From Boballey747 at aol.com  Thu Dec  4 22:34:12 2008
From: Boballey747 at aol.com (Boballey747 at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 00:34:12 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] MMM Part needed
Message-ID: <c92.3c0e9b99.366a1754@aol.com>

If anyone out there has an extra fulcrum bolt for the brake shoe I would  
much appreciate buying it from you. I seemed to have safely hidden one of mine.  
I believe they are the same on all 12" backing plates. I need one for  my NB.
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From TATERRY at aol.com  Fri Dec  5 09:13:49 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:13:49 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
Message-ID: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>

Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on display 
in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away since 
1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?

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From Kellmg at aol.com  Fri Dec  5 09:37:32 2008
From: Kellmg at aol.com (Kellmg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:37:32 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
Message-ID: <d34.405cc63a.366ab2cc@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/5/2008 10:14:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
TATERRY at aol.com writes:

Mike  Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on display 
in  the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away  
since 
1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its  been?

Terry in Oakland


Hi Terry,
 
K3027 was the car that was "owned" by Bill Hill in Chicago. From what I  
gather he had a workshop there in the early days. Don't quote me but I think it  
might have been disputed ownership. It was purchased about two years ago form a 
 person in Philly.
 
It looks like it's in good company. This is page 2.
 
 
_http://www.carcollector.com/index.php/columns/on-the-road/181-the-simone-foun
dation-museum.html?start=1_ 
(http://www.carcollector.com/index.php/columns/on-the-road/181-the-simone-foundation-museum.html?start=1) 
 
or,
 
 
_Click  here: The Simeone Foundation Museum_ 
(http://www.carcollector.com/index.php/columns/on-the-road/181-the-simone-foundation-museum.html?start=1)  
 
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From Kellmg at aol.com  Fri Dec  5 09:46:44 2008
From: Kellmg at aol.com (Kellmg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:46:44 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K0327 link
Message-ID: <cc1.4ae7b84a.366ab4f4@aol.com>

Sorry, if you have trouble with the link I gave in the preceding  post.
 
Try this one by copy and paste.
 
 
http://www.carcollector.com/index.php/columns/on-the-road/181-the-simone-foundation-museum.html?start=1
 
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 09:46:53 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:46:53 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <039501c956f9$1444d2f0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Terry, this is the myserious "Bill Hill" K3. Bill Hill was actually a 
machinist near Chicago who had done some work on the car. I got a fone call 
a few years ago from a guy in Chicago who owned a Midget. He asked me if I 
wanted to buy an original magnesium Marshall s/c from a K3, plus the bonnet 
panels. I ended up buying both and passed the blower on to K3015.

Six months later I got a call from Chris Leydon asking if I knew the 
whereabouts of a blower and bonnet set from a K3. Couldn't believe it. This 
was the original stuff from K3027 that I had. Fred Simeone had purchased the 
elusive K3 from a resto shop in Canada, where it had been for decades under 
MMM radar. Bill Hill either owned or worked at the Chicago machine shop and 
when it closed some fellow found this stuff buried that I bought. Not sure 
how his name became associated with K3027 but he was never the owner. Fred 
has supposedly restored the car but I have not heard from him for a few 
years. He's a brain surgeon in Phila and he's had other cars at Amelia but 
I've never actually seen him there.

tommmmmmmmmmm


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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:13 AM
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027


> Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on 
> display
> in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away 
> since
> 1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?
>
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 09:51:40 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:51:40 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K0327 link
References: <cc1.4ae7b84a.366ab4f4@aol.com>
Message-ID: <03af01c956f9$bef36f40$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

BK,

Thanks for sending that museum info. WOW!!!

tommmmm

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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K0327 link


> Sorry, if you have trouble with the link I gave in the preceding  post.
>
> Try this one by copy and paste.
>
>
> http://www.carcollector.com/index.php/columns/on-the-road/181-the-simone-foundation-museum.html?start=1
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From Kellmg at aol.com  Fri Dec  5 09:57:45 2008
From: Kellmg at aol.com (Kellmg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:57:45 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
Message-ID: <d1e.3a690ac4.366ab789@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/5/2008 10:47:28 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
mgtom at zoominternet.net writes:

Fred  Simeone had purchased the 
elusive K3 from a resto shop in Canada, where it  had been for decades under 
MMM radar.


Hi Tom,
 
Are you certain that the car was under MMM radar? Let's hear more of the  
intriguing mystery. 
Make it novel, mate!
 
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From nowlanc at comcast.net  Fri Dec  5 10:03:45 2008
From: nowlanc at comcast.net (Chris Nowlan)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:03:45 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
	<039501c956f9$1444d2f0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>
Message-ID: <063f01c956fb$6eeaee40$6401a8c0@cjn>

Guys,

    I knew Bill Hill from my years with Jerry Goguen and he actually stayed 
at my home for a few days.   He was certainly an odd duck and very 
secretive.  Bill Hill had the car going well back into the 60's and always 
claimed that he owned it but apparently it was actually owned by two 
Canadian brothers who had left the car with Bill for restoration.( they must 
have left their brains elsewhere during all those years!)  Chaz Jones told 
me about  Fred Simione's acquisition of the car a few years ago and he knew 
more of the details which now escapes me.  K3 027 also had the original 
makers plate from Jerry Goguen's K3 028 nailed on to the bottom of one of 
the floorboards.  I tried for years to get  this out of Bill but  never 
succeeded.  I don't know the details but the plate has now been reunited 
with K3-028.  I never saw the car but Jerry Goguen did see it in the mid 
70's.

    Cheers,

Chris Nowlan
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To: <TATERRY at aol.com>; <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K3027


> Terry, this is the myserious "Bill Hill" K3. Bill Hill was actually a 
> machinist near Chicago who had done some work on the car. I got a fone 
> call a few years ago from a guy in Chicago who owned a Midget. He asked me 
> if I wanted to buy an original magnesium Marshall s/c from a K3, plus the 
> bonnet panels. I ended up buying both and passed the blower on to K3015.
>
> Six months later I got a call from Chris Leydon asking if I knew the 
> whereabouts of a blower and bonnet set from a K3. Couldn't believe it. 
> This was the original stuff from K3027 that I had. Fred Simeone had 
> purchased the elusive K3 from a resto shop in Canada, where it had been 
> for decades under MMM radar. Bill Hill either owned or worked at the 
> Chicago machine shop and when it closed some fellow found this stuff 
> buried that I bought. Not sure how his name became associated with K3027 
> but he was never the owner. Fred has supposedly restored the car but I 
> have not heard from him for a few years. He's a brain surgeon in Phila and 
> he's had other cars at Amelia but I've never actually seen him there.
>
> tommmmmmmmmmm
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <TATERRY at aol.com>
> To: <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 11:13 AM
> Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
>
>
>> Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on 
>> display
>> in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away 
>> since
>> 1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?
>>
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Fri Dec  5 10:37:59 2008
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 11:37:59 -0600
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
In-Reply-To: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C17E83D48F8849F7836C6242F75824F8@roundabout.com>

Yes, I do. The car is owned by Dr. Fred Simeone from Philadelphis. It had
been squirreled away by Bill Hill (apparently a self-proclaimed hermit in
Chicago) some years ago. It was purchased by Fred a few years ago and was
consigned to a restoration shop in New Richmond, Wisconsin (only 20 miles
from me). I was promised a visit by the shop owner, but he never made good
on his promise before it was shipped back to Phila.

Cheers,
Lew Palmer
Registrar, NAMMMR

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Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027

Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on display 
in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away
since 
1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?

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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 10:41:33 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:41:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <d1e.3a690ac4.366ab789@aol.com>
Message-ID: <03ce01c95700$b6e61bc0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

It will be in my upcoming book titled "Novel by Tommm"

tommm

> Hi Tom,
>
> Are you certain that the car was under MMM radar? Let's hear more of the
> intriguing mystery.
> Make it novel, mate!
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 10:41:33 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:41:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <d1e.3a690ac4.366ab789@aol.com>
Message-ID: <03d101c95700$db6f97f0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

It will be in my upcoming book titled "Novel by Tommm"

tommm

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>
> Are you certain that the car was under MMM radar? Let's hear more of the
> intriguing mystery.
> Make it novel, mate!
>
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From Kellmg at aol.com  Fri Dec  5 10:54:21 2008
From: Kellmg at aol.com (Kellmg at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:54:21 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
Message-ID: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>

In a message dated 12/5/2008 11:42:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
mgtom at zoominternet.net writes:

Brian,

It will be in my upcoming book titled "Novel by  Tommm"

tommm


Tom,
 
I said make it novel, not repetitive.
 
I just got four copies of your message.
 
When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the  
two side panels. Were they aluminum?
 
Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
 
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 13:39:59 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
References: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <041701c95719$a4a33c90$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner. However, 
these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed cycle 
multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of the 
stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there had 
been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped there 
on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it was 
the complete set.

Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and looked 
decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.

I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with 
heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had 
recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They are 
who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they got to 
work on it.

When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down to WI 
and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his other 
cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than 
pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them 
displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa line 
up at Amelia several years ago.

tommm the novelist

> When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the
> two side panels. Were they aluminum?
>
> Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
>
> Brian.
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 13:39:59 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
References: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <042101c95719$c914c3f0$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner. However, 
these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed cycle 
multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of the 
stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there had 
been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped there 
on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it was 
the complete set.

Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and looked 
decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.

I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with 
heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had 
recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They are 
who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they got to 
work on it.

When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down to WI 
and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his other 
cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than 
pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them 
displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa line 
up at Amelia several years ago.

tommm the novelist

> When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the
> two side panels. Were they aluminum?
>
> Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
>
> Brian.
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 13:39:59 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
References: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <042201c95719$efdce580$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner. However, 
these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed cycle 
multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of the 
stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there had 
been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped there 
on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it was 
the complete set.

Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and looked 
decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.

I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with 
heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had 
recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They are 
who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they got to 
work on it.

When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down to WI 
and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his other 
cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than 
pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them 
displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa line 
up at Amelia several years ago.

tommm the novelist

> When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the
> two side panels. Were they aluminum?
>
> Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
>
> Brian.
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 13:39:59 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:39:59 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
References: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>
Message-ID: <042301c9571a$167c7070$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Brian,

The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner. However, 
these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed cycle 
multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of the 
stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there had 
been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped there 
on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it was 
the complete set.

Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and looked 
decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.

I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with 
heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had 
recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They are 
who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they got to 
work on it.

When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down to WI 
and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his other 
cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than 
pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them 
displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa line 
up at Amelia several years ago.

tommm the novelist

> When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the
> two side panels. Were they aluminum?
>
> Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
>
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From jay at ukhistoric.com  Fri Dec  5 13:46:07 2008
From: jay at ukhistoric.com (jay at ukhistoric.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 15:46:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
In-Reply-To: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
Message-ID: <50878.72.94.124.82.1228509967.squirrel@204.14.90.12>

Dr. Simeone's K3 was at the Radnor Concours this year.  Here are links to
2 pics:
http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9735.jpg
http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9747.jpg

Jason.
'35 P Special.


> Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on display
> in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away
since
> 1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?

From p.green at mgk3.co.uk  Fri Dec  5 14:33:18 2008
From: p.green at mgk3.co.uk (Peter Green)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:33:18 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
References: <c20.4a1763fb.366ac4cd@aol.com>
	<041701c95719$a4a33c90$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>
Message-ID: <00F608C03FC74D73A421148D971F76E7@magnette>

Tom,

To the best of my knowledge K3 bonnet hinges were not stamped - I have never
seen one which was.

Peter.


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: TOM METCALF
  To: Kellmg at aol.com ; mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K 3027


  Brian,

  The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner. However,
  these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed cycle
  multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of the
  stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there had
  been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped there
  on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it was
  the complete set.

  Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and looked
  decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.

  I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with
  heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had
  recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They are
  who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they got to
  work on it.

  When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down to WI
  and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his other
  cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than
  pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them
  displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa line
  up at Amelia several years ago.

  tommm the novelist

  > When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or the
  > two side panels. Were they aluminum?
  >
  > Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
  >
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From p.green at mgk3.co.uk  Fri Dec  5 14:45:50 2008
From: p.green at mgk3.co.uk (Peter Green)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 21:45:50 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com>
	<50878.72.94.124.82.1228509967.squirrel@204.14.90.12>
Message-ID: <FE8F3CD42A074987A5F35E32F3480CC8@magnette>

Here is a link to another picture of K3027 on the Historical page of the MGCC
Triple-M Register website
http://www.triple-mregister.org/picturearchive2.asp. Select K3 on the dropdown
menu then click on the thumbnail of K3027, sorry but I can not give a direct
link to the picture.

Peter

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: jay at ukhistoric.com
  To: mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K3027


  Dr. Simeone's K3 was at the Radnor Concours this year.  Here are links to
  2 pics:
  http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9735.jpg
  http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9747.jpg

  Jason.
  '35 P Special.


  > Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on
display
  > in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away
  since
  > 1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Fri Dec  5 14:58:50 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 16:58:50 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com><50878.72.94.124.82.1228509967.squirrel@204.14.90.12>
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Thanks Peter - the guy who owns two....

tommm


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To: <jay at ukhistoric.com>; <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 4:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K3027


> Here is a link to another picture of K3027 on the Historical page of the 
> MGCC
> Triple-M Register website
> http://www.triple-mregister.org/picturearchive2.asp. Select K3 on the 
> dropdown
> menu then click on the thumbnail of K3027, sorry but I can not give a 
> direct
> link to the picture.
>
> Peter
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: jay at ukhistoric.com
>  To: mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>  Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:46 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K3027
>
>
>  Dr. Simeone's K3 was at the Radnor Concours this year.  Here are links to
>  2 pics:
>  http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9735.jpg
>  http://jurban.ukhistoric.com/images/rad08_9747.jpg
>
>  Jason.
>  '35 P Special.
>
>
>  > Mike Hawke reports in the Sept. Safety Fast that this car is now on
> display
>  > in the Simeone Foundation Museum, Philadelphia.  Apparently hidden away
>  since
>  > 1953.....does anyone know who owns it and where its been?
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From pthelander at earthlink.net  Fri Dec  5 23:00:20 2008
From: pthelander at earthlink.net (Pete Thelander)
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 22:00:20 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
Message-ID: <380-2200812666020151@earthlink.net>

Just as a matter of info, I have never found any chassis # stamp on the NE
bonnet, either.  I wonder if they did that for the competition cars.

Pete  
pthelander at earthlink.net



> [Original Message]
> From: Peter Green <p.green at mgk3.co.uk>
> To: TOM METCALF <mgtom at zoominternet.net>; <Kellmg at aol.com>;
<mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
> Date: 12/5/2008 1:33:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
>
> Tom,
>
> To the best of my knowledge K3 bonnet hinges were not stamped - I have
never
> seen one which was.
>
> Peter.
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: TOM METCALF
>   To: Kellmg at aol.com ; mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>   Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 8:39 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K 3027
>
>
>   Brian,
>
>   The car was supposedly 100% original according to the new owner.
However,
>   these panels had clearly been through the smashed/repaired/resprayed
cycle
>   multiple times. In addition to the metallic green paint, the front of
the
>   stainless center hinge had been torn out so I could not tell if there
had
>   been a serial number stamped. I still do not know if K3's were stamped
there
>   on the hinge like our other MMM cars. I forget how many panels but it
was
>   the complete set.
>
>   Now that I think back the fugly green paint actually cleaned up and
looked
>   decent with lots of rubbing involved. The louvers were not nice.
>
>   I think the fellows in Wisconsin were in on the deal. As I recall (with
>   heavy CRS disease involved), the car had been in CN for decades but had
>   recently been moved to WI so they could do some restoration work. They
are
>   who led Leydon & Simeone to Canada to find the car but in return they
got to
>   work on it.
>
>   When I talked to Simeone he indicated he was having the car moved down
to WI
>   and told me about the arrangements. He also told me about some of his
other
>   cars and how he likes them better restored to an "as raced" more so than
>   pristeen. Or, even better, not restored at all. Nice way to have them
>   displayed in that museum. I believe he had an Alfa at the fabulous Alfa
line
>   up at Amelia several years ago.
>
>   tommm the novelist
>
>   > When you said you got the panels of K3027, was it the four of them or
the
>   > two side panels. Were they aluminum?
>   >
>   > Curious; was the car located / purchased in the states or Canada?
>   >
>   > Brian.
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From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Sat Dec  6 11:25:08 2008
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2008 18:25:08 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] K3027 -  1970s photo of M Type found
References: <cbb.2d791ad0.366aad3d@aol.com><50878.72.94.124.82.1228509967.squirrel@204.14.90.12>
	<FE8F3CD42A074987A5F35E32F3480CC8@magnette>
Message-ID: <7EC0BEA541F541D48B8089B9F6D608D5@cypress>

Thanks Peter,

I'd not looked here at the MMM photo section for
many moons, but looking in the M type photos I
came across one I'd never seen before of  me
driving my M Type back in the 1970s.

It was quite quick then and would lap Silverstone
at well over 70mph average.  Here I appear to be
closely observing a somewhat slower ant which I
am overtaking!

http://www.triple-mregister.org/retropictures/pics/sendbinary.asp?path=C:\Domains\triple-mregister.org\wwwroot\retropictures\pics\141108005L.jpg&width=750

I parted with LJ 2251 many years ago now, and
I last heard of the car being in Italy.

Clive Sherriff

Oxford UK
=====================================
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Green" <p.green at mgk3.co.uk>
To: <jay at ukhistoric.com>; <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2008 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] K3027


> Here is a link to another picture of K3027 on the Historical page of the 
> MGCC
> Triple-M Register website
> http://www.triple-mregister.org/picturearchive2.asp. Select K3 on the 
> dropdown
> menu then click on the thumbnail of K3027, sorry but I can not give a 
> direct
> link to the picture.
>
> Peter 

From MGJack at aol.com  Sun Dec  7 10:42:48 2008
From: MGJack at aol.com (MGJack at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 7 Dec 2008 12:42:48 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] mgjack@aol.com
Message-ID: <bca.3c1a8002.366d6518@aol.com>

Cheers,....Jack
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From DB35PA at aol.com  Thu Dec 11 10:08:25 2008
From: DB35PA at aol.com (DB35PA at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:08:25 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
Message-ID: <c9f.41986c82.3672a309@aol.com>

Does anyone know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy French  driver 
whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at a  regional 
MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Thu Dec 11 10:20:45 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:20:45 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
References: <c9f.41986c82.3672a309@aol.com>
Message-ID: <007c01c95bb4$ce764c70$6400a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

Donnnnnn,

It's called "Rendezvous" and is available many places online. Bought one for 
son #1 Kyle several years ago. http://www.rendezvousdvd.com/

Bummer to find this out, but it was actually filmed with the gimballed 
camera attached to a Mercedes 450SEL and later dubbed with Ferrari music.

tommmmmmm


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Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:08 PM
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD


> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy French 
> driver
> whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at a 
> regional
> MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
> Thanks
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From lawrie at britcars.com  Thu Dec 11 10:24:16 2008
From: lawrie at britcars.com (=?iso-8859-1?Q?lawrie?=)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 09:24:16 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] =?iso-8859-1?q?looking_for_a_film/DVD?=
Message-ID: <20081211172416.6050.qmail@s417.sureserver.com>

Don,

The film is titled "Rendezvous (1983)" directed by Claude Lelouch. There is currently a copy for sale on Amazon.com

Lawrie


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>  Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
>  Sent: 11 Dec '08 09:08
>  
>  Does anyone know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy French  driver
>  whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at a  regional
>  MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
>  Thanks
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From bill707 at earthlink.net  Thu Dec 11 10:54:52 2008
From: bill707 at earthlink.net (Bill Tantau)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:54:52 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
Message-ID: <22940888.1229018092349.JavaMail.root@elwamui-ovcar.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

   It could have been a model a or austin7 - what ever, but it's a HOOT!!

   bt

     -----Original Message-----
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     To: DB35PA at aol.com, mg-mmm at autox.team.net
     Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
     Donnnnnn,
     It's  called  "Rendezvous"  and  is  available  many places online.
     Bought one for
     son #1 Kyle several years ago. http://www.rendezvousdvd.com/
     Bummer  to  find  this  out,  but  it  was actually filmed with the
     gimballed
     camera  attached to a Mercedes 450SEL and later dubbed with Ferrari
     music.
     tommmmmmm
     ----- Original Message -----
     From:
     To:
     Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:08 PM
     Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
     >  Does  anyone  know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy
     French
     > driver
     >  whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at
     a
     > regional
     > MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
     > Thanks
     > Don B.
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From DB35PA at aol.com  Thu Dec 11 11:28:59 2008
From: DB35PA at aol.com (DB35PA at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:28:59 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] film search
Message-ID: <c71.39a645f1.3672b5eb@aol.com>

Wow! Thanks to all of you (9 so far) for the info on the film! 
I hope you all have a Happy Holiday season!
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From hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net  Thu Dec 11 11:41:33 2008
From: hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net (Mike Hughes)
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2008 13:41:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
References: <c9f.41986c82.3672a309@aol.com>
Message-ID: <AADE74F4D32D49338607851691A48F5D@computer>

It's called "C'itait un Rendezvous" by Claude Leloach and is available 
direct from Spirit Level Films.  Great fun, even after all these years!

www.spiritlevelfilm.com

- Mike Hughes  -t?t-
  '37 TA 0512
  Alexandria, Virginia



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Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD


> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy French 
> driver
> whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at a 
> regional
> MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
> Thanks
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From zwart1 at cox.net  Sat Dec 13 17:41:43 2008
From: zwart1 at cox.net (Robert Zwart)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2008 16:41:43 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
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	Are these DVDs workable on our playback systems in the USA?    I saw  
one telling history of MG Production and then Rendezvous; both look  
good.  I   had this system problem with a Jim Clark recording years  
ago and I still kick it around as I can't play it and the cost of  
remaking it was more than just buying a new one.
	Bob Zwart,  zwart1 at cox.net


On Dec 11, 2008, at 10:41 AM, Mike Hughes wrote:

> It's called "C'itait un Rendezvous" by Claude Leloach and is  
> available direct from Spirit Level Films.  Great fun, even after all  
> these years!
>
> www.spiritlevelfilm.com
>
> - Mike Hughes  -t?t-
> '37 TA 0512
> Alexandria, Virginia
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <DB35PA at aol.com>
> To: <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2008 12:08 PM
> Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
>
>
>> Does anyone know where I can get a copy of older film of crazy  
>> French driver
>> whizzing through the streets of Paris? Saw it some year's ago at a  
>> regional
>> MG show. Need it for local MG Party gag.
>> Thanks
>> Don B.
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From hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net  Mon Dec 15 09:05:33 2008
From: hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net (Mike Hughes)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:05:33 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] looking for a film/DVD
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Yes, the DVDs are compatible.  I remember there used to be some problem with 
incompatible VCR recording formats, but there does not seem to be a similar 
problem with the SpiritLevel "Rendezvous" DVDs that I have received.

- Mike -t?t-

----- Original Message ----- 

> Are these DVDs workable on our playback systems in the USA?    I saw  one 
> telling history of MG Production and then Rendezvous; both look  good. 

From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 15 17:34:10 2008
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 19:34:10 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP39423DD00410091339296392F50@phx.gbl>

I would like to complete my collection of MMM Yearbooks. These are excellent
reference books.  I am missing the following:

1970 and any earlier or was 1970 the earliest? I have 1971.
1981
1983
1985
1987
1988 ( or was 1987/1988 one book? )

I also have sevaral surplus copies of the MMM Yearbooks for sale or trade
for above missing copies. These surplus are:
1988/89-1 copy
1989-2 copies
1990-2 copies
1992-2 copies
1993-1 copy
1994-1 copy.

If intersted in any of these copies, send me a $20.00 US$ bill and I will
mail the copies off to you. Please include your address.

Thanks and best regards for the Holiday Season from Canada. May your MG MMM
run forever!!!
Bob
Bob Grunau
150 Pinewood Trail
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada, L5G-2L1
905-274-4136
grunau.garage at sympatico.ca

From TATERRY at aol.com  Mon Dec 15 18:32:32 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:32:32 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
Message-ID: <c37.452e03e7.36785f30@aol.com>

Bob, 1973 is the earliest one I have, then there was 74, 75, 77, 79 and 
80.......86/87 was one issue/  I'm missing 81 and 83 if there was one.......???
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From TATERRY at aol.com  Mon Dec 15 18:47:24 2008
From: TATERRY at aol.com (TATERRY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2008 20:47:24 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
Message-ID: <cae.3bbf3ab5.367862ac@aol.com>

Bob, go here for a lot of info on year books:

<A HREF="http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1617&SearchTerms=yearbooks">http://www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1617&
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From zwart1 at cox.net  Fri Dec 19 13:37:53 2008
From: zwart1 at cox.net (Robert Zwart)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 12:37:53 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
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	Hi! this is Bob Zwart the 1929 M TYpe  guy.  You woke me up.  I am  
"Downsizing".  You young guys don't know the word.  I have gone many  
years, thinking it must be a swear word but "NOW I know"  ........  So  
here is a list for any of you interested.  the books weigh about 1/2  
pound so add that to the sale price of $5.00:
	Triple M Yearbooks:						T Register Yearbooks:	
		2002									1997
		1999									1993
		1998									1992
		1997									1991
		1998									1987
		1997  2 copies
		1994
		1993
		1990
		1989  2 copies
	I would pass on the lot for $75.00......  There must be someone who  
needs one or all.  They are all in good shape but have cover stickers   
8 Pound,  $15 etc...... in upper right corners.   Too bad I didn't get  
this out earlier.
	I have lots of hardbound books such as Oxford to Abingdon, The Magic  
of MG,  an MG Experience,  The Magic of the Marque(MG)  MG  
Collectibles,  The MG Car Club, the First 70 Years,  MG, the Tuning  
and Maintenance and many more.  I must mention.   I unfortunately  
purchased several of these books in pairs, one for the library of the  
Vintage MG Club of Southern California and the other to be bought by  
members who didn't want to just check a book out for a couple of  
weeks; they would want one of their own.  This did not happen.   Now  
I'm offering them to others.  As Librarian I had many contacts to buy  
my books.  I just became a book collector addict.
	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year-----
		Bob Zwart           zwart1 at cox.net
	By the way,  I have Club permission to check out books to Triple M  
Members.   The Club Library is loaded with over 250 books, mostly MG  
related.  You just notify me.....
On Dec 15, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Bob Grunau wrote:

> I would like to complete my collection of MMM Yearbooks. These are  
> excellent
> reference books.  I am missing the following:
>
> 1970 and any earlier or was 1970 the earliest? I have 1971.
> 1981
> 1983
> 1985
> 1987
> 1988 ( or was 1987/1988 one book? )
>
> I also have sevaral surplus copies of the MMM Yearbooks for sale or  
> trade
> for above missing copies. These surplus are:
> 1988/89-1 copy
> 1989-2 copies
> 1990-2 copies
> 1992-2 copies
> 1993-1 copy
> 1994-1 copy.
>
> If intersted in any of these copies, send me a $20.00 US$ bill and I  
> will
> mail the copies off to you. Please include your address.
>
> Thanks and best regards for the Holiday Season from Canada. May your  
> MG MMM
> run forever!!!
> Bob
> Bob Grunau
> 150 Pinewood Trail
> Mississauga, Ontario
> Canada, L5G-2L1
> 905-274-4136
> grunau.garage at sympatico.ca
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From zwart1 at cox.net  Fri Dec 19 15:51:24 2008
From: zwart1 at cox.net (Robert Zwart)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:51:24 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
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	I'm sorry, the lot went to Brian Kelly.  Boy, He is  
fast...................
On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:53 PM, jay at ukhistoric.com wrote:

> Hi Bob!
>
> I'm interested in the M-type lot if it's not taken.  I have a '35 P- 
> type
> that we got in April, so I need as much info as possible!
>
> I can be reached on this email(jay at ukhistoric.com) or 267-987-7327.
>
> Thanks!
> Jason.
> GUR963.
> Kintnersville, PA.
>
>> 	Hi! this is Bob Zwart the 1929 M TYpe  guy.  You woke me up.  I am
>> "Downsizing".  You young guys don't know the word.  I have gone many
>> years, thinking it must be a swear word but "NOW I know"  ........   
>> So
>> here is a list for any of you interested.  the books weigh about 1/2
>> pound so add that to the sale price of $5.00:
>> 	Triple M Yearbooks:						T Register Yearbooks:
>> 		2002									1997
>> 		1999									1993
>> 		1998									1992
>> 		1997									1991
>> 		1998									1987
>> 		1997  2 copies
>> 		1994
>> 		1993
>> 		1990
>> 		1989  2 copies
>> 	I would pass on the lot for $75.00......  There must be someone who
>> needs one or all.  They are all in good shape but have cover stickers
>> 8 Pound,  $15 etc...... in upper right corners.   Too bad I didn't  
>> get
>> this out earlier.
>> 	I have lots of hardbound books such as Oxford to Abingdon, The Magic
>> of MG,  an MG Experience,  The Magic of the Marque(MG)  MG
>> Collectibles,  The MG Car Club, the First 70 Years,  MG, the Tuning
>> and Maintenance and many more.  I must mention.   I unfortunately
>> purchased several of these books in pairs, one for the library of the
>> Vintage MG Club of Southern California and the other to be bought by
>> members who didn't want to just check a book out for a couple of
>> weeks; they would want one of their own.  This did not happen.   Now
>> I'm offering them to others.  As Librarian I had many contacts to buy
>> my books.  I just became a book collector addict.
>> 	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year-----
>> 		Bob Zwart           zwart1 at cox.net
>> 	By the way,  I have Club permission to check out books to Triple M
>> Members.   The Club Library is loaded with over 250 books, mostly MG
>> related.  You just notify me.....
>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Bob Grunau wrote:
>>
>>> I would like to complete my collection of MMM Yearbooks. These are
>>> excellent
>>> reference books.  I am missing the following:
>>>
>>> 1970 and any earlier or was 1970 the earliest? I have 1971.
>>> 1981
>>> 1983
>>> 1985
>>> 1987
>>> 1988 ( or was 1987/1988 one book? )
>>>
>>> I also have sevaral surplus copies of the MMM Yearbooks for sale or
>>> trade
>>> for above missing copies. These surplus are:
>>> 1988/89-1 copy
>>> 1989-2 copies
>>> 1990-2 copies
>>> 1992-2 copies
>>> 1993-1 copy
>>> 1994-1 copy.
>>>
>>> If intersted in any of these copies, send me a $20.00 US$ bill and I
>>> will
>>> mail the copies off to you. Please include your address.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards for the Holiday Season from Canada. May your
>>> MG MMM
>>> run forever!!!
>>> Bob
>>> Bob Grunau
>>> 150 Pinewood Trail
>>> Mississauga, Ontario
>>> Canada, L5G-2L1
>>> 905-274-4136
>>> grunau.garage at sympatico.ca
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From zwart1 at cox.net  Fri Dec 19 15:53:47 2008
From: zwart1 at cox.net (Robert Zwart)
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:53:47 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
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	I will inventory the hardbounds after Christmas.  I didn't think  
there would be so much interest.  Registers all sold............
			BOB ZWART			 Merry Christmas to all anyway!
On Dec 19, 2008, at 1:16 PM, spook01 wrote:

> que mucho for the hardbounds??  that's not english....
> Ray
>
> "Suffer not yourselves to be betrayed with a kiss." -Patrick Henry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Zwart" <zwart1 at cox.net>
> To: "Bob Grunau" <grunau.garage at sympatico.ca>
> Cc: "MG-MMM" <mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2008 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] Triple M Yearbooks
>
>
>> Hi! this is Bob Zwart the 1929 M TYpe  guy.  You woke me up.  I am   
>> "Downsizing".  You young guys don't know the word.  I have gone  
>> many  years, thinking it must be a swear word but "NOW I  
>> know"  ........  So  here is a list for any of you interested.  the  
>> books weigh about 1/2  pound so add that to the sale price of $5.00:
>> Triple M Yearbooks: T Register Yearbooks: 2002 1997
>> 1999 1993
>> 1998 1992
>> 1997 1991
>> 1998 1987
>> 1997  2 copies
>> 1994
>> 1993
>> 1990
>> 1989  2 copies
>> I would pass on the lot for $75.00......  There must be someone  
>> who  needs one or all.  They are all in good shape but have cover  
>> stickers   8 Pound,  $15 etc...... in upper right corners.   Too  
>> bad I didn't get  this out earlier.
>> I have lots of hardbound books such as Oxford to Abingdon, The  
>> Magic  of MG,  an MG Experience,  The Magic of the Marque(MG)  MG   
>> Collectibles,  The MG Car Club, the First 70 Years,  MG, the  
>> Tuning  and Maintenance and many more.  I must mention.   I  
>> unfortunately  purchased several of these books in pairs, one for  
>> the library of the  Vintage MG Club of Southern California and the  
>> other to be bought by  members who didn't want to just check a book  
>> out for a couple of  weeks; they would want one of their own.  This  
>> did not happen.   Now  I'm offering them to others.  As Librarian I  
>> had many contacts to buy  my books.  I just became a book collector  
>> addict.
>> Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year-----
>> Bob Zwart           zwart1 at cox.net
>> By the way,  I have Club permission to check out books to Triple M   
>> Members.   The Club Library is loaded with over 250 books, mostly  
>> MG  related.  You just notify me.....
>> On Dec 15, 2008, at 4:34 PM, Bob Grunau wrote:
>>> I would like to complete my collection of MMM Yearbooks. These  
>>> are  excellent
>>> reference books.  I am missing the following:
>>>
>>> 1970 and any earlier or was 1970 the earliest? I have 1971.
>>> 1981
>>> 1983
>>> 1985
>>> 1987
>>> 1988 ( or was 1987/1988 one book? )
>>>
>>> I also have sevaral surplus copies of the MMM Yearbooks for sale  
>>> or  trade
>>> for above missing copies. These surplus are:
>>> 1988/89-1 copy
>>> 1989-2 copies
>>> 1990-2 copies
>>> 1992-2 copies
>>> 1993-1 copy
>>> 1994-1 copy.
>>>
>>> If intersted in any of these copies, send me a $20.00 US$ bill and  
>>> I  will
>>> mail the copies off to you. Please include your address.
>>>
>>> Thanks and best regards for the Holiday Season from Canada. May  
>>> your  MG MMM
>>> run forever!!!
>>> Bob
>>> Bob Grunau
>>> 150 Pinewood Trail
>>> Mississauga, Ontario
>>> Canada, L5G-2L1
>>> 905-274-4136
>>> grunau.garage at sympatico.ca
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From ssasky at specialtyseals.com  Sun Dec 21 14:53:17 2008
From: ssasky at specialtyseals.com (Schuyler Hoffman)
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2008 13:53:17 -0800
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Screw-in tube on front of J2 engine for water
Message-ID: <NIBBIGBEOLDMACONLIKMKEDHEJAA.ssasky@specialtyseals.com>

Does anyone know the thread size of subject steel tube?  I'm rebuilding the
engine of my J2 and the existing one has a pretty small ID because of all
the rust.

Sky Hoffman  J2 2648

From kevin at sellingrichmond.com  Mon Dec 22 08:23:05 2008
From: kevin at sellingrichmond.com (Kevin Allocca)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:23:05 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
Message-ID: <009301c96449$30b50650$921f12f0$@com>

I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting my
postings?

Kevin Allocca

PA 1388

 

Kevin M. Allocca

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From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 22 08:35:31 2008
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:35:31 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
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Hi Kevin,
Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
Bob Grunau

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I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting my
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PA 1388



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From esane at msn.com  Mon Dec 22 08:51:44 2008
From: esane at msn.com (SANDY SANDERS)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 10:51:44 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
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coming through in Florida
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Mon Dec 22 08:56:01 2008
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:56:01 -0600
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
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Likewise. (the cold, too!)

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Bob Grunau
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 9:36 AM
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Hi Kevin,
Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
Bob Grunau

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PA 1388



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804-754-1835- Work

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From grunau.garage at sympatico.ca  Mon Dec 22 09:26:26 2008
From: grunau.garage at sympatico.ca (Bob Grunau)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 11:26:26 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] FW: NA-0686 MMM1512
Message-ID: <BLU0-SMTP43F9C3AA087E44FCA9A9E292EF0@phx.gbl>

Hi MMMers,
Since the cold and snow has slowed us up from work in the garage, I am
pleased to report that Santa was able to navigate easily and came early to
Ontario and delivered my Christmas present. A new MMM car!!! 1935 MG NA 4
seat open tourer, formerly owned by Joe Joslin.  Car chassis number is
NA-0686, engine number 960A/134N. 4 seat open tourer, black paint, blue
interior and wheels, ex Lancashire police vehicle in 1935.  Lancashire
police bought a whole series of MG NA four seaters as police cars back then.
Original UK registration plate is TJ-9036

I am pleased to be able to report that all the numbers match and are correct
as follows:
Chassis N-686 on chassis front,  ( actual designation is NA-0686 )
Engine 960A
            134 N
Brass data plate confirms numbers.
UK plate TJ 9036.  I have confirmation from Lancashire police records that
this is the original UK plate number in their fleet of cars in 1935.

I can't send photos over this address, so if anyone wants to see photos, I
can send individually.

Best regards from Ontario,
Bob Grunau
J-3017
PA-0531
NA-0686

From p.green at mgk3.co.uk  Mon Dec 22 10:23:40 2008
From: p.green at mgk3.co.uk (Peter Green)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:23:40 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
References: <BLU0-SMTP48E551661BBA99E22AF62F92EF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette>

Kevin,

Your message has even reached the UK, a nice warm 13C today.

Peter Green
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Grunau
  To: Kevin Allocca ; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test


  Hi Kevin,
  Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
  Bob Grunau

  -----Original Message-----
  From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net
  [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Allocca
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:23 AM
  To: Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Subject: [Mg-mmm] test


  I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting
my
  postings?

  Kevin Allocca

  PA 1388



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From Kellmg at aol.com  Mon Dec 22 10:25:23 2008
From: Kellmg at aol.com (Kellmg at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:25:23 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
Message-ID: <c99.3d4aaeb2.36812783@aol.com>

Kevin,
 
Your "several messages" didn't arrive, only this one.
 
Brian Kelly.
Kold Kansas.
 
 
 
In a message dated 12/22/2008 9:23:47 A.M. Central Standard Time,  
kevin at sellingrichmond.com writes:

I have  sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting  my
postings?

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From bispmotala at hotmail.com  Mon Dec 22 10:51:02 2008
From: bispmotala at hotmail.com (bispmotala)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:51:02 +0100
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
In-Reply-To: <7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette>
References: <BLU0-SMTP48E551661BBA99E22AF62F92EF0@phx.gbl>
	<7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette>
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Kevin
Message also reached Sweden, about zero (Centigrades that is) and windy.

Sven Ordell

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Fren: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
Fvr Peter Green
Skickat: den 22 december 2008 18:24
Till: Kevin Allocca; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
Dmne: Re: [Mg-mmm] test

Kevin,

Your message has even reached the UK, a nice warm 13C today.

Peter Green
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Bob Grunau
  To: Kevin Allocca ; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:35 PM
  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test


  Hi Kevin,
  Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
  Bob Grunau

  -----Original Message-----
  From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net
  [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Allocca
  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:23 AM
  To: Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
  Subject: [Mg-mmm] test


  I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting
my
  postings?

  Kevin Allocca

  PA 1388



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  Broker/Owner

  ND logo

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  2044 John Rolfe Parkway

  Richmond, VA 23238

  804-754-1835- Work

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From williehawaii at hawaii.rr.com  Mon Dec 22 10:57:58 2008
From: williehawaii at hawaii.rr.com (Willie Williams)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 07:57:58 -1000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
References: <BLU0-SMTP48E551661BBA99E22AF62F92EF0@phx.gbl><7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette>
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Message-ID: <F387BBF563484CC695D6DDC7C3C7E634@williepc>

Kevin, only the one message arrived in Honolulu.
A nice 80F expected today and a cool 68F tonight.

Willie Williams, whose J2 is expected back on the road next month after a 
year in the shop for "head work".

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bispmotala" <bispmotala at hotmail.com>
To: "'Peter Green'" <p.green at mgk3.co.uk>; "'Kevin Allocca'" 
<kevin at sellingrichmond.com>; <Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test


> Kevin
> Message also reached Sweden, about zero (Centigrades that is) and windy.
>
> Sven Ordell
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fren: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
> Fvr Peter Green
> Skickat: den 22 december 2008 18:24
> Till: Kevin Allocca; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
> Dmne: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>
> Kevin,
>
> Your message has even reached the UK, a nice warm 13C today.
>
> Peter Green
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bob Grunau
>  To: Kevin Allocca ; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>
>
>  Hi Kevin,
>  Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
>  Bob Grunau
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net
>  [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Allocca
>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:23 AM
>  To: Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>  Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
>
>
>  I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting
> my
>  postings?
>
>  Kevin Allocca
>
>  PA 1388
>
>
>
>  Kevin M. Allocca
>
>  Broker/Owner
>
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>
>  Neumann & Dunn Real Estate & Development LLC
>
>  2044 John Rolfe Parkway
>
>  Richmond, VA 23238
>
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>
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Mon Dec 22 11:03:26 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:03:26 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
References: <BLU0-SMTP48E551661BBA99E22AF62F92EF0@phx.gbl><7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette><BLU105-DAV5A402BF6DF0D7AED1F60FDDEF0@phx.gbl>
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Willie,

I sure hope there aren't any clouds around to ruin the 80F for you.

It's actually sunny here in northern Ohio today. But still windy, blowing 
the snow around and 10F or -12C for our high temp.

Good luck with the J2 head.

tommmmmmmmm

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Willie Williams" <williehawaii at hawaii.rr.com>
To: "bispmotala" <bispmotala at hotmail.com>; "'Peter Green'" 
<p.green at mgk3.co.uk>; "'Kevin Allocca'" <kevin at sellingrichmond.com>; 
<Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 12:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test


> Kevin, only the one message arrived in Honolulu.
> A nice 80F expected today and a cool 68F tonight.
>
> Willie Williams, whose J2 is expected back on the road next month after a 
> year in the shop for "head work".
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "bispmotala" <bispmotala at hotmail.com>
> To: "'Peter Green'" <p.green at mgk3.co.uk>; "'Kevin Allocca'" 
> <kevin at sellingrichmond.com>; <Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 7:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>
>
>> Kevin
>> Message also reached Sweden, about zero (Centigrades that is) and windy.
>>
>> Sven Ordell
>>
>> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
>> Fren: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net 
>> [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
>> Fvr Peter Green
>> Skickat: den 22 december 2008 18:24
>> Till: Kevin Allocca; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>> Dmne: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>>
>> Kevin,
>>
>> Your message has even reached the UK, a nice warm 13C today.
>>
>> Peter Green
>>  ----- Original Message -----
>>  From: Bob Grunau
>>  To: Kevin Allocca ; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:35 PM
>>  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>>
>>
>>  Hi Kevin,
>>  Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
>>  Bob Grunau
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>>  From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net
>>  [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Allocca
>>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:23 AM
>>  To: Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>>  Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
>>
>>
>>  I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list 
>> getting
>> my
>>  postings?
>>
>>  Kevin Allocca
>>
>>  PA 1388
>>
>>
>>
>>  Kevin M. Allocca
>>
>>  Broker/Owner
>>
>>  ND logo
>>
>>  Neumann & Dunn Real Estate & Development LLC
>>
>>  2044 John Rolfe Parkway
>>
>>  Richmond, VA 23238
>>
>>  804-754-1835- Work
>>
>>  804-750-1836- Fax
>>
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From DB35PA at aol.com  Mon Dec 22 11:06:48 2008
From: DB35PA at aol.com (DB35PA at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 13:06:48 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] KC checking in
Message-ID: <cec.4b06eee6.36813138@aol.com>

Kevin, 
I'd like to follow along on your possible gear change project. 
 
Heat wave in Sunny Kansas City with 11 F at noon. Yesterday a nippy 6  F and 
wind chill at -14 F. Think I'll go for a dip in the pool.
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From Boballey747 at aol.com  Mon Dec 22 12:42:29 2008
From: Boballey747 at aol.com (Boballey747 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 14:42:29 EST
Subject: [Mg-mmm] NB history
Message-ID: <d50.3d957461.368147a5@aol.com>

I'm trying to find out something about the history of my car N 0858. So far  
I've run into dead ends. The only lead I haven't followed up is a receipt I  
found with some parts. The receipt was from Barry Walker to G. Hall dated in 
the  80's.The address for MR. Hall was 122 Little Oaks Road, Encinitas,Ca. 
Anyone  heard of or know Mr. Hall?
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From nowlanc at comcast.net  Mon Dec 22 13:46:49 2008
From: nowlanc at comcast.net (Chris Nowlan)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:46:49 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Season's Greetings
References: <d50.3d957461.368147a5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <006c01c96476$699dfd50$6401a8c0@cjn>

Hi Guys,

    Season's greetings to all the MMM listers!   Yes, it's cold here in New 
Hampshire and we have 15-18 inches of fresh snow on the ground. It really is 
beautiful and with a nice fire going in the fireplace, a warm flannel shirt, 
fuzzy slippers and some sipping whiskey, it's really not hard to take! 
Having said that, we did have a major ice storm about 10 days ago and lost 
all outside utilities for six days. Fortunately, we have a standby generator 
so at least had heat, water and lights.  The very large pine tree that fell 
on the roof did only minimal damage...it could have been far worse.

    MMM activity has pretty well ground to a halt but at least the L2 and J2 
are running well and don't require major work this winter.   I am already 
looking forward to some vintage racing in the spring.

    My L2 is featured as the car of the week with the MG Car Club website 
and includes a seasonal photo...check it out at 
http://www.mgcc.co.uk/mg-news/car-of-the-week/december.html

    Wishing you all the very best.

Chris Nowlan 

From spook01 at comcast.net  Mon Dec 22 19:48:54 2008
From: spook01 at comcast.net (spook01)
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 20:48:54 -0600
Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
References: <BLU0-SMTP48E551661BBA99E22AF62F92EF0@phx.gbl><7F130DE4070C4C3EAFC93AA218435094@magnette>
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Message-ID: <EF76AF2FDF76411FBD1B699B04692053@yourpd3mh0abgs>

worked in nashville, home of global warming.....where it is 11 F.
no snow, though!
Ray

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "bispmotala" <bispmotala at hotmail.com>
To: "'Peter Green'" <p.green at mgk3.co.uk>; "'Kevin Allocca'" 
<kevin at sellingrichmond.com>; <Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 11:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test


> Kevin
> Message also reached Sweden, about zero (Centigrades that is) and windy.
>
> Sven Ordell
>
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Fren: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
> Fvr Peter Green
> Skickat: den 22 december 2008 18:24
> Till: Kevin Allocca; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
> Dmne: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>
> Kevin,
>
> Your message has even reached the UK, a nice warm 13C today.
>
> Peter Green
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: Bob Grunau
>  To: Kevin Allocca ; Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 3:35 PM
>  Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] test
>
>
>  Hi Kevin,
>  Coming through loud and clear to frozen., snow bound,  Ontario.
>  Bob Grunau
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net
>  [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kevin Allocca
>  Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 10:23 AM
>  To: Mg-mmm at autox.team.net
>  Subject: [Mg-mmm] test
>
>
>  I have sent several messages with no reply. Is anyone on the list getting
> my
>  postings?
>
>  Kevin Allocca
>
>  PA 1388
>
>
>
>  Kevin M. Allocca
>
>  Broker/Owner
>
>  ND logo
>
>  Neumann & Dunn Real Estate & Development LLC
>
>  2044 John Rolfe Parkway
>
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>
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From lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com  Tue Dec 23 10:04:06 2008
From: lpalmer at roundaboutmanor.com (Lew Palmer)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:04:06 -0600
Subject: [Mg-mmm] NB history
In-Reply-To: <d50.3d957461.368147a5@aol.com>
References: <d50.3d957461.368147a5@aol.com>
Message-ID: <394DB084A7584E9FB4E5F2003E1B337D@roundabout.com>

There is still a Hall on Little Oaks Road. Perhaps she might know of the
person.
Betty J Hall
147 Little Oaks Rd
Encinitas, CA 92024
(760) 632-8248

Cheers,
Lew Palmer

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Boballey747 at aol.com
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 1:42 PM
To: mg-mmm at autox.team.net
Subject: [Mg-mmm] NB history

I'm trying to find out something about the history of my car N 0858. So far

I've run into dead ends. The only lead I haven't followed up is a receipt I

found with some parts. The receipt was from Barry Walker to G. Hall dated in

the  80's.The address for MR. Hall was 122 Little Oaks Road, Encinitas,Ca. 
Anyone  heard of or know Mr. Hall?
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From burnett at wistar.org  Tue Dec 23 10:47:56 2008
From: burnett at wistar.org (Roger M. Burnett)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 12:47:56 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Simeone Museum
Message-ID: <9733DDCC-5C2C-4907-A091-905028345281@wistar.org>

We are in Philadelphia for the holidays and, by a strange  
coincidence, received the flurry of emails about a local car  
collection just before a friend who had been Dr. Fred Simeone's  
patient suggested that we pay it a visit.

I can only echo the enthusiasm.  The Simeone Foundation has the most  
amazing collection of racing sports cars, including an MG K3 that  
came 4th in the 1934 Le Mans.  Dr. Simeone, who was a neurosurgeon  
here, has collected the cars since he inherited four from his  
father.  I had vaguely heard of his collection while we lived here  
(until recently, the cars were housed in a nearby downtown garage)  
but Dr. Simeone has now retired and established the museum.  We were  
very fortunate that he was there when we arrived and he generously  
took the time to show us some of its highlights.  The cars are housed  
in a former engine reconditioning factory and are arranged in simple  
but wonderfully evocative dioramas that he designed himself and put  
together from simple materials from local building supply stores.   
When he heard of my interest in MGs, he took us to the K3 and  
demonstrated how its steering wheel is removable so the driver can  
slide into the narrow seating space.  The story of how he came by the  
K3 is interesting.  He first purchased its bonnet and realized by the  
double strap guides that it must have come from a racing car.   
Further research led him to the dismantled car, which he was able to  
purchase after complicated negotiations.  I suggested that he write  
up the full story - perhaps for the Yearbook.

We were told that museum visitors form three categories:  streakers;   
strollers;  and students.  At the moment, good but brief descriptions  
of the cars cater to the first two groups.  Enthusiasts will be  
interested in the plans to install a cell phone-based system next  
year that will give more detailed information.  You could check  
whether this is in operation before planning a visit (although it is  
worthwhile right now).  The collection is truly impressive - take a  
look for yourself at http://www.simeonefoundation.org/

With my very best wishes to everyone for a Wonderful Holiday and for  
a Peaceful and Joyous New Year.

Roger

From kevin at sellingrichmond.com  Tue Dec 23 12:05:00 2008
From: kevin at sellingrichmond.com (Kevin Allocca)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:05:00 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] question
Message-ID: <00a101c96531$5b65c950$12315bf0$@com>

Thanks to everyone who replied to my last email. I am glad I am getting
thru. I have been unable to send postings for weeks due to some problem with
my account.  Anyway the two questions I was seeking input on are as follows:

#1- I have recently gotten an aluminum trailer and want to get tie down
straps or a tie down system. I have in the past just used straps making an
"X" at the front and back but have seen ones that fit over the tires and
seen on line what looks like a track type system that is mounted to the
trailer deck. Any advice and places to source would be great.

#2 I am thinking about installing the Sport and Vintage close ratio gear set
in my PA. tranny. I have heard from Chris Leydon who did it and that he
loves it but wanted to see if any other MMM'ers  have made the conversion
and get some input.

#3 And most important, suggestions on how to sell my wife on conversion!

  

 

Thanks very much,

Kevin Allocca

PA 1388

 

Kevin M. Allocca

Broker/Owner

ND logo

Neumann & Dunn Real Estate & Development LLC

2044 John Rolfe Parkway

Richmond, VA 23238

804-754-1835- Work

804-750-1836- Fax

804-909-5751- Cell

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From bill707 at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 23 12:50:30 2008
From: bill707 at earthlink.net (Bill Tantau)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:50:30 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mg-mmm] question
Message-ID: <13772328.1230061830621.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Kevin Allocca
     #1-  I have recently gotten an aluminum trailer and want to get tie
     down
     straps  or  a  tie down system. I have in the past just used straps
     making an
     "X"  at  the  front  and  back but have seen ones that fit over the
     tires and
     seen on line what looks like a track type system that is mounted to
     the
     trailer deck. Any advice and places to source would be great.
     I  use  fixed-length  straps  at the front - two that loop over the
     axle  -  and  two  ratchet  type at the rear in line with the outer
     sides  of the rear wheels, and attach same with small loops of soft
     nylon  rope (I use sailboat line material 3/4 to 1" diam) that loop
     over  the knockoffs.... take up the slack with the ratchets and set
     the brakes. No X's.
     #2 I am thinking about installing the Sport and Vintage close ratio
     gear set
     in  my  PA.  tranny.  I have heard from Chris Leydon who did it and
     that he
     loves  it  but  wanted  to  see  if any other MMM'ers have made the
     conversion
     and get some input.
     #3  And  most  important,  suggestions  on  how  to sell my wife on
     conversion!
     How  she  will  LOVE  the  old gear set... book ends, canoe anchor,
     white elphant bridge group prize??

     Cheers!
     Bill Tantau

From bill707 at earthlink.net  Tue Dec 23 12:50:12 2008
From: bill707 at earthlink.net (Bill Tantau)
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2008 14:50:12 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mg-mmm] question
Message-ID: <11198140.1230061812699.JavaMail.root@mswamui-swiss.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

     -----Original Message-----
     From: Kevin Allocca
     #1-  I have recently gotten an aluminum trailer and want to get tie
     down
     straps  or  a  tie down system. I have in the past just used straps
     making an
     "X"  at  the  front  and  back but have seen ones that fit over the
     tires and
     seen on line what looks like a track type system that is mounted to
     the
     trailer deck. Any advice and places to source would be great.
     I  use  fixed-length  straps  at the front - two that loop over the
     axle  -  and  two  ratchet  type at the rear in line with the outer
     sides  of the rear wheels, and attach same with small loops of soft
     nylon  rope (I use sailboat line material 3/4 to 1" diam) that loop
     over  the knockoffs.... take up the slack with the ratchets and set
     the brakes. No X's.
     #2 I am thinking about installing the Sport and Vintage close ratio
     gear set
     in  my  PA.  tranny.  I have heard from Chris Leydon who did it and
     that he
     loves  it  but  wanted  to  see  if any other MMM'ers have made the
     conversion
     and get some input.
     #3  And  most  important,  suggestions  on  how  to sell my wife on
     conversion!
     How  she  will  LOVE  the  old gear set... book ends, canoe anchor,
     white elphant bridge group prize??

From kevin at sellingrichmond.com  Wed Dec 24 10:29:15 2008
From: kevin at sellingrichmond.com (Kevin Allocca)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 12:29:15 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Gear Box
Message-ID: <005a01c965ed$25c51fa0$714f5ee0$@com>

It was suggested to me that in lieu of converting my Tranny to close ratio
gears that I should use a PB box. Does anyone on the list have one for sale?
If so please contact with  condition and price. Kevin at sellingrichmond.com 

Best, 

Kevin Allocca

 

PA1388

 

 

Kevin M. Allocca

Broker/Owner

ND logo

Neumann & Dunn Real Estate & Development LLC

2044 John Rolfe Parkway

Richmond, VA 23238

804-754-1835- Work

804-750-1836- Fax

804-909-5751- Cell

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From spook01 at comcast.net  Wed Dec 24 12:36:38 2008
From: spook01 at comcast.net (spook01)
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2008 13:36:38 -0600
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Gear Box
References: <005a01c965ed$25c51fa0$714f5ee0$@com>
Message-ID: <062A911688F2426AB160D3D090434922@yourpd3mh0abgs>

Since we are boxing, anyone have a good J2 box for sale?
Ray

From clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com  Thu Dec 25 03:09:35 2008
From: clive.sherriff at ntlworld.com (Clive Sherriff)
Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 10:09:35 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Gear Box
References: <005a01c965ed$25c51fa0$714f5ee0$@com>
	<062A911688F2426AB160D3D090434922@yourpd3mh0abgs>
Message-ID: <AD1DBBDDF61C454B903011E63924D185@cypress>

Tomorrow - Boxing Day - might produce some results !

Clive

Oxford UK
=====================================
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "spook01" <spook01 at comcast.net>
To: <Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 24, 2008 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Mg-mmm] Gear Box


> Since we are boxing, anyone have a good J2 box for sale?
> Ray
> _______________________________________________

From garykrukoski at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 31 11:43:36 2008
From: garykrukoski at yahoo.com (Gary Krukoski)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 10:43:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mg-mmm] New fuel tank to new J2 tub
Message-ID: <978013.68750.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I'm currently installing a new fuel tank to a new body tub. With out the
original tub or original mounting clamps for the spare tire rack as reference.
1  Should there be a rubber cushion between the bottom and or back of the
tank?
2  The two holes that I need to drill in to the back of the tub I need the
distance apart and the distance from the top of the chassis rail to the center
of the holes?
3  I need to make the two lower mounting clamps for the bottom of the tire
rack that go around the rear chassis tube. I need the distance between the
holes. Are the holes evenly spaced or is one off set?
If you happen to have any photos that might help that would be great.

garykrukoski at yahoo.com

Happy Holiday To All

Gary

From gd.morbey at virgin.net  Wed Dec 31 11:53:42 2008
From: gd.morbey at virgin.net (Richard and Gill Morbey)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:53:42 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] New fuel tank to new J2 tub
In-Reply-To: <978013.68750.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <978013.68750.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAOAkqpKUmHZGph006p7WQJfCgAAAEAAAADrGfe1CvQRPqmYswXBo31ABAAAAAA==@virgin.net>

Gary
Try looking on the Triple-M discussion forum - see 

www.triple-mregister.org/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2012&SearchTerms=rubber 

this relates to my PA, but I'm fairly sure a similar setup is used on the J


"On my PA, which still had the original body when I bought it in 1974, there
were three strips of rubber between the rear of the body and the petrol
tank.

One was horizontal, about three quarters the width of the tank and was
screwed to the body about one inch below the top of the tank. The other two
were about one foot long and were mounted vertically each side of the body a
bit inboard from the edge of the tank.

>From memory, the strips were about 3/8 or 1/2 inch in section and about one
and a half inches wide.

I replaced the rubbers with new material but the only change I made was to
the top strip. This had collected water over the years and made the tank
rusty - there being nowhere for the water to run away. I therefore used two
top strips with a gap in the centre and angled them down a few degrees to
allow water to drain down.

There are also similar rubbers that sit on the chassis side rails underneath
the petrol tank, to isolate it from road shocks.

Regards
Dick Morbey
PA 0743

-----Original Message-----
From: mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:mg-mmm-bounces at autox.team.net]
On Behalf Of Gary Krukoski
Sent: 31 December 2008 18:44
To: MG-MMM
Subject: [Mg-mmm] New fuel tank to new J2 tub

I'm currently installing a new fuel tank to a new body tub. With out the
original tub or original mounting clamps for the spare tire rack as
reference.
1  Should there be a rubber cushion between the bottom and or back of the
tank?
2  The two holes that I need to drill in to the back of the tub I need the
distance apart and the distance from the top of the chassis rail to the
center
of the holes?
3  I need to make the two lower mounting clamps for the bottom of the tire
rack that go around the rear chassis tube. I need the distance between the
holes. Are the holes evenly spaced or is one off set?
If you happen to have any photos that might help that would be great.

garykrukoski at yahoo.com

Happy Holiday To All

Gary
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From mgtom at zoominternet.net  Wed Dec 31 12:01:39 2008
From: mgtom at zoominternet.net (TOM METCALF)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:01:39 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] New fuel tank to new J2 tub
References: <978013.68750.qm@web30701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <00d301c96b7a$37055bd0$ad00a8c0@yourb27fb1c401>

> I'm currently installing a new fuel tank to a new body tub. With out the
> original tub or original mounting clamps for the spare tire rack as 
> reference.
> 1  Should there be a rubber cushion between the bottom and or back of the
> tank?

Yes, I use a complete rubber strip TC fuel tank mounting kit from Moss. It 
has all 5 pieces.


> 2  The two holes that I need to drill in to the back of the tub I need the
> distance apart and the distance from the top of the chassis rail to the 
> center
> of the holes?

The bottom of the chassis frame rear cross member will have locating holes 
for the lower clamps. The bottom clamp has a peg that indexes with these 
holes and the straps go straight up, giving you the dimension. Once the tank 
is mounted you can detirmine how high the holes need to go in the new body 
tub back board.

> 3  I need to make the two lower mounting clamps for the bottom of the tire
> rack that go around the rear chassis tube. I need the distance between the
> holes. Are the holes evenly spaced or is one off set?

These clamps are same though TC. Somebody made a batch of new ones but I 
can't remember who/where.  tommmmmmm

> If you happen to have any photos that might help that would be great.
>
> garykrukoski at yahoo.com
>
> Happy Holiday To All
>
> Gary
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From jj at octagon.fsbusiness.co.uk  Wed Dec 31 13:26:02 2008
From: jj at octagon.fsbusiness.co.uk (John James)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:26:02 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] FITTING THE J2 PETROL TANK
Message-ID: <075A23C38C364D2F8B38C3FF0D97F8D1@DAD>

Gary,



I concur with Dick Morbeys comments - especially regarding the fitting of
the rubber packing along the top of the tank. The original rubber packing on
my TC (been there since 1946, as this is when the previous owner bought the
car) is = in section and 11/4 wide. The five pieces referred to by Tom
Metcalf are the three mentioned by Dick plus two for the tank to sit on. You
probably wouldnt need to go to MOSS to obtain this rubber packing.



On my J2, the holes which act as locating points for the pegs in the
mounting clamps are in the TOP of the rear chassis tube. The distance
between centres (or centers as you call them!) is 16 =. My J1 chassis has
the same holes, but of course the fuel tank arrangement is different.



I would check the arrangement on my PB, but its tucked up nice and warm in
my daughters garage.



If you are really stuck I can send you out a couple of clamps to copy.



And now for a bit of light relief



http://www.mgauctionwatch.com/merrychristmas.php



JOHN JAMES

Keynsham (twixt Bath and Bristol) England

From hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net  Wed Dec 31 14:06:10 2008
From: hughes.c.m at worldnet.att.net (Mike Hughes)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 16:06:10 -0500
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Happy New Year !!!
References: <00a101c96531$5b65c950$12315bf0$@com>
Message-ID: <BE2296913FBF41E28934F7E84F21F123@computer>

May peace break into your house and may thieves come to steal your debts.
May the pockets of your jeans become a magnet of  $100 bills. May love stick
to your face like Vaseline and may laughter assault your lips! May your
clothes smell of success like smoking tires and may happiness slap you
across the face and may your tears be that of joy. May the problems you had
forget your home address! In simple words ............


May 2009 be the best year of your life!!!

- Mike Hughes  -t?t-
  Alexandria, Virginia

From mark.boldry at ntlworld.com  Wed Dec 31 14:24:40 2008
From: mark.boldry at ntlworld.com (Mark T Boldry)
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 2008 21:24:40 -0000
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Happy New Year !!!
References: <00a101c96531$5b65c950$12315bf0$@com>
	<BE2296913FBF41E28934F7E84F21F123@computer>
Message-ID: <4EE90AA5F1394BED876EC220542A9743@home62da3112b7>

I'll drink to that....!

Happy New Year ALL....

Mark.



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To: <Mg-mmm at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 9:06 PM
Subject: [Mg-mmm] Happy New Year !!!


> May peace break into your house and may thieves come to steal your debts.
> May the pockets of your jeans become a magnet of  $100 bills. May love 
> stick
> to your face like Vaseline and may laughter assault your lips! May your
> clothes smell of success like smoking tires and may happiness slap you
> across the face and may your tears be that of joy. May the problems you 
> had
> forget your home address! In simple words ............
>
>
> May 2009 be the best year of your life!!!
>
> - Mike Hughes  -t?t-
>  Alexandria, Virginia
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