From taterry at aol.com Wed Oct 20 17:17:39 2010 From: taterry at aol.com (taterry at aol.com) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 19:17:39 -0400 Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale Message-ID: <8CD3EC41F9F6080-21EC-129@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com> This car was the subject on a new channel of Dish network this morning...the guy also has a PB Airline. Vehicle Comments This is a very rare factory alloy-bodied, Supercharged 1934 MG ND Magnette Two-Seater Roadster with documented history. One of just 24 fitted with an alloy body.THE ND was the most successful MG racing models of its era, most notably winning the 1934 tourist trophy. This ND Magnette was immaculately finished in black over polished aluminum. This vehicle was featured in the September 2009 edition of MG Enthusiast, as well as being pictured and recognized in numerous books, notably Joseph Wherry's MG: Sports Car Supreme. Much of the vehicles ownership history is documented beginning with its original keeper, Bernard Clifton of Wimbledon, who acquired the car in September 1934 via MG agents Jarvis & Sons. The next year Clifton sold the ND to Thorold G. Jones of Surrey. Copies of letters from the MG works in Abingdon with both these owners are included, as is a copy of the original delivery slip and warranty card. The trail picks up again in the 1960's, when it was reportedly in the hands of J.C. Waddams of Solihull. Next, the car was sold at the estate auction of George C. Waddams in 1975, (misidentified in the catalog as a KN), whose collection included several other automobiles and motorcycles, including an early Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost, a 4 1/2 Litre Bentley and two Sunbeam motorcycles. The file includes the Bill of Sale from auctioneers Grimley & Son. Acquired by vintage racer Miles Fenton of Vancouver, BC, who became an enthusiastic competitor and active participant in the historic racing scene, the ND was notably featured as the cover car for the 7th Annual Monterey Historics event program after an admirable showing in the 1979 event. The ND, no 6, finished 6th overall against big displacement machinery such as 4 1/2 Litre Bentleys, a Bugatti Type 57 and a Maserati 8CL. In 1987, the car was sold to prewar racing enthusiast Peter Fino of Illinois, who kept meticulous records, including parts invoices, race prep specs, and full description of competition features such as NE-spec camshaft and valvetrain, lightweight pistons, a ported, polished and flowed cylinder head, a lightend flywheel and more. Records are included indicating that Fino achieved an impressive result at the 1997 Elkart Lake Vintage Festival at Road America, where the ND finished First in class and Second overall. The next and most recent owner of the ND was Dick McClure who acquired the car in 2003 and ran it in the 2006 California Mille. McClure did some further research into the car's history, adding copies of the factory records obtained from the MG Car Club. This is an amazing looking prewar event car with race history and competition prepared but retaining remarkable originality. The Brooklands windscreens, cycle fenders and K3 racing bucket seats are augmented by its Marshall supercharger and racing radiator cap, as well as the delightful addition of period-correct Rudge wire wheels. This Magnette represents the limited-production, race-ready cars that were available directly from MG during the 1930's. As described by MG Enthusiast, the ND Magnette spelled the end to niche car manufacturing at MG and to the construction of MGs for sale to the public as dedicated competition cars. Abingdon's next sports car, the TA of 1936, would be aimed at a mass market and there would be no fire-breathing special factory editions for the favored few. The N-Type was the last of its kind, for better or for worse, and the ND was the last of the last. MG ND #NA 0484 is ready to be vintage raced, rallied ,or Mille Miglia entrant. http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=261327 t From p.green at mgk3.co.uk Wed Oct 20 17:35:13 2010 From: p.green at mgk3.co.uk (Peter Green) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 00:35:13 +0100 Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale References: <8CD3EC41F9F6080-21EC-129@webmail-m026.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <6AFE907C89EC4B64AD2F2AC61EFA486B@magnette> Which history book tells us that an ND won the 1934 TT? I might be biased, but I think that the K3 was the 'most successful MG racing model of its era', it certainly was not the ND. Peter Green ----- Original Message ----- From: taterry at aol.com To: mg-mmm at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale This car was the subject on a new channel of Dish network this morning...the guy also has a PB Airline. Vehicle Comments This is a very rare factory alloy-bodied, Supercharged 1934 MG ND Magnette Two-Seater Roadster with documented history. One of just 24 fitted with an alloy body.THE ND was the most successful MG racing models of its era, most notably winning the 1934 tourist trophy. This ND Magnette was immaculately finished in black over polished aluminum. This vehicle was featured in the September 2009 edition of MG Enthusiast, as well as being pictured and recognized in numerous books, notably Joseph Wherry's MG: Sports Car Supreme. Much of the vehicles ownership history is documented beginning with its original keeper, Bernard Clifton of Wimbledon, who acquired the car in September 1934 via MG agents Jarvis & Sons. The next year Clifton sold the ND to Thorold G. Jones of Surrey. Copies of letters from the MG works in Abingdon with both these owners are included, as is a copy of the original delivery slip and warranty card. The trail picks up again in the 1960's, when it was reportedly in the hands of J.C. Waddams of Solihull. Next, the car was sold at the estate auction of George C. Waddams in 1975, (misidentified in the catalog as a KN), whose collection included several other automobiles and motorcycles, including an early Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost, a 4 1/2 Litre Bentley and two Sunbeam motorcycles. The file includes the Bill of Sale from auctioneers Grimley & Son. Acquired by vintage racer Miles Fenton of Vancouver, BC, who became an enthusiastic competitor and active participant in the historic racing scene, the ND was notably featured as the cover car for the 7th Annual Monterey Historics event program after an admirable showing in the 1979 event. The ND, no 6, finished 6th overall against big displacement machinery such as 4 1/2 Litre Bentleys, a Bugatti Type 57 and a Maserati 8CL. In 1987, the car was sold to prewar racing enthusiast Peter Fino of Illinois, who kept meticulous records, including parts invoices, race prep specs, and full description of competition features such as NE-spec camshaft and valvetrain, lightweight pistons, a ported, polished and flowed cylinder head, a lightend flywheel and more. Records are included indicating that Fino achieved an impressive result at the 1997 Elkart Lake Vintage Festival at Road America, where the ND finished First in class and Second overall. The next and most recent owner of the ND was Dick McClure who acquired the car in 2003 and ran it in the 2006 California Mille. McClure did some further research into the car's history, adding copies of the factory records obtained from the MG Car Club. This is an amazing looking prewar event car with race history and competition prepared but retaining remarkable originality. The Brooklands windscreens, cycle fenders and K3 racing bucket seats are augmented by its Marshall supercharger and racing radiator cap, as well as the delightful addition of period-correct Rudge wire wheels. This Magnette represents the limited-production, race-ready cars that were available directly from MG during the 1930's. As described by MG Enthusiast, the ND Magnette spelled the end to niche car manufacturing at MG and to the construction of MGs for sale to the public as dedicated competition cars. Abingdon's next sports car, the TA of 1936, would be aimed at a mass market and there would be no fire-breathing special factory editions for the favored few. The N-Type was the last of its kind, for better or for worse, and the ND was the last of the last. MG ND #NA 0484 is ready to be vintage raced, rallied ,or Mille Miglia entrant. http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=261327 t _______________________________________________ Mg-mmm at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Suggested annual donation $11.47 Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-mmm/p.green at mgk3.co.uk From spook01 at comcast.net Wed Oct 20 20:19:30 2010 From: spook01 at comcast.net (=?utf-8?B?c3Bvb2swMUBjb21jYXN0Lm5ldA==?=) Date: Wed, 20 Oct 2010 21:19:30 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] =?utf-8?q?KD_race_car_for_sale?= Message-ID: <20101021021839.6F382187660@autox.team.net> This car, wearing number 6, was on 'chasing classic cars' last night. It failed at auction in new Mexico, and he stated he wanted 100k to 150k for it. Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone ----- Reply message ----- From: "Peter Green" Date: Wed, Oct 20, 2010 18:35 Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale To: , Which history book tells us that an ND won the 1934 TT? I might be biased, but I think that the K3 was the 'most successful MG racing model of its era', it certainly was not the ND. Peter Green ----- Original Message ----- From: taterry at aol.com To: mg-mmm at autox.team.net Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 12:17 AM Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale This car was the subject on a new channel of Dish network this morning...the guy also has a PB Airline. Vehicle Comments This is a very rare factory alloy-bodied, Supercharged 1934 MG ND Magnette Two-Seater Roadster with documented history. One of just 24 fitted with an alloy body.THE ND was the most successful MG racing models of its era, most notably winning the 1934 tourist trophy. This ND Magnette was immaculately finished in black over polished aluminum. This vehicle was featured in the September 2009 edition of MG Enthusiast, as well as being pictured and recognized in numerous books, notably Joseph Wherry's MG: Sports Car Supreme. Much of the vehicles ownership history is documented beginning with its original keeper, Bernard Clifton of Wimbledon, who acquired the car in September 1934 via MG agents Jarvis & Sons. The next year Clifton sold the ND to Thorold G. Jones of Surrey. Copies of letters from the MG works in Abingdon with both these owners are included, as is a copy of the original delivery slip and warranty card. The trail picks up again in the 1960's, when it was reportedly in the hands of J.C. Waddams of Solihull. Next, the car was sold at the estate auction of George C. Waddams in 1975, (misidentified in the catalog as a KN), whose collection included several other automobiles and motorcycles, including an early Rolls-Royce Silver Ghost, a 4 1/2 Litre Bentley and two Sunbeam motorcycles. The file includes the Bill of Sale from auctioneers Grimley & Son. Acquired by vintage racer Miles Fenton of Vancouver, BC, who became an enthusiastic competitor and active participant in the historic racing scene, the ND was notably featured as the cover car for the 7th Annual Monterey Historics event program after an admirable showing in the 1979 event. The ND, no 6, finished 6th overall against big displacement machinery such as 4 1/2 Litre Bentleys, a Bugatti Type 57 and a Maserati 8CL. In 1987, the car was sold to prewar racing enthusiast Peter Fino of Illinois, who kept meticulous records, including parts invoices, race prep specs, and full description of competition features such as NE-spec camshaft and valvetrain, lightweight pistons, a ported, polished and flowed cylinder head, a lightend flywheel and more. Records are included indicating that Fino achieved an impressive result at the 1997 Elkart Lake Vintage Festival at Road America, where the ND finished First in class and Second overall. The next and most recent owner of the ND was Dick McClure who acquired the car in 2003 and ran it in the 2006 California Mille. McClure did some further research into the car's history, adding copies of the factory records obtained from the MG Car From pthelander at earthlink.net Thu Oct 21 09:11:24 2010 From: pthelander at earthlink.net (Pete Thelander) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:11:24 -0700 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: The ex-Miles Fenton ND Message-ID: <410-220101042115112446@earthlink.net> Terry, et al, Here is the email I sent to Mike Jacobsen last week about the up-coming show. I'm not sure you will get the attached photos. I think attachements may not be allowed in a group message. If they do not come through, and contact me off group and I can sent them. Pete pthelander at earthlink.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Pete Thelander To: Michael Jacobsen Sent: 10/17/2010 11:44:36 AM Subject: The ex-Miles Fenton ND Mike, I don't know if you get the HD Theater channel. They have a show about Chasing Classic Cars, hosted by Wayne Carini. This past week they have been promoting a new episode to air Tuesday at 9pm. It features the ex-Fenton ND and the BMC competition dept traveling workshop/bus. Both vehicles were at the Monterey vendor's village this year. photos attached. It was green and alloy when Miles had it. It was black & alloy when Peter Fino had it in the Chicago area. Now it looks like Mr Carini has freshened it up with a new coat of red & alloy. Just thought you'd be interested. Pete pthelander at earthlink.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150113.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150115.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150110.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150112.JPG] From pthelander at earthlink.net Thu Oct 21 09:48:09 2010 From: pthelander at earthlink.net (Pete Thelander) Date: Thu, 21 Oct 2010 08:48:09 -0700 Subject: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale Message-ID: <410-220101042115489796@earthlink.net> Terry, et al, Here is the reply I sent out last evening. I did not get it back so I am not sure it actually got distributed. Therefore, I am sending again. I'm not sure you will get the attached photos. I think attachments may not be allowed in a group message. If they do not come through, and contact me off group and I can sent them. Pete pthelander at earthlink.net > [Original Message] > From: Pete Thelander > To: taterry at aol.com > Date: 10/20/2010 6:02:21 PM > Subject: RE: [Mg-mmm] KD race car for sale > > I was aware of this car being available several months ago. I corresponded with the sales manager at that time to advise him that it was the NE not the ND that won the 1934 Tourist trophy. The car was featured on the HD Theater Channel's program "Chasing Classic Cars", hosted by Wayne Carini of F40 Motor Cars last night. I have watched the show for the last two years, and Mr Carini seems to be serious and would want to have things right. But apparently, they did not deem it necessary to correct their description. > > The car was taken to the Scottsdale, AZ auction in January where it was a NO SALE at $80 or $85k...I'm never quite sure whether the last figure I heard was the actual final bid or the next figure they were asking for. It is on their website at $125k. It subsequently showed up at the Monterey Reunion in August re-done in red & polished alloy, along with the BMC Technical Service Bus also featured on the show. > > Early in the show Mr Carini is seen with a PA Airline Coupe which mentions is for his own collection. Both the Airline and the ND were last known to be owned by Dick McClure of Stockton, CA. > > Pete Thelander > pthelander at earthlink.net > > PS: If you are looking for the show, the title of the episode is "The British Are Coming". > F40 Motorsport's web site: http://www.f40.com/inventorymanager.php?action=view&Id=261327 > > > >> > > > Mg-mmm at autox.team.net > > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Suggested annual donation $11.47 > > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/mg-mmm/pthelander at earthlink.net [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150115.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150110.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150112.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of P8150113.JPG] From taterry at aol.com Sun Oct 31 15:16:34 2010 From: taterry at aol.com (taterry at aol.com) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2010 18:16:34 -0400 Subject: [Mg-mmm] Wanted J2 front axle Message-ID: <8CD476069BE26AF-11E0-8D11@webmail-m006.sysops.aol.com> A friend is looking for one....if you have one for sale, please let me know.. Thanks Terry