From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 19:24:17 2008
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:24:17 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains
Message-ID: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>

Is there a difference in 1953 TD side curtains versus the earlier ones?  
I know that the '53s have the 3 bow top vs. the 2 bow for earlier cars.
Thanks.
Charlie Baldwin

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From budkrueger at comcast.net  Fri Aug  1 19:59:50 2008
From: budkrueger at comcast.net (Bud Krueger)
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2008 21:59:50 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains
In-Reply-To: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>
References: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4893BF96.5020703@comcast.net>

Charlie Baldwin wrote:
> Is there a difference in 1953 TD side curtains versus the earlier ones?  
> I know that the '53s have the 3 bow top vs. the 2 bow for earlier cars.
> Thanks.
> Charlie Baldwin
>
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> _______________________________________________
>
>   
Charlie, see http://www.ttalk.info/Curtains/index.html for info on 2-bow 
vs. 3-bow side curtains.

Bud

From lkarpman at tx.rr.com  Fri Aug  1 20:06:45 2008
From: lkarpman at tx.rr.com (Lawrence Karpman)
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 21:06:45 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains
In-Reply-To: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>
References: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <B1F1AFF065F84DB6815E731F058565F1@LarryPC>

Yes, the 2 bow top side curtains will not fit the 3 bow top properly.

Larry
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Charlie Baldwin" <mgcharlie at comcast.net>
To: "T series list" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains


> Is there a difference in 1953 TD side curtains versus the earlier ones?
> I know that the '53s have the 3 bow top vs. the 2 bow for earlier cars.
> Thanks.
> Charlie Baldwin
>
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From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Sat Aug  2 03:14:55 2008
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 10:14:55 +0100
Subject: [Mg-t] MG Back in production
References: <4893B741.2030106@comcast.net>
	<B1F1AFF065F84DB6815E731F058565F1@LarryPC>
Message-ID: <006001c8f480$3c01c7c0$62830356@cypress>

>From today's UK Daily Express newspaper -

Clive,
Oxford UK
====================================

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/55101/MG-sports-car-back-on-the-road

Daily Express
Saturday August 2,2008
By Martin Stote
A FAMOUS British sports car yesterday began rolling off the production lines
again - at a factory that once symbolised the motor industry's troubles.


The two-seater MG TF LE500 will soon be heading for showrooms from the
Longbridge plant near Birmingham.




A little over three years ago 6,000 workers lost their jobs  when the MG Rover
group collapsed after a doomed rescue bid.




The company was bought by the Chinese carmaker Nanjing Automotive, which last
year was taken over by another Chinese company, Shanghai Automotive.




The new owners yesterday pledged to buck the economic downturn by keeping
their order books full. Gary Hagan, director of marketing, said: "This is
something that we and Birmingham have looked forward to for a long time.




"MG is a uniquely British brand and this marks its reintroduction to the UK.
MG owners, our huge band of enthusiasts and fans of the authentic sports car
driving experience have also looked forward to this day for a long while."

From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Sat Aug  2 20:35:36 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2008 22:35:36 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD
Message-ID: <003501c8f511$9dba2390$0301a8c0@ME>

hello
looking for advice on oil and oil change intervals....  brand new rebuild
(complete) on my 52 TD motor...  has 10-30 in it now and has apprx.  120 miles
on since new ...wanted to change it now in case theres any metal wear and
someone told me to use a 40 weight oil???  any help..thanks.

rocky

From tr6 at pipeline.com  Sun Aug  3 05:52:49 2008
From: tr6 at pipeline.com (Ronald Olds)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:52:49 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Coco Floor Mats
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAAAAAGR0/UN+345Oi0ESU7rmM4wBAITr15KniR9MuVqf/6yjAv4AAAFImMEAABAAAAB9G7zGWTjoSoPFe+Ln2oVlAQAAAAA=@pipeline.com>

I remember someone was looking for coco floor mats for their car.  The link
below is has them on sale for 50% off.

 

http://www.herringtoncatalog.com/ms341.html

 

Ron Olds

From crownwheel at surfglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 06:19:29 2008
From: crownwheel at surfglobal.net (Gene Fodor)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:19:29 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD
In-Reply-To: <003501c8f511$9dba2390$0301a8c0@ME>
References: <003501c8f511$9dba2390$0301a8c0@ME>
Message-ID: <008401c8f563$2e5be180$8b13a480$@net>

Rocky ... I use 20 W 50 Castrol High Mileage oil... but, the engine has
95000 original miles on it.

Cheers
Gene
"Eliot", our '53 TD Unrestored
Vermont

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net
[mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
Krislyn Co.LLC
Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:36 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD

hello
looking for advice on oil and oil change intervals....  brand new rebuild
(complete) on my 52 TD motor...  has 10-30 in it now and has apprx.  120
miles
on since new ...wanted to change it now in case theres any metal wear and
someone told me to use a 40 weight oil???  any help..thanks.

rocky
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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug  3 08:21:45 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 07:21:45 -0700 (GMT-07:00)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
Message-ID: <10535996.1217773305958.JavaMail.root@mswamui-backed.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Rocky,

I used to run Shell Rotela 10-40 diesel truck oil in my 90K original mile TD - got 5psi better hot oil pressure at the gauge and cut consumption in half - Years ago an old Morris club member in Sausalito, CA, who also had a Porsche 911S read about it in a Porsche publication and started using it in all of his old cars.  I still use it today on my 1950 Plymouth business coupe. I use the Castrol high milage stuff in the wife's 100K mile BMW 325i and it cut oil consumption (from a full quart to a half in 3,000 miles).  The stuff that is reccomended for my PT Cruiser looks like salad oil to me..........

best,

Rick Feibusch
Venice CA 

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Gene Fodor <crownwheel at surfglobal.net>
>>Sent: Aug 3, 2008 5:19 AM
>>To: "'Krislyn Co.LLC'" <krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com>, mg-t at autox.team.net
>>Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD
>>
>>Rocky ... I use 20 W 50 Castrol High Mileage oil... but, the engine has
>>95000 original miles on it.
>>
>>Cheers
>>Gene
>>"Eliot", our '53 TD Unrestored
>>Vermont
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net
>>[mailto:mg-t-bounces+crownwheel=surfglobal.net at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of
>>Krislyn Co.LLC
>>Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2008 10:36 PM
>>To: mg-t at autox.team.net
>>Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD
>>
>>hello
>>looking for advice on oil and oil change intervals....  brand new rebuild
>>(complete) on my 52 TD motor...  has 10-30 in it now and has apprx.  120
>>miles
>>on since new ...wanted to change it now in case theres any metal wear and
>>someone told me to use a 40 weight oil???  any help..thanks.
>>
>>rocky
>>Mg-t at autox.team.net
>>http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-t
>>
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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Sun Aug  3 10:43:22 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 08:43:22 -0800 (GMT-08:00)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
Message-ID: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Mick & All,
I wonder if ZDDP will ever be available as an additive. We need to market a new line of products like this - Call it the Codger Line, For old guys who care.........

Best,

Rick

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mick Conde <mmmgtcars at yahoo.com>
>>Sent: Aug 3, 2008 7:00 AM
>>To: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
>>Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>>
>>Rick -  YOU did it right!  Rotella is the only remaining oil with ZDDP for flat top tappets.  Yes, there are other racing oils out there for this with ZDDP @ $8.00 a qt, best watch however, rumor has it they are gonna take it out sometine this year I've heard. rgds.......mick  Pittsburgh PA
>>
>>
>>--- On Sun, 8/3/08, rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>>> To: mg-t at autox.team.net
>>> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:21 AM
>>> Rocky,
>>> 
>>> I used to run Shell Rotela 10-40 diesel truck oil in my 90K
>>> original mile TD - got 5psi better hot oil pressure at the
>>> gauge and cut consumption in half - Years ago an old Morris
>>> club member in Sausalito, CA, who also had a Porsche 911S
>>> read about it in a Porsche publication and started using it
>>> in all of his old cars.  I still use it today on my 1950
>>> Plymouth business coupe. I use the Castrol high milage stuff
>>> in the wife's 100K mile BMW 325i and it cut oil
>>> consumption (from a full quart to a half in 3,000 miles). 
>>> The stuff that is reccomended for my PT Cruiser looks like
>>> salad oil to me..........
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Rick Feibusch
>>> Venice CA 

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From taterry at pacbell.net  Sun Aug  3 10:54:56 2008
From: taterry at pacbell.net (Terry Sanders)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 09:54:56 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <35103.46716.qm@web83413.mail.sp1.yahoo.com>

Rick, Eastwood has ZDDPlus as an additive.....around $9.95 a bottle, add it to your oil change...I also saw it on Amazon is a minute ago.....
  Terry

rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:
  Mick & All,
I wonder if ZDDP will ever be available as an additive. We need to market a new line of products like this - Call it the Codger Line, For old guys who care.........

Best,

Rick

>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Mick Conde 
>>Sent: Aug 3, 2008 7:00 AM
>>To: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
>>Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>>
>>Rick - YOU did it right! Rotella is the only remaining oil with ZDDP for flat top tappets. Yes, there are other racing oils out there for this with ZDDP @ $8.00 a qt, best watch however, rumor has it they are gonna take it out sometine this year I've heard. rgds.......mick Pittsburgh PA
>>
>>
>>--- On Sun, 8/3/08, rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:
>>
>>> From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net 
>>> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>>> To: mg-t at autox.team.net
>>> Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:21 AM
>>> Rocky,
>>> 
>>> I used to run Shell Rotela 10-40 diesel truck oil in my 90K
>>> original mile TD - got 5psi better hot oil pressure at the
>>> gauge and cut consumption in half - Years ago an old Morris
>>> club member in Sausalito, CA, who also had a Porsche 911S
>>> read about it in a Porsche publication and started using it
>>> in all of his old cars. I still use it today on my 1950
>>> Plymouth business coupe. I use the Castrol high milage stuff
>>> in the wife's 100K mile BMW 325i and it cut oil
>>> consumption (from a full quart to a half in 3,000 miles). 
>>> The stuff that is reccomended for my PT Cruiser looks like
>>> salad oil to me..........
>>> 
>>> best,
>>> 
>>> Rick Feibusch
>>> Venice CA 

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From chillmog at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 11:20:16 2008
From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:20:16 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4895E8D0.7070300@sbcglobal.net>

Rick,
It's already available from several sources, MOSS for one.  And many of 
the major oil companies are realizing there is a lucrative market here 
and are coming out with "classic" blends for flat tappet engines.  I 
suspect most will be available in heavier weight oils which aren't 
recommended for newer engines anyway.  You may not be able to pick up 
oil off the shelf for your MG at your local WalMart, but it will be 
available.

Charles Hill

rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:
> Mick & All,
> I wonder if ZDDP will ever be available as an additive. We need to market a new line of products like this - Call it the Codger Line, For old guys who care.........
>
> Best,
>
> Rick

From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 11:27:44 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:27:44 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <C8B643A0-89E4-45EB-A898-C8BE5B57B194@sbcglobal.net>

Castrol has a line of products for the informationally oil challenged  
group of classic car owners.  :)  Basically cheap oils have it.

http://www.castrol.com/castrol/sectiongenericarticle.do? 
categoryId=9014107&contentId=7027099

Castrol Tection Extra for diesel has ZDDP right on the label. Diesel  
oils and and non-api and older api graded oils have it.   Such oils  
are used for snowmobiles, motorcycles and lawn equipment.

Any oil for a vehicle without a catalytic converter works fine. If  
you go to a gas station, pick the cheapest bottle of oil on the shelf  
and it will say not for modern engines for older engines only.  guess  
what -- not for modern engines means it has ZDDP in it...


On Aug 3, 2008, at 11:43 AM, rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net wrote:

> Mick & All,
> I wonder if ZDDP will ever be available as an additive. We need to  
> market a new line of products like this - Call it the Codger Line,  
> For old guys who care.........
>
> Best,
>
> Rick
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Mick Conde <mmmgtcars at yahoo.com>
>>> Sent: Aug 3, 2008 7:00 AM
>>> To: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net
>>> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>>>
>>> Rick -  YOU did it right!  Rotella is the only remaining oil with  
>>> ZDDP for flat top tappets.  Yes, there are other racing oils out  
>>> there for this with ZDDP @ $8.00 a qt, best watch however, rumor  
>>> has it they are gonna take it out sometine this year I've heard.  
>>> rgds.......mick  Pittsburgh PA

From TATERRY at aol.com  Sun Aug  3 11:53:38 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 13:53:38 EDT
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
Message-ID: <c08.41c307ab.35c74aa2@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
chillmog at sbcglobal.net writes:


> You may not be able to pick up 
> oil off the shelf for your MG at your local WalMart, but it will be 
> available.
> 

It turns out that WalMart does carry an oil for high mileage cars.  At least 
this is what I was told.  I've got to go look for it.
Terry<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your 
budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.<BR>      
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )</HTML>

From mark at bradakis.com  Sun Aug  3 12:21:52 2008
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 12:21:52 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <21613037.1217781803154.JavaMail.root@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <4895F740.3090902@bradakis.com>

> I wonder if ZDDP will ever be available as an additive. We need to market a new line of products like this - Call it the Codger Line, For old guys who care.........
>   
Both Redline and Moss Motors carry an additive with the appropriate 
levels of ZDDP
in them.  We use some in all old Brit car oil changes we do at Bailey's 
shop.

mjb.

From tcsyd at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 13:07:28 2008
From: tcsyd at sbcglobal.net (Syd Saperstein)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:07:28 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <c08.41c307ab.35c74aa2@aol.com>
References: <c08.41c307ab.35c74aa2@aol.com>
Message-ID: <5F6ED44F-FD8D-42B0-89D5-058EF03EE200@sbcglobal.net>

According to the ZDDP folks, many of the specialty oils on the market  
like "high mileage" oils while they do have some ZDDP the  
concentration by weight is .02% or less.  The oils that had ZDDP  
pre-1988 after which the amounts dropped, was .15%.  So if the oils  
available for older cars have that much in them all well and good.   
Some Diesel oils still have the ZDDP, but their other characteristics  
are not as good for gasoline engines...so I am told.
TC Syd


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:53 AM, TATERRY at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> chillmog at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>
>> You may not be able to pick up
>> oil off the shelf for your MG at your local WalMart, but it will be
>> available.
>>
>
> It turns out that WalMart does carry an oil for high mileage cars.   
> At least
> this is what I was told.  I've got to go look for it.
> Terry<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Looking for a car that's sporty,  
> fun and fits in your
> budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.<BR>
> (http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 
>  )</HTML>
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From leylandauto at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 13:35:58 2008
From: leylandauto at yahoo.com (Carl French)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:35:58 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <5F6ED44F-FD8D-42B0-89D5-058EF03EE200@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <681459.52706.qm@web51904.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Getting  in a bit late here but Valvoline VR1 racing oil in 20-50 has just
over 1200ppm ZDDP which as i understand is a good breakoff point for levels.
It is the same price of any quality oil and is carried on the shelf at
Autozone, Advance Auto, and NAPA. It is not a true racing oil so it is good
for extended change intervals. The Diesel oils since 2007 have had the same
reduced ZDDP levels for the ultra low sulphur levels etc.
Castrol does have a formulation in 20/50 but they have only put out a
specially labled line of Syntec. Syn oils fall out of my engine like water
(and cost %80 more) so that is not a good choice right now.
FWIW, HTH
Carl

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Syd Saperstein <tcsyd at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Syd Saperstein <tcsyd at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
To: TATERRY at aol.com
Cc: mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 3:07 PM

According to the ZDDP folks, many of the specialty oils on the market
like "high mileage" oils while they do have some ZDDP the
concentration by weight is .02% or less.  The oils that had ZDDP
pre-1988 after which the amounts dropped, was .15%.  So if the oils
available for older cars have that much in them all well and good.
Some Diesel oils still have the ZDDP, but their other characteristics
are not as good for gasoline engines...so I am told.
TC Syd


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:53 AM, TATERRY at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> chillmog at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>
>> You may not be able to pick up
>> oil off the shelf for your MG at your local WalMart, but it will be
>> available.
>>
>
> It turns out that WalMart does carry an oil for high mileage cars.
> At least
> this is what I was told.  I've got to go look for it.
> Terry<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Looking for a
car that's sporty,
> fun and fits in your
> budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.<BR>
>
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut000500000000
17
>  )</HTML>
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From leylandauto at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 13:36:14 2008
From: leylandauto at yahoo.com (Carl French)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 12:36:14 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <5F6ED44F-FD8D-42B0-89D5-058EF03EE200@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

Getting  in a bit late here but Valvoline VR1 racing oil in 20-50 has just
over 1200ppm ZDDP which as i understand is a good breakoff point for levels.
It is the same price of any quality oil and is carried on the shelf at
Autozone, Advance Auto, and NAPA. It is not a true racing oil so it is good
for extended change intervals. The Diesel oils since 2007 have had the same
reduced ZDDP levels for the ultra low sulphur levels etc.
Castrol does have a formulation in 20/50 but they have only put out a
specially labled line of Syntec. Syn oils fall out of my engine like water
(and cost %80 more) so that is not a good choice right now.
FWIW, HTH
Carl

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Syd Saperstein <tcsyd at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Syd Saperstein <tcsyd at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
To: TATERRY at aol.com
Cc: mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 3:07 PM

According to the ZDDP folks, many of the specialty oils on the market
like "high mileage" oils while they do have some ZDDP the
concentration by weight is .02% or less.  The oils that had ZDDP
pre-1988 after which the amounts dropped, was .15%.  So if the oils
available for older cars have that much in them all well and good.
Some Diesel oils still have the ZDDP, but their other characteristics
are not as good for gasoline engines...so I am told.
TC Syd


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:53 AM, TATERRY at aol.com wrote:

> In a message dated 8/3/2008 10:20:47 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> chillmog at sbcglobal.net writes:
>
>
>> You may not be able to pick up
>> oil off the shelf for your MG at your local WalMart, but it will be
>> available.
>>
>
> It turns out that WalMart does carry an oil for high mileage cars.
> At least
> this is what I was told.  I've got to go look for it.
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From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 15:28:14 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 16:28:14 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3818656F-F17C-4D1E-81BE-8CEECC09C9E9@sbcglobal.net>

If you really concerned about how much ZDDP should be in your oil, go  
to http://www.zddplus.com/ and read their arguments.  They discuss  
all the issues (of course their conclusion all favor them) but the  
info makes for an interesting read.....

I'm not convinced there really is a problem enough to spend a ton of  
money on "classic car" formulations.  It was interesting to read for  
a backward rating, they still have to test oil on a flat tappet engine.

That sells me on the idea that the issue is overblown. 

From spook01 at comcast.net  Sun Aug  3 20:36:15 2008
From: spook01 at comcast.net (spook01)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 21:36:15 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
References: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<3818656F-F17C-4D1E-81BE-8CEECC09C9E9@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <E8D7C8D13EA0430D9997D500BB03BACE@yourpd3mh0abgs>

You know that if you guys are freaking out about the the zddp, you can put 
in half a can of cam break-in lube sold at speed shops......just a 
thought.........
Best,
Ray


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Duvall" <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil


> If you really concerned about how much ZDDP should be in your oil, go
> to http://www.zddplus.com/ and read their arguments.  They discuss
> all the issues (of course their conclusion all favor them) but the
> info makes for an interesting read.....
>
> I'm not convinced there really is a problem enough to spend a ton of
> money on "classic car" formulations.  It was interesting to read for
> a backward rating, they still have to test oil on a flat tappet engine.
>
> That sells me on the idea that the issue is overblown.
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From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 21:00:25 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 22:00:25 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <E8D7C8D13EA0430D9997D500BB03BACE@yourpd3mh0abgs>
References: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<3818656F-F17C-4D1E-81BE-8CEECC09C9E9@sbcglobal.net>
	<E8D7C8D13EA0430D9997D500BB03BACE@yourpd3mh0abgs>
Message-ID: <FFF23954-D653-4D9D-8E51-65DF643B4C1C@sbcglobal.net>

Hey Ray,  I've read that the moly in the cam lubes interfere in the  
long term with zddp and that too much zddp causes oxidation.

I go back to my original claim of just using cheap oil.  If you look  
at a container of Advanced Auto brand oil it says they meet the older  
SJ API standard and not the newer SM class of oils.




On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:36 PM, spook01 wrote:

> You know that if you guys are freaking out about the the zddp, you  
> can put in half a can of cam break-in lube sold at speed  
> shops......just a thought.........
> Best,
> Ray
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Duvall"  
> <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>
>
>> If you really concerned about how much ZDDP should be in your oil, go
>> to http://www.zddplus.com/ and read their arguments.  They discuss
>> all the issues (of course their conclusion all favor them) but the
>> info makes for an interesting read.....
>>
>> I'm not convinced there really is a problem enough to spend a ton of
>> money on "classic car" formulations.  It was interesting to read for
>> a backward rating, they still have to test oil on a flat tappet  
>> engine.
>>
>> That sells me on the idea that the issue is overblown.
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From leylandauto at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 21:20:19 2008
From: leylandauto at yahoo.com (Carl French)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:20:19 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <FFF23954-D653-4D9D-8E51-65DF643B4C1C@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <178915.38545.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So you are saying that the cheap store oil at Advanced Auto is still SJ and
not SM?
 
I cant imagine finding any leftover pre SM oil in a major chain but that would
be great news. I have an Advanced Auto 12 miles from me and they have VR1 for
$3.18/qt which is good enough but store brand is cheaper :-)
 
Carl

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
To: "spook01" <spook01 at comcast.net>, mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hey Ray,  I've read that the moly in the cam lubes interfere in the
long term with zddp and that too much zddp causes oxidation.

I go back to my original claim of just using cheap oil.  If you look
at a container of Advanced Auto brand oil it says they meet the older
SJ API standard and not the newer SM class of oils.




On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:36 PM, spook01 wrote:

> You know that if you guys are freaking out about the the zddp, you
> can put in half a can of cam break-in lube sold at speed
> shops......just a thought.........
> Best,
> Ray
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Duvall"
> <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>
>
>> If you really concerned about how much ZDDP should be in your oil, go
>> to http://www.zddplus.com/ and read their arguments.  They discuss
>> all the issues (of course their conclusion all favor them) but the
>> info makes for an interesting read.....
>>
>> I'm not convinced there really is a problem enough to spend a ton
of
>> money on "classic car" formulations.  It was interesting to
read for
>> a backward rating, they still have to test oil on a flat tappet
>> engine.
>>
>> That sells me on the idea that the issue is overblown.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From leylandauto at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  3 21:20:50 2008
From: leylandauto at yahoo.com (Carl French)
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2008 20:20:50 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <FFF23954-D653-4D9D-8E51-65DF643B4C1C@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <446508.2983.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>

So you are saying that the cheap store oil at Advanced Auto is still SJ and
not SM?
 
I cant imagine finding any leftover pre SM oil in a major chain but that would
be great news. I have an Advanced Auto 12 miles from me and they have VR1 for
$3.18/qt which is good enough but store brand is cheaper :-) (providing it is
also quality oil)
 
Carl

--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
To: "spook01" <spook01 at comcast.net>, mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:00 PM

Hey Ray,  I've read that the moly in the cam lubes interfere in the
long term with zddp and that too much zddp causes oxidation.

I go back to my original claim of just using cheap oil.  If you look
at a container of Advanced Auto brand oil it says they meet the older
SJ API standard and not the newer SM class of oils.




On Aug 3, 2008, at 9:36 PM, spook01 wrote:

> You know that if you guys are freaking out about the the zddp, you
> can put in half a can of cam break-in lube sold at speed
> shops......just a thought.........
> Best,
> Ray
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Duvall"
> <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
> To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2008 4:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
>
>
>> If you really concerned about how much ZDDP should be in your oil, go
>> to http://www.zddplus.com/ and read their arguments.  They discuss
>> all the issues (of course their conclusion all favor them) but the
>> info makes for an interesting read.....
>>
>> I'm not convinced there really is a problem enough to spend a ton
of
>> money on "classic car" formulations.  It was interesting to
read for
>> a backward rating, they still have to test oil on a flat tappet
>> engine.
>>
>> That sells me on the idea that the issue is overblown.
>> _______________________________________________
>>
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From chillmog at sbcglobal.net  Sun Aug  3 21:25:33 2008
From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill)
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 2008 22:25:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <E8D7C8D13EA0430D9997D500BB03BACE@yourpd3mh0abgs>
References: <189606.3237.qm@web51907.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
	<3818656F-F17C-4D1E-81BE-8CEECC09C9E9@sbcglobal.net>
	<E8D7C8D13EA0430D9997D500BB03BACE@yourpd3mh0abgs>
Message-ID: <489676AD.3080905@sbcglobal.net>

Ray,
You aren't really that far off.  From what I see on some other old car 
lists,  zddp use is critical for breaking in new cams on flat tappets. 
But I haven't seen any hard data on the continuing requirement for zddp 
in these engines. 

Charles Hill

spook01 wrote:
> You know that if you guys are freaking out about the the zddp, you can put 
> in half a can of cam break-in lube sold at speed shops......just a 
> thought.........
> Best,
> Ray

From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 01:00:35 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 02:00:35 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
In-Reply-To: <446508.2983.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
References: <446508.2983.qm@web51905.mail.re2.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <193AE6F8-8D5F-4860-B973-53203E927906@sbcglobal.net>

For whoever posted the original question, go get break-in oil  
available everywhere -- Royal Purple is one brand.

Carl,  Not every store stocks every product but try and look around.   
There are all sorts of non-SM in Illinois (farm country) .  Check out  
the nearest Farm and Home store. If you want to drop below a SJ,  
you'll likely have to accept a non-api certified oil because they  
don't test obsolete ratings except that a SH rating is still go when  
coupled with a C.   So a good oil would be rated CF/CF-4/SH  -- that  
would be a high detergent oil.

Remember the oil was rated SB for all the T series cars!   Check tout  
this SA rated oil:  http://www.pinnacleoil.com/specialty-products/ 
empire-oil.html


On Aug 3, 2008, at 10:20 PM, Carl French wrote:

> So you are saying that the cheap store oil at Advanced Auto is  
> still SJ and not SM?
>
> I cant imagine finding any leftover pre SM oil in a major chain but  
> that would be great news. I have an Advanced Auto 12 miles from me  
> and they have VR1 for $3.18/qt which is good enough but store brand  
> is cheaper :-) (providing it is also quality oil)
>
> Carl

From LAF48 at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 04:12:20 2008
From: LAF48 at aol.com (LAF48 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 06:12:20 EDT
Subject: [Mg-t] MG TD oil
Message-ID: <cc5.3b850da9.35c83004@aol.com>

This is not an issue with one of my  Roller Cam Kits.
Len

Abingdon Performance                                          XPAG-XPEG 
Roller Lifter Camshaft Kits


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From hstrachman at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 18:58:32 2008
From: hstrachman at yahoo.com (herb strachman)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 17:58:32 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
Message-ID: <769075.23275.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
 
 I would like to replace the parking light socket on my '53 TD. Is it possible
to replace just the socket or do I need to buy the complete assembly ( Moss
#157-600)?  If so how do I remove the socket from the assembly?
Thanks,
 
Herb

From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Mon Aug  4 20:07:22 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:07:22 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] oil oil oil oil
Message-ID: <002701c8f69f$ff84b7e0$0301a8c0@ME>

holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!   i got 40 e mail responses to my oil question...... thank
you to everyone....    however, i remain slightly confused yet.

so i spoke with the rebuilder machine shop tonight and his suggestion was
Rotella T (NON SYNTHETIC)  15W - 40.

does this sound o.k and does it have the ZDDP as everyone (even the rebuilder)
suggests.

thanks  as always.......
rocky

From hstrachman at yahoo.com  Mon Aug  4 20:17:20 2008
From: hstrachman at yahoo.com (herb strachman)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 19:17:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
Message-ID: <512473.83788.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi,
 I would like to replace  the parking light socket on my '53 TD .  I was
wondering if I can just replace the socket or do I have to buy the complete
assembly (Moss #157-600)?  If I replace the socket how do I remove it from the
assembly?
Thanks,
Herb
 
PS sorry if this was sent twice

From TATERRY at aol.com  Mon Aug  4 21:29:46 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 23:29:46 EDT
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
Message-ID: <ca9.2f48881d.35c9232a@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/4/2008 5:59:10 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
hstrachman at yahoo.com writes:


>  would like to replace the parking light socket on my '53 TD. Is it possible
> to replace just the socket or do I need to buy the complete assembly ( Moss
> #157-600)?  If so how do I remove the socket from the assembly?

Herb, I think you'll need to replace the whole unit.....moss's web site is a 
little confusing in that they seem to indicate that you get two of them for 
$36+.
Best to give them a call.
Terry<BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>Looking for a car that's sporty, fun and fits in your 
budget? Read reviews on AOL Autos.<BR>      
(http://autos.aol.com/cars-BMW-128-2008/expert-review?ncid=aolaut00050000000017 )</HTML>

From duvallcom at sbcglobal.net  Mon Aug  4 21:45:15 2008
From: duvallcom at sbcglobal.net (Mike Duvall)
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:45:15 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
In-Reply-To: <512473.83788.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <512473.83788.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <989E9983-3D0F-4AB1-8F0E-D51DB47DA95D@sbcglobal.net>

I replaced mine with Moss sockets.   When you unbolt the lamps from  
the fender, one of the bolts also hold the socket mount in place.    
Remove the two bolts and the socket slides right out.

Mike

On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:17 PM, herb strachman wrote:

> Hi,
>  I would like to replace  the parking light socket on my '53 TD .   
> I was
> wondering if I can just replace the socket or do I have to buy the  
> complete
> assembly (Moss #157-600)?  If I replace the socket how do I remove  
> it from the
> assembly?
> Thanks,
> Herb
>
> PS sorry if this was sent twice
> _______________________________________________
>
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From mgcharlie at comcast.net  Tue Aug  5 06:31:44 2008
From: mgcharlie at comcast.net (Charlie Baldwin)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 08:31:44 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] oil oil oil oil
In-Reply-To: <002701c8f69f$ff84b7e0$0301a8c0@ME>
References: <002701c8f69f$ff84b7e0$0301a8c0@ME>
Message-ID: <48984830.6090209@comcast.net>

Rocky,
The information that diesel oil still has ZDDP in it is old because they 
also changed the API ratings for diesel oil.  I bought some Rotella in 
the spring of 2007 for my TD, but by then the zinc was gone and they had 
changed over to the new rating.
The problem with all of this ZDDP stuff is that things keep changing.
What you need is 20W-50 oil that is made for something other than road 
going vehicles with catalytic converters, like racing oil or 
agricultural oil.
Tractor Supply doesn't seem to have 20W-50, so that leaves racing oil.  
Some say that synthetics are a problem, so look for mineral oils that 
will fill the bill.  That said the new Castrol Syntec 20W-50 vintage 
automotive oil is a full synthetic.
Some names that come to mind are Valvoline VR-1 and Brad Penn.  Brad 
Penn comes from the former Kendall refinery in Pennsylvania and is 
greenish in color.  Kendall is no longer made from PA crude.
In any case if your engine has had several years running on oil before 
the zinc was removed, there may be no problem.
If it is recently rebuilt, then some attention is a good idea until more 
is known.
Charlie

Krislyn Co.LLC wrote:
> holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!   i got 40 e mail responses to my oil question...... thank
> you to everyone....    however, i remain slightly confused yet.
>
> so i spoke with the rebuilder machine shop tonight and his suggestion was
> Rotella T (NON SYNTHETIC)  15W - 40.
>
> does this sound o.k and does it have the ZDDP as everyone (even the rebuilder)
> suggests.
>
> thanks  as always.......
> rocky
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From kingseim at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  5 06:32:40 2008
From: kingseim at earthlink.net (John Seim)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 05:32:40 -0700
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
In-Reply-To: <769075.23275.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <769075.23275.qm@web32602.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <c0e36a6a552530fdc30ba3ad335cdf29@earthlink.net>

Yes, it is possible to order just the light socket.
They sell them for single contact bulbs (no turn signals), part no. 
157-590,
or for double contact bulbs (cars with turn signals), part no. 157-600.
There is a turn signal wiring kit available, should your car not be 
equipped
with turn signals. Requires the turn signal relay box, 33117.

You have to look for where the excess wiring to the side lamps was laid.
Undo the two bolts holding the side lamp to the fender, raise it off 
the fender
by 3-4 inches, and then you should be able to extract the old bulb 
contact plate
from the chrome housing.

John Seim
Irvine, CA

On Aug 4, 2008, at 5:58 PM, herb strachman wrote:

> Hi,
>
>  I would like to replace the parking light socket on my '53 TD. Is it 
> possible
> to replace just the socket or do I need to buy the complete assembly ( 
> Moss
> #157-600)?  If so how do I remove the socket from the assembly?
> Thanks,
>
> Herb
> _______________________________________________
>
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From hstrachman at yahoo.com  Tue Aug  5 06:43:01 2008
From: hstrachman at yahoo.com (herb strachman)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 05:43:01 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Light Socket
Message-ID: <318626.25784.qm@web32608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

To all,
 I guess I was not quite clear describing my question.  I wanted to know if I
could remove the " pig tail" socket ,i..e. the part which the bulb is secured
too, from someone like NAPA, instead of buying Moss part #157-600
Thanks,
Herb

--- On Mon, 8/4/08, Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

From: Mike Duvall <duvallcom at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Light Socket
To: hstrachman at yahoo.com
Cc: Mg-t at autox.team.net
Date: Monday, August 4, 2008, 11:45 PM

I replaced mine with Moss sockets.   When you unbolt the lamps from
the fender, one of the bolts also hold the socket mount in place.
Remove the two bolts and the socket slides right out.

Mike

On Aug 4, 2008, at 9:17 PM, herb strachman wrote:

> Hi,
>  I would like to replace  the parking light socket on my '53 TD .
> I was
> wondering if I can just replace the socket or do I have to buy the
> complete
> assembly (Moss #157-600)?  If I replace the socket how do I remove
> it from the
> assembly?
> Thanks,
> Herb
>
> PS sorry if this was sent twice
> _______________________________________________
>
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From mgbob at juno.com  Tue Aug  5 06:53:20 2008
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 08:53:20 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] oil oil oil oil
Message-ID: <20080805.085321.1920.2.MGBOB@juno.com>

Rocky,
   I think it's OK. I hope it's OK, as that is what I put in my MGB
engine this spring.  In my TD I have Mobil1, the 2007 receipe.
Bob


 
On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 22:07:22 -0400 "Krislyn Co.LLC"
<krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com> writes:
> holy cow!!!!!!!!!!!   i got 40 e mail responses to my oil 
> question...... thank
> you to everyone....    however, i remain slightly confused yet.
> 
> so i spoke with the rebuilder machine shop tonight and his 
> suggestion was
> Rotella T (NON SYNTHETIC)  15W - 40.
> 
> does this sound o.k and does it have the ZDDP as everyone (even the 
> rebuilder)
> suggests.
> 
> thanks  as always.......
> rocky
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From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  5 19:27:44 2008
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:27:44 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Axle?
Message-ID: <BAY102-W1294E12A731DB5F41FBD3FB77A0@phx.gbl>

I think I broke an axle today.  I had just completed a left turn onto a hill.
At the bottom of the hill just as I started to accelerate, it felt like the
clutch slipped, then nothing.  No power at all.   Looking under the car, I
could see that, when in gear, the driveshaft turns - so power goes into the
differential, but no power comes out.
What do you think?  I'm actually hoping it's an axle and not something more
expensive and involved.
Anyone know what's involved in swapping a broken axle out?


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From chillmog at sbcglobal.net  Tue Aug  5 19:44:00 2008
From: chillmog at sbcglobal.net (Charles Hill)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:44:00 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Axle?
In-Reply-To: <BAY102-W1294E12A731DB5F41FBD3FB77A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-W1294E12A731DB5F41FBD3FB77A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <489901E0.50605@sbcglobal.net>

Mike,
Sure sounds like you broke an axle.  What kind of car and axle? 
Regards,
Charles Hill

Mike Eldred wrote:
> I think I broke an axle today.  I had just completed a left turn onto a hill.
> At the bottom of the hill just as I started to accelerate, it felt like the
> clutch slipped, then nothing.  No power at all.   Looking under the car, I
> could see that, when in gear, the driveshaft turns - so power goes into the
> differential, but no power comes out.
> What do you think?  I'm actually hoping it's an axle and not something more
> expensive and involved.
> Anyone know what's involved in swapping a broken axle out?

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Tue Aug  5 19:44:50 2008
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:44:50 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Axle?
In-Reply-To: <BLU0-SMTP63936AC3211295E69B3E4927A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY102-W1294E12A731DB5F41FBD3FB77A0@phx.gbl>
	<BLU0-SMTP63936AC3211295E69B3E4927A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W33F6952D42506A4D31905EB77A0@phx.gbl>

Sorry Bob, the car is a 1954 TF 1250.  Thanks for the email!> From:
grunau.garage at sympatico.ca> To: redscirocco at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: [Mg-t]
Axle?> Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2008 21:40:26 -0400> > Mike,> You don't mention the
car, TD? TF? are the same.> TA/TB/TC are the same but entirely different
design from TD/TF.> > Problem might bne in the crown wheel and pinion gears
but I doubt it.> > Most likely a busted axle shaft. Assuming its a TD, I
personally would take> the rear axle out of the car, strip it, clean out the
swarf from the busted> axle, check gear backlash and spider gear thrust shims
. Axles break for a> reason, might be something wrong inside?? Worth
checking.> Then buy new axles for both sides, I think Jerry Austin in
California sells> them??> Good luck,> Bob Grunau> >
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From arundell at ghs.com.au  Tue Aug  5 19:52:02 2008
From: arundell at ghs.com.au (Murray Arundell)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:52:02 +1000
Subject: [Mg-t] Axle?
In-Reply-To: <489901E0.50605@sbcglobal.net>
References: <BAY102-W1294E12A731DB5F41FBD3FB77A0@phx.gbl>
	<489901E0.50605@sbcglobal.net>
Message-ID: <E0C2D6E3-E751-43E3-AF4D-97CD6E98304F@ghs.com.au>

Would pretty well bet the farm on a broken axle.  I did the same thing  
in my TC over Easter.....

Murray Arundell

On 06/08/2008, at 11:44 AM, Charles Hill wrote:

> Mike,
> Sure sounds like you broke an axle.  What kind of car and axle?
> Regards,
> Charles Hill
>
> Mike Eldred wrote:
>> I think I broke an axle today.  I had just completed a left turn  
>> onto a hill.
>> At the bottom of the hill just as I started to accelerate, it felt  
>> like the
>> clutch slipped, then nothing.  No power at all.   Looking under the  
>> car, I
>> could see that, when in gear, the driveshaft turns - so power goes  
>> into the
>> differential, but no power comes out.
>> What do you think?  I'm actually hoping it's an axle and not  
>> something more
>> expensive and involved.
>> Anyone know what's involved in swapping a broken axle out?
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From bobmgtd at comcast.net  Wed Aug  6 09:18:31 2008
From: bobmgtd at comcast.net (Bob Donahue)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:18:31 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] What is this British car?
Message-ID: <001401c8f7d7$b016c250$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr>

In the PBS series "Poirot", what is the car Hastings drives? (Google provided
no answers.) BTW, T-series MGs are occasionally spotted in the show.

Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s)
Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net
Cars:       52 MGTD - #17639
               71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361
Member:  NEMGTR #11470
               NAMGBR # 7-3336
               Hoosier MGB Club
               Olde Octagons of Indiana

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Wed Aug  6 09:28:28 2008
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:28:28 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] What is this British car?
In-Reply-To: <001401c8f7d7$b016c250$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr>
References: <001401c8f7d7$b016c250$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W43B234E576BB32A4B47A54B77A0@phx.gbl>

Give this a try:
http://www.imcdb.org/movie_94525-Poirot.html> From: bobmgtd at comcast.net> To:
mgs at autox.team.net> Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 11:18:31 -0400> CC:
mg-t at autox.team.net> Subject: [Mg-t] What is this British car?> > In the PBS
series "Poirot", what is the car Hastings drives? (Google provided> no
answers.) BTW, T-series MGs are occasionally spotted in the show.> > Bob
Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s)> Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net> Cars: 52 MGTD
- #17639> 71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361> Member: NEMGTR #11470> NAMGBR # 7-3336>
Hoosier MGB Club> Olde Octagons of Indiana>
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From eabb at loc.gov  Wed Aug  6 10:11:02 2008
From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo)
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2008 12:11:02 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] What is this British car?
In-Reply-To: <001401c8f7d7$b016c250$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr>
References: <001401c8f7d7$b016c250$6600a8c0@yourmb2swywknr>
Message-ID: <489994D602000074000480A8@ntgwgate.loc.gov>

Lagonda LG45 ??

>>> "Bob Donahue" <bobmgtd at comcast.net> 8/6/2008 11:18 AM >>>
In the PBS series "Poirot", what is the car Hastings drives? (Google provided
no answers.) BTW, T-series MGs are occasionally spotted in the show.

Bob Donahue (Still Stuck in the '50s)
Email - bobmgtd at comcast.net
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               71 MGB - #GHN5UB254361
Member:  NEMGTR #11470
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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Wed Aug  6 17:20:10 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2008 19:20:10 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Update - BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET - Sept. 6 & 7, 2008
Message-ID: <30809213.1218064810691.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

NEW WEBSITE:
        www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

LODGING ALTERNATIVES

Dear British Motorhead,

We have checked out the lodging situation in the Brisbane area for people who
live far enough away to stay overnight for a night or two for a more relaxed
weekend. Carole Burton, the official British meet travel agent, got us a DEAL
at the Radisson Hotel, right in the Brisbane Marina!

The Radisson is a very upscale, business type hotel with gourmet restaurant.
We have special British Car Meet rate of $109 per day, Friday, Saturday or
Sunday. Address, 5000 Sierra Point Parkway, Brisbane, Phone 415-467-4400.
Ask for the British Car Meet rates.

More local North Bay lodging on our website:
             www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html


Best,

Rick Feibusch
310-392-6605
Meet Coordinator
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

NEW WEBSITE:
         www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html


THE BRISBANE MARINA BRITISH CAR MEET * 2008
The Weekend Of Saturday & Sunday * Sept. 6th & 7th

Join your British car friends for a smashing day at the Brisbane Marina at
Sierra Point. Over 300 quirky, classic, and lovable British cars will once
again gather in the Bay Area for our 31st Annual British Car Meet. Don't have
a show car? Don't worry! Daily drivers, vintage racers, street rods and
works-in-progress are as welcome as Concours quality show cars. This is
essentially the old Palo Alto British Meet in a new location. We are also
expecting another great display of automotive oddities provided by the
Arcane Auto Society. Spectators attend and park for free.

SUNDAY SHOW - BRISBANE MARINA - SEPTEMBER 7th

Cars will be placed at 9:00AM and the fun goes on all day. The food will be
handled by the Brisbane Lions Club and the Sierra Point Yacht Club will open
their doors on Sunday for a reasonable, sit-down breakfast  Herb Gibson's
Jazz Orchestra will be back again, set up just outside the Yacht Club. There
is no preregistration. There will be marque awards in over 15 classes and all
entrants will receive a commemorative gift. The registration fee is $25 per
car at the gate.

SATURDAY TOUR - SEPTEMBER 6th

The British Car Meet TOUR TO THE SEA starts at the Brisbane Marina boathouse
(the same place as the Sunday Car Show) and winds through the hills to the
sea. Itbs no-cost option for people who like to drive their cars as well as
show them. We will be sending cars off between 9:00AM and 10:30AM.  A detailed
map will be provided. The tour ends at Cameron's Pub in Half Moon Bay where we
will be kicking tyres and telling tall tales in the car park well into the
afternoon.

DIRECTIONS:

The Brisbane Marina is lacated just east of the Bayshore Freeway
(101) between San Francisco and the SF Airport/Highway 380. Just
take the Brisbane/Sierra Point Exit and follow the signs to the
Marina. Trailer parking will be available on-site.

Call for information:  310-392-6605
e-mail: Brisbane Marina 2008 <rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net>
Website:
http://www.allcarcentral.com/thebritishcarnetwork.html

From rdwilt at pol.net  Mon Aug 11 10:36:59 2008
From: rdwilt at pol.net (Roger Wilt)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:36:59 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] selling the family TD
Message-ID: <000e01c8fbd0$79b985b0$e103a8c0@HPcompaq>

With much chagrin, I am selling my red '51 TD. It has been in the family for
50 years but I am out of storage space, 16yo new driver, wife wants her garage
space back etc. Have it listed at the site http://www.robbcoauctions.com/
where they are having a British Car Auction on August 16th at National Trail
Raceway, east of Columbus, OH. They have it listed as "EC" but it is really a
mechanically sound 20 footer. While all electrics are still working, only some
of the wiring has been replaced. I drive it regularly and have receipts of all
work done.. There are multiple pics on the site.
Contact me off list if you would like more info.

Roger Wilt
Columbus OH
'51 MGTD
'74 MGB

From redscirocco at hotmail.com  Mon Aug 11 18:28:30 2008
From: redscirocco at hotmail.com (Mike Eldred)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 20:28:30 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] selling the family TD
In-Reply-To: <000e01c8fbd0$79b985b0$e103a8c0@HPcompaq>
References: <000e01c8fbd0$79b985b0$e103a8c0@HPcompaq>
Message-ID: <BAY102-W45EE6000F36509A1952B39B7700@phx.gbl>

A beautiful TD, Roger.  Best of luck with it.  (By which I mean I hope you
find a way to withdraw it from the auction and keep it in the family for
another 50 years.)

- Mike Eldred
Wilmington, VT
'54 TF> From: rdwilt at pol.net> To: mgs at autox.team.net; mg-t at autox.team.net>
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 12:36:59 -0400> Subject: [Mg-t] selling the family TD>
> With much chagrin, I am selling my red '51 TD. It has been in the family
for> 50 years but I am out of storage space, 16yo new driver, wife wants her
garage> space back etc. Have it listed at the site
http://www.robbcoauctions.com/> where they are having a British Car Auction on
August 16th at National Trail> Raceway, east of Columbus, OH. They have it
listed as "EC" but it is really a> mechanically sound 20 footer. While all
electrics are still working, only some> of the wiring has been replaced. I
drive it regularly and have receipts of all> work done.. There are multiple
pics on the site.> Contact me off list if you would like more info.> > Roger
Wilt> Columbus OH> '51 MGTD> '74 MGB
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From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 18 19:23:37 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:23:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY - Sunday, October 5, 2008
Message-ID: <20050087.1219109017520.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

29th ANNUAL SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY
Sunday, October 5, 2008

San Diego British Car Day Website at:
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Twenty eight years ago, a hearty band of British car enthusiasts got together
over picnics at a park to view each othersb cars, and enjoy each othersb
friendship. This year, we begin to return to that heritage. Over the past 28
years the event has grown considerably and now attracts participants from all
over California and beyond. We are proud that this event has become one of the
premier British car shows in California. In the past few years, we have
incurred considerable additional expenses relating to, among other things,
permits and insurance. Thus, starting this year,
we have made some changes in keeping with the original spirit of the event.
For instance, there will be no program or raffle at this yearbs show. Also,
due to the increased expenses, we have had to increase our registration fees
by $5.00. We continue to provide a wonderful experience, including a variety
of vendors, Hoggbs Beach BBQ, the very popular Cameron Highlander Bagpipers
and over 400 diverse English cars for your viewing pleasure.

The San Diego British Car Club Council is a California nonprofit mutual
benefit corporation.

OCTOBER 5th EVENT SCHEDULE

7:30 b 10:00 Registration -- Park in your Marque area as directed/signed
10:00 b 3:00 Cars on display
11:30 b 12:00 Judging for best b
Classic Elegantb
 English picnic
12:00 Ballots must be presented to the Club ballot boxes for cars of choice.
Clubs count the ballots and turn in at the Judging boothbb
on
        the hillb
 by the Minis
12:00 b 2:00 Picnic or Lunch at your leisure . . .
         and please pick up your trash!
12:30 Ballots MUST be turned into the Judging booth
2:00 Awards presentation
3:00 to ??? Enjoy the rest of the day . . . exit carefully please

ADDITIONAL INFORMATION

On the above event, or any particular Club or marque in attendance today b
most have Web pages, and can be linked by going to the San Diego British Car
Day Website at: www.sandiegobritishcarday.org or by calling the information
line: 760-746-1458

Pre-Registration Fee: $20.00 per car
Make Check Payable to: BCCC
MAIL BY SEPT. 12th to: San Diego British Car Club Council
P. O. Box 710131
San Diego, CA 92171-0131

QUESTIONS?
Please call San Diego British Car Day
Information Line: 760 - 746 - 1458
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Thank you!

From rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net  Mon Aug 18 19:55:05 2008
From: rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net (rfeibusch1 at earthlink.net)
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 21:55:05 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Mg-t] Correct info - SAN DIEGO BRITISH CAR DAY - Sunday, October 5,
 2008
Message-ID: <23866475.1219110906052.JavaMail.root@elwamui-wigeon.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

Dear Folks,

Sorry but the recent publication of the info about the San Diego British Car
Meet was a confused communication that is totally wrong - Hope you don't mind
deleting the first one I sent and pay attention to this one.

Sorry about the confusion - thanks for your understanding ...

Rick Feibusch
British Car Network
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

29th San Diego British Car Day and Picnic
Admiral Baker Field, San Diego, CA
Sunday, October 5, 2008

San Diego British Car Day Website at:
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Twenty-nine years ago, a hearty band of British car enthusiasts got together
over picnics at a park to view each otherbs cars, and enjoy each otherbs
friendship. This year, we return to that heritage. Over
the past 29 years the event has grown considerably and now attracts
participants from all over California and beyond. We are proud that this event
has become one of the premier British car shows in California. In the past few
years, we have incurred considerable additional expenses relating to, among
other things, forming a corporation, and insurance. Thus, we have made some
changes in keeping with the original spirit of the event. For

instance, there will be no vendors, program or raffle at this yearbs show.
We continue to provide a wonderful experience, the very popular Cameron
Highlander Bagpipers and over 400 diverse English cars for your viewing
pleasure. Have a Great Day!!

Pre-Registration Fee: $20.00 per car
Make Check Payable to: BCCC
MAIL BY SEPT. 12th to: San Diego British Car Club Council
P. O. Box 710131
San Diego, CA 92171-0131

QUESTIONS?
Please call San Diego British Car Day
Information Line: 760 - 746 - 1458
www.sandiegobritishcarday.org

Thank you!

From Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz  Mon Aug 18 22:28:36 2008
From: Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz (Douglas Ormrod)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:28:36 +1200
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains
Message-ID: <D90EBE7D0FC5544994DE4B0D5283EC44051866@NFSVR01.neurological.local>

Bit late with this response - been away. But you should also know that
the sets metal trim fittings on the two types of side curtains are
different - and the Moss ones are a bit mixed up  - or at least the ones
I got were - they sent me three sets before I managed to get a correct
set.

Douglas


-----Original Message-----
From: mg-t-bounces+douglas.ormrod=neurological.org.nz at autox.team.net
[mailto:mg-t-bounces+douglas.ormrod=neurological.org.nz at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Lawrence Karpman
Sent: Saturday, 2 August 2008 2:07 PM
To: Charlie Baldwin; T series list
Subject: Re: [Mg-t] Side curtains

Yes, the 2 bow top side curtains will not fit the 3 bow top properly.

Larry
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To: "T series list" <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 8:24 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] Side curtains


> Is there a difference in 1953 TD side curtains versus the earlier
ones?
> I know that the '53s have the 3 bow top vs. the 2 bow for earlier
cars.
> Thanks.
> Charlie Baldwin
>
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name
> of mgcharlie.vcf]
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From eabb at loc.gov  Tue Aug 19 05:45:26 2008
From: eabb at loc.gov (Eugene D Abbondelo)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 07:45:26 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] Visiting Beaulieu Autojumble
Message-ID: <48AA7A1602000074000497E2@ntgwgate.loc.gov>

I'm planning on going to the Beaulieu Autojumble in England this Sept.  This
would be a first time for me.  If anyone on the list has gone, I would
appreciate any tips or advice for a first time visitor.  I understand there
are close to 2,000 vendors selling all kinds of car parts.  Hoping to find
stuff for my Singers (1949 & 1935)

Gene in Maryland

From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Tue Aug 19 18:49:03 2008
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 19:49:03 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Visiting Beaulieu Autojumble
In-Reply-To: <48AA7A1602000074000497E2@ntgwgate.loc.gov>
References: <48AA7A1602000074000497E2@ntgwgate.loc.gov>
Message-ID: <B5029C4FC66D45A2B56224A6CA5DF6CB@roundabout.com>

A similar query was recently posted on the MGCC Triple-M Register forum. It
was answered by a number of UK members so has a lot of tips usually reserver
for the locals. You may read the whole thread at 
http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2030

Cheers,
Lew Palmer


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[mailto:mg-t-bounces+lpalmer=roundaboutmanor.com at autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of Eugene D Abbondelo
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 6:45 AM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] Visiting Beaulieu Autojumble

I'm planning on going to the Beaulieu Autojumble in England this Sept.  This
would be a first time for me.  If anyone on the list has gone, I would
appreciate any tips or advice for a first time visitor.  I understand there
are close to 2,000 vendors selling all kinds of car parts.  Hoping to find
stuff for my Singers (1949 & 1935)

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From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Wed Aug 20 05:43:37 2008
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:43:37 +0100
Subject: [Mg-t] Visiting Beaulieu Autojumble
References: <48AA7A1602000074000497E2@ntgwgate.loc.gov>
Message-ID: <BF858BB58821461B8A8AC78957A92ACA@cypress>

Eugene,

Take Aspirin, paracetamol, and ibrufen to counter the headaches!

Clive

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To: <mg-t at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 12:45 PM
Subject: [Mg-t] Visiting Beaulieu Autojumble


> I'm planning on going to the Beaulieu Autojumble in England this Sept. 
> This
> would be a first time for me.  If anyone on the list has gone, I would
> appreciate any tips or advice for a first time visitor.  I understand 
> there
> are close to 2,000 vendors selling all kinds of car parts.  Hoping to find
> stuff for my Singers (1949 & 1935)
>
> Gene in Maryland
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From krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com  Wed Aug 20 20:17:41 2008
From: krislynco.llc at roadrunner.com (Krislyn Co.LLC)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:17:41 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] 1952 TD MKII Battery Switch
Message-ID: <000901c90334$17314f20$0201a8c0@ME>

hello folks
looking to install a battery switch in the TD I like the spot right next to my
seat near the tranny tunnel in the floor...not really conspicuous there..and
very easily accessed...  I was thinking of switching the positive side of the
battery which presently has a short braided cable attached from the battery to
the battery box...... always thought it was kind of a wimpy spot for so much
grounded positive power but thats where MG put it as we know.... and they were
electrical geniuses......... so here's the dilemma.....   question...

run a new cable from the positive terminal of the battery to the switch
mounted nicely inside the car (this can all be routed below very neatly) THEN
i was going to come from the switch with a little shorty cable to the
transmission mount bolts at the frame.... seems like a great palce to positive
ground and would eliminate the need to reroute a return cable to the original
wimpy ground up top.....   any thoughts pro or con???  I was thinking of
running a fused lead (the new battery cables have a small accessory wire pig
tail on them already) to my clock so she would stay running even when the
battery switch was off.....  the clock runs perfectly but is annoying to "set
time" start every time i disconnect the battery...would this require me to be
switching the negative lead and if so it would put a crunch in my tranny cable
hook up idea i think ??

i like the switch easily accessible as i am tired of opening and closing the
engine compartment all the time and the car is virtually brand new.. so i want
the switch as hidden yet easy to use as possible.

thanks as always
the rock

From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Thu Aug 21 04:26:55 2008
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau)
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:26:55 -0400
Subject: [Mg-t] 1952 TD MKII Battery Switch
In-Reply-To: <000901c90334$17314f20$0201a8c0@ME>
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP72AF4D5B63CA010600259926B0@phx.gbl>

Howdy Rocky,
On my TC it was easy ( but then we all know a TC is superior to a TD ) . I
installed a master battery cut-off switch with removeable key on the
steering column about where the bracket inside the cockpit supports the
steering column. The switch is out of sight, yet easily accessible from the
drivers seat. The original main negative power wire enters the cockpit on a
TC so easy to route the wire to the switch, then to the starter using
original MG wire holes in the kick plate.
 I'm sure a similar hook-up could be made on the TD using either the
positive ground or negative lead to the starter switch. .
Turning the switch off and removing the key gives me a bit of security when
the TC is parked .
Best regards from Canada,
Bob Grunau

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Of Krislyn Co.LLC
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2008 10:18 PM
To: mg-t at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-t] 1952 TD MKII Battery Switch


hello folks
looking to install a battery switch in the TD I like the spot right next to
my
seat near the tranny tunnel in the floor...not really conspicuous there..and
very easily accessed...  I was thinking of switching the positive side of
the
battery which presently has a short braided cable attached from the battery
to
the battery box...... always thought it was kind of a wimpy spot for so much
grounded positive power but thats where MG put it as we know.... and they
were
electrical geniuses......... so here's the dilemma.....   question...

run a new cable from the positive terminal of the battery to the switch
mounted nicely inside the car (this can all be routed below very neatly)
THEN
i was going to come from the switch with a little shorty cable to the
transmission mount bolts at the frame.... seems like a great palce to
positive
ground and would eliminate the need to reroute a return cable to the
original
wimpy ground up top.....   any thoughts pro or con???  I was thinking of
running a fused lead (the new battery cables have a small accessory wire pig
tail on them already) to my clock so she would stay running even when the
battery switch was off.....  the clock runs perfectly but is annoying to
"set
time" start every time i disconnect the battery...would this require me to
be
switching the negative lead and if so it would put a crunch in my tranny
cable
hook up idea i think ??

i like the switch easily accessible as i am tired of opening and closing the
engine compartment all the time and the car is virtually brand new.. so i
want
the switch as hidden yet easy to use as possible.

thanks as always
the rock
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