From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Sat Dec 4 09:50:26 2010 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2010 08:50:26 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] FINALY AN INTERNET EMAIL WARNING THAT IS REALLY TRUE... In-Reply-To: <874ca.2c1b0b2.3a2ae23b@aol.com> References: <874ca.2c1b0b2.3a2ae23b@aol.com> Message-ID: <4CFA7152.5060603@wildblue.net> Watch out folks! This is the first email warning I've received in over 10 years that told me something I didn't already know. And it's TRUE!! I don't have an RFID card, but if I did, it would be wrapped in aluminum foil _now._ Bryan Look for a little symbol on your card. Subj: Fw: Scary, Check it Out ! MUST WATCH!! http://www.wreg.com/videobeta/?watchId=8ba6f8fc-90a2-4711-90ea-1884ec348310 From Saltrat at pahrump.com Wed Dec 8 15:28:44 2010 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:28:44 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Parts Source Message-ID: <20101209035442.6C2F8187D92@autox.team.net> Childs and Albert is now Bruce Walker Enterprises. Google them. Skip From Saltrat at pahrump.com Wed Dec 8 15:35:14 2010 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 14:35:14 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Mechanical Turbo Boost Management Message-ID: <20101209040105.90DBB187C4B@autox.team.net> Is anybody interested in accurate control of fuel and boost using mechanical fuel injection and turbos? If so, contact me off-list. Skip From Saltrat at pahrump.com Wed Dec 8 17:12:46 2010 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 16:12:46 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] List Message-ID: <20101209041158.A7E64187910@autox.team.net> Is this thing broken???? I have sent numerous emails and nothing shows up. Skip From mark at bradakis.com Wed Dec 8 23:46:38 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Wed, 08 Dec 2010 23:46:38 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] List In-Reply-To: <20101209041158.A7E64187910@autox.team.net> References: <20101209041158.A7E64187910@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4D007B4E.70203@bradakis.com> Skip Higginbotham wrote: > Is this thing broken???? I have sent numerous emails and nothing shows > up. > Skip A few days ago I sent out a note to many, but not all, Team.Net email lists. A copy can be found here: http://www.team.net/mharc/archives/html/healeys/2010-12/msg00062.html Yes, the lists were down for a while. And I hate to say it, it wasn't because of the stuff I talked about in the message referenced above. Me and my big mouth, if I would have kept quiet this outage probably would not have happened. So it goes, but back to normal for now. mjb. From Saltrat at pahrump.com Thu Dec 9 09:15:02 2010 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 08:15:02 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] List/Injection Message-ID: <20101209161410.C10D218763F@autox.team.net> Thank you everybody, I was beginning to wonder about my email........or B.O. or......... Skip From yesford at clear.net.nz Thu Dec 9 13:56:15 2010 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris Harris) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 09:56:15 +1300 Subject: [Land-speed] List In-Reply-To: <20101209041158.A7E64187910@autox.team.net> References: <20101209041158.A7E64187910@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <8356B66F2D554223B1E2689FDCD6E7A9@ChrisHarrisPC> Skip, Coming in loud and clear 'downunder' just don't use C&A, prefer Mahle and blown fuel a bit rich for my blood........LOL. Have a great Festive and productive New Year to you & yours. Regards, Chris Harris............NZed. Is this thing broken???? I have sent numerous emails and nothing shows up. Skip _______________________________________________ From joyseydevil at comcast.net Thu Dec 9 15:03:38 2010 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:03:38 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Question Message-ID: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> Does anybody know of an engine or driveline failure on the salt that locks up to the degree that the rear tires slide until the driver gets to the clutch . From saltrat at pahrump.com Thu Dec 9 15:33:54 2010 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 14:33:54 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Question In-Reply-To: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> References: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> Message-ID: <20101209223302.5E7D1187644@autox.team.net> Engine seizure with no sprag clutch in the drivetrain??? What did you have in mind? Skip At 02:03 PM 12/9/2010, you wrote: >Does anybody know of an engine or driveline failure on the salt that locks up >to the degree that the rear tires slide until the driver gets to the clutch . From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Thu Dec 9 15:40:18 2010 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Thu, 9 Dec 2010 17:40:18 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Question In-Reply-To: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> References: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> Message-ID: <9521E4C86CFC4E5788A2677E8242C15E@DaveSatellite> Why afraid the nose heavy overhung snout is going to take a digger.. Not to worry I suspect it will pass tech right after the Propster gets his good to go card.... You do not need calculus to find the errors in design Newtonian physics and arithmetic will do just fine.. sigh.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Burk" To: "LandSpeed List" Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 5:03 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Question > Does anybody know of an engine or driveline failure on the salt that locks > up > to the degree that the rear tires slide until the driver gets to the > clutch . > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/dahlgren536 at comcast.net From mark at bradakis.com Thu Dec 9 20:16:23 2010 From: mark at bradakis.com (Mark J Bradakis) Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 20:16:23 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Question In-Reply-To: <9521E4C86CFC4E5788A2677E8242C15E@DaveSatellite> References: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> <9521E4C86CFC4E5788A2677E8242C15E@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: <4D019B87.5010406@bradakis.com> If the failure is in the driveline downstream of the clutch it seems obvious the clutch won't make a difference. So the lockup would have to be in the engine, like a broken rod, broken crank, a valve that breaks and falls into cylinder, ... mjb. From ed at vetteracing.com Thu Dec 9 21:03:30 2010 From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 04:03:30 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Question Message-ID: Heck, I do that stuff all the time on the salt in my Corvette and it still rolls real good.... to a dead stop. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Mark J Bradakis [mailto:mark at bradakis.com] Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2010 08:16 PM To: 'LandSpeed List' Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Question If the failure is in the driveline downstream of the clutch it seems obvious the clutch won't make a difference. So the lockup would have to be in the engine, like a broken rod, broken crank, a valve that breaks and falls into cylinder, ... mjb. _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ed at vetteracing.com From saltracer.bryant at gmail.com Fri Dec 10 07:56:36 2010 From: saltracer.bryant at gmail.com (Tom Bryant) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 06:56:36 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Subject: [Land-speed] Question References: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> <20101209223302.5E7D1187644@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <4D023FA3.000007.07604@TOMSCOMPUTER> Pulling it into reverse, even momentarily, will do it. I know...and a round she goes...If running an automatic, a reverse lockout is wise, if not required. Tom -------Original Message------- From: Skip Higginbotham Date: 12/09/10 14:33:34 To: John Burk; land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Question Engine seizure with no sprag clutch in the drivetrain??? What did you have in mind? Skip At 02:03 PM 12/9/2010, you wrote: >Does anybody know of an engine or driveline failure on the salt that locks up >to the degree that the rear tires slide until the driver gets to the clutch . _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltracer.bryant at gmail.com [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of faint_grain.jpg] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of xmas_girl_en.gif] From mike_lackey at yahoo.com Fri Dec 10 11:28:18 2010 From: mike_lackey at yahoo.com (Mike Lackey) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 10:28:18 -0800 (PST) Subject: [Land-speed] Question In-Reply-To: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> References: <2A6A7666784D4040B0D46DBB4198E93E@john> Message-ID: <614631.58783.qm@web30001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> It wasn't on the salt, but my brother did this in his El Camino at the top end of a drag strip (~160mph). Small block chevy broke the crank just in front of the #7 rod. What was left of the crank wedged into the block and locked everything up. I imagine the same could happen at the salt. Mike ----- Original Message ---- From: John Burk To: LandSpeed List Sent: Thu, December 9, 2010 2:03:38 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Question Does anybody know of an engine or driveline failure on the salt that locks up to the degree that the rear tires slide until the driver gets to the clutch . _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/mike_lackey at yahoo.com From saltfever at comcast.net Fri Dec 10 13:50:18 2010 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 12:50:18 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather Message-ID: <9C24C3574BB24DBC9F2ED96699678540@dim8100> Wow, Dave! That was unnecessarily brutal! You have no idea where John will locate his CG. I heard those same Newtonian physics comments from guys that said Cook & Bedwell would never break 150mph or that Chris Karamesines could never have gone 200 mph. Even though NHRA gave up on "ingenuity in action" many years ago, there is still an ingredient in LSR. Granted, safety is constraining ingenuity, but I still see vestiges of it in many classes and especially in the streamliner class. Before criticizing someone, why not take an English class and learn were to put a comma, period, or semi-colon, so it would be easier to read your blathering criticisms. BTW, where did you say you got your BSME? Happy holidays to you to. Kirk From: "Dave Dahlgren" Why afraid the nose heavy overhung snout is going to take a digger.. Not to worry I suspect it will pass tech right after the Propster gets his good to go card.... You do not need calculus to find the errors in design Newtonian physics and arithmetic will do just fine.. sigh. From joyseydevil at comcast.net Fri Dec 10 15:47:30 2010 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2010 17:47:30 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Details Message-ID: <2965C7A3072D4494BC612AAA8E302C5D@john> Dave These are some details that maybe aren't obvious about my streamliner . The CG is 7" ahead of the CP so spinning or crosswind weathervaning seem unlikely . Even without the tail wings the rear wheel lateral traction is greater than the effect of one broken front axel at full throttle in 2nd gear . In 5th gear the downforce of the wings and the tail weight can overcome 1000# of nose downforce . In the worst case on salt braking can't make the rear wheels lift . An engine fire is 5 ft and 2 firewalls away from the driver . If I've missed something please let me know . John Burk From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Sat Dec 11 07:15:11 2010 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 08:15:11 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Cleaning out the shop Message-ID: I'm trying to make some space in the shop and have a bunch of (mostly) BBC stuff to sell. I thought I'd give the guys on the list a first shot it. It's mostly OEM stuff that restorers or purists would want, rather than race parts. Email me directly if you want a list. Jim Webb Chock Full o' Nuts AA/PP A/PP B/PP C/PP D/PP ?/FL From ed at vetteracing.com Sat Dec 11 10:07:17 2010 From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:07:17 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather Message-ID: This list is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas...... not a flame-fest. Dave is entitled to his opinion even if you don't like his command of the English language. Ed -----Original Message----- From: Kirkwood [mailto:saltfever at comcast.net] Sent: Friday, December 10, 2010 01:50 PM To: land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather Wow, Dave! That was unnecessarily brutal! You have no idea where John will locate his CG. I heard those same Newtonian physics comments from guys that said Cook & Bedwell would never break 150mph or that Chris Karamesines could never have gone 200 mph. Even though NHRA gave up on "ingenuity in action" many years ago, there is still an ingredient in LSR. Granted, safety is constraining ingenuity, but I still see vestiges of it in many classes and especially in the streamliner class. Before criticizing someone, why not take an English class and learn were to put a comma, period, or semi-colon, so it would be easier to read your blathering criticisms. BTW, where did you say you got your BSME? Happy holidays to you to. Kirk From: "Dave Dahlgren" Why afraid the nose heavy overhung snout is going to take a digger.. Not to worry I suspect it will pass tech right after the Propster gets his good to go card.... You do not need calculus to find the errors in design Newtonian physics and arithmetic will do just fine.. sigh. _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/ed at vetteracing.com From saltfever at comcast.net Sat Dec 11 13:57:55 2010 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 12:57:55 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <171EB05118574FD18CDE65EB2D23EB2D@dim8100> "Free exchange of ideas" is exactly the point, Ed . . . but somehow you missed it. Dave's knowledge and experience is not in question (although I purposely put the dig in to make a point). Instead he chooses to ridicule ideas in a condescending and demeaning manner. . . and you don't consider that a flame! John said nothing to elicit such a response from Dave. If the physics bothers Dave then educate us. There are a few people on this list that can out "physics" or "EE" all of us. They choose to use their intellect in a positive, informative manner. Perhaps you consider ridicule an opinion . . . I don't. PS: Dave and I are corresponding off-list in a civil manner. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Van Scoy [mailto:ed at vetteracing.com] This list is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas...... not a flame-fest. Dave is entitled to his opinion even if you don't like his command of the English language. Ed From dahlgren536 at comcast.net Sat Dec 11 15:13:02 2010 From: dahlgren536 at comcast.net (Dave Dahlgren) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:13:02 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: <171EB05118574FD18CDE65EB2D23EB2D@dim8100> References: <171EB05118574FD18CDE65EB2D23EB2D@dim8100> Message-ID: <2C0ABC1444FA44B99DBB94A177D2D8D9@DaveSatellite> I think my so called problem of attitude is I personally have zero patience for pronouncements with no math or logic included. The last example was the balancing thing if it is a waste of time show the math that supports the theory. Back in the 80's I talked at great length with Stewart Warner engineers about balancing theory and practice so I would have a clue balancing engines with a newly purchased balancer. What I go out of the days long discussions was you can balance a poorly designed crankshaft and still be in trouble. There is a lot more to it that just making the machine happy. The real truth is balance of sorts is almost like a torque curve there is a sweet spot and a range either side of it and the goal is the get the balance spot on for the range of interest where maximum effort is required. There is a good deal of math involved that describes how it all works. I have personally made some HP gains with balance and when you start looking at the numbers they can get to crazy values. Do a Google search on John Heywood and MIT and you will find various books and papers regarding everything to do with internal combustion engines. The SAE is another good choice though the info is not free but they did generate the knowledge for free either so you get what you pay for. Personally I have thousands tied up in books that matter and SAE publications all read and most understood fairly well. Some theory some practical application and refer to them when a problem does not make sense and add to them when needed to solve a new problem. If my punctuation and spelling skills fail at times it is the way it is when you spend the better part of life working on math physics and practical applications of them the best I can do is press F7 and hope for the best. My education in writing grammar and style were personally limited for a bunch of reasons that there is no need to get into here but at the time it was a waste of time and energy in my opinion as a child and lets just leave it at that. Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kirkwood" To: "'Ed Van Scoy'" Cc: Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 3:57 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather > "Free exchange of ideas" is exactly the point, Ed . . . but somehow you > missed it. Dave's knowledge and experience is not in question (although I > purposely put the dig in to make a point). Instead he chooses to ridicule > ideas in a condescending and demeaning manner. . . and you don't consider > that a flame! John said nothing to elicit such a response from Dave. If > the physics bothers Dave then educate us. There are a few people on this > list that can out "physics" or "EE" all of us. They choose to use their > intellect in a positive, informative manner. Perhaps you consider ridicule > an opinion . . . I don't. > > > > PS: Dave and I are corresponding off-list in a civil manner. From ed at vetteracing.com Sat Dec 11 15:43:58 2010 From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 22:43:58 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather Message-ID: No, I don't consider that a flame by Dave..... He ALWAYS ridicules ideas in a condescending and demeaning manor..... It's just part of his charm ;-) . The problem with computers is there is no sarchasm font, and unless you know somebody personally, it's easy to take tounge-in-cheek humor for a put-down. I don't think Dave meant any malice in his comments, but if I am wrong, you can cut my beer ration at Bonneville for 24 hours next August....... That's about as severe a penalty that the list can impose! Ed -----Original Message----- From: Kirkwood [mailto:saltfever at comcast.net] Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2010 01:57 PM To: ''Ed Van Scoy'' Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net Subject: Dahlgren blather ?Free exchange of ideas? is exactly the point, Ed . . . but somehow you missed it. Dave?s knowledge and experience is not in question (although I purposely put the dig in to make a point). Instead he chooses to ridicule ideas in a condescending and demeaning manner. . . and you don?t consider that a flame! John said nothing to elicit such a response from Dave. If the physics bothers Dave then educate us. There are a few people on this list that can out ?physics? or ?EE? all of us. They choose to use their intellect in a positive, informative manner. Perhaps you consider ridicule an opinion . . . I don?t. PS: Dave and I are corresponding off-list in a civil manner. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Van Scoy [mailto:ed at vetteracing.com] This list is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas...... not a flame-fest. Dave is entitled to his opinion even if you don't like his command of the English language. Ed From rbeefmst at brightok.net Sat Dec 11 16:14:40 2010 From: rbeefmst at brightok.net (Bob & Bobe) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 17:14:40 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Details References: <2965C7A3072D4494BC612AAA8E302C5D@john> Message-ID: <147888BFEC75485097E695555440C51C@Ragsdale> Please be advised that we have changed our e-mail address to: br.ragsdalecattle at gmail.com We will no longer use the brightok address. Thanks Bob Ragsdale From NT788 at comcast.net Sat Dec 11 19:55:10 2010 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 02:55:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: <1645067538.74434.1292122482393.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <653153313.74459.1292122510316.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> There is no right or wrong, just hard work!B I think Dave works hard! Jack P.S. To ridicule ridicule, kinda says it all! "Free exchange of ideas" is exactly the point, Ed . . . but somehow you missed it. Dave's knowledge and experience is not in question (although I purposely put the dig in to make a point). Instead he chooses to ridicule ideas in a condescending and demeaning manner. . . and you don't consider that a flame! B John said nothing to elicit such a response from Dave. B If the physics bothers Dave then educate us. There are a few people on this list that can out "physics" or "EE" all of us. They choose to use their intellect in a positive, informative manner. Perhaps you consider ridicule an opinion . . . I don't. PS: Dave and I are corresponding off-list in a civil manner. -----Original Message----- From: Ed Van Scoy [mailto:ed at vetteracing.com] This list is supposed to be a free exchange of ideas...... not a flame-fest. Dave is entitled to his opinion even if you don't like his command of the English language. Ed _______________________________________________ Land-speed at autox.team.net Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html Archive: http://www.team.net/archive Forums: http://www.team.net/forums Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/nt788 at comcast.net From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Sat Dec 11 20:49:11 2010 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sat, 11 Dec 2010 19:49:11 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: <653153313.74459.1292122510316.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <653153313.74459.1292122510316.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4D044637.60508@wildblue.net> " P.S. To ridicule ridicule, kinda says it all! " A classic statement, Jack! Bryan From saltfever at comcast.net Sun Dec 12 02:30:53 2010 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:30:53 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: <2C0ABC1444FA44B99DBB94A177D2D8D9@DaveSatellite> Message-ID: <6D10E7377299474CB08F94991A99447B@dim8100> We are not in an English class and we don't get an "A" for the flowery use of words. This is a technical forum where we all have a common interest. We are not interested in perfect grammar. We only want to understand a technical idea, experience, or point of view. I criticized Dave's punctuation not because it had any relevance to this forum (it doesn't) but to show what criticism does. Had Dave given a technical explanation of what he perceived as flaws in John's design it would have been interesting, most likely thought provoking, and educational. Instead, he choose an uninformed, demeaning, response. No math or logic, or even showing a basic understanding of the streamliner. That is the exact symptom he says he has zero patience with in others. (see his quote below) This subject should be off-line and in PM. I see a few public replies I haven't read yet and may respond here if a public reply has any value. -Kirk -----Original Message----- From: Dave Dahlgren [mailto:dahlgren536 at comcast.net] I think my so called problem of attitude is I personally have zero patience for pronouncements with no math or logic included. -Dave From saltfever at comcast.net Sun Dec 12 02:48:14 2010 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2010 01:48:14 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Dahlgren blather In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <973A301F11F74D1CBD334707887E0100@dim8100> I have talked to Dave, in person, at Bonneville and we have always had wonderful discussions. Maybe it was because I'm twice his size! LOL. One time he was working with Turk in impound and it was very busy. Dave, stopped what he was doing and helped me understand a problem I was having with my DAQ system. I never expected such a helpful response but I can't tell you how much it was appreciated. It is too bad your sentence (below) is the on-line norm. So much knowledge and experience put to waste with put-downs. Kirk -----Original Message----- From: Ed Van Scoy [mailto:ed at vetteracing.com] No, I don't consider that a flame by Dave..... He ALWAYS ridicules ideas in a condescending and demeaning manor..... It's just part of his charm ;-)! Ed From BWANA343 at aol.com Wed Dec 15 08:26:02 2010 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 10:26:02 EST Subject: [Land-speed] LTA 2011 Dates Message-ID: <12e7ba.1d94475d.3a3a380a@aol.com> The LTA has secured a weekend in July for The Event. I'll include the address, but if it does not come through on this venue, go to the new LTA website for the info. _http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9028.msg146322.html#msg1463 22_ (http://www.landracing.com/forum/index.php/topic,9028.msg146322.html#msg146322) A lot of effort from Tim Kelly and Mark Sotomayor went into making this happen, I hope everyone appreciates it now being comfortably separate from Speed Week, which was an issue with some of our participants. Another benefit of these dates is being three weeks earlier, the days at that northern clime will be the longest in LSR, providing daylight incomparable to any other LSR venue. And, as a side trip, The Maine Potato Festival is winding up that weekend in a nearby town, so consider it as a side trip if you come up early and/or bring the family. I'm sure Tim will post particulars on it in the near future. Bob W From 23.weldon at comcast.net Wed Dec 15 09:42:14 2010 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2010 08:42:14 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] LTA 2011 Dates References: <12e7ba.1d94475d.3a3a380a@aol.com> Message-ID: <8BD3FF47CFDE44C087FE3AF84EE6C5D3@edc2750afa5a84> Maine is looking better and better as a place to live (snow is just a challenge to one's mechanical ingenuity). I won't make it in this lifetime; but maybe the next. Providing I don't come back as a lizard of which there are some current signs. .....Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 7:26 AM Subject: [Land-speed] LTA 2011 Dates > The LTA has secured a weekend in July for The Event................. > Another benefit of these dates is being three weeks earlier, the days at > that northern clime > will be the longest in LSR, providing daylight incomparable to any other > LSR venue. .......... Bob W From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Dec 14 12:00:10 2010 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 14 Dec 2010 12:00:10 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: A Christmas Story You Never Heard References: Message-ID: <3DD1ABC5-D2F4-4455-BACD-9CD4E8C25E6F@comcast.net> This took place five years ago but it's worth repeating ... > > o;? > Here's a 'today' Yule story that occurred 3 weeks ago ~ AND NOW, in time for the holidays, I bring you the best Christmas story you never heard. > > It started last Christmas, when Bennett and Vivian Levin were overwhelmed by sadness while listening to radio reports of injured American troops. "We have to let them know we care," Vivian told Bennett. So they organized a trip to bring soldiers from Walter Reed Army Medical Center and Bethesda Naval Hospital to the annual Army-Navy football game in Philly, on Dec. 3. > > The cool part is, they created their own train line to do it. Yes, there are people in this country who actually own real trains. Bennett Levin - native Philly guy, self-made millionaire and irascible former L&I commish - is one of them. > > He has three luxury rail cars. Think mahogany paneling, plush seating and white-linen dining areas. He also has two locomotives, which he stores at his Juniata Park train yard. One car, the elegant Pennsylvania, carried John F. Kennedy to the Army-Navy game in 1961 and '62. Later, it carried his brother Bobby's body to D.C. for burial. "That's a lot of history for one car," says Bennett. > > He and Vivian wanted to revive a tradition that endured from 1936 to 1975, during which trains carried Army-Navy spectators from around the country directly to the stadium where the annual game is played. The Levin's could think of no better passengers to reinstate the ceremonial ride than the wounded men and women recovering at Walter Reed in D.C. and Bethesda , in Maryland. "We wanted to give them a first-class experience," says Bennett. "Gourmet meals on board, private transportation from the train to the stadium, perfect seats - real hero treatment." > > Through the Army War College Foundation, of which he is a trustee, Bennett met with Walter Reed's commanding general, who loved the idea. But Bennett had some ground rules first, all designed to keep the focus on the troops alone: > > No press on the trip, lest the soldiers' day of pampering devolve into a media circus. > > No politicians either, because, says Bennett, "I didn't want some idiot making this trip into a campaign photo op" > > And no Pentagon suits on board, otherwise the soldiers would be too busy saluting superiors to relax. > > The general agreed to the conditions, and Bennett realized he had a problem on his hands. "I had to actually make this thing happen," he laughs. > > Over the next months, he recruited owners of 15 other sumptuous rail cars from around the country - these people tend to know each other - into lending their vehicles for the day. The name of their temporary train? The Liberty Limited. > > Amtrak volunteered to transport the cars to D.C. - where they'd be coupled together for the round-trip ride to Philly - then back to their owners later. > > Conrail offered to service the Liberty while it was in Philly. And SEPTA drivers would bus the disabled soldiers 200 yards from the train to Lincoln Financial Field, for the game. > > A benefactor from the War College ponied up 100 seats to the game - on the 50-yard line - and lunch in a hospitality suite. > > And corporate donors filled, for free and without asking for publicity, goodie bags for attendees: > > From Woolrich, stadium blankets. From Wal-Mart, digital cameras. From Nikon, field glasses. From GEAR, down jackets. > > There was booty not just for the soldiers, but for their guests, too, since each was allowed to bring a friend or family member. > > The Marines, though, declined the offer. "They voted not to take guests with them, so they could take more Marines," says Levin, choking up at the memory. > > Bennett's an emotional guy, so he was worried about how he'd react to meeting the 88 troops and guests at D.C.'s Union Station, where the trip originated. Some GIs were missing limbs. Others were wheelchair-bound or accompanied by medical personnel for the day. "They made it easy to be with them," he says. "They were all smiles on the ride to Philly. Not an ounce of self-pity from any of them. They're so full of life and determination." > > At the stadium, the troops reveled in the game, recalls Bennett. Not even Army's lopsided loss to Navy could deflate the group's rollicking mood. > > Afterward, it was back to the train and yet another gourmet meal - heroes get hungry, says Levin - before returning to Walter Reed and Bethesda. "The day was spectacular," says Levin. "It was all about these kids. It was awesome to be part of it." > > The most poignant moment for the Levins was when 11 Marines hugged them goodbye, then sang them the Marine Hymn on the platform at Union Station. > > "One of the guys was blind, but he said, 'I can't see you, but man, you must be f---ing beautiful!' " says Bennett. "I got a lump so big in my throat, I couldn't even answer him." > > It's been three weeks, but the Levins and their guests are still feeling the day's love. "My Christmas came early," says Levin, who is Jewish and who loves the Christmas season. "I can't describe the feeling in the air." Maybe it was hope. > > As one guest wrote in a thank-you note to Bennett and Vivian, "The fond memories generated last Saturday will sustain us all - whatever the future may bring." > > > God bless the Levins. > > > And bless the troops, every one. From adin at frontier.net Mon Dec 20 15:46:06 2010 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Mon, 20 Dec 2010 15:46:06 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] school me Winters quick change please? Message-ID: <8B7FA5CD605A4E2B8434F18AE8644D6A@ZTxp> Found a "unused" Winters unit out of a sprint car for cheepcheep. No quickchange gears, but brakes, hubs, r&p and so forth. Any hints appreciated. David __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5719 (20101220) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Dec 21 13:41:10 2010 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:41:10 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Ralph Lauren's garage Message-ID: <014833C7-5D2E-484D-90A3-05BFF7F824EB@comcast.net> Twenty photos that show what you can do with LOTS of money and meticulous good taste. I know I've donated my bit to his fortune and I can honestly say I have enjoyed everything I have worn with the Polo label on it. From the first Polo tie in 1967 to the most recent shirt I've never regretted a single purchase. Lucky for me I've rarely paid full retail for Polo clothing because I have worked in stores selling Polo so I had a discount or I have had access to an outlet store with an even greater discount. He doesn't restore his cars himself but I know he washes them himself before showing at Pebble Beach. He bought the Bugatti Atlantique for $3 million and paid $4 million for the very accelerated restoration but the car is jewel like as it now stands. Just look and enjoy. http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2011/01/ralph-lauren-garage-201101 From 23.weldon at comcast.net Tue Dec 21 14:03:14 2010 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 13:03:14 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Ralph Lauren's garage References: <014833C7-5D2E-484D-90A3-05BFF7F824EB@comcast.net> Message-ID: thanks, Wes --- Personally I'll vote for the 1929 Bentley. I prefer machinery that shows all its raw functional beauty without fancy coverings and makeup. ........Ed Weldon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" Subject: [Land-speed] Ralph Lauren's garage > Twenty photos that show what you can do with LOTS of money and meticulous > good > taste. > > http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2011/01/ralph-lauren-garage-201101 From adin at frontier.net Tue Dec 21 14:05:24 2010 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2010 14:05:24 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Ralph Lauren's garage References: <014833C7-5D2E-484D-90A3-05BFF7F824EB@comcast.net> Message-ID: <8DC882E197554ABAA742CFA8DEE809DF@ZTxp> See also: Speed, Style and Beauty http://www.amazon.com/Speed-Style-Beauty-Winston-Goodfellow/dp/0878466851 Ralph owns the best piece of dirt on earth (a little ranch up on the Dallas Divide) - I have seen him in his McLaren F1 (the one he keeps here) at a pancake joint in Sawpit (with the leggy supermodel.) Excellent taste. thanks for the link! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" To: "LAND SPEED LIST" Sent: Tuesday, December 21, 2010 1:41 PM Subject: [Land-speed] Ralph Lauren's garage > Twenty photos that show what you can do with LOTS of money and meticulous > good > taste. I know I've donated my bit to his fortune and I can honestly say I > have enjoyed everything I have worn with the Polo label on it. From the > first Polo tie in 1967 to the most recent shirt I've never regretted a > single > purchase. Lucky for me I've rarely paid full retail for Polo clothing > because > I have worked in stores selling Polo so I had a discount or I have had > access > to an outlet store with an even greater discount. He doesn't restore his > cars > himself but I know he washes them himself before showing at Pebble Beach. > He > bought the Bugatti Atlantique for $3 million and paid $4 million for the > very > accelerated restoration but the car is jewel like as it now stands. Just > look > and enjoy. > > http://www.vanityfair.com/style/features/2011/01/ralph-lauren-garage-201101 > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/adin at frontier.net > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 5722 (20101221) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus signature database 5722 (20101221) __________ The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. http://www.eset.com From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Fri Dec 24 18:00:05 2010 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 19:00:05 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Merry Christmas! Message-ID: <245132C010C54C448951D9B85EA7F37B@VAIO> Hopefully not breaking protocol on all the serious list discussions, to wish every one of you a very Merry Christmas! I'm dreaming of a white Christmas, but mine comes in Aug-Oct 2011!! And Happy New Year. Set off some fireworks. Break some records. Jim Webb Chock Full o' Nuts AA/PP A/PP B/PP C/PP D/PP ?/FL From Rick at RBMotorsports.com Fri Dec 24 20:16:45 2010 From: Rick at RBMotorsports.com (Rick Byrnes) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 22:16:45 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas Message-ID: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE From neil at dbelltech.com Fri Dec 24 20:31:46 2010 From: neil at dbelltech.com (Neil Albaugh) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 20:31:46 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger> Thanks, Rick-- the same to you. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rick Byrnes" Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 8:16 PM To: "land Speed List" Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas > MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com From rbuck at xmission.com Fri Dec 24 20:41:32 2010 From: rbuck at xmission.com (Ray Buck) Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2010 20:41:32 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4D1567EC.2070507@xmission.com> Merry Christmas right back atcha! Here's a Christmas greeting from the Target 550 team: http://www.target550.com/gallery/81_christmas/index.html RtR On 12/24/2010 8:16 PM, Rick Byrnes wrote: > MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/rbuck at xmission.com From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sat Dec 25 06:21:55 2010 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:21:55 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas In-Reply-To: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger> References: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger> Message-ID: Merry Christmas everybody Glen & Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: "Neil Albaugh" To: "Rick Byrnes" ; "land Speed List" Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 8:31 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Christmas > Thanks, Rick-- the same to you. > > Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Rick Byrnes" > Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 8:16 PM > To: "land Speed List" > Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas > >> MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: > http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com From websters at pyramid.net Sat Dec 25 07:51:41 2010 From: websters at pyramid.net (Dan Webster) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 06:51:41 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Merry Christmas Message-ID: <670836A21E0E4CD995E1274EC7460E9E@DanPC> Hope all of you have a Great Christmas and Happy New Year. Take care Dan Webster #313 From saltrat at pahrump.com Sat Dec 25 09:09:13 2010 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 08:09:13 -0800 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas Message-ID: <251210359.29340@webbox.com> Merry Christmas all. Skip and Joyce >--- Original Message --- >From: >To: "Neil Albaugh" , "Rick Byrnes" , "land Speed List" >Date: 12/25/2010 5:21:55 AM > Merry Christmas everybody > >Glen & Carol >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Neil Albaugh" >To: "Rick Byrnes" ; "land Speed List" > >Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 8:31 PM >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Christmas > > >> Thanks, Rick-- the same to you. >> >> Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Rick Byrnes" >> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2010 8:16 PM >> To: "land Speed List" >> Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas >> >>> MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Land-speed at autox.team.net >>> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >>> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >>> Unsubscribe/Manage: >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/neil at dbelltech.com >> _______________________________________________ >> Land-speed at autox.team.net >> Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >> Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >> Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >> Unsubscribe/Manage: >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/speedtimer at beyondbb.com >_______________________________________________ >Land-speed at autox.team.net >Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html >Archive: http://www.team.net/archive >Forums: http://www.team.net/forums >Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltrat at pahrump.com From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sat Dec 25 10:27:19 2010 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2010 12:27:19 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Merry Chrismas Message-ID: <20101225122719.7T44Z.569319.imail@fed1rmwml37> Merry Chrismas to all!!!!!!!!!! have a Joyus and safe holiday season!! Keep our guys and gals sering in the military in your thoughts and prayers. Bill and Linda From yesford at clear.net.nz Sat Dec 25 15:18:25 2010 From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris Harris) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 11:18:25 +1300 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas In-Reply-To: References: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger> Message-ID: To all good friends on our list, Have an enjoyable Christmas and a prosperous New Year in 2011. Chris Harris & Family......................New Zealand. From kturk at adelphia.net Sun Dec 26 15:52:27 2010 From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 16:52:27 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas and stuff In-Reply-To: References: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger> Message-ID: Merry Christmas guys..... just stepped into my mail after .... being remiss in my duties here.... I've been riding scooters a lot and teaching a course in motorcycle safety.... so that' pretty much been my life.... obviously we raced in Maine in August... but other then that it's pretty much what we've been doing.... Talked to Wes Potter today and mentioned I'd post my latest doings Here's a ride report I just finished... http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646128 Best wished for the season.... Keith From mactem at mebtel.net Sun Dec 26 17:54:08 2010 From: mactem at mebtel.net (David Anderson) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:54:08 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Turks Ride Message-ID: <6E4B26314A9D476F879D9D9133E1353E@OwnerPC> Keith, great story. Brought back many memories of sore butt times. Thanks for the telling. David Anderson From saltfevr at q.com Sun Dec 26 19:45:55 2010 From: saltfevr at q.com (Tom Shannon) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 19:45:55 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas and stuff In-Reply-To: References: <87B5439367444300BC88024AD1E2A03B@tiger>, , Message-ID: Thanks KT Great read!! Say hi to Tawn! Tom Shannon Magna, Utah > From: kturk at adelphia.net > To: land-speed at autox.team.net > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 16:52:27 -0600 > Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas and stuff > > Merry Christmas guys..... just stepped into my mail after .... being remiss > in my duties here.... I've been riding scooters a lot and teaching a > course in motorcycle safety.... so that' pretty much been my life.... > obviously we raced in Maine in August... but other then that it's pretty > much what we've been doing.... > > Talked to Wes Potter today and mentioned I'd post my latest doings Here's > a ride report I just finished... > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646128 > > > > Best wished for the season.... > > Keith > _______________________________________________ > Land-speed at autox.team.net > Donate: http://www.team.net/donate.html > Archive: http://www.team.net/archive > Forums: http://www.team.net/forums > Unsubscribe/Manage: http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/land-speed/saltfevr at q.com From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Dec 26 21:07:45 2010 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 23:07:45 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas and stuff In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20101226230745.BIHVX.589290.imail@fed1rmwml31> Great read KT -- I think your little 4 just did not enjoy all the extra LOAD you put on it with the Big windscreen ---- Tom Shannon wrote: > Thanks KT > Great read!! Say hi to Tawn! > > Tom Shannon > Magna, Utah > > > > > > From: kturk at adelphia.net > > To: land-speed at autox.team.net > > Date: Sun, 26 Dec 2010 16:52:27 -0600 > > Subject: [Land-speed] Christmas and stuff > > > > Merry Christmas guys..... just stepped into my mail after .... being remiss > > in my duties here.... I've been riding scooters a lot and teaching a > > course in motorcycle safety.... so that' pretty much been my life.... > > obviously we raced in Maine in August... but other then that it's pretty > > much what we've been doing.... > > > > Talked to Wes Potter today and mentioned I'd post my latest doings Here's > > a ride report I just finished... > > > > http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646128 > > > > > > > > Best wished for the season.... > > > > Keith > > _______________________________________________ From mactem at mebtel.net Tue Dec 28 10:35:11 2010 From: mactem at mebtel.net (David Anderson) Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 12:35:11 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Turks Ride In-Reply-To: References: <6E4B26314A9D476F879D9D9133E1353E@OwnerPC> Message-ID: <2B05116925884F8484BB975B0017DA00@OwnerPC> Keith, Seems to me that a holed piston mostly comes from running hot from too lean a mixture . Possible causes (and other people know a lot more than me) are: float not set right fluid build up in the float clogged jet wrong slide clogged fuel line or petcock intake manifold leak too much hot air (probably from the driver) Are you going to look at the tops of the other pistons just for curiosity? Maybe they were beginning to melt too. Preignition? I'm glad it got you home, and now you have a parts bike! Happy New Year! David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" To: "David Anderson" ; "lsr" Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 5:50 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Turks Ride > > Seems like I gave you enough information to diagnose the issue.... maybe > not.... the hole in the piston was just a final straw in the > coffin..... when that happened I suspect it got the head gasket which took > out #3 beside it.... eventually.... > > I continuously had to add more fuel to it, just to keep it happy...... So > what do you think was wrong? > > K