From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon May  7 11:52:35 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 10:52:35 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
Message-ID: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>

Couple of questions:
First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind 
that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section 
and holds about 3 gallons?   I am looking for a used one with all the 
fittings to put on an engine run stand.   In ya got one you can part 
with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?

Next question is a general recommendation between two different 
manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol.  I 
have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for  EFI and I used it on my 
306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made 
up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol.  Seemed to work ok. But 
now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr 
with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly 
long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so.  I am 
concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a 
manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments?  I do not 
want to give up HP at any costs, lol.

Ok, laugh machine on full now...

mayf

-- 
______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

From neil at dbelltech.com  Mon May  7 14:28:08 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 13:28:08 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
In-Reply-To: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
References: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <8F99DDE5E85545E7B927817DBD0E2E13@tiger>

Mayf;

How about using a dry sump oil tank for a fuel tank? My Peterson tank is 3 
gallon capacity.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:52 AM
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus 
small fuel cell

> Couple of questions:
> First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind
> that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section
> and holds about 3 gallons?   I am looking for a used one with all the
> fittings to put on an engine run stand.   In ya got one you can part
> with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?
>
> Next question is a general recommendation between two different
> manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol.  I
> have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for  EFI and I used it on my
> 306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made
> up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol.  Seemed to work ok. But
> now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr
> with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly
> long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so.  I am
> concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a
> manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments?  I do not
> want to give up HP at any costs, lol.
>
> Ok, laugh machine on full now...
>
> mayf
>
> -- 
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
> _______________________________________________
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon May  7 14:48:29 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 07 May 2012 13:48:29 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
In-Reply-To: <8F99DDE5E85545E7B927817DBD0E2E13@tiger>
References: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
	<8F99DDE5E85545E7B927817DBD0E2E13@tiger>
Message-ID: <4FA8351D.9040902@mayfco.com>

Am trying to not make up something. One of those small tanks has all the 
fittings and internal plumbing already in place.  I am watching a 
slightly different one on ebay right now, ends at 6 pm.  Maybe I can 
snag it.  Pretty cheap.

Thanks, Neil

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/7/2012 1:28 PM, Neil Albaugh wrote:
> Mayf;
>
> How about using a dry sump oil tank for a fuel tank? My Peterson tank 
> is 3 gallon capacity.
>
> Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:52 AM
> To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a 
> surplus small fuel cell
>
>> Couple of questions:
>> First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind
>> that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section
>> and holds about 3 gallons?   I am looking for a used one with all the
>> fittings to put on an engine run stand.   In ya got one you can part
>> with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?
>>
>> Next question is a general recommendation between two different
>> manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol.  I
>> have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for  EFI and I used it on my
>> 306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made
>> up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol.  Seemed to work ok. But
>> now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr
>> with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly
>> long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so.  I am
>> concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a
>> manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments?  I do not
>> want to give up HP at any costs, lol.
>>
>> Ok, laugh machine on full now...
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> -- 
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>> _______________________________________________
>> Land-speed at autox.team.net
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From yesford at clear.net.nz  Mon May  7 15:51:09 2012
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Tue, 08 May 2012 09:51:09 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
In-Reply-To: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
References: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <45D4B97D0B404D90825753B85D4B332A@HarrisPC>

Hi Larry,
For a small runner manifold I'd use an old Edelbrock Torqer 289. Just had a 
quick check on ebay, there's an orange painted one there in original nick 
for $50 right in sunny SoCal. Be quick just over a day to go.
Cheers mate,
Chris Harris................NZed.

> Couple of questions:
> First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind
> that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section
> and holds about 3 gallons?   I am looking for a used one with all the
> fittings to put on an engine run stand.   In ya got one you can part
> with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?
>
> Next question is a general recommendation between two different
> manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol.  I
> have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for  EFI and I used it on my
> 306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made
> up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol.  Seemed to work ok. But
> now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr
> with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly
> long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so.  I am
> concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a
> manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments?  I do not
> want to give up HP at any costs, lol.
>
> Ok, laugh machine on full now...
>
> may 

From neil at dbelltech.com  Mon May  7 16:15:10 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Mon, 7 May 2012 15:15:10 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
In-Reply-To: <4FA8351D.9040902@mayfco.com>
References: <4FA80BE3.7040703@mayfco.com>
	<8F99DDE5E85545E7B927817DBD0E2E13@tiger> <4FA8351D.9040902@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <568180DBD8A8486187F70580EF979E40@tiger>

Good luck on your bid, Mayf. It should work nicely. Add an anti-tipover
valve.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ


From: Larry Mayfield
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 1:48 PM
To: Neil Albaugh
Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
small fuel cell


Am trying to not make up something. One of those small tanks has all the
fittings and internal plumbing already in place.  I am watching a slightly
different one on ebay right now, ends at 6 pm.  Maybe I can snag it.  Pretty
cheap.

Thanks, Neil

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed
On 5/7/2012 1:28 PM, Neil Albaugh wrote:
  Mayf;

  How about using a dry sump oil tank for a fuel tank? My Peterson tank is 3
gallon capacity.

  Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

  --------------------------------------------------
  From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
  Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:52 AM
  To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
  Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
small fuel cell


    Couple of questions:
    First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind
    that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section
    and holds about 3 gallons?   I am looking for a used one with all the
    fittings to put on an engine run stand.   In ya got one you can part
    with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?

    Next question is a general recommendation between two different
    manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol.  I
    have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for  EFI and I used it on my
    306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made
    up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol.  Seemed to work ok. But
    now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr
    with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly
    long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so.  I am
    concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a
    manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments?  I do not
    want to give up HP at any costs, lol.

    Ok, laugh machine on full now...

    mayf

    --
    ______________________________
    drmayf
    Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
    204.913 mph flying mile
    210.779 mph exit speed
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From NT788 at comcast.net  Mon May  7 20:52:54 2012
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 8 May 2012 02:52:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
 small fuel cell
In-Reply-To: <4FA8351D.9040902@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <1302169099.77282.1336445574156.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Mayf

I think an aluminum intake manifold would be pretty good!

jack



----- Original Message -----


Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a surplus
small fuel cell

Thanks, Neil

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/7/2012 1:28 PM, Neil Albaugh wrote:
> Mayf;
>
> How about using a dry sump oil tank for a fuel tank? My Peterson tank
> is 3 gallon capacity.
>
> Regards, Neil B Tucson, AZ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2012 10:52 AM
> To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Land-speed] Intake manifold question and request for a
> surplus small fuel cell
>
>> Couple of questions:
>> First, any of you have one of those small drag race fuel cells, the kind
>> that sits vertically and is about 8 or 9 inches square in cross section
>> and holds about 3 gallons? B  I am looking for a used one with all the
>> fittings to put on an engine run stand. B  In ya got one you can part
>> with, I pay shipping and cost, natch. Shoot me a note?
>>
>> Next question is a general recommendation between two different
>> manifolds I have for a small block ford. really small block, lol. B I
>> have a Edelbrock Torker II that I modified for B EFI and I used it on my
>> 306 turbo motor. In that case, I figured that flow losses would be made
>> up for by the turbo boost increase knob, lol. B Seemed to work ok. But
>> now this new motor is normally aspirated. I was considering a Victor jr
>> with efi bungs for this motor, but hen again it has large ports, fairly
>> long runners, etc. Made for anything from 302 to 347 cid or so. B I am
>> concerned that port velocities and such will be detrimental with a
>> manifold with large runners like this. Thoughts? Comments? B I do not
>> want to give up HP at any costs, lol.
>>
>> Ok, laugh machine on full now...
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> --
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>> _______________________________________________
>> Land-speed at autox.team.net
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun May 13 12:15:52 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 12:15:52 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Today's NY Times
Message-ID: <4FAFFA58.3010306@bradakis.com>

Articles on Shelby, Breedlove and the Salt Flats.

www.nytimes.com/autos


mjb.

From jolylance at earthlink.net  Sun May 13 14:08:31 2012
From: jolylance at earthlink.net (JOE LANCE)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 16:08:31 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe
Message-ID: <B5CCD62304AD4538B17449B4241AE3B3@josephb4d4bd9f>

o;?

Check this out... a hand-formed all-aluminum Willys Coupe!

It's amazing what some people can do with an English rolling wheel, sheet
metal brake and a lot of skill and knowledge.

No, he is not going to paint it. I love the polished flames! (Look closely)

This is Walt Austinbs aluminum Willys coupe at Jim Hume's shop, south of
Bellingham , Washington .

cid:7A29E9E1B8314387AB6E6A377AC10297 at emachine98e05c

It's got the right stuff under the hood, too!

cid:7DBDD925257D4E7AA175E4B27D908883 at emachine98e05c

The hood scoop has yet to be installed in the photo below.

cid:1CE9126D84F34F5CBEAD3AB70C5B69C2 at emachine98e05c

cid:0178CF34AF7F4C30BD1A9E8B4F1D812E at emachine98e05c

022.jpg

023.jpg

024.jpg

025.jpg

026.jpg

027.jpg

You've got to wonder if any of our old beer & soda can's were lucky enough to
be a part of this one-of-a-kind Willys coupe!

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From 23.weldon at comcast.net  Sun May 13 19:14:52 2012
From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon)
Date: Sun, 13 May 2012 18:14:52 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe
References: <B5CCD62304AD4538B17449B4241AE3B3@josephb4d4bd9f>
Message-ID: <179A8A32A5024F30BE6770BEE1B7438C@edc2750afa5a84>

Joe - Your attachments didn't get into the Landspeed list.
But below are some decent links for anyone interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ih_DBNs1I



http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f6/walt-austin-s-aluminum-willys-coupe-57217/



http://talkhotrods.com/2012/02/talk-hot-rods-find-all-aluminum-willys-coupe/

That car sure is a tour-de-force in aluminum fabrication. .............Ed 
Weldon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JOE LANCE" <jolylance at earthlink.net>
To:<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 1:08 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe
> Check this out... a hand-formed all-aluminum Willys Coupe!

From mike_lackey at yahoo.com  Tue May 15 10:41:18 2012
From: mike_lackey at yahoo.com (Mike Lackey)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 09:41:18 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe
In-Reply-To: <179A8A32A5024F30BE6770BEE1B7438C@edc2750afa5a84>
References: <B5CCD62304AD4538B17449B4241AE3B3@josephb4d4bd9f>
	<179A8A32A5024F30BE6770BEE1B7438C@edc2750afa5a84>
Message-ID: <1337100078.83263.YahooMailNeo@web160601.mail.bf1.yahoo.com>

Wow!  That is very cool!
 
I'll bet that shows up at my local Good Guys show
this year.  I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

-Mike
To:
JOE LANCE <jolylance at earthlink.net>; "LAND SPEED @ AUTOX. TEAM"
<land-speed at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2012 6:14 PM
Subject: Re:
[Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe

Joe - Your attachments didn't get
into the Landspeed list.
But below are some decent links for anyone
interested:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1Ih_DBNs1I
http://www.ssrfanatic.com/forum/f6/walt-austin-s-aluminum-willys-coupe-57217/
http://talkhotrods.com/2012/02/talk-hot-rods-find-all-aluminum-willys-coupe/
That car sure is a tour-de-force in aluminum fabrication. .............Ed
Weldon

----- Original Message ----- From: "JOE LANCE"
<jolylance at earthlink.net>
To:<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, May 13,
2012 1:08 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] An ALL-ALUMINUM Willys Coupe
> Check this
out... a hand-formed all-aluminum Willys Coupe!
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue May 15 15:46:23 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 14:46:23 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
Message-ID: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>

Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on 
it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one 
tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up 
it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer 
tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find 
something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer 
now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on 
light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as 
the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer 
tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked 
on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells 
tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load 
Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?  
Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus 
inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65 
designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill 
trailer tires.

Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme 
know...

mayf

-- 
______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed

From jolylance at earthlink.net  Tue May 15 18:42:44 2012
From: jolylance at earthlink.net (JOE LANCE)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <2EB6A8EA05FD4C82A45DA015E45863FB@josephb4d4bd9f>

Go to Tire Rack (not just their web site)---- call them and talk directly to
one of their experts, I've always had good experiences with them

-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Larry Mayfield
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:46 PM
To: land-speed at autox.team.net
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer

Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on 
it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one 
tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up 
it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer 
tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find 
something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer 
now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on 
light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as 
the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer 
tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked 
on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells 
tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load 
Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?  
Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus 
inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65 
designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill 
trailer tires.

Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme 
know...

mayf

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From kturk at adelphia.net  Tue May 15 18:48:05 2012
From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:48:05 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <03EBC6DE41974F588CDE724808F5049B@KeithTurksPC>

Tire pressure is more important then anything.... the harder the tire the 
less sidewall flex....   So Tires MUST be TRAILER rated and not "LT" 
tires...

We run the Camaro's tires at 65psi  and have quit having tire issues.... ( 
that and I quit over loading the trailer )

K 

From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Tue May 15 18:48:00 2012
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 20:48:00 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <DFCFE4E4-09E8-4AB0-856C-3EFEE7F9E8F3@nancyandjon.org>

Mayf, I wonder what I'm doing wrong -- or everyone but me is doing wrong. . .
In all of the years I've towed a trailer hither and yon across the country --
I've had one tire failure.  And that one was when a tubeless tire (that came
to us on already on the trailer) wasn't tubeless after all but instead had
been tubed instead of properly repaired.  Eventually the stem broke off and
the tire went flat.

The trailer we now use has been going racing to Maxton and Bville for more
than three years -- about 20,000 or so miles total.  There are no big signs of
wear, but also no other problems.  The trailer scales at about 6,000# loaded,
and has electric brakes.  I carefully check tire pressures at least once a
year and the bearings regularly every once in a while.

About the only thing I do that might be unusual - is not drive very fast.  On
the interstate highways sometimes Nancy will wind it up to darn near 66 mph --
I tend to stay a few mph below that.  The tires are trailer tires, by the way,
although they are a L "E".  They're outside right now, and it's about bedtime,
so I won't go look to see the brand -- but these aren't the same ones that
I've had on previous trailers -- with no issues on any of 'em.

Caveat Emptor - but it works for me.

Jon a/k/a SSS



On May 15, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Larry Mayfield wrote:

Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on
it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one
tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up
it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer
tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find
something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer
now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on
light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as
the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer

From landspeed at columbus.rr.com  Tue May 15 19:04:23 2012
From: landspeed at columbus.rr.com (Don McMeekin)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 21:04:23 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <FB193FD8-5173-48C4-BAB9-1B26AA0BCF3C@columbus.rr.com>

Mayf,

I've had the same experience with tires on our trailer when towing to the salt
from Ohio. Every year we stop at some small town in Iowa or Wyoming to look
for a tire or two and it's getting pretty old! Our car and trailer approaches
9000 lbs and puts a good deal of strain on the D rated tires, so we are also
looking for something a little more suitable, that will replace what we have.
I'd like to keep our 15" wheels if possible.

Don

Sent from my iPad

On May 15, 2012, at 5:46 PM, Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com> wrote:

> Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on
> it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one
> tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up
> it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer
> tires period.  I am looking for the ty oldwisdom of the list to help me find
> something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer
> now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on
> light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as
> the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer
> tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked
> on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells
> tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load
> Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?
> Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus
> inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65
> designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill
> trailer tires.
>
> Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme
> know...
>
> mayf
>
> --
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From neil at dbelltech.com  Tue May 15 20:03:59 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:03:59 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger>

How much weight are you towing, Mayf? Check the tire load rating to see if 
you are on the hairy edge or their ratings. My last trailer tires were 
purchased at Costco; they are Greenball tires but not on the race car 
trailer. They are on our MaxxLite 25' travel trailer.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:46 PM
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer

> Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on
> it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one
> tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up
> it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer
> tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find
> something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer
> now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on
> light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as
> the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer
> tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked
> on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells
> tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load
> Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?
> Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus
> inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65
> designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill
> trailer tires.
>
> Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme
> know...
>
> mayf
>
> -- 
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue May 15 20:48:36 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 19:48:36 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
	<8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger>
Message-ID: <4FB31584.2020506@mayfco.com>

Neil, as I just sent a reply to another post...my trailer  is 15800 
capacity tripple axle. I load it to around 10 k.  tires are faithfully 
kept to the highest rating on the side walls. I think Greenball is the 
maker of Towmaster tires.  I think and that may be dangerous, lol.  Been 
a while since my thinker has worked well apparently.   How fast do you tow?

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/15/2012 7:03 PM, Neil Albaugh wrote:
> How much weight are you towing, Mayf? Check the tire load rating to 
> see if you are on the hairy edge or their ratings. My last trailer 
> tires were purchased at Costco; they are Greenball tires but not on 
> the race car trailer. They are on our MaxxLite 25' travel trailer.
>
> Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 2:46 PM
> To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
>
>> Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on
>> it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one
>> tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up
>> it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer
>> tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find
>> something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer
>> now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on
>> light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as
>> the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer
>> tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked
>> on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells
>> tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load
>> Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?
>> Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus
>> inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65
>> designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill
>> trailer tires.
>>
>> Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme
>> know...
>>
>> mayf
>>
>> -- 
>> ______________________________
>> drmayf
>> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
>> 204.913 mph flying mile
>> 210.779 mph exit speed
>> _______________________________________________
>> Land-speed at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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>> Unsubscribe/Manage: 
>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com 

From 23.weldon at comcast.net  Tue May 15 23:55:24 2012
From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 22:55:24 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com><8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger>
	<4FB31584.2020506@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <AC9F886F137A45079DAD3F2080344E52@edc2750afa5a84>

Mayf - Is there any perceivable pattern to which trailer tire locations 
fail?  If so it may be some non-uniform loading on the trailer wheels.  A 
single axle trailer is a simple statics problem.  But add a second axle and 
the statics problem becomes inderterminate influenced by the relative 
"springiness" of every load point.  ...............Ed
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
> Neil, as I just sent a reply to another post...my trailer  is 15800
> capacity tripple axle. I load it to around 10 k.  tires are faithfully
> kept to the highest rating on the side walls. I think Greenball is the
> maker of Towmaster tires.  I think and that may be dangerous, lol.  Been
> a while since my thinker has worked well apparently.   How fast do you 
> tow?> mayf

From gmc6power at earthlink.net  Wed May 16 00:02:00 2012
From: gmc6power at earthlink.net (J.D. Tone)
Date: Tue, 15 May 2012 23:02:00 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>

I want a speed rated tire as well as
> the LR E capability.

After blowing all different brands of D rated tires on my #7000 trailer 
including ones rated at #10,000. I found an E rated which raised my load 
caying capacity to #11,320 (2830 each) I have never had a problem with any 
of them since the change 5 years ago. They are ST-225/75 R15 LRE Part# 
5198221 and can take 80 psi

Now everyone can scream.....They are Carlisles.......Even the place that 
mounted them said "where did you get these"...........Let the horror stories 
begin but I won't be changing them anytime soon.

PS: I tow at 70-75 when no one is 
watching..........................................JD................6 will 
get you #16,980 

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Wed May 16 02:33:11 2012
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 04:33:11 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Re Tires for my Trailer
Message-ID: <D11D1192860D467A8F19C6A2BCB7117D@john>

Mayf

Some LSR guys get used truck tires from tire stores .

> Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on 
> it. Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one 
> tire due to tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up 
> it was two tires.  I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer 
> tires period.  I am looking for the wisdom of the list to help me find 
> something better.  I have 225 75R15 Load Range D tires on the trailer 
> now.  I want to move up to a load range E tire and one that is used on 
> light trucks (ok, pickups, lol).  I want a speed rated tire as well as 
> the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph over teh trailer 
> tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case).  I have looked 
> on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who sells 
> tires.  So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load 
> Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel?  
> Or at worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter?  Or 30 plus 
> inches but with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65 
> designation?  I really want better tires than the run of the mill 
> trailer tires.
> 
> Any help out there? What are all of you running and experience? Lemme 
> know...
> 
> mayf

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed May 16 07:33:16 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:33:16 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <AC9F886F137A45079DAD3F2080344E52@edc2750afa5a84>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com><8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger>
	<4FB31584.2020506@mayfco.com>
	<AC9F886F137A45079DAD3F2080344E52@edc2750afa5a84>
Message-ID: <4FB3AC9C.6070707@mayfco.com>

As mentioned in one post reply, the failures happen in seemingly random 
locations.  Except for the last two. The drivers side middle axle failed 
and I never even knew it, lol. It exploded and sen rubber parts 
everywhere. Then the trailing wheel was found to be bad also when I was 
changing the middle one. It hand not failed but the tread was separating 
from the sidewall at the shoulder. Others have occurred on the P side 
but always singly.  Common factor seems to be the manner of failure and 
that is tread separation at the shoulder of the tire.

When I load the trailer I try and load it somewhat symmetrically.  Motor 
of the car is between the first two axles, etc...

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/15/2012 10:55 PM, 23weldon wrote:
> Mayf - Is there any perceivable pattern to which trailer tire 
> locations fail?  If so it may be some non-uniform loading on the 
> trailer wheels.  A single axle trailer is a simple statics problem.  
> But add a second axle and the statics problem becomes inderterminate 
> influenced by the relative "springiness" of every load point.  
> ...............Ed
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> To: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
> Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
>> Neil, as I just sent a reply to another post...my trailer  is 15800
>> capacity tripple axle. I load it to around 10 k.  tires are faithfully
>> kept to the highest rating on the side walls. I think Greenball is the
>> maker of Towmaster tires.  I think and that may be dangerous, lol.  Been
>> a while since my thinker has worked well apparently.   How fast do 
>> you tow?> mayf

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed May 16 07:35:43 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 06:35:43 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
	<A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>
Message-ID: <4FB3AD2F.8040009@mayfco.com>

JD, Thanks! I will take a look at them.  Was that your comment on the 
top line about wanting a speed rating also?

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/15/2012 11:02 PM, J.D. Tone wrote:
>
> I want a speed rated tire as well as
>> the LR E capability.
>
> After blowing all different brands of D rated tires on my #7000 
> trailer including ones rated at #10,000. I found an E rated which 
> raised my load caying capacity to #11,320 (2830 each) I have never had 
> a problem with any of them since the change 5 years ago. They are 
> ST-225/75 R15 LRE Part# 5198221 and can take 80 psi
>
> Now everyone can scream.....They are Carlisles.......Even the place 
> that mounted them said "where did you get these"...........Let the 
> horror stories begin but I won't be changing them anytime soon.
>
> PS: I tow at 70-75 when no one is 
> watching..........................................JD................6 
> will get you #16,980

From saltrat at pahrump.com  Wed May 16 11:05:38 2012
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 10:05:38 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com><8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger><4FB31584.2020506@mayfco.com><AC9F886F137A45079DAD3F2080344E52@edc2750afa5a84>
	<4FB3AC9C.6070707@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <7BA60B46CA654FF2A55AA0A27807E4E4@yourat5qgaac3z>

I run 16,500 and six Goodyear Marathon, LR E, max pressure on sidewall 
always, 60-65 MPH. Only failures when I run over something and puncture one. 
Stopped having tread separation when I stopped listening to tire shops who 
wanted me to run 50 psi. Also no Chinese tires ever again!!!!

Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net>
Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 06:33
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer


> As mentioned in one post reply, the failures happen in seemingly random
> locations.  Except for the last two. The drivers side middle axle failed
> and I never even knew it, lol. It exploded and sen rubber parts
> everywhere. Then the trailing wheel was found to be bad also when I was
> changing the middle one. It hand not failed but the tread was separating
> from the sidewall at the shoulder. Others have occurred on the P side
> but always singly.  Common factor seems to be the manner of failure and
> that is tread separation at the shoulder of the tire.
>
> When I load the trailer I try and load it somewhat symmetrically.  Motor
> of the car is between the first two axles, etc...
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 5/15/2012 10:55 PM, 23weldon wrote:
>> Mayf - Is there any perceivable pattern to which trailer tire
>> locations fail?  If so it may be some non-uniform loading on the
>> trailer wheels.  A single axle trailer is a simple statics problem.
>> But add a second axle and the statics problem becomes inderterminate
>> influenced by the relative "springiness" of every load point.
>> ...............Ed
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
>> To: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
>> Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
>>> Neil, as I just sent a reply to another post...my trailer  is 15800
>>> capacity tripple axle. I load it to around 10 k.  tires are faithfully
>>> kept to the highest rating on the side walls. I think Greenball is the
>>> maker of Towmaster tires.  I think and that may be dangerous, lol.  Been
>>> a while since my thinker has worked well apparently.   How fast do
>>> you tow?> mayf
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From adin at frontier.net  Wed May 16 11:19:07 2012
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 11:19:07 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com><8D52882268EE4F128606AEE2EA9FA420@tiger><4FB31584.2020506@mayfco.com><AC9F886F137A45079DAD3F2080344E52@edc2750afa5a84>
	<4FB3AC9C.6070707@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <D666B92C95DD46BF8EAF7C5D031C7E1A@ZTxp>

Well, Mayf . . . you've made the top 5 thing to think about when I can't 
sleep!

Do you have any idea of the age of the failed tires?  i.e. How many months 
in sunny P'rump before they fail?

Just thinking a little bit . . . .


David

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net>
Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 7:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer


> As mentioned in one post reply, the failures happen in seemingly random
> locations.  Except for the last two. The drivers side middle axle failed
> and I never even knew it, lol. It exploded and sen rubber parts
> everywhere. Then the trailing wheel was found to be bad also when I was
> changing the middle one. It hand not failed but the tread was separating
> from the sidewall at the shoulder. Others have occurred on the P side
> but always singly.  Common factor seems to be the manner of failure and
> that is tread separation at the shoulder of the tire.
>
> When I load the trailer I try and load it somewhat symmetrically.  Motor
> of the car is between the first two axles, etc...
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 5/15/2012 10:55 PM, 23weldon wrote:
>> Mayf - Is there any perceivable pattern to which trailer tire
>> locations fail?  If so it may be some non-uniform loading on the
>> trailer wheels.  A single axle trailer is a simple statics problem.
>> But add a second axle and the statics problem becomes inderterminate
>> influenced by the relative "springiness" of every load point.
>> ...............Ed
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
>> To: "Neil Albaugh" <neil at dbelltech.com>
>> Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
>>> Neil, as I just sent a reply to another post...my trailer  is 15800
>>> capacity tripple axle. I load it to around 10 k.  tires are faithfully
>>> kept to the highest rating on the side walls. I think Greenball is the
>>> maker of Towmaster tires.  I think and that may be dangerous, lol.  Been
>>> a while since my thinker has worked well apparently.   How fast do
>>> you tow?> mayf
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
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From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed May 16 21:55:21 2012
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 16 May 2012 20:55:21 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
Message-ID: <003601cd33e0$e219e090$a64da1b0$@net>

So Skip . . . what pressure do you use now?  

 

Pretty hard to find a non-specialty tire not made in China. Even the
Goodyear Marathon is now made-to-spec in China. SEMA lobbied for a tariff on
Chinese wheels and tires to protect American tire producers about 2 years
ago. They won on the tires and lost on the wheels. That resulted in an
immediate price increase of $15-$20 for the consumer! Goodyear Marathon's,
that used to be $99 are now about $120, and are made in China. Aluminum
wheels has no tariff. 

 

From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>

(edit . . . ) I stopped listening to tire shops who wanted me to run 50 psi.
Also no Chinese tires ever again!!!!

From saltrat at pahrump.com  Thu May 17 09:37:06 2012
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 08:37:06 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
References: <003601cd33e0$e219e090$a64da1b0$@net>
Message-ID: <34923D407EF846A585FBBADC8960D99D@yourat5qgaac3z>

80 psi cold. Just what it says on the sidewall. I thought I had answered 
this question.....guess not. And they ARE made in China     ^&*(!@#$%
That will teach me to get into conversations...........or is it that the 
conversations teach me???

Skip


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 20:55
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer


> So Skip . . . what pressure do you use now?
>
>
>
> Pretty hard to find a non-specialty tire not made in China. Even the
> Goodyear Marathon is now made-to-spec in China. SEMA lobbied for a tariff 
> on
> Chinese wheels and tires to protect American tire producers about 2 years
> ago. They won on the tires and lost on the wheels. That resulted in an
> immediate price increase of $15-$20 for the consumer! Goodyear Marathon's,
> that used to be $99 are now about $120, and are made in China. Aluminum
> wheels has no tariff.
>
>
>
> From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>
>
> (edit . . . ) I stopped listening to tire shops who wanted me to run 50 
> psi.
> Also no Chinese tires ever again!!!!
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From John.Staiger at StecMotorsports.com  Fri May 18 13:32:39 2012
From: John.Staiger at StecMotorsports.com (John Staiger)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 15:32:39 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
	<A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>
Message-ID: <003c01cd352c$fd1de380$f759aa80$@StecMotorsports.com>

I'm going to throw my two cents in and agree with J.D. & Keith (their posts
are related).  After replacing 7 tires during the Bonneville run of 2009 --
a trip I would care not to repeat, we switched from Goodyear D rated (65psi)
tiers to Towmaster E rated (80psi).  The trailer runs at or above gross
during these trips.  Since tires fail do to heat, putting more air in the
tire cuts down on the flex that causes the problem (heat).  We use a TPMS
system that monitors pressure and heat and since switching, I noticed that
the tire temps dropped 40F during the downhill run through Salt Lake and
across the desert.  This is a pretty big number in my book.  Since
changing/upgrading we have hand no issues.

In the blind-flash-of-the-obvious category... I was fascinated to note that
the tires facing the sun seem to run 10F hotter... but since we go the same
distance in both direction it must work it-self out - right?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J.D. Tone
Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:02 AM
To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer

I want a speed rated tire as well as
> the LR E capability.

After blowing all different brands of D rated tires on my #7000 trailer
including ones rated at #10,000. I found an E rated which raised my load
caying capacity to #11,320 (2830 each) I have never had a problem with any
of them since the change 5 years ago. They are ST-225/75 R15 LRE Part#
5198221 and can take 80 psi

Now everyone can scream.....They are Carlisles.......Even the place that
mounted them said "where did you get these"...........Let the horror stories
begin but I won't be changing them anytime soon.

PS: I tow at 70-75 when no one is
watching..........................................JD................6 will
get you #16,980 _______________________________________________
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From neil at dbelltech.com  Fri May 18 17:52:12 2012
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 16:52:12 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <003c01cd352c$fd1de380$f759aa80$@StecMotorsports.com>
References: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com><A3DCA9E87EAC4170A5268F6EE8346629@mydf7618c59bbf>
	<003c01cd352c$fd1de380$f759aa80$@StecMotorsports.com>
Message-ID: <BCA20EC116D44876814626B01210BD7E@tiger>

...as long as the return trip is not at night, John. :)

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Staiger" <John.Staiger at StecMotorsports.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 12:32 PM
To: "'J.D. Tone'" <gmc6power at earthlink.net>; <drmayf at mayfco.com>; 
<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer

> I'm going to throw my two cents in and agree with J.D. & Keith (their 
> posts
> are related).  After replacing 7 tires during the Bonneville run of 
> 2009 --
> a trip I would care not to repeat, we switched from Goodyear D rated 
> (65psi)
> tiers to Towmaster E rated (80psi).  The trailer runs at or above gross
> during these trips.  Since tires fail do to heat, putting more air in the
> tire cuts down on the flex that causes the problem (heat).  We use a TPMS
> system that monitors pressure and heat and since switching, I noticed that
> the tire temps dropped 40F during the downhill run through Salt Lake and
> across the desert.  This is a pretty big number in my book.  Since
> changing/upgrading we have hand no issues.
>
> In the blind-flash-of-the-obvious category... I was fascinated to note 
> that
> the tires facing the sun seem to run 10F hotter... but since we go the 
> same
> distance in both direction it must work it-self out - right?
>
> John
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J.D. Tone
> Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2012 2:02 AM
> To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
>
> I want a speed rated tire as well as
>> the LR E capability.
>
> After blowing all different brands of D rated tires on my #7000 trailer
> including ones rated at #10,000. I found an E rated which raised my load
> caying capacity to #11,320 (2830 each) I have never had a problem with any
> of them since the change 5 years ago. They are ST-225/75 R15 LRE Part#
> 5198221 and can take 80 psi
>
> Now everyone can scream.....They are Carlisles.......Even the place that
> mounted them said "where did you get these"...........Let the horror 
> stories
> begin but I won't be changing them anytime soon.
>
> PS: I tow at 70-75 when no one is
> watching..........................................JD................6 will
> get you #16,980 _______________________________________________
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From gary_ellen at q.com  Fri May 18 19:41:40 2012
From: gary_ellen at q.com (gary_ellen at q.com)
Date: Fri, 18 May 2012 21:41:40 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <4FB2CEAF.4020609@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <108220403.2126935.1337391700480.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com>

The only guy I know that never has trailer tire problems goes to Les Schwab and buys new tires with fresh date codes every 3-3.5 years. He has a 20+ft haulmark enclosed. He figures he will spend less on tires than it will cost to fix the trailer and car in it after a blowout.

Gary

From saltfever at comcast.net  Sat May 19 13:17:07 2012
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Sat, 19 May 2012 12:17:07 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
In-Reply-To: <mailman.11.1337450403.23989.land-speed@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.11.1337450403.23989.land-speed@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <001501cd35f3$fbfe3b40$f3fab1c0$@net>

Great post, John and thanx!  
I haven't heard of TPMS available on new trailers so I assume you bought an
aftermarket system. I think that is a great idea. Can you tell us the brand
and a little about it? Any hints on why you choose that brand or things to
be considered with trailer use. Does the RF conflict with an OEM TPMS on the
tow vehicle?

From: "John Staiger" (edit . . .) We use a TPMS system that monitors
pressure and heat and since switching, I noticed that the tire temps dropped
40F during the downhill run through Salt Lake and across the desert.  This
is a pretty big number in my book.

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Sun May 20 08:09:19 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 07:09:19 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: Desk Top Computer Question Involving a
 Farkled Win XP Pro OS
In-Reply-To: <4F786A20.508@mayfco.com>
References: <4F786A20.508@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <4FB8FB0F.50303@mayfco.com>

Ya'll remember this? An update: I have actually repaired the computer 
ans i is fully functional again! It was not easy at all.  In on eof he 
trouble shooting steps I went through, I had started the computer in the 
safe mode.  for some reason it had given me three days to activate the 
installation of XP. The it ceased responding to anything. Cannot 
activate if in Safe Mode.  Cannot activate it on line if you cannot get 
past the dead activation. After long searched, I found a sequence which 
let me reset the activation back to 30 days.  Many steps involved to do 
that.  But I was able to finally restart in safe mode with no issues and 
I did that in the command mode which will run the cd drive.  I then put 
the Win XP Pro disk in and it started and ran.  I had it try and do a 
recovery console repair but it needed a reinstall. So I did that but 
wihout over writing the old installation.  I used a new windows file 
folder name for the install and it worked very well.  I now have all of 
my old files, desk top, etc. working again. I did have to reinstall my 
Norton anti virus but that went ok as well.  I am actually amazed, 
lol... I had o reinstall all the updates but that is also done now.  
Life is good!   But, what a chore!

Thanks to everyone who helped. I finally found the answer buried in MS 
on one of their self help forums.

mayf


______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 4/1/2012 7:45 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote:
> Hit delete now unless you are interested in this issue, lol.
>
> I have a hard drive which is in trouble. Out of an older computer I
> have. It uses (used, lol) WIn XP Pro as the OS. It had a serious Trojan
> which denied access to the basic operation of the OS. Unfortunately
> during the attempted repair, I used a version of XP that was not the
> correct version or matching what was in the drive for windows. It is now
> stuck in never never land. When I boot it up, it comes up in Safe mode,
> except that i immediately says this needs to be activated and that it
> can only be activated in the normal start up mode. No matter what is
> done, it always restarts in Safe mode.  Now, I can install another hard
> drive as the primary drive and this drive as the slave and I can start
> the computer and examine the hard drive. In fact, this is how I finally
> got rid of the trojan that was living on it.  I think that if I could
> cripple the OS in the slave drive then I might be able to make it the
> primary then and retry to repair the existing OS by using the repair
> function on the XP set up disk.  Does tis sound like a reasonable
> approach or is ther some other manner to get the system back to a
> stable position where I can reinstall XP?  If I can cripple the OS what
> files do I need to rename or?
>
> Any helkp out there? Please reply off list as nobody else needs to be
> bothered with this.
>
> drmayf at mayfco.com
>
> many thanks hopefully for outstanding suggestions on how to do this!
>
> mayf

From ed at vetteracing.com  Sun May 20 16:44:04 2012
From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 22:44:04 +0000
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer
Message-ID: <W53366283753201337553844@webmail28>

Mayf, like you I got fed up with tire failures on my trailer...... after
blowing ALL FOUR on one El Mirage trip!!! So I broke down and bought some REAL
tires.... Goodyear commercial trailer tires. They are LT 235/85 R16, Load
Range G. 3750 lb rated at 110 lbs min. I run 110 lbs of nitrogen in them (the
nitrogen argument we'll save for another day) and they are re-groovable. That
was 3 years ago and I haven't had a blowout since. They ain't cheap, but
changing tires on the side of the freeway is emotially more expensive.
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Mayfield [mailto:drmayf at mayfco.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 02:46 PM
To: land-speed at autox.team.net
Subject: [Land-speed] Tires for my Trailer

Well, since the day I acquired my trailer, it has had Maxxis tires on it.
Every year to and fro the salt I have had to replace at least one tire due to
tread separation and the shoulder of the tire. last time up it was two tires.
I am unhappy with Maxxis. I am unhappy with trailer tires period. I am looking
for the wisdom of the list to help me find something better. I have 225 75R15
Load Range D tires on the trailer now. I want to move up to a load range E
tire and one that is used on light trucks (ok, pickups, lol). I want a speed
rated tire as well as the LR E capability. I have been known to tow a few mph
over teh trailer tire maker's recommendation (65 mph in the Maxxis case). I
have looked on Tire rack, Discount Tire, and just about everybody else who
sells tires. So, is there anybody out there who is running a LT tire Load
Range E with at least a speed rating of Q, that fits a 15 inch wheel? Or at
worst a 16 inch wheel but under 30 inches in diameter? Or 30 plus inches but
with a lower aspect ratio, i.e. maybe a 70 or 65 designation? I really want
better tires than the run of the mill trailer tires. Any help out there? What
are all of you running and experience? Lemme know... mayf --
______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913
mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed
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From mark at bradakis.com  Sun May 20 21:29:14 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:29:14 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] [Tigers] OFF Topic: Desk Top Computer Question
 Involving a Farkled Win XP Pro OS
In-Reply-To: <4FB8FB0F.50303@mayfco.com>
References: <4F786A20.508@mayfco.com> <4FB8FB0F.50303@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <4FB9B68A.5090000@bradakis.com>

Larry Mayfield wrote:
>
> ans i is fully functional again! It was not easy at all.  In on eof he
>

Keyboard works great!

mjb.

From jdincau at qnet.com  Sun May 20 22:07:25 2012
From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau)
Date: Sun, 20 May 2012 21:07:25 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Wanted
Message-ID: <598F2DD026DA4D66952AD4E84570D95B@denpc>

Rodeck 481T main caps 

From mark at bradakis.com  Mon May 21 09:13:12 2012
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 09:13:12 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] [Tigers] OFF Topic: Desk Top Computer Question
 Involving a Farkled Win XP Pro OS
In-Reply-To: <4FBA5491.9050103@mayfco.com>
References: <4F786A20.508@mayfco.com> <4FB8FB0F.50303@mayfco.com>
	<4FB9B68A.5090000@bradakis.com>
	<26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05101F495@CINMBCNA01.e2k.ad.ge.com>
	<4FBA5491.9050103@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <4FBA5B88.9040407@bradakis.com>

Larry Mayfield wrote:
> And yet another one piles on.... with my tongue firmly in my cheek, I 
> ask, "What's a spell checker?"

Seems to me you'd only need a spell checker if you've upset the neighborhood
witches.

mjb.

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon May 21 09:26:38 2012
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 08:26:38 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] [Tigers] OFF Topic: Desk Top Computer Question
 Involving a Farkled Win XP Pro OS
In-Reply-To: <4FBA5B88.9040407@bradakis.com>
References: <4F786A20.508@mayfco.com> <4FB8FB0F.50303@mayfco.com>
	<4FB9B68A.5090000@bradakis.com>
	<26805228D183EF4E9C6F4499BB55B05101F495@CINMBCNA01.e2k.ad.ge.com>
	<4FBA5491.9050103@mayfco.com> <4FBA5B88.9040407@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <4FBA5EAE.9070604@mayfco.com>

Yeah, I missed that one. could have added witch doctor spells, warlock 
spells, witch spells, VooDoo spells, and so on.  I guess the "spell 
checker" in that case would not only have to know the correct literary 
spelling, but, also the content of the spell itself as to efficacy.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 5/21/2012 8:13 AM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:
> Larry Mayfield wrote:
>> And yet another one piles on.... with my tongue firmly in my cheek, I 
>> ask, "What's a spell checker?"
>
> Seems to me you'd only need a spell checker if you've upset the 
> neighborhood
> witches.
>
> mjb.

From saltfever at comcast.net  Mon May 21 12:46:49 2012
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Mon, 21 May 2012 11:46:49 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Trailer Tires
Message-ID: <003501cd3782$1566fec0$4034fc40$@net>

Ed:

Does that tire take a special heavy duty type rim? 

From v4gmr at yahoo.com  Mon May 28 09:51:24 2012
From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox)
Date: Mon, 28 May 2012 08:51:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Virus
Message-ID: <1338220284.77849.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Don't open any email from me. Rich Fox

From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed May 30 01:08:28 2012
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:08:28 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Virus (Rich Fox)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.13.1338228002.11854.land-speed@autox.team.net>
References: <mailman.13.1338228002.11854.land-speed@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <003d01cd3e33$03bffb60$0b3ff220$@net>

Too late!  I am now making $15,000/ month from home and I only work 2 hrs
per day. 50% of the income is tax sheltered and the rest of it does not have
to be reported according to the companies lawyers. I can now afford a set of
LSR tires.  LOL
----------------------------------
From: Rich Fox <v4gmr at yahoo.com>
Don't open any email from me. Rich Fox

From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed May 30 01:10:00 2012
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 00:10:00 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Virus (Rich Fox)
Message-ID: <003e01cd3e33$3ad8bfb0$b08a3f10$@net>

Too late!  I am now making $15,000/ month from home and I only work 2 hrs
per day. 50% of the income is tax sheltered and the rest of it does not have
to be reported according to the companies lawyers. I can now afford a set of
LSR tires.  LOL

----------------------------------

From: Rich Fox <v4gmr at yahoo.com>

Don't open any email from me. Rich Fox