From TATERRY at aol.com  Tue Mar  4 17:53:33 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 19:53:33 EST
Subject: [Mg-t] Lift the Dot studs
Message-ID: <d38.22134bc8.34ff490d@aol.com>

Folks, its a long story but I'll just say I screwed up and bought a box of 
100 of these....I only needed 10, oh well. So, I'll offer these to any one in 
need at $5.00 for 10 post paid.  These are the single stud type, nickel plated 
with a 3/8" self tapping type screw... Moss sells these for $2/ each (226-408). 
 PayPal, check or cash.......

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From TATERRY at aol.com  Tue Mar  4 19:24:16 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:24:16 EST
Subject: [Mg-t] Lift the Dot studs
Message-ID: <cf7.2b331b6c.34ff5e50@aol.com>

Sorry folks, they are all gone.....that was fast, maybe I should go into the 
Lift the Dot business..........
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From KRISLYNCO.LLC at roadrunner.com  Tue Mar  4 19:31:44 2008
From: KRISLYNCO.LLC at roadrunner.com (KRISLYN COMPANY)
Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 21:31:44 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] td carpets
Message-ID: <000801c87e69$0e5a6490$6501a8c0@CompaqXPHome>

hello folks

can anyone tell me the proper location of the snaps that go through the carpet
and snap over the thingy s on the floor boards? First road trip today in the
forever restoration of my charming Mark II  .............except for these
little carpet do hickeys she's all done....... not one leak amazingly
and........    the skyhook five speed is an absolute dream.

Thanks for the help as always
Rocky

From drmoyce at ent-oakland.com  Fri Mar  7 19:35:19 2008
From: drmoyce at ent-oakland.com (Andrew Moyce)
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2008 18:35:19 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB
Message-ID: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB10CA555@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>

A sad story whose details I'll spare.  I have a friend in deteriorating
health whose wife was driving his 77 MGB in the rain and spun out
against a curb.  The car suffered right front fender damage, but the
wheel is jammed against the back of the fender well.  My diagnosis is a
twisted frame, so it's probably a parts car now.
Anyone interested?  It was a daily driver in mildly neglected shape, and
is now in Berkeley, CA.

Andy Moyce
52 TD

From mmouth2 at cox.net  Sat Mar  8 08:42:18 2008
From: mmouth2 at cox.net (mark saperstein)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 08:42:18 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw:  A wrecked MGB
Message-ID: <002e01c88133$01df8480$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "F3mickey" <F3mickey at hotmail.com>
To: "Andrew Moyce"
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB


> hi andy,
>
> I believe the MGB is monocoque.( no frame to bend...but you could twist
the
> whole body... not too likely if she only kissed the curb ).. could  be a
> bent A arm  but more likely messed up the steering rack and tie rods,  not
a
> big deal to fix. has a mechanic looked at it ?
>
>  I am here in phoenix with a 1967 MGBGT special edition  ( that originated
> in Berkely ) currently having a new throw out bearing put in for what I
> mistakenly diagnosed as a shot 1st gear.
>
> moral: you cant't be sure of the diagnosis until the autopsy.
>
> best, mickey
>  67 mgbgt
>  53 mgtd mk II
>  32 F3 Magna OTS
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Andrew Moyce" <drmoyce at ent-oakland.com>
> To: <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>;
> <mg-tabc at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:35 PM
> Subject: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB
>
>
> > A sad story whose details I'll spare.  I have a friend in deteriorating
> > health whose wife was driving his 77 MGB in the rain and spun out
> > against a curb.  The car suffered right front fender damage, but the
> > wheel is jammed against the back of the fender well.  My diagnosis is a
> > twisted frame, so it's probably a parts car now.
> > Anyone interested?  It was a daily driver in mildly neglected shape, and
> > is now in Berkeley, CA.
> >
> > Andy Moyce
> > 52 TD
> > _______________________________________________

From drmoyce at ent-oakland.com  Sat Mar  8 10:23:22 2008
From: drmoyce at ent-oakland.com (Andrew Moyce)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 09:23:22 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB
References: <002e01c88133$01df8480$6401a8c0@ph.cox.net>
Message-ID: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB1038420@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>

I'd love to be talked out of this, but here is the evidence I found.

Front bumper sheared off both frame attachments
Large front nut holding wishbone swivel on the right is flattened and scuffed
Remarkably intact front end, including sway bar, a-arms, steering arms,
kingpins, etc., with no evidence of twisting or displacement.
Right front wheel jammed against rear of fender and fender resting on top of
front shock.
A gap at the bottom of the radiator between the rubber air dam and back of the
radiator, about an inch an a half wide on the right, no gap on left. (air dam
is bolted in place)
The right front engine mount is sheared off . . . still in contact, but the
front edge of the frame (rubber) side of the mount just meets the back edge of
the motor side.
The front of the rt front fender is buckled but the gap in front of the door
is maintained and the door works fine.

It looks to me that the wishbone swivel and its attachment to the cross member
took full impact, which must have buckled the body.  The car isn't on a lift,
but crawling under it I suspect the buckle is just lateral to the starter
where the "frame" runs upward at a 60 degree angle just in front of the
firewall.

Andy


-----Original Message-----
From: mark saperstein [mailto:mmouth2 at cox.net]
Sent: Sat 3/8/2008 7:42 AM
To: Andrew Moyce; "'MG-MMM'"; mg-t at autox.team.net; mg-tabc at yahoogroups.com
Subject: Fw: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB


----- Original Message -----
From: "F3mickey" <F3mickey at hotmail.com>
To: "Andrew Moyce"
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 9:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB


> hi andy,
>
> I believe the MGB is monocoque.( no frame to bend...but you could twist
the
> whole body... not too likely if she only kissed the curb ).. could  be a
> bent A arm  but more likely messed up the steering rack and tie rods,  not
a
> big deal to fix. has a mechanic looked at it ?
>
>  I am here in phoenix with a 1967 MGBGT special edition  ( that originated
> in Berkely ) currently having a new throw out bearing put in for what I
> mistakenly diagnosed as a shot 1st gear.
>
> moral: you cant't be sure of the diagnosis until the autopsy.
>
> best, mickey
>  67 mgbgt
>  53 mgtd mk II
>  32 F3 Magna OTS
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andrew Moyce" <drmoyce at ent-oakland.com>
> To: <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>;
> <mg-tabc at yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 7:35 PM
> Subject: [Mg-t] A wrecked MGB
>
>
> > A sad story whose details I'll spare.  I have a friend in deteriorating
> > health whose wife was driving his 77 MGB in the rain and spun out
> > against a curb.  The car suffered right front fender damage, but the
> > wheel is jammed against the back of the fender well.  My diagnosis is a
> > twisted frame, so it's probably a parts car now.
> > Anyone interested?  It was a daily driver in mildly neglected shape, and
> > is now in Berkeley, CA.
> >
> > Andy Moyce
> > 52 TD
> > _______________________________________________

From bob_arlotto at yahoo.com  Sat Mar  8 13:42:02 2008
From: bob_arlotto at yahoo.com (Bob Arlotto)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 12:42:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system
Message-ID: <321429.55170.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm new to the List and MG's.

I recently acquired a TD MKII which for the most part
seems to be as originally supplied.  The PO had
replaced the exhaust equipment some time ago, and it 
appears to be almost worn out again.  Apparently the
only offering MOSS has is a stainless model, and I'm
wondering if this is the best opportunity or are there
other systems available that are more economical?
Thanks.  


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From budkrueger at comcast.net  Sat Mar  8 14:48:15 2008
From: budkrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger)
Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system
In-Reply-To: <321429.55170.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <321429.55170.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47D3099F.3080908@comcast.net>

Bob,

I put a stainless steel system (from Abingdon Spares) onto my TD in 
1995.  It's still going strong and sounds great.

Bud Krueger
(www.ttalk.info)


Bob Arlotto wrote:

>I'm new to the List and MG's.
>
>I recently acquired a TD MKII which for the most part
>seems to be as originally supplied.  The PO had
>replaced the exhaust equipment some time ago, and it 
>appears to be almost worn out again.  Apparently the
>only offering MOSS has is a stainless model, and I'm
>wondering if this is the best opportunity or are there
>other systems available that are more economical?
>Thanks.  
>
>
>      ____________________________________________________________________________________
>Never miss a thing.  Make Yahoo your home page. 
>http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
>_______________________________________________

From peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net  Sat Mar  8 18:41:35 2008
From: peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net (peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 20:41:35 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system
References: <321429.55170.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <002c01c88186$b5ec1d50$230110ac@OURS>

Hi Bob,
    I have a Moss stainless system on my 53 TD, and I like it a lot. The 
sound is good, and it is completely trouble-free.
Pete Thiel
CT

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:42 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system


> I'm new to the List and MG's.
>
> I recently acquired a TD MKII which for the most part
> seems to be as originally supplied.  The PO had
> replaced the exhaust equipment some time ago, and it
> appears to be almost worn out again.  Apparently the
> only offering MOSS has is a stainless model, and I'm
> wondering if this is the best opportunity or are there
> other systems available that are more economical?
> Thanks.
>
>
> 
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From jquilter at peoplepc.com  Sun Mar  9 00:18:52 2008
From: jquilter at peoplepc.com (John Quilter)
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2008 23:18:52 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system
References: <321429.55170.qm@web32107.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<002c01c88186$b5ec1d50$230110ac@OURS>
Message-ID: <004e01c881b5$d51a6680$2101a8c0@hppav>

I've had a non stainless steel system which I got from Moss in 1977 on my TD
and it has been working fine since, no rust, no fatigue cracks, or leaks.

John Quilter
Brisbane, California

----- Original Message -----
From: <peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>; <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 5:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] exhaust system


> Hi Bob,
>     I have a Moss stainless system on my 53 TD, and I like it a lot. The
> sound is good, and it is completely trouble-free.
> Pete Thiel
> CT
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>
> To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:42 PM
> Subject: [Mg-t] exhaust system
>
>
> > I'm new to the List and MG's.
> >
> > I recently acquired a TD MKII which for the most part
> > seems to be as originally supplied.  The PO had
> > replaced the exhaust equipment some time ago, and it
> > appears to be almost worn out again.  Apparently the
> > only offering MOSS has is a stainless model, and I'm
> > wondering if this is the best opportunity or are there
> > other systems available that are more economical?
> > Thanks.

From JagMkV at aol.com  Mon Mar 10 12:39:37 2008
From: JagMkV at aol.com (JagMkV at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 15:39:37 EDT
Subject: [Mg-t] Exhaust system
Message-ID: <c77.22d471bf.3506e879@aol.com>

I'll add my vote.  My Moss SS exhaust went on in 1992 and it still  looks 
like new.  Plus, the sound is great.
Craig Carragan
Southbury, CT USA
MG TD '53
 
PS.  You said yours was a TD Mark II.  The mark II had dual fuel  pumps among 
other changes.  Be sure that yours is a real TD Mk II before  putting various 
engine parts in.  I'm sure that others in the group can be  more lucid than I 
about the differences.  The only real Mark II I've seen  in the east is the 
ex Briggs Cunningham car.
 
 






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From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Mon Mar 10 16:28:20 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:28:20 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw: mark II air cleaner
Message-ID: <001b01c88306$6d94a640$6701a8c0@ME>

----- Original Message -----
From: Krislyn Co.LLC
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:20 PM
Subject: mark II air cleaner


hello again...  o.k the 1/2 tonneau was an installation success...thanks to
all.....
its pesky old me with another MGTD Mark II nitty question.. am having trouble
fitting the shinny aluminum part of the intake manifold to the carb faces and
also noticed that the threaded stud in the bottom of the intake manifold
doesnt reach to the little "U" saddle where you would normally both it atop
the the cross memeber manifiold behind the carbs... john twist had indicated
to me that he did not think i had a set of Mark II carbs... but that they were
fine and indeed the car runs perfectly...  i saw recently  an e bay ad for an
MG TD air cleaner and it sadi fits all TD's except the mark II... so thus my
question.

Also both fuel pumps grounded with wire to frame beneath scuttle?? wire
routing?? wire color??  my harness although new doesn't have said wire..

Ground the fuel tank sending unit also???  from where to where??

Lastly.....   was the MGTD drivers handbook as original...creme color or blue
color..... i've seen both?

Thanks as always.
Rocky

From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Mon Mar 10 16:30:43 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:30:43 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] test
Message-ID: <002801c88306$c3242ef0$6701a8c0@ME>

test

o.k.   i think i've got the mail thing straightened out now...no more bounced
back messages.... i  hope.

From mgbob at juno.com  Tue Mar 11 11:56:09 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 14:56:09 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw: mark II air cleaner
Message-ID: <20080311.150718.1716.18.MGBOB@juno.com>

  The MkII's air cleaner manifold is a bit larger than that of the
standard manifold, to fit the 1.5 inch carbs. Bolt centers for the four
bolts are not the same as standard air manifold. 
  That stud underneath does not go directly to the saddle on the intake
manifold. Instead there is a fitting that has an offset to which the stud
in the air manifold attaches, then the fitting is bolted to intake
manifold.  This fitting is not illustrated in Moss catalogue, and I can't
find it in the TD service parts book for TD or MkII parts.  If you do not
have it, one should be easy enough to make. It provides the approx 1/2
inch offset needed. 
  On TD3 21934 the inner pump is earthed into the harness with what
appears to be black wire, then the outer pump is earthed to inner pump. 
I've seen pumps that are not earthed, but seems to me that the electric
path is uncertain if not earthed with a wire, as that would be done
through the fuel line and a filter in line would break the circuit. 
  Tank sending unit is not earthed with its own wire, but somewhere the
tank is earthed. A club member recently chased down an inoperative fuel
light to his tank not having the wire; a wire to chassis solved his
problem. Sorry, I didn't see what he did. 
  Original handbook for my car was blue. Car was built Nov 1952. 
Bob


 
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008 19:28:20 -0400 "Krislyn Co.LLC"
<krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com> writes:
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Krislyn Co.LLC
> To: mg-t at autox.team.net
> Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 7:20 PM
> Subject: mark II air cleaner
> 
> 
> hello again...  o.k the 1/2 tonneau was an installation 
> success...thanks to
> all.....
> its pesky old me with another MGTD Mark II nitty question.. am 
> having trouble
> fitting the shinny aluminum part of the intake manifold to the carb 
> faces and
> also noticed that the threaded stud in the bottom of the intake 
> manifold
> doesnt reach to the little "U" saddle where you would normally both 
> it atop
> the the cross memeber manifiold behind the carbs... john twist had 
> indicated
> to me that he did not think i had a set of Mark II carbs... but that 
> they were
> fine and indeed the car runs perfectly...  i saw recently  an e bay 
> ad for an
> MG TD air cleaner and it sadi fits all TD's except the mark II... so 
> thus my
> question.
> 
> Also both fuel pumps grounded with wire to frame beneath scuttle?? 
> wire
> routing?? wire color??  my harness although new doesn't have said 
> wire..
> 
> Ground the fuel tank sending unit also???  from where to where??
> 
> Lastly.....   was the MGTD drivers handbook as original...creme 
> color or blue
> color..... i've seen both?
> 
> Thanks as always.
> Rocky
> _______________________________________________
> 
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
> 
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From mgbob at juno.com  Tue Mar 11 12:51:51 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 15:51:51 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] off topic   --  Original Morgan book
Message-ID: <20080311.155151.1716.20.MGBOB@juno.com>

   The title  Original Morgan  4/4, Plus 4, Plus 8,  is on sale for
$3.95, remaindered from $24.95.  It's a great deal for those interested
in Morgans. At Edward Hamilton Booksellers.   Hamilton charges $3.50 per
order, regardless of the number of books ordered.  John Gunnel's Standard
Catalogue of Jaguar, and other titles too, are in the current listing. 
His Standard Guide to British Sportscars is $5.95.
  No financial interest, etc etc.
Bob

From eabb at loc.gov  Tue Mar 11 13:26:26 2008
From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo)
Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2008 16:26:26 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Upholestry shop recommendations
Message-ID: <47D6B2B202000074000367CC@ntgwgate.loc.gov>

I need to have the seats rebuilt and recovered on the '35 Singer 4 seater I'm
restoring.  Can anyone suggest reputable shops in the Greater Washington, D.C.
area?

Thanks,

Gene Abbondelo

From bob_arlotto at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 12 18:34:08 2008
From: bob_arlotto at yahoo.com (Bob Arlotto)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:34:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
Message-ID: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi, 

Thanks for the direction.  After checking several
shops locally, it seems the stainless system is the
most feasible option.  Apparently exhausts are
significantly more dear than when I last required a
replacement. 

Now, couple more questions.  Last summer was my first
experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for
adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
anything that looks appropriate.

Second, it seemed that most activities we went to were
east of where we live and we were always driving into
the sun on the way home.  Are the gray smoked, plexi
glass type visors Moss shows effective or is there
something better?

The car, 52 TD MKII is correct in relation to the
information in the book MG T series in detail. 

Thanks for the help in advance.  

Bob
   


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From anngene at bellsouth.net  Wed Mar 12 19:40:39 2008
From: anngene at bellsouth.net (Gene Gillam)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:40:39 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
In-Reply-To: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <47D89427.2090409@bellsouth.net>

Bob Arlotto wrote:
> Last summer was my first experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
> almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for 
> adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
> anything that looks appropriate.
>   

Bob,

If you want to keep your car looking original there is an LED kit 
available to replace the present lights in your D-lamps.  These make the 
lights actually bright enough to be seen during the day.  For see an 
example of the difference go to:  
http://www.mg-tabc.org/techn-up/brakelights.htm

The link shown to get the lights isn't any good anymore however Terry 
Sanders (taterry at pacbell.net) can supply the kit for either negative or 
positive grounded cars.  I would highly recommend installing 2 D-lamps 
if you don't have 2 already.

Second...you'll notice I have a couple of lights mounted on the sides of 
my gas tank.  This is not original but it brings the lights up where 
people can see them easier - and they can be easily wired for 
directional signals.  I bought these lights from a motorcycle website - 
they were less than $12 each and were heavily chromed.  I've  had them 
on the car for over 5 years and they look as good as new.   They're a 
Mid-USA part number 11410...I can find the web-site if you're interested.

Gene Gillam
Saucier, MS

From anngene at bellsouth.net  Wed Mar 12 21:06:32 2008
From: anngene at bellsouth.net (Gene Gillam)
Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 23:06:32 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
In-Reply-To: <47D89427.2090409@bellsouth.net>
References: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<47D89427.2090409@bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <47D8A848.6000201@bellsouth.net>

Bob,
Forget what I wrote...I had an 'old man' brain fart...forgot you guys 
didn't use the D-lamps...I was thinking TC's.
Sorry.
Gene



Gene Gillam wrote:
> Bob Arlotto wrote:
>> Last summer was my first experience driving my TD, during one tour we 
>> were
>> almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for adding 
>> directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
>> anything that looks appropriate.
>>   
>
> Bob,
>
> If you want to keep your car looking original there is an LED kit 
> available to replace the present lights in your D-lamps.  These make 
> the lights actually bright enough to be seen during the day.  For see 
> an example of the difference go to:  
> http://www.mg-tabc.org/techn-up/brakelights.htm
>
> The link shown to get the lights isn't any good anymore however Terry 
> Sanders (taterry at pacbell.net) can supply the kit for either negative 
> or positive grounded cars.  I would highly recommend installing 2 
> D-lamps if you don't have 2 already.
>
> Second...you'll notice I have a couple of lights mounted on the sides 
> of my gas tank.  This is not original but it brings the lights up 
> where people can see them easier - and they can be easily wired for 
> directional signals.  I bought these lights from a motorcycle website 
> - they were less than $12 each and were heavily chromed.  I've  had 
> them on the car for over 5 years and they look as good as new.   
> They're a Mid-USA part number 11410...I can find the web-site if 
> you're interested.
>
> Gene Gillam
> Saucier, MS

From peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net  Wed Mar 12 22:03:02 2008
From: peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net (peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:03:02 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
References: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <003c01c884c7$84585940$230110ac@OURS>

Bob,
    Moss offers a third brake light, attached with a magnet. I think Bob 
Howard can give you some specifics on that, as I haven't mounted one. Also 
you might check out T-Talk for some tech info on that. 
http://www.ttalk.info/
Pete Thiel

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....


> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the direction.  After checking several
> shops locally, it seems the stainless system is the
> most feasible option.  Apparently exhausts are
> significantly more dear than when I last required a
> replacement.
>
> Now, couple more questions.  Last summer was my first
> experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
> almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for
> adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
> anything that looks appropriate.
>
> Second, it seemed that most activities we went to were
> east of where we live and we were always driving into
> the sun on the way home.  Are the gray smoked, plexi
> glass type visors Moss shows effective or is there
> something better?
>
> The car, 52 TD MKII is correct in relation to the
> information in the book MG T series in detail.
>
> Thanks for the help in advance.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
> 
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From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Thu Mar 13 03:38:49 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 06:38:49 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mark II air cleaner
Message-ID: <003601c884f6$6c6c7e90$6501a8c0@ME>

hello
thank you for the update on the mark II air cleaner issue ...if anyone has a
picture of the bracket that holds the intake manifold to the intake
mainfold... i would appreciate it...

also if anyone knows the whereabouts of a mark II intake manifold and air
cleaner i have three regular TD ones that are concourse and i would trade or
otherwise..

thanks
rocky

From drmoyce at ent-oakland.com  Thu Mar 13 09:49:37 2008
From: drmoyce at ent-oakland.com (Andrew Moyce)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 09:49:37 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
Message-ID: <8995F275C1E3C749A710CEE5191D1AB10CA58E@AHSDC.ent-oakland.local>

A good tail light trick is to replace the license plate lamp with a
motorcycle tail light.  I think the brand I found was Chrome Craft, or
something like that.  Same size and shape as the original lamp but
incorporates a tail/brake lamp.  You have to run an additional wire from
the harness or the standard fender tail lamp.

Andy Moyce
52 TD

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces+drmoyce=ent-oakland.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:mg-t-bounces+drmoyce=ent-oakland.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 10:03 PM
To: Bob Arlotto; mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....

Bob,
    Moss offers a third brake light, attached with a magnet. I think Bob

Howard can give you some specifics on that, as I haven't mounted one.
Also
you might check out T-Talk for some tech info on that.
http://www.ttalk.info/
Pete Thiel

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:34 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....


> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the direction.  After checking several
> shops locally, it seems the stainless system is the
> most feasible option.  Apparently exhausts are
> significantly more dear than when I last required a
> replacement.
>
> Now, couple more questions.  Last summer was my first
> experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
> almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for
> adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
> anything that looks appropriate.
>
> Second, it seemed that most activities we went to were
> east of where we live and we were always driving into
> the sun on the way home.  Are the gray smoked, plexi
> glass type visors Moss shows effective or is there
> something better?
>
> The car, 52 TD MKII is correct in relation to the
> information in the book MG T series in detail.
>
> Thanks for the help in advance.
>
> Bob
>
>
>
>
>
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From budkrueger at comcast.net  Thu Mar 13 10:16:00 2008
From: budkrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 13:16:00 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
In-Reply-To: <003c01c884c7$84585940$230110ac@OURS>
References: <942815.90045.qm@web32105.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<003c01c884c7$84585940$230110ac@OURS>
Message-ID: <47D96150.2020205@comcast.net>

Here was my first approach: 
http://www.ttalk.info/Tech/HighMountLights.html.  That particular set of 
lights is no longer available, but similar sets are readily available 
through such as Harbor Freight, etc.

I then went the LED route: http://www.ttalk.info/led_high_mounts.htm.  
Again, they're no longer available from JCW, but it should give you an 
idea of how to install such lights.  Email me if I can help.

Bud Krueger
www.ttalk.info


peter-thiel at sbcglobal.net wrote:

>Bob,
>    Moss offers a third brake light, attached with a magnet. I think Bob 
>Howard can give you some specifics on that, as I haven't mounted one. Also 
>you might check out T-Talk for some tech info on that. 
>http://www.ttalk.info/
>Pete Thiel
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Bob Arlotto" <bob_arlotto at yahoo.com>
>To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2008 9:34 PM
>Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
>
>
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Thanks for the direction.  After checking several
>>shops locally, it seems the stainless system is the
>>most feasible option.  Apparently exhausts are
>>significantly more dear than when I last required a
>>replacement.
>>
>>Now, couple more questions.  Last summer was my first
>>experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
>>almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for
>>adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
>>anything that looks appropriate.
>>
>>Second, it seemed that most activities we went to were
>>east of where we live and we were always driving into
>>the sun on the way home.  Are the gray smoked, plexi
>>glass type visors Moss shows effective or is there
>>something better?
>>
>>The car, 52 TD MKII is correct in relation to the
>>information in the book MG T series in detail.
>>
>>Thanks for the help in advance.
>>
>>Bob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>____________________________________________________________________________________
>>Looking for last minute shopping deals?
>>Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. 
>>http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping
>>_______________________________________________

From mgbob at juno.com  Thu Mar 13 13:19:52 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 16:19:52 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mgt exhaust system and.....
Message-ID: <20080313.161952.3844.6.MGBOB@juno.com>

Hi Bob,
   I have not fitted directionals to my TD yet, though it is something
long overdue.  
   Shaken by close approaches at stopsigns, I did install a third brake
light.  It was quick & easy.  A WalMart type of side marker light used on
boat trailers is fitted in the spare wheel, between hub cap and the rim
of the wheel.  The light is fastened to a 1" wide, 1/8" thick, strip of
aluminium from the scrap pile, drilled to fit over the upper of the three
spare-wheel nuts. It fits between hubcap and wheel.  Double wire lead
from this disappears behind the wheel and tire, under the rear valence,
around to a brake lamp and to ground. I used Lucar connectors at the
wheel, thinking that I would disconnect and remove third light when at
car shows, though have never actually done that.  
   Bud Krueger's system looks a lot better to me than mine. The two
lights are a bit higher, and the turn signals are increasingly important.
Few seem to know what most hand signals are, the only one generally known
is considered rude. 
   I have those grey plexi visors, given to me by a friend who removed
them from his Austin Healey. They are about the ugliest thing ever seen
on a TD. For me, their benefit is to lift wind over my hat a bit better.
I have not found them to be useful as glare shades, but that may be
because my seat cushion is firm and I sit with eyes just below top of
windscreen, where the visors don't close the light gap.  They are useful
enough as deflectors that I leave them on the car, though I keep thinking
that making another sort of them to fit these good hinges would be worth
trying.  
Bob

On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 18:34:08 -0700 (PDT) Bob Arlotto
<bob_arlotto at yahoo.com> writes:
> Hi, 
> 
> Thanks for the direction.  After checking several
> shops locally, it seems the stainless system is the
> most feasible option.  Apparently exhausts are
> significantly more dear than when I last required a
> replacement. 
> 
> Now, couple more questions.  Last summer was my first
> experience driving my TD, during one tour we were
> almost rear ended turning on a rural road.  Ideas for
> adding directional-stop lights?  I haven't seen
> anything that looks appropriate.
> 
> Second, it seemed that most activities we went to were
> east of where we live and we were always driving into
> the sun on the way home.  Are the gray smoked, plexi
> glass type visors Moss shows effective or is there
> something better?
> 
> The car, 52 TD MKII is correct in relation to the
> information in the book MG T series in detail. 
> 
> Thanks for the help in advance.  
> 
> Bob

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Thu Mar 13 22:30:57 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 21:30:57 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Mg-t] SF Bay Area All-British Car Meet - Sept 6 & 7 Brisbane
 Marina!!!
Message-ID: <25356986.1205472657828.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hound.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

   Hi Gang,

   As  you  all  know  by  now, the Palo Alto park is no longer available
   for our  traditional   British  Car  Meet.   Just  signed  to  use the
   Brisbane,  CA  Marina for the 31st Annual Greater Bay Area British Car
   Meet on Sept. 6th and 7th, 2008 - Details to come.........

   I am also working on bringing back a fall meet in LA

   Best,

   Rick Feibusch

   Meet Coordinator

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Cheryl Berge
     Sent: Mar 11, 2008 1:15 PM
     To: morris_motors at yahoogroups.com
     Subject: [morris_motors] All-British Car Show

   The Chico Area British Car Club is hosting the 19th Annual All British
   Meet on the 20th of April 2008, in Chico, CA
   Chico is located 90 miles north of Sacramento, CA Preregistration is
   $20.00 before 10 Apr.
   Further info can be found at www.chicobritish.org or call Tony at
   (530)342-1821. Mailing address CABCC P.O. 6366 Chico, CA 95927-6366
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From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Tue Mar 18 17:42:04 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2008 20:42:04 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mg td bulbs
Message-ID: <001401c8895a$0da554a0$6501a8c0@ME>

hello folks

can anyone tell me the modern day number of the little screw in light bulb
that illuminates through the side of the tachometer.....and is it readily
available at say a NAPA auto store for example..

thank you as always
rocky

From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Wed Mar 19 06:04:28 2008
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:04:28 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] mg td bulbs
In-Reply-To: <001401c8895a$0da554a0$6501a8c0@ME>
References: <001401c8895a$0da554a0$6501a8c0@ME>
Message-ID: <47E10F5C.3010608@comcast.net>

Rocky,
I can't tell you the number, but take one along to Radio Shack.  They 
have more than the original 2.2 watt bulbs available, so you can go a 
bit brighter and then actually read your instruments at night.
Charlie

Krislyn Co.LLC wrote:

>hello folks
>
>can anyone tell me the modern day number of the little screw in light bulb
>that illuminates through the side of the tachometer.....and is it readily
>available at say a NAPA auto store for example..
>
>thank you as always
>rocky
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From LAF48 at aol.com  Sat Mar 29 12:34:59 2008
From: LAF48 at aol.com (LAF48 at aol.com)
Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:34:59 EDT
Subject: [Mg-t] MG T Roller camshaft kits
Message-ID: <d2e.1af19c2d.351ff3e3@aol.com>

Hello listers, Just a note for any one interested, My roller lifter camshaft 
kits are now in full production. E mail me for more info, price & photo's. Len 
Fanelli Abingdon Performance


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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun Mar 30 08:21:11 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 08:21:11 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Mg-t] Nice 1975 MGB For Sale On Craigslist
Message-ID: <18188695.1206890471343.JavaMail.root@elwamui-hybrid.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Readers,

In response to my announcement that the Palo Alto All British Car Meet has been moved to the Brisbane, CA, Sierra Point Marina for this year's meet (Sept. 6th & 7th, 2008), I got this email from participant Peter Kepler.

This is a very good deal for someone who wants to get into the hobby on a shoestring with a really clean car that is out of CA smog demands - Yes, It has the big ol' rubber baby buggy bumpers but that is good if you live in a city and they are now removable with the new chrome bumper kits (that can be installed by the folks at ON THE ROAD AGAIN in Morgan Hill, CA).  Check it out.....

Best,

Rick Feibusch 

-----Forwarded Message-----
From: Peter Kepler <PK at peterkepler.com>
Sent: Mar 29, 2008 11:05 PM
To: Richard Feibusch <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: The 2008 Palo Alto (CA) British Meet Sept 8 & 9

Richard,
My 1975 MGB Anniversary with lots of extras is really in very good  
condition, I must sell for family reasons,

I've listed it for under 4K, please pass it along to anyone you know  
might be appreciated, thank you very much. Enjoyed the Palo Alto show last year. Here is the link

https://post.craigslist.org/manage/623699248/yi2r6

Peter Kepler