From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com Sun Jun 1 11:04:14 2008 From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 13:04:14 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] tonneau cover question Message-ID: <000a01c8c409$85661a30$6501a8c0@ME> hello folks cleaning out the barn...found a (what appears to be as new) full tonneau cover black leather that has the bar type holders at the rear .....snaps (not lift the dot) at the two front corners but oddly has two "bump ups" for headrests..... also has two zippers running width wise bhind the head rest bump ups so as to leave the rear cover portion on while motoring... any thoughts on what it fits.... i am a t car guy and am sure it's not for a t series.. thanks rocky d From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com Sun Jun 1 18:48:50 2008 From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC) Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:48:50 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] tonneau Message-ID: <000c01c8c44a$6c5c6e40$6501a8c0@ME> thanks to all on the MGB tonneau.... this it is.... I forgot I once had an early 1974 MGB Chrome bumper beauty and this was her tonneau.... just as new.... amazing! thanks again rocky From LAF48 at aol.com Wed Jun 11 17:12:59 2008 From: LAF48 at aol.com (LAF48 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 19:12:59 EDT Subject: [Mg-t] TC-TF crankshaft Message-ID: Hello group, I have a customer who needs a T type crankshaft, any one know of a good one out there? T.I.A. Len ************** Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) From mgcharlie at comcast.net Mon Jun 16 06:36:33 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:36:33 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] TF parts for sale Message-ID: <48565E51.1060401@comcast.net> I got an email from a friend whoran into someone at a car show that had 1954 TF parts to sell somewhere near Columbia, PA. He mentioned a right side door and front fender and a transmission tunnel. Here is his contact info: Carl Kreider {ph} 717-626-7478 {email} cr57ford at dejazzd.com Please don't contact me. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From bobmgtd at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 07:37:35 2008 From: bobmgtd at comcast.net (Bob Donahue) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:35 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" Message-ID: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's on the TD dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical accessories. I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter socket" on the other end. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana From mgbob at juno.com Wed Jun 18 08:13:59 2008 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:13:59 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" Message-ID: <20080618.101359.3956.15.MGBOB@juno.com> Bob Yes, or more accurately, there once was at Moss and there may still be. Things plugged into the cig lighter may be polarity-sensitive, and though the lamp socket is color-coded, passengers may not be as careful as the owner when plugging in. Even in a TD with its splendid cockpit ventilation, the smell of incorrect polarity through a device is unmistakable. Some T-owners have installed a cig lighter down in the shadows at bottom forward end of the underdash panel. Hardwired into the car, the lighter can be neg earth with car pos earth. This works for accessories that don't have an antenna earthed to the car, so CB and radio antennae must be isolated from the car or magnetic base types used. Bob On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:35 -0400 "Bob Donahue" writes: > Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's > on the TD > dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical > accessories. > I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter > socket" on the > other end. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana ____________________________________________________________ Need cash? Click to get a cash advance. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3mKesvZ6qvhtidM0FfhXE4zexw6gFEzJCaYXDmzIv2sa9CGg/ From rthompson2666 at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 08:29:58 2008 From: rthompson2666 at comcast.net (Roger D. Thompson) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:29:58 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> References: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Message-ID: Bob, See http://www.abingdonsparesllc.com/catpg39detail.html Item 12a. Roger D. Thompson -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+rthompson2666=comcast.net at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+rthompson2666=comcast.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Donahue Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 8:38 AM To: MG_TABC; mg-t Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's on the TD dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical accessories. I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter socket" on the other end. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana From nels at flightsim.com Wed Jun 18 08:49:40 2008 From: nels at flightsim.com (Nels Anderson) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:49:40 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> References: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Message-ID: <48592084.2040802@flightsim.com> I looked into this at one time. Apparently, this was a standard socket at one time (my Land Rover has the exact same one) and various accessories were available for it. I thought Moss Motors sold the plug, though maybe not any more. I used to see them come up on eBay every so often too. They usually seem to be quite expensive for what is just a simple plug. Radio Shack sells similar plugs and sockets, but unfortunately the ones I found were not quite the right size but it's possible a larger electronics dealer would have one that fits. --Nels Anderson 1953 MGTD Bob Donahue wrote: > Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's on the TD > dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical accessories. > I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter socket" on the > other end. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From mrkshrmn at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 08:59:26 2008 From: mrkshrmn at hotmail.com (Mark Sherman) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:59:26 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <48592084.2040802@flightsim.com> References: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> <48592084.2040802@flightsim.com> Message-ID: With a bit of patience and hand tools, the Radio Shack plugs (available in red and black) can be made to fit the Lucas socket. I made a "pigtail" that can plug into the dash, with a standard cigarette lighter socket at the end. Mark Sherman > Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:49:40 -0400> From: nels at flightsim.com> To: bobmgtd at comcast.net; Mg-t at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket"> > I looked into this at one time. Apparently, this was a standard socket > at one time (my Land Rover has the exact same one) and various > accessories were available for it. I thought Moss Motors sold the plug, > though maybe not any more. I used to see them come up on eBay every so > often too. They usually seem to be quite expensive for what is just a > simple plug. Radio Shack sells similar plugs and sockets, but > unfortunately the ones I found were not quite the right size but it's > possible a larger electronics dealer would have one that fits.> > --Nels Anderson> 1953 MGTD> > Bob Donahue wrote:> > Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's on the TD> > dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical accessories.> > I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter socket" on the> > other end.> >> > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s)> > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net> > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639> > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361> > Member: NEMGTR #11470> > NAMGBR # 7-3336> > Hoosier MGB Club> > Olde Octagons of Indiana> > _______________________________________________> >> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Mg-t at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> >> > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive> _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Mg-t at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From felperg at earthlink.net Wed Jun 18 09:18:55 2008 From: felperg at earthlink.net (Gerald Felper) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 08:18:55 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: References: <000601c8d148$785954f0$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> <48592084.2040802@flightsim.com> Message-ID: Moss has the plugs in stock. Jerry On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:59 AM, Mark Sherman wrote: > With a bit of patience and hand tools, the Radio Shack plugs > (available in red > and black) can be made to fit the Lucas socket. > > I made a "pigtail" that can plug into the dash, with a standard > cigarette > lighter socket at the end. > > Mark Sherman > > > >> Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:49:40 -0400> From: nels at flightsim.com> To: > bobmgtd at comcast.net; Mg-t at autox.team.net> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Plug for > "Inspection Lamp Socket"> > I looked into this at one time. > Apparently, this > was a standard socket > at one time (my Land Rover has the exact > same one) and > various > accessories were available for it. I thought Moss Motors > sold the > plug, > though maybe not any more. I used to see them come up on > eBay every so >> often too. They usually seem to be quite expensive for what is >> just a > > simple plug. Radio Shack sells similar plugs and sockets, but > > unfortunately > the ones I found were not quite the right size but it's > possible > a larger > electronics dealer would have one that fits.> > --Nels Anderson> > 1953 MGTD> > > Bob Donahue wrote:> > Is there a plug available to fit the > "Inspection Lamp > Socket" that's on the TD> > dashboard? This would be a handy way of > connecting > 12V electrical accessories.> > I'm thinking of making up an adaptor > with a > "cigarette lighter socket" on the> > other end.> >> > Bob Donahue > (Still Stuck > in the '50s)> > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net> > Cars: 52 MGTD - > #17639> > 71 > MGB - #GHN5UB254361> > Member: NEMGTR #11470> > NAMGBR # 7-3336> > > Hoosier MGB > Club> > Olde Octagons of Indiana> > > _______________________________________________> >> > Support Team.Net > http://www.team.net/donate.html> >> > Mg-t at autox.team.net> > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> >> > Archives at > http://www.team.net/archive> > _______________________________________________> >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Mg- >> t at autox.team.net> > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> > Archives at > http://www.team.net/archive > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive Gerald Felper Felper Engineering felperg at earthlink.net From bobmgtd at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 09:43:37 2008 From: bobmgtd at comcast.net (Bob Donahue) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:43:37 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" References: <20080618.101359.3956.15.MGBOB@juno.com> Message-ID: <001701c8d15a$1393e320$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> A diode in series with one of the leads can protect the device against reverse polarity. I plan to put one in my "adapter". Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howard" To: Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 10:13 AM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" > Bob > Yes, or more accurately, there once was at Moss and there may still be. > Things plugged into the cig lighter may be polarity-sensitive, and > though the lamp socket is color-coded, passengers may not be as careful > as the owner when plugging in. Even in a TD with its splendid cockpit > ventilation, the smell of incorrect polarity through a device is > unmistakable. > Some T-owners have installed a cig lighter down in the shadows at > bottom forward end of the underdash panel. Hardwired into the car, the > lighter can be neg earth with car pos earth. This works for accessories > that don't have an antenna earthed to the car, so CB and radio antennae > must be isolated from the car or magnetic base types used. > Bob > > > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:37:35 -0400 "Bob Donahue" > writes: >> Is there a plug available to fit the "Inspection Lamp Socket" that's >> on the TD >> dashboard? This would be a handy way of connecting 12V electrical >> accessories. >> I'm thinking of making up an adaptor with a "cigarette lighter >> socket" on the >> other end. >> >> Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) >> Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net >> Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 >> 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 >> Member: NEMGTR #11470 >> NAMGBR # 7-3336 >> Hoosier MGB Club >> Olde Octagons of Indiana From mgbob at juno.com Wed Jun 18 10:18:39 2008 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:18:39 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" Message-ID: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> Bob, Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's OK, and if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the plug? Bob On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:43:37 -0400 "Bob Donahue" writes: > A diode in series with one of the leads can protect the device > against > reverse polarity. I plan to put one in my "adapter". > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana ____________________________________________________________ Solve paternity questions with expert DNA testing. Click now! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/Ioyw6i3nOJ05axcoVO8xGv6PspFRWtSOn1GDHM4icefK1q3RtYTjqU/ From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 18 11:20:22 2008 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:20:22 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> Message-ID: <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> You need 1N5401 rectifier diode 3A 100V (radio shack or any local electronics parts store if you have one) It will go in like an inline fuse but with polarity. One end has a line on it and it will go to the negative side. So on positive ground car, the line side will go to the power negative (dash) side. (reverse it for negative ground) Put a 3 amp inline fuse with it. You might consider putting the fuse and the rectifier behind the dash. It is like a one way hydraulic valve. It won't work backwards so you just reverse the plug. On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Bob Howard wrote: > Bob, > Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's OK, > and > if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the plug? > Bob From mgcharlie at comcast.net Wed Jun 18 11:25:38 2008 From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:25:38 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Electric coolers Message-ID: <48594512.2040500@comcast.net> Bob, Another nice thing about the electric cooler is that when you get to a hotel, there is an adapter that you can use to plug it into the wall socket. I haven't gotten any complaints from hotels. Perhaps they like that better than everyone raiding the ice machines to fill their coolers. I think I got it at K mart several years ago. At the time it was a closeout special. I may need to look for another as it doesn't seem to cool as well as it did when new. If things aren't cold already, it can't seem to keep up. It fits quite nicely in the "luggage compartment". Exterior size is similar to a Coleman Oscar. I just run the lead under the seat back at the tunnel and along the tunnel to the dash. My cigarette lighter socket has lugs that take wood screws to screw it to the back side of the dash. Charlie PS I just did a search. Check out http://tinyurl.com/5kfp29 I know I didn't pay nearly that much though. It looks a lot like it, though maybe not exactly the same. PPS Here is the brand that I have: http://tinyurl.com/yum2fn A bit cheaper and cools better. Bob Howard wrote: Charlie, I agree about the neg earth, and changed my TD years ago. The problem with using the dash plug is accidentally putting it in "wrong" so that anything grounded to car chassis gets zapped if there is any grounding through its antenna. If one isolates the antenna or uses magnetic base, the CB is unaffected. I've read in several places that the spark plugs do fire better with pos earth, but everyone agrees that if it's better it is so little better as to almost be past measuring. As long as the coil is wired correctly, they get full sparking power and everything works fine. Originally our coils had CB and something else marked on them instead of + and -, possibly a tacit admission that the entire world was moving away from pos earth. If Hal Kramer installs a diode & transistor package in the clock ( reduces arcing on the points) he wants to know polarity. I like your idea of the electric cooler---have not seen one small enough to work in the TD's space. Now I will have to go looking for one. Bob [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type text/x-vcard which had a name of mgcharlie.vcf] From ddubois at sinclair.net Wed Jun 18 11:39:49 2008 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 10:39:49 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> Message-ID: <48594865.8060506@sinclair.net> > Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's OK, and if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the plug? That is exactly what a diode will do for you. Two things to consider - 1) the diode must be sized to accommodate the maximum current draw you expect to have and 2) even with a diode in the line, the circuit should be fused at a level that will protect the wiring from releasing all the smoke should the device that is being plugged in have an exposed ground that touches ground on the car since the device being plugged in will have a negative ground and the car (unless converted to negative ground) will be positive ground. The original plug that fits the sockets on the dash of the TD are not real long life items, since the prongs are just split brass prongs and they become loose in a very short time. A better approach is to get a auxiliary power outlet (looks like a cigarette lighter plug, but completely isolated from ground). The one that comes to mind is a Sea Bowld P/N 19-166-0042, available from boat supply stores such as Boater's World. Before installing such a set up, read through the discussion on it in the T series TD-TF BBS under the thread title "The saga of the steering wheel" (a two part thread), where the various safety concerns are discussed and a link is provided to Barney Gaylord's web site where the same subject is discussed. It is necessary to understand the safety ramifications of plugging any kind of device that is of different polarity than that of the car, even though it is easy enough to set up a plug that will accommodate it. It is necessary to insure that no metal portion of the device being used is connected to any portion of the internal circuit in the device. If there is contact to even the smallest screw on the device, the potential for an incinerated wiring harness is almost inevitable. The best approach, if you want to run some modern device off of the car's electrical system is to convert the car to negative ground or install a polarity converter as Barney Gaylord suggests in his article. Cheers, Dave From stanley_brohn at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 13:43:42 2008 From: stanley_brohn at hotmail.com (Stanley Brohn) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 14:43:42 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Hi all, > > You need 1N5401 rectifier diode 3A 100V (radio shack or any local > electronics parts store if you have one) It will go in like an > inline fuse but with polarity.> > One end has a line on it and it will go to the negative side. So on > positive ground car, the line side will go to the power negative > (dash) side. (reverse it for negative ground) > Good explanation > > Put a 3 amp inline fuse with it. You might consider putting the fuse > and the rectifier behind the dash.> I'm not sure that will give you what you want. The full voltage (-0.7 V from it) will still be at the terminals if you put the diode behing the dash. I think you would have to put the diode on what ever you plug into the dash. > Sometime to be sure they will have a diode across the input to the device so that if it is plugged or connected wrong it will blow the fuse. Stanley _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchca shback From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 18 14:32:56 2008 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 15:32:56 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <1FFFE478-CA48-478A-914E-ED6327C5A535@sbcglobal.net> Stanley, voltage has nothing to do with it..... a diode prevents reverse current flow.... try it with a meter...... or check this out.... http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_3/chpt_3/1.html 3 amps on a fridge might not be enough though, Radio Shack has a 6 amp rectifier (big diode) which should handle a small fridge. If Bob is using positive ground, like the others have said, be careful not to short anything out. A cheap cooler is likely to be mainly plastic. If your afraid of damaging the car wiring, skip the sockets and run 2 wires directly from the battery and fuse it. I wouldn't run a T series without adding a fuses so the entire system is protected. There are a couple of simple places to do it. Mike On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Stanley Brohn wrote: > Hi all, >>> You need 1N5401 rectifier diode 3A 100V (radio shack or any local > > electronics parts store if you have one) It will go in like an > > inline fuse > but with polarity.> > One end has a line on it and it will go to > the negative > side. So on > positive ground car, the line side will go to the > power negative >> (dash) side. (reverse it for negative ground) >> > > Good explanation >> >> Put a 3 amp inline fuse with it. You might consider putting the >> fuse > and > the rectifier behind the dash.> > > I'm not sure that will give you what you want. The full voltage > (-0.7 V from > it) will still be at the terminals if you put the diode behing the > dash. I > think you would have to put the diode on what ever you plug into > the dash. >> > Sometime to be sure they will have a diode across the input to the > device so > that if it is plugged or connected wrong it will blow the fuse. > > Stanley > _________________________________________________________________ > Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! > http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/ > crea=introsrchca > shback > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From stanley_brohn at hotmail.com Wed Jun 18 15:57:37 2008 From: stanley_brohn at hotmail.com (Stanley Brohn) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 16:57:37 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <1FFFE478-CA48-478A-914E-ED6327C5A535@sbcglobal.net> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> <1FFFE478-CA48-478A-914E-ED6327C5A535@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Mike, I not sure if I explained what I was trying to say in my last email. But if you look at the light bulb and reversed the connections at the bulb in "A" the bulb would still burn since the diode is conducting and allows current to flow. If you did the same thing in 'B' the bulb still wouldn't burn since the diode isn't conducting. But if you put the diode at the bulb then the light wouldn't burn in either "A" or "B" in one hook up direction. And yes voltage does have somthing to do with it, if the diode is conducting then voltage will be on both sides of the diode minus ~0.7 v allowing current to flow from the current source. We are both saying the same thing only the placement of the diode is the issue. Stanley > > Stanley, voltage has nothing to do with it..... a diode prevents > reverse current flow.... try it with a meter...... or check this out....> > http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_3/chpt_3/1.html _________________________________________________________________ Earn cashback on your purchases with Live Search - the search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=earncashbac k From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Wed Jun 18 20:32:51 2008 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 21:32:51 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <8C4A7F76-8335-4944-B03B-5DEB82B18B72@sbcglobal.net> Stanley pointed out to me the obvious. A diode has to go on the adapter side. A diode behind the dash (on the supply side) would never work. You could (and should) put a fuse behind the dash on the terminal. Radio Shack also has a 6 amp diode (4 for 1.89) which should be plenty big. On Jun 18, 2008, at 2:43 PM, Stanley Brohn wrote: > Hi all, >>> You need 1N5401 rectifier diode 3A 100V (radio shack or any local > > electronics parts store if you have one) It will go in like an > > inline fuse > but with polarity.> > One end has a line on it and it will go to > the negative > side. So on > positive ground car, the line side will go to the > power negative >> (dash) side. (reverse it for negative ground) >> > > Good explanation >> >> Put a 3 amp inline fuse with it. You might consider putting the >> fuse > and > the rectifier behind the dash.> > > I'm not sure that will give you what you want. The full voltage > (-0.7 V from > it) will still be at the terminals if you put the diode behing the > dash. I > think you would have to put the diode on what ever you plug into > the dash. >> > Sometime to be sure they will have a diode across the input to the > device so > that if it is plugged or connected wrong it will blow the fuse. > > Stanley > _________________________________________________________________ > Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! > http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/ > crea=introsrchca > shback > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From ddubois at sinclair.net Wed Jun 18 21:56:36 2008 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:56:36 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <1FFFE478-CA48-478A-914E-ED6327C5A535@sbcglobal.net> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <5230540C-E38F-4CED-A775-D67ACB0096DB@sbcglobal.net> <1FFFE478-CA48-478A-914E-ED6327C5A535@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4859D8F4.5060508@sinclair.net> > If your afraid of damaging the car wiring, skip the sockets and run 2 wires directly from the battery and fuse it. It doesn't matter where the wires are connected, the danger is still there - you are connecting negative 12 volts to the ground side of the device you are plugging in and if that device has any exposed metal that is in contact with the ground in the device, it will cause a problem if it comes in contact with the car's ground. Cheers, Dave From JagMkV at aol.com Thu Jun 19 12:50:43 2008 From: JagMkV at aol.com (JagMkV at aol.com) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 14:50:43 EDT Subject: [Mg-t] Inspection lamp Message-ID: My wife gave me an original Lucas Inspection Lamp for Christmas. We found it at the British Invasion. It needs to be rewired. Does anyone know what kind of wire it should contain, and where I can find some? Many thanks Craig Carragan Southbury, CT USA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From mgbob at juno.com Thu Jun 19 13:18:44 2008 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:18:44 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" Message-ID: <20080619.163127.1068.3.MGBOB@juno.com> Mike, Thanks. That's a useful thing to know. I think I have a spare plug, so will make up one of these handy adapters as you described. Would it be OK to forward your advice to our club newsletter editor for inclusion as a tech tip? Bob On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:20:22 -0500 Mike Duvall writes: > You need 1N5401 rectifier diode 3A 100V (radio shack > or any local > electronics parts store if you have one) It will go in like an > inline fuse but with polarity. > > One end has a line on it and it will go to the negative side. So > on > positive ground car, the line side will go to the power negative > > (dash) side. (reverse it for negative ground) > > Put a 3 amp inline fuse with it. You might consider putting the > fuse > and the rectifier behind the dash. > > It is like a one way hydraulic valve. It won't work backwards so > you > just reverse the plug. > > > On Jun 18, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Bob Howard wrote: > > > Bob, > > Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's > OK, > > and > > if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the > plug? > > Bob > > > > > > ____________________________________________________________ Enter for Your Chance to WIN* The TotalBeauty.com Summer Spa Sweepstakes! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UfhXx7fftVqdUrrqj4bniTvk9gDQiR1f0Jgw22cX6er9De/ From mgbob at juno.com Thu Jun 19 13:27:10 2008 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2008 15:27:10 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Electric coolers Message-ID: <20080619.163127.1068.4.MGBOB@juno.com> Charlie, Thanks. That's a neat cooler. Do I recall dimly from highschool physics that the device that heats / cools depending on polarity of power is a Peltier or Pelletier junction? Bob On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:25:38 -0400 Charlie Baldwin writes: > Bob, > Another nice thing about the electric cooler is that when you get to > a > hotel, there is an adapter that you can use to plug it into the wall > > socket. I haven't gotten any complaints from hotels. Perhaps they > like > that better than everyone raiding the ice machines to fill their > coolers. > I think I got it at K mart several years ago. At the time it was a > > closeout special. I may need to look for another as it doesn't seem > to > cool as well as it did when new. If things aren't cold already, it > > can't seem to keep up. > It fits quite nicely in the "luggage compartment". Exterior size is > > similar to a Coleman Oscar. > I just run the lead under the seat back at the tunnel and along the > > tunnel to the dash. My cigarette lighter socket has lugs that take > wood > screws to screw it to the back side of the dash. > > Charlie > PS > I just did a search. Check out http://tinyurl.com/5kfp29 > I know I didn't pay nearly that much though. It looks a lot like > it, > though maybe not exactly the same. > PPS Here is the brand that I have: http://tinyurl.com/yum2fn > A bit cheaper and cools better. > > Bob Howard wrote: > Charlie, > I agree about the neg earth, and changed my TD years ago. > The problem with using the dash plug is accidentally putting it > in > "wrong" so that anything grounded to car chassis gets zapped if > there is > any grounding through its antenna. If one isolates the antenna or > uses > magnetic base, the CB is unaffected. I've read in several places > that > the spark plugs do fire better with > pos earth, but everyone agrees that if it's better it is so little > better > as to almost be past measuring. As long as the coil is wired > correctly, > they get full sparking power and everything works fine. Originally > our > coils had CB and something else marked on them instead of + and -, > possibly a tacit admission that the entire world was moving away > from pos > earth. If Hal Kramer installs a diode & transistor package in the > clock ( > reduces arcing on the points) he wants to know polarity. I like > your > idea of the electric cooler---have not seen one small > enough to work in the TD's space. Now I will have to go looking for > one. > Bob > ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! 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Does anyone know what kind of wire it should contain, and where I can find some? Many thanks Craig Carragan Southbury, CT USA **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) Mg-t at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz Thu Jun 19 19:40:04 2008 From: Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz (Douglas Ormrod) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 13:40:04 +1200 Subject: [Mg-t] Unusual TD side screens Message-ID: This pair of allegedly TD sidescreens with sliding windows has turned up on our local NZ auction site. Anyone come across these before - were they an aftermarket accessory or perhaps custom made? http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=161429329 Cheers Douglas From crownwheel at surfglobal.net Fri Jun 20 03:44:47 2008 From: crownwheel at surfglobal.net (Gene Fodor) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 05:44:47 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Unusual TD side screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <019301c8d2ba$47b45610$d71d0230$@net> Doug, it may be custom made, not a bad idea though. It seems that the frame is missing the rear pin (unless you can't see it from the pix) that fits into the door. So it may not be a TD frame. Cheers Gene "Eliot" Our 53 TD Vermont -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Douglas Ormrod Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2008 9:40 PM To: mg-t at autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Unusual TD side screens This pair of allegedly TD sidescreens with sliding windows has turned up on our local NZ auction site. Anyone come across these before - were they an aftermarket accessory or perhaps custom made? http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=161429329 Cheers Douglas Mg-t at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From kingseim at earthlink.net Fri Jun 20 09:00:41 2008 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 08:00:41 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Unusual TD side screens In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: They don't have the front arm that secures in the side curtain plate bracket. I have seen something like this for a TD Hard Top. Made by Snug-Fit in Long Beach, California. They made plexi-glass sliding window side curtains for the doors, to fit their top. Could be another company that also made a fiberglas hard top for a TD. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jun 19, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Douglas Ormrod wrote: > This pair of allegedly TD sidescreens with sliding windows has turned > up > on our local NZ auction site. Anyone come across these before - were > they an aftermarket accessory or perhaps custom made? > > http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=161429329 > > Cheers > > Douglas From gunnellj at athenet.net Sun Jun 22 16:11:38 2008 From: gunnellj at athenet.net (John A. Gunnell) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:11:38 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] (no subject) Message-ID: <001e01c8d4b4$f2c8b220$cda25f45@gunnellj> From gunnellj at athenet.net Sun Jun 22 16:24:34 2008 From: gunnellj at athenet.net (John A. Gunnell) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:24:34 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems Message-ID: <002701c8d4b6$c0e18280$cda25f45@gunnellj> All This was a bad week. I "broke" two T Series. Need some feedback on problems and solutions. Drove MG TF about 500 mileson two trips. Last trip was 160 miles. Everything OK. Stopped for lunch. Took off after lunch and steering had tightened up tremendously. Could just about steer home. Took tie rod ends off. Problem is in the rack. Bouth boots (gaitors) were not very old but both were torn. I have since been told that boots being sold now are too short. Better to use longer MGB boots with MG T clamps. So what is the quality of rack rebuilding parts being sold today? Does anyone have experience? And would you just buy all new parts or would you tear down, inspect, replace bad parts and keep as many good old parts as possible? Problem 2. With TF down, we took the well-worn TD out of mothballs and drove it 20 miles to a club gathering. On way back (alone) we stopped to top off the tank with high test (no ethonol). As soon as we left the filling station, the engine started racing at 2,500 + rpm by itself. We worked it into gear and limped home the 20 miles at 30 mph or better without ever touching the accelerator. The choke cable and carb linkage all seemed to be OK in a roadside check. If I start car now, it will immediately race at 2500 + rpm. Anyone have a similar experience? Any idea of cause or how to repair. John Gunnell PO Box 87 Iola, WI 54945 715-445-4262 gunnellj at athenet.net From budkrueger at comcast.net Sun Jun 22 17:13:41 2008 From: budkrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:13:41 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems In-Reply-To: <002701c8d4b6$c0e18280$cda25f45@gunnellj> References: <002701c8d4b6$c0e18280$cda25f45@gunnellj> Message-ID: <485EDCA5.50708@comcast.net> John A. Gunnell wrote: > All > > This was a bad week. I "broke" two T Series. Need some feedback on problems > and solutions. > > Drove MG TF about 500 mileson two trips. Last trip was 160 miles. Everything > OK. Stopped for lunch. Took off after lunch and steering had tightened up > tremendously. Could just about steer home. Took tie rod ends off. Problem is > in the rack. Bouth boots (gaitors) were not very old but both were torn. I > have since been told that boots being sold now are too short. Better to use > longer MGB boots with MG T clamps. So what is the quality of rack rebuilding > parts being sold today? Does anyone have experience? And would you just buy > all new parts or would you tear down, inspect, replace bad parts and keep as > many good old parts as possible? > > Problem 2. With TF down, we took the well-worn TD out of mothballs and drove > it 20 miles to a club gathering. On way back (alone) we stopped to top off the > tank with high test (no ethonol). As soon as we left the filling station, the > engine started racing at 2,500 + rpm by itself. We worked it into gear and > limped home the 20 miles at 30 mph or better without ever touching the > accelerator. The choke cable and carb linkage all seemed to be OK in a > roadside check. If I start car now, it will immediately race at 2500 + rpm. > Anyone have a similar experience? Any idea of cause or how to repair. > > John Gunnell > PO Box 87 > Iola, WI 54945 > 715-445-4262 > gunnellj at athenet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Can't say about the Boot issue, but I have ideas about the TD. About the only way for that to happen is for something to be keeping the throttle disks (butterflies) from closing. I'd suggest that you might want to unhook the accelerator control rod (the ball/spring gadget). The springs on the throttle shafts should be enough to close the throttles. Do they close? If not, then something is binding. Loosen the screw/nut on the coupling between the two throttle shafts so as to make the carburetors function independently. Will they both close, or does one remain open? > Good luck, Bud Krueger From redscirocco at hotmail.com Sun Jun 22 17:45:26 2008 From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 19:45:26 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems In-Reply-To: <002701c8d4b6$c0e18280$cda25f45@gunnellj> References: <002701c8d4b6$c0e18280$cda25f45@gunnellj> Message-ID: John, The oil drained out of the steering rack because of the torn boots. I have the same problem - I've got to get two new boots on. If you put a few strokes of the recommended oil (90 weight hypoid, I believe) your steering should improve. Of course, it will drain out again, and again, until you get new boots. -Mike Eldred '54 TF 1250> From: gunnellj at athenet.net> To: mg-t at autox.team.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:24:34 -0500> Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems> > All> > This was a bad week. I "broke" two T Series. Need some feedback on problems> and solutions.> > Drove MG TF about 500 mileson two trips. Last trip was 160 miles. Everything> OK. Stopped for lunch. Took off after lunch and steering had tightened up> tremendously. Could just about steer home. Took tie rod ends off. Problem is> in the rack. Bouth boots (gaitors) were not very old but both were torn. I> have since been told that boots being sold now are too short. Better to use> longer MGB boots with MG T clamps. So what is the quality of rack rebuilding> parts being sold today? Does anyone have experience? And would you just buy> all new parts or would you tear down, inspect, replace bad parts and keep as> many good old parts as possible?> > Problem 2. With TF down, we took the well-worn TD out of mothballs and drove> it 20 miles to a club gathering. On way back (alone) we stopped to top off the> tank with high test (no ethonol). As soon as we left the filling station, the> engine started racing at 2,500 + rpm by itself. We worked it into gear and> limped home the 20 miles at 30 mph or better without ever touching the> accelerator. The choke cable and carb linkage all seemed to be OK in a> roadside check. If I start car now, it will immediately race at 2500 + rpm.> Anyone have a similar experience? Any idea of cause or how to repair.> > John Gunnell> PO Box 87> Iola, WI 54945> 715-445-4262> gunnellj at athenet.net> _______________________________________________> > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html> > Mg-t at autox.team.net> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t> > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive _________________________________________________________________ Introducing Live Search cashback . It's search that pays you back! http://search.live.com/cashback/?&pkw=form=MIJAAF/publ=HMTGL/crea=introsrchca shback From TATERRY at aol.com Sun Jun 22 20:37:06 2008 From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com) Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 22:37:06 EDT Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems Message-ID: In a message dated 6/22/2008 3:49:58 PM Pacific Standard Time, gunnellj at athenet.net writes: > If I start car now, it will immediately race at 2500 + rpm. > Anyone have a similar experience? Any idea of cause or how to repair. > John, something is keeping your throttle from closing all the way...the choke is on or there is a massive air leak. Terry in Oakland


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(http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) From mgbob at juno.com Mon Jun 23 04:55:34 2008 From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:55:34 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Two Problems Message-ID: <20080623.065655.3748.3.MGBOB@juno.com> John, Sorry to read of the troubles. I don't have experience with the rack troubles you experienced. Sorry, no thoughts to offer. Check diameters of the large end of MGB and TD boots(gaiters). I think they are different. May 2004 replaced gaiters on my TD. May 2004 replaced gaiters on my TD. Four years.... At one of our CT Club tech sessions we found several SUs that were stuck in various ways, thought to be from water/alcohol in the fuel. The jets were binding in jet glands of a couple of TDs, MGAs and MGBs, causing the jets to stick down when choke cable was released. On another, the throttle shafts of both carbs were sticking. Owners said they worked find when cars were put away in the autumn. The brass bits were mottled in color, as if water had been in contact with the brass. It's easy to understand how that could be the case with the jets, less so to see how it would affect the throttles though. Check that the pistons drop to the bridge with a click. Bob On Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:24:34 -0500 "John A. Gunnell" writes: > All > > This was a bad week. I "broke" two T Series. Need some feedback on > problems > and solutions. > > Drove MG TF about 500 mileson two trips. Last trip was 160 miles. > Everything > OK. Stopped for lunch. Took off after lunch and steering had > tightened up > tremendously. Could just about steer home. Took tie rod ends off. > Problem is > in the rack. Bouth boots (gaitors) were not very old but both were > torn. I > have since been told that boots being sold now are too short. Better > to use > longer MGB boots with MG T clamps. So what is the quality of rack > rebuilding > parts being sold today? Does anyone have experience? And would you > just buy > all new parts or would you tear down, inspect, replace bad parts and > keep as > many good old parts as possible? > > Problem 2. With TF down, we took the well-worn TD out of mothballs > and drove > it 20 miles to a club gathering. On way back (alone) we stopped to > top off the > tank with high test (no ethonol). As soon as we left the filling > station, the > engine started racing at 2,500 + rpm by itself. We worked it into > gear and > limped home the 20 miles at 30 mph or better without ever touching > the > accelerator. The choke cable and carb linkage all seemed to be OK in > a > roadside check. If I start car now, it will immediately race at 2500 > + rpm. > Anyone have a similar experience? Any idea of cause or how to > repair. > > John Gunnell > PO Box 87 > Iola, WI 54945 > 715-445-4262 > gunnellj at athenet.net > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive > > ____________________________________________________________ Sweepstakes!!! Enter for your chance to WIN one of hundreds of daily prizes. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/JKFkuJi7UnnYH8okO4sAOac7q7nPrP51Tq6EoMg9ZaujPXbGkLTZw4/ From bobmgtd at comcast.net Mon Jun 23 09:29:36 2008 From: bobmgtd at comcast.net (Bob Donahue) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:29:36 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> Message-ID: <003e01c8d545$f299bb00$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Yes, the diode only lets the current flow one way. By using four diodes in what's called a "bridge configuration", the device can even work plugged in either way. Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 Member: NEMGTR #11470 NAMGBR # 7-3336 Hoosier MGB Club Olde Octagons of Indiana ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Howard" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:18 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" > Bob, > Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's OK, and > if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the plug? > Bob > > On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:43:37 -0400 "Bob Donahue" > writes: >> A diode in series with one of the leads can protect the device >> against >> reverse polarity. I plan to put one in my "adapter". >> >> Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) >> Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net >> Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 >> 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 >> Member: NEMGTR #11470 >> NAMGBR # 7-3336 >> Hoosier MGB Club >> Olde Octagons of Indiana From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Mon Jun 23 10:02:04 2008 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:02:04 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" In-Reply-To: <003e01c8d545$f299bb00$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> References: <20080618.122205.3956.29.MGBOB@juno.com> <003e01c8d545$f299bb00$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr> Message-ID: I thought that just worked with AC to DC conversion because that is the example always given, but as I look at the diagram, that is the best configuration given the diodes are cheap..... For a hookup diagram go to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diode_bridge On Jun 23, 2008, at 10:29 AM, Bob Donahue wrote: > Yes, the diode only lets the current flow one way. By using four > diodes in > what's called a "bridge configuration", the device can even work > plugged in > either way. > > Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) > Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net > Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 > 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 > Member: NEMGTR #11470 > NAMGBR # 7-3336 > Hoosier MGB Club > Olde Octagons of Indiana > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Howard" > To: > Cc: > Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Plug for "Inspection Lamp Socket" > > >> Bob, >> Does the use of the diode mean that if the device works it's OK, >> and >> if it doesn't work there is no harm done -- just reverse the plug? >> Bob >> >> On Wed, 18 Jun 2008 11:43:37 -0400 "Bob Donahue" >> >> writes: >>> A diode in series with one of the leads can protect the device >>> against >>> reverse polarity. I plan to put one in my "adapter". >>> >>> Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s) >>> Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net >>> Cars: 52 MGTD - #17639 >>> 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361 >>> Member: NEMGTR #11470 >>> NAMGBR # 7-3336 >>> Hoosier MGB Club >>> Olde Octagons of Indiana > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From dhhall at bellsouth.net Sat Jun 28 11:03:07 2008 From: dhhall at bellsouth.net (dhhall at bellsouth.net) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:03:07 +0000 Subject: [Mg-t] gas tank coating Message-ID: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> I would like to coat the inside of my MGTD gas tank with a protective coating (Red-Kote). The tank seems to be segmented inside. I'm not sure if I need to unscrew the plate on the lower back side to remove this. Excuse my ignorance, but is this some sort of gas gauge sender? If so, it certainly seems I should remove it. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, David From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net Sat Jun 28 11:10:16 2008 From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:10:16 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] gas tank coating In-Reply-To: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> References: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> Message-ID: It is all welded together and you cannot take it apart...The sender is the small plate on the back and it won't do any good to remove it other than protect it from the coating (if you need to) You either have to fill it or take it off and slosh the fluid around to coat it. Mike On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:03 PM, dhhall at bellsouth.net wrote: > I would like to coat the inside of my MGTD gas tank with a > protective coating (Red-Kote). The tank seems to be segmented > inside. I'm not sure if I need to unscrew the plate on the lower > back side to remove this. Excuse my ignorance, but is this some > sort of gas gauge sender? If so, it certainly seems I should > remove it. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, David > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From hstrachman at yahoo.com Sat Jun 28 13:13:47 2008 From: hstrachman at yahoo.com (herb strachman) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 12:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals Message-ID: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Greetings, While trying to rewire my '53 TD, I was able to get my life side blinkers to work but my right side are completely dead. Any suggestions? Thanks, Herb From jfischer at supercollider.com Sat Jun 28 13:37:10 2008 From: jfischer at supercollider.com (James Fischer) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 15:37:10 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <000101c8d956$5c3cc340$0201000a@j> Check the wires running to the "control box" with care. I remember that I had quite a time getting all the wires to make good electrical contact with the screw-down contacts when I installed a new harness. > While trying to rewire my '53 TD, I was able to get my > life side blinkers to work but my right side are > completely dead. Any suggestions? From budkrueger at comcast.net Sat Jun 28 14:31:40 2008 From: budkrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 16:31:40 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] gas tank coating In-Reply-To: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> References: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> Message-ID: <48669FAC.3000705@comcast.net> dhhall at bellsouth.net wrote: > I would like to coat the inside of my MGTD gas tank with a protective coating (Red-Kote). The tank seems to be segmented inside. I'm not sure if I need to unscrew the plate on the lower back side to remove this. Excuse my ignorance, but is this some sort of gas gauge sender? If so, it certainly seems I should remove it. Any thoughts? Thanks in advance, David > _______________________________________________ > > Yes, there are baffles welded in place inside of the tank. Yes, you should remove the petrol level switch float. Otherwise the coating will total mess it up. If you insist upon coating the tank be certain that it is absolutely clean inside. Be certain that the coating material can handle today's blended gasolines. Bud Krueger From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com Sat Jun 28 16:43:04 2008 From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 17:43:04 -0500 Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Pop the cover on the turn signal relay and check the contacts. They often become dirty or slightly bent. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of herb strachman Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:14 PM To: Mg-t at autox.team.net Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals Greetings, While trying to rewire my '53 TD, I was able to get my life side blinkers to work but my right side are completely dead. Any suggestions? Thanks, Herb Mg-t at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From ddubois at sinclair.net Sun Jun 29 00:47:30 2008 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 23:47:30 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <000101c8d956$5c3cc340$0201000a@j> References: <000101c8d956$5c3cc340$0201000a@j> Message-ID: <48673002.70007@sinclair.net> > I remember that I had quite a time getting all the wires to make good electrical contact with the screw-down contacts when I installed a new harness. See the article, Electrical Connection Preparation in the Other Tech Articles on my Web site: http://homepages.donobi.net/sufuelpumps/ When putting this article together, I was working on a turn signal relay for a gentleman and use it for pictures of before and after on cleaning connection points and how to get the best connection. Cheers, Dave From kingseim at earthlink.net Sun Jun 29 07:43:05 2008 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:43:05 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <907a95545ccf88ff5809f083250df816@earthlink.net> There is a site, Barney Jackson's MG With an Attitude, that covers among other things, all electrical things on a MGA. Same turn signal relay box used with the TD and TF. In depth operation coverage. Sounds like the contact on one of the relays is dirty. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jun 28, 2008, at 12:13 PM, herb strachman wrote: > Greetings, > > While trying to rewire my '53 TD, I was able to get my life side > blinkers to > work but my right side are completely dead. Any suggestions? > > Thanks, > Herb > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From kingseim at earthlink.net Sun Jun 29 07:36:35 2008 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 06:36:35 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] gas tank coating In-Reply-To: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> References: <062820081703.21325.48666ECA000C5CA50000534D22230703729B0A02D2089B9A019C04040A0DBF04040E08080B@att.net> Message-ID: That is the sending unit for the low fuel warning lamp. It does not work if coated with something else. If it has been in since car was new, then probably need a new one. So, go ahead, and slosh the inside of the tank. Also, Bill Hirsch makes gas tank sloshing compounds. Original formula, and latest one for fuels with alcohol in them. To seal the new sending unit. Buy a new unit from Abingdon Spares. Theirs comes with a fiber washer set, that works much better than cork or rubber. If you have a new sending unit, and just need these gaskets, part no. is 19/157H. Using a honing stone, hone flat both the flange on the tank, and the mating face on the sending unit. Purchase Yamabond #4 from a Yamaha dealer. Coat both sides of all gaskets, as well as the threads of the screws that you are going to install the unit with. You should end up with no leaks by doing this. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jun 28, 2008, at 10:03 AM, dhhall at bellsouth.net wrote: > I would like to coat the inside of my MGTD gas tank with a protective > coating (Red-Kote). The tank seems to be segmented inside. I'm not > sure if I need to unscrew the plate on the lower back side to remove > this. Excuse my ignorance, but is this some sort of gas gauge sender? > If so, it certainly seems I should remove it. Any thoughts? Thanks > in advance, David > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From ddubois at sinclair.net Sun Jun 29 12:06:13 2008 From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 11:06:13 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals In-Reply-To: <907a95545ccf88ff5809f083250df816@earthlink.net> References: <821851.66929.qm@web32607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <907a95545ccf88ff5809f083250df816@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4867CF15.1000105@sinclair.net> John, > There is a site, Barney Jackson's MG With an Attitude I believe that you are referring Barney Gaylord' site at: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ Lots of good information on there that is applicable to the T series cars. Cheers, Dave From redscirocco at hotmail.com Sun Jun 29 18:58:33 2008 From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred) Date: Sun, 29 Jun 2008 20:58:33 -0400 Subject: [Mg-t] Temp gauge kaput Message-ID: The temp gauge in my 1954 TF 1250 isn't working - I know I'll have to send it out to be repaired, but does anyone have any thoughts on a temporary guage solution? I don't want to have to deadline it while the gauge is out. I was thinking of getting an aftermarket electrical gauge and sending unit for a temporary setup, but I'm not sure what might fit. Also, any recommendations on where to send the original unit for repair? Cheers, -Mike Eldred Wilmington, VT _________________________________________________________________ Enter the Zune-A-Day Giveaway for your chance to win  day after day after day http://www.windowslive-hotmail.com/ZuneADay/?locale=en-US&ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Mobi le_Zune_V1 From kingseim at earthlink.net Mon Jun 30 09:18:44 2008 From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 08:18:44 -0700 Subject: [Mg-t] Temp gauge kaput In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: APT Instruments (Charles) 9632 Humbolt Ave. So. Bloomington, MN 55431 952-881-7095 MO-MA 1321 2nd St. N.W. Albuquerque, N.M. 505-766-6661 momanm at qwest.net Nisonger Instrument 570 Mamaroneck Ave. Mamaroneck, N.Y. 914-381-1952 West Valley Instruments 19314 Van Owen Blvd. Reseda, CA 91335 818-758-9500 Vintage Restorations - John Marks The Old Bakery, Windmill Street, Turnbridge Wells, Kent, England TN2 4UU 011-44-1892-525899 instruments at vintagerestorations.com You could just plug off the opening. It is 3/8" british standard pipe parallel. Or, a MGB combo gauge will work. John Seim Irvine, CA On Jun 29, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Mike Eldred wrote: > The temp gauge in my 1954 TF 1250 isn't working - I know I'll have to > send it > out to be repaired, but does anyone have any thoughts on a temporary > guage > solution? I don't want to have to deadline it while the gauge is out. > I was > thinking of getting an aftermarket electrical gauge and sending unit > for a > temporary setup, but I'm not sure what might fit. > > Also, any recommendations on where to send the original unit for > repair? > > Cheers, > -Mike Eldred > Wilmington, VT > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-t at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t > > Archives at http://www.team.net/archive From hstrachman at yahoo.com Mon Jun 30 19:07:28 2008 From: hstrachman at yahoo.com (herb strachman) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:07:28 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Mg-t] Turn Signals Message-ID: <680280.1421.qm@web32603.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Thanks to all who replied to my question about the turn signals. It was the contacts in the relay box. Thanks, Herb --- On Sun, 6/29/08, Dave and Liz DuBois wrote: From: Dave and Liz DuBois Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Turn Signals To: "John Seim" Cc: hstrachman at yahoo.com, Mg-t at autox.team.net Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 2:06 PM John, > There is a site, Barney Jackson's MG With an Attitude I believe that you are referring Barney Gaylord' site at: http://mgaguru.com/mgtech/ Lots of good information on there that is applicable to the T series cars. Cheers, Dave