From imoz at columbus.rr.com  Wed Dec  5 20:00:44 2007
From: imoz at columbus.rr.com (Dan)
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:00:44 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Side Lamp Medallions (red buttons)
Message-ID: <20071206030046.GYWT25689.hrndva-omta05.mail.rr.com@ownerb5b734fc5>

Listers, 

 

This is a question of authenticity for my '54 TF.  

 

I have always thought the red medallion on the chrome side lamps (running
lights) bore the inscription "King of the Road" and nothing else.  

 

I recently purchased a pair on eBay advertised as "Genuine NOS".  They came,
and they look quite plastic, even with teeny tabs that look like over fill
from a plastic mold.  They also bear the inscription, "The MG Car Company".


 

Are these OK for TD?  Or, are they bad repros from Moss?  

 

Thanks for any info.  

 

Dan Johnson

54 TF

From mgbob at juno.com  Thu Dec  6 09:50:33 2007
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:50:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Side Lamp Medallions (red buttons)
Message-ID: <20071206.115034.2996.2.MGBOB@juno.com>

Dan,
   The letters the original red lens of my TD lamps say   King of  the
Road,  in the outer ring around the lion rampant that is in the center
circle.  They are reasonably crisp and legible on one lamp, and getting
faint on the other. 
   A call to Moss would determine if the style you have is what they
offer these days.
   Were the ones sold to you in a box that appeared to be original?
Bob

On Wed, 5 Dec 2007 22:00:44 -0500 "Dan" <imoz at columbus.rr.com> writes:
> Listers,  
> This is a question of authenticity for my '54 TF.  > 
> I have always thought the red medallion on the chrome side lamps 
> (running lights) bore the inscription "King of the Road" and nothing
else.  
> I recently purchased a pair on eBay advertised as "Genuine NOS".  
> They came, and they look quite plastic, even with teeny tabs that look
like 
> over fill from a plastic mold.  They also bear the inscription, "The MG
Car 
> Company".> 
> Are these OK for TD?  Or, are they bad repros from Moss?  > 
> Thanks for any info.   
> Dan Johnson
> 
> 54 TF

From imoz at columbus.rr.com  Thu Dec  6 17:30:26 2007
From: imoz at columbus.rr.com (Dan)
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:30:26 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Side Lamp Medallions (red buttons)
In-Reply-To: <20071206.115034.2996.2.MGBOB@juno.com>
Message-ID: <20071207003029.RFJ29610.hrndva-omta02.mail.rr.com@ownerb5b734fc5>

Listers, 

Thank you for the replies and information contained in them.  

I sure caused some confusion.  I made a mistake in my description of these
medallions.  I tried to send another email clarifying the description of the
red medallions, but I don't think it got through.  I am sorry.  

Here is some clarification:  

Upon double - check, I saw that they did NOT have "The MG Car Company" on
them.  They only have "King of the Road" and the lion rampant that is in the
center circle.  I am not sure what caused me to have the impression they did
have that on them.  I can't believe I made such an error, but my mind plays
funny tricks on me sometimes (or maybe it's my eyes).  My further apology.  

At any rate, I do have an original medallion for my car, and it has a much
more murky and glassy appearance, with no hard edges on the letter or the
image.  The picture and the letters sort of melt onto the surface of it so
that the edges flow and blend in.  

The ones I got are sharp cut and plastic looking.  In addition, there are
two small ragged tabs on the underside that look as if they had been twisted
off an injection molded bar that probably had others attached to it as well.
The lion and the letters are very crisp with much more defined edges than my
original.  

I thought I remembered a TSO article or a website that made this distinction
between the original and the Moss repro.  

Please don't misunderstand -  I have nothing against Moss, I am glad they
offer these and I have nothing against cars that have them installed.  My
concern was that the ebay ad clearly showed a proper Lucas box in the
picture (which was described in the text as not included - so I do not have
that to refer to).  The text also said "Genuine Lucas NOS".  

When I got them they did not look right to me, but I have got some info that
they used 2 different types of plastics in this era.  

Maybe this is getting a little too "nit picky", but I am fascinated with the
lore of originality, so it is for curiosity as much as anything else.  

From mgbob at juno.com  Fri Dec  7 06:49:23 2007
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 08:49:23 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Side Lamp Medallions (red buttons)
Message-ID: <20071207.090214.3112.1.MGBOB@juno.com>

 Hi Dan,
   The smoother, rounded appearance of the old ones may be from age and
owner effort. 
   Pop bought this car new, and I recall as a kid trying to polish the
old lens to make them look as sharp as the repros of the time.  In doing
so, I'm sure I smoothed off the crisp letters that I do recall on
originals back then. I must have been a polishing fiend as a youngster,
because I polished off the paint on bonnet and fenders.  MG identified
the paint as Cellulose Enamel. Pop was a loyal customer of Dupont #7
polish, "safe for all enamels".   Problem was that English "cellulose
enamel" is American lacquer.  Good ol' #7 was way too abrasive. We
polished through the paint into the primer as we tried to get out the
dark areas, necessitating a repaint in 1961.
Bob

On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 19:30:26 -0500 "Dan" <imoz at columbus.rr.com> writes:
> Listers, 
> 
> Thank you for the replies and information contained in them.  
> 
> I sure caused some confusion.  I made a mistake in my description of 

From shop at justbrits.com  Fri Dec 14 19:00:20 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 20:00:20 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay
Message-ID: <093301c83ebe$3ffc8040$6501a8c0@actualshop>

Sent: Friday, December 14, 2007 9:31 AM
Subject: [Mgs] Good Laugh on Ebay


Check out this guys description of a Unipart oil filter for sale on eBay:

http://tinyurl.com/29tser

From shop at justbrits.com  Sun Dec 16 18:50:19 2007
From: shop at justbrits.com (shop at justbrits.com)
Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 19:50:19 -0600
Subject: [Mg-t] cool tool find
Message-ID: <058e01c8404f$2e695c30$6501a8c0@actualshop>

Thought I would share with you gents.  Found by a NON-mechainic Spridgeteer!!

http://www.chaseembacktools.com/

I ordered<G>!!

Ed

From mgbob at juno.com  Fri Dec 21 08:24:54 2007
From: mgbob at juno.com (Bob Howard)
Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2007 10:24:54 -0500
Subject: [Mg-t] Fw: [Mgs] Needed - crankshaft for '52 MGTD MK II
Message-ID: <20071221.102455.1096.6.MGBOB@juno.com>

  Forwarding to the T-list.
Bob



--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Mowog1 at aol.com
To: mgs at autox.team.net
Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2007 22:11:48 EST
Subject: [Mgs] Needed - crankshaft for '52 MGTD MK II
Message-ID: <cb8.20ac8076.349c88f4 at aol.com>
 
I am looking for a crankshaft for a stock 1952 mgtd mark II for an  
enthusiast who contacted me this evening. 
 
He doesn't care if the shaft  has to be reworked as long as it is not 
cracked. 
 
Thanks in  advance
 
rick ingram

From Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz  Sat Dec 29 00:01:34 2007
From: Douglas.Ormrod at neurological.org.nz (Douglas Ormrod)
Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 20:01:34 +1300
Subject: [Mg-t] PA & PB Manifolds
Message-ID: <0888574CFACE3D4CB359CDCF21585B502D8240@NFSVR01.neurological.local>

Giday T people



Been very quite on this list lately - guess every restored T type is
running sweetly and every restoration proceeding smoothly.



Anyway I thought I would pass on this piece of non T type info that
appeared in the January edition of The Automobile. It would seem that
Barry Walker "the long established pre-war MG parts supplier" is
underway with the manufacture of 1934-36 PA and PB engine exhaust
manifolds. 220 pounds each or 185 pounds if 20 orders can be secured.
Telephone xx44 1789 400 181 - or 01789 400 181 if you already reside in
the damp isles. So if you need one give him a call.



Cheers



Douglas in New Zealand