From saltfevr at q.com  Sun Mar  1 16:23:09 2009
From: saltfevr at q.com (Tom Shannon)
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:09 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] (nonlsr) Cobra collector & Jazz Owner passes
Message-ID: <BAY122-W2603315987EB199FD5D4B3C9A80@phx.gbl>

Utah Jazz owner and Cobra Collector, Larry Miller was laid to rest on Sat.
Feb. 28. His 4 sons, each drove one of Larrys Original Cobras in the funeral
procession.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5720629

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11808637

 Note: the specially painted Cobra casket color,one of his Auto Dealership
body shops created.
God Speed Larry
Tom Shannon
Magna, Utah

From david_dymaxion at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  2 12:26:42 2009
From: david_dymaxion at yahoo.com (David Dymaxion)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:26:42 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Land-speed] Land-speed Digest, Vol 3, Issue 58
References: <mailman.13.1236020402.32759.land-speed@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <652839.50061.qm@web32808.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Larry Miller also built the nation's longest racetrack, Miller Motorsports Park, just 90 minutes from the Salt Flats.




________________________________
Date: Sun, 1 Mar 2009 16:23:09 -0700
From: Tom Shannon <saltfevr at q.com>
Subject: [Land-speed] (nonlsr) Cobra collector & Jazz Owner passes
To: <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <BAY122-W2603315987EB199FD5D4B3C9A80 at phx.gbl>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Utah Jazz owner and Cobra Collector, Larry Miller was laid to rest on Sat.
Feb. 28. His 4 sons, each drove one of Larrys Original Cobras in the funeral
procession.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=5720629

http://www.sltrib.com/ci_11808637

Note: the specially painted Cobra casket color,one of his Auto Dealership
body shops created.
God Speed Larry
Tom Shannon
Magna, Utah

From david_dymaxion at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  2 12:32:01 2009
From: david_dymaxion at yahoo.com (David Dymaxion)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:32:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Land-speed] SUU Electric Motorcycle Streamliner
References: <mailman.13.1236020402.32759.land-speed@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <850840.50475.qm@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Southern Utah University is going to make a land speed attempt with an electric streamliner motorcycle:

http://www.eracebike.com

From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Mar  2 13:21:03 2009
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf)
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 12:21:03 -0800
Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question
Message-ID: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>

I have an old program that uses LPT1. Yes, it is that old. And maybe 
somewhere I have an old printer cable. But... isn't there some way that 
th eLPT1 port can be assigned to a USB port via the OS software?

mayf

From neil at dbelltech.com  Mon Mar  2 13:56:56 2009
From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:56:56 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question
In-Reply-To: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>
References: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <B20C2D8A5119471C85A9FEBBEA529E7A@DBTech>

Sorry, Mayf-- that's out of my league.

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ

-----Original Message-----
From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net
[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf
Sent: Monday, March 02, 2009 1:21 PM
To: LSR
Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question

I have an old program that uses LPT1. Yes, it is that old. And maybe 
somewhere I have an old printer cable. But... isn't there some way that 
th eLPT1 port can be assigned to a USB port via the OS software?

mayf
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From mike_lackey at yahoo.com  Mon Mar  2 14:43:47 2009
From: mike_lackey at yahoo.com (Mike Lackey)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 13:43:47 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question
References: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <243371.65860.qm@web30008.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Are you using Windows?

You can run this command:
NET USE LPT1:
\\MachineName\SharedPrinterName /PERSISTENT:YES

to map a shared printer to
your LPT1 port.  The shared printer can be on your local machine (use
127.0.0.1 IP address as the MachineName if it's a local printer).

Mike
----- Original Message ----
From: drmayf <drmayf at mayfco.com>
To: LSR
<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2009 12:21:03 PM
Subject:
[Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question

I have an old program that
uses LPT1. Yes, it is that old. And maybe somewhere I have an old printer
cable. But... isn't there some way that th eLPT1 port can be assigned to a USB
port via the OS software?

mayf
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From rbuck at xmission.com  Mon Mar  2 14:53:44 2009
From: rbuck at xmission.com (Ray Buck)
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2009 14:53:44 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic... Printer Port Question
In-Reply-To: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>
References: <49AC3FAF.8070807@mayfco.com>
Message-ID: <E1LeG4E-00011E-IW@mx04.mta.xmission.com>

In addition to what Mike Lackey said, a google search on this string 
"lpt to usb software" turned up a ton of hits.

hth,

RtR


At 01:21 PM 3/2/2009, drmayf wrote:
>I have an old program that uses LPT1. Yes, it is that old. And maybe 
>somewhere I have an old printer cable. But... isn't there some way 
>that th eLPT1 port can be assigned to a USB port via the OS software?
>
>mayf

From saltfevr at q.com  Mon Mar  2 16:03:37 2009
From: saltfevr at q.com (Tom Shannon)
Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 16:03:37 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] SUU Electric Motorcycle Streamliner
In-Reply-To: <850840.50475.qm@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <mailman.13.1236020402.32759.land-speed@autox.team.net>
	<850840.50475.qm@web32801.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <BAY122-W353E23FEF61F2470DBC927C9A90@phx.gbl>

Great to see another University head to the salt!! Good luck!! Thanks for the
link David..

Tom Shannon
Magna, Utah




> Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 11:32:01 -0800
> From: david_dymaxion at yahoo.com
> To: land-speed at autox.team.net
> Subject: [Land-speed] SUU Electric Motorcycle Streamliner
>
> Southern Utah University is going to make a land speed attempt with an
electric streamliner motorcycle:
>
> http://www.eracebike.com
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Mon Mar  9 14:35:35 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:35:35 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Jim Deist
Message-ID: <4A864BCDAE8148DBA8627D6F286B2162@Glens>

Racing safety and equipment pioneer Jim Deist passed away this morning. His involvement in all types of motor sports was from the heart. The many lives that were saved through his equipment and safety development speaks highly of his dedication for all racers. I have known Jim for over 50 years and got my 1st chute from him as well as all of my safety equipment. Jim was the best.
GOD SPEED JIM DEIST
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From drmayf at mayfco.com  Mon Mar  9 16:47:40 2009
From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf)
Date: Mon, 09 Mar 2009 16:47:40 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Jim Deist
In-Reply-To: <4A864BCDAE8148DBA8627D6F286B2162@Glens>
References: <4A864BCDAE8148DBA8627D6F286B2162@Glens>
Message-ID: <49B5AA9C.2090904@mayfco.com>

Well, now, that is just truly sad.  Love him or hate him, he was a 
pioneer and he did a lot of good stuf for all racers.

mayf
Glen Barrett wrote:

> Racing safety and equipment pioneer Jim Deist passed away this 
> morning. His involvement in all types of motor sports was from the 
> heart. The many lives that were saved through his equipment and safety 
> development speaks highly of his dedication for all racers. I have 
> known Jim for over 50 years and got my 1st chute from him as well as 
> all of my safety equipment. Jim was the best.
> GOD SPEED JIM DEIST
>
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From saltfevr at q.com  Mon Mar  9 17:40:50 2009
From: saltfevr at q.com (Tom Shannon)
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 18:40:50 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Jim Deist
In-Reply-To: <4A864BCDAE8148DBA8627D6F286B2162@Glens>
References: <4A864BCDAE8148DBA8627D6F286B2162@Glens>
Message-ID: <BAY122-W22081E66761FFC4F273197C9A10@phx.gbl>


Sorry to hear of Jim's passing. Was always at SW offering his expert opinion. God Speed Jim

Tom Shannon
Magna, Utah



 


From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com
To: land-speed at autox.team.net
Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:35:35 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Jim Deist




Racing safety and equipment pioneer Jim Deist passed away this morning. His involvement in all types of motor sports was from the heart. The many lives that were saved through his equipment and safety development speaks highly of his dedication for all racers. I have known Jim for over 50 years and got my 1st chute from him as well as all of my safety equipment. Jim was the best.
GOD SPEED JIM DEIST
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Sat Mar 14 07:47:24 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 08:47:24 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Frank Oddo
Message-ID: <E1EF5340A98E41A9A05B900E20F56AED@Glens>

Long time Bonneville and dry lakes racer Frank Oddo passed away on March 9th. Frank ran a flathead powered belly tank. Frank was also a writer for street rod magazine. 
RIP Frank
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From yesford at clear.net.nz  Sat Mar 14 14:02:48 2009
From: yesford at clear.net.nz (Chris Harris)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 2009 10:02:48 +1300
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
Message-ID: <2FA5CF21383E4FD7ACAB8853363626A3@ChrisHarrisPC>

I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL !
Chris Harris.............NZed.


California history -o?=


159 Years ago this week.


Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago?
California became a state.o?=
The State had no electricity.o?=
The State had no money.o?=
Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?=
There were gunfights in the streets.
So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had realo?=
breasts and the men didn't hold hands.

[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of quote.gif]

From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Sat Mar 14 14:29:21 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 15:29:21 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
References: <2FA5CF21383E4FD7ACAB8853363626A3@ChrisHarrisPC>
Message-ID: <BFAE421B6F2F4B66AD9230087F5E9D68@Glens>

Yep, not much has changed except there are 44 million in the state now.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Harris" <yesford at clear.net.nz>
To: "Land speed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 3:02 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.


>I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL !
> Chris Harris.............NZed.
>
>
> California history -o?=
>
>
> 159 Years ago this week.
>
>
> Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago?
> California became a state.o?=
> The State had no electricity.o?=
> The State had no money.o?=
> Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?=
> There were gunfights in the streets.
> So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had realo?=
> breasts and the men didn't hold hands.
>
> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/gif which had a name of 
> quote.gif]
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From dlodom at charter.net  Sat Mar 14 18:05:34 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 2009 18:05:34 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
References: <2FA5CF21383E4FD7ACAB8853363626A3@ChrisHarrisPC>
Message-ID: <000801c9a50a$26fe0f10$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

Sad but very true.  They killed the goose that lays the golden eggs with 
taxes and stupid laws and now they are telling us there are no eggs!!!!!!!!

Doug

>I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL !
> Chris Harris.............NZed.
>
>
> California history -o?=
>
>
> 159 Years ago this week.
>
>
> Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago?
> California became a state.o?=
> The State had no electricity.o?=
> The State had no money.o?=
> Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?=
> There were gunfights in the streets.
> So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had realo?=
> breasts and the men didn't hold hands.
>
> [ 

From NT788 at comcast.net  Mon Mar 16 09:55:02 2009
From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 16:55:02 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
In-Reply-To: <000801c9a50a$26fe0f10$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
Message-ID: <1153213164.12734941237222502634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

I'm moving to Alaska and keep an eye on Russia! 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net> 
To: "Chris Harris" <yesford at clear.net.nz>, "Land speed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net> 
Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:05:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR. 

Sad but very true. They killed the goose that lays the golden eggs with 
taxes and stupid laws and now they are telling us there are no eggs!!!!!!!! 

Doug 

>I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL ! 
> Chris Harris.............NZed. 
> 
> 
> California history -o?= 
> 
> 
> 159 Years ago this week. 
> 
> 
> Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago? 
> California became a state.o?= 
> The State had no electricity.o?= 
> The State had no money.o?= 
> Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?= 
> There were gunfights in the streets. 
> So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had realo?= 
> breasts and the men didn't hold hands. 
> 
> [ 
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From dlodom at charter.net  Mon Mar 16 10:33:16 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 10:33:16 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
References: <1153213164.12734941237222502634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <00e701c9a65d$4b445ab0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

Better be carefull Jack. I don't think the fiberglass ever cures up there. It
just freezes and then in the summer time it melts again.   LOL

  Doug in big ditch
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: NT788 at comcast.net
  To: Doug Odom
  Cc: Chris Harris ; Land speed list
  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:55 AM
  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.


  I'm moving to Alaska and keep an eye on Russia!




  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net>
  To: "Chris Harris" <yesford at clear.net.nz>, "Land speed list"
<land-speed at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:05:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.

  Sad but very true.  They killed the goose that lays the golden eggs with
  taxes and stupid laws and now they are telling us there are no eggs!!!!!!!!

  Doug

  >I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL !
  > Chris Harris.............NZed.
  >
  >
  > California history -o?=
  >
  >
  > 159 Years ago this week.
  >
  >
  > Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago?
  > California became a state.o?=
  > The State had no electricity.o?=
  > The State had no money.o?=
  > Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?=
  > There were gunfights in the streets.
  > So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had realo?=
  > breasts and the men didn't hold hands.
  >
  > [
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From d.pulju at pahrump.com  Mon Mar 16 13:16:52 2009
From: d.pulju at pahrump.com (Dale Pulju)
Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 13:16:52 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
In-Reply-To: <00e701c9a65d$4b445ab0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
References: <1153213164.12734941237222502634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
	<00e701c9a65d$4b445ab0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
Message-ID: <E1FC9610FF8C421D995F7F3A8989DFCA@userPC>

lived there 30 tears, no cars, just boat and airplanes
dale in pahrump

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net>
To: <NT788 at comcast.net>
Cc: "Land speed list" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.


> Better be carefull Jack. I don't think the fiberglass ever cures up there. 
> It
> just freezes and then in the summer time it melts again.   LOL
>
>  Doug in big ditch
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: NT788 at comcast.net
>  To: Doug Odom
>  Cc: Chris Harris ; Land speed list
>  Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:55 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
>
>
>  I'm moving to Alaska and keep an eye on Russia!
>
>
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net>
>  To: "Chris Harris" <yesford at clear.net.nz>, "Land speed list"
> <land-speed at autox.team.net>
>  Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:05:34 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
>  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Fw: California non LSR.
>
>  Sad but very true.  They killed the goose that lays the golden eggs with
>  taxes and stupid laws and now they are telling us there are no 
> eggs!!!!!!!!
>
>  Doug
>
>  >I was just sent this quote.............is this true.........LOL !
>  > Chris Harris.............NZed.
>  >
>  >
>  > California history -o?=
>  >
>  >
>  > 159 Years ago this week.
>  >
>  >
>  > Do you know what happened this week back in 1850, 159 years ago?
>  > California became a state.o?=
>  > The State had no electricity.o?=
>  > The State had no money.o?=
>  > Almost everyone spoke Spanish.o?=
>  > There were gunfights in the streets.
>  > So basically, it was just like it is today, except the women had 
> realo?=
>  > breasts and the men didn't hold hands.
>  >
>  > [
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From lsr_man at yahoo.com  Wed Mar 18 06:17:36 2009
From: lsr_man at yahoo.com (Dick J)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 06:17:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8s
Message-ID: <694482.39051.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

What OHV V8s had three exhaust ports?  Didn't the original Olds Rocket have
only 3?  How about the eary Cad?  Any others?
 
DickJ
In East Texas

From sparky.2211 at cox.net  Wed Mar 18 06:33:09 2009
From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 9:33:09 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8s
In-Reply-To: <694482.39051.qm@web30703.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20090318093309.6MLT9.188372.imail@fed1rmwml33>

Pontiac---


---- Dick J <lsr_man at yahoo.com> wrote: 
> What OHV V8s had three exhaust ports?  Didn't the original Olds Rocket have
> only 3?  How about the eary Cad?  Any others?
>  
> DickJ
> In East Texas

From gmc6power at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 18 06:51:49 2009
From: gmc6power at earthlink.net (James Tone)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 09:51:49 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8s
Message-ID: <11309464.1237384309603.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

I'm concerned with your subject matter. In SCTA/BNI there are no Vintage OHV V-8's. If it just concerns 3-port exhaust of a single side of a V-8 cylinder head no problem. 

-----Original Message-----
>From: Dick J <lsr_man at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Mar 18, 2009 9:17 AM
>To: lsr list autox <land-speed at autox.team.net>
>Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8s
>
>What OHV V8s had three exhaust ports?  Didn't the original Olds Rocket have
>only 3?  How about the eary Cad?  Any others?
> 
>DickJ
>In East Texas
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From zoombot at cox.net  Wed Mar 18 12:59:41 2009
From: zoombot at cox.net (Pile,Chris)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:59:41 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8's
Message-ID: <0DA56D7112F840D6A24CF532E57393F4@HomePC>

    Dick J. & List -

    Studebaker and Packard both had 3 port exhaust on their early OHV V8's.

    - Chris Pile aka aircap

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Wed Mar 18 15:52:26 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:52:26 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Vintage OHV V8s
Message-ID: <74218023F4EE4835893CD20933110084@john>

The 1917 Chevy v8 probably had less than 8 exhaust ports .



> What OHV V8s had three exhaust ports?  Didn't the original Olds Rocket 
> have
> only 3?  How about the eary Cad?  Any others?
>
> DickJ
> In East Texas

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Wed Mar 18 18:43:17 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:43:17 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] What Evil Knievel's Great Grandfather rode
Message-ID: <48DB0A5C25634669BC38EEDEDFE79BB1@john>

http://www.the-blueprints.com/index.php?blueprints/motorcycles/tempmotorcycle
s/12569/view/curtiss_v8_1907/

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Wed Mar 18 18:54:52 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:54:52 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Evil Knievel GGF II
Message-ID: <96CAD7E83FDB44AF9798D0B54E27CFE8@john>

http://www.nasm.si.edu/imagedetail.cfm?imageID=988

From jolylance at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 18 19:27:05 2009
From: jolylance at earthlink.net (joseph lance)
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 22:27:05 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Evil Knievel GGF II
References: <96CAD7E83FDB44AF9798D0B54E27CFE8@john>
Message-ID: <002301c9a83a$320b9840$2101a8c0@WinXP>

I'm not sure which Curtiss bike that is--last time I was at the Curtiss 
museum in NY State ( ~15 miles west of Watkins Glen) they had his V8 bike 
that he rode at Daytona Beach (108 mph in 1905 ? don't remember exactly). It 
was a narrow angle OHV V8 with the rocker arms, pushrods, valves & springs 
completely exposed.

Probably gave him an oily crotch and trailed smoke when he rode it.

Lance

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Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 9:54 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Evil Knievel GGF II


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From boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com  Thu Mar 19 07:00:56 2009
From: boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com (Doug .............)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:00:56 +0000
Subject: [Land-speed] Evil Knievel GGF II
In-Reply-To: <96CAD7E83FDB44AF9798D0B54E27CFE8@john>
References: <96CAD7E83FDB44AF9798D0B54E27CFE8@john>
Message-ID: <SNT108-W30A7FFB1B9D78CBF7B7D1DD9960@phx.gbl>

what year bike is this Curtiss  John?

      it's waaaaaay Kool.  I'd -LOVE-  to ride it!


c heers,   'Dirt Track Doug '



       -105 + miles south of the world famous 'Syracuse
Mile '
       -241.4  miles north of the Williams Grove Speedway pit gate
       -2247  or so miles due east of the marvelous Bonneville Salt
Flats

but never more than a few feet from a cold one         Cold Beer, Hot Blues,
and warm willin' wimin' is what we're all about....

             Speedway Bikes, Minibikes and Harley- D's rode with equal joy,
Dog Training,   Bear neutering,  Emergency Airship repair,  Hot air ,
                  Aerial Surveillance, Corrupt Politicians exposed,  Midgets,
Sprint Cars

                              -and 'Slide Jobs'  truly appreciated  for the
FINE ART  that they are




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From DavidAdin at mercydurango.org  Thu Mar 19 13:31:30 2009
From: DavidAdin at mercydurango.org (Adin, David)
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 14:31:30 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] newsy stuff.
Message-ID: <F65754F39ABABE41B43CC86C276D4D05290E98@chimsx015.CHI.catholichealth.net>

A motorbike once owned by Invercargill motorcycling legend Burt Munro is
to go on display in Auckland after being bought by a businessman last
night for $71,000.
The 1936 Duncan Meikle Velocette, marketed by Webb's auctioneers as a
piece of history, went for more than twice the $35,000 it was expected
to fetch.
Auckland businessman Kevin Harvey said he was not sure how much higher
he would have been prepared to go in his quest to ensure the bike stayed
in New Zealand.
The life of Munro was "just such a fantastic story" and "it's a
beautiful bike", he said.
He intended to put the motorcycle somewhere on permanent display in
Auckland's Parnell Village.
Tim Hanna, author of One Good Run - The Legend of Burt Munro, told Radio
New Zealand he was taken aback by the amount the motorcycle fetched
"It just goes to show that Burt has made iconagraphic status in this
country, he's right up there," he said.
"There's quite a bit of Burt memorabilia around the countryside, it'll
be interesting to see if it comes out of the woodwork now."

Munro's story was told in the movie, The World's Fastest Indian, in
2005.
Munro was famous for setting an under-1000cc world record of 183.586mph
(295.453km/h), at Bonneville salt flats, Utah, in August 1967.
The record still stands.

From dlodom at charter.net  Sat Mar 21 19:13:50 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:13:50 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
Message-ID: <038401c9aa93$d8f21cf0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

Did anyone else get this message?   Does anyone know if its real?        Doug
in big ditch


NHRA has received notice from SFI, Inc. that a Notice of Decertification was
issued today to Impact Racing Products, Inc. regarding certain products
(listed below), and that Impact will issue a Notice of Recall of such
products. Therefore, effective immediately, the products listed below will no
longer be accepted for use in NHRA racing. We understand that Impact will
issue a recall notice tomorrow, March 20, 2009.




Please consult www.impactraceproducts.com for information or contact Impact
directly.
The products are:



. Driver suits, pants and jackets manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant
with SFI Specification 3.2A/15 or 3.
2A/20

. Driver shoes and boots manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant with SFI
Specification 3.3/15 or 3.
3/20



SFI has informed NHRA that products manufactured in 2007 and 2009 are being
further evaluated by SFI.

From wolcott_jl at yahoo.com  Sat Mar 21 19:30:38 2009
From: wolcott_jl at yahoo.com (Joel Wolcott)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:30:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
In-Reply-To: <038401c9aa93$d8f21cf0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
References: <038401c9aa93$d8f21cf0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
Message-ID: <778857.53324.qm@web110615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

Its on their website.




________________________________
From: Doug Odom <dlodom at charter.net>
To: landspeed <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:13:50 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall

Did anyone else get this message?   Does anyone know if its real?        Doug
in big ditch


NHRA has received notice from SFI, Inc. that a Notice of Decertification was
issued today to Impact Racing Products, Inc. regarding certain products
(listed below), and that Impact will issue a Notice of Recall of such
products. Therefore, effective immediately, the products listed below will no
longer be accepted for use in NHRA racing. We understand that Impact will
issue a recall notice tomorrow, March 20, 2009.




Please consult www.impactraceproducts.com for information or contact Impact
directly.
The products are:



. Driver suits, pants and jackets manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant
with SFI Specification 3.2A/15 or 3.
2A/20

. Driver shoes and boots manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant with SFI
Specification 3.3/15 or 3.
3/20



SFI has informed NHRA that products manufactured in 2007 and 2009 are being
further evaluated by SFI.
Land-speed mailing list

You are subscribed as wolcott_jl at yahoo.com

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From dlodom at charter.net  Sat Mar 21 19:48:33 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Sat, 21 Mar 2009 19:48:33 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
References: <038401c9aa93$d8f21cf0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
	<778857.53324.qm@web110615.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <038f01c9aa98$b1184b00$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

I was not able to get their website to come up till now. Don't know if it was
me or them.      Doug
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Joel Wolcott
  To: Doug Odom
  Cc: land-speed at autox.team.net
  Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 7:30 PM
  Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall


  Its on their website.




-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
  From: Doug Odom <dlodom at charter.net>
  To: landspeed <land-speed at autox.team.net>
  Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2009 10:13:50 PM
  Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall

  Did anyone else get this message?  Does anyone know if its real?
Doug
  in big ditch


  NHRA has received notice from SFI, Inc. that a Notice of Decertification
was
  issued today to Impact Racing Products, Inc. regarding certain products
  (listed below), and that Impact will issue a Notice of Recall of such
  products. Therefore, effective immediately, the products listed below will
no
  longer be accepted for use in NHRA racing. We understand that Impact will
  issue a recall notice tomorrow, March 20, 2009.




  Please consult www.impactraceproducts.com for information or contact Impact
  directly.
  The products are:



  . Driver suits, pants and jackets manufactured in 2008 identified as
compliant
  with SFI Specification 3.2A/15 or 3.
  2A/20

  . Driver shoes and boots manufactured in 2008 identified as compliant with
SFI
  Specification 3.3/15 or 3.
  3/20



  SFI has informed NHRA that products manufactured in 2007 and 2009 are being
  further evaluated by SFI.
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From saltfever at comcast.net  Wed Mar 25 01:37:42 2009
From: saltfever at comcast.net (saltfever)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:37:42 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
Message-ID: <003101c9ad24$f74175a0$e5c460e0$@net>

Here is more information from their web site.

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM BILL SIMPSON

 

2008 SFI-15 and SFI-20 Products

Impact Racing is not recalling its SFI 15 and 20 Products. But as a service
to you, our

customer, we would like to inspect your fire suit and/or boots with an SFI
15 or 20 tag

only, dated 2008. There is not a question as to the safety, dependability
and quality of

your fire suit or drag boot. 36 suits have already been inspected and they
meet SFI

certification. We believe that we have been in contact with most of our
customers but if

you haven't heard from us please contact our main office at 317-852-3067 so
we can

address your needs and answer any questions you may have.

Thank you for choosing Impact Racing. I stand behind all of my products with
50 years

of experience and devotion to the safety of the racing industry.

Bill Simpson

From saltrat at pahrump.com  Wed Mar 25 07:08:47 2009
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:08:47 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
In-Reply-To: <003101c9ad24$f74175a0$e5c460e0$@net>
References: <003101c9ad24$f74175a0$e5c460e0$@net>
Message-ID: <20090325150737.4A3E3187646@autox.team.net>

Well, which is it????? NHRA and SFI sites say it is a recall and 
Simpson says it is not. What gives? What is the problem? Someone 
needs to clarify this.

Skip




At 01:37 AM 3/25/2009, saltfever wrote:
>Here is more information from their web site.
>
>
>
>FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>
>IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM BILL SIMPSON
>
>
>
>2008 SFI-15 and SFI-20 Products
>
>Impact Racing is not recalling its SFI 15 and 20 Products. But as a service
>to you, our
>
>customer, we would like to inspect your fire suit and/or boots with an SFI
>15 or 20 tag.........................

From ed at vetteracing.com  Wed Mar 25 08:49:28 2009
From: ed at vetteracing.com (Ed Van Scoy)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:49:28 +0000
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
Message-ID: <W9587121948132411237996168@webmail29>

Skip,
As I understand it, it is a decertification by NHRA.... For some reason, they
must not like his belts and suits (love to know why) but they could care less
whether Bill recalls his products, they just won't let competitors race with
them. I am hoping Simpson and NHRA can come to some reasonable conclusion on
this.
Ed V
-----Original Message-----
From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat at pahrump.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 07:08 AM
To: 'saltfever', land-speed at autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall

Well, which is it????? NHRA and SFI sites say it is a recall and Simpson says
it is not. What gives? What is the problem? Someone needs to clarify this.
Skip At 01:37 AM 3/25/2009, saltfever wrote: >Here is more information from
their web site. > > > >FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM
BILL SIMPSON > > > >2008 SFI-15 and SFI-20 Products > >Impact Racing is not
recalling its SFI 15 and 20 Products. But as a service >to you, our >
>customer, we would like to inspect your fire suit and/or boots with an SFI
>15 or 20 tag

From saltrat at pahrump.com  Wed Mar 25 09:15:00 2009
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:15:00 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
In-Reply-To: <W9587121948132411237996168@webmail29>
References: <W9587121948132411237996168@webmail29>
Message-ID: <20090325171350.B3C3D187663@autox.team.net>

Thanks Ed,
I wonder if USFRA and SCTA/BNI will allow the suits and boots in 
question. I will send a note.
Skip




At 08:49 AM 3/25/2009, Ed Van Scoy wrote:
>Skip,
>As I understand it, it is a decertification by NHRA.... For some 
>reason, they must not like his belts and suits (love to know why) 
>but they could care less whether Bill recalls his products, they 
>just won't let competitors race with them. I am hoping Simpson and 
>NHRA can come to some reasonable conclusion on this.
>Ed V
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Skip Higginbotham [mailto:saltrat at pahrump.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 07:08 AM
>To: 'saltfever', land-speed at autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
>
>Well, which is it????? NHRA and SFI sites say it is a recall and 
>Simpson says it is not. What gives? What is the problem? Someone 
>needs to clarify this. Skip At 01:37 AM 3/25/2009, saltfever 
>wrote: >Here is more information from their web site. > > > >FOR 
>IMMEDIATE RELEASE > >IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM BILL SIMPSON > > >

From saltrat at pahrump.com  Wed Mar 25 12:54:45 2009
From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:54:45 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
Message-ID: <20090325205341.460DD187660@autox.team.net>

Thanks Glen,
I already sent a note. We'll see what the answer is. I would think 
that the owners of suspect suits and boots should get them 
recertified if they can. But would they be allowed even then? I am 
just guessing...............
Skip



At 12:16 PM 3/25/2009, Glen Barrett wrote:
>Ship
>I notified them a coupe of days ago.
>Glen
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>
>To: "Ed Van Scoy" <ed at vetteracing.com>; "saltfever" 
><saltfever at comcast.net>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
>Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 10:15 AM
>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
>
>
>>Thanks Ed,
>>I wonder if USFRA and SCTA/BNI will allow the suits and boots in
>>question. I will send a note.
>>Skip
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 08:49 AM 3/25/2009, Ed Van Scoy wrote:
>>>Skip,
>>>As I understand it, it is a decertification by NHRA.... For some
>>>reason, they must not like his belts and suits (love to know why)
>>>but they could care less whether Bill recalls his products, they
>>>just won't let competitors race with them. I am hoping Simpson and
>>>NHRA can come to some reasonable conclusion on this.
>>>Ed V

From dlodom at charter.net  Wed Mar 25 13:58:46 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:58:46 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
References: <20090325205341.460DD187660@autox.team.net>
Message-ID: <03f601c9ad8c$7da28780$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

I think SCTA should ask NHRA what their problem with Impact is. SCTA does 
not use the same rules as NHRA ( thank God ) but it might be interesting to 
find out why NHRA did what it did.  Just my 2 cents from sunny big ditch. 
Doug
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>
To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall


> Thanks Glen,
> I already sent a note. We'll see what the answer is. I would think that 
> the owners of suspect suits and boots should get them recertified if they 
> can. But would they be allowed even then? I am just 
> guessing...............
> Skip

From gmc6power at earthlink.net  Wed Mar 25 14:20:57 2009
From: gmc6power at earthlink.net (James Tone)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:20:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
Message-ID: <26085554.1238016057342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>

For all remember this NOT Simpson Racing products suits. It's IMPACT 2008-9 only. Sometimes we over think all of this....Good luck

>>
>>IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM BILL SIMPSON
>>
>>
>>
>>2008 SFI-15 and SFI-20 Products
>>
>>Impact Racing is not recalling its SFI 15 and 20 Products. But as a service
>>to you, our
>>
>>customer, we would like to inspect your fire suit and/or boots with an SFI
>>15 or 20 tag.........................

From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Wed Mar 25 14:25:35 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:25:35 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
References: <20090325205341.460DD187660@autox.team.net>
	<03f601c9ad8c$7da28780$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
Message-ID: <8FE1D17CF5254953B015D67E8627CFCC@Glens>

I had sent this information the day I received it to SCTA,ECTA and USFRA. I 
am sure it's being looked into by all assoc's. As we are a member of SEMA 
the reasons why they will notify all members of what the problem is.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net>
To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>; 
"Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 2:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall


>I think SCTA should ask NHRA what their problem with Impact is. SCTA does 
>not use the same rules as NHRA ( thank God ) but it might be interesting to 
>find out why NHRA did what it did.  Just my 2 cents from sunny big ditch. 
>Doug
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>
> To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 12:54 PM
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
>
>
>> Thanks Glen,
>> I already sent a note. We'll see what the answer is. I would think that 
>> the owners of suspect suits and boots should get them recertified if they 
>> can. But would they be allowed even then? I am just 
>> guessing...............
>> Skip

From ddahlgren at snet.net  Wed Mar 25 14:29:00 2009
From: ddahlgren at snet.net (Dave Dahlgren)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:29:00 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
In-Reply-To: <26085554.1238016057342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
References: <26085554.1238016057342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <769F6692FA46427EA44259751391646C@DaveSatellite>

If and only if Impact is the Simpson offshore division that has things made 
out of the country and they all be not usable and all those that bought 
spank bill.. untill he wants to return all the money and then pay for the 
problem on top of it....
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "James Tone" <gmc6power at earthlink.net>
To: "Skip Higginbotham" <saltrat at pahrump.com>; "saltfever" 
<saltfever at comcast.net>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 25, 2009 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall


> For all remember this NOT Simpson Racing products suits. It's IMPACT 
> 2008-9 only. Sometimes we over think all of this....Good luck
>
>>>
>>>IMPORTANT - A MESSAGE FROM BILL SIMPSON
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>2008 SFI-15 and SFI-20 Products
>>>
>>>Impact Racing is not recalling its SFI 15 and 20 Products. But as a 
>>>service
>>>to you, our
>>>
>>>customer, we would like to inspect your fire suit and/or boots with an 
>>>SFI
>>>15 or 20 tag.........................
> _______________________________________________
> Support Team.Net  http://www.team.net/donate.html
>
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From jdincau at qnet.com  Wed Mar 25 15:33:07 2009
From: jdincau at qnet.com (Jim Dincau)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 15:33:07 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] NHRA Product Recall
In-Reply-To: <769F6692FA46427EA44259751391646C@DaveSatellite>
References: <26085554.1238016057342.JavaMail.root@mswamui-chipeau.atl.sa.earthlink.net>
	<769F6692FA46427EA44259751391646C@DaveSatellite>
Message-ID: <AB042B3C06A54AD3B712B90D902BCCA2@denpc>

Bill Simpson no longer owns the company that bears his name, has not for 
some time. Impact is a separate company that he started a few years ago.
Jim



> If and only if Impact is the Simpson offshore division that has things 
> made out of the country and they all be not usable and all those that 
> bought spank bill.. untill he wants to return all the money and then pay 
> for the problem on top of it....
> Dave

From joetimney at dol.net  Wed Mar 25 19:19:47 2009
From: joetimney at dol.net (Joe Timney)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 21:19:47 -0500
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
Message-ID: <49CAE643.7000004@dol.net>

Very Sad!!!


PRESS RELEASE:

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All Machinery, $2+ Million in Inventory, 16 Trademarks & 3 Patents for Sale

LiquiTec Industries, Inc. has been engaged to liquidate the assets of 
Crane Cams, Inc., one of the world's largest independent manufacturers 
of camshafts, valve train components and electrical ignition systems for 
the performance industry. Established in 1953, Crane Cams. is a brand 
name recognized for high quality, precision products that are 
race-proven to withstand the rigors of competition. Product applications 
include automotive, motorcycle, marine, aircraft and other specialty 
markets.

The sale includes all machinery; all raw materials, work-in-process and 
finished goods including over $2 million of high performance and racing 
application engine components including camshafts, rocker arms, lifters 
and other parts for most GM, Ford and Mopar engines; 16 patents and 
three patents.

LiquiTec is accepting bids now for inventory, trademarks and patents. An 
auction sale of all remaining inventory and machinery will take place on 
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at the company's former headquarters in 
Daytona Beach, Florida. The sale will also be broadcast over the 
internet via BidSpotter.com. For more information or to register to 
attend the sale, contact LiquiTec at (800) 852-9252.

From fosterap at flash.net  Thu Mar 26 06:50:25 2009
From: fosterap at flash.net (JERRY FOSTER)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 06:50:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
In-Reply-To: <49CAE643.7000004@dol.net>
Message-ID: <780826.15270.qm@web80605.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

That's too bad.  I had heard that they might re-organize and try to come
back.  Looks like that's not to be.  Jerry in Dallas

--- On Wed, 3/25/09, Joe Timney <joetimney at dol.net> wrote:

From: Joe Timney <joetimney at dol.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
To: "LAND SPEED LIST" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Date: Wednesday, March 25, 2009, 9:19 PM

Very Sad!!!


PRESS RELEASE:

LIQUIDATION OF CRANE CAMS, INC. ANNOUNCED

Complete High Performance Camshaft Manufacturer
All Machinery, $2+ Million in Inventory, 16 Trademarks & 3 Patents for Sale

LiquiTec Industries, Inc. has been engaged to liquidate the assets of Crane
Cams, Inc., one of the world's largest independent manufacturers of
camshafts, valve train components and electrical ignition systems for the
performance industry. Established in 1953, Crane Cams. is a brand name
recognized for high quality, precision products that are race-proven to
withstand the rigors of competition. Product applications include automotive,
motorcycle, marine, aircraft and other specialty markets.

The sale includes all machinery; all raw materials, work-in-process and
finished goods including over $2 million of high performance and racing
application engine components including camshafts, rocker arms, lifters and
other parts for most GM, Ford and Mopar engines; 16 patents and three
patents.

LiquiTec is accepting bids now for inventory, trademarks and patents. An
auction sale of all remaining inventory and machinery will take place on
Wednesday, April 22, 2009 at the company's former headquarters in Daytona
Beach, Florida. The sale will also be broadcast over the internet via
BidSpotter.com. For more information or to register to attend the sale,
contact
LiquiTec at (800) 852-9252.

From saltfever at comcast.net  Thu Mar 26 11:50:17 2009
From: saltfever at comcast.net (saltfever)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 11:50:17 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
Message-ID: <000001c9ae43$b5920fa0$20b62ee0$@net>

I could be wrong but I thought that Crane was reorganized into one of the
first employee-owned-companies about 10 or 15 years ago. . . a very
progressive idea. I wonder what happened? Is Comp Cams going to gobble up
the industry! 

From FastmetalBDF at aol.com  Thu Mar 26 12:35:15 2009
From: FastmetalBDF at aol.com (FastmetalBDF at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:35:15 EDT
Subject: [Land-speed] Mikronite bought Crane Cams in 2006 ......
Message-ID: <cb3.50ee68d4.36fd32f3@aol.com>

Remembering Ollie Olsen's Crane Cam sponsored  stormin' A/Gas '40 or '41
Willys coupe featured in the pages of HRM back in the  Sixties !   ~



February 24, 2009

Crane Cams shuts  down, workers laid off

By JIM WITTERS
Senior Business Writer

DAYTONA BEACH b Crane Cams, a 56-year-old auto parts manufacturer,  closed
its doors this week and laid off its employees, a worker said  today.

The news took Volusia Countybs top economic development  officer by
surprise.
City, county and state officials were working with  Crane Cams and officials
from its New Jersey parent, Mikronite  Technologies, to keep the company open
and in the community.

bWe  were trying to help them through this transition,b said Rick Michael,
Volusia County economic development director. bThey were considering a
transfer of ownership. We were not expecting any closure.b

An  automated voice mail system at Cranebs plant on Fentress Boulevard
announced at midday today the company was closed and suggested calling  back
during
business hours, 8 a.m. to 5 p.m. A call to Mikronitebs New  Jersey offices
produced similar results. Six cars sat in the parking lot  early this
afternoon
at the local plant, which employed 220 just three  years ago.

Inside the lobby, a reception desk sat empty. A call  from the lobby phone
got an answer from Dennis Burgess, who declined to  comment and said no one at
the plant could provide information.

In  the parking lot, 14-year employee Ronald Dorn was leaving the plant for
what he believed was the last time

He said workers were told  during the past week that layoffs were likely, but
he didnbt expect the  plant to close.

Mikronite received approval in 2006 to receive tax  rebates from the state
and the county amid discussion about moving its New  Jersey operations here.
But
the company ended its contract with the state  in 2008 due to nonperformance,
Michael said.

bCrane has gone  through a series of small layoffs recently,b he said.

Crane Cams  and Crane Technologies Group were founded by Harvey J. Crane Jr.
in 1953  as Crane Engineering Inc. in Hallandale. The company is well known in
 high-performance and racing circles for its line of camshafts and engine
valve train components.

In 1979, Crane Cams became an  employee-owned company. Some operations moved
to Daytona Beach in 1981,  with the remainder of the operation and employees
relocating here in 1985.

Mikronite, an industrial technology firm, bought Crane in 2006.

In March 2007, Mikronite sold its property on Fentress to STAG  Capital
Partners of Boston, then signed a 10-year  lease.

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From dlodom at charter.net  Thu Mar 26 12:51:32 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 12:51:32 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
References: <000001c9ae43$b5920fa0$20b62ee0$@net>
Message-ID: <04ab01c9ae4c$43792490$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

Two or three years ago I wanted to buy some Crane roller rockers. I tried 
calling the company for days and could never get anyone to answer the phone. 
I gave up and went with Jesel. If other people had the same problem I had, I 
can see why they are in trouble.

Doug Odom in big ditch



>I could be wrong but I thought that Crane was reorganized into one of the
> first employee-owned-companies about 10 or 15 years ago. . . a very
> progressive idea. I wonder what happened? Is Comp Cams going to gobble up
> the industry!

From ddahlgren at snet.net  Thu Mar 26 12:59:24 2009
From: ddahlgren at snet.net (Dave Dahlgren)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 15:59:24 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP
In-Reply-To: <04ab01c9ae4c$43792490$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
References: <000001c9ae43$b5920fa0$20b62ee0$@net>
	<04ab01c9ae4c$43792490$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>
Message-ID: <F544DAE908B34545B83A5799C4AF88C9@DaveSatellite>

I think they got sucked in dealing with the OEM market doing cams and 
rockers for at least GM in the last of the C4 corvettes they made the roller 
rockers and some of the GM HP roller cams and who know possibly previous to 
that. GM like every other car company beats a supplier into bankruptcy Crane 
is not immune to that as well. They ere in business for decades with racer 
work. I suspect it is the illusion that big volume equals big profit but it 
really just means you churn big amounts of cash in and out and not very much 
stays so of a business that relies on the 'float to stay in business..
Dave
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Odom" <dlodom at charter.net>
To: "saltfever" <saltfever at comcast.net>; "land-speed" 
<land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 26, 2009 3:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Crane Cams-RIP


> Two or three years ago I wanted to buy some Crane roller rockers. I tried 
> calling the company for days and could never get anyone to answer the 
> phone. I gave up and went with Jesel. If other people had the same problem 
> I had, I can see why they are in trouble.
>
> Doug Odom in big ditch
>
>
>
>>I could be wrong but I thought that Crane was reorganized into one of the
>> first employee-owned-companies about 10 or 15 years ago. . . a very
>> progressive idea. I wonder what happened? Is Comp Cams going to gobble up
>> the industry!
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From saltfever at comcast.net  Thu Mar 26 23:16:03 2009
From: saltfever at comcast.net (saltfever)
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2009 23:16:03 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
Message-ID: <004201c9aea3$823c9340$86b5b9c0$@net>

I love this trick.  Oh so simple . . . why didn't I ever think of it! 

http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=15399631001

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Thu Mar 26 23:45:39 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:45:39 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
Message-ID: <FDA397FA492943E59E605F10DD2D453A@john>

Golf balls used to have a small acid filled ball in the middle wrapped with 
elastic string . It'd get your attention if you drilled into one of them .


>I love this trick.  Oh so simple . . . why didn't I ever think of it!
>
> http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=15399631001
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From fosterap at flash.net  Fri Mar 27 07:03:22 2009
From: fosterap at flash.net (JERRY FOSTER)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 07:03:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
In-Reply-To: <004201c9aea3$823c9340$86b5b9c0$@net>
Message-ID: <189232.46407.qm@web80603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

How about cutting of the handles from old paint brushes.....drill a hole and
insert file tip. Works for me.  Jerry in Dallas


--- On Fri, 3/27/09, saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net> wrote:

From: saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:16 AM

I love this trick.  Oh so simple . . . why didn't I ever think of it!

http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=15399631001
Land-speed mailing list

You are subscribed as fosterap at flash.net

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From wester6935 at comcast.net  Fri Mar 27 10:13:37 2009
From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:13:37 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] John MacKichan news
Message-ID: <A0A6785D-D38F-4FF3-A201-E6177723F9E2@comcast.net>

I received a note from Barb MacKichan bringing me up to date on what  
they are doing in
Indiana at the AFCO company Bill Smith bought for Speedway Motors.

This was buried in the happy note:

"John received a call this past Monday from Bill Smith informing him  
that
John has been voted into the Nebraska Racing Hall of Fame for this
September's annual gathering at the Museum.  That is quite a treat for
John.  His experience at the beloved Salt Flats had much to do with that
recognition.  The kids are excited about it as well".

That's great recognition for John.  The MacKichan-Schulz streamliner  
has been a beautiful,
innovative addition to the salt flats legacy.  John's work in updating  
the Speedway owned,
Museum of American Speed has been rather quiet but a huge factor in  
making it such
an intersting place to visit.

Wes

From dmirror3 at yahoo.com  Fri Mar 27 11:08:53 2009
From: dmirror3 at yahoo.com (Dale Krumheuer)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 11:08:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
In-Reply-To: <189232.46407.qm@web80603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <802350.7429.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

another "why didn't I think of that !!" ideas. Nice job Jerry
I don't golf ... so does that mean I have no balls ? Yet, I do prefer sports
that require 2

Dale Krumheuer
Cleveland OH
'Work out?? I donbt need to work out, I get
 enough exercise just pushing my luck.

--- On Fri, 3/27/09, JERRY FOSTER <fosterap at flash.net> wrote:
From: JERRY FOSTER <fosterap at flash.net>
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] File handle
To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>, "saltfever"
<saltfever at comcast.net>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:03 AM

How about cutting of the handles from old paint brushes.....drill a hole and
insert file tip. Works for me.  Jerry in Dallas


--- On Fri, 3/27/09, saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net> wrote:

From: saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net>
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:16 AM

I love this trick.  Oh so simple . . . why didn't I ever think of it!

http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=15399631001
Land-speed mailing list

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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Fri Mar 27 11:51:30 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 12:51:30 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
References: <802350.7429.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <28617E60C4DA46498D02FE6E73049230@Glens>

Old broom sticks work as well and you can make the handle as long as you 
want.. There lots of home ideas out there. Lets keep this going for other 
ideas.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dale Krumheuer" <dmirror3 at yahoo.com>
To: <fosterap at flash.net>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 12:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] File handle


> another "why didn't I think of that !!" ideas. Nice job Jerry
> I don't golf ... so does that mean I have no balls ? Yet, I do prefer 
> sports
> that require 2
>
> Dale Krumheuer
> Cleveland OH
> 'Work out?? I donbt need to work out, I get
> enough exercise just pushing my luck.
>
> --- On Fri, 3/27/09, JERRY FOSTER <fosterap at flash.net> wrote:
> From: JERRY FOSTER <fosterap at flash.net>
> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] File handle
> To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>, "saltfever"
> <saltfever at comcast.net>
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 10:03 AM
>
> How about cutting of the handles from old paint brushes.....drill a hole 
> and
> insert file tip. Works for me.  Jerry in Dallas
>
>
> --- On Fri, 3/27/09, saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> From: saltfever <saltfever at comcast.net>
> Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
> To: "land-speed" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
> Date: Friday, March 27, 2009, 1:16 AM
>
> I love this trick.  Oh so simple . . . why didn't I ever think of it!
>
> http://www.eaa.org/video/homebuilders.html?videoId=15399631001
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Fri Mar 27 15:12:32 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 16:12:32 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] File handle
References: <802350.7429.qm@web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>
	<28617E60C4DA46498D02FE6E73049230@Glens>
	<1DA9A593FC0041AD92E0E20B706CB4C6@keithhrijwmm4p>
Message-ID: <5DDA6739852C4386AEDC24F1AB6608EE@Glens>

Sure hope Tonya doesn't look over your shoulder.She might have an UGLY stick 
and whoop your cracker ass.Have a great event next week sorry I couldn't 
make it.
Glen
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Keith Turk" <kturk at ala.net>
To: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>; <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Friday, March 27, 2009 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] File handle


> Glen I agree on two levels... keeping it up... and broom sticks...
>
> Just don't cut down the wife's ... she might need to fly to the store....
>
> WHEWWWWW>...  IF TONYA EVER READS THAT....... Nevermind...
>
> Seriously... I've got a few handles made out of old thick Broomsticks...
>
> K

From adin at frontier.net  Fri Mar 27 20:58:53 2009
From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango)
Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:58:53 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] itchy
Message-ID: <003001c9af59$83f5e450$6401a8c0@ZTxp>

Just in case you are getting itchy . . .

http://www.archive.org/details/RoadRunn1952

From jgmagoo at comcast.net  Sat Mar 28 11:52:53 2009
From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 18:52:53 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Land-speed] File Handles
Message-ID: <848392414.904451238266373817.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>

Man!.. That tip using the corn cobs for file handles IS cheap! 



Reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillys! 



That HAS to win an award of some kind! 



Thanks for the introduction to the www.eaa.org site however. Lots of good tips on there! 



JGMagoo 

From ifixmgs at cox.net  Sat Mar 28 14:48:08 2009
From: ifixmgs at cox.net (ifixmgs at cox.net)
Date: Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:48:08 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] File Handles
In-Reply-To: <848392414.904451238266373817.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net>
Message-ID: <20090328174808.518FF.162818.imail@eastrmwml30>

This thread gave me the idea to replace  the ancient wooden  knob on a little  file with a 1" superball  which has a really nice feel.  Five minute epoxy to bonded it tight  to the file.   The  hand carved wooden knob wouldn't stay tight but it was a work of art most likely from a broken screwdriver out of my great grandfathers machine shop and smithy,    and I couldn't throw something like that away.  

Last night I had to buy a new air cutoff tool, and when the Allen key fell out of the package  onto  the floor, and  bounced under the toolbox,  it gave me the idea to epoxy  the wooden knob onto the long end of the allen key  -   much easier for these semi-arthritic hands to manipulate and might on a bit of tradition thru   generations to come..     

Mark C 




---- jgmagoo at comcast.net wrote: 
> Man!.. That tip using the corn cobs for file handles IS cheap! 
> 
> 
> 
> Reminds me of the Beverly Hillbillys! 
> 
> 
> 
> That HAS to win an award of some kind! 
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks for the introduction to the www.eaa.org site however. Lots of good tips on there! 
> 
> 
> 
> JGMagoo 
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From speedtimer at beyondbb.com  Mon Mar 30 12:26:08 2009
From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (Glen Barrett)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:26:08 -0600
Subject: [Land-speed] Lloyd Ruby
Message-ID: <982D6B06DC18408A9F1752A4552B1740@Glens>

Long time Indy car racer Lloyd Ruby passed away yesterday. He was a great
racer but never won the 500.
RIP Lloyd.

From dlodom at charter.net  Mon Mar 30 13:10:00 2009
From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom)
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:10:00 -0700
Subject: [Land-speed] Lloyd Ruby
References: <982D6B06DC18408A9F1752A4552B1740@Glens>
Message-ID: <00cd01c9b173$8186a490$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA>

Long time ago we were doing tire testing at Ontario Motor Speedway and Lloyd 
was there. Had lunch at a large table and he didn't say 3 words all lunch. 
Very quiet guy. Hard driving guy but I never heard any other driver say 
anything harsh or bad about him. A racers racer.    RIP Lloyd

Big ditch Doug


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Glen Barrett" <speedtimer at beyondbb.com>
To: "landspeed at autox.team.net" <land-speed at autox.team.net>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 12:26 PM
Subject: [Land-speed] Lloyd Ruby


> Long time Indy car racer Lloyd Ruby passed away yesterday. He was a great
> racer but never won the 500.
> RIP Lloyd.

From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Mon Mar 30 21:28:38 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 00:28:38 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] Lloyd Ruby
Message-ID: <ADE9E4CCDAFE4A9A962EC3D65E5333F3@john>

We remember the time he was set to win the Indy 500 but damaged the fuel 
tank when he left early on his last fuel stop .



> Long time Indy car racer Lloyd Ruby passed away yesterday. He was a great
> racer but never won the 500.
> RIP Lloyd.

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Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: Drag racers:  What's in YOUR basement?
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From joyseydevil at comcast.net  Tue Mar 31 17:31:12 2009
From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk)
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 20:31:12 -0400
Subject: [Land-speed] No Rust
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My friend is going to baking soda blast the frame of my streamliner so I can
paint it . He mentioned that clean steel won't rust while traces of the media
are on it . Had to look that one up . Steel rusts from moisture and carbonic
acid which forms when water mixes with atmospheric co2  . The bare steel won't
rust because baking soda neutralizes the acid . Wonder if spraying water and
baking soda on after the salt is rinsed off would help .