From dwright at genetics.utah.edu  Mon Aug  1 09:22:25 2011
From: dwright at genetics.utah.edu (Dan Wright)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:22:25 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
Message-ID: <CACA6BF13836AF4CA0C40492599D7CF60178586F54BD@m2.hg.genetics.utah.edu>

And you guys wonder what killed this list?

From NT788 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 09:31:54 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:31:54 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min.
In-Reply-To: <3D3614A324AA4E2DB39E33045342249A@DaveSatellite>
Message-ID: <1517254382.10493.1312212714833.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

So we exist and enjoy all the social plans like income tax, social secrity,
medicare hmo's 401k's and complain about more of the same!B I have never seen
any goverment repeal anything and stop inflation. Would you accept a governent
that thought just like you?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net>
To: NT788 at comcast.net, "sparky 2211" <sparky.2211 at cox.net>
Cc: "AA list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:29:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min.

I can promise a wage and price freeze will not work. Jack I had always
thought you wanted less government not more. I think if we give the feds
control over prices and wages it is just over period we are officially
enslaved.. Closing our borders and sending back illegals would certainly
lighten the load financially as well. Revalueing the dollar would reduce our
energy costs instantly and just add import tarrifs for all the devalued
Chinese stuff if they refuse to correctly value their currency. Currently
the dollar is devalued intentionally so some fortune 500 companies are more
competitive in export unfortunately that is on the back of every man woman
and child in the USA that buys anything..
----- Original Message -----
From: <NT788 at comcast.net>
To: "sparky 2211" <sparky.2211 at cox.net>
Cc: "AA list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 10:51 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min.


> Stop the wars, flat tax, wage and price freeze and make government rules
> apply to government employees! W hy is it so hard?
>
> Jack
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
>
> From: "sparky 2211" <sparky.2211 at cox.net>
> To: "AA list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:51:20 AM
> Subject: [Land-speed] POLITICAL non rant 15 min.
>
> Fellow Americans, no matter how you feel politicaly
>
> Please consider contrubiting 15 min. of your time for our FUTURE as a
> country
>
> In Liberity,
>
> Wm. T. Smith '64
>
>
>
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/marco-rubio-takes-on-hypocrisy-of-debt-rhetor
ic-and-john-kerry/
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Aug  1 10:11:09 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 09:11:09 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
In-Reply-To: <CACA6BF13836AF4CA0C40492599D7CF60178586F54BD@m2.hg.genetics.utah.edu>
References: <CACA6BF13836AF4CA0C40492599D7CF60178586F54BD@m2.hg.genetics.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <4E36D01D.7030104@mayfco.com>

Hmmm, interesting thought there. But I counter with the notion that 
email lists are a lot like places where conversation between everyone 
can happen with regards to just about any topic of interest. For 
instance, if you go to a baseball game with a couple of buddies and it 
gets drawn out, I suspect that your and your buddies would talk about 
all sorts of things. Baseball would be the main topic still but other 
subjects creep in. It is just human nature.  In this case, the list was 
quiet and kinda dull. Sparky tossed in a topic and even labled it 
Political and said it was off topic. However, many folk chimed in 
showing that even if there was no specific LSR content the list was so 
quiet that it was ok to chat about.

So, as soon as people gather up and head for speed week all will be 
dully quiet again, I promise.. And the list survives by folk chatting 
and solving issues common to everyone and in many case specific to a 
particular interest.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 8/1/2011 8:22 AM, Dan Wright wrote:
> And you guys wonder what killed this list?
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Aug  1 16:13:46 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2011 15:13:46 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
In-Reply-To: <1312235711.49112.YahooMailRC@web113807.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <CACA6BF13836AF4CA0C40492599D7CF60178586F54BD@m2.hg.genetics.utah.edu>
	<4E36D01D.7030104@mayfco.com>
	<1312235711.49112.YahooMailRC@web113807.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4E37251A.1080500@mayfco.com>

Jeeze, Dan, I dunno. I don't like baseball.  Almost as exciting as 
Soccer or lawn bowling or maybe curling.  I suppose I used baseball as 
it is so unexciting that it leaves plenty of time to talk about most of 
the worlds events which happened last week, lol... thusly establishing 
teh pioint that email lists have all kids of people and things to talk 
about when it is slow.

So, when do you launch for Speed Week?  Sadly, I am not sure I will be 
going, as other events may overtake me. I would be able to attend only 
for a day or so to watch anyway.

mayf


______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 8/1/2011 2:55 PM, dan warner wrote:
> Why would you go to a baseball game?
> DW
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>
> *To:* land-speed at autox.team.net
> *Sent:* Mon, August 1, 2011 9:11:09 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
>
> Hmmm, interesting thought there. But I counter with the notion that 
> email lists are a lot like places where conversation between everyone 
> can happen with regards to just about any topic of interest. For 
> instance, if you go to a baseball game with a couple of buddies and it 
> gets drawn out, I suspect that your and your buddies would talk about 
> all sorts of things. Baseball would be the main topic still but other 
> subjects creep in. It is just human nature.  In this case, the list 
> was quiet and kinda dull. Sparky tossed in a topic and even labled it 
> Political and said it was off topic. However, many folk chimed in 
> showing that even if there was no specific LSR content the list was so 
> quiet that it was ok to chat about.
>
> So, as soon as people gather up and head for speed week all will be 
> dully quiet again, I promise.. And the list survives by folk chatting 
> and solving issues common to everyone and in many case specific to a 
> particular interest.
>
> mayf
>
> ______________________________
> drmayf
> Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
> 204.913 mph flying mile
> 210.779 mph exit speed
>
>
> On 8/1/2011 8:22 AM, Dan Wright wrote:
> > And you guys wonder what killed this list?
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From BWANA343 at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 17:24:57 2011
From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:24:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Back to LSR Crap, Carbon fiber crap, specifically
Message-ID: <34c4e.2134aacb.3b688fc9@aol.com>

I suspect this subject has been done, and I'm prepared for the usual  "go 
to the archives" reply, but I'll take a shot. I'm crazy like that. Besides,  
it needs updating...
Carbon Fiber for Roll cages or anything structural currently using  T.A. 
rules Steel. 
All I found recently was FIM (I think) approves it in F1 and other road  
racers. It also is standard in at least a few super cars, i.e., Ferrari. I 
read  some manufacturers sites promos/tech that say it is comparable to what is 
 required in LSR, but the diameter is like half what we use.  
I also saw there is all kinds of manufacturing processes, and lots of crap  
available. Most of the crap seems to go for the accessory after market for  
hoods, spoilers, shift knobs, basically non structural. 
Somebody sent me the You Tube vid of that Toyota CF loom, I guess where we  
migjht be going ? 
Edjicate me...
Bob W 

From 23.weldon at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 18:20:48 2011
From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 17:20:48 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)
References: <34c4e.2134aacb.3b688fc9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <A5385465EEDC4639A77E9B11128E2A73@edc2750afa5a84>

Is there anybody on the list besides me who is still waiting for his tube? 
I'd sure hate to have to lay out the bucks for a week's pit pass.  That 
happened once before to me when I left the button home on my desk and didn't 
discover my mistake until I got to the Salt.  I really don't want is a 
repitition if I can help it.
Ed Weldon 

From neil at dbelltech.com  Mon Aug  1 19:23:43 2011
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:23:43 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)
In-Reply-To: <A5385465EEDC4639A77E9B11128E2A73@edc2750afa5a84>
References: <34c4e.2134aacb.3b688fc9@aol.com>
	<A5385465EEDC4639A77E9B11128E2A73@edc2750afa5a84>
Message-ID: <EF8FDEECA52949459E8CE70E6283AA27@tiger>

Mine arrived on Friday, Ed.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 5:20 PM
To: <BWANA343 at aol.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)

> Is there anybody on the list besides me who is still waiting for his tube? 
> I'd sure hate to have to lay out the bucks for a week's pit pass.  That 
> happened once before to me when I left the button home on my desk and 
> didn't discover my mistake until I got to the Salt.  I really don't want 
> is a repitition if I can help it.
> Ed Weldon _______________________________________________
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From saltrat at pahrump.com  Mon Aug  1 19:26:24 2011
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 18:26:24 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)
References: <34c4e.2134aacb.3b688fc9@aol.com>
	<A5385465EEDC4639A77E9B11128E2A73@edc2750afa5a84>
Message-ID: <95D28F812BA243BFAD24743DA6FADA78@yourat5qgaac3z>

Got mine Saturday.
Skip in Nevada


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "23weldon" <23.weldon at comcast.net>
To: <BWANA343 at aol.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 17:20
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)


> Is there anybody on the list besides me who is still waiting for his tube? 
> I'd sure hate to have to lay out the bucks for a week's pit pass.  That 
> happened once before to me when I left the button home on my desk and 
> didn't discover my mistake until I got to the Salt.  I really don't want 
> is a repitition if I can help it.
> Ed Weldon 

From FFR554 at aol.com  Mon Aug  1 19:39:53 2011
From: FFR554 at aol.com (FFR554 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 21:39:53 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)
Message-ID: <2b07b.f8b8e19.3b68af69@aol.com>

Tube + all info & stuff arrived today
Bruce
 
 
In a message dated 8/1/2011 5:23:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
23.weldon at comcast.net writes:

Is there  anybody on the list besides me who is still waiting for his tube? 
I'd sure  hate to have to lay out the bucks for a week's pit pass.  That  
happened once before to me when I left the button home on my desk and  
didn't 
discover my mistake until I got to the Salt.  I really don't  want is a 
repitition if I can help it.
Ed Weldon  
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From NT788 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:18:40 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:18:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
In-Reply-To: <4E36D01D.7030104@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <1009960741.45301.1312251520112.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

If you can't talk about sex religion & politics, why talk at all? O h how
about the best oil?

Jack



----- Original Message -----


From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: land-speed at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 9:11:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap

Hmmm, interesting thought there. But I counter with the notion that
email lists are a lot like places where conversation between everyone
can happen with regards to just about any topic of interest. For
instance, if you go to a baseball game with a couple of buddies and it
gets drawn out, I suspect that your and your buddies would talk about
all sorts of things. Baseball would be the main topic still but other
subjects creep in. It is just human nature. B In this case, the list was
quiet and kinda dull. Sparky tossed in a topic and even labled it
Political and said it was off topic. However, many folk chimed in
showing that even if there was no specific LSR content the list was so
quiet that it was ok to chat about.

So, as soon as people gather up and head for speed week all will be
dully quiet again, I promise.. And the list survives by folk chatting
and solving issues common to everyone and in many case specific to a
particular interest.

mayf

______________________________
drmayf
Worlds Fastest Sunbeam, period.
204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 8/1/2011 8:22 AM, Dan Wright wrote:
> And you guys wonder what killed this list?
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From NT788 at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:19:47 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 02:19:47 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
In-Reply-To: <CACA6BF13836AF4CA0C40492599D7CF60178586F54BD@m2.hg.genetics.utah.edu>
Message-ID: <853321584.45382.1312251587339.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Not enough free speech? 

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Wright" <dwright at genetics.utah.edu> 
To: "Landspeed List (land-speed at autox.team.net)" <land-speed at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2011 8:22:25 AM 
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap 

And you guys wonder what killed this list? 
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From saltfever at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:33:44 2011
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:33:44 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Non LSR Crap
In-Reply-To: <mailman.17.1312221611.20518.land-speed@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <7DDFDA5E1C0D434C962AE2DBB62EDF0D@dim8100>

Yeah, Mayf, I'll agree with that. And a big THANK YOU Sparky for choosing an
appropriate title! You see, I get the list in ''Digest'' format. It only
comes once a day with all your chat neatly concatenated together and a
preamble that numbers your messages with their title (see below).

That digest, a day ago, was the fastest DELETE I have ever accomplished! One
look at the message titles and it was gone in a flash. THANK you again
Sparky for your thoughtfulness.
 Kirk
PS: Thanks Mark for the ''format'' option.

______________________________________
From: Larry Mayfield <drmayf at mayfco.com>
(snip . . . ) Sparky tossed in a topic and even labled it Political and said
it was off topic. However, many folk chimed in showing that even if there
was no specific LSR content the list was so quiet that it was ok to chat
about.

Today's Topics:
   1. Non LSR Crap (Dan Wright)
   2. Re: POLITICAL non rant 15 min. (NT788 at comcast.net)
   3. Re: Non LSR Crap (Larry Mayfield)

From 23.weldon at comcast.net  Mon Aug  1 20:52:26 2011
From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon)
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 19:52:26 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube)
References: <2b07b.f8b8e19.3b68af69@aol.com>
Message-ID: <C2AA518508A54CD896D456A8029AC655@edc2750afa5a84>

Thanks guys.  I guess the shipping went out in order of zip code.  I'm in the
caboose at 95033.  Tomorrow sounds like a good bet.
Ed Weldon
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: FFR554 at aol.com
  To: 23.weldon at comcast.net ; BWANA343 at aol.com ; land-speed at autox.team.net
  Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:39 PM
  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Membership goodies (the tube

  Tube + all info & stuff arrived today
  Bruce
  In a message dated 8/1/2011 5:23:13 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
23.weldon at comcast.net writes:     Is there anybody on the list besides me who
is still waiting for his tube?

From sparky.2211 at cox.net  Tue Aug  2 00:06:11 2011
From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 2:06:11 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR  little blue pill humor
Message-ID: <20110802020611.EVLSI.175815.imail@fed1rmwml44>

IT rained in Phoenix last night---now that is something to celebrate--I chose to celebrate by pulling weeds out of my yard--only when we get a fairly good rain, can we pull weeds up by the roots. After pulling weeds for 30 minutes I showered and was brushing my teeth getting ready to go to my Monday morning TPT meeting!! the way my back was feeling I reached for the bottle of ALEVE and popped a pill and broke out laughing!

Linda called out from the other room, "What is up"?  I said "Senior Humor", it is a a "Sad Day" when your little blue pill of choice is ALEVE and not VIGRIA!"

sparky

From desotoman at dslextreme.com  Tue Aug  2 11:36:32 2011
From: desotoman at dslextreme.com (desotoman @dslextreme.com)
Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2011 10:36:32 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR Post
Message-ID: <CAErREsA81b5uwyZ0yH6Y+AV0=8BKCjVOBgq15k1syV6y72sW3A@mail.gmail.com>

Sparky,

My hat is off to you. Your typing fingers, got the list going again and with
of all things a NON LSR post. To those that did not appreciate your post, I
suggest they not read the NON LSR posts so they won't get their panties in a
wad. HA HA HA. OK, that was my one post for the year.

Tom G.

From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed Aug  3 02:32:49 2011
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 01:32:49 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
Message-ID: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>

I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the tool
section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights" and
said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows everything.
Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated my
request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't grasp
the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be found
in the entire store.



And you think we have political problems!!!

From wester6935 at comcast.net  Wed Aug  3 04:58:58 2011
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 04:58:58 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
In-Reply-To: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
References: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
Message-ID: <1AE4A4C8-58EF-4F4A-94C6-15EB75A67C37@comcast.net>

You could have tried the mechanic's import emporium, Harbor Freight.  The odds
are much less that the "nice young guy" will hit on you while  you shop.
Twenty or so years ago I bought a floor jack from Harbor Freight when you had
to order from a single source in California.  Shipping was  free and the jack
has yet to leak hydraulic fluid.


On Aug 3, 2011, at 2:32 AM, Kirkwood wrote:

> I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
> old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the
tool
> section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights" and
> said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows everything.
> Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated my
> request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't grasp
> the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
> led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
> oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be found
> in the entire store.
>
>
>
> And you think we have political problems!!!
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From b.a.savage at cal.net  Wed Aug  3 10:32:58 2011
From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage)
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 09:32:58 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
In-Reply-To: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
References: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
Message-ID: <4E39783A.9020906@cal.net>

You will find it in the power lawn mower section.

BRYAN

On 8/3/2011 1:32 AM, Kirkwood wrote:
> I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
> old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the tool
> section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights" and
> said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows everything.
> Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated my
> request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't grasp
> the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
> led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
> oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be found
> in the entire store.
>
>
>
> And you think we have political problems!!!
> _______________________________________________
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Wed Aug  3 11:31:18 2011
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 11:31:18 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
In-Reply-To: <4E39783A.9020906@cal.net>
References: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
	<4E39783A.9020906@cal.net>
Message-ID: <B54D7CC51A234C6DAC7AC9CC3ED10900@GlenPC>

Napa, Grainger, Ace hardware are all good bets.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bryan Savage" <b.a.savage at cal.net>
To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
Cc: "List Land Speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)


> You will find it in the power lawn mower section.
>
> BRYAN
>
> On 8/3/2011 1:32 AM, Kirkwood wrote:
>> I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
>> old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the 
>> tool
>> section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights" 
>> and
>> said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows 
>> everything.
>> Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated 
>> my
>> request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't 
>> grasp
>> the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
>> led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
>> oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be 
>> found
>> in the entire store.
>>
>>
>>
>> And you think we have political problems!!!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Land-speed at autox.team.net
>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Wed Aug  3 11:58:32 2011
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 13:58:32 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
In-Reply-To: <B54D7CC51A234C6DAC7AC9CC3ED10900@GlenPC>
References: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
	<4E39783A.9020906@cal.net> <B54D7CC51A234C6DAC7AC9CC3ED10900@GlenPC>
Message-ID: <7A899729-A461-4340-9CED-0C2D29B909EC@nancyandjon.org>

CarQuest (at least the one in Marquette) has a shelf full of oil in various
flavors and containers.

Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim




On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, <speedtimer at beyondbb.com> wrote:

> Napa, Grainger, Ace hardware are all good bets.
> Glen
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" <b.a.savage at cal.net>
> To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
> Cc: "List Land Speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 10:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
>
>
>> You will find it in the power lawn mower section.
>>
>> BRYAN
>>
>> On 8/3/2011 1:32 AM, Kirkwood wrote:
>>> I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
>>> old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the
tool
>>> section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights"
and
>>> said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows
everything.
>>> Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated
my
>>> request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't
grasp
>>> the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
>>> led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
>>> oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be
found
>>> in the entire store.

From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Wed Aug  3 14:27:45 2011
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 16:27:45 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: das ist amerika
References: <CACqCGbHkgo+FvBW0-XTnh37GtVhZ9yGbjvYzke7nDPmNgHA-1A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <B85551DD-FF5D-4BD0-9D43-944BBC86EA34@nancyandjon.org>

Begin forwarded message:

> From: Peter Stoiber 
> Date: August 2, 2011 11:23:26 PM EDT
> To: undisclosed-recipients:;
> Bcc: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org
> Subject: Fwd: Fw: das ist amerika
> 
> 
> 
> -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> 

Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim

From yesford at clear.net.nz  Wed Aug  3 17:21:07 2011
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2011 11:21:07 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)
In-Reply-To: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
References: <E5CDE52EBF534E22AB94DECB87F47D0F@dim8100>
Message-ID: <9973E1FDBFFD49A2AB9A407ECD1031DF@HarrisPC>

As the saying goes 'progress isn't everything'.
For a good ole oil can these days I buy those plastic squirt bottles like on 
the hot dog stand full of mustard. They're perfect for final lube on 
rockers, pushrods, springs etc before buttoning down the covers.
Chris Harris.............NZed.

Almost forgot:, To all off to Speedweek, have a good one, run safe, run 
hard.............enjoy (usually not optional but automatic).



--------------------------------------------------
From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 8:32 PM
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] Oil Can (non-LSR)

> I went to Home Depot today to get an oil can. You know the kind, the good
> old fashion thingy you put some 30wt in. Found an nice young guy in the 
> tool
> section and asked him. He looked at me like a "deer in the headlights" and
> said he would get "Joe".  Evidently, a wise old guy that knows everything.
> Joe was the head of the tool section and about 40 years old. I repeated my
> request. He wasn't sure and asked a few questions. He honestly didn't 
> grasp
> the concept of putting oil in a container. Finally, a neuron fired and he
> led me to a display that had a dozen pressurized rattle cans of various
> oils. You know, LDS, WD-40, 3-in-one, etc. Not a single oil can to be 
> found
> in the entire store.
>
>
>
> And you think we have political problems!!!
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive
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From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Wed Aug  3 19:38:59 2011
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:38:59 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] SPELLING
References: <4F9F7082358F49E98A9E198E8ED6EDEE@AngelaPC>
Message-ID: <A6BDD461-A7B3-4C5D-AF75-5836074369E1@nancyandjon.org>

>From my daughter:

Begin forwarded message:



Subject: SPELLING

Did you know  listen  and  silent  use the same letters?



Do you know that the word  race car  spelled backwards still spells  race
car ?


And that  eat  is the only word that if you take the first letter and move
it to the last, it spells its past tense  ate ?

And have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in  illegal immigrants
, and add just a few more letters , it spells: Go home you free-loading,
benefit-grabbing, resource-sucking, baby-making, non-English-speaking
jackasses and take those other hairy-faced, rag-headed, sandal-wearing,
bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-loving, raggedy-ass bastards with you.

How weird is that?

Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim

From Jonwennerberg at Nancyandjon.org  Wed Aug  3 19:49:19 2011
From: Jonwennerberg at Nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 21:49:19 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
Message-ID: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>

I just sent an email with a "funny" taint -- but sent it to the list instead
of the person to whom I had intended to share it with me.  I apologize if it
offends -- it's yet another example of the internet's ability to make fun of
just about anything.

I'm sorry if it bothered you -- I'm glad if you enjoyed it.

      Jon Wennerberg
Tall guy with moustache
and a pair of 2 Club hats

From rjdenton479 at gmail.com  Thu Aug  4 03:31:12 2011
From: rjdenton479 at gmail.com (Robert J. Denton)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 05:31:12 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
In-Reply-To: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
References: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
Message-ID: <CACTSpi7_sbJbotbtcvGwptSAmjDyLageBcWQiqXgKy96OCwSfg@mail.gmail.com>

Me parecis que era muy ofensivo. Me gustan los chistes ofensivos. Gracias

On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 9:49 PM, Jon Wennerberg <
Jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org> wrote:

> I just sent an email with a "funny" taint -- but sent it to the list
> instead
> of the person to whom I had intended to share it with me.  I apologize if
> it
> offends -- it's yet another example of the internet's ability to make fun
> of
> just about anything.
>
> I'm sorry if it bothered you -- I'm glad if you enjoyed it.
>
>      Jon Wennerberg
> Tall guy with moustache
> and a pair of 2 Club hats
> _______________________________________________

From dahlgren536 at comcast.net  Thu Aug  4 06:40:57 2011
From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 08:40:57 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
In-Reply-To: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
References: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
Message-ID: <000001cc52a3$c569bd90$503d38b0$@net>

I saw the 'funny' e-mail and do not see the 'funny' part of it. I am a
believer you should know enough English in order to function day to day as
it is a requirement to be a US citizen. So in my opinion if not speaking
English either not a citizen or being passive aggressive or really just
don't want to be citizens though do want the benefits of being one. I have
spent some time in Europe and if you think you are going to buy something as
simple as a train ticket and not know any French you will be in for a big
surprise.. I am also not a fan of the diverse culture notion that became
popular a couple of decades ago. I don't see (pick whatever ethnic/religious
affiliation)/American either American or not and if not a friend a foe just
that simple.. It is subversive and divides a population rather than unites
it, a really bad idea if you want a law abiding somewhat peaceful country.
For those that don't like the pledge of allegiance find another place to
live and whatever you do don't pick places like Shelter Island NY or South
Hampton NY as I promise you have not seen as many flags on display for miles
on every day of the week..
Dave

-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jon Wennerberg
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:49 PM
To: land-speed at autox.team.net Speed
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology

I just sent an email with a "funny" taint -- but sent it to the list instead
of the person to whom I had intended to share it with me.  I apologize if it
offends -- it's yet another example of the internet's ability to make fun of
just about anything.

I'm sorry if it bothered you -- I'm glad if you enjoyed it.

      Jon Wennerberg
Tall guy with moustache
and a pair of 2 Club hats
_______________________________________________

From race427 at aol.com  Thu Aug  4 13:34:56 2011
From: race427 at aol.com (Tony Greco)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 15:34:56 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
In-Reply-To: <000001cc52a3$c569bd90$503d38b0$@net>
References: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
	<000001cc52a3$c569bd90$503d38b0$@net>
Message-ID: <39CA1CF5-51D3-4522-B482-969443B3B05D@aol.com>

American Flag, POW/MIA and Seals flags flying in front of our house on a pole.
My father and Uncles fought too damn hard in WW II to defend our country, not
to fly them!!   God Bless our Veterans, POW/MIA and Troops everywhere!!

   Tony G.      Commack, NY.      :)

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 4, 2011, at 8:40 AM, "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net> wrote:

> I saw the 'funny' e-mail and do not see the 'funny' part of it. I am a
> believer you should know enough English in order to function day to day as
> it is a requirement to be a US citizen. So in my opinion if not speaking
> English either not a citizen or being passive aggressive or really just
> don't want to be citizens though do want the benefits of being one. I have
> spent some time in Europe and if you think you are going to buy something
as
> simple as a train ticket and not know any French you will be in for a big
> surprise.. I am also not a fan of the diverse culture notion that became
> popular a couple of decades ago. I don't see (pick whatever
ethnic/religious
> affiliation)/American either American or not and if not a friend a foe just
> that simple.. It is subversive and divides a population rather than unites
> it, a really bad idea if you want a law abiding somewhat peaceful country.
> For those that don't like the pledge of allegiance find another place to
> live and whatever you do don't pick places like Shelter Island NY or South
> Hampton NY as I promise you have not seen as many flags on display for
miles
> on every day of the week..
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Jon Wennerberg
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 9:49 PM
> To: land-speed at autox.team.net Speed
> Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
>
> I just sent an email with a "funny" taint -- but sent it to the list
instead
> of the person to whom I had intended to share it with me.  I apologize if
it
> offends -- it's yet another example of the internet's ability to make fun
of
> just about anything.
>
> I'm sorry if it bothered you -- I'm glad if you enjoyed it.
>
>      Jon Wennerberg
> Tall guy with moustache
> and a pair of 2 Club hats
> _______________________________________________
> _______________________________________________
> Land-speed at autox.team.net
> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html
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From bernien2 at swbell.net  Thu Aug  4 16:24:00 2011
From: bernien2 at swbell.net (Bernie Brown)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:24:00 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed] Apology
References: <58F07A76-699D-4831-B2C3-417043C3A590@Nancyandjon.org>
	<000001cc52a3$c569bd90$503d38b0$@net>
Message-ID: <A39D59D4F48B418B81FC4F1A83B1DB89@BB>

Good words Dave! Bernie


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net>


>I saw the 'funny' e-mail and do not see the 'funny' part of it. I am a
> believer you should know enough English in order to function day to day as
> it is a requirement to be a US citizen. So in my opinion if not speaking
> English either not a citizen or being passive aggressive or really just
> don't want to be citizens though do want the benefits of being one. I have
> spent some time in Europe and if you think you are going to buy something 
> as
> simple as a train ticket and not know any French you will be in for a big
> surprise.. I am also not a fan of the diverse culture notion that became
> popular a couple of decades ago. I don't see (pick whatever 
> ethnic/religious
> affiliation)/American either American or not and if not a friend a foe 
> just
> that simple.. It is subversive and divides a population rather than unites
> it, a really bad idea if you want a law abiding somewhat peaceful country.
> For those that don't like the pledge of allegiance find another place to
> live and whatever you do don't pick places like Shelter Island NY or South
> Hampton NY as I promise you have not seen as many flags on display for 
> miles
> on every day of the week..
> Dave
> >
> I just sent an email with a "funny" taint -- but sent it to the list 
> instead
> of the person to whom I had intended to share it with me.  I apologize if 
> it
> offends -- it's yet another example of the internet's ability to make fun 
> of
> just about anything.
>
> I'm sorry if it bothered you -- I'm glad if you enjoyed it.
>
>      Jon Wennerberg
> Tall guy with moustache
> and a pair of 2 Club hats

From wester6935 at comcast.net  Thu Aug  4 17:47:55 2011
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 17:47:55 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Bonneville tarp
Message-ID: <6420F1AD-2A5B-4DA6-9DC4-3354CBB9C117@comcast.net>


From saltrat at pahrump.com  Thu Aug  4 19:42:55 2011
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2011 18:42:55 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Bonneville tarp
References: <6420F1AD-2A5B-4DA6-9DC4-3354CBB9C117@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <854850D9A1854A54A951BED4D5428DC9@yourat5qgaac3z>

What did you send Wes?
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wester Potter" <wester6935 at comcast.net>
To: "LAND SPEED LIST" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 16:47
Subject: [Land-speed] Bonneville tarp


>
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From sparky.2211 at cox.net  Thu Aug  4 22:18:33 2011
From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 0:18:33 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] =?utf-8?q?NON_LSR_=E2=80=AABrian_Terry=3A_Semper_Fid?=
 =?utf-8?q?elis_=26_Honor_First=E2=80=AC=E2=80=8F_-_YouTube?=
Message-ID: <20110805001833.YABNS.1451830.imail@fed1rmwml34>

>> Team,
> 
> This is the passage i'd referred to when I reported on the Memorial Service - the 'To be read at my funeral' letter U.S.B.P. Agent Brian Terry left behind.  It's pretty dang moving.
> 
> Thanks to Congressman Issa for putting this out.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jTJq_VfS8&feature=player_embedded

From ronggibson at gmail.com  Fri Aug  5 16:26:50 2011
From: ronggibson at gmail.com (Ron Gibson)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:26:50 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed]
 =?utf-8?q?NON_LSR_=E2=80=AABrian_Terry=3A_Semper_Fid?=
 =?utf-8?q?elis_=26_Honor_First=E2=80=AC=E2=80=8F_-_YouTube?=
In-Reply-To: <20110805001833.YABNS.1451830.imail@fed1rmwml34>
References: <20110805001833.YABNS.1451830.imail@fed1rmwml34>
Message-ID: <CA+EC4v31asAYUsbzi3w=LWy9k1HhxN=AGfwMkgN4gvx2DzAPSg@mail.gmail.com>

Thank You, Sparky

Very touching. Too bad more people don't have that kind of dedication.

Ron

On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM, <sparky.2211 at cox.net> wrote:

> >> Team,
> >
> > This is the passage i'd referred to when I reported on the Memorial
> Service - the 'To be read at my funeral' letter U.S.B.P. Agent Brian Terry
> left behind.  It's pretty dang moving.
> >
> > Thanks to Congressman Issa for putting this out.
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jTJq_VfS8&feature=player_embedded
> _______________________________________________
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From Jimwprice at aol.com  Fri Aug  5 17:45:50 2011
From: Jimwprice at aol.com (Jimwprice at aol.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:45:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road
Message-ID: <9f1cf.42e3705b.3b6ddaad@aol.com>

I heard that the Destroy The Salt company, Intrepid has posted  the BIR as 
no camping, $500 fine and a towaway zone.  What's a boy to  do?

From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Fri Aug  5 17:58:23 2011
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 17:58:23 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road
In-Reply-To: <9f1cf.42e3705b.3b6ddaad@aol.com>
References: <9f1cf.42e3705b.3b6ddaad@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4994C5B54B724224B4E4E4C70A2C907C@GlenPC>

It's not true see landracing.com  for the update/correction. The camping is 
allowed it was another area restricted by the BLM. Not the salt guys.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: <Jimwprice at aol.com>
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:45 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road


>I heard that the Destroy The Salt company, Intrepid has posted  the BIR as
> no camping, $500 fine and a towaway zone.  What's a boy to  do?
> _______________________________________________
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From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Fri Aug  5 17:59:28 2011
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 19:59:28 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road
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INCORRECT< Jm and all.  I did post that stuff, having been informed a while
ago.  But now the BLM lady -- Roxanne Tea -- called to say that no, that is
not correct.  Camping is allowed just like always, on both the inside and the
outside of the road - EXCEPT n the gravel pad at the center of the inside of
the Bend.  That's the only restriction to camping, okay?

Sorry for the inconvenience of being shocked and bummed out and really worried
that you'd have to go half-way to the Jar Bar ranch to find some room to toss
your sleeping bag.  It's okay after all.

Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim





On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Jimwprice at aol.com wrote:

I heard that the Destroy The Salt company, Intrepid has posted  the BIR as
no camping, $500 fine and a towaway zone.  What's a boy to  do?
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From ed at vetteracing.com  Sat Aug  6 20:54:32 2011
From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy)
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 02:54:32 +0000
Subject: [Land-speed] NON LSR ?Brian Terry: Semper Fidelis & Honor
 First?? - YouTube
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Yup.... Gotta agree.
Ed
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- YouTube

Thank You, Sparky Very touching. Too bad more people don't have that kind of
dedication. Ron On Thu, Aug 4, 2011 at 11:18 PM, wrote: > >> Team, > > > >
This is the passage i'd referred to when I reported on the Memorial > Service
- the 'To be read at my funeral' letter U.S.B.P. Agent Brian Terry > left
behind. It's pretty dang moving. > > > > Thanks to Congressman Issa for
putting this out. > > > >
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0jTJq_VfS8&feature=player_embedded >
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From v4gmr at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  7 00:01:25 2011
From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox)
Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 23:01:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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http://vimeo.com/16117810  Check it out if you are so inclined. R4360 first
fire up.

From adin at frontier.net  Sun Aug  7 07:37:37 2011
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:37:37 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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Probably wouldn't fit in the Miata . . .  or would it?

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> http://vimeo.com/16117810  Check it out if you are so inclined. R4360 
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From lsr_man at yahoo.com  Sun Aug  7 08:47:26 2011
From: lsr_man at yahoo.com (Dick J)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 07:47:26 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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David,
 
Never say that.   Back about half a century ago, I thought an Olds V8
would never fit in a 49 Chev, and right then I remember an article about "get
a bigger hammer", I think in Hot Rod magazine.  They showed a Fiat with a
monster motor from a tank - 'bout the size of the P&W.  I guess it will fit if
you get a big enough hammer.
 
DickJ
In East Texas

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Probably wouldn't fit in
the Miata . . .  or would it?

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From adin at frontier.net  Sun Aug  7 08:54:56 2011
From: adin at frontier.net (David)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 08:54:56 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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Yea Sir, thanks for the reminder.

Probably just takes talent and money-all in short supply here.

Keep the rubber side down.

David

On Aug 7, 2011, at 8:47 AM, Dick J <lsr_man at yahoo.com> wrote:

> David,
>
> Never say that.   Back about half a century ago, I thought an Olds V8 would
never fit in a 49 Chev, and right then I remember an article about "get a
bigger hammer", I think in Hot Rod magazine.  They showed a Fiat with a
monster motor from a tank - 'bout the size of the P&W.  I guess it will fit if
you get a big enough hammer.
>
> DickJ
> In East Texas
>
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> Probably wouldn't fit in the Miata . . .  or would it?
>
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From jolylance at earthlink.net  Sun Aug  7 10:41:01 2011
From: jolylance at earthlink.net (JOE LANCE)
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 12:41:01 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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Same here---Fifty three years ago I was lowering an Olds V8 into a 39 Ford
in the back yard when one of the local auto "mechanics" stopped by and told
me it wouldn't work because big engines went into big cars and only small
engines fitted into little cars.

Knew a guy who flew Corsairs off carrier decks during WW II, funny thing was
he used to get air sick when he flew on commercial air liners during leaves.

Lance 



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2011 10:47 AM
To: David in Durango; Rich Fox; Landspeed list
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR

David,
 
Never say that.   Back about half a century ago, I thought an Olds V8
would never fit in a 49 Chev, and right then I remember an article about
"get
a bigger hammer", I think in Hot Rod magazine.  They showed a Fiat with a
monster motor from a tank - 'bout the size of the P&W.  I guess it will fit
if
you get a big enough hammer.
 
DickJ
In East Texas

From yesford at clear.net.nz  Sun Aug  7 18:34:05 2011
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 12:34:05 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] First time on the engine stand-Non LSR
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Rich, many thanks for the terrific vid. Love those big mills.
My hat is off to the men who flew Corsairs and all other piston aircraft 
developed in those dark days.

> http://vimeo.com/16117810  Check it out if you are so inclined. R4360 
> first
> fire up.

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Aug  8 19:04:02 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 08 Aug 2011 18:04:02 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer motor
	heads
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Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a 
size that would permit it to be within the D class displacement 
constraints.  My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over 
bore.  Seems like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so! 
That bore puts the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a 
measly 0.134 cubic inches out of class.  Almost as if i was supposed to 
be that way, lol.. but who would do such a thing...
In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on 
each bank.  That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the 
effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same 
crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in 
front one in back? In the middle of the crank?  How would these 
positions affect crank harmonics?  What about the balance aspect of it. 
Seems that if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical.

No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I 
would like to hear thoughts about.  Or is it, in reality, picking fly 
poop out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.

On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons. 
Forged... gota get a motor together for the orange car.

mayf


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From terryhaines at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 20:36:30 2011
From: terryhaines at comcast.net (Terryv Haines)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 02:36:30 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motor	heads
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B B  I think 3067.133 cubic inches is a bit over for a C motor !! :)

----- Original Message -----
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To: land-speed at autox.team.net
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 6:04:02 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
motorB B B B B B B B heads

Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a
size that would permit it to be within the D class displacement
constraints. B My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over
bore. B Seems like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so!
That bore puts the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a
measly 0.134 cubic inches out of class. B Almost as if i was supposed to
be that way, lol.. but who would do such a thing...
In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on
each bank. B That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the
effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same
crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in
front one in back? In the middle of the crank? B How would these
positions affect crank harmonics? B What about the balance aspect of it.
Seems that if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical.

No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I
would like to hear thoughts about. B Or is it, in reality, picking fly
poop out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.

On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons.
Forged... gota get a motor together for the orange car.

mayf


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From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Mon Aug  8 20:46:25 2011
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 22:46:25 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motorheads
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Mayf

Imbalance adds no stress to engine parts . If sleeving one cylinder to 4" 
makes your engine a D go for it . I'd be happy to clarify my balance vs. 
stress statement .

John Burk


> Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a size 
> that would permit it to be within the D class displacement constraints. 
> My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over bore.  Seems 
> like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so! That bore puts 
> the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a measly 0.134 cubic 
> inches out of class.  Almost as if i was supposed to be that way, lol.. 
> but who would do such a thing...
> In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on 
> each bank.  That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the 
> effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same 
> crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in 
> front one in back? In the middle of the crank?  How would these positions 
> affect crank harmonics?  What about the balance aspect of it. Seems that 
> if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical.
>
> No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I 
> would like to hear thoughts about.  Or is it, in reality, picking fly poop 
> out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.
>
> On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons. Forged... 
> gota get a motor together for the orange car.
>
> mayf

From NT788 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  9 10:20:06 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:20:06 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motorheads
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I ran 7cyls and counterweigted the crank. It worked ok

jack



----- Original Message -----




From: "John Burk" < joyseydevil @comcast.net>
To: " LandSpeed List" <Land-speed@ autox .team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 8, 2011 7:46:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
motorheads

Mayf

Imbalance adds no stress to engine parts . If sleeving one cylinder to 4"
makes your engine a D go for it . I'd be happy to clarify my balance vs.
stress statement .

John Burk


> Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a size
> that would permit it to be within the D class displacement constraints.
> My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over bore. B Seems
> like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so! That bore puts
> the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a measly 0.134 cubic
> inches out of class. B Almost as if i was supposed to be that way, lol ..
> but who would do such a thing...
> In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on
> each bank. B That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the
> effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same
> crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in
> front one in back? In the middle of the crank? B How would these positions
> affect crank harmonics? B What about the balance aspect of it. Seems that
> if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical .
>
> No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I
> would like to hear thoughts about. B Or is it, in reality, picking fly poop
> out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.
>
> On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons. Forged...
> gota get a motor together for the orange car.
>
> mayf
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From NT788 at comcast.net  Tue Aug  9 10:31:49 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:31:49 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road
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Just a matter of time!

Jack



----- Original Message -----


From: "Jon Wennerberg" <jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org>
To: Jimwprice at aol.com
Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net
Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:59:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Bend In the Road

INCORRECT< Jm and all. B I did post that stuff, having been informed a while
ago. B But now the BLM lady -- Roxanne Tea -- called to say that no, that is
not correct. B Camping is allowed just like always, on both the inside and the
outside of the road - EXCEPT n the gravel pad at the center of the inside of
the Bend. B That's the only restriction to camping, okay?

Sorry for the inconvenience of being shocked and bummed out and really worried
that you'd have to go half-way to the Jar Bar ranch to find some room to toss
your sleeping bag. B It's okay after all.

Jon a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim





On Aug 5, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Jimwprice at aol.com wrote:

I heard that the Destroy The Salt company, Intrepid has posted B the BIR as
no camping, $500 fine and a towaway zone. B What's a boy to B do?
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From saltrat at pahrump.com  Tue Aug  9 12:35:17 2011
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 11:35:17 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motorheads
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Mayf,
I think that if the piston and rod weights are the same throughout the 
engine, balance would be good and performance might change about the amount 
that a cylinder a couple of percent low on compression might cause. And then 
one might put a slightly higher compression piston in the smaller bore and 
have no performance degradation at all.
Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry Mayfield" <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 18:04
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer 
motorheads


> Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a size 
> that would permit it to be within the D class displacement constraints. 
> My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over bore.  Seems 
> like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so! That bore puts 
> the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a measly 0.134 cubic 
> inches out of class.  Almost as if i was supposed to be that way, lol.. 
> but who would do such a thing...
> In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on 
> each bank.  That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the 
> effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same 
> crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in 
> front one in back? In the middle of the crank?  How would these positions 
> affect crank harmonics?  What about the balance aspect of it. Seems that 
> if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical.
>
> No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I 
> would like to hear thoughts about.  Or is it, in reality, picking fly poop 
> out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.
>
> On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons. Forged... 
> gota get a motor together for the orange car.
>
> mayf
>
>
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Aug  9 12:43:14 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 11:43:14 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Ford Small Block Expert?
Message-ID: <4E417FC2.2060203@mayfco.com>

I have a coupole of questions that I would like to ask of a small block 
ford expert That would be the 289 and early 302 motors.  If you fancy 
yourself such, I would like to ask you those questions... Both have to 
do with connecting rods and pistons.

mayf

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204.913 mph flying mile
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From b.a.savage at cal.net  Tue Aug  9 13:50:50 2011
From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 12:50:50 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motor heads
In-Reply-To: <4E408782.9000101@mayfco.com>
References: <4E408782.9000101@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <4E418F9A.3090200@cal.net>

Mayf,

Unless the tech inspection rules have changed, at .134 over, you are IN 
class. You are or were, in 1990, allowed up to 1 CID over the limit. I 
ran at 61.4 in I class. No problem.

Check with Dan Warner for current information.

Good luck,
Bryan


On 8/8/2011 6:04 PM, Larry Mayfield wrote:
> Any number of times people have told me to sleeve my motor down to a
> size that would permit it to be within the D class displacement
> constraints. My current motor is a ford 5.0 with a standard 0.030 over
> bore. Seems like that would be an acceptable size, but just isn't so!
> That bore puts the motor at 3067.133 cubic inches displacement. Just a
> measly 0.134 cubic inches out of class. Almost as if i was supposed to
> be that way, lol.. but who would do such a thing...
> In any case I sat here and wondered about sleeving two cylinders, one on
> each bank. That made me think I don't know squat about sleeving and the
> effects. So, would it be better to do one on each side and on teh same
> crank throw or on different crank throws still on opposite sides. One in
> front one in back? In the middle of the crank? How would these positions
> affect crank harmonics? What about the balance aspect of it. Seems that
> if on a different throw then balance would be unsymetrical.
>
> No, not planning on doing this but it is a curiousity to me, something I
> would like to hear thoughts about. Or is it, in reality, picking fly
> poop out of the pepper and makes no difference at all.
>
> On a separate note, I need some 4.03 diameter ford 289 pistons.
> Forged... gota get a motor together for the orange car.
>
> mayf

From jdincau at qnet.com  Tue Aug  9 14:16:35 2011
From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:16:35 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motor heads
In-Reply-To: <4E418F9A.3090200@cal.net>
References: <4E408782.9000101@mayfco.com> <4E418F9A.3090200@cal.net>
Message-ID: <B1B1FBC06C5E4711BA81A43BA91A565B@denpc>

Rule book limits for D are 261.00 to 305.99


> Mayf,
>
> Unless the tech inspection rules have changed, at .134 over, you are IN 
> class. You are or were, in 1990, allowed up to 1 CID over the limit. I ran 
> at 61.4 in I class. No problem.
>
> Check with Dan Warner for current information.
>
> Good luck,
> Bryan

From saltfever at comcast.net  Tue Aug  9 14:50:02 2011
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 13:50:02 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
Message-ID: <A8B9A175BBCE4172BF67FBC412A8F977@dim8100>

The difference in piston weight will only be a few grams and that can easily
be taking from the rest of them. Or you can mix & match pistons to get
weights equal. There is no issue changing crank counterweight, you can add
or subtract if that is the approach you want. Or you could offset-grind the
crank a few thousandths, no?



If this a record potential, and you are that close in displacement, or if
any cylinder is sized differently from the others; I doubt the engine can be
pumped. You will have to take both heads off. OK if you are heading home
after you get the record. :-)



Sleeving is a good deal because you are also getting a free port job. (less
cylinder volume flowing through the same port area is the same as enlarging
ports on std cylinders. However, depending on the engine, wall interference
and flow patterns are always an issue when you shrink cylinders.

From b.a.savage at cal.net  Tue Aug  9 16:13:28 2011
From: b.a.savage at cal.net (Bryan Savage)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 15:13:28 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
 motor heads
In-Reply-To: <B1B1FBC06C5E4711BA81A43BA91A565B@denpc>
References: <4E408782.9000101@mayfco.com> <4E418F9A.3090200@cal.net>
	<B1B1FBC06C5E4711BA81A43BA91A565B@denpc>
Message-ID: <4E41B108.4080201@cal.net>

Sorry folks. Brain failure.
Bryan

On 8/9/2011 1:16 PM, Jim Dincau wrote:
> Rule book limits for D are 261.00 to 305.99
>
>
>> Mayf,
>>
>> Unless the tech inspection rules have changed, at .134 over, you are IN
>> class. You are or were, in 1990, allowed up to 1 CID over the limit. I ran
>> at 61.4 in I class. No problem.
>>
>> Check with Dan Warner for current information.
>>
>> Good luck,
>> Bryan
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From jdincau at qnet.com  Tue Aug  9 16:18:31 2011
From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 15:18:31 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Relieving pressure on valve springs
Message-ID: <0DE09878027E4B57A74FAF647842CEBC@denpc>

Hi all,
     What is the consensus on relieving the pressure on valve springs when 
the engine is sitting idle? We have not been racing every meet this year and 
I was wondering. This is for the engine in the street roadster, the engine 
in the modified is never together long enough to worry about it.
Jim in Palmdale 

From gmc6power at earthlink.net  Tue Aug  9 17:24:07 2011
From: gmc6power at earthlink.net (J.D. Tone)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 16:24:07 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
References: <A8B9A175BBCE4172BF67FBC412A8F977@dim8100>
Message-ID: <78B1AE2E1E8A4343A8756F54295C6242@mydf7618c59bbf>

Kirk has the correct answer now that you have inquired about sleeving "a" 
cylinder to get in a specific class. I would definatley be prepared to 
remove both heads especially if I'm back working with Dan in impounds...The 
cat is really out of the bag on this one....JD

> The difference in piston weight will only be a few grams and that can 
> easily
> be taking from the rest of them. Or you can mix & match pistons to get
> weights equal. There is no issue changing crank counterweight, you can add
> or subtract if that is the approach you want. Or you could offset-grind 
> the
> crank a few thousandths, no?
>
>
>
> If this a record potential, and you are that close in displacement, or if
> any cylinder is sized differently from the others; I doubt the engine can 
> be
> pumped. You will have to take both heads off. OK if you are heading home
> after you get the record. :-)

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Aug  9 18:36:05 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 09 Aug 2011 17:36:05 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Sleeving a motor.. for the stay at home racer
In-Reply-To: <78B1AE2E1E8A4343A8756F54295C6242@mydf7618c59bbf>
References: <A8B9A175BBCE4172BF67FBC412A8F977@dim8100>
	<78B1AE2E1E8A4343A8756F54295C6242@mydf7618c59bbf>
Message-ID: <4E41D275.5020901@mayfco.com>

Well, you'd get no complaint from me, if that was what I was going to 
do.  I am an honest man and would help you do what ever is necessary to 
verify the motor is as stated.   I am curious as to what you would be 
looking for though. Since with two cylinders sleeved to less than 
maximum displacement would you be looking to see if it is smaller and 
farther into the allowed D displacement range?   A pump check of the two 
cylinders would certainly show that it is in spec. Check all the 
remaining ones to verify? Or what? Or maybe just maybe this is so 
insidious that I would over bore the remaining six to make it deeper 
into the C motor size only giving away maybe 55 cubic inches to the C 
class motor's maximum displacement. Yeah that would work.

You guys are funny!

mayf

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204.913 mph flying mile
210.779 mph exit speed


On 8/9/2011 4:24 PM, J.D. Tone wrote:
> Kirk has the correct answer now that you have inquired about sleeving 
> "a" cylinder to get in a specific class. I would definatley be 
> prepared to remove both heads especially if I'm back working with Dan 
> in impounds...The cat is really out of the bag on this one....JD
>
>> The difference in piston weight will only be a few grams and that can 
>> easily
>> be taking from the rest of them. Or you can mix & match pistons to get
>> weights equal. There is no issue changing crank counterweight, you 
>> can add
>> or subtract if that is the approach you want. Or you could 
>> offset-grind the
>> crank a few thousandths, no?
>>
>>
>>
>> If this a record potential, and you are that close in displacement, 
>> or if
>> any cylinder is sized differently from the others; I doubt the engine 
>> can be
>> pumped. You will have to take both heads off. OK if you are heading home
>> after you get the record. :-)
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Tue Aug  9 20:13:00 2011
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Tue, 9 Aug 2011 20:13:00 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] speed week
Message-ID: <EAA4B3F941934FD8937B27C206E27968@GlenPC>

Off to Bonneville for speed week.

From Rick at RBMotorsports.com  Mon Aug 15 09:40:02 2011
From: Rick at RBMotorsports.com (Rick Byrnes)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:40:02 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
Message-ID: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>

Good morning my fellow salt freaks.
I haven't been able to open landracing.com.  Is it just overloaded?
Or, a problem?
I saw on RtR facebook that it rained last night, but no more information.

Rick

From adin at frontier.net  Mon Aug 15 09:52:41 2011
From: adin at frontier.net (David)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:52:41 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
In-Reply-To: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>
References: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>
Message-ID: <89B83CEB-1FAB-4EB7-AC09-B900F4CF6CD2@frontier.net>

I was there earlier this am. Not much help.

On Aug 15, 2011, at 9:40 AM, "Rick Byrnes" <Rick at RBMotorsports.com> wrote:

> Good morning my fellow salt freaks.
> I haven't been able to open landracing.com.  Is it just overloaded?
> Or, a problem?
> I saw on RtR facebook that it rained last night, but no more information.
>
> Rick
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From saltrat at pahrump.com  Mon Aug 15 10:00:58 2011
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 09:00:58 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
References: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>
Message-ID: <17D948A006264380AEF66BD9C42CCB78@yourat5qgaac3z>

Rick,

I see the same thing.....

Skip
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rick Byrnes" <Rick at RBMotorsports.com>
To: "land Speed List" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 08:40
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com


> Good morning my fellow salt freaks.
> I haven't been able to open landracing.com.  Is it just overloaded?
> Or, a problem?
> I saw on RtR facebook that it rained last night, but no more information.
>
> Rick
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From BWANA343 at aol.com  Mon Aug 15 10:04:50 2011
From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:04:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
Message-ID: <319b4.c7fcd8c.3b7a9da2@aol.com>

In a message dated 8/15/2011 11:47:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,  
Rick at RBMotorsports.com writes:

Good  morning my fellow salt freaks.
I haven't been able to open  landracing.com.  Is it just overloaded?
Or, a problem?
I saw on RtR  facebook that it rained last night, but no more  information.

Rick



I'm sure Jon W is aware of it, and I just emailed this to him. It's still  
early out there, too, and considering his overfilled plate, maybe also  a 
good thought to not inundate him with "how did whazziz name do "? 
Bob W 

From gary_ellen at q.com  Mon Aug 15 10:13:34 2011
From: gary_ellen at q.com (gary_ellen at q.com)
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 12:13:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
In-Reply-To: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>
Message-ID: <865678838.313012.1313424814139.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com>

Rick, Gary hasn't been able to get into landracing either for the last little while.  We came home in a deluge last night after 11 pm....However, it was just blowing hard and spitting in Wendover and it did hit for a few minutes at bend in the road.  Gary saw a post earlier that said they were running on the salt this morning.  It was certainly dry and busy yesterday!  I just called a member who is out there and they were delayed til about 9 this morning but are now running.  The salt is dry but there is a short boat ramp off the end of the road!
Ellen

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rick Byrnes" <Rick at RBMotorsports.com>
To: "land Speed List" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, August 15, 2011 9:40:02 AM
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com

Good morning my fellow salt freaks.
I haven't been able to open landracing.com.  Is it just overloaded?
Or, a problem?
I saw on RtR facebook that it rained last night, but no more information.

Rick
_______________________________________________
Land-speed

From mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com  Mon Aug 15 10:53:57 2011
From: mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com (Meierle, Michael D (Mike))
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2011 11:53:57 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed] landracing.com
In-Reply-To: <865678838.313012.1313424814139.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com>
References: <96FBBB1CB2694FAF8D33755A5AE3ADB1@Rick>
	<865678838.313012.1313424814139.JavaMail.root@md04.quartz.synacor.com>
Message-ID: <CC519D1BCDE8D24482EC9913EAF3AD850AD25EBD51@USNAVSXCHMBSC2.ndc.alcatel-lucent.com>

Working Now!!!

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Aug 24 14:18:44 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2011 13:18:44 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Ford Small Block Heads needed...
Message-ID: <4E555CA4.6030902@mayfco.com>

Seeking a pair of used heads, either World Products Windsor Jr with 1.94 
intake and 1.6 exhaust and 60 cc combustion chamber size. Complete 
heads. Or AFR 165 heads  with 1.90 intake and 1.60 exhaust with 58 cc 
combustion chambers. Like wise complete.

These are the only two I would like to have. I have surfed a LOT ans had 
found noting *used*.

Any of you have such?  Contact me in a pm?

mayf

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