From scvc70 at epix.net  Mon Jan 14 08:50:22 2008
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 10:50:22 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Monday mystery bit
Message-ID: <010201c856c5$2e08bdd0$843a4ad1@S0026273562>

Good morning listers,

Here's something to get the grey matter working this Monday morning.

I just came across a mystery bit we found at AACA Hershey flea market last
fall: a casting of thin chromed brass in the shape of a knockoff, with
recessed-background MG logo in the center.  It measures 4" across the round
center part, 6-1/2" from eartip to eartip.  On the back there is a center
female threaded stud (with screw and lockwasher) and a plain stud just above
that.  The name "DUVALL & WALKER" is cast in between the 2 studs.    Clearly
it's meant to be attached to something else from the back--but what is it?
We've gone through all our MG books and have not found anything looking like
this.

ID, anyone?

Thanks!
Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA

From jfischer at supercollider.com  Mon Jan 14 09:48:33 2008
From: jfischer at supercollider.com (James Fischer)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:48:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Monday mystery bit
In-Reply-To: <010201c856c5$2e08bdd0$843a4ad1@S0026273562>
Message-ID: <000501c856cd$4d95b380$0201000a@j>

Here they are.

They seem to be aftermarket "fake knock-off hubs" for
an aftermarket wire-wheel conversion kit.

http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgtd/mgtd_accessories_wire_wheels.htm


> The name "DUVALL & WALKER" is cast in between the 2 studs.    
> Clearly it's meant to be attached to something else from the back--
> but what is it? 

Its just BLING.  Paleo-Bling, but still bling.

From scvc70 at epix.net  Mon Jan 14 09:59:20 2008
From: scvc70 at epix.net (Carr&Edwards)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 11:59:20 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Monday mystery bit
References: <000501c856cd$4d95b380$0201000a@j>
Message-ID: <000801c856ce$cf69ac80$7c1a4ad1@S0026273562>

You got it!  (Note the photo of one attached to what looks like a stock 
TD/TF hubcap -- aargh!!!)  Anybody ever seen a car with these things on?

Sarah Carr
TD3942EXLU in PA




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Fischer" <jfischer at supercollider.com>
To: "'Carr&Edwards'" <scvc70 at epix.net>; "'Listserve T-series'" 
<mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 11:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Mg-t] Monday mystery bit


> Here they are.
>
> They seem to be aftermarket "fake knock-off hubs" for
> an aftermarket wire-wheel conversion kit.
>
> http://www.mgcars.org.uk/mgtd/mgtd_accessories_wire_wheels.htm
>
>
>> The name "DUVALL & WALKER" is cast in between the 2 studs.
>> Clearly it's meant to be attached to something else from the back--
>> but what is it?
>
> Its just BLING.  Paleo-Bling, but still bling.

From JVK52TD at aol.com  Mon Jan 14 10:34:47 2008
From: JVK52TD at aol.com (JVK52TD at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 12:34:47 EST
Subject: [Mg-t] Abingdon Factory
Message-ID: <bf4.1a3dc000.34bcf737@aol.com>

Hi Listers,
 
Many years ago at the Summer Party in Grand Rapids I bought a print of  the 
Abingdon Factory with cars sitting outside the building.  This photo  became 
damaged in storage and I would like to replace it if anyone has a clue to  whom 
might have these ??
 
Thanks,
 
John in IL



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From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Mon Jan 14 11:01:32 2008
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 18:01:32 -0000
Subject: [Mg-t] Abingdon Factory
References: <bf4.1a3dc000.34bcf737@aol.com>
Message-ID: <001501c856d7$7ffd6750$0202a8c0@cypress>

Have you tried the MGCC Office which is situated on the site of the old 
factory?

Clive

================================
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <JVK52TD at aol.com>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2008 5:34 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] Abingdon Factory


> Hi Listers,
>
> Many years ago at the Summer Party in Grand Rapids I bought a print of 
> the
> Abingdon Factory with cars sitting outside the building.  This photo 
> became
> damaged in storage and I would like to replace it if anyone has a clue to 
> whom
> might have these ??
>
> Thanks,
>
> John in IL
>
>
>
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From KRISLYNCO.LLC at roadrunner.com  Sat Jan 26 11:55:17 2008
From: KRISLYNCO.LLC at roadrunner.com (KRISLYN COMPANY)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:55:17 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] td cooling
Message-ID: <000801c8604c$fe783190$6501a8c0@CompaqXPHome>

hello folks,,,,,
does anyone know if the td's cooling system is pressurized or just pumped
about ??

thanks
rocky d

From lkarpman at tx.rr.com  Sat Jan 26 12:44:24 2008
From: lkarpman at tx.rr.com (Larry Karpman)
Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2008 13:44:24 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] td cooling
In-Reply-To: <000801c8604c$fe783190$6501a8c0@CompaqXPHome>
Message-ID: <000301c86053$db50d940$6401a8c0@yourwg5n33dutv>

The TD cooling system in not pressurized. The TF is.

Cheers
Larry 

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces+lkarpman=tx.rr.com at autox.team.net
[mailto:mg-t-bounces+lkarpman=tx.rr.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of KRISLYN
COMPANY
Sent: Saturday, January 26, 2008 12:55 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] td cooling

hello folks,,,,,
does anyone know if the td's cooling system is pressurized or just pumped
about ??

thanks
rocky d
_______________________________________________

From eabb at loc.gov  Sun Jan 27 09:30:03 2008
From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo)
Date: Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:30:03 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <479C6B3B0200007400030917@ntgwgate.loc.gov>

I want to replace the aftermarket electric fuel pump that came with my
Singer with the correct SU pump mounted on the firewall. "Sucker" type
delivering about 1 B= to 2 pounds pressure, 12 volts, negative ground.

I understand you can now get these pumps with either the old style
points setup or with the newer breakerless electronic setup.

Any feedback, pro or con on reliability on either setup appreciated.

Thanks,

Gene

From mgbob at juno.com  Mon Jan 28 09:37:37 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:37:37 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <20080128.113738.3024.21.MGBOB@juno.com>

Gene,
   Those in our club who have electronic pumps say that they work fine
until they don't work. Suddenly.  On the other hand, they work fine for a
long time.   Those who have the old style points setup have some warning
when the points are weary, so they know to be ready to replace points or
to replace the pump.  
   The hassle factor of replacing a pump on the firewall is not great. I
think I would stay with the points type pump, but that is not a strongly
held position. Full disclosure requires that I tell that my TD MkII has
two pumps on the firewall, either of which can supply plenty of fuel for
the engine.
   In MGB Driver a month or two back was an article about installation of
an auxiliary pump in an MGB, arranged so that the auxiliary pump could be
switched on to pump through the OEM pump if the OEM pump were to die.  
Considering the hassle factor of the MGB pump thoughfully located in the
dirt forward of the right rear wheel under the body, the auxiliary pump
seems a great idea. 
Bob
 
On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:30:03 -0500 "Eugene D Abbondelo" <eabb at loc.gov>
writes:
> I want to replace the aftermarket electric fuel pump that came with 
> my Singer with the correct SU pump mounted on the firewall. "Sucker" 
> type delivering about 1 B= to 2 pounds pressure, 12 volts, negative 
> ground.
> 
> I understand you can now get these pumps with either the old style
> points setup or with the newer breakerless electronic setup.
> 
> Any feedback, pro or con on reliability on either setup 
> appreciated.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gene

From RBHouston at aol.com  Mon Jan 28 09:47:41 2008
From: RBHouston at aol.com (RBHouston at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:47:41 EST
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <d01.2365de4a.34cf612d@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/28/2008 9:39:21 AM Mountain Standard Time,  
mgbob at juno.com writes:

Considering the hassle factor of the MGB pump thoughfully located in  the
dirt forward of the right rear wheel under the body, the auxiliary  pump
seems a great idea. 
Bob


Sounds like a good idea, but how do you tell if the old pump is  working...or 
is the auxiliary pump switched so you only turn it on when the old  one goes 
out?  I could just see me on the side of the road with two  non-working pumps.

 
Robert  Houston
Texan in NM

LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is  spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table;
Let us  go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of  restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with  oyster-shells:

For I have known them all already, known them  all:-
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out  my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying  fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I  presume?

T. S. ELIOT





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From btsmith at island.net  Mon Jan 28 10:40:11 2008
From: btsmith at island.net (Brian & Jan)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:40:11 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
References: <20080128.113738.3024.21.MGBOB@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000901c861d4$d50b55b0$030aa8c0@SMITH>

I am all for originality but last summer I had a fuel pump failure and had 
to be towed home. I purchased a new point type pump and it failed after 15 
minutes of running. I now have an original looking and sounding SU solid 
state pump and it works great. I have had Dave DuBois rebuild my old 
original pump that will go with the car when it is sold but I also now carry 
a slick little electronic pump with fittings to allow me to connect to the 
original pump and the rear carb with power coming from the original pump 
body and besides being small and easily carried, it takes only about 5 
minutes to connect and you are on your way. I am sure they are available in 
many places but I got mine from Octagon Motor Group in Vancouver BC and it 
is reasonable and good peace of mind.

Just my two cents (can)

Brian
1950 MGTD
1954 MGTF
1974 C/B MGB GT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Howard" <mgbob at juno.com>
To: <eabb at loc.gov>
Cc: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 8:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump


> Gene,
>   Those in our club who have electronic pumps say that they work fine
> until they don't work. Suddenly.  On the other hand, they work fine for a
> long time.   Those who have the old style points setup have some warning
> when the points are weary, so they know to be ready to replace points or
> to replace the pump.
>   The hassle factor of replacing a pump on the firewall is not great. I
> think I would stay with the points type pump, but that is not a strongly
> held position. Full disclosure requires that I tell that my TD MkII has
> two pumps on the firewall, either of which can supply plenty of fuel for
> the engine.
>   In MGB Driver a month or two back was an article about installation of
> an auxiliary pump in an MGB, arranged so that the auxiliary pump could be
> switched on to pump through the OEM pump if the OEM pump were to die.
> Considering the hassle factor of the MGB pump thoughfully located in the
> dirt forward of the right rear wheel under the body, the auxiliary pump
> seems a great idea.
> Bob
>
> On Sun, 27 Jan 2008 11:30:03 -0500 "Eugene D Abbondelo" <eabb at loc.gov>
> writes:
>> I want to replace the aftermarket electric fuel pump that came with
>> my Singer with the correct SU pump mounted on the firewall. "Sucker"
>> type delivering about 1 B= to 2 pounds pressure, 12 volts, negative
>> ground.
>>
>> I understand you can now get these pumps with either the old style
>> points setup or with the newer breakerless electronic setup.
>>
>> Any feedback, pro or con on reliability on either setup
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Gene
> _______________________________________________

From taterry at pacbell.net  Mon Jan 28 10:45:43 2008
From: taterry at pacbell.net (Terry Sanders)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:45:43 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <d01.2365de4a.34cf612d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <125421.67141.qm@web83404.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Robert, what I did when I added a back up fuel pump to my TA was to connect it to the tail light wire so I would not have to run an extra wire.  You can then control it by switching on your tail lights....if the original pump fails or if you just want to test it.  The original pump will not come on until you turn on the ignition switch.
  Terry in Oakland

RBHouston at aol.com wrote:
  In a message dated 1/28/2008 9:39:21 AM Mountain Standard Time, 
mgbob at juno.com writes:

Considering the hassle factor of the MGB pump thoughfully located in the
dirt forward of the right rear wheel under the body, the auxiliary pump
seems a great idea. 
Bob


Sounds like a good idea, but how do you tell if the old pump is working...or 
is the auxiliary pump switched so you only turn it on when the old one goes 
out? I could just see me on the side of the road with two non-working pumps.


Robert Houston
Texan in NM

LET us go then, you and I,
When the evening is spread out against the sky
Like a patient etherised upon a table;
Let us go, through certain half-deserted streets,
The muttering retreats
Of restless nights in one-night cheap hotels
And sawdust restaurants with oyster-shells:

For I have known them all already, known them all:-
Have known the evenings, mornings, afternoons,
I have measured out my life with coffee spoons;
I know the voices dying with a dying fall
Beneath the music from a farther room.
So how should I presume?

T. S. ELIOT





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From ddubois at sinclair.net  Mon Jan 28 12:19:52 2008
From: ddubois at sinclair.net (Dave and Liz DuBois)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:19:52 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <20080128.113738.3024.21.MGBOB@juno.com>
References: <20080128.113738.3024.21.MGBOB@juno.com>
Message-ID: <479E2AD8.7070703@sinclair.net>

The article that appeared in the MGB Driver is my article and can be see 
at: http://www.custompistols.com/cars/dave/BackUpFuelPump.htm

Bob - You can see in the  above article, I have a conveniently located 
single pole double throw switch that switches power from one pump to the 
other (in our MGB is located on the vertical bulkhead right behind the 
passenger's seat where I can switch pumps without even pulling to the 
sie of the road).  If one uses a center off switch, it will also serve 
as a very cheap anti theft device.

Terry - "...was to connect it to the tail light wire so I would not have 
to run an extra wire. You can then control it by switching on your tail 
lights...."
What about when you are driving at night (or do you avoid that?), if 
your pumps are plumbed in series, having both pumps run at the same time 
will cause an increased pressure, which could over power the float bowl 
needle valves and cause flooding.  The other potential problem there is 
if the primary pumps fails in a current on condition and power is left 
on, it will overheat the pump and ultimately burn out the coil if left 
on for a long enough period.

Cheers,
Dave

From mgbob at juno.com  Mon Jan 28 13:47:43 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:47:43 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <20080128.155156.3248.3.MGBOB@juno.com>

Dave,
  Thanks for sending the site address.  I recall now that you wrote that
excellent article. The MGB Driver issue that contains it is out on loan
(wish more of our members would join NAMGBR).  I will be doing the second
fuel pump installation soon. It seems even more useful in MGB than in the
T-series cars as one cannot hear the MGB pump when driving and there
isn't the flick of the ammeter to show that it is pumping at idle. 
   Thanks for the relay kit for my TD brakes. I'm happier now and am sure
the switch is happier too.  
   Inspired by your writings on relays, I installed them in my '72 GT a
couple of weeks back.  The switch is now same temperature as the dash
panel and, pleasantly, the headlamps are brighter. 
Bob

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:19:52 -0800 Dave and Liz DuBois
<ddubois at sinclair.net> writes:
> The article that appeared in the MGB Driver is my article and can be 
> see 
> at: http://www.custompistols.com/cars/dave/BackUpFuelPump.htm
> 
> Bob - You can see in the  above article, I have a conveniently 
> located 
> single pole double throw switch that switches power from one pump to 
> the 
> other (in our MGB is located on the vertical bulkhead right behind 
> the 
> passenger's seat where I can switch pumps without even pulling to 
> the 
> sie of the road).  If one uses a center off switch, it will also 
> serve 
> as a very cheap anti theft device.
> 
> Terry - "...was to connect it to the tail light wire so I would not 
> have 
> to run an extra wire. You can then control it by switching on your 
> tail 
> lights...."
> What about when you are driving at night (or do you avoid that?), if 
> 
> your pumps are plumbed in series, having both pumps run at the same 
> time 
> will cause an increased pressure, which could over power the float 
> bowl 
> needle valves and cause flooding.  The other potential problem there 
> is 
> if the primary pumps fails in a current on condition and power is 
> left 
> on, it will overheat the pump and ultimately burn out the coil if 
> left 
> on for a long enough period.
> 
> Cheers,
> Dave

From mgbob at juno.com  Mon Jan 28 13:40:22 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:40:22 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>

Brian,
   A second pump solves the failure problem elegantly.
   The impoverished student way of pumping, which works if and only if
the diaphragm is intact, is to tie a string to the rod where it protrudes
from the points mechanism, loop it around something not sharp, and
leading it back to your finger at the steering wheel.  With patience and
perseverance, one can manually pump fuel to keep the engine running at
moderate RPMs.  Not recommended, but it works.
Bob

On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 09:40:11 -0800 "Brian & Jan" <btsmith at island.net>
writes:
> I am all for originality but last summer I had a fuel pump failure 
> and had 
> to be towed home. I purchased a new point type pump and it failed 
> after 15 
> minutes of running. I now have an original looking and sounding SU 
> solid 
> state pump and it works great. I have had Dave DuBois rebuild my old 
> 
> original pump that will go with the car when it is sold but I also 
> now carry 
> a slick little electronic pump with fittings to allow me to connect 
> to the 
> original pump and the rear carb with power coming from the original 
> pump 
> body and besides being small and easily carried, it takes only about 
> 5 
> minutes to connect and you are on your way. I am sure they are 
> available in 
> many places but I got mine from Octagon Motor Group in Vancouver BC 
> and it 
> is reasonable and good peace of mind.
> 
> Just my two cents (can)
> 
> Brian
> 1950 MGTD
> 1954 MGTF
> 1974 C/B MGB GT

From mgbob at juno.com  Mon Jan 28 13:14:18 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:14:18 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <20080128.155156.3248.1.MGBOB@juno.com>

  The article said to use a double-throw switch, powering the OEM pump
until it didn't work., then changing over to the auxiliary pump.   With
luck, there would be that running-out-of-fuel power loss (familiar to
those who drove air-cooled Volkswagens) at which time one flips the
switch and gets fuel to the carbs w/o stopping. 
   Running both at same time is the way the TD MkII cars were wired,
which makes no sense to me.  In the MkII cars, one could experience two
dead pumps.   Some owners have separated the wires with a switch, which
seems a good idea.  One wonders why MG did it that way, as each pump is
good for about nine gallons/hour.  If one gets 15 miles/gallon and runs
60 miles in an hour, that's only four gallons.
Bob


On Mon, 28 Jan 2008 11:47:41 EST RBHouston at aol.com writes:
In a message dated 1/28/2008 9:39:21 AM Mountain Standard Time,
mgbob at juno.com writes:
Considering the hassle factor of the MGB pump thoughfully located in the
dirt forward of the right rear wheel under the body, the auxiliary pump
seems a great idea. 
Bob

Sounds like a good idea, but how do you tell if the old pump is
working...or is the auxiliary pump switched so you only turn it on when
the old one goes out?  I could just see me on the side of the road with
two non-working pumps.
 
Robert Houston
Texan in NM

From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Jan 28 15:06:53 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:06:53 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
References: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
Message-ID: <06014EFF-DE69-4CB0-90BE-7D28E907B9E9@sbcglobal.net>

I don't understand why bother with dual pumps.   After 3 pumps in a  
row on my A one summer, I just replaced it with the $30 pump from  
Autozone.  It has run for years without a problem.

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Bob Howard wrote:

> Brian,
>    A second pump solves the failure problem elegantly.
>    The impoverished student way of pumping, which works i

From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jan 28 15:16:22 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:16:22 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
References: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
	<06014EFF-DE69-4CB0-90BE-7D28E907B9E9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <08d501c861fb$6a7be850$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<I don't understand why bother with dual pumps. >>

Standard and CORRECT for Mark II TDs,Mike!!  The also have bigger carbs and
FOUR more shocks<G>!!

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From TATERRY at aol.com  Mon Jan 28 16:01:33 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:01:33 EST
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
Message-ID: <c62.2500a193.34cfb8cd@aol.com>

In a message dated 1/28/2008 11:20:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
ddubois at sinclair.net writes:


> Terry - "...was to connect it to the tail light wire so I would not have 
> to run an extra wire. You can then control it by switching on your tail 
> lights...."
> What about when you are driving at night (or do you avoid that?), if 
> your pumps are plumbed in series, having both pumps run at the same time 
> will cause an increased pressure, which could over power the float bowl 
> needle valves and cause flooding.  The other potential problem there is 
> if the primary pumps fails in a current on condition and power is left 
> on, it will overheat the pump and ultimately burn out the coil if left 
> on for a long enough period.
> 

All I can say Dave is that overpressure has never been a problem and I do 
drive at night.  The back up pump is one of those square ones and ever since I 
installed it years ago, the SU doesn't dare fail and hasn't!!
Terry<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Start the year off right.  Easy ways to stay in shape.<BR>     
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From felperg at earthlink.net  Mon Jan 28 16:06:39 2008
From: felperg at earthlink.net (Gerald Felper)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 15:06:39 -0800
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
In-Reply-To: <06014EFF-DE69-4CB0-90BE-7D28E907B9E9@sbcglobal.net>
References: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
	<06014EFF-DE69-4CB0-90BE-7D28E907B9E9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <581C2090-A10E-46D7-9CA3-1B5E27785E29@earthlink.net>

The second pump is to stop boiling of fuel in the pump on the fire  
wall. It is very hot there and todays fuel boils at a low temperature.
Jerry

On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:06 PM, Mike Duvall wrote:

> I don't understand why bother with dual pumps.   After 3 pumps in a
> row on my A one summer, I just replaced it with the $30 pump from
> Autozone.  It has run for years without a problem.
>
> On Jan 28, 2008, at 2:40 PM, Bob Howard wrote:
>
>> Brian,
>>    A second pump solves the failure problem elegantly.
>>    The impoverished student way of pumping, which works i
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From shop at justbrits.com  Mon Jan 28 15:16:22 2008
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 16:16:22 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] SU fuel pump
References: <20080128.155156.3248.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
	<06014EFF-DE69-4CB0-90BE-7D28E907B9E9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <08d501c861fb$6a7be850$6401a8c0@actualshop>

<<I don't understand why bother with dual pumps. >>

Standard and CORRECT for Mark II TDs,Mike!!  The also have bigger carbs and
FOUR more shocks<G>!!

Ed
(Restoring a '51)
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From jevans at mydb3.com  Thu Jan 24 18:42:25 2008
From: jevans at mydb3.com (jevans at mydb3.com)
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:42:25 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mg-t] 12th British Car Swap Meet & Autojumble
References: In-Reply-To:
Message-ID: <3876.75.57.124.236.1201225345.squirrel@www.mydb3.com>

The 12th annual British Car Swap Meet & Autojumble will be held on
February 24, 2008 from 8 AM to 3 PM at the DuPage County Fairgrounds in
Wheaton, IL.

Vendor preregistration forms were mailed several weeks ago to several
hundred vendors and British car club addresses:  if you are a vendor to
this market and you did not get a preregistration form, please contact me
off list for information; if you are a British car club officer and would
like information about club participation, please contact me off list.

Notification to individuals who have signed up for our mailing list took
place last week.  If you did not get one of our famous "purple postcards"
and would like to get on the mailing list, please contact me off list.

If you live in the Indianapolis, St Louis, Peoria, Rockford, Rock Island,
Chicago or Milwaukee areas watch your Sunday newspaper on January 27 in
the "classic car" (or equivalent) classified ad section for info on the
British Car Swap Meet & Autojumble.

This event now attracts both vendors and shoppers from throughout the
midwest, with over 100 indoor vendor spaces and up to 1,000 shoppers in
recent years.  The location is in a suburban environment roughly 25 miles
west of Chicago.  Info can be had at http://www.britishcarswap.info or by
contacting me directly off list.

The British Car Swap Meet & Autojumble is sponsored by the Chicagoland MG
Club and enjoys the support and participation of all the Chicago area
British car clubs.

FOR THE CHICAGOLAND MG CLUB
Jim Evans
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