks in advance for any help you can give. >> >> Lawrie Alexander _______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-mmm at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-mmm/anngene at bellsouth.net From eabb at loc.gov Tue Nov 23 10:55:01 2010 From: eabb at loc.gov (Abbondelo, Eugene D) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 12:55:01 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Pre-war or early post-war MG owners Message-ID: <5C2B861D64E4994DA897DE5936A54ECA12C5AA737A@LCXCLMB02.LCDS.LOC.GOV> Any pre-war or early post-war MG owners on the list living in the Frederick or Westminster, Maryland area? I'm moving up that way from near Washington, D.C. If so, please contact me at: eugene.abbondelo at verizon.net Thanks, Gene Abbondelo Hyattsville, Maryland From lawrie at britcars.com Sun Nov 28 14:43:06 2010 From: lawrie at britcars.com (Lawrie Alexander) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 13:43:06 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California Message-ID: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop> Fellow Listers .... I have found an MGB GT V8 in England that can be had for next-to-nothing, having sat in a garage for over 20 years since last being used. It looks to be a reasonably straightforward restoration project, so I am considering adding it to my "future project" list. First, however, I need to know what it might cost to ship a car from England to San Francisco. If anyone has done this or can give me any suggestions, I'd be grateful for their advice. If shipping the car here turns out to be too expensive to make the project worthwhile, I'll be happy to relay the information on the car to anyone in the UK who might be looking for a V8 BGT project ........ TIA, Lawrie Alexander From rob20001955mg at cs.com Sun Nov 28 17:16:56 2010 From: rob20001955mg at cs.com (rob20001955mg at cs.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:16:56 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California In-Reply-To: <8CD5D6F116BA99E-E20-38265@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> References: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop> <8CD5D6F116BA99E-E20-38265@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <8CD5D71DDBFD645-E20-3850A@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> -----Original Message----- From: rob20001955mg at cs.com To: lawrie at britcars.com Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California Yes I have shipped several cars on RoRo (Roll on Roll off) ships from the port of Southampton, UK to Long Beach, CA (P&O Line). RoRo is the most economical shipping method by far. Some risk is involved though, as the vehicle is obviously not locked in a 20' container on deck but is rather anchored down in a cargo hold. Still, I have never had any problems shipping from Europe. Even with vehicles full of spare parts (be advised, the shipping companies vigorously discourage that practice and it is at your own risk). >From S. America is a totally different story. Once I received a Citroen Deux Chevaux that clearly had been completely rifled - seats removed, every inch searched somewhere along the way in transit - and NOT by any Customs Service. Either it was done by a ship employee with nothing better to do, or possibly while in some port waiting to be transshipped to another vessel. Best if the vehicle runs, but I know that is not a firm requirement and even non-operable vehicles are shipped (expect another charge to be levied of course). Be prepared to pay big bucks though. The shipping charges change from day-to-day, plus you will be quoted in either Euros or English Pounds, and both are more valuable than dollars. I would guess at least $2,500 (if you are lucky). Plus there is the inevitable harbor landing charges, the Customs broker fee (US Customs doesn't allow private citizens to handle their own importation paperwork anymore - even though it is only a couple of simple forms to fill out). It is time consuming for a Customs officer so they just don't want to deal with it anymore. And so the importer pays another $100 - $200 to a Customs Broker for the 5-minute privilege of not having to down load and fill-in a couple of self explanatory forms. Rob B. -----Original Message----- From: Lawrie Alexander To: mg-t at autox.team.net Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 2:43 pm Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California Fellow Listers .... I have found an MGB GT V8 in England that can be had for next-to-nothing, having sat in a garage for over 20 years since last being used. It looks to be a reasonably straightforward restoration project, so I am considering adding it to my "future project" list. First, however, I need to know what it might cost to ship a car from England to San Francisco. If anyone has done this or can give me any suggestions, I'd be grateful for their advice. If shipping the car here turns out to be too expensive to make the project worthwhile, I'll be happy to relay the information on the car to anyone in the UK who might be looking for a V8 BGT project ........ TIA, Lawrie Alexander ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/rob20001955mg at cs.com From na7db at yahoo.com Sun Nov 28 18:02:19 2010 From: na7db at yahoo.com (brown dan) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 17:02:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California In-Reply-To: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop> Message-ID: <695259.39070.qm@web111109.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> I just imported a MG Y car this summer to Long Beach. I shipped on a Roll On Roll Off ship. The cost was around $1.500 US and another $100 for insurance. The cost of the "broker" was $350 and there is the 2% import tax/fee. I had a bunch of spares and it cost as much as the car. Between boxing and shipping, customs wirh "intensive inspection" fees, and yada, yada fees, and more "broker fees. They love to add up those fees. Putting one in a container is more expensive. In the future I will find a broker in the port town where I receive the car. Should take 6 to 10 weeks from when you start. Best Wishes, Dan --- On Sun, 11/28/10, Lawrie Alexander wrote: From: Lawrie Alexander Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California To: mg-t at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, November 28, 2010, 1:43 PM Fellow Listers .... I have found an MGB GT V8 in England that can be had for next-to-nothing, having sat in a garage for over 20 years since last being used. It looks to be a reasonably straightforward restoration project, so I am considering adding it to my "future project" list. First, however, I need to know what it might cost to ship a car from England to San Francisco. If anyone has done this or can give me any suggestions, I'd be grateful for their advice. If shipping the car here turns out to be too expensive to make the project worthwhile, I'll be happy to relay the information on the car to anyone in the UK who might be looking for a V8 BGT project ........ TIA, Lawrie Alexander ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/na7db at yahoo.com From lkarpman at tx.rr.com Sun Nov 28 18:08:14 2010 From: lkarpman at tx.rr.com (Lawrence Karpman) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:08:14 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California In-Reply-To: <8CD5D71DDBFD645-E20-3850A@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> References: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop><8CD5D6F116BA99E-E20-38265@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <8CD5D71DDBFD645-E20-3850A@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <2E8575FADE144658B321798C7BA034A1@LarryPC> I shipped a TD from Anchorage AK to France via Air France cargo in 1990, and it was cheaper than any of the surface costs any company quoted me. And, the buyer had the car 2 days after I dropped it off at Air France cargo. Might be worth checking air cargo rates. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:16 PM Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California > -----Original Message----- > From: rob20001955mg at cs.com > To: lawrie at britcars.com > Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 4:56 pm > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California > > > Yes I have shipped several cars on RoRo (Roll on Roll off) ships from the > port > of Southampton, UK to Long Beach, CA (P&O Line). RoRo is the most > economical > shipping method by far. Some risk is involved though, as the vehicle is > obviously not locked in a 20' container on deck but is rather anchored > down in > a cargo hold. Still, I have never had any problems shipping from Europe. > Even > with vehicles full of spare parts (be advised, the shipping companies > vigorously discourage that practice and it is at your own risk). > >>From S. America is a totally different story. Once I received a Citroen >>Deux > Chevaux that clearly had been completely rifled - seats removed, every > inch > searched somewhere along the way in transit - and NOT by any Customs > Service. > Either it was done by a ship employee with nothing better to do, or > possibly > while in some port waiting to be transshipped to another vessel. > > Best if the vehicle runs, but I know that is not a firm requirement and > even > non-operable vehicles are shipped (expect another charge to be levied of > course). Be prepared to pay big bucks though. The shipping charges change > from > day-to-day, plus you will be quoted in either Euros or English Pounds, and > both are more valuable than dollars. I would guess at least $2,500 (if you > are > lucky). Plus there is the inevitable harbor landing charges, the Customs > broker fee (US Customs doesn't allow private citizens to handle their own > importation paperwork anymore - even though it is only a couple of simple > forms to fill out). It is time consuming for a Customs officer so they > just > don't want to deal with it anymore. And so the importer pays another > $100 - > $200 to a Customs Broker for the 5-minute privilege of not having to down > load > and fill-in a couple of self explanatory forms. > > Rob B. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrie Alexander > To: mg-t at autox.team.net > Sent: Sun, Nov 28, 2010 2:43 pm > Subject: [Mg-t] Shipping a car from England to California > > > Fellow Listers .... > > I have found an MGB GT V8 in England that can be had for next-to-nothing, > having sat in a garage for over 20 years since last being used. It looks > to > be a reasonably straightforward restoration project, so I am considering > adding it to my "future project" list. > > First, however, I need to know what it might cost to ship a car from > England > to San Francisco. If anyone has done this or can give me any suggestions, > I'd be grateful for their advice. > > If shipping the car here turns out to be too expensive to make the project > worthwhile, I'll be happy to relay the information on the car to anyone in > the UK who might be looking for a V8 BGT project ........ > > TIA, > > Lawrie Alexander > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/rob20001955mg at cs.com > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lkarpman at tx.rr.com From chillmog at sbcglobal.net Sun Nov 28 18:25:12 2010 From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 19:25:12 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California In-Reply-To: <2E8575FADE144658B321798C7BA034A1@LarryPC> References: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop><8CD5D6F116BA99E-E20-38265@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <8CD5D71DDBFD645-E20-3850A@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <2E8575FADE144658B321798C7BA034A1@LarryPC> Message-ID: <4CF300F8.1070504@sbcglobal.net> Lawrence has an idea worth investigating. Several years ago, I shipped my motorcycle from Athens, Greece to San Antonio, TX via air. It was considerably cheaper than what I was quoted for sea shipping. And it was almost door-to-door. I was able to scrounge some gas and ride it home from the airport! My situation was a little different though as customs was not an issue as it was personal effects of a returning US serviceman. All I needed to do was show a copy of my PCS orders. Charles Hill On 11/28/2010 7:08 PM, Lawrence Karpman wrote: > I shipped a TD from Anchorage AK to France via Air France cargo in > 1990, and it was cheaper than any of the surface costs any company > quoted me. And, the buyer had the car 2 days after I dropped it off at > Air France cargo. Might be worth checking air cargo rates. From arundell at ghs.com.au Sun Nov 28 18:34:50 2010 From: arundell at ghs.com.au (Murray Arundell) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:34:50 +1000 Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California In-Reply-To: <4CF300F8.1070504@sbcglobal.net> References: <58C4E33CECA342FE97E21881BE786DCC@shop><8CD5D6F116BA99E-E20-38265@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <8CD5D71DDBFD645-E20-3850A@webmail-m099.sysops.aol.com> <2E8575FADE144658B321798C7BA034A1@LarryPC> <4CF300F8.1070504@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <973E710D-2310-4C3A-BA99-80F8326502F3@ghs.com.au> You can probably forget that idea these days. Since 9/11 the airlines have priced the freighting of cars by air out of existence. It used to be quite common down here to ship cars between Aus & NZ by air (have done it myself). The situation now is very different. Check it out by all means but I suspect it will be a dead end. Murray Arundell On 29/11/2010, at 11:25 AM, Charles Hill wrote: > Lawrence has an idea worth investigating. Several years ago, I > shipped my motorcycle from Athens, Greece to San Antonio, TX via > air. It was considerably cheaper than what I was quoted for sea > shipping. And it was almost door-to-door. I was able to scrounge > some gas and ride it home from the airport! My situation was a > little different though as customs was not an issue as it was > personal effects of a returning US serviceman. All I needed to do > was show a copy of my PCS orders. > > Charles Hill > > On 11/28/2010 7:08 PM, Lawrence Karpman wrote: >> I shipped a TD from Anchorage AK to France via Air France cargo in >> 1990, and it was cheaper than any of the surface costs any company >> quoted me. And, the buyer had the car 2 days after I dropped it off >> at Air France cargo. Might be worth checking air cargo rates. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell at ghs.com.au From PopeyMike at aol.com Sun Nov 28 21:21:41 2010 From: PopeyMike at aol.com (PopeyMike at aol.com) Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2010 23:21:41 EST Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: Shipping a car from England to California - Check the expert Message-ID: <67e28.15aca9b8.3a248455@aol.com> In a message dated 11/28/2010 7:35:04 P.M. Central Standard Time, arundell at ghs.com.au writes: You can probably forget that idea these days. Since 9/11 the airlines have priced the freighting of cars by air out of existence. It used to be quite common down here to ship cars between Aus & NZ by air (have done it myself). The situation now is very different. Check it out by all means but I suspect it will be a dead end. Murray Arundell On 29/11/2010, at 11:25 AM, Charles Hill wrote: > Lawrence has an idea worth investigating. Several years ago, I > shipped my motorcycle from Athens, Greece to San Antonio, TX via > air. It was considerably cheaper than what I was quoted for sea > shipping. And it was almost door-to-door. I was able to scrounge > some gas and ride it home from the airport! My situation was a > little different though as customs was not an issue as it was > personal effects of a returning US serviceman. All I needed to do > was show a copy of my PCS orders. > > Charles Hill > > On 11/28/2010 7:08 PM, Lawrence Karpman wrote: >> I shipped a TD from Anchorage AK to France via Air France cargo in >> 1990, and it was cheaper than any of the surface costs any company >> quoted me. And, the buyer had the car 2 days after I dropped it off >> at Air France cargo. Might be worth checking air cargo rates. > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/arundell at ghs.com.au ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/popeymike at aol.com From johnsfolly at gmail.com Mon Nov 29 09:06:20 2010 From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? Message-ID: I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car system. Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? Thoughts? Thanks in advance. John Deikis -- Racing in the Past Lane! From mgbob at juno.com Mon Nov 29 09:13:50 2010 From: mgbob at juno.com (mgbob at juno.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:13:50 GMT Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? Message-ID: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> One imagines that it could be done, but is it needed? Have you experienced boiling of the coolant? Our TD radiators are quite large for a 1250cc engine, and had no overheating problems during the years my TD was driven in Florida.Bob ---------- Original Message ---------- From: JohnD To: MG T List Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car system. Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? Thoughts? Thanks in advance. John Deikis -- Racing in the Past Lane! ______________________________________________ Mg-t at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgbob at juno.com From jhermance at earthfax.com Mon Nov 29 09:30:25 2010 From: jhermance at earthfax.com (Jonathan Hermance) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 09:30:25 -0700 (MST) Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <474246753.260120.1291048225641.JavaMail.root@zms03.zcs> John, I haven't checked it out for sure, but I suspect the hose-to-the-bottom coolant recovery tank and bracket from a 1970's era Volvo 122/240/P1800 will likely fit somewhere under the TD bonnet near the radiator. The Volvo tank is not particularly good looking, though. Jon Hermance TC, TD, TF SLC UT ----- Original Message ----- From: "JohnD" To: "MG T List" Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 8:06:20 AM Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car system. Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? Thoughts? Thanks in advance. John Deikis -- Racing in the Past Lane! From BudKrueger at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 10:44:28 2010 From: BudKrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:44:28 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4CF3E67C.2030904@comcast.net> John, Bob's right about the cooling capacity. The main reason for the coolant recovery system is just that -- recover coolant that might otherwise have messed up your fenders or bonnet. See http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/Overflow_tank.html for a view of my system, ala the late Skip Kelsey. Bud Krueger http://www.ttalk.info/ mgbob at juno.com wrote: > One imagines that it could be done, but is it needed? Have you experienced > boiling of the coolant? Our TD radiators are quite large for a 1250cc engine, > and had no overheating problems during the years my TD was driven in > Florida.Bob > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: JohnD > To: MG T List > Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 > > I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car > system. > Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe > sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and > then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? > Thoughts? > Thanks in advance. > John Deikis > -- > Racing in the Past Lane! > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgbob at juno.com > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger at comcast.net From LAF48 at aol.com Mon Nov 29 10:58:23 2010 From: LAF48 at aol.com (LAF48 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:58:23 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? Message-ID: <2bed1.34074c9a.3a2543bf@aol.com> Hello John, I have done it, very easy. Put an o ring under the cap, buy a radiator cap neck from a radiator shop, solder a cap on the bottom, install a nipple on the soldered cap, attach the nipple to the overflow pipe. Regards, Len Fanelli Abingdon Performance XPAG roller lifter cam kits Harley Davidson custom cams & gear sets 914 420 8699 From ddubois at sinclair.net Mon Nov 29 11:05:03 2010 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 10:05:03 -0800 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4CF3EB4F.8030800@sinclair.net> John, It can, and has been done. Somewhere in my vast library of clippings from numerous T series club newsletters, I have an article on making such a modification. If you are interested, I can send you a copy. That said, I agree with Bob, when he asks, "is it needed". My answer would be no, it isn't. As Bob points out the cooling system in the T series cars has an overly large radiator that doesn't need much external help. About the only thing that pressurizing will help with is to increase the boiling point of the coolant (if I remember correctly, the boiling point is raised a degree or two for every pound of pressure). We have been driving out TD for over 25 years, all over the western US in all kinds of weather and have never had the cooling system boil on us. Instead of pressurizing the system, if the time and money is spent in getting the cooling system in tip top shape (clean radiator and clean cooling passages in the engine,etc.and using a 25% - 50% solution of antifreeze) one will have a system that can handle anything that normal driving can throw at it. The addition of a coolant recovery system is the one thing that I added to our TD. While it doesn't do anything to prevent boiling, it does make keeping the coolant level where is should be much easier. For information on how to install a coolant recovery system, see the article, Expansion Tanks, Coolant Systems and How the Cooling System Works in the Other Tech Articles section of my web site at: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ Cheers, Dave From anngene at bellsouth.net Mon Nov 29 11:14:32 2010 From: anngene at bellsouth.net (anngene at bellsouth.net) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:14:32 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Fw: Pressurized cooling system? Message-ID: ?Yes...some time back someone was selling a system such as you describe. It consisted of a radiator neck with a 4lb cap. The neck was sealed at the bottom and had an input and an output connection. It was connected to the overflow of the radiator. I bought one when I was having overheating problems with my TC (same cooling system as the TD). I tried it out one day and blew the gasket at the rear of the head. I took it off and sold it to someone else. Gene Gillam Saucier, MS -------------------------------------------------- > From: "JohnD" > Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 10:06 AM > To: "MG T List" > Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? > >> I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T >> car >> system. >> Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? >> Maybe >> sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up >> and >> then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? >> Thoughts? >> Thanks in advance. >> John Deikis >> -- >> Racing in the Past Lane! >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/anngene at bellsouth.net From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com Mon Nov 29 11:17:35 2010 From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 18:17:35 -0000 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? References: <2bed1.34074c9a.3a2543bf@aol.com> Message-ID: But Len - Why? Unless there is a fault on the car it is not going to boil anyway. Clive ============================= ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? > Hello John, I have done it, very easy. Put an o ring under the cap, buy a > radiator cap neck from a radiator shop, solder a cap on the bottom, > install a > nipple on the soldered cap, attach the nipple to the overflow pipe. > Regards, Len Fanelli > Abingdon Performance > XPAG roller lifter cam kits > Harley Davidson custom cams & gear sets > 914 420 8699 > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com From lkarpman at tx.rr.com Mon Nov 29 11:19:52 2010 From: lkarpman at tx.rr.com (Lawrence Karpman) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 12:19:52 -0600 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: <4CF3E67C.2030904@comcast.net> References: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> <4CF3E67C.2030904@comcast.net> Message-ID: <84A1059AAB3F4D8985BA160F0E0D6089@LarryPC> I have the same system in my TD that Bud has. Works very well to "recover" coolant that would normally go overboard. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bud Krueger" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 11:44 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? > John, Bob's right about the cooling capacity. The main reason for the > coolant recovery system is just that -- recover coolant that might > otherwise have messed up your fenders or bonnet. See > http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/Overflow_tank.html for a view of my system, ala > the late Skip Kelsey. > > Bud Krueger > http://www.ttalk.info/ > > mgbob at juno.com wrote: >> One imagines that it could be done, but is it needed? Have you >> experienced >> boiling of the coolant? Our TD radiators are quite large for a 1250cc >> engine, >> and had no overheating problems during the years my TD was driven in >> Florida.Bob >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: JohnD >> To: MG T List >> Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? >> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 >> >> I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T >> car >> system. >> Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? >> Maybe >> sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up >> and >> then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? >> Thoughts? >> Thanks in advance. >> John Deikis >> -- >> Racing in the Past Lane! >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgbob at juno.com >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger at comcast.net > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/lkarpman at tx.rr.com From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 12:04:46 2010 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 14:04:46 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> References: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> Message-ID: <4CF3F94E.5040709@comcast.net> The TD radiator cap has a rubber o-ring that seals it pretty well. Actually it lies in the groove on the filler neck. I've also had no problems with a radiator in good shape. It heats up most when turning higher rpms on the highway, but stays well below boiling. Never a problem at lower speeds. Charlie mgbob at juno.com wrote: > One imagines that it could be done, but is it needed? Have you experienced > boiling of the coolant? Our TD radiators are quite large for a 1250cc engine, > and had no overheating problems during the years my TD was driven in > Florida.Bob > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: JohnD > To: MG T List > Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? > Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 > > I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car > system. > Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe > sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and > then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? > Thoughts? > Thanks in advance. > John Deikis > -- > Racing in the Past Lane! > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgbob at juno.com > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgcharlie at comcast.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From BudKrueger at comcast.net Mon Nov 29 13:55:07 2010 From: BudKrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 15:55:07 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? In-Reply-To: <4CF3F94E.5040709@comcast.net> References: <20101129.111350.8519.3@webmail14.vgs.untd.com> <4CF3F94E.5040709@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4CF4132B.8080104@comcast.net> As Charlie points out, that big rubber o-ring under the cap seals it quite well. The only opening after that is the end of the overflow tube. My system has a piece of tubing connected at that point. It, in turn, goes into the intake side of the MGB coolant tank. Closing the valve on top of the tank would then cause it to be a closed, pressurized system. But, I don't want that, so I leave the pressure cap open. Bud Charlie Baldwin wrote: > The TD radiator cap has a rubber o-ring that seals it pretty well. > Actually it lies in the groove on the filler neck. > I've also had no problems with a radiator in good shape. It heats up > most when turning higher rpms on the highway, but stays well below > boiling. Never a problem at lower speeds. > Charlie > > mgbob at juno.com wrote: > >> One imagines that it could be done, but is it needed? Have you experienced >> boiling of the coolant? Our TD radiators are quite large for a 1250cc engine, >> and had no overheating problems during the years my TD was driven in >> Florida.Bob >> >> ---------- Original Message ---------- >> From: JohnD >> To: MG T List >> Subject: [Mg-t] Pressurized cooling system? >> Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 11:06:20 -0500 >> >> I've seen write-ups on fitting a coolant recovery system to the pre-TF T car >> system. >> Makes me wonder if anyone has converted a TD to a pressurized system? Maybe >> sealing the radiator cap with with a rubber gasket and tightening it up and >> then running a tank off the overflow with a low pressure cap? >> Thoughts? >> Thanks in advance. >> John Deikis >> -- >> Racing in the Past Lane! >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgbob at juno.com >> ______________________________________________ >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Suggested annual donation $11.47 >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/mgcharlie at comcast.net >> > [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] > ______________________________________________ > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t/budkrueger at comcast.net From LAF48 at aol.com Mon Nov 29 14:16:26 2010 From: LAF48 at aol.com (LAF48 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 29 Nov 2010 16:16:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [Mg-t] Cooling system Message-ID: Pressurized cooling systems were not designed to prevent over heating, or loss of coolant due to expansion or loss of coolant due to boiling. A pressurized system helps prevent blown head gaskets, by keeping the coolant @ the exhaust valve pocket a liquid, instead of a boiling vapor, even when the engine temperature reads 160 degrees F. Both pressurized & non pressurized systems will push coolant out of the overflow tube if overfilled, coolant should be 1 3/4" or so below the filler neck.