From s4usea at yahoo.com  Fri Jul  2 09:11:06 2010
From: s4usea at yahoo.com (S Allen)
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 08:11:06 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Fouled Spark Plugs
In-Reply-To: <4C2A700E.4020700@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <864630.8126.qm@web37404.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Take the cap off, grab the dizzy shaft and give it a shake.  
If it moves it's
time for a re-build.

The case it pot metal, which over time will have an oval pattern on it when it
turns which will cause the back two cylinders to burn cooler.

Sometimes a Petronix ignition can fix the problem.

~Scott Allen

52 TD
74 1/2 BGT

--- On Tue, 6/29/10, Nels Anderson <nels at flightsim.com> wrote:

From: Nels Anderson <nels at flightsim.com>
Subject: [Mg-t] Fouled Spark Plugs
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Tuesday, June 29, 2010, 6:13 PM

It seems that as long as I've had my '53 TD the spark plugs have fouled on a
regular basis. Last summer I had the carbs professionally rebuilt and adjusted
and expected that to solve the problem. But today I tried to drive the car and
it was running so rough I turned right around and went home.

I pulled the plugs and found #3 fouled (black material between points) and #4
somewhat caked with black material but not fouled. #1 and #2 were black but
not so bad looking. This is pretty much the same thing I used to see before
the carbs were rebuilt.

Carbs were rebuilt last September, 1300 miles ago.
Plugs were new last September, 1200 miles ago.
Ignition wires were new in 2007.
Distributor cap, etc. new in 2004.

So I'm wondering what I can do to reduce this fouling? Would hotter spark
plugs work; I'm currently using Champion L82YC. Would a sport coil help
(hotter spark)? And if so, I believe the plugs have to be regapped; to what
setting? Currently they are gapped between .020 and .022 according to the
book.

Thanks for any help.

--Nels Anderson
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From nels at flightsim.com  Sat Jul  3 06:18:03 2010
From: nels at flightsim.com (Nels Anderson)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 08:18:03 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
Message-ID: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>

I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local 
tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is 
not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so 
where have other people found tires?

--Nels Anderson

From kingseim at earthlink.net  Sat Jul  3 08:08:27 2010
From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 07:08:27 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <2F9F5EE0-EAAC-41F2-9852-3E2B78A8AAB1@earthlink.net>

Now known as either 165/80-15 or 165/80R15 size, for the 165R15.
Nankang, Nexen, and other manufactures make this size.
You can still buy Michelin XZX tires in 165R15 size. Coker Tire  
Company has an exclusive for distribution in the USA. Priced at  
$135.00 ea., last time I checked.
This size was also used by the Volkswagen Beetle, so should still be  
available worldwide. You might have to special order them, but they  
still are available.

John Seim
Irvine, CA

On Jul 3, 2010, at 5:18 AM, Nels Anderson wrote:

> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the  
> local tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size  
> (165SR15) is not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to  
> run into this, so where have other people found tires?
>
> --Nels Anderson
> ______________________________________________
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From lawrie at britcars.com  Sat Jul  3 08:13:22 2010
From: lawrie at britcars.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?lawrie?=)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 06:13:22 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] =?iso-8859-1?q?MG_TD_Tires?=
Message-ID: <20100703141322.9579.qmail@s417.sureserver.com>

Nels,

I Googled 165-SR-15 tires and found quite a few sources listed. Not as inexpensive as they used to be but at least available!

Lawrie


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: Nels Anderson <nels at flightsim.com>
>  To: Mg-t at autox.team.net
>  Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>  Sent: 03 Jul '10 04:18
>  
>  I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
>  tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is
>  not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so
>  where have other people found tires?
>  
>  --Nels Anderson
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From rddell at mindspring.com  Sat Jul  3 08:14:38 2010
From: rddell at mindspring.com (Dick Dell)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:14:38 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw:  MG TD Tires
Message-ID: <90AA9128C3F047B5B6AED93CA282CACB@GATEWAY>

> Hello Nels,
>
> I had the same problem last time I tried to buy tires. I ended up at J.C. 
> Whitney. They still carry them. try this link 
> http://www.jcwhitney.com/replacement-radial-tires/p2017661.jcwx#prodDetailTabPanel
>
> Cost is $74.99 each, which I think is very reasonable just to be able to 
> get them.
>
> Dick Dell
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nels Anderson" <nels at flightsim.com>
> To: <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:18 AM
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
>
>>I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local tire 
>>places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is not 
>>available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so where 
>>have other people found tires?
>>
>> --Nels Anderson
>> ______________________________________________
>>
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From skunk149 at hotmail.com  Sat Jul  3 08:18:27 2010
From: skunk149 at hotmail.com (Bob Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:18:27 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <SNT112-W413D4C97C72C3F75EFA16E9BCF0@phx.gbl>

Dunno where you're hiding out these days, but I got great tires from Sports &
Classics in Stamford, CT. It WAS a few years ago.  Ask for John, you could
mention my name, I don't think he'll hang up! He has an endless parts
inventory, as well.Parenthetically, I got a very very low price for Dayton
wire wheels for my E Type. I'm stil not certain if the extra-fee "show polish"
is really worth it, but they are gorgeous wheels. Oh, and please don't put
wires on a TD.
Bob MitchellWeston, CT

> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 08:18:03 -0400
> From: nels at flightsim.com
> To: Mg-t at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is
> not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so
> where have other people found tires?
>
> --Nels Anderson
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From ted at the-jacksons.ca  Sat Jul  3 11:59:58 2010
From: ted at the-jacksons.ca (Ted Jackson)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 13:59:58 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <102EF2BB-BE1F-456E-91B5-EF047191CB2F@the-jacksons.ca>

I got some, 7 years ago, made by Bridgestone but branded as "Metric". Sidewall
says 165R15 "Widetrack". Served me well for about 7 years now. Friends bought
them more recently.

Ted Jackson (Ipod)

On 2010-07-03, at 8:18 AM, Nels Anderson <nels at flightsim.com> wrote:

> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local tire
places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is not
available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so where have
other people found tires?
>
> --Nels Anderson
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>
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From jquilter at peoplepc.com  Sat Jul  3 12:23:00 2010
From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John F. Quilter)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 11:23:00 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <54C8B13056034DDAB54D88040D05DBDE@JQLT070909>

I put a set of Kumho 165X15 radials on my TD two years ago and have  been 
quite pleased.  As I recall they were only about $35.00 each plus shipping 
which I thought was quite a good bargan.    Can't recall who I bought them 
from however.

John F. Quilter
Eugene,  Oregon


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Nels Anderson" <nels at flightsim.com>
To: <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 5:18 AM
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires


>I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local tire 
>places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is not 
>available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so where 
>have other people found tires?
>
> --Nels Anderson
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From nels at flightsim.com  Sat Jul  3 13:16:46 2010
From: nels at flightsim.com (Nels Anderson)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 15:16:46 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <EE38F159C7994846954B85DEE7A229E9@GATEWAY>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
	<EE38F159C7994846954B85DEE7A229E9@GATEWAY>
Message-ID: <4C2F8C9E.5070406@flightsim.com>

Thank you everyone for the feedback. I was pretty discouraged when my 
usual tire store told me how rare these tires are but encouraged by 
feedback from the group here I did some more investigation and found 
another local store that had them in their local warehouse, so I'll be 
back on the road Tuesday.

--Nels Anderson

>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nels Anderson" <nels at flightsim.com>
> To: <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:18 AM
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
>
>> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local 
>> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) 
>> is not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, 
>> so where have other people found tires?
>>
>> --Nels Anderson
>> ______________________________________________

From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Sat Jul  3 17:42:43 2010
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (mgyork)
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2010 19:42:43 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <54C8B13056034DDAB54D88040D05DBDE@JQLT070909>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
	<54C8B13056034DDAB54D88040D05DBDE@JQLT070909>
Message-ID: <4C2FCAF3.30309@comcast.net>

The easy way to get these Kumho tires is to go to the Tire Rack website 
and order them there.  They also have local approved installers who 
mount and balance them for a decent price.  I got some this size for my 
Volvo 1800 this past spring.  They are probably up to $45 now, but that 
is still cheap for a good highly rated tire.
Charlie

John F. Quilter wrote:
> I put a set of Kumho 165X15 radials on my TD two years ago and have  
> been quite pleased.  As I recall they were only about $35.00 each plus 
> shipping which I thought was quite a good bargan.    Can't recall who 
> I bought them from however.
>
> John F. Quilter
> Eugene,  Oregon
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nels Anderson" <nels at flightsim.com>
> To: <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 5:18 AM
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
>
>> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local 
>> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) 
>> is not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, 
>> so where have other people found tires?
>>
>> --Nels Anderson
>> ______________________________________________
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From mike at duvallvideo.com  Sat Jul  3 21:57:35 2010
From: mike at duvallvideo.com (Duvall Video Productions)
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 22:57:35 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: tire sizes
References: <1DF1ABDB-E7FC-4AF4-93B1-1EB20FAE4D49@me.com>
Message-ID: <8BD7B3F6-B7D2-4222-8442-5B6E689E0E06@duvallvideo.com>

> If your at all concerned about the age of tires, don't buy old  
> inventory sizes.  Here are alternative sizes from the manufactures  
> association.  At the site below you can compare diameters or you can  
> just call someplace like the Tire Rack or Discount Tire....
>
> P165/80R15, 175R15, P195/75R15, 205/75R15, P185/70R15,
> 175/70R15, P185/65R15, 185/65R15, P195/60R15, 195/60R15,
> P205/55R15, 205/55R15
>
>
> http://www.1010tires.com/Tiresizecalculator.asp
>
>>
>> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
>> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size  
>> (165SR15) is
>> not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so
>> where have other people found tires?
>>
>> --Nels Anderson

From crownwheel at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 04:50:53 2010
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 06:50:53 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
Message-ID: <006201cb1b66$c6b843d0$5428cb70$@net>

Folks, remember that the TD wheel was not designed for tubeless tyres. Its
wheel has one ridge where as the tubeless wheel has two ridges. So, don't
forget the tubes!
Gene
Eliot, our'53 TD unrestored.
South Hero, Vermont

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Nels Anderson
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:18 AM
To: Mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires

I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local 
tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is 
not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so 
where have other people found tires?

--Nels Anderson
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From battanhr at comcast.net  Sun Jul  4 21:09:01 2010
From: battanhr at comcast.net (Howard Battan)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 20:09:01 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>

Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a 
replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is a 
34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.

Thanks for your help.

Howard Battan
Anacortes, WA
'54 TF
'57 MGA roadster
'79 MGB roadster 

From jquilter at peoplepc.com  Sun Jul  4 22:52:08 2010
From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John F. Quilter)
Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2010 21:52:08 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <10425E544A804FA9BAD25933577F428D@JQLT070909>

Because the size of the battery case in the TD/TF is pretty generous you 
have a pretty wide choice of batteries to use.  If your battery cables have 
a few inches of  extra length it doesn't even matter which side of the 
battery the positive and negative cables are on.

John F. Quilter
Eugene, Oregon
formerly of Brisbane California

1951 TD
1960 Morris Minor
1969 Austin America




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 8:09 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size


> Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a 
> replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is 
> a 34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Howard Battan
> Anacortes, WA
> '54 TF
> '57 MGA roadster
> '79 MGB roadster ______________________________________________
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From crownwheel at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 04:51:33 2010
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 06:51:33 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>

When Eliot (our 53 TD) arrived in '98, he sported a new Sears Die Hard. I
noted that after we came back from a drive, there was liquid around the
filler ports of the battery. In putting the problem to the "List", and the
suggestion was to readjusted the regulator but that did not solve the
problem. Even with a Sure Charge V for maintenance, the liquid appeared. 
The Die Hard died and it was replaced with an Interstate. That Interstate is
stilling serving me after 7 years. It is also placed on maintenance with a
Sure Charge V in the off season and not a drop of liquid is seen. Oh, yes, I
did return the regulator settings to what it originally was. Lesson learned.
Good luck.
Gene 
Eliot our '53 TD Unrestored
South Hero, Vermont

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Howard Battan
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 11:09 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size

Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a 
replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is a

34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.

Thanks for your help.

Howard Battan
Anacortes, WA
'54 TF
'57 MGA roadster
'79 MGB roadster 
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From tsouthworth70 at hotmail.com  Mon Jul  5 07:12:58 2010
From: tsouthworth70 at hotmail.com (Tuck Southworth)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:12:58 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C2FCAF3.30309@comcast.net>
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>,
	<54C8B13056034DDAB54D88040D05DBDE@JQLT070909>,
	<4C2FCAF3.30309@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <BLU129-W3D5311A68600E05DF4879BFB10@phx.gbl>

I switched to Kumho's after I could no longer find the Cooper Sports that I've
used for years.  No problem finding the them locally but its becoming harder
to find a shop that will mount and properly balance tires on wire rims.

Tuck

> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 19:42:43 -0400
> From: mgcharlie at comcast.net
> CC: Mg-t at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
> The easy way to get these Kumho tires is to go to the Tire Rack website
> and order them there. They also have local approved installers who
> mount and balance them for a decent price. I got some this size for my
> Volvo 1800 this past spring. They are probably up to $45 now, but that
> is still cheap for a good highly rated tire.
> Charlie
>
> John F. Quilter wrote:
> > I put a set of Kumho 165X15 radials on my TD two years ago and have
> > been quite pleased. As I recall they were only about $35.00 each plus
> > shipping which I thought was quite a good bargan. Can't recall who
> > I bought them from however.
> >
> > John F. Quilter
> > Eugene, Oregon
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nels Anderson" <nels at flightsim.com>
> > To: <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 5:18 AM
> > Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
> >
> >
> >> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
> >> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15)
> >> is not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this,
> >> so where have other people found tires?
> >>
> >> --Nels Anderson
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From rddell at mindspring.com  Mon Jul  5 07:48:41 2010
From: rddell at mindspring.com (Dick Dell)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 09:48:41 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t]  Fwd: tire sizes and age
References: <1DF1ABDB-E7FC-4AF4-93B1-1EB20FAE4D49@me.com>
	<8BD7B3F6-B7D2-4222-8442-5B6E689E0E06@duvallvideo.com>
Message-ID: <4A9FF51A71154DD7A1CA9BF14E9A519B@GATEWAY>

One last note in tires. Most of our T-series don't get used at high speed 
but a tire failure can still be very dangerous. Most safety groups now state 
that tires older than 6 years old should not be put on a car. Here's a quick 
link to tell when your tires were manufactured.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiretech/techpage.jsp?techid=11

Dick Dell


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duvall Video Productions" <mike at duvallvideo.com>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:57 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] Fwd: tire sizes


>> If your at all concerned about the age of tires, don't buy old  inventory 
>> sizes.  Here are alternative sizes from the manufactures  association. 
>> At the site below you can compare diameters or you can  just call 
>> someplace like the Tire Rack or Discount Tire....
>>
>> P165/80R15, 175R15, P195/75R15, 205/75R15, P185/70R15,
>> 175/70R15, P185/65R15, 185/65R15, P195/60R15, 195/60R15,
>> P205/55R15, 205/55R15
>>
>>
>> http://www.1010tires.com/Tiresizecalculator.asp
>>
>>>
>>> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
>>> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size  (165SR15) 
>>> is
>>> not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so
>>> where have other people found tires?
>>>
>>> --Nels Anderson
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From waltonps at yahoo.com  Mon Jul  5 08:59:50 2010
From: waltonps at yahoo.com (Walton Smith)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 07:59:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <350447.2730.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Hello Howard,
If you are happy with the 34R; use a BCI group 34. The 34 is the
same 
size, however the post are reversed on the 34R. The modern battery of
today is 
more universal with the terminal post generally are offset of
center, and no 
longer dedicated to the extreme edge. 

Any deep cycle battery
would be a good choice. Look for a battery with a high 
ampere hour rating and
long reserve capacity, as the cold cranking amps (CCA) is 
of very little
consequence in our cars.
Walt
1951 MGTD 
Brentwood, CA
Walton Smith
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, July 4, 2010 8:09:01 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] MG
TF Battery size

Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I
need a replacement. 
Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there
now is a 34R, which 
doesn't seem to be a common number.

Thanks for your
help.

Howard Battan
Anacortes, WA
'54 TF
'57 MGA roadster
'79 MGB roadster
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From battanhr at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 12:11:28 2010
From: battanhr at comcast.net (Howard Battan)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:11:28 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
Message-ID: <39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>

Thanks for the info, Gene. What group number is the Interstate battery that 
you used?

Howard

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:51 AM
To: "'Howard Battan'" <battanhr at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size

> When Eliot (our 53 TD) arrived in '98, he sported a new Sears Die Hard. I
> noted that after we came back from a drive, there was liquid around the
> filler ports of the battery. In putting the problem to the "List", and the
> suggestion was to readjusted the regulator but that did not solve the
> problem. Even with a Sure Charge V for maintenance, the liquid appeared.
> The Die Hard died and it was replaced with an Interstate. That Interstate 
> is
> stilling serving me after 7 years. It is also placed on maintenance with a
> Sure Charge V in the off season and not a drop of liquid is seen. Oh, yes, 
> I
> did return the regulator settings to what it originally was. Lesson 
> learned.
> Good luck.
> Gene

From battanhr at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 12:16:56 2010
From: battanhr at comcast.net (Howard Battan)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 11:16:56 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <350447.2730.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<350447.2730.qm@web65411.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <DC5C471F31CA4CCC97DB3DBE415073D7@XPS9000PC>

Thanks, Walt. The size 34R fits fine, but since I'll also going to switch
polarity (for GPS use, primarily), I'd probably use the standard terminal
group 34 - if I can find it.

I hadn't thought about using a deep cycle battery for this application -
probably not a bad idea since the TF sits unused for extended periods. Anyone
else have thoughts on the use of deep cycle batteries in these older cars?

Thanks

Howard


From: Walton Smith
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 7:59 AM
To: Howard Battan ; mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size


Hello Howard,
If you are happy with the 34R; use a BCI group 34. The 34 is the same size,
however the post are reversed on the 34R. The modern battery of today is more
universal with the terminal post generally are offset of center, and no longer
dedicated to the extreme edge.
Any deep cycle battery would be a good choice. Look for a battery with a high
ampere hour rating and long reserve capacity, as the cold cranking amps (CCA)
is of very little consequence in our cars.
Walt
1951 MGTD
Brentwood, CA
Walton Smith

From rddell at mindspring.com  Mon Jul  5 13:47:01 2010
From: rddell at mindspring.com (Dick Dell)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:47:01 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net><5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC><000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
	<39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <7D9B976B9E9C47B0B122841ECFB566C3@GATEWAY>

I have had similar experiences in the past with Interstate and Sears 
Diehard.

I have had many failures of the Diehards and always excellent service from 
the Interstates. About 10 years ago there was an excellent comparison by 
Consumer Reports that showed Interstate at the very top by a wide margin and 
Diehard in dead last.

For curiosity, I just went to Consumer Reports today and checked the latest 
battery comparison. There were some surprises in there. First of all, they 
had comparisons by battery size (group). (Sorry I can't send a link, it's a 
members only report.)

For the group 65 and group 34, the Diehard Platinum came in at the top! Of 
course the cost at $190 is about double the average cost. The standard 
Diehards came in dead last with some of the worst ratings.

Interstate Megatron Plus came in number 1 for the group 24 batteries but the 
lower priced Interstate came in last with a 'poor' rating.

One of the few batteries rated 'best buy' with excellent performance and 
reasonable cost was the Kirkland Signature 12866. This battery is only sold 
through Costco. Anyone have experience with this battery?

Dick Dell



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
To: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size


> Thanks for the info, Gene. What group number is the Interstate battery 
> that you used?
>
> Howard
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:51 AM
> To: "'Howard Battan'" <battanhr at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
>
>> When Eliot (our 53 TD) arrived in '98, he sported a new Sears Die Hard. I
>> noted that after we came back from a drive, there was liquid around the
>> filler ports of the battery. In putting the problem to the "List", and 
>> the
>> suggestion was to readjusted the regulator but that did not solve the
>> problem. Even with a Sure Charge V for maintenance, the liquid appeared.
>> The Die Hard died and it was replaced with an Interstate. That Interstate 
>> is
>> stilling serving me after 7 years. It is also placed on maintenance with 
>> a
>> Sure Charge V in the off season and not a drop of liquid is seen. Oh, 
>> yes, I
>> did return the regulator settings to what it originally was. Lesson 
>> learned.
>> Good luck.
>> Gene
> ______________________________________________
>
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From fogbro1 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 13:52:04 2010
From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 15:52:04 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
	<006201cb1b66$c6b843d0$5428cb70$@net>
Message-ID: <705DB040416D4B8B96DDBA85964BDDC0@Edscomputer>

Re tubeless tires w/o tubes: I beg to differ.

The following if from the another list:

"There has been lots of discussion on that point over the years.  The issue
involves the lack of "safety beads", which were added to many car wheels at
about the same time as the transition from tube to tubeless tires.  In
theory, the beads help keep the tire from coming off the rim after a total
loss of pressure.

But IMO, using a tubeless tire (without a tube) on a rim without safety
beads is no worse (and possibly even better) than using a tube-type tire on
it.  The beads only help a little, to prevent a situation that is unlikely
to arise with our cars; plus tubeless tires are much less prone to a sudden
loss of pressure (blowout) than tubed tires are. "

But I wouldn't put them on a Ford Explorer"

So, the second bead has nothing to do with the normal operation of the 
wheel/tire as I understand it. I drove a TR3 for many years with tubeless 
tires w/o tubes.

But your opinion may vary. Proceed at your own risk.

Ed Woods

From curt at roadstershop.net  Mon Jul  5 15:36:56 2010
From: curt at roadstershop.net (Curt Curtiss)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 16:36:56 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com>

I got tired of the leaking so I ended up putting in an Optima in our
55 TF and out 1947 TC that I picked up from Costco.

Curt Curtiss
Brentwood, TN
1947 MGTC
1955 MGTF
1957 TR3

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Howard Battan <battanhr at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a
> replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is
a
> 34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Howard Battan
> Anacortes, WA
> '54 TF
> '57 MGA roadster
> '79 MGB roadster ______________________________________________
>
> Mg-t at autox.team.net
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From ted at the-jacksons.ca  Mon Jul  5 16:32:36 2010
From: ted at the-jacksons.ca (Ted Jackson)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 18:32:36 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <7D9B976B9E9C47B0B122841ECFB566C3@GATEWAY>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
	<39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>
	<7D9B976B9E9C47B0B122841ECFB566C3@GATEWAY>
Message-ID: <6BA1F7BD-2995-45BF-B547-C7EEE1CE0E02@the-jacksons.ca>

I have a Kirkland 207250 in my TD for 2 or 3 years without problem. No idea
how it relates to 12866.

Ted Jackson (Ipod)

On 2010-07-05, at 3:47 PM, "Dick Dell" <rddell at mindspring.com> wrote:

> I have had similar experiences in the past with Interstate and Sears
Diehard.
>
> I have had many failures of the Diehards and always excellent service from
the Interstates. About 10 years ago there was an excellent comparison by
Consumer Reports that showed Interstate at the very top by a wide margin and
Diehard in dead last.
>
> For curiosity, I just went to Consumer Reports today and checked the latest
battery comparison. There were some surprises in there. First of all, they had
comparisons by battery size (group). (Sorry I can't send a link, it's a
members only report.)
>
> For the group 65 and group 34, the Diehard Platinum came in at the top! Of
course the cost at $190 is about double the average cost. The standard
Diehards came in dead last with some of the worst ratings.
>
> Interstate Megatron Plus came in number 1 for the group 24 batteries but the
lower priced Interstate came in last with a 'poor' rating.
>
> One of the few batteries rated 'best buy' with excellent performance and
reasonable cost was the Kirkland Signature 12866. This battery is only sold
through Costco. Anyone have experience with this battery?
>
> Dick Dell
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
> To: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 2:11 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
>
>
>> Thanks for the info, Gene. What group number is the Interstate battery that
you used?
>>
>> Howard
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
>> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:51 AM
>> To: "'Howard Battan'" <battanhr at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
>> Subject: RE: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
>>
>>> When Eliot (our 53 TD) arrived in '98, he sported a new Sears Die Hard. I
>>> noted that after we came back from a drive, there was liquid around the
>>> filler ports of the battery. In putting the problem to the "List", and
the
>>> suggestion was to readjusted the regulator but that did not solve the
>>> problem. Even with a Sure Charge V for maintenance, the liquid appeared.
>>> The Die Hard died and it was replaced with an Interstate. That Interstate
is
>>> stilling serving me after 7 years. It is also placed on maintenance with
a
>>> Sure Charge V in the off season and not a drop of liquid is seen. Oh, yes,
I
>>> did return the regulator settings to what it originally was. Lesson
learned.
>>> Good luck.
>>> Gene
>> ______________________________________________
>>
>> Mg-t at autox.team.net
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From spook01 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 16:50:09 2010
From: spook01 at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 17:50:09 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] =?utf-8?q?MG_TF_Battery_size?=
Message-ID: <20100705224907.3CFD4187658@autox.team.net>

Wow!!!
You got a TC at Costco??  How much and what colors can you get?

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: "Curt Curtiss" <curt at roadstershop.net>
Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 16:36
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
To: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
Cc: <mg-t at autox.team.net>


I got tired of the leaking so I ended up putting in an Optima in our
55 TF and out 1947 TC that I picked up from Costco.

Curt Curtiss
Brentwood, TN
1947 MGTC
1955 MGTF
1957 TR3

On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Howard Battan <battanhr at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a
> replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is
a
> 34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Howard Battan
> Anacortes, WA
> '54 TF
> '57 MGA roadster
> '79 MGB roadster ______________________________________________
>
> Mg-t at autox.team.net
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From spook01 at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 18:46:22 2010
From: spook01 at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:46:22 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] =?utf-8?q?MG_TF_Battery_size?=
Message-ID: <20100706004517.805EA187A4B@autox.team.net>

No doubt in a wrapped shoebox because of their size!

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

----- Reply message -----
From: "curt at HostMyRide.com" <curt at hostmyride.com>
Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 17:54
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
To: "spook01 at comcast.net" <spook01 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>, <mg-t at autox.team.net>


TC's are on special, I hear they will have M typess next week :)

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:50 PM, spook01 at comcast.net <spook01 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Wow!!!
> You got a TC at Costco?? B How much and what colors can you get?
>
> Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone
>
> ----- Reply message -----
> From: "Curt Curtiss" <curt at roadstershop.net>
> Date: Mon, Jul 5, 2010 16:36
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
> To: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
> Cc: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
>
>
> I got tired of the leaking so I ended up putting in an Optima in our
> 55 TF and out 1947 TC that I picked up from Costco.
>
> Curt Curtiss
> Brentwood, TN
> 1947 MGTC
> 1955 MGTF
> 1957 TR3
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Howard Battan <battanhr at comcast.net> wrote:
>> Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a
>> replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now is
> a
>> 34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.
>>
>> Thanks for your help.
>>
>> Howard Battan
>> Anacortes, WA
>> '54 TF
>> '57 MGA roadster
>> '79 MGB roadster ______________________________________________
>>
>> Mg-t at autox.team.net
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From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 19:12:27 2010
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:12:27 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
	<39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>
Message-ID: <4C3282FB.1030302@comcast.net>

Howard,
I haven't seen an answer that I was expecting.  I do not have a TF, but 
have a TD.  As I recall group 27 was the original size.  They are very 
large and heavy, but occasionally I run across one, either at a big box 
store, warehouse club, or battery store.
The last one I got for my Healey 3000 at a local battery store.  Price 
was reasonable.  My TD has a group 24 in it which are around the same 
height, but shorter in length.  Either can be found in the "F" version 
(Ford?) with the terminals reversed. One of them works well when you 
have changed to negative ground.
Either battery has enough power to easily start an XPAG.  Both are 
vintage groups, so may not be available everywhere.
Charlie

Howard Battan wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Gene. What group number is the Interstate battery 
> that you used?
>
> Howard
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 3:51 AM
> To: "'Howard Battan'" <battanhr at comcast.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Subject: RE: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
>
>> When Eliot (our 53 TD) arrived in '98, he sported a new Sears Die 
>> Hard. I
>> noted that after we came back from a drive, there was liquid around the
>> filler ports of the battery. In putting the problem to the "List", 
>> and the
>> suggestion was to readjusted the regulator but that did not solve the
>> problem. Even with a Sure Charge V for maintenance, the liquid appeared.
>> The Die Hard died and it was replaced with an Interstate. That 
>> Interstate is
>> stilling serving me after 7 years. It is also placed on maintenance 
>> with a
>> Sure Charge V in the off season and not a drop of liquid is seen. Oh, 
>> yes, I
>> did return the regulator settings to what it originally was. Lesson 
>> learned.
>> Good luck.
>> Gene
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From cgmoog at attglobal.net  Mon Jul  5 19:44:43 2010
From: cgmoog at attglobal.net (cgmoog at attglobal.net)
Date: Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
Message-ID: <4C328A8B.7040803@attglobal.net>

Tire Rack no longer catties the Kumho PowerStars in 15 inch sizes 
(155/80R13, 185/70R13, 175/65R14, 205/70R14 only)

They no longer carry any 165/80R15 tires.  I believe Kumho stopped 
importing that size, though they are still available from some suppliers.

Other sources (I've never purchased from any of these)

Kumho 758s for $55.47 plus shipping; Nankang's for $43.31
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Page.cfm

Sears lists the Nankangs as do alot of online retailers

From battanhr at comcast.net  Mon Jul  5 22:40:45 2010
From: battanhr at comcast.net (Howard Battan)
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 21:40:45 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <4C3282FB.1030302@comcast.net>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<000b01cb1c30$089f0bc0$19dd2340$@net>
	<39137B11C85B4C0B9360453696713EF8@XPS9000PC>
	<4C3282FB.1030302@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <36A18E8692D7438A96590094AE3A1C93@XPS9000PC>

Thanks Charlie. It seems that I have a pretty large choice of options, and 
that most modern batteries will do the job.  From the numbers I have seen 
listed, and the dimensions of the battery box, I'll find something that will 
work. I still do wonder if the deep cycle battery is a good idea, or just 
extra expense.

Howard



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Charlie Baldwin" <mgcharlie at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 6:12 PM
To: "Howard Battan" <battanhr at comcast.net>
Cc: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size

> Howard,
> I haven't seen an answer that I was expecting.  I do not have a TF, but
> have a TD.  As I recall group 27 was the original size.  They are very
> large and heavy, but occasionally I run across one, either at a big box
> store, warehouse club, or battery store.
> The last one I got for my Healey 3000 at a local battery store.  Price
> was reasonable.  My TD has a group 24 in it which are around the same
> height, but shorter in length.  Either can be found in the "F" version
> (Ford?) with the terminals reversed. One of them works well when you
> have changed to negative ground.
> Either battery has enough power to easily start an XPAG.  Both are
> vintage groups, so may not be available everywhere.
> Charlie

From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Tue Jul  6 07:40:39 2010
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 08:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <4C328A8B.7040803@attglobal.net>
References: <4C328A8B.7040803@attglobal.net>
Message-ID: <8CA6D1C18F1447148196AAE895CF8815@roundabout.com>

The best current deal I found is the 165s from Nexen. The additional benefit
is they are inexpensive ($50 - $60) and are an 80 profile.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of cgmoog at attglobal.net
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:45 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires

Tire Rack no longer catties the Kumho PowerStars in 15 inch sizes 
(155/80R13, 185/70R13, 175/65R14, 205/70R14 only)

They no longer carry any 165/80R15 tires.  I believe Kumho stopped 
importing that size, though they are still available from some suppliers.

Other sources (I've never purchased from any of these)

Kumho 758s for $55.47 plus shipping; Nankang's for $43.31
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Page.cfm

Sears lists the Nankangs as do alot of online retailers
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From crownwheel at comcast.net  Tue Jul  6 09:12:26 2010
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 11:12:26 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
In-Reply-To: <8CA6D1C18F1447148196AAE895CF8815@roundabout.com>
References: <4C328A8B.7040803@attglobal.net>
	<8CA6D1C18F1447148196AAE895CF8815@roundabout.com>
Message-ID: <004301cb1d1d$a4eb6b20$eec24160$@net>

BTW, have you checked Coker Tire or Universal Tire. Both have a good
selection as well as tubes and scuff bands for the wheel.
g

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Lew Palmer
Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 9:41 AM
To: cgmoog at attglobal.net; mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires

The best current deal I found is the 165s from Nexen. The additional benefit
is they are inexpensive ($50 - $60) and are an 80 profile.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of cgmoog at attglobal.net
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 8:45 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires

Tire Rack no longer catties the Kumho PowerStars in 15 inch sizes 
(155/80R13, 185/70R13, 175/65R14, 205/70R14 only)

They no longer carry any 165/80R15 tires.  I believe Kumho stopped 
importing that size, though they are still available from some suppliers.

Other sources (I've never purchased from any of these)

Kumho 758s for $55.47 plus shipping; Nankang's for $43.31
http://www.discountedwheelwarehouse.com/Page.cfm

Sears lists the Nankangs as do alot of online retailers
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From jquilter at peoplepc.com  Tue Jul  6 21:36:22 2010
From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John F. Quilter)
Date: Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:36:22 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
References: <4C2F2A7B.2020402@flightsim.com>
	<006201cb1b66$c6b843d0$5428cb70$@net>
Message-ID: <8ABF7D62AE7547A19EC12F894672ED11@JQLT070909>

Well, you may be right but I ran tubeless bias plies on my TD for 28 years 
until the sidewalls looked like a dry lake bed and I finally broke down and 
got some new Kumhos, also tubeless.  No problems with either tires so far. 
Maybe I'm just lucky.

John Quilter
Eugene,  Oregon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene" <crownwheel at comcast.net>
To: "'Nels Anderson'" <nels at flightsim.com>; <Mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2010 3:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires


> Folks, remember that the TD wheel was not designed for tubeless tyres. Its
> wheel has one ridge where as the tubeless wheel has two ridges. So, don't
> forget the tubes!
> Gene
> Eliot, our'53 TD unrestored.
> South Hero, Vermont
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Nels Anderson
> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 8:18 AM
> To: Mg-t at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD Tires
>
> I think it's time for some new tires for my car. In calling the local
> tire places I was surprised to find that the necessary size (165SR15) is
> not available. I'm sure I'm not the first person to run into this, so
> where have other people found tires?
>
> --Nels Anderson
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From LarryShoer at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 19:17:26 2010
From: LarryShoer at comcast.net (Larry Shoer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:17:26 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] FW:  MG TF Battery size
Message-ID: <37495C040F909C4693AE1093D0436B7C611F24@backlot01.BacklotTechnologies.local>

I use a Walmart Part no. MAXX-34N battery in my positive earth TD,
$68.48 in 2007.  It comes close to filling the battery shelf.  It is
rated at 925 cranking amps and 770 cold cranking amps, with a footprint
of 6 5/8" X 9 7/8" and a height of 7 1/8".  I like the Walmart battery
because I can strip the loud stickers off the battery, making it look
much more at home in the engine compartment.

Larry

From LarryShoer at comcast.net  Wed Jul  7 19:18:47 2010
From: LarryShoer at comcast.net (Larry Shoer)
Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 21:18:47 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] FW:  MG TD Tires
Message-ID: <37495C040F909C4693AE1093D0436B7C611F26@backlot01.BacklotTechnologies.local>

I'm running with Vredestein tires on my wire-wheeled MG TD, purchased
from Tires Unlimited (www.tiresunlimited.com) in 2007: 165R15 radial
tires ($68.99 each), radial inner tubes ($8.07 each).

When I researched tires in 2007 I found the following retailers offered
the 165R15 size.  I don't know which of these companies still sell this
size today.  (A quick check showed at least one tire option from
Universal Vintage Tire on their website.)

Sources for one or more brand of 165R15 tires included (2007):

Universal Vintage Tire
2994 Elizabethtown Rd
Hershey, PA 17033
800-233-3827
http://www.universaltire.com/

British Wire Wheels
4254 North Selland Avenue
Fresno, California 93722 USA
800-947-3943
www.britishwirewheel.com
bwwsales at pacbell.net

Tires Unlimited
4742 Wadsworth Road
Dayton, OH 45414
800-628-4737
www.tiresunlimited.com
info at tiresunlimited.com

Coker Tires
1317 Chestnut Street
Chattanooga, Tennessee
800-251-6336
www.coker.com

Tires By Web
East Lansing, MI
800-576-1009
www.tiresbyweb.com
tiresbyweb at tiresbyweb.com

Tire Factory
5000 Northwind Drive
East Lansing, MI 48823
800-576-1009
www.tirefactory.net

Tires-Easy
P.O. Box 596
Newport Beach, CA 92661
www.tires-easy.com
tires at delti.com

Diamond Back Classics
4753 Highway 90
Conway, SC 29526
888-922-1642
www.diamondbacktires.com

Performance Plus Tire & Automotive
3910 Cherry Ave.
Long Beach, CA 90807
888-926-2689
www.performanceplustire.com

Larry

From johnsfolly at gmail.com  Thu Jul  8 21:49:20 2010
From: johnsfolly at gmail.com (JohnD)
Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 23:49:20 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TF Battery size
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net>
	<5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC>
	<AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AANLkTilLy7GpSROGXqhwn8s7Nxd1is44mlZ23C3ly42e@mail.gmail.com>

I have used Interstate and the Costco batteries (Kirkland) in a variety of
cars and had excellent results. But I just replaced the battery in my TD
with an absorbed glass mat (AGM) battery to avoid any problems with gassing
and corrosion on the firewall. When I shopped, the Optimas and Odyssey
batteries had really gone up in price. I noticed that Westco, who market AGM
motorcycle batteries made by Panasonic, have a small battery designed for
the Mazda Miata (thank you Moss advertising flyer!).  I did a google search
and went with the lowest price I could find in a Westco Miata battery. It's
the size of a lunch box, has sufficient CCA for a T-car, and takes up so
little space I have the balance of the battery box for carrying a quart of
oil, bottle of gas additive, and miscellaneous other stuff. I sprayed the
battery black and stuck a Lucas sticker on it. It's not the way to treat a
show car but it seemed like a good use of space and technology.
John Deikis
Chelsea, MI

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Curt Curtiss <curt at roadstershop.net> wrote:

> I got tired of the leaking so I ended up putting in an Optima in our
> 55 TF and out 1947 TC that I picked up from Costco.
>
> Curt Curtiss
> Brentwood, TN
> 1947 MGTC
> 1955 MGTF
> 1957 TR3
>
> On Sun, Jul 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM, Howard Battan <battanhr at comcast.net>
> wrote:
> > Hi Folks. The battery in my '54 TF has bit the dust, and I need a
> > replacement. Is the Group 26 the best replacement? The one in there now
> is
> a
> > 34R, which doesn't seem to be a common number.
> >
> > Thanks for your help.
> >
> > Howard Battan
> > Anacortes, WA
> > '54 TF
> > '57 MGA roadster
> > '79 MGB roadster ______________________________________________
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Racing in the Past Lane!

From shop at justbrits.com  Sat Jul 10 18:25:34 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:25:34 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] [Fwd: [Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT? Hmmmm]
Message-ID: <4C390F7E.6010609@justbrits.com>

I know NOTHING other then info below and on the CL page.
NFI, YMMV, FYI, yada, yada, yada <G> !!!
Ed
Please visit MY site at:
www.justbrits.com
[with LOTS of 1st time offers for Listers in the
For Sale areas which ARE soon to go to fleabay -:(.]
[with MGA & MGB stuff listed ! ]

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: 	[Spridgets] well written ad...Buick or MGB-GT? Hmmmm
Date: 	Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:41:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: 	
To: 	Spridgets at autox.team.net


http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/1833891747.html

 Edward P.
Snohomish, WA
78 Midget (1275)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/lbc_newbie/
_______________________________________________

From drmoyce at ent-oakland.com  Sat Jul 10 19:10:18 2010
From: drmoyce at ent-oakland.com (Andrew Moyce)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 18:10:18 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] Generator revisited
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTilLy7GpSROGXqhwn8s7Nxd1is44mlZ23C3ly42e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net><5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC><AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com>
	<AANLkTilLy7GpSROGXqhwn8s7Nxd1is44mlZ23C3ly42e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C88A2@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>

A few weeks ago I posted about my TD generator.  It's a rebuilt Lucas,
about a year old.  The ignition light wouldn't extinguish and no charge
on the ammeter.   The testing from the shop manual points to the field
coils (shorting the field and output terminals together, then measuring
voltage between them and ground yields only about 1 volt, up to about
1500 RPM.)
I had an older generator with intact field coils, so I swapped bodies
(with field coils) reassembled with the new armature and brushes,  and
got the same result.
Weeks passed, with other cares getting in the way.  I reassembled the
rebuilt in its own case and put it back on the car.  Start the engine .
. . ign light stays on.
I left the engine on while getting tools together to take the generator
off, and then  noted that the ign light was now off. Increasing RPM
showed positive movement in the ammeter, so all is well, right?
Turned off the engine and restarted . . . ign light stays on for about 3
or 4 minutes, then all seems right again.
Tried a third time and the light won't go off, though revving the engine
makes it glow brighter, which suggests that the generator is talking to
someone.

Questions:
What's with the intermittent charging (fan belt is not slipping)
Could both field coils be bad?

This all started after the front generator bracket broke, which caused
torque on the old generator, wore the bearing and caused the armature to
rub against the field coil (visible damage inside the casing.) Could
this be happening again, if the replacement bracket isn't perfectly
lined up?

I don't want to rebuild/replace the generator and have the same thing
happen next year.

Andy Moyce
52 TD

From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Sat Jul 10 19:33:24 2010
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2010 20:33:24 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Generator revisited
In-Reply-To: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C88A2@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>
References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net><5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC><AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com><AANLkTilLy7GpSROGXqhwn8s7Nxd1is44mlZ23C3ly42e@mail.gmail.com>
	<8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB14C88A2@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>
Message-ID: <08F6C0CE63A04CD78B7EEB27CE9DED1A@roundabout.com>

Try cleaning the points in the regulator (with the battery disconnected). A
lot of good regulators are thrown away for lack of a good cleaning of the
points.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Andrew Moyce
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 8:10 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] Generator revisited

A few weeks ago I posted about my TD generator.  It's a rebuilt Lucas,
about a year old.  The ignition light wouldn't extinguish and no charge
on the ammeter.   The testing from the shop manual points to the field
coils (shorting the field and output terminals together, then measuring
voltage between them and ground yields only about 1 volt, up to about
1500 RPM.)
I had an older generator with intact field coils, so I swapped bodies
(with field coils) reassembled with the new armature and brushes,  and
got the same result.
Weeks passed, with other cares getting in the way.  I reassembled the
rebuilt in its own case and put it back on the car.  Start the engine .
. . ign light stays on.
I left the engine on while getting tools together to take the generator
off, and then  noted that the ign light was now off. Increasing RPM
showed positive movement in the ammeter, so all is well, right?
Turned off the engine and restarted . . . ign light stays on for about 3
or 4 minutes, then all seems right again.
Tried a third time and the light won't go off, though revving the engine
makes it glow brighter, which suggests that the generator is talking to
someone.

Questions:
What's with the intermittent charging (fan belt is not slipping)
Could both field coils be bad?

This all started after the front generator bracket broke, which caused
torque on the old generator, wore the bearing and caused the armature to
rub against the field coil (visible damage inside the casing.) Could
this be happening again, if the replacement bracket isn't perfectly
lined up?

I don't want to rebuild/replace the generator and have the same thing
happen next year.

Andy Moyce
52 TD
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From Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz  Thu Jul 15 16:19:34 2010
From: Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz (Douglas Ormrod)
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 10:19:34 +1200
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list
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Hi T listers

I have given a couple of T guys in New Zealand info on how to join the
list. They both got a message saying the moderator needs to approve it,
but nothing since. One was about three months ago and one a few weeks
ago.

Who looks after this side of things?

Cheers

Douglas

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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 15 17:49:39 2010
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:49:39 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list
In-Reply-To: <D90EBE7D0FC5544994DE4B0D5283EC4417C52A@NFSVR01.neurological.local>
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The moderator, which is me, should have nothing to do
with it.  Most likely you gave them wrong information
or they can't go to a website and click on a few buttons.

What, exactly, did you tell them?

mjb.

From waltonps at yahoo.com  Thu Jul 15 18:29:54 2010
From: waltonps at yahoo.com (Walton Smith)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:29:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list
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References: <mailman.23.1278266403.8201.mg-t@autox.team.net><5444E9A003F04FEE938D2C496643E5DD@XPS9000PC><AANLkTikAOg1a9PjvjR_s0eG55JVqcFMCQbJXj45WqNFq@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <962784.6978.qm@web65409.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Afternoon Douglas, 
I noticed the footer of your email has a bTb list
suggested annual donation of 
$11.47; however bazaar or maybe inappropriate
this new practice, you would think 
there was someone there on the receiving
end.
Of course if you know a few kiwis wanting to join a list and send some
money; I 
can custom tailor a list or two specifically for them. Naturally
there would be 
a small finderbs fee thrown in for Dr.D.!
All kidding aside;
the following is taken from the bTeamb website and may be of 
some
assistance.
B 
The British-cars list, and others located at autox.team.net are
run by an 
automated "list Server", called majordomo. You can find information
about this 
majordomo by sending the command help on the first line of an
e-mail message to: 
majordomo at autox.team.net
Many other lists are run from
different machines all over the world.
B 
Hope this is of some use as it sure
would be nice to add a few more folks from 
the Godzone.
Best Regards;
Walt
Brentwood, CA
1951 TD
B 
Walton Smith




________________________________
From: Douglas Ormrod <Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz>
To:
mg-t at autox.team.net
Sent: Thu, July 15, 2010 3:19:34 PM
Subject: [Mg-t]
Joining the list

Hi T listers

I have given a couple of T guys in New Zealand
info on how to join the
list. They both got a message saying the moderator
needs to approve it,
but nothing since. One was about three months ago and one
a few weeks
ago.

Who looks after this side of things?

Cheers

Douglas
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From mark at bradakis.com  Thu Jul 15 23:21:35 2010
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 23:21:35 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list
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Walton Smith wrote:
> Afternoon Douglas,
> I noticed the footer of your email has a
> suggested annual donation of
> $11.47; however bazaar or maybe inappropriate
> this new practice, you would think
> there was someone there on the receiving
> end.
>    

I should update that.  The 11.47 was likely just copied over
from the Spitfire list, as 1147 cc is the displacement of the
Mark 1 and 2 Spit motors.  I should pick something more
appropriate for MG T series cars.  Of course some folks are
not about to support Team.Net as they believe it just appears
by magic, there certainly can't be a real person keeping the
servers running, paying for the ISP bill, paying for the network
connection, trying to keep the hardware reasonably up to date.
Nope, certainly nobody would do something like that.
> All kidding aside;
> the following is taken from the Team website and may be of
> some
> assistance.
>
> The British-cars list, and others located at autox.team.net are
> run by an
> automated "list Server", called majordomo.
>    
Gee, noticing the suggested donation but completely
missing the link to the *mailman* list management page.
It has been quite some time since majordomo was used.

A number of modern mailers will display RFC2369 headers
as clickable links if set up properly.  These RFC2369 headers
included in all the messages sent are lines like:

List-Id: MG T series vehicle discussion <mg-t.autox.team.net>
List-Unsubscribe: <http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-t>,
<mailto:mg-t-request at autox.team.net?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Post: <mailto:mg-t at autox.team.net>
List-Help: <mailto:mg-t-request at autox.team.net?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t>,
<mailto:mg-t-request at autox.team.net?subject=subscribe>


Also the monthly reminder has the appropriate links to mailman
as well.  The correct information is right there, all you have to do
is pay attention.

mjb.

From Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz  Fri Jul 16 14:15:30 2010
From: Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz (Douglas Ormrod)
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 08:15:30 +1200
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list
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Can't say I have every noticed the donation thing before - I have
donated through PayPay from time to time in rspose to calls for cash.
Which I am more than happy to do.

Cheers

Douglas

Dr Douglas Ormrod
Scientific Secretary
Neurological Foundation of New Zealand
PO Box 110022
66 Grafton Road (courier only)
Auckland 1148
Ph: [64 9] 309 7749 ext 4
Fax: [64 9] 377 0614
E-mail: douglas.ormrod at neurological.org.nz
Web: http://www.neurological.org.nz

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On Behalf Of Douglas Ormrod
Sent: Friday, 16 July 2010 10:20 a.m.
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] Joining the list

Hi T listers

I have given a couple of T guys in New Zealand info on how to join the
list. They both got a message saying the moderator needs to approve it,
but nothing since. One was about three months ago and one a few weeks
ago.

Who looks after this side of things?

Cheers

Douglas

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From stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net  Sun Jul 18 11:29:50 2010
From: stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net (Mark Stolzenburg)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:29:50 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List
Message-ID: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>

Ive decided to sell the TC and would like advice
on what to look out for when advertising a car on
eBay and Craigs List. Is there some type of
reference materials that tells you how to
safeguard yourself against the fraud that everyone
hears about these days and the best way to
advertise a car; i.e. on Craigs List do you
advertise nationally, locally, etc?
The last time I sold a car was in 1995. I
advertised it in the local paper and sold it.
Things have changed since then.
Thanks,
Mark Stolzenburg
St. Louis, Missouri, USA
TC 7812

From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Sun Jul 18 12:03:09 2010
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 13:03:09 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List
In-Reply-To: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
References: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <9EE52586AF4149538BAF31A5F0594173@roundabout.com>

Check with your bank. They can set up a special account only for the
transaction and can act as the financial agent. I don't have all the
details, but I'm told this is the safest way to protect yourself.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net] On
Behalf Of Mark Stolzenburg
Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 12:30 PM
To: List autox MG-T; Group Mg-Tabc
Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List

Ive decided to sell the TC and would like advice
on what to look out for when advertising a car on
eBay and Craigs List. Is there some type of
reference materials that tells you how to
safeguard yourself against the fraud that everyone
hears about these days and the best way to
advertise a car; i.e. on Craigs List do you
advertise nationally, locally, etc?
The last time I sold a car was in 1995. I
advertised it in the local paper and sold it.
Things have changed since then.
Thanks,
Mark Stolzenburg
St. Louis, Missouri, USA
TC 7812
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Sun Jul 18 13:39:03 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 15:39:03 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List
In-Reply-To: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
References: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <SNT124-W11950ACAAAE9328354FD24B7BE0@phx.gbl>

I don't know about fraud involving collector cars specifically, but the last
time I tried to sell a car I kept getting calls from people who were allegedly
using an internet service for the deaf.  I'd get a call from an "operator" who
was relaying what the "buyer" on the other end was typing.  Amazing the number
of deaf people all over the country who were interested in a not-too-special
used car in the backwoods of Vermont.

If the service was even legit at all, I assumed the "buyers" weren't, and
probably didn't want me to hear their Nigerian accents.



-Mike Eldred

Wilmington, VT

'54 TF




> From: stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net
> To: mg-t at autox.team.net; mg-tabc at yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 12:29:50 -0500
> Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List
>
> Ive decided to sell the TC and would like advice
> on what to look out for when advertising a car on
> eBay and Craigs List. Is there some type of
> reference materials that tells you how to
> safeguard yourself against the fraud that everyone
> hears about these days and the best way to
> advertise a car; i.e. on Craigs List do you
> advertise nationally, locally, etc?
> The last time I sold a car was in 1995. I
> advertised it in the local paper and sold it.
> Things have changed since then.
> Thanks,
> Mark Stolzenburg
> St. Louis, Missouri, USA
> TC 7812
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From ted at the-jacksons.ca  Sun Jul 18 16:15:51 2010
From: ted at the-jacksons.ca (Ted Jackson)
Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2010 18:15:51 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Recommendations For Sale of TC on eBay and Craig's List
In-Reply-To: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
References: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCCEMNCHAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <CAC05CD9-825A-466A-8A9B-37EE7797FCB2@the-jacksons.ca>

The scams that have been tried on some of our members have usually involved
the "buyer" sending a certified cheque for the asking price PLUS an amount to
cover shipping. You are to send that amount to the shipping company. The
certified cheque will bounce. Your cheque or money order will be honored.

Beware of any buyer who will pay your price sight unseen. Beware of any buyer
who isn't doing his due diligence about the car you are selling. Walk away
from any deal that involves you sending money to anyone. The scammers aren't
interested in what you are selling, they only want your money!

Ted Jackson (Ipod)

On 2010-07-18, at 1:29 PM, "Mark Stolzenburg" <stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

> Ive decided to sell the TC and would like advice
> on what to look out for when advertising a car on
> eBay and Craigs List. Is there some type of
> reference materials that tells you how to
> safeguard yourself against the fraud that everyone
> hears about these days and the best way to
> advertise a car; i.e. on Craigs List do you
> advertise nationally, locally, etc?
> The last time I sold a car was in 1995. I
> advertised it in the local paper and sold it.
> Things have changed since then.
> Thanks,
> Mark Stolzenburg
> St. Louis, Missouri, USA
> TC 7812
> ______________________________________________
>
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From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Thu Jul 22 08:29:22 2010
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:29:22 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Pittsburgh Vintage Grand Prix
Message-ID: <4C4855C2.2030901@comcast.net>

This question already went through the Healey list:
Are any of you planning to be at the PVGP?
ED Woods will have his TF there in the British car show and I will be 
there with my black Austin-Healey 3000 Mk.II tricarb.
I stopped into a local shop last week and saw one of the race cars being 
worked on.  It was there last year; a very nice light blue aluminum 
bodied TC special raced by Dan Leonard.  Last year the PVGP was his 
first race with this car, and although it looked really nice, he had a 
bunch of little things giving him problems.  It got sorted out as the 
year went on.
This year he has considerably more power with a new engine, so should be 
much more competitive.  Last year, the engine was close to bone stock 
and after practice he changed to the prewar class.
There are usually some very fast T series cars racing along with a bunch 
of them in the T series classes at the car show on Saturday.
Hope to see you there.
Charlie

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From battanhr at comcast.net  Sun Jul 25 16:53:07 2010
From: battanhr at comcast.net (Howard Battan)
Date: Sun, 25 Jul 2010 15:53:07 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MGTF battery again
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1278698404.23775.mg-t@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.25.1278698404.23775.mg-t@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <EAFD9225DB294B5C8D094C8F33C7F470@XPS9000PC>

Thanks to all who have replied about the type of battery to use in my 54 TF.

I've been away from home for a couple of weeks, and after putting a full 
charge on the battery before I left, the battery felt strong. After 
returning, the battery started the car easily, but when I tried again a few 
minutes later, it was out of juice, so it's off the Costco or Wal-Mart or 
NAPA to get a new one. I figure I'll go for the one with the longest full 
replacement warranty and about a 60 month total warranty.

Again, thanks for all the help.

Howard Battan
54 MGTF
57 MGA
79 MGB

From crownwheel at comcast.net  Mon Jul 26 14:12:45 2010
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 16:12:45 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Non-t
Message-ID: <014601cb2cfe$e948aa80$bbd9ff80$@net>

A friend of my son bought an MGB and I would like to give him an address of
a similar list as we are on. Any suggestions?

Gene

MGTD

From rddell at mindspring.com  Mon Jul 26 18:19:30 2010
From: rddell at mindspring.com (Dick Dell)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:19:30 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Selling tips needed
Message-ID: <8E2412CF6DAA4DE89648ADBF67D41D32@GATEWAY>

MGTers,


 Having gone through some very tough years getting my business started 
during
 the 'great recession', it looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is
 not a train this time. My small company is now doing research on electric
 and hybrid vehicles.

 Lack of money and lack of time have resulted in my old '54 MGTF sitting in
 the air conditioned, carpeted garage without being driven for about 3 years
 (I do start her up periodically).

 I have to face facts that I will have no time to do the
 needed restoration work or just to enjoy the car. So I am considering a 
sale.

 The car is a daily driver, right hand drive 1250 original engine. Yellow
 repaint over original dark green, original leather seats are dark green and
 they have been given regular hyde food. The colour combination actually
 looks quite good.

 Paint is cracking and seats could use a little work. Engine starts and runs
 well but oil pressure is low, drops to zero at idle.

 Biggest problem is that the last owner was a lady who let her daughter 
drive
 the car and the gearbox syncos are pretty shot. Slow shifting there is no
 problem but fast shifting will grind something awful. I have owned the car
 since 1976.

 So I ask the list for tips on marketing such a car. I can check recent
 prices in Hemmings and other places but I wonder where the best place would
 be to list the car (should I make the final decision to sell). Craigslist, 
Hemmings, eBay, or ?

 Your opinions are welcomed. (Including comments on whether I should sell or 
not.)

 Dick Dell
Raleigh, NC

From BudKrueger at comcast.net  Mon Jul 26 19:15:47 2010
From: BudKrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:15:47 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Non-t
In-Reply-To: <014601cb2cfe$e948aa80$bbd9ff80$@net>
References: <014601cb2cfe$e948aa80$bbd9ff80$@net>
Message-ID: <4C4E3343.6030407@comcast.net>

Gene, this list , mg-t, is a spinoff from the primary list, mgs.  Just 
substitute mgs for mg-t.

Bud

Gene wrote:
> A friend of my son bought an MGB and I would like to give him an address of
> a similar list as we are on. Any suggestions?
>
> Gene
>
> MGTD
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>
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From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Mon Jul 26 20:07:52 2010
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 22:07:52 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Non-t
In-Reply-To: <4C4E3343.6030407@comcast.net>
References: <014601cb2cfe$e948aa80$bbd9ff80$@net>
	<4C4E3343.6030407@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4C4E3F78.6070902@comcast.net>

True, but another choice is the MGB Yahoo Group which is MGB only and 
has a manageable amount of traffic.
Charlie

Bud Krueger wrote:
> Gene, this list , mg-t, is a spinoff from the primary list, mgs.  Just 
> substitute mgs for mg-t.
>
> Bud
>
> Gene wrote:
>> A friend of my son bought an MGB and I would like to give him an 
>> address of
>> a similar list as we are on. Any suggestions?
>>
>> Gene
>>
>> MGTD
>> ______________________________________________
>>
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>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Jul 26 20:20:17 2010
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:20:17 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] Non-t
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Gene wrote:
> A friend of my son bought an MGB and I would like to give him an address of
> a similar list as we are on. Any suggestions?
>
>    

Gee, it would be nice if folks would actually once in a while pay
attention to the efforts I put forth to support old cars, and go to
http://www.team.net/mailman/listinfo and poke around.

They might get a list of lists like:



            2000-register - Triumph 2000 discussion
                    6pack - 6pack TR6 discussions
                  Alpines - Sunbeam Alpine Discussion
                 Amphicar - Amphicar Enthusiasts list
             Aston-martin - Aston Martin vehicle discussion
               Autojumble - Automotive related buy and sell
                    Autox - Autocross discussion
                 Ba-autox - SF Bay Area autocross discussion
                     Bmcu - British Motor Club of Utah
                 Bmw-Mini - Discussions about the new BMW Mini
                 Bricklin - Bricklin automobile discussion
             British-cars - British car discussions
     British-cars-pre-war - Pre WWII British automobile discussion
           Buick-rover-v8 - Discussion applications for the Buick-Rover V8
                     Cahc - Cascade Austin Healey Club
              Chapman-era - British Sports cars inspired by Colin Chapman
         Curved-dash-olds - Curved Dash Oldsmobiles, 1900 - 1905
         Datsun-roadsters - Datsun Roadster discussion
                     DMVR - DMVR
             Formula-ford - Discussion of SCCA Formula Fords of various 
types
                      Fot - Friends of Triumph
         Glen-scca-racing - SCCA Glen region road racing list
                goldcoast - Gold Coast British Car Club
                      Gta - Georgia Triumph Association
                  Healeys - Austin Healey Discussion
                   Italia - Triumph Italia discussion
                  Jagnuts - JAGNUTS Regina
               Land-speed - Land Speed racing
               Lotus-cars - Lotus cars, past, present, future
                  LSUFSAE - Mailing list for LSU's FSAE Team
              LSUminibaja - [no description available]
                   Marcos - Marcos sports car discussion
                   Mg-mmm - Discussion about MG Triple M vehicles
                     Mg-t - MG T series vehicle discussion
                   Mgb-v8 - V8 powered MG discussion
                      Mgs - MG Sports Car discussion
                    Miata - Mazda Miata discussion
              Migcruisers - [no description available]
                Mini-list - Mini discussion
                  Morgans - Morgan Automobiles Discussion
                   Morris - Morris automobile discussion
                    Nobbc - North Bay British Car Club
                Oletrucks - Chevy/GM trucks from  1941 - 59
                Shop-talk - Random workshop related discussion
                 Shotimes - Ford SHO Product discussion list
              Single-malt - Scotch appreciation
                Spitfires - Triumph Spitfire Discussion
                Spridgets - Sprite and Midget discussions
            superchargers - Supercharger discussion
              Team-thicko - irreverent VIntage Racing stuff
                The-local - Random chatter for team.net folks
                   Tigers - Sunbeam Tigers
                 Triumphs - Triumph Sports car discussion
                      Tvr - TVR Sports car discussion
             Vintage-race - Various Vintage Racing issues and chatter
                     Vtow - Vintage Triumphs of Wisconsin
                      Vtr - Discussion for Vintage Triumph Register folks
               Wichitapca - Whicta PCA group
                     WMJR - Wasatch Mountain Jaguar Register


The formatting will probably be mangle by the various mail programs
invoked along the way, but the information is still valid.  And a check
of http://www.team.net/archive can provide some insight into what goes
on in these various lists.

mjb.

From crownwheel at comcast.net  Tue Jul 27 04:45:10 2010
From: crownwheel at comcast.net (Gene)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:45:10 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Non-t
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Thanks to all for your input. 
Gene
MG TD
South Hero, VT

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A friend of my son bought an MGB and I would like to give him an address of
a similar list as we are on. Any suggestions?

Gene

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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Tue Jul 27 06:06:59 2010
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:06:59 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Selling tips needed
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My two cents.  Unless you need the money, don't sell it if your intention is
to get another, better, one "someday."  Even if you do buy another in the
future, and even if it has been professionally restored, it will never match
the potential you see in your dreams for this car.  You'll kick yourself for
the rest of your life.  (Ask me about the '73 MGB I had to abandon two days
before moving overseas.)



Sounds like it needs a trans rebuild and new bearings.  Neither are as big a
deal as you might think, and can be done by someone near you.



If you must sell it, I would include NEMGTR's The Sacred Octagon on my list.
Being RHD, I would also consider advertising overseas - TFs are rare anywhere,
maybe even more so where they were made than here.  Just a couple years ago, I
believe, you would have gotten a much better price from a UK buyer than a U.S.
buyer.  Not sure about that now.



Brace yourself for scammers.



Best of luck,

-Mike Eldred

'54 MG TF

'73 Midget



> From: rddell at mindspring.com
> To: mg-t at autox.team.net
> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:19:30 -0400
> Subject: [Mg-t] Selling tips needed
>
> MGTers,
>
>
> Having gone through some very tough years getting my business started
> during
> the 'great recession', it looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is
> not a train this time. My small company is now doing research on electric
> and hybrid vehicles.
>
> Lack of money and lack of time have resulted in my old '54 MGTF sitting in
> the air conditioned, carpeted garage without being driven for about 3 years
> (I do start her up periodically).
>
> I have to face facts that I will have no time to do the
> needed restoration work or just to enjoy the car. So I am considering a
> sale.
>
> The car is a daily driver, right hand drive 1250 original engine. Yellow
> repaint over original dark green, original leather seats are dark green and
> they have been given regular hyde food. The colour combination actually
> looks quite good.
>
> Paint is cracking and seats could use a little work. Engine starts and runs
> well but oil pressure is low, drops to zero at idle.
>
> Biggest problem is that the last owner was a lady who let her daughter
> drive
> the car and the gearbox syncos are pretty shot. Slow shifting there is no
> problem but fast shifting will grind something awful. I have owned the car
> since 1976.
>
> So I ask the list for tips on marketing such a car. I can check recent
> prices in Hemmings and other places but I wonder where the best place would
> be to list the car (should I make the final decision to sell). Craigslist,
> Hemmings, eBay, or ?
>
> Your opinions are welcomed. (Including comments on whether I should sell or
> not.)
>
> Dick Dell
> Raleigh, NC
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From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Tue Jul 27 06:52:10 2010
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (BOB GRUNAU)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 08:52:10 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Selling tips needed
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Dick,
I agree with Mike, don't sell the car. You WILL be sorry. I doubt the car
sale proceeds will solve your finance crisis anyway. A RHD TF is a rare car.
After owning it for 35 years, it must be part of the family. Put a cover
over it in the corner and leave it till you can spend some time and/or money
on the car. TD/TF gearboxes can be repaired , I can repair the synchromesh
hubs with new inserts.
Low oil pressure can be many things, email or call me directly if you want
to discuss.

 "Paint is cracking and seats could use a little work ", hmmmm, take a look
in the mirror and see if the same applies to the driver  :-)  You can grow
old together.
Good luck.

Bob Grunau
Mississauga, Ontario
905-274-4136


My two cents.  Unless you need the money, don't sell it if your intention is
to get another, better, one "someday."  Even if you do buy another in the
future, and even if it has been professionally restored, it will never match
the potential you see in your dreams for this car.  You'll kick yourself for
the rest of your life.  (Ask me about the '73 MGB I had to abandon two days
before moving overseas.)
Sounds like it needs a trans rebuild and new bearings.  Neither are as big a
deal as you might think, and can be done by someone near you.
If you must sell it, I would include NEMGTR's The Sacred Octagon on my list.
Being RHD, I would also consider advertising overseas - TFs are rare
anywhere,
maybe even more so where they were made than here.  Just a couple years ago,
I
believe, you would have gotten a much better price from a UK buyer than a
U.S.
buyer.  Not sure about that now.

Brace yourself for scammers.
Best of luck,-Mike Eldred
'54 MG TF

> Having gone through some very tough years getting my business started
> during
> the 'great recession', it looks like the light at the end of the tunnel is
> not a train this time. My small company is now doing research on electric
> and hybrid vehicles.
> Lack of money and lack of time have resulted in my old '54 MGTF sitting in
> the air conditioned, carpeted garage without being driven for about 3
years
> (I do start her up periodically).
> I have to face facts that I will have no time to do the
> needed restoration work or just to enjoy the car. So I am considering a
> sale.
> The car is a daily driver, right hand drive 1250 original engine. Yellow
> repaint over original dark green, original leather seats are dark green
and
> they have been given regular hyde food. The colour combination actually
> looks quite good.
> Paint is cracking and seats could use a little work. Engine starts and
runs
> well but oil pressure is low, drops to zero at idle.
> Biggest problem is that the last owner was a lady who let her daughter
> drive
> the car and the gearbox syncos are pretty shot. Slow shifting there is no
> problem but fast shifting will grind something awful. I have owned the car
> since 1976.
> So I ask the list for tips on marketing such a car. I can check recent
> prices in Hemmings and other places but I wonder where the best place
would
> be to list the car (should I make the final decision to sell). Craigslist,
> Hemmings, eBay, or ?
> Your opinions are welcomed. (Including comments on whether I should sell
or
> not.)
> Dick Dell
 Raleigh, NC
_________________________________________

From stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net  Tue Jul 27 19:36:33 2010
From: stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net (Mark Stolzenburg)
Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 20:36:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] FOR SALE: 1949 MG- TC7812
Message-ID: <KJEJJOJFMEDJECKHLABCAEBDCIAA.stolzy40@sbcglobal.net>

Before I list TC 7812 on eBay and Craig's List, I thought I
would put the car on a couple MG enthusiast list. I believe
this will provide list members and their
friends and acquaintances the chance to have a first-look at
the car. I prefer doing this because I would favor the car
going to an MG enthusiast rather than
to local brokers who are currently hounding me. So here goes
at the risk of offending some.
Below is a brief write-up on the car. There are also
pictures and a write-up in the gallery on the mg-tabc.org
website. If interested, please contact me
off-list at: stolzy40 at sbcglobal.net

* 1949 MG TC, Serial number TC 7812, "Home" model.
* 2-1/2 year restoration to pristine condition.
* Painted Shires Green with biscuit colored interior and
leather seats.
* Includes side curtains, 1/2 tonneau, and custom-made
Stayfast top.
* Tool kit with tool roll, jack with handles, hand crank,
and accessory trouble light
included.
* Instruments sent to England for restoration by John Marks.
* Instrument Panel including choke, slow running, and
starter cables restored by Craig
Seabrook of The Whitworth Shop.
* Powder coated 19" wire wheels.
* Wheel cylinders restored by Joe Curto, Inc.
* Lever Shock Absorbers restored by Peter Caldwell @ World
Wide Auto Parts of Madison Inc.
* Wiring harness by British Wiring Inc.
* Documented Provenance that includes: Copy of original
registration number LMA 183 from the
Cheshire County Counsel dated 2-18-1949; Copy of Warranty
showing TC 7812 was produced 2-3-1949;
Original Bill of Lading showing shipment from London to NYC
dated Sept. 1964; Pictures and
history from owner who imported TC in 1964; Pictures and
history from owner who started
restoring TC in 1975; and much more.
* Winner of several awards including:
Concours d' Elegance at Forrest Park (Easter Sunday);
European Car Show; GOF (Gathering of the
Faithful) Central XXV at Lake Geneva, WI; NEMGTR GOF 77;
Chairman's Award and 1st Place at the All
British Car Show, St. Louis; and many, many, more.
Thanks,
Mark Stolzenburg
St. Louis, Missouri, USA

From shop at justbrits.com  Thu Jul 29 16:05:42 2010
From: shop at justbrits.com (Shop at " Just Brits ")
Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:05:42 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] [xxxxxx-------Spridgets] Stirling Moss-BBC excerpt.. (No
	LBC!)
Message-ID: <4C51FB36.409@justbrits.com>

 From the Spridgets List.  Pretty kewl <G> !!!

-------- Original Message --------

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/hardtalk/8849492.stm

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From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Sat Jul 31 18:34:12 2010
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:34:12 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Taste of Britain Car Show
Message-ID: <4C54C104.5010503@comcast.net>

Hello everyone,

If you're in the south central Pennsylvania area or will be in the Lancaster area of Pennsylvania on the weekend of August 22,2010 check out the "A Taste of Britain Car Show and Polo Match in Rothsville PA which is in Lancaster County near Brownstown which is north east of the City of Lancaster, South east of Harrisburg, south west of Reading and west of Philadelphia.

Here is the link for the event.

http://www.lancomgclub.com/taste_of_britain.htm

The pdf form for registration link is within the above link for downloading/printing.

Hope you can come out or if you know someone that can but isn't a group member here please pass this along to them.

Thanks. 

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