From burnett at wistar.org Tue Feb 3 10:48:31 2009 From: burnett at wistar.org (Roger M. Burnett) Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 18:48:31 +0100 Subject: [Mg-mmm] Meilenwerk Message-ID: On a recent visit to Germany I discovered a fascinating organization for classic cars. Meilenwerk (translates as Miles Factory, but the flavor is lost -- Meile is an obsolete German unit of about five miles) is a new organization devoted to what Germans call "oldtimers". It finds interesting historically protected buildings, connected to transportation, and renovate them to house a comprehensive array of services. The first, in Berlin, was set up in 2003 in what was Europe's largest streetcar depot when it was built in 1899. The Dusseldorf Meilenwerk (2006) is in a former locomotive roundhouse (1930). A third is under construction in the former Stuttgart airport buildings (1925) and opens in June. If you are in any of these cities, I recommend paying Meilenwerk a visit. We visited the Dussseldorf Meilenwerk. Its renovation is remarkable and takes full advantage of the semicircular layout of the former roundhouse. The central area is the main display area for the cars, with a good restaurant in the middle. The cars are all superb examples of their kind, mainly post-war sportscars, each with a good description. An Invicta was among the few vintage cars on display, as were several MG T-types. Although the sections belong to different dealers, this is only apparent from the map and one wanders around freely. There are no salesmen so the effect is more like a museum (free) than a showroom. Surrounding the cars, a two-tiered ring of stacked cages, like those used for city parking, is reminiscent of the building's former purpose in housing private cars for individuals who want safe, dry and warm garages. This feature is a stroke of genius as it adds more cars to the overall display. The stars here were three enormous 1920's sports cars in a row (Mercedes, Alfa Romeo and Bentley). A wide circular passageway separates the garages from an outer ring of workshops. These too contained interesting vehicles, including a (maybe too) pristine Type 35 Bugatti. Stairways lead to the passageway roof from which one can inspect the cars garaged in the upper tier and also look down into the workshops. The whole effect is one of light (despite the very rainy day) and quality in details (the roof is an inflated double membrane) and this too adds enormously to the experience. The building is also used for events and to support car club activities. We were all (many different ages and interests) very impressed, as would anyone who enjoys fine automobiles and architecture. The Meilenwerk website http://www.meilenwerk.de/ is only in German but it has many pictures. If you click on the box for each city, then on the box "Gebdude" (building), you will find views of the buildings before they were renovated. Roger From coles at colesnurseries.com Wed Feb 4 16:48:02 2009 From: coles at colesnurseries.com (Dan and Jenny Fest (Coles Nurseries Inc)) Date: Wed, 4 Feb 2009 18:48:02 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] P type front axle Message-ID: I am trying to fit the front axles on my P type. The hubs are my old ones but are still in good shape. All the inners (bearings, cones, etc.) are new. At one time I got some help from peolpe on line but can't seem to find the old emails. I know there's shim involved. Does anyone have any advice ?? Also, when correctly done, how freely should the hub turn ?? Thanks, Dan From spook01 at comcast.net Tue Feb 17 22:06:21 2009 From: spook01 at comcast.net (spook01) Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:06:21 -0600 Subject: [Mg-mmm] M type for sale Message-ID: <5B3AB25C7F104A3690635E4B6CAB6F38@yourpd3mh0abgs> I am selling M type 2M-762. I had planned to build a replica High Speed Service Van, but that has apparently fallen through. This is an earlier car than the Ford museum car now in Connecticut, and is known to the Triple M Registry, with records (unusual). It is a project, but very complete with many new parts, NOS parts, and powder coated frame. Cable brakes. P type beckons. Contact me off list if interested. Here is a short summary: Summary of Information Held on 2M 0762 By the Triple-M Register Chassis number 2M 0762 Manufactured on 8/1/30 Original engine fitted MG 512A Original body style and colour scheme 2 seat sports, red. Supplied ex factory to City Motor Co. Ltd., Cardiff and thence to Parsons of Cardiff On not recorded Sold to George A. Brown On 29/1/30 Original UK Road registration UH 7436 (UH is a correct letter sequence for Cardiff B Licence District Other owners known J.D.A. Donaldson (UK, Sanderstead) no date, Mr. Verbiesen Robert L. Zwart 3/95-pre-'05 Ray McCrary '05-present Best, Ray From bill707 at earthlink.net Mon Feb 23 19:34:24 2009 From: bill707 at earthlink.net (Bill Tantau) Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 18:34:24 -0800 (GMT-08:00) Subject: [Mg-mmm] NAMMMR goes West! Message-ID: <32559452.1235442864897.JavaMail.root@elwamui-little.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Dears... Remember - our 2009 focus event will be at Squaw Valley, CA where we'll join up with the GOF West for their annual bash June 22-26. So any and all of you within a reasonable distance from the high Sierra, please make it a point to be there! Go to http://www.gofwest.com/ for sign up details and let me know please that you WILL be there!! Best and thanks, Bill Tantau NAMMMR From Boballey747 at aol.com Tue Feb 24 20:21:51 2009 From: Boballey747 at aol.com (Boballey747 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2009 22:21:51 EST Subject: [Mg-mmm] Part needed Message-ID: One of my headlight rings is beyond repair and hopefully someone out there has a spare. They are LBD 140's with the almost flat rim. Thanks Bob **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 28 08:40:21 2009 From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:40:21 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books Message-ID: Hi Guys, As far as I know, and I think I'm right, following are the dates of issue for the MMM Yearbooks. Can anybody please confirm these dates? 1970 to 1985 Annually 1986/1987 ( there was no 1987 issue ) 1988/1989 1989 to 2007 Annually. I THINK I have filled my collection as above EXCEPT for the 1970 first issue. So if anybody has an extra copy of the 1970 MMM yearbook I'd like to complete the set. At this stage, a photo copy would be a good substitute for an original 1970 book if someone can send me a copy. Maybe scan it and send by email?? Thanks and best regards from Canada. Bob Grunau J-3017 PA-0531 NA-0686 From coles at colesnurseries.com Sat Feb 28 16:18:30 2009 From: coles at colesnurseries.com (Dan and Jenny Fest (Coles Nurseries Inc)) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:18:30 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] Siverstone/Stoneleigh 2010/ 2011 ?? Message-ID: I understand 2011 will be a big year for the register. I was wondering if anyone is interested in taking a trip to the UK to attend one of the MG shows there. Could be 2010 or 2011. Perhaps some members with UK show experience could comment on the logistics for such a trip. Is anyone interested ?? Any recommendations ??? Let me know, Dan PS anyone have any P type tranmission parts they want to sell ?? From mgtom at zoominternet.net Sat Feb 28 16:45:45 2009 From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (Tom Metcalf) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 18:45:45 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] Siverstone/Stoneleigh 2010/ 2011 ?? References: Message-ID: <399542D1BEBE4F0FA359249CA23D9B5F@tom> Dan, Yes, 2011 is the 50th anniversary for the UK Triple-M Register. We've tossed the idea of having a NAMMMR contingent shipping cars over to join our UK brethern for a week of festivities (perhaps even including a sip of hop pop) leading up to MG Silverstone (or whatever may get planned), but, unfortunately it will likely conflict with our own MG2011 in Reno - June 12-18. Personally, I'd love to have our NB done and join our UK friends for their 2011 celebration, but we'll have to see what transpires. It may be easier if the UK group decides to connect at one end of MG Silverstone in 2011 as PERHAPS the scheduling may be able to be done further in advance since the F1 people are moving out next year. Silverstone is a very easy venue to naviagte and I suggest going every year. There are 50-100 MMM cars rain or shine. One more thing about scheduling...... next year our Fabulous Bibulous Gallimaufry will be held in conjunction with GOF Central on Lake Erie, Huron Ohio at Sawmill Creek Lodge. Dates are July 1-2-3. tommm in COLD Ohio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan and Jenny Fest (Coles Nurseries Inc)" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: [Mg-mmm] Siverstone/Stoneleigh 2010/ 2011 ?? >I understand 2011 will be a big year for the register. I was wondering if > anyone is interested in taking a trip to the UK to attend one of the MG > shows > there. Could be 2010 or 2011. Perhaps some members with UK show > experience > could comment on the logistics for such a trip. Is anyone interested ?? > Any > recommendations ??? > Let me know, > Dan > PS anyone have any P type tranmission parts they want to sell ?? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-mmm at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-mmm > > You are subscribed as mgtom at zoominternet.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca Sat Feb 28 18:15:06 2009 From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:15:06 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi Terry et All, I have received several responses to my request for the 1970 MMM Yearbook. Looking at my 1971 and 1972 yearbooks, these were not the latest and greatest in typed copy. I wonder if instead of several of us copying poor originals ( paper and type quality, not content ) if the NAMMM Register might consider having these three earliest MMM Yearbooks ( 1970, 1971, 1972 ) re-typed on computer and made available by email? We could hire a good typist ( certainly not me and my 2 fingers ) and reproduce the text in modern legible format. There were very few photos in these three earliest yearbooks except for the covers, which could be scanned. What you think? Tommm Metcalf must be flush with money early in the year and this might be a worthwhile project. Or those wishing early copies kick in 5 bucks an issue to pay for typing?? I can contribute originals of 1971 and 1972 yearbooks. The 1971/72 Yearbooks were 8 1/4" x 13" wide, folded in half. Later yearbooks are much better quality paper and type so easier to get good copies from the originals if anyone wants copies. Any comments? Bob Grunau ps: Dan Fest, sorry can't respond to your email, either work or home, bounces back to me. I THINK I have filled my collection as above EXCEPT for the 1970 first issue. So if anybody has an extra copy of the 1970 MMM yearbook I'd like to complete the set. At this stage, a photo copy would be a good substitute for an original 1970 book if someone can send me a copy. Maybe scan it and send by email?? Bob, I think you've got the sequence right and I have a complete set except 1970 also, so if you get an offer of one xeroxed, let me know cause I'd like a copy too.... Terry You are correct of the dates. I too have nearly a complete set except for the 1970 and 1971 issues . I have always thought that I have a complete set except for the last few years (must rectify that), in that I was able to make photocopies of the ones for which I have no original (such as 1971 which I thought was the earliest). If you do come up with any earlier ones please let me know! I have '70 I could photo copy but no scanner. I could use '71 if you have. You are correct about the dates of the issues. The 1970 issue was 42 pages, with all but 4 pages or so of typed text. Too much to scan and email. I have a Xerox copy which I would be glad to copy for you. My copy is 8-1/2 X 11, whereas the original was, I believe, 10 X 14-1/2 folded in half. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From pmullen at telus.net Sat Feb 28 18:22:12 2009 From: pmullen at telus.net (Patrick Mullen) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 17:22:12 -0800 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books References: Message-ID: Sounds a great idea to me. Please demand my Money Order asap. .......Pat *************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Grunau" To: "MG-MMM" ; Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books > > Hi Terry et All, > I have received several responses to my request for the 1970 MMM Yearbook. > Looking at my 1971 and 1972 yearbooks, these were not the latest and > greatest in typed copy. I wonder if instead of several of us copying poor > originals ( paper and type quality, not content ) if the NAMMM Register > might consider having these three earliest MMM Yearbooks ( 1970, 1971, > 1972 ) re-typed on computer and made available by email? We could hire a > good typist ( certainly not me and my 2 fingers ) and reproduce the text > in > modern legible format. There were very few photos in these three earliest > yearbooks except for the covers, which could be scanned. > What you think? Tommm Metcalf must be flush with money early in the year > and > this might be a worthwhile project. Or those wishing early copies kick in > 5 > bucks an issue to pay for typing?? > I can contribute originals of 1971 and 1972 yearbooks. The 1971/72 > Yearbooks were 8 1/4" x 13" wide, folded in half. > > Later yearbooks are much better quality paper and type so easier to get > good > copies from the originals if anyone wants copies. > > Any comments? > Bob Grunau > ps: Dan Fest, sorry can't respond to your email, either work or home, > bounces back to me. > > I THINK I have filled my collection as above EXCEPT for the 1970 first > issue. So if anybody has an extra copy of the 1970 MMM yearbook I'd > like to > complete the set. At this stage, a photo copy would be a good > substitute > for an original 1970 book if someone can send me a copy. Maybe scan it > and > send by email?? > > Bob, I think you've got the sequence right and I have a complete set > except 1970 also, so if you get an offer of one xeroxed, let me know cause > I'd like a copy too.... Terry > You are correct of the dates. I too have nearly a complete set except for > the 1970 and 1971 issues . > > I have always thought that I have a complete set except for the last few > years (must rectify that), in that I was able to make photocopies of the > ones for which I have no original (such as 1971 which I thought was the > earliest). > > If you do come up with any earlier ones please let me know! > > I have '70 I could photo copy but no scanner. I could use '71 if you > have. > > You are correct about the dates of the issues. The 1970 issue was 42 > pages, with all but 4 pages or so of typed text. Too much to scan and > email. > I have a Xerox copy which I would be glad to copy for you. My copy is > 8-1/2 > X 11, whereas the original was, I believe, 10 X 14-1/2 folded in half. > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt > p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% > 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-mmm at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-mmm > > You are subscribed as pmullen at telus.net > > http://www.team.net/archive From coles at colesnurseries.com Sat Feb 28 19:04:07 2009 From: coles at colesnurseries.com (Dan and Jenny Fest (Coles Nurseries Inc)) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 21:04:07 -0500 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books References: Message-ID: <8816780B59D74D23AD005C73AE02CE77@Fest> Count me in to. I do have a copy of the '70 yearbook but need '71 and a better copy of '72. Thanks, Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Grunau" To: "MG-MMM" ; Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books > Hi Terry et All, > I have received several responses to my request for the 1970 MMM Yearbook. > Looking at my 1971 and 1972 yearbooks, these were not the latest and > greatest in typed copy. I wonder if instead of several of us copying poor > originals ( paper and type quality, not content ) if the NAMMM Register > might consider having these three earliest MMM Yearbooks ( 1970, 1971, > 1972 ) re-typed on computer and made available by email? We could hire a > good typist ( certainly not me and my 2 fingers ) and reproduce the text > in > modern legible format. There were very few photos in these three earliest > yearbooks except for the covers, which could be scanned. > What you think? Tommm Metcalf must be flush with money early in the year > and > this might be a worthwhile project. Or those wishing early copies kick in > 5 > bucks an issue to pay for typing?? > I can contribute originals of 1971 and 1972 yearbooks. The 1971/72 > Yearbooks were 8 1/4" x 13" wide, folded in half. > > Later yearbooks are much better quality paper and type so easier to get > good > copies from the originals if anyone wants copies. > > Any comments? > Bob Grunau > ps: Dan Fest, sorry can't respond to your email, either work or home, > bounces back to me. > > I THINK I have filled my collection as above EXCEPT for the 1970 first > issue. So if anybody has an extra copy of the 1970 MMM yearbook I'd > like to > complete the set. At this stage, a photo copy would be a good > substitute > for an original 1970 book if someone can send me a copy. Maybe scan it > and > send by email?? > > Bob, I think you've got the sequence right and I have a complete set > except 1970 also, so if you get an offer of one xeroxed, let me know cause > I'd like a copy too.... Terry > You are correct of the dates. I too have nearly a complete set except for > the 1970 and 1971 issues . > > I have always thought that I have a complete set except for the last few > years (must rectify that), in that I was able to make photocopies of the > ones for which I have no original (such as 1971 which I thought was the > earliest). > > If you do come up with any earlier ones please let me know! > > I have '70 I could photo copy but no scanner. I could use '71 if you > have. > > You are correct about the dates of the issues. The 1970 issue was 42 > pages, with all but 4 pages or so of typed text. Too much to scan and > email. > I have a Xerox copy which I would be glad to copy for you. My copy is > 8-1/2 > X 11, whereas the original was, I believe, 10 X 14-1/2 folded in half. > > > > > ************** > A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt > p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% > 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Mg-mmm at autox.team.net > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-mmm > > You are subscribed as coles at colesnurseries.com > > http://www.team.net/archive From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com Sat Feb 28 21:18:17 2009 From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 22:18:17 -0600 Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I have a scanner and OCR software which would make the transcription much easier, but lack the 1970 and 1971 yearbooks. I would volunteer to copy and transcribe if some kind soul wound entrust the loan of copies - poor or otherwise. Cheers, Lew Palmer -----Original Message----- From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Grunau Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 7:15 PM To: MG-MMM; TATERRY at aol.com Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books Hi Terry et All, I have received several responses to my request for the 1970 MMM Yearbook. Looking at my 1971 and 1972 yearbooks, these were not the latest and greatest in typed copy. I wonder if instead of several of us copying poor originals ( paper and type quality, not content ) if the NAMMM Register might consider having these three earliest MMM Yearbooks ( 1970, 1971, 1972 ) re-typed on computer and made available by email? We could hire a good typist ( certainly not me and my 2 fingers ) and reproduce the text in modern legible format. There were very few photos in these three earliest yearbooks except for the covers, which could be scanned. What you think? Tommm Metcalf must be flush with money early in the year and this might be a worthwhile project. Or those wishing early copies kick in 5 bucks an issue to pay for typing?? I can contribute originals of 1971 and 1972 yearbooks. The 1971/72 Yearbooks were 8 1/4" x 13" wide, folded in half. Later yearbooks are much better quality paper and type so easier to get good copies from the originals if anyone wants copies. Any comments? Bob Grunau ps: Dan Fest, sorry can't respond to your email, either work or home, bounces back to me. I THINK I have filled my collection as above EXCEPT for the 1970 first issue. So if anybody has an extra copy of the 1970 MMM yearbook I'd like to complete the set. At this stage, a photo copy would be a good substitute for an original 1970 book if someone can send me a copy. Maybe scan it and send by email?? Bob, I think you've got the sequence right and I have a complete set except 1970 also, so if you get an offer of one xeroxed, let me know cause I'd like a copy too.... Terry You are correct of the dates. I too have nearly a complete set except for the 1970 and 1971 issues . I have always thought that I have a complete set except for the last few years (must rectify that), in that I was able to make photocopies of the ones for which I have no original (such as 1971 which I thought was the earliest). If you do come up with any earlier ones please let me know! I have '70 I could photo copy but no scanner. I could use '71 if you have. You are correct about the dates of the issues. The 1970 issue was 42 pages, with all but 4 pages or so of typed text. Too much to scan and email. I have a Xerox copy which I would be glad to copy for you. My copy is 8-1/2 X 11, whereas the original was, I believe, 10 X 14-1/2 folded in half. ************** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=htt p:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID% 3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) Mg-mmm at autox.team.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/mg-mmm You are subscribed as lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com http://www.team.net/archive From TATERRY at aol.com Sat Feb 28 21:40:03 2009 From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 23:40:03 EST Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books Message-ID: In a message dated 2/28/2009 8:14:09 PM Pacific Standard Time, lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com writes: > I have a scanner and OCR software which would make the transcription much > easier, but lack the 1970 and 1971 yearbooks. I would volunteer to copy and > transcribe if some kind soul wound entrust the loan of copies - poor or > otherwise. > I have 71 and 72 as photocopies thanks to Larry Long, I'm willing to send these to Lew for the project.... 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A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26h mpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62) From Emgeeguy at aol.com Sat Feb 28 22:49:04 2009 From: Emgeeguy at aol.com (Emgeeguy at aol.com) Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 00:49:04 EST Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: Year Books Message-ID: No need to send anything to Lew. I have copies of all. I have a scanner and good OCR software and will be glad to do it. As soon as you say "GO", I will start the activity. Tell me which ones to do. Cheers--Larry **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)