From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Sep 5 11:51:45 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2011 10:51:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Fiberglass Male Plug Message-ID: <4E650C31.60308@mayfco.com> Gathering up my smarts...from you folk! I am going to make a foam and metal buck or male plug to make a fiberglass mold from which I can make a new nose piece for the Sunbeam. I have seen folk just glass over the plug with out any particular preparations and then wrestle with getting the foam out of the inside. That might work well but it seems to leave a coarser finish on the glass. I think I want to shape the foam and then bondo it to make it smooth, paint it and finish the plug like the exterior I want the nose piece to have. Then I will wax it and then put PVA or another thing parting material on it. Then a gel coat for the ultimate smoothness. The use glass weave and mat to make the female mold. Lots of layers. The before I remove it from the plug, add some stiffening structure to the back side. Remove it from the plug. The remove the plug. Repair any imperfections in the mold with maybe plaster of Paris and re paint it. Then wax and PVA followed by gel coat of my favorite color. When that sets then do the glass work on the inside. Add some ribs and stiffeners on the inside. And then mount it to the car. But, th efirst question is, what kind of bondo or filler goop woudl work best in the kind of application. There seems to be a lot of them. That's prety much the only question I have for now, but more will crop up later I am sure. Any help or thoughts out there? mayf -- drmayf --------------------------------- world's fastest sunbeam. period. Flying mile average: 204.913 mph Top Speed: 210.779 mph From jdincau at qnet.com Mon Sep 5 16:42:30 2011 From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 15:42:30 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Fiberglass Male Plug In-Reply-To: <4E650C31.60308@mayfco.com> References: <4E650C31.60308@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <3E29E50DDEF64930BB0E0F1DA91A1EE9@denpc> Mayf, I have been working on my brothers streamliner body. Since the plug is expendable and you are going to prime and paint over it I would use the cheapest bondo. That is what we did and it worked fine. Jim in Palmdale From joyseydevil at comcast.net Mon Sep 5 20:20:36 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:20:36 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Fiberglass Male Plug Message-ID: Mayf For male mold lay-ups my friend showed me how to fill the weave patern by painting it with epoxy mixed with 50/50 cabosil and glass micro-spheres . One tablespoon of each per 50 grams of epoxy . DA off the lumps first with 36 grit , paint on the mix and DA with 36 & 80 . On his brush he trims the bristles to 3/4" long and superglues the base of bristles so none end up on the surface . > Gathering up my smarts...from you folk! I am going to make a foam and > metal buck or male plug to make a fiberglass mold from which I can make > a new nose piece for the Sunbeam. I have seen folk just glass over the > plug with out any particular preparations and then wrestle with getting > the foam out of the inside. That might work well but it seems to leave a > coarser finish on the glass. I think I want to shape the foam and then > bondo it to make it smooth, paint it and finish the plug like the > exterior I want the nose piece to have. Then I will wax it and then put > PVA or another thing parting material on it. Then a gel coat for the > ultimate smoothness. The use glass weave and mat to make the female > mold. Lots of layers. The before I remove it from the plug, add some > stiffening structure to the back side. Remove it from the plug. The > remove the plug. Repair any imperfections in the mold with maybe > plaster of Paris and re paint it. Then wax and PVA followed by gel coat > of my favorite color. When that sets then do the glass work on the > inside. Add some ribs and stiffeners on the inside. And then mount it > to the car. > > But, th efirst question is, what kind of bondo or filler goop woudl work > best in the kind of application. There seems to be a lot of them. > That's prety much the only question I have for now, but more will crop > up later I am sure. > > Any help or thoughts out there? > > mayf From Johnpatsabel at wmconnect.com Tue Sep 6 08:01:23 2011 From: Johnpatsabel at wmconnect.com (Johnpatsabel at wmconnect.com) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:01:23 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject) Message-ID: <51e6f.152d8a14.3b9781b3@wmconnect.com> Please remove me from your listing. Thanks, John Sabel From Bnibill at wmconnect.com Tue Sep 6 08:48:46 2011 From: Bnibill at wmconnect.com (Bnibill at wmconnect.com) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 10:48:46 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: (no subject) Message-ID: <18786.7e28496c.3b978cce@wmconnect.com> I didn't send this email. It must be fraudulant. 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Thanks, John Sabel _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/bnibill at wmconnect.com From v4gmr at yahoo.com Tue Sep 6 14:58:12 2011 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 13:58:12 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Linked in Message-ID: <1315342692.83216.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Any body gets any thing from these people with my name on it, I don't know who they are or what they are doing. I'm sorry you became involved. I'm sorry I became involved, but not sure how. Rich Fox From jolylance at earthlink.net Tue Sep 6 17:51:51 2011 From: jolylance at earthlink.net (JOE LANCE) Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:51:51 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Linked in In-Reply-To: <1315342692.83216.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1315342692.83216.YahooMailNeo@web39403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: When I had the problem with somebody using my email address to send phony messages, Earthlink recommended that I change my email password---I did and that fixed the problem. Lance -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Fox Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 4:58 PM To: Landspeed list Subject: [Land-speed] Linked in Any body gets any thing from these people with my name on it, I don't know who they are or what they are doing. I'm sorry you became involved. I'm sorry I became involved, but not sure how. Rich Fox _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/jolylance at earthlink.net From saltfever at comcast.net Wed Sep 7 15:42:54 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2011 14:42:54 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Linked in In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <39760E3E71844851B1876AA8EEFD8601@dim8100> Since I am on the digest my email is not real-time. My apologies if this has already been answered. Rich, I guess in an odd way, having a Linked-in contact is a compliment. It is the world's largest organization of professional people. Someone who knows you thought enough about your integrity to initiate the contact. Although, we know better. LOL. It is actually a resume data base and net-working system for professionals, scientist and engineers. While you may consider it spam it is a responsible entity and will unsubscribe you if you accidentally did something or will ignore you if you do the same. -Kirk ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Rich Fox Any body gets any thing from these people with my name on it, I don't know who they are or what they are doing. I'm sorry you became involved. I'm sorry I became involved, but not sure how. Rich Fox From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue Sep 20 20:15:54 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 19:15:54 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline Message-ID: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? Better or worse performance on the salt? Curious... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Tue Sep 20 23:47:39 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 01:47:39 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> References: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <2678C87EC2F34FF3BAD7F893231D2A15@DaveSatellite> The gas at the station at the bend in the road does not qualify as gasoline so what would you guess? If not sealed by the racing fuel distributor of choice it is not gasoline. On a more technical point of view 'gasoline is petroleum based E85 by definition is organic IE plant based by definition. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" To: Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:15 PM Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline > Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? Better or worse performance on the > salt? > > Curious... > > mayf From mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com Wed Sep 21 03:28:05 2011 From: mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com (Meierle, Michael D (Mike)) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 04:28:05 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: <2678C87EC2F34FF3BAD7F893231D2A15@DaveSatellite> References: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> <2678C87EC2F34FF3BAD7F893231D2A15@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: I've Asked Dan Warner before and E85 is considered Fuel. Side note, turbo's like E85 for the alcohols intake charge cooling effect. That is why I was investigating, Mike Meierle Sr Systems Engineer Alcatel-Lucent (614)284-6229 On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:29 AM, "Dave Dahlgren" wrote: > The gas at the station at the bend in the road does not qualify as gasoline > so what would you guess? If not sealed by the racing fuel distributor of > choice it is not gasoline. On a more technical point of view 'gasoline is > petroleum based E85 by definition is organic IE plant based by definition. > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Mayfield" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:15 PM > Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline > > >> Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? Better or worse performance on the >> salt? >> >> Curious... >> >> mayf > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent. com From drmayf at mayfco.com Wed Sep 21 06:48:37 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 05:48:37 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: References: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> <2678C87EC2F34FF3BAD7F893231D2A15@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: <4E79DD25.9090700@mayfco.com> Thanks, Mike. I was going to ask Dan, but he is up with the top speed shootout I think. As you say, it is fuel but I needed to ask anyway. Off my list of fuels now. I will ask Rick gasoline he suggests to meet my motor conditions and configuration. Thanks, everybody mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 9/21/2011 2:28 AM, Meierle, Michael D (Mike) wrote: > I've Asked Dan Warner before and E85 is considered Fuel. Side note, turbo's like E85 for the alcohols intake charge cooling effect. That is why I was investigating, > > Mike Meierle > Sr Systems Engineer > Alcatel-Lucent > (614)284-6229 > > On Sep 21, 2011, at 4:29 AM, "Dave Dahlgren" wrote: > >> The gas at the station at the bend in the road does not qualify as gasoline >> so what would you guess? If not sealed by the racing fuel distributor of >> choice it is not gasoline. On a more technical point of view 'gasoline is >> petroleum based E85 by definition is organic IE plant based by definition. >> Dave >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry Mayfield" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:15 PM >> Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline >> >> >>> Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? Better or worse performance on the >>> salt? >>> >>> Curious... >>> >>> mayf >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com From neill at dbelltech.com Wed Sep 21 09:35:12 2011 From: neill at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 08:35:12 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> References: <4E7948DA.9040905@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <29D9A4864DFB471EB79021B4EFA64265@tiger> Unless you get it from the fuel truck, it is classified as "Fuel", no matter what it is, Mayf. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Larry Mayfield" Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:15 PM To: Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline > Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? Better or worse performance on the > salt? > > Curious... > > mayf > > -- > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed From NT788 at comcast.net Wed Sep 21 10:19:25 2011 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Wed, 21 Sep 2011 16:19:25 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <47253408.1659793.1316621965689.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Side note; I think sealing tanks is ok, but gas should always be checked in impound! This should be the same at all meets! Jack ----- Original Message ----- I've Asked Dan Warner before and E85 is considered Fuel. Side note, turbo's like E85 for the alcohols intake charge cooling effect. That is why I was investigating, > The gas at the station at the bend in the road does not qualify as gasoline > so what would you guess? If not sealed by the racing fuel distributor of > choice it is not gasoline. On a more technical point of view 'gasoline is > petroleum based E85 by definition is organic IE plant based by definition. > Dave > >> Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? B Better or worse performance on the >> salt? >> >> Curious... >> >> mayf > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ From yesford at clear.net.nz Wed Sep 21 20:08:30 2011 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 14:08:30 +1200 Subject: [Land-speed] Lost email Message-ID: Anyone on the list have Keith Turk's current email address please. My last communication was returned. Many thanks, Chris Harris...........NZed Where Spring's in full swing and the lawns covered in dammed Daffodils. From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Thu Sep 22 19:46:14 2011 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:46:14 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline In-Reply-To: <47253408.1659793.1316621965689.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <47253408.1659793.1316621965689.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <377178917E144B36994B3CC6E6CB2167@VAIO> Gee, thanks Jack. More rules and regulations... I watched my buddy have to re-qualify and fight for a record on his bike because of ERC event gasoline 'analysis' in impound. No thanks. We pay a LOT for gasoline and have sealing and scrutineering of tanks, observed refueling and yada yada yada. Enough is enough. If we're going to have gasoline analysis in impound, then do away with event fuel. I like Rick and ERC products and would likely still use them, but I've witnessed gas analysis fiascos first hand and don't want the hassle. Jim Webb Chock Full o' Nuts AA/PP A/PP B/PP C/PP D/PP ?/FL -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of NT788 at comcast.net Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:19 AM To: Michael D Meierle (Mike) Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Land-speed] E85 Gasoline Side note; I think sealing tanks is ok, but gas should always be checked in impound! This should be the same at all meets! Jack ----- Original Message ----- I've Asked Dan Warner before and E85 is considered Fuel. Side note, turbo's like E85 for the alcohols intake charge cooling effect. That is why I was investigating, > The gas at the station at the bend in the road does not qualify as gasoline > so what would you guess? If not sealed by the racing fuel distributor of > choice it is not gasoline. On a more technical point of view 'gasoline is > petroleum based E85 by definition is organic IE plant based by definition. > Dave > >> Does E85 qualify as gasoline or fuel? B Better or worse performance on the >> salt? >> >> Curious... >> >> mayf > _______________________________________________ > _______________________________________________ _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/jimwebb at nutsracing.com From saltfever at comcast.net Thu Sep 22 20:25:59 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 19:25:59 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Keith's address In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I just tried to send him a picture a couple of days ago and the email was returned. I made a request through another source and never heard back. Either Keith is trying to get a life or he doesn't like me. :-) -Kirk From: Chris R Harris Anyone on the list have Keith Turk's current email address please. My last communication was returned. Many thanks, Chris Harris...........NZed From fosterap at flash.net Fri Sep 23 06:10:05 2011 From: fosterap at flash.net (Jerry Foster) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 07:10:05 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash Message-ID: <52E4F15B3FBE43C591A6DD350BC42D4D@blackhp> Speaking of Keith......looks like he and Joe Timney have found a new venue for the ECTA. This site is between Cincinatti(sic) and Columbus. Should draw huge crowds. This is a forward of an email from Jim Price. Jerry in Dallas Subject: ECTA news flash ECTA Will Be Speeding Again On the strength of a 5 to 0 vote, Ohiobs Clinton County Port Authority has approved a proposal by the East Coast Timing Associationbs (ECTA) to hold four or five land speed-racing events at Wilmington Air Park, owned by the Port Authority. Joe Timney and Keith Turk, who own ECTA, spearheaded the pitch for moving the event, which will be held on one of the Air Parkbs unused runways. For fifteen years, ECTA formerly held one-mile land speed racing events at an airfield near Maxton, N.C. and needed to find a new location. The casual atmosphere of their events finds spectators sitting in their own lawn chairs in a safely designated area watching as racers near top speeds around the 250 MPH mark. The local Convention & Visitors Bureau estimated a $2 million economic impact on the local economy in the first year, for the five events, especially effecting hotels and restaurants. The first ECTA event is expected in early 2012 and it should be a bargain with an expected $10 buck ticket. [09/22/11] From neill at dbelltech.com Fri Sep 23 09:24:04 2011 From: neill at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 08:24:04 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash In-Reply-To: <52E4F15B3FBE43C591A6DD350BC42D4D@blackhp> References: <52E4F15B3FBE43C591A6DD350BC42D4D@blackhp> Message-ID: <61A4A35664C84D2FA1263DC32C58AFDB@tiger> Does anyone know how long this runway is? Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Foster" Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:10 AM To: "LSR" Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash > Speaking of Keith......looks like he and Joe Timney have found a new venue > for > the ECTA. This site is between Cincinatti(sic) and Columbus. Should draw > huge crowds. This is a forward of an email from Jim Price. Jerry in > Dallas > > > Subject: ECTA news flash > > > ECTA Will Be Speeding Again > On the strength of a 5 to 0 vote, Ohiobs Clinton County Port Authority > has > approved a proposal by the East Coast Timing Associationbs (ECTA) to hold > four or five land speed-racing events at Wilmington Air Park, owned by the > Port Authority. > > Joe Timney and Keith Turk, who own ECTA, spearheaded the pitch for moving > the > event, which will be held on one of the Air Parkbs unused runways. For > fifteen years, ECTA formerly held one-mile land speed racing events at an > airfield near Maxton, N.C. and needed to find a new location. > > The casual atmosphere of their events finds spectators sitting in their > own > lawn chairs in a safely designated area watching as racers near top speeds > around the 250 MPH mark. The local Convention & Visitors Bureau estimated > a $2 > million economic impact on the local economy in the first year, for the > five > events, especially effecting hotels and restaurants. The first ECTA event > is > expected in early 2012 and it should be a bargain with an expected $10 > buck > ticket. [09/22/11] From dmirror3 at yahoo.com Fri Sep 23 15:21:01 2011 From: dmirror3 at yahoo.com (Dale Krumheuer) Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2011 14:21:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash In-Reply-To: <61A4A35664C84D2FA1263DC32C58AFDB@tiger> Message-ID: <1316812861.99461.YahooMailClassic@web161718.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Google Airborne Airpark : Direction: Feet Meters 4L/22R 10,701 3,262 Concrete 4R/22L 9,000 2,743 Concrete I don't recall if the list can post websites but here is a link http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airborne_Airpark Never mistake knowledge for wisdom. One helps you make a living, the other helps you make a life. ~ Sandra Carey --- On Fri, 9/23/11, Neil Albaugh wrote: From: Neil Albaugh Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash To: "Jerry Foster" , "LSR" Date: Friday, September 23, 2011, 11:24 AM Does anyone know how long this runway is? Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jerry Foster" Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:10 AM To: "LSR" Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: ECTA news flash > Speaking of Keith......looks like he and Joe Timney have found a new venue for > the ECTA. This site is between Cincinatti(sic) and Columbus. Should draw > huge crowds. This is a forward of an email from Jim Price. Jerry in Dallas > > > Subject: ECTA news flash > > > ECTA Will Be Speeding Again > On the strength of a 5 to 0 vote, Ohiobs Clinton County Port Authority has > approved a proposal by the East Coast Timing Associationbs (ECTA) to hold > four or five land speed-racing events at Wilmington Air Park, owned by the > Port Authority. > > Joe Timney and Keith Turk, who own ECTA, spearheaded the pitch for moving the > event, which will be held on one of the Air Parkbs unused runways. For > fifteen years, ECTA formerly held one-mile land speed racing events at an > airfield near Maxton, N.C. and needed to find a new location. > > The casual atmosphere of their events finds spectators sitting in their own > lawn chairs in a safely designated area watching as racers near top speeds > around the 250 MPH mark. The local Convention & Visitors Bureau estimated a $2 > million economic impact on the local economy in the first year, for the five > events, especially effecting hotels and restaurants. The first ECTA event is > expected in early 2012 and it should be a bargain with an expected $10 buck > ticket. [09/22/11] _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dmirror3 at yahoo.com From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Sep 25 08:30:14 2011 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 10:30:14 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] funny Message-ID: <20110925103014.9TU6K.2087963.imail@fed1rmwml33> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=76LbvnoIDkE From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Sep 25 08:39:01 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 07:39:01 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 Message-ID: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> Ok, time for me to ask another really dumb sh*t question. This one concerns crankshafts. I have a crank that I am going o use because the one I have is injured. The counter weights are pretty rough so I plan to buff them down a bit before having it reground. After doing that I said to myself, why not coat it with glyptal, at least on the non journal surfaces. Bu, the collective wisdom of the list is great so I though I better ask... is there a down side to doing this? Seems to me this would help a lot in oil shedding. Thoughts? Experiences? Other better methods? Thanks in advance... mayf -- ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Sep 25 09:21:13 2011 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 11:21:13 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Exhaust Design Message-ID: <20110925112113.SIJG1.2088289.imail@fed1rmwml33> I have learned that I am not a header designer, Does anyone have suggestions for a header designer if I didn't want to use a conventional round tube collector? From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Sun Sep 25 11:15:25 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:15:25 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 In-Reply-To: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> References: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: fits about 0.0000001 to helping anything beyond the simple buff. A dry sump is in the .90000 area. oil shedding and control is all about crankcase pressue or lack of. If the paint sheds off for any reason the engine is toast as well the risk reward ratio is slanted too far in favor of not doing it in my mind. A ground surface is much more slippery than a painted on and the glyptol is for those that would rather paint than grind. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" To: Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 10:39 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 > Ok, time for me to ask another really dumb sh*t question. This one > concerns crankshafts. I have a crank that I am going o use because the > one I have is injured. The counter weights are pretty rough so I plan to > buff them down a bit before having it reground. After doing that I said > to myself, why not coat it with glyptal, at least on the non journal > surfaces. Bu, the collective wisdom of the list is great so I though I > better ask... is there a down side to doing this? Seems to me this would > help a lot in oil shedding. > > Thoughts? Experiences? Other better methods? > > Thanks in advance... > > mayf From saltrat at pahrump.com Sun Sep 25 14:20:32 2011 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:20:32 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 References: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <172B1F73E1184821810BA66340813FAD@yourat5qgaac3z> Knife edging the counterweights to reduce windage is a long standing trick. Might make balancing more difficult tho. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dahlgren" To: ; Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 10:15 Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 > fits about 0.0000001 to helping anything beyond the simple buff. A dry > sump is in the .90000 area. oil shedding and control is all about > crankcase pressue or lack of. If the paint sheds off for any reason the > engine is toast as well the risk reward ratio is slanted too far in favor > of not doing it in my mind. A ground surface is much more slippery than a > painted on and the glyptol is for those that would rather paint than > grind. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Mayfield" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 10:39 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 > > >> Ok, time for me to ask another really dumb sh*t question. This one >> concerns crankshafts. I have a crank that I am going o use because the >> one I have is injured. The counter weights are pretty rough so I plan to >> buff them down a bit before having it reground. After doing that I said >> to myself, why not coat it with glyptal, at least on the non journal >> surfaces. Bu, the collective wisdom of the list is great so I though I >> better ask... is there a down side to doing this? Seems to me this would >> help a lot in oil shedding. >> >> Thoughts? Experiences? Other better methods? >> >> Thanks in advance... >> >> mayf > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltrat at pahrump.com From ulrace at aol.com Sun Sep 25 14:26:36 2011 From: ulrace at aol.com (robert larimore (olmstead)) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 20:26:36 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Invitation to connect on LinkedIn Message-ID: <1668056823.2907388.1316982396745.JavaMail.app@ela4-app0132.prod> I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn. - robert robert larimore (olmstead) owner at coachworks Dayton, Ohio Area Confirm that you know robert larimore (olmstead): https://www.linkedin.com/e/jxi1nw-gt0hbcxy-d/isd/4343149373/E6kAyhN-/?hs=false&tok=2WxYrpRUEaXkU1 -- You are receiving Invitation to Connect emails. Click to unsubscribe: http://www.linkedin.com/e/jxi1nw-gt0hbcxy-d/ARc3GJwACMdxDDNgafNsPFUGnyqxm89fGmKW9hm/goo/land-speed%40autox%2Eteam%2Enet/20061/I1503648270_1/?hs=false&tok=0CBfvU6NAaXkU1 (c) 2011 LinkedIn Corporation. 2029 Stierlin Ct, Mountain View, CA 94043, USA. From b.a.savage at cal.net Sun Sep 25 14:56:28 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 13:56:28 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 In-Reply-To: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> References: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4E7F957C.1050903@cal.net> Oil plus air = disaster. Smokey Y. found that if the oil level was about 3 feet below the crank, the oil was air free, so a dry sump plus a crank case vacuum pump will do the job. If it has to be wet sump, drop the pan as much as possible and put a vacuum pump on the crankcase. Bryan On 9/25/2011 7:39 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, time for me to ask another really dumb sh*t question. This one > concerns crankshafts. I have a crank that I am going o use because the > one I have is injured. The counter weights are pretty rough so I plan to > buff them down a bit before having it reground. After doing that I said > to myself, why not coat it with glyptal, at least on the non journal > surfaces. Bu, the collective wisdom of the list is great so I though I > better ask... is there a down side to doing this? Seems to me this would > help a lot in oil shedding. > > Thoughts? Experiences? Other better methods? > > Thanks in advance... > > mayf From neill at dbelltech.com Sun Sep 25 15:18:26 2011 From: neill at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 14:18:26 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Exhaust Design In-Reply-To: <20110925112113.SIJG1.2088289.imail@fed1rmwml33> References: <20110925112113.SIJG1.2088289.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <521A13FE6E86448A87B7ABB95271993A@tiger> Doug Thorley? Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: Sent: Sunday, September 25, 2011 8:21 AM To: "AA list" Subject: [Land-speed] Exhaust Design > I have learned that I am not a header designer, Does anyone have > suggestions for a header designer if I didn't want to use a conventional > round tube collector? From saltfever at comcast.net Sun Sep 25 17:14:01 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 16:14:01 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 (Larry Mayfield) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I wouldn't touch the counter weights until you are completely certain of your final bob-weight. If you have to add weight to get the crank balanced, that is costly. Essentially, that cheap cast iron you ''cleaned off'' the crank is being added back with very expensive heavy metal out of your wallet. :-) From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Sep 25 20:04:06 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 19:04:06 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Dumb Question #4388 In-Reply-To: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> References: <4E7F3D05.5010207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4E7FDD96.9010306@mayfco.com> Ok, I have had enough fun with this dumb question. But, it is always funny how the question and answers get morphed. I asked about glyptal and that turned into comments on balancing, surface treatments, vacuum pumps and wet sump oiling systems. So, I throw in the towel, lol.... mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 9/25/2011 7:39 AM, Larry Mayfield wrote: > Ok, time for me to ask another really dumb sh*t question. This one > concerns crankshafts. I have a crank that I am going o use because > the one I have is injured. The counter weights are pretty rough so I > plan to buff them down a bit before having it reground. After doing > that I said to myself, why not coat it with glyptal, at least on the > non journal surfaces. Bu, the collective wisdom of the list is great > so I though I better ask... is there a down side to doing this? Seems > to me this would help a lot in oil shedding. > > Thoughts? Experiences? Other better methods? > > Thanks in advance... > > mayf From gary_ellen at q.com Mon Sep 26 08:29:51 2011 From: gary_ellen at q.com (gary_ellen at q.com) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 10:29:51 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Lee Burkey In-Reply-To: <1316183.553212.1317046983618.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: <1153132419.553484.1317047391180.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Lee Carl Burkey, born July 9, 1928 in Ohio, Died September 15 , 2011. He died on the Salt Flats at Bonneville , Utah where he was enjoying an exceptionally beautiful morning with his three boys when he left us. He is survived by his five children which includes two sets of twins, 7 grandchildren and 1 great-grandchild. He served in the Air Force, married Norma Burkey B and raised his family in Yorba Linda, CA. Lee was a retired engineer from Rockwell International. In B 2003 Lee moved to B Pilot Pt. Texas. Lee became a good friend to Don Vesco while living in the Murrieta area of So. Cal. Lee helped design major components for Team Vesco's Turbinator project and served as crew member for Don's team. Lee loved motorcycles, and Bonneville racing. At the age of 73 Lee set a landspeed record on his Suzuki and became a member of the 200 mph Club. Services will be held in Aubrey, Texas on Oct. 1 . The family has asked that donations to Save the Salt may be made in lieu of flowers. Donations can be mailed to: Russ Eyres 3673 Millikin Street San Diego, CA. 92122 Gary & Ellen Wilkinson U.S.F.R.A. From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Mon Sep 26 10:07:48 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 12:07:48 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Lee Burkey In-Reply-To: <1153132419.553484.1317047391180.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> References: <1153132419.553484.1317047391180.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com> Message-ID: God speed Lee may you have fair winds and following seas... Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "autox" Sent: Monday, September 26, 2011 10:29 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Lee Burkey > Lee Carl Burkey, born July 9, 1928 in Ohio, Died September 15 , > 2011. He died on the Salt Flats at Bonneville , Utah where he was > enjoying an exceptionally beautiful morning with his three boys when he > left us. He is survived by his five children which includes two sets of > twins, 7 grandchildren and 1 great-grandchild. He served in the Air > Force, married Norma Burkey B and raised his family in Yorba Linda, CA. > Lee was a retired engineer from Rockwell International. In B 2003 Lee > moved to B Pilot Pt. Texas. Lee became a good friend to Don Vesco while > living in the Murrieta area of So. Cal. Lee helped design major > components for Team Vesco's Turbinator project and served as crew member > for Don's team. Lee loved motorcycles, and Bonneville racing. At the age > of 73 > Lee set a landspeed record on his Suzuki and became a member of the > 200 mph Club. Services will be held in Aubrey, Texas on Oct. 1 . The > family > has asked that donations to Save the Salt may be made in lieu of flowers. > > Donations can be mailed to: > > Russ Eyres > 3673 Millikin Street > San Diego, CA. 92122 > > > > Gary & Ellen Wilkinson > > U.S.F.R.A.