[Land-speed] Perpetual motion machine

[neil at dbelltech.com]

Mayf;

Yep, P. T. Barnum was right!

Regards, Neil   Tucson, AZ

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[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf
Sent: Monday, June 01, 2009 5:40 PM
To: Jon Wennerberg
Cc: Land speed list
Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Perpetual motion machine

Well, I guess the laws of the Universe have been repealed.  But there is 
something interesting about the claims made on the web site...

"A very small motor keeps the generator spinning continually, *which may 
produce far more energy* than it consumes."


Several times, the phrase ' MAY produce more energy than it consumes."   

I gather from that than no detailed design analyses or data analyses 
have actually been conducted.   I suspect that they are forgetting the 
energy that was used to charge the twin 6 volt batteries powering the 
small motor.  I did not see that being recharged in the process.  That 
is a net loss.  Also no measurements of how much heat is being produced 
in the big coils.  

I think thi sis kinda like cold fusion, maybe in fact something going on 
but very difficult to make it pay off.  Just remember 
entropy....everything runs down hill.

Why do they invoke a name like Null Gravity?  Tiz a sales gimick.  
Gravity not involved.

Is Darpa jumping on baord?

Also call them up and tell them that the sound on all their videos is 
junk. With speakers up enough on my desk to shatter diamond cannot but 
barely even hear what they say...

I think it is bs.

mayf

Jon Wennerberg wrote:

> The guys behind this company (www.nullgrav.com) are from up here, and  
> the other day one of them cornered me and gave me his card.  No, he  
> said, after talking about the concept -- it isn't "perpetual motion"  
> or snake oil.  Take a look at the site and this video and you be the  
> judge.
>
> Mayf, Bryan, everyone -- stop laughing.  You'll shoot your drink out  
> your nose. . .
>
>       Jon Wennerberg
> Tall guy with moustache
> and a pair of 2 Club hats
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