From b.a.savage at cal.net Sat Jul 9 09:52:42 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 08:52:42 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. Message-ID: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> Testing. From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Jul 9 10:54:02 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:54:02 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> Message-ID: <99BFC18452D5439BA4D1FE8E524063C2@GlenPC> works here Bryan Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" To: "List Land Speed" Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 9:52 AM Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. > Testing. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com From 23.weldon at comcast.net Sat Jul 9 11:19:45 2011 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:19:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> Message-ID: <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> Bryan -- We hear you. Others-- Has anyone experiences problems receiving Speedweek "pit pass" badges with their membership packet if membership form was sent in after end of May? Or is just me? Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" To: "List Land Speed" Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:52 AM Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. > Testing. From neil at dbelltech.com Sat Jul 9 11:49:16 2011 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 10:49:16 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> Message-ID: <66C8D245965644ABBF2CE3676121DA7F@tiger> OK, Bryan. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Savage" Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:52 AM To: "List Land Speed" Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. > Testing. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Jul 9 12:42:14 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 12:42:14 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> Message-ID: As far as I know they have not been sent out. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net> To: "Bryan Savage" ; "List Land Speed" Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. > Bryan -- We hear you. > Others-- Has anyone experiences problems receiving Speedweek "pit pass" > badges with their membership packet if membership form was sent in after > end of May? Or is just me? > Ed Weldon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Savage" > To: "List Land Speed" > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:52 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. >> Testing. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com From drmayf at mayfco.com Sat Jul 9 14:06:52 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 13:06:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> Message-ID: <4E18B4DC.1030806@mayfco.com> Nope, me either. I got the card and rule book, nothing else. Not just you... mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 7/9/2011 10:19 AM, 23weldon wrote: > Bryan -- We hear you. > Others-- Has anyone experiences problems receiving Speedweek "pit > pass" badges with their membership packet if membership form was sent > in after end of May? Or is just me? > Ed Weldon > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" > To: "List Land Speed" > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:52 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. >> Testing. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/drmayf at mayfco.com From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org Sat Jul 9 15:53:22 2011 From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 17:53:22 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <4E18B4DC.1030806@mayfco.com> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> <67FE4498889C4AAF9A18F2BED460A3FD@edc2750afa5a84> <4E18B4DC.1030806@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <7DF45D95-D2B4-41C7-91AF-842337585E88@nancyandjon.org> We got our initial mailing - rule book and such - but not a poster. Nothing yet for our SpeedWeek registration. We leave home four weeks from this morning for Wendover. Not much time - in the grand scheme of things. Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:06 PM, Larry Mayfield wrote: Nope, me either. I got the card and rule book, nothing else. Not just you... mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Jul 9 16:43:18 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 16:43:18 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Landracing web site Message-ID: <656176BDAB6542DE9C525C35A5B7B975@GlenPC> The site has been down all day for upgrades and is now back on line. From yesford at clear.net.nz Sat Jul 9 16:49:11 2011 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:49:11 +1200 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> References: <4E18794A.8000007@cal.net> Message-ID: Testing. Hi Bryan, coming in clear 'down under'. While we're here, what's the word on salt conditions for Speedweek people ? Chris H.............NZed. From ed at vetteracing.com Sat Jul 9 20:11:44 2011 From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 02:11:44 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. Message-ID: You are referring to the infamous "tube"? Ed V -----Original Message----- From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com [mailto:speedtimer at beyondbb.com] Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 11:42 AM To: '23weldon', 'Bryan Savage', 'List Land Speed' Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. As far as I know they have not been sent out. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net> To: "Bryan Savage" ; "List Land Speed" Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 11:19 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. > Bryan -- We hear you. > Others-- Has anyone experiences problems receiving Speedweek "pit pass" > badges with their membership packet if membership form was sent in after > end of May? Or is just me? > Ed Weldon > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bryan Savage" > To: "List Land Speed" > Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:52 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. >> Testing. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ed at vetteracing.com From saltfever at comcast.net Sun Jul 10 00:10:49 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2011 23:10:49 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Just a test. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <97E6A06BD0564507AE5394C127CAA238@dim8100> Brian: I have always had a hard time passing any test. I'm afraid to reply!!! :-) Ed: I have never received a "pit pass" in my membership package. I have always had to buy it at the pit trailer when you sign the liability form. -Kirk ------------------------------ From: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net> Bryan -- We hear you. Others-- Has anyone experiences problems receiving Speedweek "pit pass" badges with their membership packet if membership form was sent in after end of May? Or is just me? From b.a.savage at cal.net Sun Jul 10 00:20:13 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2011 23:20:13 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Current salt condition ???? Message-ID: <4E19449D.2000908@cal.net> I've been out of the loop, what is the status of the salt. Last I heard was there was a lot of water. Thanks for your help, Bryan From b.a.savage at cal.net Sun Jul 10 10:36:36 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:36:36 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] Message-ID: <4E19D514.4030402@cal.net> Here's some positive information, Chris. In the past when there has been a lot of water in the winter like last year, the salt conditions are very good the following year. I hope that will be true this year. Bryan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Current salt condition ???? Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:17:08 -0600 From: GLEN BARRETT To: Bryan Savage References: <4E19449D.2000908 at cal.net> Bryan its looking good course workers start set up and dragging tomorrow. Glen From neil at dbelltech.com Sun Jul 10 11:40:15 2011 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:40:15 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] In-Reply-To: <4E19D514.4030402@cal.net> References: <4E19D514.4030402@cal.net> Message-ID: I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Let's hope the salt is hard & dry by Speed Week. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Bryan Savage" Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 9:36 AM To: "Chris Harris" ; "List Land Speed" Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] > Here's some positive information, Chris. > > In the past when there has been a lot of water in the winter like last > year, the salt conditions are very good > the following year. > > I hope that will be true this year. > Bryan > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Current salt condition ???? > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:17:08 -0600 > From: GLEN BARRETT > To: Bryan Savage > References: <4E19449D.2000908 at cal.net> > > > > Bryan its looking good course workers start set up and dragging tomorrow. > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From jdincau at qnet.com Sun Jul 10 14:12:33 2011 From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 13:12:33 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] In-Reply-To: <4E19D514.4030402@cal.net> References: <4E19D514.4030402@cal.net> Message-ID: <24442CC4BD5A48988966DB5B6A65E8BF@denpc> >From the SCTA web site "Speed Week Update Our "prep" crew will NOT leave Southern Calif on Sunday (July10) to begin the layout of the courses for Speedweek. There has been some rain recently, and the salt is too wet to do any course survey. Stay tuned for more details as they become available." > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Current salt condition ???? > Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 09:17:08 -0600 > From: GLEN BARRETT > To: Bryan Savage > References: <4E19449D.2000908 at cal.net> > > > > Bryan its looking good course workers start set up and dragging tomorrow. > Glen From BWANA343 at aol.com Sun Jul 10 17:59:39 2011 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 19:59:39 EDT Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] Message-ID: <2b0dd.3176c3ee.3b4b96eb@aol.com> In a message dated 7/10/2011 2:19:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, neil at dbelltech.com writes: Let's hope the salt is hard & dry by Speed Week. Considering the average age of SW competitors, "hard and dry" on a regular basis is nice, anyplace. From saltrat at pahrump.com Sun Jul 10 21:31:00 2011 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 20:31:00 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] References: <2b0dd.3176c3ee.3b4b96eb@aol.com> Message-ID: Dry?????? Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 16:59 Subject: Re: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] > In a message dated 7/10/2011 2:19:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > neil at dbelltech.com writes: > > Let's hope the salt is hard & dry by Speed > Week. > > > > > Considering the average age of SW competitors, "hard and dry" on a regular > basis is nice, anyplace. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltrat at pahrump.com From BWANA343 at aol.com Mon Jul 11 18:20:04 2011 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:20:04 EDT Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Current salt condition ????] Message-ID: In a message dated 7/10/2011 11:30:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, saltrat at pahrump.com writes: Dry?????? Skip Hi Skip ! I assume by your assertion you are one of those brave souls still wears khaki pants on a regular basis ? Maybe that's another reason Bonneville is so popular with our generation, stuff dries so quickly. " Yeah, I spilled water on myself" , or "I sweat extremely locally, runs down , kinda waterfalls off my gut" BW From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Tue Jul 12 21:12:54 2011 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:12:54 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Salt Conditions, The Thrash is On, and Oh Yeah, Hotel Rooms Message-ID: So we've got an engine on the dyno that should either be ready for installation or recondsiderment by the end of the week. I am forecasting some late night sessions out in the shop in my near future. The timing is just about right since we still have quite a bit to do to button it all up in time to leave south east Texas in early August. Needless to say, we will press on hoping for good salt conditions and will appreciate any posts to the list concerning such. Since we never really know for sure what is going to happen, I haven't reserved much in the way of hotel rooms and SWWNBD likes sleeping in real hotel rooms, I am looking for anyone that might have some extra rooms they are looking to dump. Let me know off line if you've got something to move. Oh, and BTW, is anybody else working on stuff and posting here, or is the list beginning to go quiet??? Hope to see you all on the salt. Jim Webb Chock Full o' Nuts AA/PP A/PP B/PP C/PP D/PP ?/FL From wester6935 at comcast.net Fri Jul 15 08:45:42 2011 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 08:45:42 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: MT References: Message-ID: <97E53A36-5A6E-4EF9-92B3-3620A7ABB351@comcast.net> Begin forwarded message: > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?vb =pClv-XwBVOs&feature=player_emb bedded From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org Fri Jul 15 09:38:49 2011 From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:38:49 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: MT In-Reply-To: <97E53A36-5A6E-4EF9-92B3-3620A7ABB351@comcast.net> References: <97E53A36-5A6E-4EF9-92B3-3620A7ABB351@comcast.net> Message-ID: Wes, something doesn't work about that link. Please try again. Jon a/k/a SSS On Jul 15, 2011, at 10:45 AM, Wester Potter wrote: > Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vb =pClv-XwBVOs&feature=player_emb bedded > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.or g From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Fri Jul 15 12:05:07 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:05:07 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: MT In-Reply-To: <97E53A36-5A6E-4EF9-92B3-3620A7ABB351@comcast.net> References: <97E53A36-5A6E-4EF9-92B3-3620A7ABB351@comcast.net> Message-ID: <916950A46E2F4E59A77EE8291A331876@GlenPC> Other then taking us to U-tube what are we looking for??????? Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" To: "LAND SPEED LIST" Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:45 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: MT > Begin forwarded message: >> >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?vb =pClv-XwBVOs&feature=player_emb bedded > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com From joyseydevil at comcast.net Fri Jul 15 12:57:05 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 14:57:05 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] MT Message-ID: <36F68EABDD3949738CEC44500E6D36C1@john> I goggled , pClv-XwBVOs&feature youtube , to see it . Thanks Wes . John From v4gmr at yahoo.com Fri Jul 15 13:38:15 2011 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 12:38:15 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] MT In-Reply-To: <36F68EABDD3949738CEC44500E6D36C1@john> Message-ID: <1310758695.19073.YahooMailClassic@web39408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> http://www.openwheelracers3.com/On_the_Salt_and_Dry_lake.html --- On Fri, 7/15/11, John Burk wrote: From: John Burk Subject: [Land-speed] MT To: "LandSpeed List" Date: Friday, July 15, 2011, 11:57 AM I goggled , pClv-XwBVOs&feature youtube , to see it . Thanks Wes . John _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/v4gmr at yahoo.com From jgmagoo at comcast.net Fri Jul 15 19:12:14 2011 From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 01:12:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] A Little Problem At 204 MPH>From>JG Magoo Message-ID: <1146487806.34741.1310778734557.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> "Yep, I built her all myself!B She's solid as a rock!" Subject: B A little problem at 204 mph B http://www.wimp.com/whenaccelerating/ From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Sat Jul 16 06:29:26 2011 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 07:29:26 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] A Little Problem At 204 MPH>From>JG Magoo In-Reply-To: <1146487806.34741.1310778734557.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1146487806.34741.1310778734557.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <16513419E4004397920646A5819BCDA9@VAIO> I hate it when that happens. Jim Webb Chock Full o' Nuts AA/PP A/PP B/PP C/PP D/PP ?/FL -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jgmagoo at comcast.net Sent: Friday, July 15, 2011 8:12 PM To: land-speed-digest Subject: [Land-speed] A Little Problem At 204 MPH>From>JG Magoo "Yep, I built her all myself!B She's solid as a rock!" Subject: B A little problem at 204 mph B http://www.wimp.com/whenaccelerating/ _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/jimwebb at nutsracing.com From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Jul 16 11:33:44 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 11:33:44 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products Message-ID: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products are the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and product back to America.JMHO. Glen From adin at frontier.net Sat Jul 16 13:36:15 2011 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 13:36:15 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] help? Message-ID: http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=606045 anyone help this follow w/ some ID or facts? 58 chrysler land speed car. __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6300 (20110716) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 15:04:15 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 17:04:15 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products Message-ID: <0D39CB0687324BD4856F4CF205F77CC0@john> I'll second that one . When somebody takes a big advantage by artificialy distorting their currency exchange rate our government needs to step in and correct it . John >I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products >are > the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are > selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and > product back to America.JMHO. > Glen From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 16:32:48 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 18:32:48 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products In-Reply-To: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> References: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> Message-ID: I think it is called an import tariff.. When the global economy deal started this all started.. The feds are depressing out currency as well to make things we sell chaeper to other countries and that might have been ok if Americans bought american and did more export than import but all they accomplished is to increase the trade defict with cheap US dollars.. I think we need to flush all the current politicians and just start over.. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "land SPEED LIST" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:33 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products >I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products >are > the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are > selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and > product back to America.JMHO. > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From neil at dbelltech.com Sat Jul 16 17:00:12 2011 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 16:00:12 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products In-Reply-To: References: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> Message-ID: Amen, Bro! Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Dave Dahlgren" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 3:32 PM To: ; "land SPEED LIST" Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Chinese products > I think it is called an import tariff.. When the global economy deal > started this all started.. The feds are depressing out currency as well to > make things we sell chaeper to other countries and that might have been ok > if Americans bought american and did more export than import but all they > accomplished is to increase the trade defict with cheap US dollars.. I > think we need to flush all the current politicians and just start over.. > Dave > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "land SPEED LIST" > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 1:33 PM > Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products > > >>I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products >>are >> the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are >> selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and >> product back to America.JMHO. >> Glen >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sat Jul 16 18:48:36 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:48:36 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Test Message-ID: <0EB80C84B3244A2EA4F0806E11E06EB6@john> Test From calkins at camspray.com Sat Jul 16 19:07:34 2011 From: calkins at camspray.com (Justin Calkins) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2011 20:07:34 -0500 (CDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Test In-Reply-To: <0EB80C84B3244A2EA4F0806E11E06EB6@john> References: <0EB80C84B3244A2EA4F0806E11E06EB6@john> Message-ID: <1310864854.374122381@webmail.ecwwebworks.com> Yes sir? -----Original Message----- From: "John Burk" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 7:48pm To: "LandSpeed List" Subject: [Land-speed] Test Test _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/calkins at camspray.com From NT788 at comcast.net Sun Jul 17 11:13:38 2011 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 17:13:38 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products In-Reply-To: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> Message-ID: <1714268156.715940.1310922818640.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> When people get together to make things better, they make it worse! When people drop out and live in a cave, they aren't to happy! People living in a socialist society except it and wish for fascism, and visa versa.People in a capitalist societyB B selfishly succumb to variations of the above!. What we all do very well, is blame every one but ourselves! Jack Burn your credit cards, make a difference! ----- Original Message ----- From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com To: "land SPEED LIST" Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:33:44 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products are the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and product back to America.JMHO. Glen _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net From ronggibson at gmail.com Sun Jul 17 15:21:16 2011 From: ronggibson at gmail.com (Ron Gibson) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:21:16 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products In-Reply-To: <1714268156.715940.1310922818640.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <4744E534127B497A8C10D5377FED5094@GlenPC> <1714268156.715940.1310922818640.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: I bought something the other day and the label said "Made in the USA with Global components". That's still scary and misleading. Ron On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 12:13 PM, wrote: > When people get together to make things better, they make it worse! When > people drop out and live in a cave, they aren't to happy! People living in > a > socialist society except it and wish for fascism, and visa versa.People in > a > capitalist societyB B selfishly succumb to variations of the above!. What > we > all do very well, is blame every one but ourselves! > > Jack > > Burn your credit cards, make a difference! > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com > To: "land SPEED LIST" > Sent: Saturday, July 16, 2011 10:33:44 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products > > I can't believe the junk that the stores sell today. Chinese made products > are > the worst. Can't find anything USA made anymore. Even the food stores are > selling products from them. It's time our government bring the jobs and > product back to America.JMHO. > Glen > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ronggibson at gmail.com From b.a.savage at cal.net Sun Jul 17 16:04:24 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2011 15:04:24 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Chinese products In-Reply-To: <1714268156.715940.1310922818640.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <1714268156.715940.1310922818640.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E235C68.8000200@cal.net> It's all your fault Jack. Bryan NT788 at comcast.net wrote: > When people get together to make things better, they make it worse! When > people drop out and live in a cave, they aren't to happy! People living in a > socialist society except it and wish for fascism, and visa versa.People in a > capitalist societyB B selfishly succumb to variations of the above!. What we > all do very well, is blame every one but ourselves! > > Jack > > Burn your credit cards, make a difference! From bobbyhotrods at comcast.net Mon Jul 18 19:23:42 2011 From: bobbyhotrods at comcast.net (bobbyhotrods at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 01:23:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Fast Message-ID: <1513611290.74576.1311038622698.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> I finally went fast at Loring (F/B Str, 2.3 Ford, iron head, 167 after I had lifted with my glasses getting pushed around). It's been a long journey. Hardly anyone around here knew what I was about . Thanks go to you List guys who have helped a great deal along the way, Rick Byrnes especially. Bobby in Boston From dmirror3 at yahoo.com Mon Jul 18 21:21:37 2011 From: dmirror3 at yahoo.com (Dale Krumheuer) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Fast Message-ID: <1311045697.14668.YahooMailClassic@web161717.mail.bf1.yahoo.com> Bobby: Lessons from a long journey: 167 mph is significantly faster and so much more expensive than 160... Congrats, maintain the low profile. All the best in your pursuit, Dale Cleveland OH Wisdom, the daughter of experience. ~ L. da Vinci --- On Mon, 7/18/11, bobbyhotrods at comcast.net wrote: From: bobbyhotrods at comcast.net Subject: [Land-speed] Fast To: "Landspeed" Date: Monday, July 18, 2011, 9:23 PM I finally went fast at Loring (F/B Str, 2.3 Ford, iron head, 167 after I had lifted with my glasses getting pushed around). It's been a long journey. Hardly anyone around here knew what I was about . Thanks go to you List guys who have helped a great deal along the way, Rick Byrnes especially. Bobby in Boston _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dmirror3 at yahoo.com From ecpurinton at wildblue.net Mon Jul 18 21:42:19 2011 From: ecpurinton at wildblue.net (Ed Purinton) Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:42:19 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: Fast In-Reply-To: References: <1513611290.74576.1311038622698.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ed Purinton Date: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:33 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fast To: bobbyhotrods at comcast.net Beantown Bob, Rest assured that all your gearhead buddies out here in the territories of Western Mass know what you are all about even if your neighbors might not....... All of us were almost as estatic as you when you finally got a just reward for all your time and hard work. Go go Bobby! Ed On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 9:23 PM, wrote: > I finally went fast at Loring (F/B Str, 2.3 Ford, iron head, 167 after I > had lifted with my glasses getting pushed around). > It's been a long journey. > Hardly anyone around here knew what I was about . > Thanks go to you List guys who have helped a great deal along the way, Rick > Byrnes especially. Bobby in Boston > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ecpurinton at wildblue.net From race427 at aol.com Tue Jul 19 21:29:19 2011 From: race427 at aol.com (race427 at aol.com) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2011 23:29:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Out of print Books? Message-ID: <8CE14A4587C467F-CF8-26700@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com> After attending an S&S Cycle VFI class at Ohio Tech College's Power Sport Institute and learning about Alpha-N fuel systems, I have a desire to read the following books to increase my knowledge about this subject matter; Big Twin High Performance Guide V-Twin Tuners Handbook Vol. 1 and 2 These 3 books are out of print, maybe someone on the list has used copies they would be willing to sell? Appreciate all help !! Tony G LI,NY From ed at vetteracing.com Tue Jul 19 22:18:01 2011 From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 04:18:01 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Out of print Books? Message-ID: "google" them.... might find copies for sale. Ed -----Original Message----- From: race427 at aol.com [mailto:race427 at aol.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 08:29 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Out of print Books? After attending an S&S Cycle VFI class at Ohio Tech College's Power Sport Institute and learning about Alpha-N fuel systems, I have a desire to read the following books to increase my knowledge about this subject matter; Big Twin High Performance Guide V-Twin Tuners Handbook Vol. 1 and 2 These 3 books are out of print, maybe someone on the list has used copies they would be willing to sell? Appreciate all help !! Tony G LI,NY _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ed at vetteracing.com From turborick at turborick.com Wed Jul 20 07:26:30 2011 From: turborick at turborick.com (Rick Yacoucci) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 06:26:30 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Out of print Books? In-Reply-To: <8CE14A4587C467F-CF8-26700@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com> References: <8CE14A4587C467F-CF8-26700@webmail-m138.sysops.aol.com> Message-ID: <093801cc46e0$a2cd8ba0$e868a2e0$@com> I laugh when I hear "Harley" and "Performance" in the same sentence. I would try Amazon and Google like Ed said Thanks Rick Yacoucci -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of race427 at aol.com Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 8:29 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Out of print Books? After attending an S&S Cycle VFI class at Ohio Tech College's Power Sport Institute and learning about Alpha-N fuel systems, I have a desire to read the following books to increase my knowledge about this subject matter; Big Twin High Performance Guide V-Twin Tuners Handbook Vol. 1 and 2 These 3 books are out of print, maybe someone on the list has used copies they would be willing to sell? Appreciate all help !! Tony G LI,NY _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/turborick at turborick.com From v4gmr at yahoo.com Wed Jul 20 19:51:35 2011 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 18:51:35 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Life as an old guy Message-ID: <1311213095.68066.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> So on Monday I thought I would make some method of attaching a push board to my new GMC. It has sort of a bumper bolted to some crush thinks, but it is all pretty sturdy and should be great. So I cut out some angled aluminum blocks 1 X 4 X taper from 3/4 to 2 1/2. They bolt on and sandwich the bumper between them and the frame. But the bumper flexes more than I thought it would and they don't end up vertical. No worry. I'll cut some steel brackets to allow for the angle and support the whole board top to bottom. I need a right and a left version. So I saw them out and finish them on the mill. Then I sit down to bolt them to the truck. Naturally I have the right one that I'm trying to bolt to the left side. So I put it down. Pick up the left one and bolt it on. Now I need to move the truck to get a better shot at the right side. Done, and I move my drill motor, bits, wrenches and all to the right side. Where is the bracket? The one I just had. I look for it for 45 minutes and it's getting to dinner time so I decide to pick it up later. .....Tuesday is senior discount day at the market so I have to go grocery shopping and then go up to Norm Rapp's to pick up some change gears to take to Bonneville for Flat Cad. Then I spend 2 hours looking for the bracket. How far could it go? It's got to be right here......Today I had some people coming by to look at the Studebaker Hawk I was selling, so I'm in the garage kind of looking and kind of selling. My neighbor Jay comes over. New, young eyes. And we look for about half an hour. No luck, and I could have made 5 of them by now, so I saw another piece off the tube, lay it out, and cut i rough to shape on the saw. Set it up in the mill and make the first rough cut on the tapered side. Measure it against the existing bracket and begin the finish cut. About 3/4 way through the finish cut I notice the lost bracket laying on the cart with the mill vices and rotary chuck. A good 80 feet from the GMC. It didn't walk here. I must have brought it. But why? Jay and I had agreed that if I made a new one I would find the old one. If there is a God he has a nasty sense of humor. RF From daw1 at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 03:08:44 2011 From: daw1 at comcast.net (Doug) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:08:44 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Life as an old guy In-Reply-To: <1311213095.68066.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1311213095.68066.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Amen. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Fox" To: "Vaughn Warriner" ; "Ronald Gildersleeve" ; "Vancine Clanton" Cc: "Zenor Lukasiewcz" ; "Landspeed list" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2011 9:51 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Life as an old guy > So on Monday I thought I would make some method of attaching a push board > to > my new GMC. It has sort of a bumper bolted to some crush thinks, but it is > all > pretty sturdy and should be great. So I cut out some angled aluminum > blocks 1 > X 4 X taper from 3/4 to 2 1/2. They bolt on and sandwich the bumper > between > them and the frame. But the bumper flexes more than I thought it would and > they don't end up vertical. No worry. I'll cut some steel brackets to > allow > for the angle and support the whole board top to bottom. I need a right > and a > left version. So I saw them out and finish them on the mill. Then I sit > down > to bolt them to the truck. Naturally I have the right one that I'm trying > to > bolt to the left side. So I put it down. Pick up the left one and bolt it > on. > Now I need to move the truck to get a better shot at the right side. Done, > and > I move my drill motor, bits, wrenches and all to the right side. Where is > the > bracket? The one I just had. I look for > it for 45 minutes and it's getting to dinner time so I decide to pick it > up > later. .....Tuesday is senior discount day at the market so I > have > to go grocery shopping and then go up to Norm Rapp's to pick up some > change > gears to take to Bonneville for Flat Cad. Then I spend 2 hours looking for > the > bracket. How far could it go? It's got to be right here......Today I had > some > people coming by to look at the Studebaker Hawk I was selling, so I'm in > the > garage kind of looking and kind of selling. My neighbor Jay comes over. > New, > young eyes. And we look for about half an hour. No luck, and I could have > made > 5 of them by now, so I saw another piece off the tube, lay it out, and cut > i > rough to shape on the saw. Set it up in the mill and make the first rough > cut > on the tapered side. Measure it against the existing bracket and begin the > finish cut. About 3/4 way through the finish cut I notice the lost bracket > laying on the cart with the > mill vices and rotary chuck. A good 80 feet from the GMC. It didn't walk > here. I must have brought it. But why? Jay and I had agreed that if I made > a > new one I would find the old one. If there is a God he has a nasty sense > of > humor. RF > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/daw1 at comcast.net From jdincau at qnet.com Thu Jul 21 06:07:01 2011 From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 05:07:01 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Life as an old guy In-Reply-To: <1311213095.68066.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <1311213095.68066.YahooMailNeo@web39401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <06B13055B9AA4755B4ED2CB1E4F1DAC3@denpc> I can identify with that Rich. I have a six inch scale that I bought when I started my apprenticeship at Lockheed in 1962. I loose it about three times a year under exactly the scenario you describe. I tell you getting old isn't for the weak. Jim From bobbyhotrods at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 06:19:14 2011 From: bobbyhotrods at comcast.net (bobbyhotrods at comcast.net) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 12:19:14 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: <940272661.44545.1311250701061.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> My motor guy was here last week. Together the "where'd it go?" experience increases exponentially I found. I remember following my kid into her room when she was small, she was after something. When she got into her room you could watch her stop and get distracted, all the other toys and whatever about. I think it's like that with me, kind of a "2001, a Space Odyssey" time loop thing happening. From adin at frontier.net Thu Jul 21 07:21:47 2011 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:21:47 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: Well, I've had that in spades. I also had a wife that would "put things away" when I put them down. Salad fork? Bills? Tools? She eventually left me because she couldn't sleep knowing something in my office might be out of place. I still love her dearly - she is a wonderful person. But DANG! Call the vet, we have a sick puppy. Now . . . what wuz I doing? Old, and in the way. Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy > My motor guy was here last week. Together the "where'd it go?" experience > increases exponentially I found. > I remember following my kid into her room when she was small, she was > after something. When she got into her room you could watch her stop and > get distracted, all the other toys and whatever about. I think it's like > that with me, kind of a "2001, a Space Odyssey" time loop thing happening. > _______________________________________________ > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 07:55:54 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:55:54 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <671DE14C8CE1400782137D90EBDB1DAF@DaveSatellite> I had an ex wife that did the same thing with things in the kitchen and she never cooked to speak of me 99% of the time and I like to cook to be honest. Easy fix was to rearrainge her shoes as all lefts and all rights in varying color patterns then mixing and matching her biz suits in combinations I thought 'interesting'.. LOL ----- Original Message ----- From: "David in Durango" To: ; "Landspeed" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:21 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy > Well, I've had that in spades. > I also had a wife that would "put things away" when I put them down. > Salad fork? Bills? Tools? > > She eventually left me because she couldn't sleep knowing something in my > office might be out of place. I still love her dearly - she is a wonderful > person. But DANG! Call the vet, we have a sick puppy. > > Now . . . what wuz I doing? > > Old, and in the way. > > > > > > > > Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy > > >> My motor guy was here last week. Together the "where'd it go?" experience >> increases exponentially I found. >> I remember following my kid into her room when she was small, she was >> after something. When she got into her room you could watch her stop and >> get distracted, all the other toys and whatever about. I think it's like >> that with me, kind of a "2001, a Space Odyssey" time loop thing >> happening. >> _______________________________________________ >> > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From adin at frontier.net Thu Jul 21 08:12:03 2011 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 08:12:03 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <671DE14C8CE1400782137D90EBDB1DAF@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: You ARE the devil's spawn! bwahahahahahaha. I found I could NOT win and let her run rampant until she couldn't stand me anymore. We are both happier now. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dahlgren" To: "David in Durango" ; ; "Landspeed" Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 7:55 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy >I had an ex wife that did the same thing with things in the kitchen and she > never cooked to speak of me 99% of the time and I like to cook to be > honest. > Easy fix was to rearrainge her shoes as all lefts and all rights in > varying > color patterns then mixing and matching her biz suits in combinations I > thought 'interesting'.. LOL > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "David in Durango" > To: ; "Landspeed" > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:21 AM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy > > >> Well, I've had that in spades. >> I also had a wife that would "put things away" when I put them down. >> Salad fork? Bills? Tools? >> >> She eventually left me because she couldn't sleep knowing something in my >> office might be out of place. I still love her dearly - she is a >> wonderful >> person. But DANG! Call the vet, we have a sick puppy. >> >> Now . . . what wuz I doing? >> >> Old, and in the way. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy >> >> >>> My motor guy was here last week. Together the "where'd it go?" >>> experience >>> increases exponentially I found. >>> I remember following my kid into her room when she was small, she was >>> after something. When she got into her room you could watch her stop and >>> get distracted, all the other toys and whatever about. I think it's like >>> that with me, kind of a "2001, a Space Odyssey" time loop thing >>> happening. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 6311 (20110720) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net >> > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 6313 (20110721) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6313 (20110721) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Jul 21 08:16:43 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 07:16:43 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> Huh? I thought it was just me! I swear that, while I don't "lose" stuff, it hides from me! I can go to the shop looking for a doohickey and I just know where it was last. Except, that it isn't there. I rummage through the shop still not finding what I am after. Go back a few hours later and there it is, right where it was supposed to be the first time! It is truly aggravating.... This only happens three or four times a day.... Glad to see that I am not alone in my perplexity... mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 7/21/2011 5:19 AM, bobbyhotrods at comcast.net wrote: > My motor guy was here last week. Together the "where'd it go?" experience increases exponentially I found. > I remember following my kid into her room when she was small, she was after something. When she got into her room you could watch her stop and get distracted, all the other toys and whatever about. I think it's like that with me, kind of a "2001, a Space Odyssey" time loop thing happening. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/drmayf at mayfco.com From 23.weldon at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 10:15:16 2011 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 09:15:16 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <671DE14C8CE1400782137D90EBDB1DAF@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: <5F6F34A747A04D16AE87EBAFA323C841@edc2750afa5a84> Whenever I do a major cleanup in my shop it is like going to a swap meet, discovering all kinds of neat stuff and not having to pay for any of it. Coping ------ I always carry a sharpie pen in my pocket. Everything opaque container or box gets marked with the contents. Swap meets -- Anytime I see a cheap tape measure I buy it. I put one in my pocket in the morning and by noon it has disappeared. Ditto the sharpie pen. I buy boxes of them at Costco. A lot of foods are packed in wide mouth clear plastic jars these days. Clear plastic containers are great because you can see what's inside. The dishwasher cleans them out and usually loosens the labels. Unlike glass jars they usually don't break when dropped. Garden tools -- They all get painted orange for visibility. I keep a detailed calendar. I never had to do that when I was a kid. .I don't have any other to-do lists. Those things are depressing tyrants. I have to write down the names of the friend's and neighbor's kids and pets. Ditto passwords and pin #'s. My old feet don't like new shoes. A stitch-all is a great tool for preserving old shoes. Glad I don't have to go on job interviews any more. Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dahlgren" From yesford at clear.net.nz Thu Jul 21 19:12:42 2011 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 13:12:42 +1200 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: <4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy of everything we have. When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, it'll be returned, exactly as you've all found. Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. Chris Harris..............NZed. > Huh? I thought it was just me! I swear that, while I don't "lose" stuff, > it hides from me! I can go to the shop looking for a doohickey and I just > know where it was last. Except, that it isn't there. I rummage through the > shop still not finding what I am after. Go back a few hours later and > there it is, right where it was supposed to be the first time! It is > truly aggravating.... This only happens three or four times a day.... > > Glad to see that I am not alone in my perplexity... > > mayf From NT788 at comcast.net Thu Jul 21 19:38:08 2011 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 01:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1452056885.39009.1311298688932.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> The way I see it is, when I lost something when I was 18B IB knewB I had years to find it. At 76 I have about a couple of weeks left to find it,B the time is the same, it is just more urgent the older you get! Jack B ----- Original Message ----- Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy of everything we have. When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, it'll be returned, exactly as you've all found. Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. Chris Harris..............NZed. > Huh? I thought it was just me! I swear that, while I don't "lose" stuff, > it hides from me! B I can go to the shop looking for a doohickey and I just > know where it was last. Except, that it isn't there. I rummage through the > shop still not finding what I am after. Go back a few hours later and > there it is, right where it was supposed to be the first time! B It is > truly aggravating.... B This only happens three or four times a day.... > > Glad to see that I am not alone in my perplexity... > > mayf _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Jul 21 20:27:46 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:27:46 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> <4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4E28E022.6020705@mayfco.com> I didn't know that! You learn the strangest things on this infernal machine, this computer.. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 7/21/2011 6:12 PM, Chris R Harris wrote: > Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . > They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy > of everything we have. > When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, > it'll be returned, exactly as you've all found. > Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. > Chris Harris..............NZed. > > >> Huh? I thought it was just me! I swear that, while I don't "lose" >> stuff, it hides from me! I can go to the shop looking for a >> doohickey and I just know where it was last. Except, that it isn't >> there. I rummage through the shop still not finding what I am after. >> Go back a few hours later and there it is, right where it was >> supposed to be the first time! It is truly aggravating.... This >> only happens three or four times a day.... >> >> Glad to see that I am not alone in my perplexity... >> >> mayf From jolylance at earthlink.net Thu Jul 21 20:29:53 2011 From: jolylance at earthlink.net (Joe & Lynne Lance) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:29:53 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <9E70F62783C346B7827502267AD6AFAD@josephb4d4bd9f> Chris; That's the best explanation I've heard to date. But maybe it's bigger than that--maybe they are making copies from more than one world. Sometimes they make a mistake and temporarily send something back to the wrong world after making a copy, that would explain flying saucers, Yetis, Loch Ness monsters, etc. Any evidence they are copying our women ? Lance -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris R Harris Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:13 PM To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy of everything we have. When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, it'll be returned, exactly as you've all found. Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. Chris Harris..............NZed. From race427 at aol.com Thu Jul 21 20:43:19 2011 From: race427 at aol.com (race427 at aol.com) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:43:19 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Fast Harleys and Performance Message-ID: <8CE16303F9E4AA4-1764-C5A2@webmail-m085.sysops.aol.com> Hey List, For those of you who are interested, check out Mike Geokan and Bryan Stock who race the Bonneville Bullet at the Flats!!! Also give a look see at www.rbracing-rsr.com Enjoy !!! Tony G shop teacher on LI,NY From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Jul 21 23:11:28 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 22:11:28 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: <9E70F62783C346B7827502267AD6AFAD@josephb4d4bd9f> References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com> <9E70F62783C346B7827502267AD6AFAD@josephb4d4bd9f> Message-ID: <4E290680.20902@mayfco.com> OMG! It all fits! mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 7/21/2011 7:29 PM, Joe & Lynne Lance wrote: > Chris; > > That's the best explanation I've heard to date. > > But maybe it's bigger than that--maybe they are making copies from more than > one world. Sometimes they make a mistake and temporarily send something > back to the wrong world after making a copy, that would explain flying > saucers, Yetis, Loch Ness monsters, etc. > > Any evidence they are copying our women ? > > Lance > > -----Original Message----- > From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris R Harris > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:13 PM > To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy > > Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . > They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy of > everything we have. > When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, it'll be > returned, exactly as you've all found. > Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. > Chris Harris..............NZed. From adin at frontier.net Thu Jul 21 23:45:41 2011 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2011 23:45:41 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com><9E70F62783C346B7827502267AD6AFAD@josephb4d4bd9f> <4E290680.20902@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <16F9C9F4D490439CA911B1C2E47DF738@ZTxp> Yes, it has been suspected for decades that they arrive on Sunbeams . . . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" To: "Joe & Lynne Lance" Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:11 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy > OMG! It all fits! > > mayf > > ______________________________ > drmayf > Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. > 204.913 mph flying mile > 210.779 mph exit speed > > > On 7/21/2011 7:29 PM, Joe & Lynne Lance wrote: >> Chris; >> >> That's the best explanation I've heard to date. >> >> But maybe it's bigger than that--maybe they are making copies from more >> than >> one world. Sometimes they make a mistake and temporarily send something >> back to the wrong world after making a copy, that would explain flying >> saucers, Yetis, Loch Ness monsters, etc. >> >> Any evidence they are copying our women ? >> >> Lance >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris R Harris >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:13 PM >> To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy >> >> Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian Conspiracy' . >> They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a copy of >> everything we have. >> When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, it'll >> be >> returned, exactly as you've all found. >> Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. >> Chris Harris..............NZed. > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/adin at frontier.net > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri Jul 22 09:21:30 2011 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield) Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2011 08:21:30 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] being an old guy In-Reply-To: <16F9C9F4D490439CA911B1C2E47DF738@ZTxp> References: <829307026.44595.1311250754562.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net><4E2834CB.3090605@mayfco.com><9E70F62783C346B7827502267AD6AFAD@josephb4d4bd9f> <4E290680.20902@mayfco.com> <16F9C9F4D490439CA911B1C2E47DF738@ZTxp> Message-ID: <4E29957A.2070404@mayfco.com> No, I think that is just the weird people coming in Sunbeams...no connection to the Martians who are sending us stuff from displaced alien cultures. mayf ______________________________ drmayf Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. 204.913 mph flying mile 210.779 mph exit speed On 7/21/2011 10:45 PM, David in Durango wrote: > Yes, it has been suspected for decades that they arrive on Sunbeams . > . . . . > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Mayfield" > To: "Joe & Lynne Lance" > Cc: > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy > > >> OMG! It all fits! >> >> mayf >> >> ______________________________ >> drmayf >> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period. >> 204.913 mph flying mile >> 210.779 mph exit speed >> >> >> On 7/21/2011 7:29 PM, Joe & Lynne Lance wrote: >>> Chris; >>> >>> That's the best explanation I've heard to date. >>> >>> But maybe it's bigger than that--maybe they are making copies from >>> more than >>> one world. Sometimes they make a mistake and temporarily send >>> something >>> back to the wrong world after making a copy, that would explain flying >>> saucers, Yetis, Loch Ness monsters, etc. >>> >>> Any evidence they are copying our women ? >>> >>> Lance >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >>> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris R Harris >>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 9:13 PM >>> To: drmayf at mayfco.com; land-speed at autox.team.net >>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] being an old guy >>> >>> Down Under it's a recognized phenomenon called 'The Martian >>> Conspiracy' . >>> They're making a parallel World to ours, hence the need to make a >>> copy of >>> everything we have. >>> When they take an item, don't bother searching. When they're done, >>> it'll be >>> returned, exactly as you've all found. >>> Occasionally a favorite expletive to them speeds the copy process. >>> Chris Harris..............NZed. >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/adin at frontier.net >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 6314 (20110721) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Jul 23 12:54:29 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 12:54:29 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Face book hacking Message-ID: My account was hacked and a lot of poro stuff has been dumped on it as wall as several other accounts. You might want to change your passwords. Glen From saltrat at pahrump.com Sat Jul 23 15:10:31 2011 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (saltrat at pahrump.com) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:10:31 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 Message-ID: <230711204.51015@webbox.com> I have been having trouble keeping the teflon seals in my 8-71. The teflon melts and chunks out of the rotors after about 3 runs at the salt at 18% overdrive on a 430 inch engine. The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter just to be safe. Someone know what is best? Or have an opinion.... Thank you, Skip From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Sat Jul 23 16:36:37 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 18:36:37 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 In-Reply-To: <230711204.51015@webbox.com> References: <230711204.51015@webbox.com> Message-ID: How much boost as that will decribe what the charge air temp is and how much fuel you need to get it cold enough to be ok. I was always under the impression the port nozzles were for triming cylinders rather than supplying the majority of fuel. If it was me I would be thinking 75 to 80% on top and trim with the port nozzles. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 5:10 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 >I have been having trouble keeping the teflon seals in my 8-71. > The teflon melts and chunks out of the rotors after about 3 runs > at the salt at 18% overdrive on a 430 inch engine. > The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say > how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have > 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. > My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter > just to be safe. > > Someone know what is best? Or have an opinion.... > > Thank you, > Skip > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sat Jul 23 22:09:27 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 00:09:27 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 Message-ID: Skip Have you asked about using nylatron strips instead of teflon . >I have been having trouble keeping the teflon seals in my 8-71. > The teflon melts and chunks out of the rotors after about 3 runs > at the salt at 18% overdrive on a 430 inch engine. > The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say > how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have > 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. > My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter > just to be safe. > > Someone know what is best? Or have an opinion.... > > Thank you, > Skip From saltrat at pahrump.com Sun Jul 24 15:43:08 2011 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:43:08 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 References: Message-ID: <31B4B85792754B32900926C23E4E685F@yourat5qgaac3z> Thanks John, I think the strips on the center of the rotor lobe is Nylatron....Black.... The strips on the inside of the rotor are white....I assume Teflon. All of it seems to be melting. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Burk" To: "LandSpeed List" Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 21:09 Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 > Skip > > Have you asked about using nylatron strips instead of teflon . > >>I have been having trouble keeping the teflon seals in my 8-71. >> The teflon melts and chunks out of the rotors after about 3 runs >> at the salt at 18% overdrive on a 430 inch engine. >> The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say >> how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have >> 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. >> My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter >> just to be safe. >> >> Someone know what is best? Or have an opinion.... >> >> Thank you, >> Skip > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltrat at pahrump.com From b.a.savage at cal.net Sun Jul 24 18:41:21 2011 From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 17:41:21 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] [Fwd: Re: Cooling an 8-71] Message-ID: <4E2CBBB1.6080600@cal.net> Water? I know that turbocharged gas motors love it. Bryan -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 14:43:08 -0700 From: Skip Higginbotham To: John Burk , LandSpeed List References: Thanks John, I think the strips on the center of the rotor lobe is Nylatron....Black.... The strips on the inside of the rotor are white....I assume Teflon. All of it seems to be melting. Skip ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Burk" To: "LandSpeed List" Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2011 21:09 Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 > Skip > > Have you asked about using nylatron strips instead of teflon . > >>I have been having trouble keeping the teflon seals in my 8-71. >> The teflon melts and chunks out of the rotors after about 3 runs >> at the salt at 18% overdrive on a 430 inch engine. >> The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say >> how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have >> 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. >> My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter >> just to be safe. >> >> Someone know what is best? Or have an opinion.... >> >> Thank you, >> Skip > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltrat at pahrump.com _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/b.a.savage at cal.net From saltfever at comcast.net Sun Jul 24 23:28:08 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2011 22:28:08 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <4FDDCB7025944F9AA3ACFB96C51D65B5@dim8100> Yeah Skip, it is a perilous problem. Right now you have a very lean mix up there. You know how lean AFR acts . . . lazy, slow-burn, and most likely not ignitable. As you increase the AFR inside the blower you raise the potential for an explosion. IMHO, I would never run a blower near stoich. I would be very far away from stoich (either side, rich or lean). Probably why the shop won't give a quantitative answer. ------------------------------------ . . . The guys at the blower shop say it to be cooler but won't say how much gas needs to go through the blower. Right now I have 15% going through the blower and 85% through the port nozzles. My inclination is to go to 25/75 or 30/60.....maybe the latter just to be safe. Skip From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Mon Jul 25 13:55:01 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 15:55:01 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 In-Reply-To: <4FDDCB7025944F9AA3ACFB96C51D65B5@dim8100> References: <4FDDCB7025944F9AA3ACFB96C51D65B5@dim8100> Message-ID: <224E03E05409469EA7529F0D0CE3C01B@DaveSatellite> If it backfires it is all going to go bang.. Does not matter top or bottom.. They will not give any tuneup info as they do not want any responsibility for whatever happens next.. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirkwood" To: Sent: Monday, July 25, 2011 1:28 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 > Yeah Skip, it is a perilous problem. Right now you have a very lean mix up > there. You know how lean AFR acts . . . lazy, slow-burn, and most likely > not > ignitable. As you increase the AFR inside the blower you raise the > potential > for an explosion. IMHO, I would never run a blower near stoich. I would > be > very far away from stoich (either side, rich or lean). Probably why the > shop > won't give a quantitative answer. From saltfever at comcast.net Tue Jul 26 01:11:05 2011 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:11:05 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling an 8-71 Message-ID: <7D539FF2B27D4D419E927C7BC1850B1E@dim8100> Skip: I doubt your blower shop hasn't already optimized the seal material so this may only be interesting information without application. However, check out the table and compare Polyether ether ketone (PEEK) to most of the nylons. I have machined PEEK for bearings and it is a great material. http://www.machinist-materials.com/comparison_table_for_plastics.htm From rcl500 at msn.com Wed Jul 27 10:54:29 2011 From: rcl500 at msn.com (ROB ERT) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 09:54:29 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] World of Speed USFRA Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover UT September 14-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are planning on making the trip down in September from the Spokane WA area. We will be driving this 1946 Dodge rat truck. I have heard rumors of there not being racing this year. Is that true? We'd hate to make the trip down and back at a cost of around $800 for nothing. Please let me know. Thanks, Rob Leach From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Wed Jul 27 11:16:04 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 13:16:04 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] World of Speed USFRA Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover UT September 14-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Google is your friend.... http://www.saltflats.com/ Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROB ERT" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 12:54 PM Subject: [Land-speed] World of Speed USFRA Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover UT September 14-17 > We are planning on making the trip down in September from the Spokane WA > area. > We will be driving this 1946 Dodge rat truck. I have heard rumors of there > not > being racing this year. Is that true? We'd hate to make the trip down and > back > at a cost of around $800 for nothing. Please let me know. Thanks, Rob > Leach > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Wed Jul 27 11:25:09 2011 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2011 11:25:09 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] World of Speed USFRA Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover UT September 14-17 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: As of now all events are still a go. Speed Week is first starting 8-13 to 19. All event dates are posted on www.landracing.com Usually any changes will be posted as well. Don't stop your plans this early. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROB ERT" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 10:54 AM Subject: [Land-speed] World of Speed USFRA Bonneville Salt Flats, Wendover UT September 14-17 > We are planning on making the trip down in September from the Spokane WA > area. > We will be driving this 1946 Dodge rat truck. I have heard rumors of there > not > being racing this year. Is that true? We'd hate to make the trip down and > back > at a cost of around $800 for nothing. Please let me know. Thanks, Rob > Leach > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Jul 31 07:51:20 2011 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 9:51:20 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Message-ID: <20110731095120.YV6VO.1407494.imail@fed1rmwml33> Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a country In Liberity, Wm. T. Smith '64 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/marco-rubio-takes-on-hypocrisy-of-debt-rhetoric-and-john-kerry/ From NT788 at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 08:51:40 2011 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:51:40 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. In-Reply-To: <20110731095120.YV6VO.1407494.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <678161380.115962.1312123900278.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Stop the wars, flat tax, wage and price freeze and make government rules apply to government employees! W hy is it so hard? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "sparky 2211" To: "AA list" Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:51:20 AM Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a country In Liberity, Wm. T. Smith '64 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/marco-rubio-takes-on-hypocrisy-of-debt-rhetoric-and-john-kerry/ _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net From terryhaines at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 10:12:47 2011 From: terryhaines at comcast.net (Terryv Haines) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 16:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. In-Reply-To: <678161380.115962.1312123900278.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <1698466594.27770.1312128767470.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> B Sounds about right , although I would sayB finish the wars,close the bordersB !! ----- Original Message ----- From: NT788 at comcast.net To: "sparky 2211" Cc: "AA list" Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 7:51:40 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Stop the wars, flat tax, wage and price freeze and make government rules apply to government employees! W hy is it so hard? Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "sparky 2211" To: "AA list" Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:51:20 AM Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a country In Liberity , Wm. T. Smith '64 http :// www . theblaze .com/stories/marco-rubio-takes-on-hypocrisy-of-debt-rhetoric-and-john-kerry/ _______________________________________________ Land-speed@ autox .team.net Donate: http :// www .team.net/donate. html Archive: http :// www .team.net/archive Forums: http :// www .team.net/forums Unsubscribe /Manage: http :// autox .team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net _______________________________________________ Land-speed@ autox .team.net Donate: http :// www .team.net/donate. html Archive: http :// www .team.net/archive Forums: http :// www .team.net/forums Unsubscribe /Manage: http :// autox .team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ terryhaines @comcast.net From 23.weldon at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 12:23:39 2011 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 11:23:39 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. References: <20110731095120.YV6VO.1407494.imail@fed1rmwml33> Message-ID: <47118313182A43D3A344C4DC4174E678@edc2750afa5a84> > "In Liberity", .......... New word? Liberty in Liberal world? I doubt > it was that kind of Freudian slip from Sparky. More like liberty in a world where we have to pay our bills and quit borrowing? It ain't gonna be fun, kiddies..... I know you all can do arithmetic. Like figuring tire size or gear change to get the right rpm at the speed you need to qualify, figuring your cubic inches after the cleanup bore on an engine block or the amount of nitro to add to the mixing jug to add 10% to the mix. If you know how to multiply and divide then certainly you know how to add and subtract. So here you are, 3 mph under the record with your last chance to get in line today and barely enough time to mix up some fuel. There's the jug of nitro staring at you and there you are visualizing pistons with holes in them. ........ And the dark clouds are gathering over the Silver Island Mountains. And your plan B is take down the tarp, cover the race car, batten down the trailer and head for Wendover. Now go look up the real breakdown of the federal budget on the internet, study it for a few minutes and then tell us what you want to cut and where to make it balance and when is a good time to make those tough decisions. It's like whether you want to review your run records, carefully calculate the fuel mix for the next run think about it and wait for the cool air of tomorrow morning. Or simply listen to the smart ass on your crew, the one who doesn't have any financial stake in the race car, who wants to dump the whole jug of nitro into the fuel, say a prayer and go get in line. Ed Weldon From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 13:04:23 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:04:23 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Message-ID: Thanks Sparky . Obama spending any money not to mention the huge defecit without the ok of Congress is a monarchy and in violition of our Constitution . It was his idea to ask for the debt limit extension just as he is nunning out of our money . He must be stopped . > Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly > > Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a > country > > In Liberity, > > Wm. T. Smith '64 From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 15:40:42 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:40:42 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. Message-ID: <238459B074BD445896F89F36A9B023FC@john> Thanks Sparky . Obama spending any money not to mention the huge deficit without the ok of Congress is a monarchy and in violation of our Constitution . It was his idea to ask for the debt limit extension just as he is running out of our money . He must be stopped . > Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly > > Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a > country > > In Liberity, > > Wm. T. Smith '64 From v4gmr at yahoo.com Sun Jul 31 16:10:30 2011 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 15:10:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. In-Reply-To: <47118313182A43D3A344C4DC4174E678@edc2750afa5a84> References: <20110731095120.YV6VO.1407494.imail@fed1rmwml33> <47118313182A43D3A344C4DC4174E678@edc2750afa5a84> Message-ID: <1312150230.51827.YahooMailNeo@web39423.mail.mud.yahoo.com> In the past, if my finances became shaky, I knew that I had to cut spending and maybe work OT or sell something to increase income. I could hope for the lottery. But in truth, I knew I had to spend less and if possible make more. I realize the national economy is not that simple. But I am affraid it's still the only thing that works. If you have waited to long, maybe nothing works. I know my savings is becoming worth less and less at an alarming rate. I can cut back. But not a lot. Not much OT at being retired. RF From: 23weldon <23.weldon at comcast.net> To: sparky.2211 at cox.net Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. > "In Liberity", .......... New word? Liberty in Liberal world? I doubt it was that kind of Freudian slip from Sparky. More like liberty in a world where we have to pay our bills and quit borrowing? It ain't gonna be fun, kiddies..... I know you all can do arithmetic. Like figuring tire size or gear change to get the right rpm at the speed you need to qualify, figuring your cubic inches after the cleanup bore on an engine block or the amount of nitro to add to the mixing jug to add 10% to the mix. If you know how to multiply and divide then certainly you know how to add and subtract. So here you are, 3 mph under the record with your last chance to get in line today and barely enough time to mix up some fuel. There's the jug of nitro staring at you and there you are visualizing pistons with holes in them. ........ And the dark clouds are gathering over the Silver Island Mountains. And your plan B is take down the tarp, cover the race car, batten down the trailer and head for Wendover. Now go look up the real breakdown of the federal budget on the internet, study it for a few minutes and then tell us what you want to cut and where to make it balance and when is a good time to make those tough decisions. It's like whether you want to review your run records, carefully calculate the fuel mix for the next run think about it and wait for the cool air of tomorrow morning. Or simply listen to the smart ass on your crew, the one who doesn't have any financial stake in the race car, who wants to dump the whole jug of nitro into the fuel, say a prayer and go get in line. Ed Weldon _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/v4gmr at yahoo.com From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 16:11:21 2011 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:11:21 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Non Rant Message-ID: Thanks Sparky . Obama spending any money not to mention the huge deficit without the ok of Congress is a monarchy and in violation of our Constitution . It was his idea to ask for the debt limit extension just as he is running out of our money . He must be stopped . John Burk From BWANA343 at aol.com Sun Jul 31 19:07:38 2011 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:07:38 -0400 (EDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Non Rant Message-ID: <39d3d.5dded791.3b67565a@aol.com> Cuts ? Let's see.... '12 million illegal immigrants, 10 million crack heads, 20 million unemployed bums too lazy to work, the entire cast of The Jerry Springer Show, over two million people in all the penal establishments in the US (at $50K @), 2 million leftovers from Katrina, half of Mexico, all of the House of Representatives, most of the Senate, $58 Billion in Foreign aid, 152 military bases in foreign countries, and Michelle Obamabs trip to visit relatives in Africa. And my favorite, and probably a lot of people reading this, Ethanol, the biggest continuing boondoggle in US history. It seems the only real issue is to concede a stall to get all these gasbags past the next election, most notably, King Outtatoucha hisself. End of Rant Back in the garage... BW From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 19:29:49 2011 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 21:29:49 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. In-Reply-To: <678161380.115962.1312123900278.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <678161380.115962.1312123900278.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <3D3614A324AA4E2DB39E33045342249A@DaveSatellite> I can promise a wage and price freeze will not work. Jack I had always thought you wanted less government not more. I think if we give the feds control over prices and wages it is just over period we are officially enslaved.. Closing our borders and sending back illegals would certainly lighten the load financially as well. Revalueing the dollar would reduce our energy costs instantly and just add import tarrifs for all the devalued Chinese stuff if they refuse to correctly value their currency. Currently the dollar is devalued intentionally so some fortune 500 companies are more competitive in export unfortunately that is on the back of every man woman and child in the USA that buys anything.. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "sparky 2211" Cc: "AA list" Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:51 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. > Stop the wars, flat tax, wage and price freeze and make government rules > apply to government employees! W hy is it so hard? > > Jack > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "sparky 2211" > To: "AA list" > Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:51:20 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. > > Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly > > Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a > country > > In Liberity, > > Wm. T. Smith '64 > > > http://www.theblaze.com/stories/marco-rubio-takes-on-hypocrisy-of-debt-rhetoric-and-john-kerry/ > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From 23.weldon at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 19:31:45 2011 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Sun, 31 Jul 2011 18:31:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. References: <20110731095120.YV6VO.1407494.imail@fed1rmwml33> <47118313182A43D3A344C4DC4174E678@edc2750afa5a84> <8DF19F71CEB841908216366D3862D0BA@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: An Allegory About The Emperor And His 300 Million Living Cells There he goes again enjoying the summer warmth in his kingdom. And as has been his habit of late he is butt naked. He likes it that way; his body feels so free. But fear is rising in the community. Cold weather is threatening and if the Emperor gets a chill and falls ill the wrath of the gods will fall upon us. If we speak of his nakedness it will be "off with our heads". All agree that he must be dressed to survive the winds of the coming winter. All agree that a suitable cloak is needed; but Mr. D and Mr. R are the only weavers among us. Mr. R's Teanager, whose help is needed, insists on his own features in the cloak's design or he won't do his part in the weaving and sewing. For many weeks Mr. D and Mr. R have been unable to agree on the cloak's design. Mr. R, by far the best salesman of the group, has got the Emperor's ear and is gradually winning him over to his cloak design. Still, no one dares tell the Emperor that without any clothes he will die of exposure. All they do is hint that a cloak is needed to keep him warm. But right now the Emperor shrugs and replies "What's all this fuss about a cloak to keep me warm. Look at the sun shining. I'm quite comfortable" Through all of this Mr. I, a noted clothier, has been largely silent. And Mr. P, the person whose job is to approve the cloak and present it to the Emperor and try to get him to button it up and wear it properly, stayed out of the argument for a while. But lately Mr. P sees the predicted clouds of winter on the horizon is trying hard to get D and R to get on with the project. And of course R is bitterly blaming P and D for not cooperating. And through all of this everybody is terrified of telling the Emperor the real truth about reality of his nakedness and how much that cloak is going to weigh wrapped around his body. And all seem to have forgotten the issues of fixing the leaks in the palace roof, holes in its walls, the broken chimney over the hearth and build a stock of firewood for the winter. Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dahlgren" To: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net>; "Sparky" From terryhaines at comcast.net Sun Jul 31 20:05:08 2011 From: terryhaines at comcast.net (Terryv Haines) Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 02:05:08 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <1580613656.43933.1312164308520.JavaMail.root@sz0145a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> B B WOW.... Politics on mushrooms.............................................. ----- Original Message ----- From: "23weldon" <23. weldon @comcast.net> To: "Dave Dahlgren " , "Sparky" Cc: " lsr list autox " Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:31:45 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min. An Allegory About The Emperor And His 300 Million Living Cells There he goes again enjoying the summer warmth in his kingdom. B And as has been his habit of late he is butt naked. B He likes it that way; his body feels so free. B But fear is rising in the community. B Cold weather is threatening and if the Emperor gets a chill and falls ill the wrath of the gods will fall upon us. If we speak of his nakedness it will be "off with our heads". B All agree that he must be dressed to survive the winds of the coming winter. B All agree that a suitable cloak is needed; but Mr. B D and Mr. R are the only weavers among us. B Mr. R's Teanager , whose help is needed, insists on his own features in the cloak's design or he won't do his part in the weaving and sewing. B For many weeks Mr. D and Mr. R have been unable to agree on the cloak's design. B Mr. R, by far the best salesman of the group, B has got the Emperor's ear and is gradually winning him over to his cloak design. Still, no one dares tell the Emperor that without any clothes he will die of exposure. B All they do is hint that a cloak is needed to keep him warm. B But right now the Emperor shrugs and replies "What's all this fuss about a cloak to keep me warm. B Look at the sun shining. B I'm quite comfortable" Through all of this Mr. I, a noted clothier, has been largely silent. B And Mr. P, the person whose job is to approve the cloak and present it to the Emperor and try to get him to button it up and wear it properly, stayed out of the argument for a while. B But lately Mr. P sees the predicted clouds of winter on the horizon is trying hard to get D and R to get on with the project. B And of course R is bitterly blaming P and D for not cooperating. And through all of this everybody is terrified of telling the Emperor the real truth about reality of his nakedness and how much that cloak is going to weigh wrapped around his body. And all seem to have forgotten the issues of fixing the leaks in the palace roof, holes in its walls, the broken chimney over the hearth and build a stock of firewood for the winter. Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Dahlgren " To: "23weldon" <23. weldon @comcast.net>; "Sparky" _______________________________________________ Land-speed@ autox .team.net Donate: http :// www .team.net/donate. html Archive: http :// www .team.net/archive Forums: http :// www .team.net/forums Unsubscribe /Manage: http :// autox .team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ terryhaines @comcast.net