From sumton at sbcglobal.net Thu Jul 2 21:09:23 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 22:09:23 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] front brakes References: <20090418000423.rpwas5sf4rj4ckg8@webmail.athenet.net><49EA89EE.2040306@comcast.net><49EB3E3B.7070900@comcast.net> <001601c9e58b$f7ccf8b0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> <69C20748BF7547549E6CBA60B959E74D@Home> Message-ID: <004801c9fb8b$ab8780e0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> hi. i see the piece where you use a puller to take off the front hub. i'm looking for instruction on how to put it back on. i did the rears; no biggie. but now i'm facing the fronts and i'm just wondering . . . he who comes forth with a fifth on the fourth will not come forth on the fifth . . . From kingseim at earthlink.net Fri Jul 3 08:51:54 2009 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 07:51:54 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] front brakes In-Reply-To: <004801c9fb8b$ab8780e0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> References: <20090418000423.rpwas5sf4rj4ckg8@webmail.athenet.net><49EA89EE.2040306@comcast.net><49EB3E3B.7070900@comcast.net> <001601c9e58b$f7ccf8b0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> <69C20748BF7547549E6CBA60B959E74D@Home> <004801c9fb8b$ab8780e0$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <728184E7-A2DB-42D0-8174-E2003093E90F@earthlink.net> Whether brake drums, or wire wheel hubs, just push them back on. Front axle is tapered, so should go on most of the way. You can finish up installation by driving on the remainder of the way with the axle nut. Left (off) side of car has left hand threaded axle nut. Right (near) side of car has right hand threaded axle nut. John Seim Irvine, CA USA On Jul 2, 2009, at 8:09 PM, oliver wrote: > hi. i see the piece where you use a puller to take off the front > hub. i'm looking for instruction on how to put it back on. i did > the rears; no biggie. but now i'm facing the fronts and i'm just > wondering . . . > > > he who comes forth with a fifth on the fourth will not come forth > on the fifth . . . _______________________________________________ From sumton at sbcglobal.net Fri Jul 3 12:47:15 2009 From: sumton at sbcglobal.net (oliver) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:47:15 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] steering column References: <20090605.154407.3432.11.MGBOB@juno.com><000201c9e621$1e5e3710$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local><4A2995C2.7090701@flightsim.com> <000601c9e65d$751c3660$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> Message-ID: <000d01c9fc0e$b0579000$0d15a8c0@ranteer.local> hi, all. happy fourth! i'm trying to get the steering column loose, so i can drop it in the cabin. i've undone the bolts inside the cabin, but from what i understand i also need to undo some bolts at the firewall? is this correct? is this where: http://www.ranteer.com/misc/ thanks! From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 09:56:47 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 11:56:47 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] questions Message-ID: <1B420D0474C14F2CAFD7CF191ACED58A@Edscomputer> List, 1. What is the correct torque for the 8mm and 10mm rocker pedestal bolts on the XPAG engine? Do you have a source of these values other than "The XPAG Engine"? 2. Are the TD MkII and TF1250 cylinder heads the same as the TF1500? If not, what are the differences and are they interchangeable? 3. Are there external markings on the above heads making them identifiable w/o removal? Thanks, Ed Woods From ddubois at sinclair.net Wed Jul 8 10:37:50 2009 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2009 09:37:50 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] questions In-Reply-To: <1B420D0474C14F2CAFD7CF191ACED58A@Edscomputer> References: <1B420D0474C14F2CAFD7CF191ACED58A@Edscomputer> Message-ID: <4A54CB5E.7020100@sinclair.net> Ed, For information on torque for various fasteners in the XPAG/XPEG engines see the list, Torque Values for TD and TF Fasteners in the Other Tech Articles on my web site at: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ Cheers, Dave From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca Wed Jul 8 12:01:28 2009 From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 14:01:28 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] questions In-Reply-To: <4A54CB5E.7020100@sinclair.net> Message-ID: Dave and Ed, Dave, in general I agree with your torque table values, EXCEPT for the rocker stand bolts. I like to use 25 ft-lbs ( you show 19 ft-lbs ) for the 8 mm bolts and 35 ft-lbs ( you show 43 ft-lbs ) for the 10 mm bolts. I have broken 10 mm bolts trying to use 43 ft-lbs . I know Woody Woods in the XPAG Engine book shows 29 ft-lbs for 8 mm and 43 ft-lbs for 10 mm but I feel these numbers are too high. Bob Grunau Canada -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Dave and Liz DuBois Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:38 PM To: Ed Woods Cc: MG-T Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions Ed, For information on torque for various fasteners in the XPAG/XPEG engines see the list, Torque Values for TD and TF Fasteners in the Other Tech Articles on my web site at: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ Cheers, Dave Mg-t at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From fogbro1 at comcast.net Wed Jul 8 14:28:32 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 16:28:32 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] questions References: Message-ID: Bob, Dave and all, Thanks for the info. I am very uncomfortable with the Wood "XPAG Engine" values. Took the 10mm to 35 lbs and the 8mm to 25. While I'm asking questions, does anyone know a source for 6 point BSF/Whitworth sockets and combo wrenches? All my stuff is 12 point. Thanks again, Ed Woods P.S. I'm still using the original type oil filter and was able to get one at Advance Auto. Had to order it, but it took only a day. EW ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Grunau" To: "Dave and Liz DuBois" ; "Ed Woods" Cc: "MG-T" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:01 PM Subject: RE: [Mg-t] questions > Dave and Ed, > Dave, in general I agree with your torque table values, EXCEPT for the > rocker stand bolts. I like to use 25 ft-lbs ( you show 19 ft-lbs ) for > the > 8 mm bolts and 35 ft-lbs ( you show 43 ft-lbs ) for the 10 mm bolts. I > have > broken 10 mm bolts trying to use 43 ft-lbs . I know Woody Woods in the > XPAG > Engine book shows 29 ft-lbs for 8 mm and 43 ft-lbs for 10 mm but I feel > these numbers are too high. > Bob Grunau > Canada > > -----Original Message----- > From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net]On > Behalf Of Dave and Liz DuBois > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:38 PM > To: Ed Woods > Cc: MG-T > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions > > > Ed, > > For information on torque for various fasteners in the XPAG/XPEG engines > see the list, Torque Values for TD and TF Fasteners in the Other Tech > Articles on my web site at: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ > > Cheers, > Dave > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From jquilter at peoplepc.com Wed Jul 8 16:01:51 2009 From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John Quilter) Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 15:01:51 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] questions References: Message-ID: <009901ca0017$b34d0ee0$2101a8c0@peoplepc> Try this website for various British tools and hardware. I believe they have what you're looking for. http://www.britishfasteners.com/mm5/merchant.mvc John Quilter Brisbane, California ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Woods" To: "Bob Grunau" ; "Dave and Liz DuBois" Cc: "MG-T" Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 1:28 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions > Bob, Dave and all, > > Thanks for the info. I am very uncomfortable with the Wood "XPAG Engine" > values. Took the 10mm to 35 lbs and the 8mm to 25. > > While I'm asking questions, does anyone know a source for 6 point > BSF/Whitworth sockets and combo wrenches? All my stuff is 12 point. > > Thanks again, > > Ed Woods > > P.S. I'm still using the original type oil filter and was able to get one at > Advance Auto. Had to order it, but it took only a day. > > EW > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Grunau" > To: "Dave and Liz DuBois" ; "Ed Woods" > > Cc: "MG-T" > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 2:01 PM > Subject: RE: [Mg-t] questions > > > > Dave and Ed, > > Dave, in general I agree with your torque table values, EXCEPT for the > > rocker stand bolts. I like to use 25 ft-lbs ( you show 19 ft-lbs ) for > > the > > 8 mm bolts and 35 ft-lbs ( you show 43 ft-lbs ) for the 10 mm bolts. I > > have > > broken 10 mm bolts trying to use 43 ft-lbs . I know Woody Woods in the > > XPAG > > Engine book shows 29 ft-lbs for 8 mm and 43 ft-lbs for 10 mm but I feel > > these numbers are too high. > > Bob Grunau > > Canada > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net]On > > Behalf Of Dave and Liz DuBois > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 12:38 PM > > To: Ed Woods > > Cc: MG-T > > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions > > > > > > Ed, > > > > For information on torque for various fasteners in the XPAG/XPEG engines > > see the list, Torque Values for TD and TF Fasteners in the Other Tech > > Articles on my web site at: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ > > > > Cheers, > > Dave > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From fogbro1 at comcast.net Thu Jul 9 08:16:14 2009 From: fogbro1 at comcast.net (Ed Woods) Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2009 10:16:14 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Rocker pedestal bolts References: Message-ID: <83972ECF64DE4C96BAF3EE059BF3DFCB@Edscomputer> List, For what it's worth, I found the following torque specs for US 5/16" (approx. 8mm) and 3/8" (approx. 10mm) bolts: Grade 5: 14 lb-ft and 26 lb-ft Grade 8: 26 lb-ft and 37 lb-ft It would seem reasonable to me that the values for the MG rocker pedestal bolts would lie between these values. Certainly (?) they wouldn't exceed grade 8, would they? Ed Woods From jvk52td at aol.com Fri Jul 10 10:40:24 2009 From: jvk52td at aol.com (jvk52td at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:40:24 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] AOL and Team.Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBCF9441BFBE42-5EC-A0B@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com> I just received my first mail in a while today via the?list and it was in my AOL spam !!!? I will make sure team.net is in my address book. John -----Original Message----- From: FHSLOTH13 at aol.com To: Lfm614 at aol.com; TRBILBO at aol.com; CarlSereda at aol.com; mark at bradakis.com; DavidK1069 at aol.com Cc: aol-list at bradakis.com Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 9:25 am Subject: Re: AOL and Team.Net I have the same problem, no mail for about two months and did not change anything. ? Fred Baum From jvk52td at aol.com Fri Jul 10 11:23:18 2009 From: jvk52td at aol.com (jvk52td at aol.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:23:18 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] AOL and Team.Net In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8CBCF9A3FE320B8-5EC-CDB@mblk-d46.sysops.aol.com> Mark,? I received your e-mail through AOL via AOL although did not receive the Cc through team.net ?? Not quite right yet ??? John -----Original Message----- From: EDENMA at aol.com To: JVK52TD at aol.com; FHSLOTH13 at aol.com; Lfm614 at aol.com; TRBILBO at aol.com; CarlSereda at aol.com; mark at bradakis.com; DavidK1069 at aol.com Cc: aol-list at bradakis.com; mg-t at autox.team.net Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 12:06 pm Subject: Re: AOL and Team.Net My team.net messages seem to be coming through this morning as well !!!!! ? Thanks Mark! ? Cheers! ? Mark Looking for love this summer? Find it now on AOL Personals. From kingseim at earthlink.net Sun Jul 12 06:57:43 2009 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 05:57:43 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] [mg-tabc] Re: questions In-Reply-To: <200907111831.n6BIV2r5024492@mail.bcpl.net> References: <2E27CD30-1EAD-4919-9B3F-6EB5D40C0613@bcpl.net> <200907111831.n6BIV2r5024492@mail.bcpl.net> Message-ID: <93AD3506-C153-4A2D-A35C-19A36846026C@earthlink.net> You can also purchase an oil filter for you late TD and TF from your NAPA auto parts store. It is a WIX oil filter. Part number 1300, cross-references to a FRAM CH 814 PL, and the Purolator L20021. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Ed Woods wrote: > Chip, > > The Purolator number is L20021. Actually made in the USA! > > The Advance Auto label on the box indicates an "SKU# 18990000". > Perhaps that > is the Advance i.d. number. > > Ed > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chip Old" > To: "Ed Woods" > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:46 PM > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions > > >> On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:28 PM, "Ed Woods" wrote: >> >>> P.S. I'm still using the original type oil filter and was able >>> to get >>> one at Advance Auto. Had to order it, but it took only a day. >> >> What is the Advance Auto part number? >> >> -- Chip Old >> Via iPhone 3.0 Mail > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mg-tabc/ > > <*> Your email settings: > Individual Email | Traditional > > <*> To change settings online go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mg-tabc/join > (Yahoo! 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The car had not been on the road for 28 years. There was a second o-ring in there as well. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jul 14, 2009, at 5:44 AM, dave.osborn at hallmarkgenfind.com wrote: > > Can anyone verify that a crossreference might also include a RYCO > R2058V from Austrailia? I have 3 of them and always wondered if > they were correct for late TD. > > Dave Osborn > Wakefield, Rhode Island > '51 TD > '53 TD > '80 MGB > > > > John Seim > Sent by: mg-t-bounces at autox.team.net > 07/12/2009 08:57 AM > > To > Ed Woods , MG > cc > Subject > Re: [Mg-t] [mg-tabc] Re: questions > > > > > > You can also purchase an oil filter for you late TD and TF from your > NAPA auto parts store. It is a WIX oil filter. Part number 1300, > cross-references to a FRAM CH 814 PL, and the Purolator L20021. > > John Seim > Irvine, CA > > On Jul 9, 2009, at 6:47 AM, Ed Woods wrote: > > > Chip, > > > > The Purolator number is L20021. Actually made in the USA! > > > > The Advance Auto label on the box indicates an "SKU# 18990000". > > Perhaps that > > is the Advance i.d. number. > > > > Ed > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chip Old" > > To: "Ed Woods" > > Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 6:46 PM > > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] questions > > > > > >> On Jul 8, 2009, at 4:28 PM, "Ed Woods" wrote: > >> > >>> P.S. I'm still using the original type oil filter and was able > >>> to get > >>> one at Advance Auto. Had to order it, but it took only a day. > >> > >> What is the Advance Auto part number? > >> > >> -- Chip Old > >> Via iPhone 3.0 Mail > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mg-tabc/ > > > > <*> Your email settings: > > Individual Email | Traditional > > > > <*> To change settings online go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/mg-tabc/join > > (Yahoo! ID required) > > > > <*> To change settings via email: > > mailto:mg-tabc-digest at yahoogroups.com > > mailto:mg-tabc-fullfeatured at yahoogroups.com > > > > <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > mg-tabc-unsubscribe at yahoogroups.com > > > > <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Jul 20 09:56:09 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:56:09 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] sump oil pick-up Message-ID: Good morning listers-- The TF engine diagram in the factory service manual shows the fan-shaped extension on the bottom of the oil pick-up in the sump as ending several inches short of the forward end of the sump. We recently bought at a flea market an oil pick-up with that extension. Aside from the extension (and the fact that it's center-, not side-, located), it's identical to the one in my TD-----but when placed in a TD/TF sump, it comes to within <1/2" of the front of the sump. The bottom of the fan-shaped extension is marked: 168706 [triangle] DF Can anyone tell us whether this is indeed TF (and thus the drawing is inaccurate)? If not, any ideas what it's from? Many thanks! Sarah Carr TD3942EXLU in PA From mgbob at juno.com Mon Jul 20 10:22:48 2009 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:22:48 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] sump oil pick-up Message-ID: <20090720.122249.3376.5.MGBOB@juno.com> Sarah, Is your TD sump one of the 'early" sumps, shaped like the one on p.13 of the workshop manual? TD "late" sumps were shaped like the one illustrated on p. A.34, where there is space for the forward-facing extension. In the service parts list, it appears that the TD sump was changed at engine #14948. As engine #s are usually just a couple of hundred #s higher than car #s, your TD3 924EXLU would have had an engine with the early sump. The late sumps are rectangular in profile viewed from the side, while early sumps are shallow in front third and deeper in the back. In the service parts book, # 168706 is "filter extension" that begins with engine #15372. Bob On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:56:09 -0400 "Carr&Edwards" writes: > Good morning listers-- > > The TF engine diagram in the factory service manual shows the > fan-shaped extension on the bottom of the oil pick-up in the sump as ending > several inches short of the forward end of the sump. We recently bought at > a flea market an oil pick-up with that extension. Aside from the extension > (and the fact that it's center-, not side-, located), it's identical to the > one in my TD-----but when placed in a TD/TF sump, it comes to within <1/2" of > the front of the sump. The bottom of the fan-shaped extension is marked: > > 168706 > [triangle] > DF > > Can anyone tell us whether this is indeed TF (and thus the drawing > is inaccurate)? If not, any ideas what it's from? > > Many thanks! > Sarah Carr > TD3942EXLU in PA > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > > ____________________________________________________________ Make sure the temperature's always just right with a new thermostat. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTK2t6jKnrbTloqVpbSv0CXnB5eip7QCr7nWUAXNTnnz3Z0Sfy5vBO/ From scvc70 at epix.net Mon Jul 20 10:52:22 2009 From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:52:22 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] sump oil pick-up References: <20090720.122249.3376.5.MGBOB@juno.com> Message-ID: <18F1BCC94C9A495A95338367BAC16243@S0026273562> AHA!!! Now why didn't we notice that difference in the drawing??? (Focused on details, not the whole picture....) Thanks! Sarah ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howard" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] sump oil pick-up > Sarah, > Is your TD sump one of the 'early" sumps, shaped like the one on p.13 > of the workshop manual? > TD "late" sumps were shaped like the one illustrated on p. A.34, where > there is space for the forward-facing extension. > In the service parts list, it appears that the TD sump was changed at > engine #14948. As engine #s are usually just a couple of hundred #s > higher than car #s, your TD3 924EXLU would have had an engine with the > early sump. The late sumps are rectangular in profile viewed from the > side, while early sumps are shallow in front third and deeper in the > back. > In the service parts book, # 168706 is "filter extension" that begins > with engine #15372. > Bob > > > On Mon, 20 Jul 2009 11:56:09 -0400 "Carr&Edwards" > writes: >> Good morning listers-- >> >> The TF engine diagram in the factory service manual shows the >> fan-shaped extension on the bottom of the oil pick-up in the sump as > ending >> several inches short of the forward end of the sump. We recently > bought at >> a flea market an oil pick-up with that extension. Aside from the > extension >> (and the fact that it's center-, not side-, located), it's identical to > the >> one in my TD-----but when placed in a TD/TF sump, it comes to within > <1/2" of >> the front of the sump. The bottom of the fan-shaped extension is > marked: >> >> 168706 >> [triangle] >> DF >> >> Can anyone tell us whether this is indeed TF (and thus the drawing >> is inaccurate)? If not, any ideas what it's from? >> >> Many thanks! >> Sarah Carr >> TD3942EXLU in PA >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Mg-t at autox.team.net >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t >> >> Archives at http://www.team.net/archive >> >> > > ____________________________________________________________ > Make sure the temperature's always just right with a new thermostat. Click > now! > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTK2t95jEnuoYcrbryUMwbG710UkygHuN4UWasLDqljjpAT1XCIBqQ/ From taterry at aol.com Wed Jul 22 22:14:21 2009 From: taterry at aol.com (taterry at aol.com) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 00:14:21 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Testing Message-ID: <8CBD96330D32DB9-EA10-617D0@webmail-stg-m01.sysops.aol.com> to see if AOL is working From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net Thu Jul 23 09:55:43 2009 From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Mg-t] WOODSTOCK (NY) BRITISH CAR MEET SEPTEMBER 26th, 2009 Message-ID: <31437986.1248364544071.JavaMail.root@elwamui-rubis.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Second Annual WOODSTOCK BRITISH CAR MEET (British motorcycles & pre-1980 European cars invited too) SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 26th - 10:00AM to 4:PM (Rain Date: Sunday, September 27) AT THE WOODSTOCK PLAYHOUSE Intersection of Route 212 and Route 375, Woodstock, NY Join more than 100 British car owners for a smashing display of classic, quirky, and lovable British classics, right in the heart of Woodstock New York and the Catskill Mountains. Don't have a show car? Don't worry! Projects-in-progress, daily drivers, and vintage racers are just as welcome as Concours quality show cars. If it's British, bring it! The heart of the picturesque and historic hamlet of Woodstock is just a few minutes walk from the Playhouse, offering shops, restaurants, live music, & much more. Cars will enter the field starting at 10:AM, and the fun goes on all day. Around 2 pm, we'll present awards, including People's Choice and the Longest Distance Traveled. Spectators are welcome - FREE parking is available. The registration fee for British cars is $15 per car at the gate; there is no pre-registration. All of the proceeds from this event benefit the non-profit Woodstock Playhouse. non-profit Food and Refreshments will be available DIRECTIONS >From NYS Thruway / I-87: Take Exit 19 (Kingston) and head west on Route 28 for 5.8 miles (Speed Trap - stay under 50 mph) then turn right onto Route 375 North, which will end 2.9 miles later at Route 212 and the Playhouse. >From Saugerties (Exit 20) Take Route 212 West into the hamlet of Woodstock. The intersection of Route 375 will be on your left; the Playhouse entrance is on your right. From points west: Take Route 28 East to Route 375 North. Travel 2.9 miles, and the road will end at Route 212 and the Playhouse. 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