From dwarner230 at yahoo.com  Fri Apr  1 08:13:28 2011
From: dwarner230 at yahoo.com (dan warner)
Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 08:13:28 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Track nose on a '32 roadster.
In-Reply-To: <671473.8765.qm@web113815.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <910586.75425.qm@web113820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Crap! I tried to put the photo of the Top Fuel car in my message. Please use
your imagination.
 
DW


--- On Thu, 3/31/11, dan warner <dwarner230 at yahoo.com> wrote:


From: dan warner <dwarner230 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Track nose on a '32 roadster.
To: "Robert J. Denton" <rjdenton479 at gmail.com>, "Land Speed List"
<land-speed at autox.team.net>, ifixmgs at cox.net
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 9:35 PM



'32 Ford?

DW


--- On Thu, 3/31/11, ifixmgs at cox.net <ifixmgs at cox.net> wrote:


From: ifixmgs at cox.net <ifixmgs at cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Track nose on a '32 roadster.
To: "Robert J. Denton" <rjdenton479 at gmail.com>, "Land Speed List"
<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Date: Thursday, March 31, 2011, 8:45 PM


http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&biw=1526&bih=930&q=track+roadste
r&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=
-

--- "Robert J. Denton" <rjdenton479 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm building a street rod and I'm looking for a picture of a 32 roadster
> with a track nose instead instead of a 32 grill shell. Can anyone put me
> onto to a photo or two of one?
>
> I would really appreciate it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob Denton
>
> --
> Life should NOT be a journey
> to the grave with the intention
> of arriving safely in an attractive
> and well preserved body, but
> rather to skid in sideways,
> Tequila in one hand
> chocolate in the other,
> body thoroughly used up,
> totally worn out and screaming
> "Holy Shit, What a ride!"
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Apr 11 10:51:31 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 10:51:31 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Anniversary
Message-ID: <20110411165131.624912E09D@bradakis.com>

I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to
The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts:

It was 20 years ago today
Sargent Pepper taught the band to play


Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered.
The autocross and british car lists were already up and running
for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own
domain was a big step in a new direction.  Hard to beleive I've
been doing this for so many years.

Happy anniversary, folks!

mjb.

From daw1 at comcast.net  Mon Apr 11 14:30:50 2011
From: daw1 at comcast.net (Doug)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 16:30:50 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <20110411165131.624912E09D@bradakis.com>
References: <20110411165131.624912E09D@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <C93DEA81A4054BDFB11752F8901500A8@DougPC>

THANK YOU.  I've learned a lot about LSR, except when the children get to 
playin'.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark J Bradakis" <mark at bradakis.com>
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2011 12:51 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Anniversary


>I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to
> The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts:
>
> It was 20 years ago today
> Sargent Pepper taught the band to play
>
>
> Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered.
> The autocross and british car lists were already up and running
> for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own
> domain was a big step in a new direction.  Hard to beleive I've
> been doing this for so many years.
>
> Happy anniversary, folks!
>
> mjb.
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From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org  Mon Apr 11 15:21:29 2011
From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg)
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 17:21:29 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Anniversary
In-Reply-To: <20110411165131.624912E09D@bradakis.com>
References: <20110411165131.624912E09D@bradakis.com>
Message-ID: <2BFC1E49-029F-4785-9E41-9F1CBA25AF0B@nancyandjon.org>

Many happy returns of the Day, Mark -- and congratulations on being one of the
"old timers" that got lists - like land-speed at autox - up and running.

Signed -- Jon, a/k/a Seldom Seen Slim, the guy that's running landracing.com
-- fifteen years old, is all.



On Apr 11, 2011, at 12:51 PM, Mark J Bradakis wrote:

I imagine there are folks on the list who grew up listening to
The Beatles, and remember the Sgt. Pepper song which starts:

It was 20 years ago today
Sargent Pepper taught the band to play


Well, 20 years ago today the domain Team.Net was registered.
The autocross and british car lists were already up and running
for a while on my computer at the U of U, but getting our own
domain was a big step in a new direction.  Hard to beleive I've
been doing this for so many years.

Happy anniversary, folks!

mjb.
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g

From adin at frontier.net  Tue Apr 12 09:16:01 2011
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2011 09:16:01 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] bloodhound
Message-ID: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>

don't know if this is news:

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/default.asp?storyId=23468&utm_source=newslett
er&utm_medium=email&utm_content=html&utm_campaign=2011-4-12

downloadable plans . . . .


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database 6036 (20110412) __________

The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.

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From jpszalay01 at insightbb.com  Mon Apr 18 14:09:42 2011
From: jpszalay01 at insightbb.com (John Szalay)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 16:09:42 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>
References: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>
Message-ID: <41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>

just checking to see if I died !     nothing for a week. 

From neil at dbelltech.com  Mon Apr 18 20:31:06 2011
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:31:06 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>
References: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>
	<41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>
Message-ID: <959509DD3FCD45BCBCCD5CF8E28E3F5E@tiger>

Nope, you're alive & kicking, John. Maybe we are the only ones, though. :)

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "John Szalay" <jpszalay01 at insightbb.com>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:09 PM
To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] (no subject)

> just checking to see if I died !     nothing for a week. 
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Mon Apr 18 20:33:30 2011
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 20:33:30 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>
References: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>
	<41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>
Message-ID: <92142F3EF5F941F384BDF9C11293775B@GlenPC>

I guess your still with us. It has been quiet for awhile.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Szalay" <jpszalay01 at insightbb.com>
To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 2:09 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] (no subject)


> just checking to see if I died !     nothing for a week. 
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Apr 18 20:55:41 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 19:55:41 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <959509DD3FCD45BCBCCD5CF8E28E3F5E@tiger>
References: <96F56B3495374E6BB7ADAB067C3E074B@ZTxp>
	<41BD11C1654C4D268B9C28CDB4A7CBA2@Dell4400>
	<959509DD3FCD45BCBCCD5CF8E28E3F5E@tiger>
Message-ID: <4DACF9AD.7030705@mayfco.com>

Naw, I am here listening only these days.

mayf

On 4/18/2011 7:31 PM, Neil Albaugh wrote:
> Nope, you're alive & kicking, John. Maybe we are the only ones, 
> though. :)
>
> Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "John Szalay" <jpszalay01 at insightbb.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 18, 2011 1:09 PM
> To: "LandSpeed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] (no subject)
>
>> just checking to see if I died !     nothing for a week. 
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From mark at bradakis.com  Mon Apr 18 21:48:14 2011
From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis)
Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2011 21:48:14 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Well, shucks
Message-ID: <20110419034814.0F7E42E054@bradakis.com>

That wasn't nice.  Had a series of power bumps here at the house over
the weekend that messed with my computers, like the main Team.Net
server.  That old Dell had been rock solid reliable, with an uptime of
over 425 days.  Oh well.  Of course my computer troubles are nothing
at all compared to the tornado havoc over the weekend.  Hopefully no
listers were seriously affected.  I still remember what damage can be
done by twisters from my years in the Midwest.

When I did get the machines back up and running again a few things
didn't quite work out, some software failed to start as it should.
So you may have noticed no Team.Net email for a while.  I was at work
all day so I didn't notice until this evening.  Sorry.  We should be
back in business now, though.

Perhaps last week when I posted about 20 years of Team.Net I should
have put in a pitch for some donations to acquire some newer, more
stable hardware ( bigger UPS ) and some upgraded software.  I
certainly did recieve some donations, will hopefully get around to
thanking folks in a day or two.

So if you have a few bucks laying around and feel like helping to keep
this Team.Net experiment around for another 20 years, feel free to visit
http://www.team.net/donate.html - wait, I better update that file, the
FAX machine is printing blank faxes, another bit of hardware I'll likely
have to replace.  Computers can be so much fun.

Anyway, Team.Net email, forums and web pages should all be back to
mostly normal, thank you for your patience.

mjb.

From jgmagoo at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 13:40:56 2011
From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:40:56 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
Message-ID: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Since some of you whiz kids in the LSR community sometimes talk about 'laminar
flow', I thought some of you might find this interesting.


http://www.wimp.com/reversedlaminar/


I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who knows,
B maybe some of you may find an application.



JG

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Apr 19 14:37:17 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 13:37:17 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4DADF27D.5040507@mayfco.com>

For sure I am going to keep this. Just in case I ever race in corn 
syrup.   One thing I didn't actually see was what the spacing betwen the 
two cylinders was. And where in relation to each other in a radial 
direction the colors was placed.  That would indicate whether mixing was 
actually taking place or not or we were just viewing it  through the 
three different layers making it look like it was mixed. Also, this 
works because the corn syrup is very thick so no turbulent flow exists 
to mix in all directions.  And you are not really reversing laminar 
flow, I think entropy is not conserved in that the exact smooth colors 
were not recovered. The slight distortion is that result, maybe.

Interesting though.

mayf

On 4/19/2011 12:40 PM, jgmagoo at comcast.net wrote:
> Since some of you whiz kids in the LSR community sometimes talk about 'laminar
> flow', I thought some of you might find this interesting.
>
>
> http://www.wimp.com/reversedlaminar/
>
>
> I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who knows,
> B maybe some of you may find an application.
>
>
>
> JG
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From yesford at clear.net.nz  Tue Apr 19 16:57:24 2011
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 10:57:24 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <4DADF27D.5040507@mayfco.com>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<4DADF27D.5040507@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <310011F8C64C4F9084C1D9DE1B6F3A96@HarrisPC>

 I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who 
knows,
 B maybe some of you may find an application.

Come on Guys.........pay attention here...........corn syrup on toast is a 
great way to start your day, racing or otherwise.
Might bring some to Salt-Talks, we can enjoy after a few overs of 
cricket.................LOL.
Chris H.....................NZed. 

From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Tue Apr 19 17:34:54 2011
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:34:54 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <310011F8C64C4F9084C1D9DE1B6F3A96@HarrisPC>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><4DADF27D.5040507@mayfco.com>
	<310011F8C64C4F9084C1D9DE1B6F3A96@HarrisPC>
Message-ID: <681599757B3649C1B36E0608EA2A8923@GlenPC>

Chris
I got confused when Mayf  went into detail then I got lost. However I have 
seen colors do strange things after a night of testing moon shine in North 
Carolina when I was in the Army on a training trip. Never again. Bad-Bad 
head ache and hangover the next day.  Got salt fever yet. I do for sure.

Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris R Harris" <yesford at clear.net.nz>
To: <drmayf at mayfco.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 4:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo


> I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who 
> knows,
> B maybe some of you may find an application.
>
> Come on Guys.........pay attention here...........corn syrup on toast is a 
> great way to start your day, racing or otherwise.
> Might bring some to Salt-Talks, we can enjoy after a few overs of 
> cricket.................LOL.
> Chris H.....................NZed. 
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From wester6935 at comcast.net  Tue Apr 19 17:47:26 2011
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 17:47:26 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Today's chuckle
Message-ID: <06746B96-C948-4BA3-ABD0-0C21769B31B5@comcast.net>

http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/motorbike.html

From BWANA343 at aol.com  Tue Apr 19 17:54:43 2011
From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:54:43 EDT
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
Message-ID: <5de6d.1a01ff93.3adf7ac3@aol.com>

Mayf, 
Be careful, Entropy is on this list and sure ain't conservative. 
After reading/seeing this, I thought for sure Mayf would have some  
practical application derived from this. 
But alas, more questions. 
My take is substituting the inner cylinder for the LSR vehicle skin, the  
corn syrup colored dots for wool tufts, clear syrup for surface air, and the  
outside cylinder for the encountering laminar resistance, I find no LSR app 
 here. I'd like to, and there might be, but. 
And I'd rather see corn go to syrup than Ethanol. 
Chris, is corn syrup why you have sticky wickets ? 
BW  

From yesford at clear.net.nz  Tue Apr 19 18:02:23 2011
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 12:02:23 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <681599757B3649C1B36E0608EA2A8923@GlenPC>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<4DADF27D.5040507@mayfco.com>
	<310011F8C64C4F9084C1D9DE1B6F3A96@HarrisPC>
	<681599757B3649C1B36E0608EA2A8923@GlenPC>
Message-ID: <D5FB92B6494A4F0AB68BD44C749BF909@HarrisPC>

Got salt fever yet. I do for sure.
Glen.

Hi People, Yes indeed Glen, starting to think that 'fever' is a permanent 
condition, unfortunately won't be back till next year (every 2 years).
Son Lincoln is going your way later this year, has a great 'boys' trip lined 
up.
Going to do Hot Rod re-union at Bakersfield, NHRA at Vegas then the SEMA 
show along with all the usual attractions & distractions along the way.
If you come across them and they look lost, just drop into any post-box, 
I'll pay all costs.
Have a safe & successful racing season all.
Chris Harris............NZed.

From calkins at camspray.com  Tue Apr 19 18:19:45 2011
From: calkins at camspray.com (Justin Calkins)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:19:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Today's chuckle
In-Reply-To: <1303257197.681227736@192.168.4.58>
References: <06746B96-C948-4BA3-ABD0-0C21769B31B5@comcast.net> 
	<1303257197.681227736@192.168.4.58>
Message-ID: <1303258785.686431059@192.168.4.58>

Saw that coming, I guess the computer didn't!
 


-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011
6:47pm
To: "LAND SPEED LIST" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: [Land-speed]
Today's chuckle
http://www.angelfire.com/ak2/intelligencerreport/motorbike.html
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From jolylance at earthlink.net  Tue Apr 19 18:58:39 2011
From: jolylance at earthlink.net (Joe & Lynne Lance)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:58:39 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <FA0982AA33154E79ABA9663DB536B104@josephb4d4bd9f>

An interesting experiment---but I remember a neater one when Don Drawbaugh,
a NERVA mathematician came to our Electrical Space Propulsion Lab to do a
similitude experiment demonstrating how a gaseous core nuclear rocket engine
would work.

Don made a flattened cylindrical rocket chamber and an attached nozzle out
of clear plexiglass and used water to simulate gaseous hydrogen. He then
injected food coloring (representing gaseous fissile material) into the
central core of the swirling water. The glob of food coloring stayed firmly
in place, no mixing, no tendrils at all, and none of the food coloring
leaked out thru the nozzle.

Even old Burridge Jennings was impressed.

Always liked similitude analyses and experiments.


Lance 


-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jgmagoo at comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:41 PM
To: land-speed-digest
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo

Since some of you whiz kids in the LSR community sometimes talk about
'laminar
flow', I thought some of you might find this interesting.


http://www.wimp.com/reversedlaminar/


I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who
knows,
B maybe some of you may find an application.



JG
_______________________________________________

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Apr 19 19:49:41 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 18:49:41 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <5de6d.1a01ff93.3adf7ac3@aol.com>
References: <5de6d.1a01ff93.3adf7ac3@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4DAE3BB5.3080507@mayfco.com>

jeeze, I blew milk out my nose, lol...   " is corn syrup why you have 
sticky wickets?"......

mayf

On 4/19/2011 4:54 PM, BWANA343 at aol.com wrote:
> Mayf,
> Be careful, Entropy is on this list and sure ain't conservative.
> After reading/seeing this, I thought for sure Mayf would have some
> practical application derived from this.
> But alas, more questions.
> My take is substituting the inner cylinder for the LSR vehicle skin, the
> corn syrup colored dots for wool tufts, clear syrup for surface air, and the
> outside cylinder for the encountering laminar resistance, I find no LSR app
>   here. I'd like to, and there might be, but.
> And I'd rather see corn go to syrup than Ethanol.
> Chris, is corn syrup why you have sticky wickets ?
> BW

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Tue Apr 19 20:21:46 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 19:21:46 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <FA0982AA33154E79ABA9663DB536B104@josephb4d4bd9f>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<FA0982AA33154E79ABA9663DB536B104@josephb4d4bd9f>
Message-ID: <4DAE433A.5020908@mayfco.com>

We called it dynamic similitude.  Mass length time of one scale = Mass 
length time of another scale or system...  As said was a cool way to 
determine effects...

mayf

On 4/19/2011 5:58 PM, Joe & Lynne Lance wrote:
> An interesting experiment---but I remember a neater one when Don Drawbaugh,
> a NERVA mathematician came to our Electrical Space Propulsion Lab to do a
> similitude experiment demonstrating how a gaseous core nuclear rocket engine
> would work.
>
> Don made a flattened cylindrical rocket chamber and an attached nozzle out
> of clear plexiglass and used water to simulate gaseous hydrogen. He then
> injected food coloring (representing gaseous fissile material) into the
> central core of the swirling water. The glob of food coloring stayed firmly
> in place, no mixing, no tendrils at all, and none of the food coloring
> leaked out thru the nozzle.
>
> Even old Burridge Jennings was impressed.
>
> Always liked similitude analyses and experiments.
>
>
> Lance
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of jgmagoo at comcast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 3:41 PM
> To: land-speed-digest
> Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow&  Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
>
> Since some of you whiz kids in the LSR community sometimes talk about
> 'laminar
> flow', I thought some of you might find this interesting.
>
>
> http://www.wimp.com/reversedlaminar/
>
>
> I have no idea how this might apply to Land Speed Racing...... but who
> knows,
> B maybe some of you may find an application.
>
>
>
> JG
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From Rick at RBMotorsports.com  Wed Apr 20 07:17:24 2011
From: Rick at RBMotorsports.com (Rick Byrnes)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 09:17:24 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><FA0982AA33154E79ABA9663DB536B104@josephb4d4bd9f>
	<4DAE433A.5020908@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <28A9E2CF6D1C47189D6E33970085A9B5@Rick>

OH you rocket scientist guys are scary..

:-d

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Apr 20 09:50:17 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 08:50:17 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Laminar Flow & Reverse Laminar Flow>From>JG Magoo
In-Reply-To: <28A9E2CF6D1C47189D6E33970085A9B5@Rick>
References: <826608196.2967623.1303242056692.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net><FA0982AA33154E79ABA9663DB536B104@josephb4d4bd9f>
	<4DAE433A.5020908@mayfco.com> <28A9E2CF6D1C47189D6E33970085A9B5@Rick>
Message-ID: <4DAF00B9.2030704@mayfco.com>

you sweet talker, you...

mayf, lol.....

On 4/20/2011 6:17 AM, Rick Byrnes wrote:
> OH you rocket scientist guys are scary..
>
> :-d

From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed Apr 20 18:40:31 2011
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 17:40:31 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
Message-ID: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>

Different environments require different solutions. When a military vehicle
is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This
research may be interesting for any LSR venue. 

 

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
&id=8080536

From BWANA343 at aol.com  Wed Apr 20 19:18:49 2011
From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 21:18:49 EDT
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
Message-ID: <5e56e.463cc19.3ae0dff9@aol.com>

In a message dated 4/20/2011 8:51:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
saltfever at comcast.net writes:

Different environments require different solutions. When a military  vehicle
is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside.  This
research may be interesting for any LSR venue.  




So Mayf ? If I fill it a hemlet with Corn Syrup, hit it backwards  against 
a roll bar, will my brains go back to where I started ? Is that what he  
said ? Is Jack C reading this ? Inquiring minds, et al. 

From dwarner230 at yahoo.com  Wed Apr 20 19:36:11 2011
From: dwarner230 at yahoo.com (dan warner)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:36:11 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
Message-ID: <778317.66531.qm@web113820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Best you send this to SFI. The SCTA-BNI does not certify helmets. Thats what
we pay them for.
 
DW


 
From: Kirkwood <saltfever at comcast.net>
To:
land-speed at autox.team.net
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 5:40 PM
Subject: Re:
[Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)

Different environments require
different solutions. When a military vehicle
is hit by an IED, the results are
chaotic for the occupants inside. This
research may be interesting for any LSR
venue. 



http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
<http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
&id=8080536
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From yesford at clear.net.nz  Wed Apr 20 19:36:01 2011
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris R Harris)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 13:36:01 +1200
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
Message-ID: <DDF1331E2AA740DF8414850AE7FA8A05@HarrisPC>

Now that is a terrific article, very relevant to our sport.
Way more applicable to us than the vague demonstration made with the jar 
full of corn syrup and food coloring.
Chris Harris............NZed.

> Different environments require different solutions. When a military 
> vehicle
> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This
> research may be interesting for any LSR venue.
>
>
>
> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
> &id=8080536

From jdincau at qnet.com  Wed Apr 20 19:42:35 2011
From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 18:42:35 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <778317.66531.qm@web113820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
	<778317.66531.qm@web113820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <32672770AF2F487891C3B1CCCBBB9577@denpc>

     It looks like yet another government sponsored research project has 
discovered the obvious. 

From bobbyhotrods at comcast.net  Wed Apr 20 20:17:02 2011
From: bobbyhotrods at comcast.net (bobbyhotrods at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 02:17:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research
In-Reply-To: <1689380711.1144807.1303352032127.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <1657801995.1144919.1303352222289.JavaMail.root@sz0018a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net>

I'm so skinny, if my helmet gets any bigger I'll look like a Tootsie Pop . 

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Apr 20 21:19:14 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:19:14 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <5e56e.463cc19.3ae0dff9@aol.com>
References: <5e56e.463cc19.3ae0dff9@aol.com>
Message-ID: <4DAFA232.8070500@mayfco.com>

A couple of things I saw in the video. One is that they were talking 
about impacts and then using a compression test rig to measure 
deformation of the shock absorber inside. Actually it looked like a sink 
sponge they were testing. Second ting is they gave no specs as to what 
the Military actually ordered or what this was being compared against.  
Also, I saw no testing being carried out on real hardware. Instead they 
use a computer model to show how it could be better.  I would be far 
happier if they showed actual impact testing on the helmet to determine 
the G levels and deformations inside.  As to use in our sport? An d I am 
pretty sure that out helmets do go through impact testing to determine 
that  it meets what the SFI spec says.  If you are worried that your 
brain bucket wont hold up, heck just put on a second head sock as that 
would just about equal the 1/8 inch extra padding  they said would do 
the trick.

As to filling it with corn syrup and hitting your head backwards against 
the roll bar, no I am afraid that just makes the corn syrup act like a 
magneto fluid and it becomes instantly solid, thusly protecting the 
helmet by spattering your brain. And And hitting it backwards might 
cause a time warp in the space time continuum.  You might go into a 
wormy hole.

mayf

On 4/20/2011 6:18 PM, BWANA343 at aol.com wrote:
> In a message dated 4/20/2011 8:51:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
> saltfever at comcast.net writes:
>
> Different environments require different solutions. When a military  vehicle
> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside.  This
> research may be interesting for any LSR venue.
>
>
>
>
> So Mayf ? If I fill it a hemlet with Corn Syrup, hit it backwards  against
> a roll bar, will my brains go back to where I started ? Is that what he
> said ? Is Jack C reading this ? Inquiring minds, et al.
> _______________________________________________
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Wed Apr 20 21:20:10 2011
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (Larry Mayfield)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 20:20:10 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <32672770AF2F487891C3B1CCCBBB9577@denpc>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
	<778317.66531.qm@web113820.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
	<32672770AF2F487891C3B1CCCBBB9577@denpc>
Message-ID: <4DAFA26A.9060307@mayfco.com>

yup.

mayf

On 4/20/2011 6:42 PM, Jim Dincau wrote:
>       It looks like yet another government sponsored research project has
> discovered the obvious.
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From dahlgren536 at comcast.net  Wed Apr 20 22:50:39 2011
From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 00:50:39 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
Message-ID: <6BC8E6646756403691614A0F1891FE8F@DaveSatellite>

Wow I am impressed CT scans and computer models and no doubt a six figure 
budget per day to figure out the obvious. All they had to do was get a 
consult from a class of 3'd grade kids to tell them more padding is 
better.Lol.. You can pad a soldier until they look like the Michelin man and 
it does not help in the end they have to be able to move and not stand as 
stationary targets. We could have saved the tax payers a pile of money with 
a much more simple test that you can do at home. Get 2 eggs drop one on the 
floor and note results drop the second one on a pillow and compare the 
outcome. Hmm padding is good study over. Cost 35 cents fits on one sheet of 
paper that is not classified. What are we going to do if this secret is 
leaked out and they make even bigger bombs? then we will need a new study to 
find a solution for another 3 million only to discover that 2 extra pads 
work better than one.
sigh our tax dollars at work... This whole test would have been more 
interesting if we had the Myth Busters blowing up pigs with helmets on. That 
would have been epic with great barbecue later.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:40 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)


> Different environments require different solutions. When a military 
> vehicle
> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This
> research may be interesting for any LSR venue.
>
>
>
> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
> &id=8080536

From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed Apr 20 23:10:53 2011
From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood)
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:10:53 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Helmet Research (Army)
Message-ID: <B6AB8699540F426290F6A3FF50A10803@dim8100>

". . . You can pad a soldier until they look like the Michelin man"

 

Now that is funny, Dave.     :-)

From NT788 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 21 08:43:36 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 14:43:36 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <6BC8E6646756403691614A0F1891FE8F@DaveSatellite>
Message-ID: <925408910.4224597.1303397016431.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I think it would be better if there was an ocean and a continent between the soldiers and the bad guys! 

Jack 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net> 
To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>, land-speed at autox.team.net 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:50:39 PM 
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army) 

Wow I am impressed CT scans and computer models and no doubt a six figure 
budget per day to figure out the obvious. All they had to do was get a 
consult from a class of 3'd grade kids to tell them more padding is 
better.Lol.. You can pad a soldier until they look like the Michelin man and 
it does not help in the end they have to be able to move and not stand as 
stationary targets. We could have saved the tax payers a pile of money with 
a much more simple test that you can do at home. Get 2 eggs drop one on the 
floor and note results drop the second one on a pillow and compare the 
outcome. Hmm padding is good study over. Cost 35 cents fits on one sheet of 
paper that is not classified. What are we going to do if this secret is 
leaked out and they make even bigger bombs? then we will need a new study to 
find a solution for another 3 million only to discover that 2 extra pads 
work better than one. 
sigh our tax dollars at work... This whole test would have been more 
interesting if we had the Myth Busters blowing up pigs with helmets on. That 
would have been epic with great barbecue later. 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net> 
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:40 PM 
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army) 


> Different environments require different solutions. When a military 
> vehicle 
> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This 
> research may be interesting for any LSR venue. 
> 
> 
> 
> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health 
> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536> 
> &id=8080536 
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From neil at dbelltech.com  Thu Apr 21 10:41:28 2011
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:41:28 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <925408910.4224597.1303397016431.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <925408910.4224597.1303397016431.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <5DDA8277659D4903AEEFAD154260E553@tiger>

That only ups the ante in weaponry, Jack.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: <NT788 at comcast.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 7:43 AM
To: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net>
Cc: <land-speed at autox.team.net>; "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)

> I think it would be better if there was an ocean and a continent between 
> the soldiers and the bad guys!
>
> Jack
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net>
> To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>, land-speed at autox.team.net
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:50:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
>
> Wow I am impressed CT scans and computer models and no doubt a six figure
> budget per day to figure out the obvious. All they had to do was get a
> consult from a class of 3'd grade kids to tell them more padding is
> better.Lol.. You can pad a soldier until they look like the Michelin man 
> and
> it does not help in the end they have to be able to move and not stand as
> stationary targets. We could have saved the tax payers a pile of money 
> with
> a much more simple test that you can do at home. Get 2 eggs drop one on 
> the
> floor and note results drop the second one on a pillow and compare the
> outcome. Hmm padding is good study over. Cost 35 cents fits on one sheet 
> of
> paper that is not classified. What are we going to do if this secret is
> leaked out and they make even bigger bombs? then we will need a new study 
> to
> find a solution for another 3 million only to discover that 2 extra pads
> work better than one.
> sigh our tax dollars at work... This whole test would have been more
> interesting if we had the Myth Busters blowing up pigs with helmets on. 
> That
> would have been epic with great barbecue later.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
> To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:40 PM
> Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
>
>
>> Different environments require different solutions. When a military
>> vehicle
>> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This
>> research may be interesting for any LSR venue.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
>> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
>> &id=8080536
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From neil at dbelltech.com  Thu Apr 21 10:44:36 2011
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 09:44:36 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
In-Reply-To: <6BC8E6646756403691614A0F1891FE8F@DaveSatellite>
References: <50C418992DBE41A8A203761511B42D0A@dim8100>
	<6BC8E6646756403691614A0F1891FE8F@DaveSatellite>
Message-ID: <7A1CC617C0E94D96A48185BA5C58AABD@tiger>

:)

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

--------------------------------------------------
From: "Dave Dahlgren" <dahlgren536 at comcast.net>
Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:50 PM
To: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)

> Wow I am impressed CT scans and computer models and no doubt a six figure 
> budget per day to figure out the obvious. All they had to do was get a 
> consult from a class of 3'd grade kids to tell them more padding is 
> better.Lol.. You can pad a soldier until they look like the Michelin man 
> and it does not help in the end they have to be able to move and not stand 
> as stationary targets. We could have saved the tax payers a pile of money 
> with a much more simple test that you can do at home. Get 2 eggs drop one 
> on the floor and note results drop the second one on a pillow and compare 
> the outcome. Hmm padding is good study over. Cost 35 cents fits on one 
> sheet of paper that is not classified. What are we going to do if this 
> secret is leaked out and they make even bigger bombs? then we will need a 
> new study to find a solution for another 3 million only to discover that 2 
> extra pads work better than one.
> sigh our tax dollars at work... This whole test would have been more 
> interesting if we had the Myth Busters blowing up pigs with helmets on. 
> That would have been epic with great barbecue later.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kirkwood" <saltfever at comcast.net>
> To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 8:40 PM
> Subject: [Land-speed] New Helmet Research (Army)
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>> Different environments require different solutions. When a military 
>> vehicle
>> is hit by an IED, the results are chaotic for the occupants inside. This
>> research may be interesting for any LSR venue.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health
>> <http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/health&id=8080536>
>> &id=8080536
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From dwarner230 at yahoo.com  Sat Apr 30 12:00:36 2011
From: dwarner230 at yahoo.com (dan warner)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 11:00:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject)
Message-ID: <542097.61312.qm@web113806.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Youbll lose your control!...
http://leschevaliersdemines.be/links.php?zjPage=04p0

From jgmagoo at comcast.net  Sat Apr 30 12:54:18 2011
From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 18:54:18 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] "The Boys Of Bonneville" On Hot Rod Hotline
Message-ID: <1416328222.3532604.1304189658380.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

"The Boys Of Bonneville" on Hot Rod Hotline. 




http://www.hotrodhotline.com/pr/2011/Boys_of_Bonneville/ 





JG Magoo 

From neil at dbelltech.com  Sat Apr 30 14:11:21 2011
From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh)
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 13:11:21 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] "The Boys Of Bonneville" On Hot Rod Hotline
In-Reply-To: <1416328222.3532604.1304189658380.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
References: <1416328222.3532604.1304189658380.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <A2079F27F4054F15B6027F7FD547360B@tiger>

That movie played here in Tucson two weeks ago and everyone who saw it said 
that it was excellent. I can't wait for the DVD to be released.

Regards, Neil  Tucson, AZ

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From: <jgmagoo at comcast.net>
Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2011 11:54 AM
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Subject: [Land-speed] "The Boys Of Bonneville" On Hot Rod Hotline

> "The Boys Of Bonneville" on Hot Rod Hotline.
>
>
>
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> http://www.hotrodhotline.com/pr/2011/Boys_of_Bonneville/
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> JG Magoo

From NT788 at comcast.net  Thu Apr 21 09:31:21 2011
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 15:31:21 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] times they are a changing
In-Reply-To: <1254619241.4226494.1303398914063.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <224633357.4227465.1303399881364.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

After 6yrs. four riders and 10 records, "they" have banned (5050 Neb. IV) from
running as a sidecar."They" say I must produce an official published document
stating that laying prone forward is a crash survivable way to control a
vehicle.B 

After "they" made a 6month effort with an expertB PHD document reader she
concluded that no document exists.

Which is only fair I guess.

Jack Costella

P.S does anyone know of such a document? B