From adin at frontier.net  Sat Nov  3 11:08:45 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 11:08:45 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
Message-ID: <C1307F1DFF1544979E0F3558CFC5C4FA@ZTxp>

Hope everyone is doing well . . .

It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?

http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/

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From neil at dbelltech.com  Sat Nov  3 13:20:11 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 12:20:11 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
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Fast, yes-- but since when does a "street car" need to be towed by an ATV?

Regards, Neil


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Hope everyone is doing well . . .

It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?

http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/

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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Sat Nov  3 14:34:37 2012
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 14:34:37 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
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The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual 
photo cells, just wondering.
Glen
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Subject: [Land-speed] 283?


> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>
> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>
> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>
> David in Durango
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From adin at frontier.net  Sat Nov  3 16:00:02 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 16:00:02 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
References: <C1307F1DFF1544979E0F3558CFC5C4FA@ZTxp>
	<2D0379AA9097406099602FBB359C98CD@GlenPC>
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Ahhhh,  you guys are such doubting tomasinas . . . . .

timed with a wrist watch . . . .

http://www.performancepowerracing.com/wp-content/gallery/ford-gt-world-record-283mph/74g9749.jpg
or something.

At first, I thought this was the Florida mile venue.  Upon reading it was a 
private setup at the NASA facility.

Trust, but verify . . . . . whatever the hell that means.
----- Original Message ----- 
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Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?


> The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual 
> photo cells, just wondering.
> Glen
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> Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
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>> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>>
>> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>>
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>> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>>
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sat Nov  3 17:34:15 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Sat, 03 Nov 2012 16:34:15 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
In-Reply-To: <C1307F1DFF1544979E0F3558CFC5C4FA@ZTxp>
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For sure not a Sunbeam, lol.  I suspect this is the same kind of time 
trials as are at all the other short courses and that timing is done on 
a 132 ft trap at the end.  Just like the exit speed at B'ville.  It 
would be more interesting if they did it the FIA way with a clock 
started like a dragster at the starting line and then at the end with 
the trap to get top speed. That would give average speed for the 
distance as well as top speed.  I think Mickey Thompson had a double 
handful of records doing something like that way back when on an airport 
runway.  Not sure why photo cells would make a difference as to the 
mechanism but any kind of beam breaking would suffice to trigger the 
clocks.  This is not insignificant as anything going 283 mph from a 
standing start in a mile  is going pretty damn fast!

The best part though is you have a Guinness ( is that something you 
drink?...may be necessary to go that fast, for me anyway, lol) record, 
lol... How quaint is that?  Why not bring it to EM and run it?

Not my cuppa tea...

mayf

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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

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> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/

From gary_ellen at q.com  Sat Nov  3 18:03:01 2012
From: gary_ellen at q.com (gary_ellen at q.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 20:03:01 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
In-Reply-To: <2D0379AA9097406099602FBB359C98CD@GlenPC>
Message-ID: <1167425143.539639.1351987381723.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com>

One of the photos shows a Tag Heuer photo cell

Gary 

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Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 2:34:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?

The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual 
photo cells, just wondering.
Glen
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To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?


> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>
> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>
> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Sat Nov  3 18:19:36 2012
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 18:19:36 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
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I was just thinking about the Budweiser rocket at Edwards and the radar 
timing and the delays etc. plus did it in fact
 break the sound barrier.

Glen


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<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?


> One of the photos shows a Tag Heuer photo cell
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
> To: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>, "LandSpeed list" 
> <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 2:34:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
>
> The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual
> photo cells, just wondering.
> Glen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
>
>
>> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>>
>> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>>
>> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
>> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>>
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From neil at dbelltech.com  Sat Nov  3 18:30:54 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 17:30:54 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
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The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how accurate their 
measurement was, though.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

-----Original Message----- 
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:34 PM
To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?

The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual
photo cells, just wondering.
Glen
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From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?


> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>
> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>
> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>
> David in Durango
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From adin at frontier.net  Sat Nov  3 22:25:14 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 22:25:14 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
References: <C1307F1DFF1544979E0F3558CFC5C4FA@ZTxp>
	<2D0379AA9097406099602FBB359C98CD@GlenPC>
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Message-ID: <4122823C959D41699864B1096908235F@ZTxp>

Land speeders:

I shared this 283mph news with some GT40 folks and got this reply:

"Go read the Ford GT forum. These guys are frauds that showed up at an event 
a couple years back with goons and machine guns roaming other pits scaring 
women and children. The numbers they claim are BS. "

I understand Ford GT cars have run 257 at the Texas Mile (lots of witnesses 
and competitors) so the 283 seemed almost believeable.

Sorry for the mis-information.

David




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To: <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>; 
"LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?


> The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how accurate their 
> measurement was, though.
>
> Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:34 PM
> To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
>
> The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or actual
> photo cells, just wondering.
> Glen
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
>
>
>> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
>>
>> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
>>
>> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
>> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
>>
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From mikebrakel at verizon.net  Sun Nov  4 07:37:27 2012
From: mikebrakel at verizon.net (Mike Brakel)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 09:37:27 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
In-Reply-To: <4122823C959D41699864B1096908235F@ZTxp>
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I wonder why they wouldn't want to impress those of us that race one mile
events by racing at ECTA or other one mile events.  If I had something that
fast I'd want to show fast people what it can do, not Guinness.

I wonder if the car could pass tech. at an SCTA or ECTA event?

Just my two cents.

80 Theory
Mike Brakel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David in Durango
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:25 AM
> To: Neil Albaugh; speedtimer at beyondbb.com; LandSpeed list
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
> 
> Land speeders:
> 
> I shared this 283mph news with some GT40 folks and got this reply:
> 
> "Go read the Ford GT forum. These guys are frauds that showed up at an
> event a couple years back with goons and machine guns roaming other pits
> scaring women and children. The numbers they claim are BS. "
> 
> I understand Ford GT cars have run 257 at the Texas Mile (lots of
witnesses
> and competitors) so the 283 seemed almost believeable.
> 
> Sorry for the mis-information.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
> To: <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; "David in Durango"
> <adin at frontier.net>; "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
> 
> 
> > The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how accurate their
> > measurement was, though.
> >
> > Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:34 PM
> > To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list
> > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
> >
> > The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or
> > actual photo cells, just wondering.
> > Glen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> > To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
> > Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
> >
> >
> >> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
> >>
> >> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
> >>
> >> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-
> wor
> >> ld-recor
> >> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
> >>
> >> David in Durango

From wester6935 at comcast.net  Sat Nov  3 23:39:40 2012
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Sat, 3 Nov 2012 23:39:40 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
In-Reply-To: <5095A9F7.9090201@mayfco.com>
References: <C1307F1DFF1544979E0F3558CFC5C4FA@ZTxp>
	<5095A9F7.9090201@mayfco.com>
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The first runs on the salt flats by the Blitzen Benz were timed with the stop
watches of attending spectators.  A flagman at the start and finish  of the
timing trap dropped a flag.

Ab Jenkin's first 24 hour endurance runs on the salt were not certified  by
the AAA because they had not been there to observe the runs.  Ab came back the
next year and did it solo, all over again, with observers.  He drank cold milk
to celebrate.

Wes

On Nov 3, 2012, at 5:34 PM, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:

> For sure not a Sunbeam, lol.  I suspect this is the same kind of time trials
as are at all the other short courses and that timing is done on a 132 ft trap
at the end.  Just like the exit speed at B'ville.  It would be more
interesting if they did it the FIA way with a clock started like a dragster at
the starting line and then at the end with the trap to get top speed. That
would give average speed for the distance as well as top speed.  I think
Mickey Thompson had a double handful of records doing something like that way
back when on an airport runway.  Not sure why photo cells would make a
difference as to the mechanism but any kind of beam breaking would suffice to
trigger the clocks.  This is not insignificant as anything going 283 mph from
a standing start in a mile  is going pretty damn fast!
>
> The best part though is you have a Guinness ( is that something you
drink?...may be necessary to go that fast, for me anyway, lol) record, lol...
How quaint is that?  Why not bring it to EM and run it?
>
> Not my cuppa tea...
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
> On 11/3/2012 10:08 AM, David in Durango wrote:
>>
http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
>> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
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From ed at vetteracing.com  Sun Nov  4 10:24:16 2012
From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy)
Date: Sun, 04 Nov 2012 17:24:16 +0000
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
Message-ID: <W4977510150170021352049856@webmail35>

I looked on the GT Forum and couldn't find anything other than they are not
listed in THEIR 200 mph club.. wrong forum perhaps?
Ed
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From: David in Durango [mailto:adin at frontier.net]
Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 09:25 PM
To: 'Neil Albaugh', speedtimer at beyondbb.com, 'LandSpeed list'
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?

Land speeders: I shared this 283mph news with some GT40 folks and got this
reply: "Go read the Ford GT forum. These guys are frauds that showed up at an
event a couple years back with goons and machine guns roaming other pits
scaring women and children. The numbers they claim are BS. " I understand Ford
GT cars have run 257 at the Texas Mile (lots of witnesses and competitors) so
the 283 seemed almost believeable. Sorry for the mis-information. David -----
Original Message ----- From: "Neil Albaugh" To: ; "David in Durango" ;
"LandSpeed list" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re:
[Land-speed] 283? > The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how
accurate their > measurement was, though. > > Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ > >
-----Original Message----- > From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com > Sent: Saturday,
November 03, 2012 1:34 PM > To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list > Subject:
Re: [Land-speed] 283? > > The question is who and what did they time it with,
was it radar or actual > photo cells, just wondering. > Glen > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: "David in Durango" > To: "LandSpeed list" > Sent:
Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] 283? > > >> Hope
everyone is doing well . . . >> >> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty
fast? >> >>
http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
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From adin at frontier.net  Sun Nov  4 11:00:01 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Sun, 4 Nov 2012 11:00:01 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
References: <W4977510150170021352049856@webmail35>
Message-ID: <3AFAE57D759240588CE6A233F8F2CF49@ZTxp>

Found this thread:
http://www.fordgtforum.com/forums/showthread.php?25857-Performance-power-went
-283-in-the-mile-a-couple-days-ago-kennedy-space-center...-WOW&s=ef36d7ef9c5f
da5147e84b8fb16f56eb

I don't know the real story . . . .


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Ed Van Scoy
  To: David in Durango ; Neil Albaugh ; speedtimer at beyondbb.com ; LandSpeed
list
  Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?


  I looked on the GT Forum and couldn't find anything other than they are not
listed in THEIR 200 mph club.. wrong forum perhaps?
  Ed
    -----Original Message-----
    From: David in Durango [mailto:adin at frontier.net]
    Sent: Saturday, November 3, 2012 09:25 PM
    To: 'Neil Albaugh', speedtimer at beyondbb.com, 'LandSpeed list'
    Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?

    Land speeders: I shared this 283mph news with some GT40 folks and got this
reply: "Go read the Ford GT forum. These guys are frauds that showed up at an
event a couple years back with goons and machine guns roaming other pits
scaring women and children. The numbers they claim are BS. " I understand Ford
GT cars have run 257 at the Texas Mile (lots of witnesses and competitors) so
the 283 seemed almost believeable. Sorry for the mis-information. David -----
Original Message ----- From: "Neil Albaugh" To: ; "David in Durango" ;
"LandSpeed list" Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:30 PM Subject: Re:
[Land-speed] 283? > The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how
accurate their > measurement was, though. > > Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ > >
-----Original Message----- > From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com > Sent: Saturday,
November 03, 2012 1:34 PM > To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list > Subject:
Re: [Land-speed] 283? > > The question is who and what did they time it with,
was it radar or actual > photo cells, just wondering. > Glen > ----- Original
Message ----- > From: "David in Durango" > To: "LandSpeed list" > Sent:
Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] 283? > > >> Hope
everyone is doing well . . . >> >> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty
fast? >> >>
http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-world-recor
>> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/ >> >> David in Durango >> >> >> __________
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From lsr_man at yahoo.com  Mon Nov  5 18:50:41 2012
From: lsr_man at yahoo.com (Dick J)
Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 17:50:41 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
In-Reply-To: <003001cdba99$ea86ae30$bf940a90$@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <1352166641.62013.YahooMailClassic@web162304.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

I've seen a lot of Ford GTs run at the Texas Mile, and they all had to
struggle to get within kissin distance of 200.  The one I remember most was
one that had to be modified, re-modified, and modified a third time (at untold
costs) by the Ford Distributor from Mexico City.  He was bound and determined
to make 200 and it was not as easy as he thought.
283? Not without a whole lot of mods and a big, heathy (unhealthy) shot of
nitrous!
 
Dick J
In East Texas


--- On Sun, 11/4/12, Mike Brakel <mikebrakel at verizon.net> wrote:


From: Mike Brakel <mikebrakel at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
To: "Land Speed Mail List" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Date: Sunday, November 4, 2012, 8:37 AM


I wonder why they wouldn't want to impress those of us that race one mile
events by racing at ECTA or other one mile events.  If I had something that
fast I'd want to show fast people what it can do, not Guinness.

I wonder if the car could pass tech. at an SCTA or ECTA event?

Just my two cents.

80 Theory
Mike Brakel


> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-
> bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David in Durango
> Sent: Sunday, November 04, 2012 12:25 AM
> To: Neil Albaugh; speedtimer at beyondbb.com; LandSpeed list
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
>
> Land speeders:
>
> I shared this 283mph news with some GT40 folks and got this reply:
>
> "Go read the Ford GT forum. These guys are frauds that showed up at an
> event a couple years back with goons and machine guns roaming other pits
> scaring women and children. The numbers they claim are BS. "
>
> I understand Ford GT cars have run 257 at the Texas Mile (lots of
witnesses
> and competitors) so the 283 seemed almost believeable.
>
> Sorry for the mis-information.
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
> To: <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; "David in Durango"
> <adin at frontier.net>; "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 6:30 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
>
>
> > The photos show photocells, Glen. I don't know how accurate their
> > measurement was, though.
> >
> > Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 1:34 PM
> > To: David in Durango ; LandSpeed list
> > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] 283?
> >
> > The question is who and what did they time it with, was it radar or
> > actual photo cells, just wondering.
> > Glen
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David in Durango" <adin at frontier.net>
> > To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:08 AM
> > Subject: [Land-speed] 283?
> >
> >
> >> Hope everyone is doing well . . .
> >>
> >> It is no Sunbeam, but 283mph is pretty fast?
> >>
> >> http://www.performancepowerracing.com/portfolio-view/2012-guiness-
> wor
> >> ld-recor
> >> d-283-232-mph-ppr-badd-gt/
> >>
> >> David in Durango
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From wester6935 at comcast.net  Thu Nov  8 08:47:05 2012
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2012 08:47:05 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Be careful, remember New Orleans
Message-ID: <771B434F-F52E-4533-83BA-8284C79BD91C@comcast.net>

The storm damaged cars may show up on used car lots and on internet sites like
they did after the New Orleans disaster a few years ago.

The one that showed up to race at World of Speed had a brown line painted
around the black body showing the high water mark from the flood waters.  J.
T. Nesbitt and his friends rescued the body that was donated by the owner.

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sun Nov 11 08:50:49 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 07:50:49 -0800
Subject: [Land-speed] Dana 44 Question
Message-ID: <509FC959.9000708@mayfco.com>

I was just sitting here twiddling my thumbs and a burning question came 
to  my mind. Anyone know how much torque a Dana 44 can handle with a 
spool and a very tall set of gears? Is there a ratio higher than 2.88:1?

mayf

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______________________________
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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Nov 13 09:01:18 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 08:01:18 -0800
Subject: [Land-speed] OT: a manifold question, SBF (5.0 size SBF that is)
Message-ID: <50A26ECE.30106@mayfco.com>

Does anyone have experience with the Professional Products EFI manifold, 
P/N 54038?  Fit and finish? Functionality (ie did it perform?).   Also, 
if it is ok, then how about an elbow to put the throttle body to the 
side?  Any thoughts on that?

Thanks in advance!

mayf

-- 
______________________________
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Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

From jpszalay01 at insightbb.com  Tue Nov 13 15:22:08 2012
From: jpszalay01 at insightbb.com (JOHN SZALAY)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:22:08 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Land-speed] Pop Sci Aug 1948 article
In-Reply-To: <2103371386.209293.1352844711587.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <668925778.209557.1352845328571.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>

I have found several articles in various old magazines relating to Land Speed . the latest find is a article 
from Aug 1948 Popular Science magazine with 2 pages on racing at Mojave 


Since the list does not support images, I will be glad to send these pages to anyone that wants them or 
can put them up on a webpage. My own webpages disappeared with AT&T 
right off there are two pages, I have several more clips from other magazines , all articles are LSR related 


Haven't been able to participate in any LSR events for a while due to family illness, but still read & research.. 


If you want these pages , send me an email 


John Szalay ( past USFRA member & ECTA volunteer) Lou, Ky 
jpszalay01 at insightbb.com 

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov 13 15:31:14 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 15:31:14 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Pop Sci Aug 1948 article
In-Reply-To: <668925778.209557.1352845328571.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
References: <668925778.209557.1352845328571.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <50A2CA32.7020705@bradakis.com>

JOHN SZALAY wrote:
> Since the list does not support images, I will be glad to send these pages to anyone that wants them or
> can put them up on a webpage.

Send them to me, and I'll put them on the land-speed forum on Team.Net.

mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov 13 16:26:48 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:26:48 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Pop Sci Aug 1948 article
In-Reply-To: <668925778.209557.1352845328571.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
References: <668925778.209557.1352845328571.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <50A2D738.1030609@bradakis.com>

Have a look:


http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=133


mjb.

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov 13 16:42:09 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 16:42:09 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] And also...
Message-ID: <50A2DAD1.7030904@bradakis.com>

http://www.team.net/forums/viewforum.php?f=12


mjb.

From jpszalay01 at insightbb.com  Tue Nov 13 16:57:54 2012
From: jpszalay01 at insightbb.com (JOHN SZALAY)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:57:54 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Land-speed] those pages
In-Reply-To: <607370304.212043.1352851052729.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <882317076.212047.1352851074326.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>

Mark Bradakis is putting the photos and pages up on the team.net forum.. 


John in Ky 

From adin at frontier.net  Tue Nov 13 17:44:58 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:44:58 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] those pages
References: <882317076.212047.1352851074326.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <82AE2835C4ED47FBB2BB29B91E59F129@ZTxp>

Thank you both!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JOHN SZALAY" <jpszalay01 at insightbb.com>
To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 4:57 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] those pages


> Mark Bradakis is putting the photos and pages up on the team.net forum..
>
>
> John in Ky
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From BWANA343 at aol.com  Tue Nov 13 17:44:50 2012
From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 19:44:50 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Land-speed] Pop Sci Aug 1948 article
Message-ID: <8b5b.6ad1dee2.3dd44382@aol.com>

In a message dated 11/13/2012 6:27:47 PM Eastern Standard Time,  
mark at bradakis.com writes:

http://www.team.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=133
Great stuff !!! 

Thank  You Mark and John !!!
Glen B was about 47 ,  herded the Dinosaurs off track back  then....   
.....

From mark at bradakis.com  Tue Nov 13 17:54:47 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 17:54:47 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] those pages
In-Reply-To: <82AE2835C4ED47FBB2BB29B91E59F129@ZTxp>
References: <882317076.212047.1352851074326.JavaMail.root@md03.insight.synacor.com>
	<82AE2835C4ED47FBB2BB29B91E59F129@ZTxp>
Message-ID: <50A2EBD7.4050602@bradakis.com>

Hopefully I can get the forums fixed soon so that folks can register and 
use them.
Right now new registrations don't work, but older ones do.

It is always something!

mjb.

From david_dymaxion at yahoo.com  Tue Nov 13 19:24:30 2012
From: david_dymaxion at yahoo.com (David Dymaxion)
Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:24:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Land-speed] Futuristic greyhound racing on the Salt Flats
Message-ID: <1352859870.27306.YahooMailNeo@web142303.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Maybe the next land speed class?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDboaDrHGbA

From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Nov 19 16:11:31 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:11:31 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Team.Net
Message-ID: <50AABCA3.6080307@bradakis.com>

The Team.Net email lists are back in operation.  I hope to get the web
pages, like the archives and the mailman interface back soon as well.
And the forums, I still have some of those old photos to post.

Basically what happened is that the SATA controller for the hard drives
began failing thursday night.  I didn't realize this as the errors all
pointed to failures of the disks themselves, one in particular. I spent
a fair bit of effort moving everything to the one disk I thought was
still good, and the server would run for 15, 30, 45 minutes at a time
before wedging with a 150+ load average.

I finally realized the disks themselves were fine and what was causing
the trouble.  I shuffled around some duties among my other machines and
now one is hosting Team.Net.  Can't really say when I can get the Dell
server fixed and move back to it.  It is a faster machine than the temp
server.  I don't think any messages that actually made it to the server
were lost, hopefully no holes in the archives.

So after spending the weekend whacking on computers at least the email
lists are back, and I think I may get to bed a little earlier tonight.
You guys owe me double overtime for all the weekend work!

mjb.

From neil at dbelltech.com  Wed Nov 21 17:41:42 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2012 17:41:42 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] OT: a manifold question,
 SBF (5.0 size SBF  that is)
In-Reply-To: <50A26ECE.30106@mayfco.com>
References: <50A26ECE.30106@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <D293B4377EA24589A691F74825792D30@HP>

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone. Not "Turkey Day".

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ



-----Original Message----- 
From: Larry Mayfield
Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:01 AM
To: land-speed at autox.team.net ; tweecer at yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Land-speed] OT: a manifold question, SBF (5.0 size SBF that is)

Does anyone have experience with the Professional Products EFI manifold,
P/N 54038?  Fit and finish? Functionality (ie did it perform?).   Also,
if it is ok, then how about an elbow to put the throttle body to the
side?  Any thoughts on that?

Thanks in advance!

mayf

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210.779 mph exit speed
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Regards,

Neil Tucson, AZ