From drmayf at mayfco.com Sat May 18 17:54:18 2013 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 16:54:18 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Video Links I sent... Message-ID: <519814AA.2000008@mayfco.com> I sent a message with two video links to the first and second start ups of our 260 normally aspirated motor for 2013's salt flats festivities. I have not received a message from tigers at autox.team.net so has any body seen the message with the links? mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri May 17 19:37:26 2013 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Fri, 17 May 2013 18:37:26 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] World's Fastest Sunbeam 260 race Motor First Starts Message-ID: <5196DB56.2090905@mayfco.com> I finally decided to bite the bullet and put the first two start ups of the World's Fastest Sunbeam's 2013 normally aspirated motor on You Tube. Bot are raw versions, glitches and all. I figure you want to see the motor run anyway so no matter what it looks like. Monday I hope to runt eh motor against my new diy water cooled disk brake dyno I have been building from scratch. If it works ok, heck, maybe if it don't also, I'll put that video up also. Start up number one. Pretty ragged running because I am still using the turbo motor EFI tune file! http://youtu.be/5fwL_nEOv4g Start up number 2. This was to get it idling and running smoother. Still no changes to EFI configuration. http://youtu.be/ZLzRRjVUR1o enjoy it or not, lol... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Sat May 18 18:15:32 2013 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:15:32 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] World's Fastest Sunbeam 260 race Motor First Starts Message-ID: <519819A4.6040900@mayfco.com> Try number 2...... I finally decided to bite the bullet and put the first two start ups of the World's Fastest Sunbeam's 2013 normally aspirated motor on You Tube. Bot are raw versions, glitches and all. I figure you want to see the motor run anyway so no matter what it looks like. Monday I hope to runt eh motor against my new diy water cooled disk brake dyno I have been building from scratch. If it works ok, heck, maybe if it don't also, I'll put that video up also. Start up number one. Pretty ragged running because I am still using the turbo motor EFI tune file! http://youtu.be/5fwL_nEOv4g Start up number 2. This was to get it idling and running smoother. Still no changes to EFI configuration. http://youtu.be/ZLzRRjVUR1o enjoy it or not, lol... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From neil at dbelltech.com Sat May 18 18:47:45 2013 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 17:47:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] World's Fastest Sunbeam 260 race Motor First Starts In-Reply-To: <519819A4.6040900@mayfco.com> References: <519819A4.6040900@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <5B023621C4A3415D86C7CD7980D590BC@HP> Very nice, Mayf!! Thanks for posting your videos. Mrs Mayfield looks pleased, too. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 5:15 PM To: tigers at autox.team.net ; land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] World's Fastest Sunbeam 260 race Motor First Starts Try number 2...... I finally decided to bite the bullet and put the first two start ups of the World's Fastest Sunbeam's 2013 normally aspirated motor on You Tube. Bot are raw versions, glitches and all. I figure you want to see the motor run anyway so no matter what it looks like. Monday I hope to runt eh motor against my new diy water cooled disk brake dyno I have been building from scratch. If it works ok, heck, maybe if it don't also, I'll put that video up also. Start up number one. Pretty ragged running because I am still using the turbo motor EFI tune file! http://youtu.be/5fwL_nEOv4g Start up number 2. This was to get it idling and running smoother. Still no changes to EFI configuration. http://youtu.be/ZLzRRjVUR1o enjoy it or not, lol... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From fosterap at flash.net Sun May 19 08:11:43 2013 From: fosterap at flash.net (Jerry Foster) Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 09:11:43 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Video Links I sent... In-Reply-To: <519814AA.2000008@mayfco.com> References: <519814AA.2000008@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Mayf, your videos made it all the way to Texas! Looking good. Jerry in Dallas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" To: ; Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2013 6:54 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Video Links I sent... >I sent a message with two video links to the first and second start ups > of our 260 normally aspirated motor for 2013's salt flats festivities. > > I have not received a message from tigers at autox.team.net so has any > body seen the message with the links? > > mayf > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > _______________________________________________ From yesford at clear.net.nz Sun May 19 16:36:44 2013 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris) Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 10:36:44 +1200 Subject: [Land-speed] World's Fastest Sunbeam 260 race Motor First Starts In-Reply-To: <5B023621C4A3415D86C7CD7980D590BC@HP> References: <519819A4.6040900@mayfco.com> <5B023621C4A3415D86C7CD7980D590BC@HP> Message-ID: Larry, Well done, great sound, look'n good my friend. We also fired our 'B' class SBF yesterday..............roll on SpeedWeek 2013, any early report on the salt out there yet. Chris Harris........NZed. > Try number 2...... > > I finally decided to bite the bullet and put the first two start ups of > the World's Fastest Sunbeam's 2013 normally aspirated motor on You Tube. > Bot are raw versions, glitches and all. I figure you want to see the > motor run anyway so no matter what it looks like. Monday I hope to runt > eh motor against my new diy water cooled disk brake dyno I have been > building from scratch. If it works ok, heck, maybe if it don't also, > I'll put that video up also. > > Start up number one. Pretty ragged running because I am still using the > turbo motor EFI tune file! > > http://youtu.be/5fwL_nEOv4g > > Start up number 2. This was to get it idling and running smoother. Still > no changes to EFI configuration. > > http://youtu.be/ZLzRRjVUR1o > > enjoy it or not, lol... > > mayf From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue May 21 15:45:44 2013 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 14:45:44 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Message-ID: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> Ok, so you all looked at the vids of the first two startups of the Sunbeam's newest motor. Well, now here is a third one, made yesterday, that has the run stand coupled to its diy dyno counterpart. This was the first time ever fired up on the dyno and there were lots of questions in my mind. It worked out just fine! The dyno is something I fabricated from scratch using a Jaguar IRS with inboard disk brakes. I even shortened the drive shaft myself. The blue components are water collectors and shields to keep water from going all over the place. Two spray nozzles along side each rotor. Lots of things I might do differently, lots of things to change or improve, but it works! When operating at 2500 rpm, I am able to drop the rpm with just a small change in pressure to the brake master cylinder's push cylinder. And recover the rpm afterwards. I did not try and break anything because the tune is not right. Ok for the load level we were at but not a full boogie run. Plus, if I ran it at full song, I suspect the police would have been there in short order, lol. It barks really loudly, so some turbo mufflers are required... here is the link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEGXda1cZ8Q mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue May 21 17:32:59 2013 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 16:32:59 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Ford F250 for sale. Message-ID: <519C042B.5070903@mayfco.com> I want to sell my 2000 F250 Lariat Powerstroke Super Cab truck. Her eis a link to it on Craig's list... please buy it, baby needs new shoes..... http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cto/3820520907.html thanks for looking! mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From neil at dbelltech.com Tue May 21 17:44:53 2013 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 16:44:53 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... In-Reply-To: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> References: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <72DD534DFF44488D85CAD376E6BBA10C@HP> Now that is clever, Mayf-- using Jag inboard brakes as a power absorber. I suppose different brake pads would give different results when wet ... Hey-- you can measure the power by calculating the temperature rise of the water and the flow rate! Not very fast response, though. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:45 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net ; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Ok, so you all looked at the vids of the first two startups of the Sunbeam's newest motor. Well, now here is a third one, made yesterday, that has the run stand coupled to its diy dyno counterpart. This was the first time ever fired up on the dyno and there were lots of questions in my mind. It worked out just fine! The dyno is something I fabricated from scratch using a Jaguar IRS with inboard disk brakes. I even shortened the drive shaft myself. The blue components are water collectors and shields to keep water from going all over the place. Two spray nozzles along side each rotor. Lots of things I might do differently, lots of things to change or improve, but it works! When operating at 2500 rpm, I am able to drop the rpm with just a small change in pressure to the brake master cylinder's push cylinder. And recover the rpm afterwards. I did not try and break anything because the tune is not right. Ok for the load level we were at but not a full boogie run. Plus, if I ran it at full song, I suspect the police would have been there in short order, lol. It barks really loudly, so some turbo mufflers are required... here is the link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEGXda1cZ8Q mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From richardwallendal at yahoo.com Tue May 21 19:58:59 2013 From: richardwallendal at yahoo.com (Richard Wallendal) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 18:58:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... In-Reply-To: <72DD534DFF44488D85CAD376E6BBA10C@HP> References: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> <72DD534DFF44488D85CAD376E6BBA10C@HP> Message-ID: <1369187939.71414.YahooMailNeo@web120105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> use a hydraulic cylinder as an anchor for the calipers and then you can convert pressure to torque and thus HP . Contrivance Engineering uses a similar setup as a motormount on their roadster to give realtime HP ________________________________ From: Neil Albaugh To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net; tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Now that is clever, Mayf-- using Jag inboard brakes as a power absorber. I suppose different brake pads would give different results when wet ... Hey-- you can measure the power by calculating the temperature rise of the water and the flow rate! Not very fast response, though. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:45 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net ; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Ok, so you all looked at the vids of the first two startups of the Sunbeam's newest motor. Well, now here is a third one, made yesterday, that has the run stand coupled to its diy dyno counterpart. This was the first time ever fired up on the dyno and there were lots of questions in my mind. It worked out just fine! The dyno is something I fabricated from scratch using a Jaguar IRS with inboard disk brakes. I even shortened the drive shaft myself. The blue components are water collectors and shields to keep water from going all over the place. Two spray nozzles along side each rotor. Lots of things I might do differently, lots of things to change or improve, but it works! When operating at 2500 rpm, I am able to drop the rpm with just a small change in pressure to the brake master cylinder's push cylinder. And recover the rpm afterwards. I did not try and break anything because the tune is not right. Ok for the load level we were at but not a full boogie run. Plus, if I ran it at full song, I suspect the police would have been there in short order, lol. It barks really loudly, so some turbo mufflers are required... here is the link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEGXda1cZ8Q mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/richardwallendal at yahoo.com From neil at dbelltech.com Tue May 21 20:04:30 2013 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 19:04:30 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... In-Reply-To: <1369187939.71414.YahooMailNeo@web120105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> References: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> <72DD534DFF44488D85CAD376E6BBA10C@HP> <1369187939.71414.YahooMailNeo@web120105.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <5FDF5949F0F74A0DB30DE55838308EED@HP> Good idea! From: Richard Wallendal Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:58 PM To: Neil Albaugh ; drmayf at mayfco.com ; land-speed at autox.team.net ; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... use a hydraulic cylinder as an anchor for the calipers and then you can convert pressure to torque and thus HP . Contrivance Engineering uses a similar setup as a motormount on their roadster to give realtime HP From: Neil Albaugh To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net; tigers at autox.team.net Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 6:44 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Now that is clever, Mayf-- using Jag inboard brakes as a power absorber. I suppose different brake pads would give different results when wet ... Hey-- you can measure the power by calculating the temperature rise of the water and the flow rate! Not very fast response, though. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: Larry Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:45 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net ; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Ok, so you all looked at the vids of the first two startups of the Sunbeam's newest motor. Well, now here is a third one, made yesterday, that has the run stand coupled to its diy dyno counterpart. This was the first time ever fired up on the dyno and there were lots of questions in my mind. It worked out just fine! The dyno is something I fabricated from scratch using a Jaguar IRS with inboard disk brakes. I even shortened the drive shaft myself. The blue components are water collectors and shields to keep water from going all over the place. Two spray nozzles along side each rotor. Lots of things I might do differently, lots of things to change or improve, but it works! When operating at 2500 rpm, I am able to drop the rpm with just a small change in pressure to the brake master cylinder's push cylinder. And recover the rpm afterwards. I did not try and break anything because the tune is not right. Ok for the load level we were at but not a full boogie run. Plus, if I ran it at full song, I suspect the police would have been there in short order, lol. It barks really loudly, so some turbo mufflers are required... here is the link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEGXda1cZ8Q mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/richardwallendal at yahoo.com From lsrvette at yahoo.com Wed May 22 06:30:03 2013 From: lsrvette at yahoo.com (John Staiger) Date: Wed, 22 May 2013 08:30:03 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... In-Reply-To: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> References: <519BEB08.8060100@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <018c01ce56e8$16a11560$43e34020$@yahoo.com> Very cool... great job Mayf. The engine sounds good and the dyno is very interesting. Are you planning to control the load by hand for sweeps? Or automate it to hold an RPM/Load for tuning? If so, what are you planning to use to control the hydraulic brakes? JLS -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 5:46 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net; tigers at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Sunbeam 260 and DIY Dyno first trial run... Ok, so you all looked at the vids of the first two startups of the Sunbeam's newest motor. Well, now here is a third one, made yesterday, that has the run stand coupled to its diy dyno counterpart. This was the first time ever fired up on the dyno and there were lots of questions in my mind. It worked out just fine! The dyno is something I fabricated from scratch using a Jaguar IRS with inboard disk brakes. I even shortened the drive shaft myself. The blue components are water collectors and shields to keep water from going all over the place. Two spray nozzles along side each rotor. Lots of things I might do differently, lots of things to change or improve, but it works! When operating at 2500 rpm, I am able to drop the rpm with just a small change in pressure to the brake master cylinder's push cylinder. And recover the rpm afterwards. I did not try and break anything because the tune is not right. Ok for the load level we were at but not a full boogie run. Plus, if I ran it at full song, I suspect the police would have been there in short order, lol. It barks really loudly, so some turbo mufflers are required... here is the link.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEGXda1cZ8Q mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/lsrvette at yahoo.com