[Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686

Bob Grunau grunau.garage at sympatico.ca
Sun Apr 26 06:59:42 MDT 2009


OK, thanks. I would have thought that was an easy thing for Copper Gaskets
to supply it annealed. I'll ask.
Bobc
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Terry Sanders [mailto:taterry at pacbell.net]
  Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 PM
  To: MG-MMM; Bob Grunau
  Subject: RE: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686


        I can tell you from bitter personal experience that the solid copper
head gasket does not come annealed!
        Terry

        --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Bob Grunau <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca> wrote:

          From: Bob Grunau <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca>
          Subject: RE: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686
          To: taterry at pacbell.net, "MG-MMM" <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
          Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 5:41 PM


          Hi Terry,
          Thanks re colour ( notice I spell it correctly ). Personally I
like the red/maroon. This car will be a driver, not show car .

          Does the copper head gasket not come annealed from headgasket
.com??,

          I will lighten the flywheel, way more than already done. I can't
send photos to MMM but if somebody wants a photo of my PA light flywheel (
same as NA ), email me. A LOT of weight taken off. Much more than shown in
the MMM yearbook.

          Freight from the UK was combined with a wire wheel order I had
coming, so hard to say as the block and crank came on the same shipment.
However I bought 11 wire wheels and the block and crank and total sea
freight was $537.00 Cdn$, about $430.00 US$. Everything came on one pallet.

          In Canada there is no duty on antique car parts intended for cars
over 30 years old, so no duty.

          Best regards, Bob Grunau


                  Bob, engine color is a huge controversy, has always been.
Per Barry Walker (does any know more about MMM cars than he? ;-)  sez in his
catalog that 4 seaters had green engines, 2 seaters had red/maroon.  Lew
Palmer ran a survey a few years ago and a surprising number of engines were
reported green.  I painted my green since besides Barry's catalog, I had
some nice stuff left over from my SA engine....I have the formula if you
need it.

                  I used solid copper but didn't anneal it properly first
time around. You use oxy/accel to get it hot enough.  They are available
from Los Angeles: http://www.headgasket.com/

                  I had my flywheel lightened as per one tip in one of the
yearbooks.....nothing to compare to but the original was very heavy and
maybe why so many original cranks broke/cracked.

                  Just for my info.  how much was the freight from the UK
and did you get stuck with some duty?

                  Terry

                  --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Bob Grunau
<grunau.garage at sympatico.ca> wrote:

                    From: Bob Grunau <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca>
                    Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686
                    To: "MG-MMM" <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
                    Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 1:09 PM


Hi  Guys,
Just a short NA-0686 engine update. I have received the new block and
Phoenix crankshaft from Peter Green in the UK. They look very good. I
delivered them to the machine shop guy John this morning, he liked the new
parts. John does specialty engine work on weekends and the NA engine is next
on the list after he completes an MGA twin cam engine.   I hope the rebuild
of the engine goes smoothly with these new parts.

Questions:
1-, what is the proper engine colour ( supplier and colour code please ) for
the 1935 MG NA 4 seat open tourer and what type of paint to be used to stop
it flaking off the new engine. Old engine colour is now MG TC/TD/TF maroon
colour. This looks OK to me but thought somebody might know the
"correct"
colour.

2-Should I go for a solid copper head gasket or use the original type
copper/asbestos? If solid copper, who is a good supplier, hopefully in North
America.

3-What is the thinking on flywheel lightening. The NA flywheel has been
lightened a bit but not nearly as much as my PA engine flywheel. Is lighter
better?? I can send photos of the light PA flywheel to those interested.

Hopefully NA-0686 will be on the road this summer.
Bob
Bob Grunau
150 Pinewood Trail
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada, L5G-2L1
905-274-4136
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