From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Jul 2 22:45:21 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:45:21 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Autox Down? Message-ID: <4A4D8CE1.6010509@mayfco.com> I am getting nothing from the autox server.... none of my list traffic. Glen, you getting anything? mayf From boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com Thu Jul 2 23:16:16 2009 From: boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com (Doug .............) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:16:16 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Autox Down? In-Reply-To: <4A4D8CE1.6010509@mayfco.com> References: <4A4D8CE1.6010509@mayfco.com> Message-ID: I gotcha here in the east.... -so it must be woikin' c heers, 'Dirt Track Doug ' > Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:45:21 -0700 > From: drmayf at mayfco.com > To: land-speed at autox.team.net; tigers at autox.team.net; speedtimer at beyondbb.com > Subject: [Land-speed] Autox Down? > > I am getting nothing from the autox server.... none of my list traffic. > > Glen, you getting anything? > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live SkyDrive: Get 25 GB of free online storage. http://windowslive.com/online/skydrive?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_SD_25GB_062009 From zoombot at cox.net Fri Jul 3 13:33:23 2009 From: zoombot at cox.net (Pile,Chris) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:33:23 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] The Holiday Message-ID: List - Have a great 4th (I'm already off to a good start)! - Chris Pile aka aircap From saltfever at comcast.net Fri Jul 3 14:06:07 2009 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 13:06:07 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] List Donations Message-ID: <000101c9fc19$b4757bb0$1d607310$@net> A while back Mark posted a note which included a link to PayPal to make it easy for donations. I also checked his site for the same info but no joy. Anybody have the link? Thanks From saltfevr at q.com Fri Jul 3 17:16:46 2009 From: saltfevr at q.com (Tom Shannon) Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 17:16:46 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] 4th of July Thanks Message-ID: List; To all of you that served or are serving in America's Military, thank you for securing my freedom! Heres a link to Former Hollywood Stars from WWII & beyond, who later became household names. These were Real Heroes, not today's wanna be's whiners.. Take time to fly "Old Glory" and hope to cya all at Salt Talks! http://www.palletmastersworkshop.com/flipside.html This originally came from Wink Martindales site. Just yest. I was reading on Richard Parks LSR newsletter about "Untouchable" Robert Stack running at Muroc. Well his name is listed on this Veteran Salute too. Thanks all Tom Shannon Magna, Utah From jgmagoo at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 14:46:10 2009 From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:46:10 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Transmission Coolers>From>JG Magoo Message-ID: <173804806.460431246826770491.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> I think installing an oil-to-air cooler AHEAD of the standard oil-to-water cooler in the bottom of the radiator is a good idea in cold climates. This way, if the oil-to-air cooler cools the fluid too much, the oil-to-water cooler will act as a transmission fluid warmer controlled by the engine's thermostat. Operating an automatic too cold can have similar effects to operating an engine too cold. JG From jgmagoo at comcast.net Sun Jul 5 14:56:31 2009 From: jgmagoo at comcast.net (jgmagoo at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:56:31 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] Cooling Radiators & Coolers Message-ID: <839548420.462281246827391016.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> An electric windsiheld washer pump controlled by a button on the dash, a couple-gallon water tank,B and a landscaping sprayer nozzle directed at the radiator/coolerB make a fairlyB simple and effective emergency cooling device. JG From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 5 17:26:00 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 16:26:00 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... Message-ID: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> You know, I get a lot of those things in my email inbox. I get a lot because I had a chat with my ISP guy and told him that I would filter my own junk , thank you very much. But, there seems to be zillions of them and that got me to wondering... I wonder what the success rate is for people falling for the scams? Anybody ever heard or have a guestimate? They must work on some level. Some are so outlandish, that it would sem to me that the least experienced novice would know that they are fake. mayf From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org Sun Jul 5 18:41:54 2009 From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:41:54 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:26 PM, drmayf wrote: You know, I get a lot of those things in my email inbox. I get a lot because I had a chat with my ISP guy and told him that I would filter my own junk , thank you very much. But, there seems to be zillions of them and that got me to wondering... I wonder what the success rate is for people falling for the scams? Anybody ever heard or have a guestimate? They must work on some level. Some are so outlandish, that it would sem to me that the least experienced novice would know that they are fake. mayf I wonder how many folks open the spam/mails saying "photo album" or "software enclosed" or stuff like that. I've got this 'puter trained to send it all to the junk folder -- but I still scan through it to see if something real got into the junk. I don't open anything I'm not 100% satisfied is okay, though. I haven't got any "Zillion dollars in a country you've never heard of" emails in quite a while, but still get the usual pharmaceutical ads (one there right now, I see, says "Boost your bomber", another says "Become virile like a rabbit". One says "sending you the archive". I'm entertained by 'em, that's for sure. Still don't open them). Jon Wennerberg Tall guy with moustache and a pair of 2 Club hats From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Jul 5 18:53:58 2009 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 17:53:58 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Transmission Coolers>From>JG Magoo In-Reply-To: <173804806.460431246826770491.JavaMail.root@sz0086a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <20090705205358.TL9IA.70559.imail@fed1rmwml38> What we did on our GMC motorhomes---reversed the lines in the summer!!!!!!!!! ---- jgmagoo at comcast.net wrote: > I think installing an oil-to-air cooler AHEAD of the standard oil-to-water cooler in the bottom of the radiator is a good idea in cold climates. This way, if the oil-to-air cooler cools the fluid too much, the oil-to-water cooler will act as a transmission fluid warmer controlled by the engine's thermostat. Operating an automatic too cold can have similar effects to operating an engine too cold. > > > > JG > _______________________________________________ > Support From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 5 20:08:03 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2009 19:08:03 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> Message-ID: <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> Jon, if you feel bad about not getting the emails on money laundering, lotteries you've won, free money just all you gotta do is... Well, I can forward all of mine to you! How's that for a buddy! I never ever open any attachment from anyone I do not know...never ever... Still it is curious that the people who send this crap out must know that it is not working. Why do they still do it? I get the same letters from several senders.. phunny for sure.. mayf Jon Wennerberg wrote: > > On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:26 PM, drmayf wrote: > > You know, I get a lot of those things in my email inbox. I get a lot > because I had a chat with my ISP guy and told him that I would filter > my own junk , thank you very much. But, there seems to be zillions of > them and that got me to wondering... I wonder what the success rate > is for people falling for the scams? Anybody ever heard or have a > guestimate? They must work on some level. Some are so outlandish, > that it would sem to me that the least experienced novice would know > that they are fake. > > mayf > > > > I wonder how many folks open the spam/mails saying "photo album" or > "software enclosed" or stuff like that. I've got this 'puter trained > to send it all to the junk folder -- but I still scan through it to > see if something real got into the junk. I don't open anything I'm > not 100% satisfied is okay, though. I haven't got any "Zillion > dollars in a country you've never heard of" emails in quite a while, > but still get the usual pharmaceutical ads (one there right now, I > see, says "Boost your bomber", another says "Become virile like a > rabbit". One says "sending you the archive". I'm entertained by > 'em, that's for sure. Still don't open them). > > > Jon Wennerberg > Tall guy with moustache > and a pair of 2 Club hats From sparky.2211 at cox.net Sun Jul 5 22:48:30 2009 From: sparky.2211 at cox.net (sparky.2211 at cox.net) Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:48:30 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Transmission Coolers>From>JG Magoo In-Reply-To: <20090705225855.E9GNK.140790.imail@eastrmwml31> Message-ID: <20090706004830.3AORX.191574.imail@fed1rmwml33> I know I am a DACB---that definately went over my head LOL ---- ifixmgs at cox.net wrote: > > ---- sparky.2211 at cox.net wrote: > > What we did on our GMC motorhomes---reversed the lines in the summer!!!!!!!!! > > Sparky - > And I bet if you reverse the battery cables you can get talk radio to listen..... > Mark C > Chesapeake VA > > > > ---- jgmagoo at comcast.net wrote: > > > I think installing an oil-to-air cooler AHEAD of the standard oil-to-water cooler in the bottom of the radiator is a good idea in cold climates. This way, if the oil-to-air cooler cools the fluid too much, the oil-to-water cooler will act as a transmission fluid warmer controlled by the engine's thermostat. Operating an automatic too cold can have similar effects to operating an engine too cold. From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Mon Jul 6 10:45:33 2009 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:45:33 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> Mayf, Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up and their brains don't work very well. Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it out. ('94-'96). Bryan drmayf wrote: > Jon, if you feel bad about not getting the emails on money laundering, > lotteries you've won, free money just all you gotta do is... Well, I > can forward all of mine to you! How's that for a buddy! > > I never ever open any attachment from anyone I do not know...never > ever... > Still it is curious that the people who send this crap out must know > that it is not working. Why do they still do it? I get the same > letters from several senders.. > > phunny for sure.. > > mayf > Jon Wennerberg wrote: From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 6 10:54:08 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 10:54:08 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> Message-ID: <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage spa is closed. Lets help Mayf out. GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" To: Cc: "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > Mayf, > Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up and > their brains don't work > very well. > Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. > > I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it out. > ('94-'96). > > Bryan > > > > > > drmayf wrote: >> Jon, if you feel bad about not getting the emails on money laundering, >> lotteries you've won, free money just all you gotta do is... Well, I can >> forward all of mine to you! How's that for a buddy! >> >> I never ever open any attachment from anyone I do not know...never >> ever... >> Still it is curious that the people who send this crap out must know that >> it is not working. Why do they still do it? I get the same letters from >> several senders.. >> >> phunny for sure.. >> >> mayf >> Jon Wennerberg wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 6 11:47:03 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 10:47:03 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will find a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the "girls" was wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some more. I told her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail > Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can > always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage spa > is closed. Lets help Mayf out. > > GB > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" > > To: > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we > have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >> Mayf, >> Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up >> and their brains don't work >> very well. >> Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. >> >> I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it >> out. ('94-'96). >> >> Bryan >> >> >> >> >> >> drmayf wrote: >> >>> Jon, if you feel bad about not getting the emails on money >>> laundering, lotteries you've won, free money just all you gotta do >>> is... Well, I can forward all of mine to you! How's that for a buddy! >>> >>> I never ever open any attachment from anyone I do not know...never >>> ever... >>> Still it is curious that the people who send this crap out must know >>> that it is not working. Why do they still do it? I get the same >>> letters from several senders.. >>> >>> phunny for sure.. >>> >>> mayf >>> Jon Wennerberg wrote: >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From saltrat at pahrump.com Mon Jul 6 15:51:52 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:51:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <20090706215205.1F69218765E@autox.team.net> Alright....play nice now. Skip At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: >Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will >find a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the >"girls" was wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some >more. I told her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? > >mayf > > >speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >>Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail >>Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can >>always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage >>spa is closed. Lets help Mayf out. >> >>GB >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" >>To: >>Cc: "LSR" >>Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM >>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >>have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>>Mayf, >>>Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up >>>and their brains don't work >>>very well. >>>Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. >>> >>>I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it >>>out. ('94-'96). >>> >>>Bryan From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 6 15:59:13 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:59:13 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> We are playing nice, lol. Poking fun at and with each other. At least I think it is fun, tiz for me...... I think we are pretty much bored.... mayf Skip Higginbotham wrote: > Alright....play nice now. > > Skip > > > > > > At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: > >> Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will >> find a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the >> "girls" was wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some >> more. I told her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? >> >> mayf >> >> >> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>> Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail >>> Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can >>> always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage >>> spa is closed. Lets help Mayf out. >>> >>> GB >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" >>> >>> To: >>> Cc: "LSR" >>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >>> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >>> >>> >>>> Mayf, >>>> Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up >>>> and their brains don't work >>>> very well. >>>> Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. >>>> >>>> I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it >>>> out. ('94-'96). >>>> >>>> Bryan From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 6 17:01:41 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 17:01:41 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> Mayf, at least they don't have postage due(yet) Hi Skip Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: "Skip Higginbotham" Cc: ; "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > We are playing nice, lol. Poking fun at and with each other. At least I > think it is fun, tiz for me...... I think we are pretty much bored.... > > mayf > > Skip Higginbotham wrote: > >> Alright....play nice now. >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> >> At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: >> >>> Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will find a >>> special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the "girls" was >>> wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some more. I told her >>> to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? >>> >>> mayf >>> >>> >>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>> >>>> Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail >>>> Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can >>>> always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage spa >>>> is closed. Lets help Mayf out. >>>> >>>> GB >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" >>>> >>>> To: >>>> Cc: "LSR" >>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >>>> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >>>> >>>> >>>>> Mayf, >>>>> Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess up and >>>>> their brains don't work >>>>> very well. >>>>> Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. >>>>> >>>>> I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering it >>>>> out. ('94-'96). >>>>> >>>>> Bryan From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 6 17:51:51 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:51:51 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A528E17.8000700@mayfco.com> That's one good thing that has happened in the past...post office will no longe rdeliver mail with postage due. It just goes back to the sender to fix... or that's what I been lead to believe... maybe I'll make a test run.. mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > Mayf, at least they don't have postage due(yet) Hi Skip > Glen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" > To: "Skip Higginbotham" > Cc: ; "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:59 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we > have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >> We are playing nice, lol. Poking fun at and with each other. At >> least I think it is fun, tiz for me...... I think we are pretty >> much bored.... >> >> mayf >> >> Skip Higginbotham wrote: >> >>> Alright....play nice now. >>> >>> Skip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: >>> >>>> Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will >>>> find a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the >>>> "girls" was wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some >>>> more. I told her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? >>>> >>>> mayf >>>> >>>> >>>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Gosh, I just forward them to drMayf. Maybe I can send the snail mail >>>>> Ads to him as well so he can make gaskets and soak up oil. You can >>>>> always tell when he is out of projects and the coffee shop/massage >>>>> spa is closed. Lets help Mayf out. >>>>> >>>>> GB >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bryan Savage" >>>>> >>>>> To: >>>>> Cc: "LSR" >>>>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:45 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us >>>>> we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Mayf, >>>>>> Americans take a lot of prescription drugs. They sometimes mess >>>>>> up and their brains don't work >>>>>> very well. >>>>>> Also when people are scared, it affects their judgment. >>>>>> >>>>>> I used to get over 50 spam a day before ISP's started filtering >>>>>> it out. ('94-'96). >>>>>> >>>>>> Bryan From saltrat at pahrump.com Mon Jul 6 19:40:34 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:40:34 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> Message-ID: <20090707014041.6CEFB187647@autox.team.net> Hi Glen. I know that you are playing nice, Mayf.....just funnin'. Skip At 04:01 PM 7/6/2009, speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >Mayf, at least they don't have postage due(yet) Hi Skip >Glen >----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >To: "Skip Higginbotham" >Cc: ; "LSR" >Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:59 PM >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >>We are playing nice, lol. Poking fun at and with each other. At >>least I think it is fun, tiz for me...... I think we are pretty >>much bored.... >> >>mayf >> >>Skip Higginbotham wrote: >> >>>Alright....play nice now. >>> >>>Skip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: >>> >>>>Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will >>>>find a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the >>>>"girls" was wondering when you would be back in town to "play" >>>>some more. I told her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? >>>> >>>>mayf >>>> >>>> >>>>speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 6 19:43:25 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:43:25 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> Message-ID: <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> Skip Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" To: ; Cc: "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > Hi Glen. I know that you are playing nice, Mayf.....just funnin'. > > Skip > > > At 04:01 PM 7/6/2009, speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>Mayf, at least they don't have postage due(yet) Hi Skip >>Glen >>----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >>To: "Skip Higginbotham" >>Cc: ; "LSR" >>Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 3:59 PM >>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have >>won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>>We are playing nice, lol. Poking fun at and with each other. At least I >>>think it is fun, tiz for me...... I think we are pretty much bored.... >>> >>>mayf >>> >>>Skip Higginbotham wrote: >>> >>>>Alright....play nice now. >>>> >>>>Skip >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>At 10:47 AM 7/6/2009, drmayf wrote: >>>> >>>>>Gosh, Glen, you are a swell guy! It will be difficult, but I will find >>>>>a special way to repay you, lol... By the way, one of the "girls" was >>>>>wondering when you would be back in town to "play" some more. I told >>>>>her to just call your wife and ask her... Was that Ok? >>>>> >>>>>mayf >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: From wester6935 at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 19:51:15 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:51:15 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> Message-ID: <8D24716C-6350-4807-86C0-033CBB310F66@comcast.net> Yeah ... Right! Wes On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:43 PM, wrote: > Skip > Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the > microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. > Glen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" > > To: ; > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we > have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >> Hi Glen. I know that you are playing nice, Mayf.....just funnin'. >> >> Skip From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 6 19:53:31 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 19:53:31 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <8D24716C-6350-4807-86C0-033CBB310F66@comcast.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> <8D24716C-6350-4807-86C0-033CBB310F66@comcast.net> Message-ID: <0567E8484CFC4F7D83C3E19D9896367B@GlenPC> Wes, what are you trying to say GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" To: Cc: ; "Skip Higginbotham" ; "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:51 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > Yeah ... Right! > > Wes > > On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:43 PM, wrote: > >> Skip >> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the microphone >> in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >> Glen >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" >> > > >> To: ; >> Cc: "LSR" >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have >> won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>> Hi Glen. I know that you are playing nice, Mayf.....just funnin'. >>> >>> Skip From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 6 22:07:02 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:07:02 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > Skip > Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the microphone > in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. > Glen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" > > To: ; > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:40 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we > have won money or Help is needing on transferring... From wester6935 at comcast.net Mon Jul 6 22:29:45 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2009 22:29:45 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. Wes On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: > Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit > button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime > you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... > > mayf > speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >> Skip >> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >> Glen >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" > > >> To: ; >> Cc: "LSR" >> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 7:40 PM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as wester6935 at comcast.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From saltrat at pahrump.com Tue Jul 7 09:11:34 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 08:11:34 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <20090707151140.C396C1878E3@autox.team.net> Wes, Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me (I shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back out to the shop....... Skip At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. > >Wes > >On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: > >>Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit >>button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime >>you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >> >>mayf >>speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>>Skip >>>Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>Glen From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 10:23:53 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:23:53 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> Skip, I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time about which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither one is fully awake as yet today. Wes On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: > > Wes, > > Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me (I > shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back out to > the shop....... > > Skip > > > > > At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >> Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. >> >> Wes >> >> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: >> >>> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit >>> button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime >>> you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >>> >>> mayf >>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>> >>>> Skip >>>> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>> Glen From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Tue Jul 7 10:49:04 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:49:04 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> Message-ID: <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> I was busy at the doctors, thinking I am the oldest and have senior rights to harass him anytime I want. GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" To: "Skip Higginbotham" Cc: "LSR" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > Skip, > > I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time about > which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither one is fully > awake as yet today. > > Wes > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: > >> >> Wes, >> >> Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me (I >> shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back out to the >> shop....... >> >> Skip >> >> >> >> >> At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >>> Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. >>> >>> Wes >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: >>> >>>> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit >>>> button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime >>>> you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >>>> >>>> mayf >>>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Skip >>>>> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>>> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>>> Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue Jul 7 11:52:52 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:52:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> Well, of course, you and Wes have seniority for harassment. I mean you are really really old guys and in need of some form of entertainment. I mean how many of us can say we watched dirt being made? mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > I was busy at the doctors, thinking I am the oldest and have senior > rights to harass him anytime I want. > GB > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" > > To: "Skip Higginbotham" > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we > have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >> Skip, >> >> I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time >> about which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither one >> is fully awake as yet today. >> >> Wes >> >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: >> >>> >>> Wes, >>> >>> Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me (I >>> shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back out >>> to the shop....... >>> >>> Skip >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >>> >>>> Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. >>>> >>>> Wes >>>> >>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: >>>> >>>>> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit >>>>> button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime >>>>> you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >>>>> >>>>> mayf >>>>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Skip >>>>>> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>>>> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>>>> Glen >>>>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 12:55:15 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 12:55:15 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <066126A8-4535-4DEC-8596-6C9CB51419ED@comcast.net> And dinosaur eggs hatching. Wes On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 AM, drmayf wrote: > Well, of course, you and Wes have seniority for harassment. I mean > you are really really old guys and in need of some form of > entertainment. I mean how many of us can say we watched dirt being > made? > > mayf > speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >> I was busy at the doctors, thinking I am the oldest and have senior >> rights to harass him anytime I want. >> GB >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" > > >> To: "Skip Higginbotham" >> Cc: "LSR" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>> Skip, >>> >>> I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time >>> about which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither >>> one is fully awake as yet today. >>> >>> Wes >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Wes, >>>> >>>> Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me >>>> (I shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back >>>> out to the shop....... >>>> >>>> Skip >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. >>>>> >>>>> Wes >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the >>>>>> transmit >>>>>> button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. >>>>>> Everytime >>>>>> you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >>>>>> >>>>>> mayf >>>>>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Skip >>>>>>> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>>>>> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>>>>> Glen >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Land-speed mailing list >>> >>> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Tue Jul 7 13:00:41 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:00:41 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <6CE4ADC9DA74447785A46EA669CC0F37@GlenPC> Heck, we helped make dirt and salt for you young punks to race on. We get discounts on food etc. I am a young 74 and Wes has to use a calculator to figure his as he runs out of fingers. NEXT!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" ; "LSR" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > Well, of course, you and Wes have seniority for harassment. I mean you are > really really old guys and in need of some form of entertainment. I mean > how many of us can say we watched dirt being made? > > mayf > speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >> I was busy at the doctors, thinking I am the oldest and have senior >> rights to harass him anytime I want. >> GB >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" >> >> To: "Skip Higginbotham" >> Cc: "LSR" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have >> won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>> Skip, >>> >>> I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time about >>> which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither one is fully >>> awake as yet today. >>> >>> Wes >>> >>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Wes, >>>> >>>> Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me (I >>>> shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back out to >>>> the shop....... >>>> >>>> Skip >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> At 09:29 PM 7/6/2009, Wester Potter wrote: >>>> >>>>> Old age and treachery will beat youth and exuberance every time. >>>>> >>>>> Wes >>>>> >>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 10:07 PM, drmayf wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Shoot, I have several old cb radios..I could just tape the transmit >>>>>> button down and then we could have peace and quiet, lol.. Everytime >>>>>> you said move to another channel, yup, you guessed it... >>>>>> >>>>>> mayf >>>>>> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Skip >>>>>>> Just think how much I can pick on him at speedweek with the >>>>>>> microphone in the timing trailer. Nah! I won't do that. >>>>>>> Glen >>>>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Land-speed mailing list >>> >>> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue Jul 7 13:01:36 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 12:01:36 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <066126A8-4535-4DEC-8596-6C9CB51419ED@comcast.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> <066126A8-4535-4DEC-8596-6C9CB51419ED@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A539B90.2020109@mayfco.com> Well, now, I am reasonably old, but, that was a little before my time. Did you see Glen there? mayf Wester Potter wrote: > And dinosaur eggs hatching. > > Wes > > On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:52 AM, drmayf wrote: > >> Well, of course, you and Wes have seniority for harassment. I mean >> you are really really old guys and in need of some form of >> entertainment. I mean how many of us can say we watched dirt being >> made? >> >> mayf >> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>> I was busy at the doctors, thinking I am the oldest and have senior >>> rights to harass him anytime I want. >>> GB >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wester Potter" >>> >>> To: "Skip Higginbotham" >>> Cc: "LSR" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:23 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >>> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >>> >>> >>>> Skip, >>>> >>>> I was hoping to elicit some response from mayf and/or Father Time >>>> about which one qualified for the "Youth" part. Perhaps neither >>>> one is fully awake as yet today. >>>> >>>> Wes >>>> >>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 9:11 AM, Skip Higginbotham wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wes, >>>>> >>>>> Looks like old age and treachery vs. old age and treachery to me >>>>> (I shouldn't have said anything!!!) I'll never learn (-:(-: Back >>>>> out to the shop....... >>>>> >>>>> Skip From saltrat at pahrump.com Tue Jul 7 14:32:11 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:32:11 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <3EC2F13C1C2844E08ECB9D90A3EC1793@GlenPC> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com> <5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org> <4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net> <8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC> <4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com> <4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC> <5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net> <48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC> <4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> <6CE4ADC9DA74447785A46EA669CC0F37@GlenPC> <4A53A177.8020007@mayfco.com> <3EC2F13C1C2844E08ECB9D90A3EC1793@GlenPC> Message-ID: <20090707203221.211781878B6@autox.team.net> I am now officially staying out of this. Have fun oldtimers. Skip (Just a kid....8 months younger than at least one of you) At 01:02 PM 7/7/2009, speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >Mayf >Skip says it takes you 2 hours to watch 60 minutes and you are calling us old. > > >Glen > > > >----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >To: >Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" >; "LSR" >Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:26 PM >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >have won money or Help is needing on transferring... > > >>Oh, have we started a food fight between you older geezers >>now? As to determining age, heck, Glen, I though they had to use >>carbon dating with you at the social security office..... Now, I >>understand Wess uses the finger and toe method... the hands are >>the tens digits and the toes are the hundreds.... he may be into >>the use of toes by now... >> >>mayf...having fun... >> >> >>speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>>Heck, we helped make dirt and salt for you young punks to race on. >>>We get discounts on food etc. I am a young 74 and Wes has to use a >>>calculator to figure his as he runs out of fingers. NEXT!!!! >>>----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >>>To: >>>Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" >>>; "LSR" >>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM >>>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us >>>we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... From dlodom at charter.net Tue Jul 7 14:50:21 2009 From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 13:50:21 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com><6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net><59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC><4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com><6CE4ADC9DA74447785A46EA669CC0F37@GlenPC><4A53A177.8020007@mayfco.com><3EC2F13C1C2844E08ECB9D90A3EC1793@GlenPC> <20090707203221.211781878B6@autox.team.net> Message-ID: <028e01c9ff44$8be59df0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> Now I'm old, but I heard Glen gave Ben Hur his timing slip on a parchment scroll. Big ditch Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Higginbotham" To: ; Cc: "LSR" Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:32 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... >I am now officially staying out of this. Have fun oldtimers. > > Skip (Just a kid....8 months younger than at least one of you) > > > > > At 01:02 PM 7/7/2009, speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>Mayf >>Skip says it takes you 2 hours to watch 60 minutes and you are calling us >>old. >> >> >>Glen >> >> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >>To: >>Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" >>; "LSR" >>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:26 PM >>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have >>won money or Help is needing on transferring... >> >> >>>Oh, have we started a food fight between you older geezers now? As to >>>determining age, heck, Glen, I though they had to use carbon dating with >>>you at the social security office..... Now, I understand Wess uses the >>>finger and toe method... the hands are the tens digits and the toes are >>>the hundreds.... he may be into the use of toes by now... >>> >>>mayf...having fun... >>> >>> >>>speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >>> >>>>Heck, we helped make dirt and salt for you young punks to race on. We >>>>get discounts on food etc. I am a young 74 and Wes has to use a >>>>calculator to figure his as he runs out of fingers. NEXT!!!! >>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >>>>To: >>>>Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" >>>>; "LSR" >>>>Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM >>>>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have >>>>won money or Help is needing on transferring... > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as dlodom at charter.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Jul 7 15:12:59 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 7 Jul 2009 15:12:59 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <4A53A177.8020007@mayfco.com> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> <6CE4ADC9DA74447785A46EA669CC0F37@GlenPC> <4A53A177.8020007@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <1ACE370F-BDF7-41E3-8A21-98F8A36E3746@comcast.net> mayf, Now I'm worried about our space program if rocket scientists don't understand that kind of counting. Wes On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:26 PM, drmayf wrote: > Oh, have we started a food fight between you older geezers now? As > to determining age, heck, Glen, I though they had to use carbon > dating with you at the social security office..... Now, I > understand Wess uses the finger and toe method... the hands are the > tens digits and the toes are the hundreds.... he may be into the use > of toes by now... > > mayf...having fun... > > > speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >> Heck, we helped make dirt and salt for you young punks to race on. >> We get discounts on food etc. I am a young 74 and Wes has to use a >> calculator to figure his as he runs out of fingers. NEXT!!!! >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >> To: >> Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" > >; "LSR" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... From drmayf at mayfco.com Tue Jul 7 17:58:28 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:58:28 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we have won money or Help is needing on transferring... In-Reply-To: <1ACE370F-BDF7-41E3-8A21-98F8A36E3746@comcast.net> References: <4A513688.2070700@mayfco.com><5206234A-C12A-49C1-BCD5-494E805E130C@nancyandjon.org><4A515C83.50508@mayfco.com> <4A522A2D.8090508@wildblue.net><8D6B8339AF7B463A8C83556CB3E002B8@GlenPC><4A523897.3080100@mayfco.com> <4A5273B1.9070808@mayfco.com><4DF72C9C112947A785171B457DF8AF15@GlenPC><5D.E2.23449.1A7A25A4@msysmta01.broadbandsupport.net><48958AAF5B0F4D6491237F2AA4DADE18@GlenPC><4A52C9E6.1030207@mayfco.com> <6AB935D0-DE36-42FC-B38A-4155CE30F8CA@comcast.net> <59BFAF91D0AE4888B163A10D8EFD14D1@GlenPC> <4A538B74.4020308@mayfco.com> <6CE4ADC9DA74447785A46EA669CC0F37@GlenPC> <4A53A177.8020007@mayfco.com> <1ACE370F-BDF7-41E3-8A21-98F8A36E3746@comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A53E124.2030401@mayfco.com> Mostly we just counted beans... mayf Wester Potter wrote: > mayf, > > Now I'm worried about our space program if rocket scientists don't > understand that kind of counting. > > Wes > On Jul 7, 2009, at 1:26 PM, drmayf wrote: > >> Oh, have we started a food fight between you older geezers now? As >> to determining age, heck, Glen, I though they had to use carbon >> dating with you at the social security office..... Now, I >> understand Wess uses the finger and toe method... the hands are the >> tens digits and the toes are the hundreds.... he may be into the use >> of toes by now... >> >> mayf...having fun... >> >> >> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>> Heck, we helped make dirt and salt for you young punks to race on. >>> We get discounts on food etc. I am a young 74 and Wes has to use a >>> calculator to figure his as he runs out of fingers. NEXT!!!! >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" >>> To: >>> Cc: "Wester Potter" ; "Skip Higginbotham" >>> ; "LSR" >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:52 AM >>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: All those Emails telling us we >>> have won money or Help is needing on transferring... From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri Jul 10 07:51:20 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 06:51:20 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge Message-ID: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> I read an short notice about the Brits Steam car challenge arriving at Edwards AFB. Couple of things caught my eye...one being that it looks like someone forgot tot ell them that it gets hot in the desert, lol. The next is that they have fitted safety equipment required by the SCTA and that the car will be inspected for safety requirements by the SCTA and FIA. I am curious as to why the SCTA would be involved in that. Is this to be considered a steam record attempt under SCTA auspices and that any record might be set under the SCTA's authority? Will any record set be included in the SCTA records even though this is not an SCTA venue or event? I hope not, as that would set up a precedence that records can be set anywhere instead of the established venues. I can see a certificate of speed from the SCTA folk, just like for JJ and his H2 car, but not a record even though it mightbe over the existing record. An FIA record, sure, but not a SCTA record. Curious mayf From Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com Fri Jul 10 08:01:40 2009 From: Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com (MEIERLE Mike) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:01:40 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge In-Reply-To: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> References: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C32CA61@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Well, Edwards is a proper venue, Muroc Dry Lake, and there is a records repository. I ran there in 2000 and got my "C" License and met Keith Turk who got a Muroc 200MPH hat. I also know this is a Mike Cook LSR production, and maybe a lesson learned with the FIA Sanction. I expect this is a bit more above board than a TV Show production looking for ratings. Mike M. -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 9:51 AM To: LSR Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge I read an short notice about the Brits Steam car challenge arriving at Edwards AFB. Couple of things caught my eye...one being that it looks like someone forgot tot ell them that it gets hot in the desert, lol. The next is that they have fitted safety equipment required by the SCTA and that the car will be inspected for safety requirements by the SCTA and FIA. I am curious as to why the SCTA would be involved in that. Is this to be considered a steam record attempt under SCTA auspices and that any record might be set under the SCTA's authority? Will any record set be included in the SCTA records even though this is not an SCTA venue or event? I hope not, as that would set up a precedence that records can be set anywhere instead of the established venues. I can see a certificate of speed from the SCTA folk, just like for JJ and his H2 car, but not a record even though it mightbe over the existing record. An FIA record, sure, but not a SCTA record. Curious mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Fri Jul 10 08:16:39 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:16:39 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge In-Reply-To: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> References: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Mayf, they are not running for a SCTA record. SCTA is not timing the steam car. They are going after the FIA record and have plans to run at speed week for the BNI record.That will be done under the SCTA/BNI sanction. That's why the car was inspected to safety standards so it can run. As far as I know chronologic is doing the timing just as They were contracted for Jesse James at El Mirage. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: "LSR" Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 7:51 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge >I read an short notice about the Brits Steam car challenge arriving at >Edwards AFB. Couple of things caught my eye...one being that it looks like >someone forgot tot ell them that it gets hot in the desert, lol. The next >is that they have fitted safety equipment required by the SCTA and that the >car will be inspected for safety requirements by the SCTA and FIA. I am >curious as to why the SCTA would be involved in that. Is this to be >considered a steam record attempt under SCTA auspices and that any record >might be set under the SCTA's authority? Will any record set be included >in the SCTA records even though this is not an SCTA venue or event? I hope >not, as that would set up a precedence that records can be set anywhere >instead of the established venues. I can see a certificate of speed from >the SCTA folk, just like for JJ and his H2 car, but not a record even >though it mightbe over the existing record. An FIA record, sure, but not a >SCTA record. > > Curious > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org Fri Jul 10 08:26:35 2009 From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:26:35 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge In-Reply-To: References: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4AEE58EE-FD06-4D22-8BDB-13A9C6D54057@nancyandjon.org> On Jul 10, 2009, at 10:16 AM, wrote: Mayf, they are not running for a SCTA record. SCTA is not timing the steam car. They are going after the FIA record and have plans to run at speed week for the BNI record.That will be done under the SCTA/BNI sanction. That's why the car was inspected to safety standards so it can run. As far as I know chronologic is doing the timing just as They were contracted for Jesse James at El Mirage. Glen All: I didn't see any of the literature in discussion, but perhaps - just perhaps, for the sake of this discussion -- Glen is right -- that they're planning on running at an SCTA/BNI sanctioned meet. And also let's allow that perhaps they're making their attempt by adhering to BNI/SCTA requirements across the board. That way they could correctly state that they're "FOLLOWING" SCTA/BNI rules and requirements and procedures, such as using Chronologic for timing (yes, maybe the very same instruments as are used by the Rice Bros. at SpeedWeek and WF). Until I read the article I can only guess -- but I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now. I don't want another firestorm of Jesse- bashing. Jon Wennerberg Tall guy with moustache and a pair of 2 Club hats From dlodom at charter.net Fri Jul 10 08:28:14 2009 From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 07:28:14 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge References: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <039901ca016a$a99d4d20$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> I thought they were coming over to run Bonneville. I thought this run was just to tune up for Speedweek. Otherwise why would anyone try and run the desert in July? How is it that they get to run Edwards and we Americans can't? Also Curious, Big ditch Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: "LSR" Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 6:51 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge >I read an short notice about the Brits Steam car challenge arriving at >Edwards AFB. Couple of things caught my eye...one being that it looks like >someone forgot tot ell them that it gets hot in the desert, lol. The next >is that they have fitted safety equipment required by the SCTA and that the >car will be inspected for safety requirements by the SCTA and FIA. I am >curious as to why the SCTA would be involved in that. Is this to be >considered a steam record attempt under SCTA auspices and that any record >might be set under the SCTA's authority? Will any record set be included >in the SCTA records even though this is not an SCTA venue or event? I hope >not, as that would set up a precedence that records can be set anywhere >instead of the established venues. I can see a certificate of speed from >the SCTA folk, just like for JJ and his H2 car, but not a record even >though it mightbe over the existing record. An FIA record, sure, but not a >SCTA record. > > Curious > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as dlodom at charter.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From advo at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 09:18:16 2009 From: advo at comcast.net (Greg Meyers) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:18:16 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Lumps in the hood In-Reply-To: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Looks like I may need to put a blister in the hood to clear engine parts in our car. This is not going to have any opening which would help induction. We will be running in the modified classes. Can't find anything specific about this in the rulebook. Also, if I run out of time to make the blister, is there a problem with having a hole in the hood to allow clearance? Thanks! From gmc6power at earthlink.net Fri Jul 10 09:33:55 2009 From: gmc6power at earthlink.net (James Tone) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 08:33:55 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge Message-ID: <31142217.1247240035544.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Not that it is any of my business but every time some speed attempt is tried and spectators or media see Mike Cook and his company they just "assume" SCTA. Perhaps some are wearing SCTA or BNI clothing or gear I don't know. For sure there are always 200 MPH club red and blue hats or maroon hats being worn by someone. Many are familiar with the Rice Brothers also which again leads to the SCTA even though the Cooks hire them just as the SCTA and BNI do. There are always these assumptions. The SCTA and BNI have earned very high respect/credibility within the land speed community and as we all know put on their own specific events. I believe Mr Cook and his organization are filling a void just a USAC, Auto Club, and others have done in the past. I also belive they also inform people using their services of what they are doing and none of it will be reflected in the SCTA/BNI record books. It's too bad thhese assumptions are made and the current SCTA leaders need to write letters to inform the uninformed. I dfinately agree with Glen note; too bad others don't see it. >Mayf, they are not running for a SCTA record. SCTA is not timing the steam >car. They are going after the FIA record and have plans to run at speed week >for the BNI record.That will be done under the SCTA/BNI sanction. That's why >the car was inspected to safety standards so it can run. As far as I know >chronologic is doing the timing just as They were contracted for Jesse James >at El Mirage. >Glen From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Fri Jul 10 09:43:15 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:43:15 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam car Message-ID: Mike Cook is the interface between the Brits and Muroc. He was a key player when working with the officials at Edwards/Muroc when the return to Muroc programs/events were run from 1996 to the 911 base shut down. Mike knows all of the right contacts and protocal to make arrangements for use of the runways and safety operations. The Brits project paid all of the fees and proper permits. The timers are contracted as is the surveying of the course timing traps and distance.This is not a SCTA function. Glen From wester6935 at comcast.net Fri Jul 10 09:46:30 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:46:30 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge In-Reply-To: <31142217.1247240035544.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> References: <31142217.1247240035544.JavaMail.root@elwamui-cypress.atl.sa.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <850F3B77-B39C-416D-8712-1630F401929D@comcast.net> They actually reference a "Southern Timing Association" in the article in the link. I don't know if that is intentional or just a misunderstanding of the proper name or the SCTA. What's with the Brit's reluctance to run at sanctioned events? Perhaps Malcolm could shed some light on that for us. Muroc/Edwards AFB I can understand ... kinda. A Nevada highway ??? Their jet bike at a private time on the salt??? After the British Isles any venue south of Seatle is going to feel hot to those on the steam car's pit crew. Wes On Jul 10, 2009, at 9:33 AM, James Tone wrote: > Not that it is any of my business but every time some speed attempt > is tried and spectators or media see Mike Cook and his company they > just "assume" SCTA. Perhaps some are wearing SCTA or BNI clothing or > gear I don't know. For sure there are always 200 MPH club red and > blue hats or maroon hats being worn by someone. > > Many are familiar with the Rice Brothers also which again leads to > the SCTA even though the Cooks hire them just as the SCTA and BNI > do. There are always these assumptions. The SCTA and BNI have earned > very high respect/credibility within the land speed community and as > we all know put on their own specific events. > > I believe Mr Cook and his organization are filling a void just a > USAC, Auto Club, and others have done in the past. I also belive > they also inform people using their services of what they are doing > and none of it will be reflected in the SCTA/BNI record books. It's > too bad thhese assumptions are made and the current SCTA leaders > need to write letters to inform the uninformed. I dfinately agree > with Glen note; too bad others don't see it. > > >> Mayf, they are not running for a SCTA record. SCTA is not timing >> the steam >> car. They are going after the FIA record and have plans to run at >> speed week >> for the BNI record.That will be done under the SCTA/BNI sanction. >> That's why >> the car was inspected to safety standards so it can run. As far as >> I know >> chronologic is doing the timing just as They were contracted for >> Jesse James >> at El Mirage. >> Glen > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as wester6935 at comcast.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From SCowle at mentorcollege.edu Fri Jul 10 10:10:51 2009 From: SCowle at mentorcollege.edu (Scott Cowle) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:10:51 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Funny car stuff Message-ID: <4A572FCB020000380000B5E6@gw.mentorcollege.edu> Hi Guys and Gals-go on Mopar Action's website and look at the Extras section-look up Ehrenberg's favourite multimedia stuff.It is absolutely priceless ! Funniest car stuff I've seen in a while. Everybody can laugh at these videos. Scott-wishing I could get back down to Maxton,but it won't happen until next year. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This communication may contain confidential or privileged proprietary material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, or distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, or authorized to receive the information from the recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies of this message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <<>> From jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org Fri Jul 10 10:17:50 2009 From: jonwennerberg at nancyandjon.org (Jon Wennerberg) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:17:50 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Funny car stuff In-Reply-To: <4A572FCB020000380000B5E6@gw.mentorcollege.edu> References: <4A572FCB020000380000B5E6@gw.mentorcollege.edu> Message-ID: <77136322-4366-4CF2-AAB7-BD92015D580F@nancyandjon.org> On Jul 10, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Scott Cowle wrote: Hi Guys and Gals-go on Mopar Action's website and look at the Extras section-look up Ehrenberg's favourite multimedia stuff.It is absolutely priceless ! Funniest car stuff I've seen in a while. Everybody can laugh at these videos. Scott-wishing I could get back down to Maxton,but it won't happen until next year. Scott: Well, save us the searching and send along a link, hey? Jon Wennerberg Tall guy with moustache and a pair of 2 Club hats From SCowle at mentorcollege.edu Fri Jul 10 10:43:27 2009 From: SCowle at mentorcollege.edu (Scott Cowle) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:43:27 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Funny car stuff In-Reply-To: <77136322-4366-4CF2-AAB7-BD92015D580F@nancyandjon.org> References: <4A572FCB020000380000B5E6@gw.mentorcollege.edu> <77136322-4366-4CF2-AAB7-BD92015D580F@nancyandjon.org> Message-ID: <4A57376F020000380000B5F4@gw.mentorcollege.edu> Hi Jon-of course you are right-I'm not computer savy-it is at www.moparaction.com/extra/multi.html. Scott >>> Jon Wennerberg 7/10/2009 12:17 PM >>> On Jul 10, 2009, at 12:10 PM, Scott Cowle wrote: Hi Guys and Gals-go on Mopar Action's website and look at the Extras section-look up Ehrenberg's favourite multimedia stuff.It is absolutely priceless ! Funniest car stuff I've seen in a while. Everybody can laugh at these videos. Scott-wishing I could get back down to Maxton,but it won't happen until next year. Scott: Well, save us the searching and send along a link, hey? Jon Wennerberg Tall guy with moustache and a pair of 2 Club hats ---------------------------------------------------------------------- This communication may contain confidential or privileged proprietary material for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any review, use, or distribution or disclosure by others is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, or authorized to receive the information from the recipient, please contact the sender by email and delete all copies of this message. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- <<>> From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Fri Jul 10 11:05:11 2009 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:05:11 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Challenge In-Reply-To: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> References: <4A574758.1000701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A5774C7.10107@wildblue.net> As an old Army Brat, it's obvious to me. The current base Commander is using the SCTA for safety because the USAF has used the SCTA before to do the same job. If something goes wrong, he can drag the guy who made the original decision, and his CO, in to share the blame. Simple it's simple CYA, Bryan drmayf wrote: > I read an short notice about the Brits Steam car challenge arriving at > Edwards AFB. Couple of things caught my eye...one being that it looks > like someone forgot tot ell them that it gets hot in the desert, lol. > The next is that they have fitted safety equipment required by the > SCTA and that the car will be inspected for safety requirements by the > SCTA and FIA. I am curious as to why the SCTA would be involved in > that. Is this to be considered a steam record attempt under SCTA > auspices and that any record might be set under the SCTA's authority? > Will any record set be included in the SCTA records even though this > is not an SCTA venue or event? I hope not, as that would set up a > precedence that records can be set anywhere instead of the established > venues. I can see a certificate of speed from the SCTA folk, just > like for JJ and his H2 car, but not a record even though it mightbe > over the existing record. An FIA record, sure, but not a SCTA record. > > Curious > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as b.a.savage at wildblue.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From ol38y at yahoo.com Fri Jul 10 16:03:11 2009 From: ol38y at yahoo.com (Larry Cason) Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:03:11 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] (no subject) Message-ID: <117494.16510.qm@web81302.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I thought they were coming over to run Bonneville. I thought this run was just to tune up for Speedweek. Otherwise why would anyone try and run the desert in July? Also Curious, Big ditch Doug I'm wondering the same thing as I load up for El Miarge...LOL From wester6935 at comcast.net Tue Jul 14 20:59:05 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:59:05 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] salt conditions Message-ID: <426D4BBE-D3BF-4AC9-8E31-E5340858AE72@comcast.net> Just had a call from one of the guys who was on the salt today. The courses will be in about the same locations as last year. The first two miles of the long course and corresponding areas on the short courses are damp for the first two miles. The rest of the courses are fine and will be great once they are dragged. A few more days and the first couple of miles will be good for dragging to make an extremely good course by Speedweek. The forecast is for warmer weather with occasional showers, mostly over the mountains east of the Great Salt Lake and Utah Lake. Sounds like Lands End Lynda will be perched high and dry presiding over the entrance to great courses.. See you on the salt! Wes From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri Jul 17 08:57:41 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 07:57:41 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries Message-ID: <4A609165.6010509@mayfco.com> Anybody have a guess as to the current number of pre entries? Just curious as to how long the lines will be, lol... mayf From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Fri Jul 17 09:19:57 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:19:57 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries In-Reply-To: <4A609165.6010509@mayfco.com> References: <4A609165.6010509@mayfco.com> Message-ID: Mayf. Pre entries are 514. The lists are posted on the SCTA web site. (500 of those are running in your class LOL.) Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: "LSR" Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:57 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries > Anybody have a guess as to the current number of pre entries? Just > curious as to how long the lines will be, lol... > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri Jul 17 10:07:20 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 09:07:20 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries In-Reply-To: References: <4A609165.6010509@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A60A1B8.20109@mayfco.com> S much for the economy as a factor, lol. And even with the outrageously high room rates at the big three.... And yes, all of those cars will be in front of me! If the salt cooperates, however, I will be spending some time over on the short or third course if it happens. I want to make a couple of runs to see what the new spoiler is gonna do coupled with the added weight for traction, etc. And how the new fender wells and pointy things that replaced the headlight rims are going to work. And of course, my new supersecret power adders. They can be seen for the first time in inspection.... I plan at least two runs on the short course (#3) to check spoiler angle, and water injection on and off and parachute operation behind the spoiler. And if I can get the small camera working some vids of it working. And good engine data... last year was wasted motion for me due to driver/mechanic/computer tech operations. Yeah, me, I screwed up.... hard to believe, but there it is... mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > Mayf. > Pre entries are 514. The lists are posted on the SCTA web site. (500 > of those are running in your class LOL.) > Glen > ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" > To: "LSR" > Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 8:57 AM > Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries > > >> Anybody have a guess as to the current number of pre entries? Just >> curious as to how long the lines will be, lol... >> >> mayf >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Fri Jul 17 18:54:35 2009 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 19:54:35 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Speed Week Pre-entries In-Reply-To: <4A60A1B8.20109@mayfco.com> References: <4A609165.6010509@mayfco.com> <4A60A1B8.20109@mayfco.com> Message-ID: " last year was wasted motion for me due to driver/mechanic/computer tech operations. Yeah, me, I screwed up.... hard to believe, but there it is..." Oh crap, I've been that guy!!! See ya on the salt, Mayf. Jim Webb Choc Full o' Nuts A/PP B/PP D/PP ?/FL From wester6935 at comcast.net Fri Jul 17 21:50:16 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 21:50:16 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Think you have heard everything? Message-ID: I wonder if they would make a new class for this fuel? I don't think they have a class for hydrogen fuel as yet, depends on whether they use it to make electricity or run it through the injectors/ carburetor. Jon Amo tried it in his oil with satisfactory results ...! http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/07/pee-powered-cars/ From dwarner230 at yahoo.com Sat Jul 18 11:53:03 2009 From: dwarner230 at yahoo.com (dan warner) Date: Sat, 18 Jul 2009 10:53:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Hydrogen fuel Message-ID: <94978.1314.qm@web52505.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Wes says: "I don't think they have a class for hydrogen fuel as yet,..." Rulebook says: Page 17, section 2.B, yes there is a place to use Hydogen fuel. DW From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Sun Jul 19 08:38:14 2009 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:38:14 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms Message-ID: Greetings to all. We are in the final throws of getting our junk ready to head to the salt and of as we all know, there are no rooms at the Inn. If by any chance any of you have members drop out or extra rooms, I sure could use some. At least I need to come up with one for my dear wife, as she has informed me that I can sleep in the parking lot, but she can't! Anyway, best of luck to all - it looks like it's going to be a big year. Jim Webb Choc Full o' Nuts A/PP B/PP D/PP ?/FL From kturk at adelphia.net Sun Jul 19 08:45:31 2009 From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:45:31 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms References: Message-ID: <02F937701CD24C13B90B97D5A08A22CD@keithhrijwmm4p> Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... K From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 19 09:23:26 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 08:23:26 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <02F937701CD24C13B90B97D5A08A22CD@keithhrijwmm4p> References: <02F937701CD24C13B90B97D5A08A22CD@keithhrijwmm4p> Message-ID: <4A633A6E.40503@mayfco.com> Keith Turk wrote: > Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... > > K > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost you 600 bucks. Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy last SpeedWeek. How is So Al? 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the pavement.. How are you doing? hello to Mz Tonya for us mayf From kturk at adelphia.net Sun Jul 19 09:41:03 2009 From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:41:03 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Stuff/ was rooms References: <02F937701CD24C13B90B97D5A08A22CD@keithhrijwmm4p> <4A633A6E.40503@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <6F0DF06E1861449F8EAC4076CEE142E8@keithhrijwmm4p> We're good... it's nice to see Speedweek becoming more like Speedweek at Daytona... lovely that our host Hotels treat us so well... maybe we should start a Camping campain... hmmm nahhh but seems like we tried to accommidate them last year... and it didnt' seem to do anythying but piss them off.... hmmm K From NT788 at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 10:27:11 2009 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <4A633A6E.40503@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> More media coverage,and some big sponsorship, could fix everything! Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: "Keith Turk" Cc: "LSR" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:23:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms Keith Turk wrote: > Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... > > K > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net B http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost B you 600 bucks. B Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy last SpeedWeek. How is So Al? B 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the pavement.. How are you doing? hello to Mz Tonya for us mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as nt788 at comcast.net http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From dlodom at charter.net Sun Jul 19 10:45:16 2009 From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 09:45:16 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms References: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <011b01ca0890$4b974c80$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > More media coverage,and some big sponsorship, could fix everything! > > Jack > Yes Jack, And more Rat Rods and non racers would really help. Big ditch Doug From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 19 11:12:31 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:12:31 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A6353FF.4050403@mayfco.com> Do the events really get a lot of media coverage? From HR magazine and maybe some local SLC news but not much elsewhere. We are getting big sponsorship are we not? It now takes organizations with the engineering power and sponsorship to take cars into the new records. What if entries were limited to once every two years? I'll use me as an example... I would only be able to submit an entry only every other year (yeah, I know there are some who would limit me to never, lol). Seems like that would cut down on the number of entries and make the events easier to manage. Run a separate bike event following or preceding SW? Ditto for the very large roadster classes? Make SW two weeks long and run different classes at different times during the time period? Ie, something like 4 days of bikes, 4 days of roadsters, 4 days of everything else? A staged event. Would take more volunteers to implement and maybe that is the killer. Expand WOS and run it immediately before or after SW?... I can hear it now, lol.... let the flames begin but remember, hate crimes now include speaking out against a person, so be gentle or you might become the Supreme COurt test case, lol.... and we know where that is going... mayf NT788 at comcast.net wrote: > More media coverage,and some big sponsorship, could fix everything! > > Jack > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "drmayf" > To: "Keith Turk" > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:23:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > > Keith Turk wrote: > > > Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... > > > > K > > _______________________________________________ > > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > > > Land-speed mailing list > > > > You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com > > > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > > > > > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the > Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost you 600 > bucks. Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out > my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring > you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 > x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy > last SpeedWeek. > > How is So Al? 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and > around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the > pavement.. > How are you doing? > > hello to Mz Tonya for us > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as nt788 at comcast.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 19 11:16:18 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 10:16:18 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> References: <462596222.2712691248020831634.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Message-ID: <4A6354E2.3070805@mayfco.com> Forgot to delete the trailers... her it is again mayf ********************************************************************************* Do the events really get a lot of media coverage? From HR magazine and maybe some local SLC news but not much elsewhere. We are getting big sponsorship are we not? It now takes organizations with the engineering power and sponsorship to take cars into the new records. What if entries were limited to once every two years? I'll use me as an example... I would only be able to submit an entry only every other year (yeah, I know there are some who would limit me to never, lol). Seems like that would cut down on the number of entries and make the events easier to manage. Run a separate bike event following or preceding SW? Ditto for the very large roadster classes? Make SW two weeks long and run different classes at different times during the time period? Ie, something like 4 days of bikes, 4 days of roadsters, 4 days of everything else? A staged event. Would take more volunteers to implement and maybe that is the killer. Expand WOS and run it immediately before or after SW?... I can hear it now, lol.... let the flames begin but remember, hate crimes now include speaking out against a person, so be gentle or you might become the Supreme COurt test case, lol.... and we know where that is going... mayf NT788 at comcast.net wrote: > More media coverage,and some big sponsorship, could fix everything! > > Jack > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "drmayf" > To: "Keith Turk" > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:23:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > > Keith Turk wrote: > > > Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... > > > > K > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the > Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost you 600 > bucks. Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out > my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring > you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 > x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy > last SpeedWeek. > > How is So Al? 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and > around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the > pavement.. > How are you doing? > > hello to Mz Tonya for us > > mayf > _______________________________________________ From v4gmr at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 12:14:09 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 11:14:09 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms Message-ID: <497202.58141.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> This is why my car has been entered at WoS for the last few years. Same salt. Same records. Same motels. Cheaper rooms. Almost no Rat Rods. Why not? > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost you 600 bucks. Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy last SpeedWeek. How is So Al? 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the pavement.. How are you doing? hello to Mz Tonya for us mayf From drmayf at mayfco.com Sun Jul 19 13:41:04 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:41:04 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <497202.58141.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <497202.58141.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4A6376D0.4050308@mayfco.com> For the first three year I tried to go to both. But the expense is now killing me, lol... mayf Rich Fox wrote: > > This is why my car has been entered at WoS for the last few years. > Same salt. Same records. Same motels. Cheaper rooms. Almost no Rat > Rods. Why not? > > > > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of > the Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost you > 600 bucks. Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would > cancel out my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the > SCTA requiring you to be present at the event o get a refund and > the hotels requiring 3 x the first night room rate, the I cannot > afford to!! So this is omy last SpeedWeek. > > How is So Al? 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same > today and around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your > shoes to the pavement.. > How are you doing? > > hello to Mz Tonya for us > > mayf From dlodom at charter.net Sun Jul 19 14:30:52 2009 From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:30:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms References: <497202.58141.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <012c01ca08af$cff947c0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> Rich, Shhhhhhhh Keep it down. If them hotel butt nuggets find out, they will raise the price to SW prices. Big ditch Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Fox" To: "Keith Turk" ; Cc: "'LSR'" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > This is why my car has been entered at WoS for the last few years. Same > salt. > Same records. Same motels. Cheaper rooms. Almost no Rat Rods. Why not? From v4gmr at yahoo.com Sun Jul 19 14:32:46 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 13:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms Message-ID: <667775.20715.qm@web51005.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Once again. That's one reason I don't enter Speedweek. Save up for WoS. --- On Sun, 7/19/09, drmayf wrote: From: drmayf Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms To: "Rich Fox" Cc: "'LSR'" Date: Sunday, July 19, 2009, 12:41 PM For the first three year I tried to go to both. But the expense is now killing me, lol... mayf Rich Fox wrote: > > This is why my car has been entered at WoS for the last few years. > Same salt. Same records. Same motels. Cheaper rooms. Almost no Rat > Rods. Why not? > > > > > From wester6935 at comcast.net Sun Jul 19 15:48:08 2009 From: wester6935 at comcast.net (Wester Potter) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 15:48:08 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <012c01ca08af$cff947c0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> References: <497202.58141.qm@web51011.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <012c01ca08af$cff947c0$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> Message-ID: Naaah, they just schedule Air Races and a Golf Tournament for Saturday of that week. The racers are usually checked out by Saturday at noon. Wes On Jul 19, 2009, at 2:30 PM, Doug Odom wrote: > Rich, Shhhhhhhh Keep it down. If them hotel butt nuggets find out, > they will raise the price to SW prices. > > Big ditch Doug > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Fox" > To: "Keith Turk" ; > Cc: "'LSR'" > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 11:14 AM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > > >> This is why my car has been entered at WoS for the last few years. >> Same salt. >> Same records. Same motels. Cheaper rooms. Almost no Rat Rods. Why >> not? > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as wester6935 at comcast.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From want1937hd at aol.com Sun Jul 19 18:31:55 2009 From: want1937hd at aol.com (want1937hd at aol.com) Date: Sun, 19 Jul 2009 20:31:55 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] add to list Message-ID: <8CBD6E89E49C7AB-F1C-5338@webmail-dx10.sysops.aol.com> Hello, Just recieved a request to reply and I guess renew my membership. Bestwishes, Bob From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 20 08:05:45 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:05:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts Message-ID: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> I see in a news release that the Brits will attempt to break the steam record of 127 mph soon, maybe even today. But the news release claims that it will be a *world* record. So is the FIA involved or not? Is it going to make a pair of runs in opposite directions within one hour or not? Is it going to be a SCTA record? If so, how is that done? A certificate of speed? I hope it is not a SCTA record because it is not an event open to competitors. If the old record was set on the salt then that is where any SCTA record breaking that speed should be done. mayf From v4gmr at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 08:16:48 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 07:16:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts Message-ID: <797599.55121.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I believe the rule book states that SCTA/BNI records can only be set at SCTA/BNI meets. One of the things Jesse failed to appreciate. Therefore this is I believe a "Worlds record Academy" record. They offered to certify my "Worlds Fastest Packard Powered Post War GM Product" record for $2995. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, drmayf wrote: From: drmayf Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts To: "LSR" Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:05 AM I see in a news release that the Brits will attempt to break the steam record of 127 mph soon, maybe even today. But the news release claims that it will be a *world* record. So is the FIA involved or not? Is it going to make a pair of runs in opposite directions within one hour or not? Is it going to be a SCTA record? If so, how is that done? A certificate of speed? I hope it is not a SCTA record because it is not an event open to competitors. If the old record was set on the salt then that is where any SCTA record breaking that speed should be done. mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as v4gmr at yahoo.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com Mon Jul 20 08:24:36 2009 From: Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com (MEIERLE Mike) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 09:24:36 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C38AF96@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Mayf, Been hashed already, they are nothing like Mr. Bullock. (aka. Jesse James);-) They are doing FIA at Edwards and They are supposed to come to Speedweek and do the salt thing. http://www.steamcar.co.uk/media/press_releases/press_release_july09.html All on the up and up so to say, you got steam in that sunbeam? An extra power adder perhaps? Mike Meierle #847 F/BMMP SCTA-BNI/Gear Grinders/Sidewinders/ECTA ECTA Record Holder -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 10:06 AM To: LSR Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts I see in a news release that the Brits will attempt to break the steam record of 127 mph soon, maybe even today. But the news release claims that it will be a *world* record. So is the FIA involved or not? Is it going to make a pair of runs in opposite directions within one hour or not? Is it going to be a SCTA record? If so, how is that done? A certificate of speed? I hope it is not a SCTA record because it is not an event open to competitors. If the old record was set on the salt then that is where any SCTA record breaking that speed should be done. mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as mike.meierle at alcatel-lucent.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From DavidAdin at mercydurango.org Mon Jul 20 08:25:25 2009 From: DavidAdin at mercydurango.org (Adin, David) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 08:25:25 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <797599.55121.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Hahahaha, I forgot to tell Mayf that I have the fastest car in my driveway (when something runs) AND the fastest car on my side of the street! Yeah, I'm poking fun at the "World's record" this or that. Don't think for a minute I don't Respect the accomplishments of the Sparky's and Turk's and Skip's and ALL the folks that get out and run something. Maybe it is just a "one good run" goal philosophy? Enough psychoanalysis, eh? -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Rich Fox Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 8:17 AM To: LSR; drmayf at mayfco.com Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts I believe the rule book states that SCTA/BNI records can only be set at SCTA/BNI meets. One of the things Jesse failed to appreciate. Therefore this is I believe a "Worlds record Academy" record. They offered to certify my "Worlds Fastest Packard Powered Post War GM Product" record for $2995. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, drmayf wrote: From: drmayf Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts To: "LSR" Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 7:05 AM I see in a news release that the Brits will attempt to break the steam record of 127 mph soon, maybe even today. But the news release claims that it will be a *world* record. So is the FIA involved or not? Is it going to make a pair of runs in opposite directions within one hour or not? Is it going to be a SCTA record? If so, how is that done? A certificate of speed? I hope it is not a SCTA record because it is not an event open to competitors. If the old record was set on the salt then that is where any SCTA record breaking that speed should be done. mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as v4gmr at yahoo.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as davidadin at mercydurango.org http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From NT788 at comcast.net Mon Jul 20 10:25:00 2009 From: NT788 at comcast.net (NT788 at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:25:00 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms In-Reply-To: <4A6354E2.3070805@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <313916625.2970971248107100264.JavaMail.root@sz0044a.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net> Its evolution baby! ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: NT788 at comcast.net Cc: "LSR" , "Keith Turk" Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 10:16:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms Forgot to delete the trailers... her it is again mayf ***************************************************************************** **** Do the events really get a lot of media coverage? B From HR magazine and maybe some local SLC news but not much elsewhere. We are getting big sponsorship are we not? It now takes organizations with the engineering power and sponsorship to take cars into the new records. B What if entries were limited to once every two years? I'll use me as an example... I would only be able to submit an entry only every other year (yeah, I know there are some who would limit me to never, lol). B Seems like that would cut down on the number of entries and make the events easier to manage. Run a separate bike event following or preceding B SW? Ditto for the very large roadster classes? B Make SW two weeks long and run different classes at different times during the time period? B Ie, something like 4 days of bikes, 4 days of roadsters, 4 days of everything else? B A staged event. B Would take more volunteers to implement and maybe that is the killer. Expand WOS and run it immediately before or after SW?... I can hear it now, lol.... let the flames begin but remember, hate crimes now include speaking out against a person, so be gentle or you might become the Supreme COurt test case, lol.... and we know where that is going... mayf NT788 at comcast.net wrote: > More media coverage,and some big sponsorship, could fix everything! > > Jack > > B > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "drmayf" > To: "Keith Turk" > Cc: "LSR" > Sent: Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:23:26 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] The Never Ending Quest for Rooms > > Keith Turk wrote: > > > Keep in mind it's also the Cancellation season... > > > > K > > _______________________________________________ > > B > > > > > Keith, if you booked one of the big three, Peppermill, Rainbow of the > Monte Largo or what ever it is, a cancellation will cost B you 600 > bucks. B Yup, part of the reservation fees and notes. I would cancel out > my event this year but I can't afford to, lol. With the SCTA requiring > you to be present at the event o get a refund and the hotels requiring 3 > x the first night room rate, the I cannot afford to!! So this is omy > last SpeedWeek. > > How is So Al? B 115 here yesterday and expected to be the same today and > around 110 for the next week. Hot enough to melt your shoes to the > pavement.. > How are you doing? > > hello to Mz Tonya for us > > mayf > _______________________________________________ From kturk at adelphia.net Mon Jul 20 13:01:02 2009 From: kturk at adelphia.net (Keith Turk) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:01:02 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I believe it's a FIA attempt. K From Saltrat at pahrump.com Mon Jul 20 13:06:59 2009 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 12:06:59 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts Message-ID: <20090720190657.DFAC3187672@autox.team.net> List: I have finally got a blower pulley/belt combination that fits the engine.....I added an inter cooler this year and naturally had to change pulleys and belt for the 8-71. Little did I know that I would accept advice from those who should know and spend time and money on a drive system that would not fit. Finally RBS Superchargers sold me the right stuff.... All well and good but it was still a guessing game. How many pulley teeth to get to the ratio? How many teeth on the belt? What is the center to center dimension crank to snout? What kind of engine is it? Inter cooler or not? I researched all the blower, pulley, belt companies to find an accurate chart with which to find the combo that I wanted.......I couldn't find a single chart that matched the tooth count/belt combo that is now correctly installed on the engine. I must have missed a source of info....... Does anyone know of a formula to use to get to the correct drive setup the first time? Please...... Thanks, Skip From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 20 13:10:30 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:10:30 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> Message-ID: <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> The steam car is a FIA record attempt. The Rice Bros. (Chronologic) are timing it along with a FIA steward on site to witness the vehicle and turn around times. It is not a function of SCTA. As I was told they still plan on Speed Week after this attempt and if all works out they will go after the BNI class record. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" To: ; "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:01 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts > Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I > believe it's a FIA attempt. > > K > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From mbp01 at sky.com Mon Jul 20 13:37:59 2009 From: mbp01 at sky.com (Malcolm Pittwood) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 20:37:59 +0100 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4bc5a3b00907201237j790156c0t7fbbeeba69d66296@mail.gmail.com> Just before he left for the USA Don Wales confirmed to me that the word 'World' had been slipped into a report by someone who was not fully aware of the significance of the use of this one word in the context of LSR. Equally the Guinness references and World Records Academy are an add on and are nothing to do with attempt governance. The bid is fully FIA, so it is a bid for an International Class Record, with two runs within one hour being aggregated to arrive at the average time and therefore a speed. According to the FIA record lists they will be establishing a new record, but their speed is dictated by Bonneville history. I did not know they would stay on for Speedweek but that ois a good idea, as they are reporting from behind the security zone of Edwards AFB and have little opportunity to have anyone but team members on the prmises. Just do not stand behind the car when it is fuelled! I undertand that they do not use a push truck to get the car moving so if anyone is in line behind them - stay well back - unless your vehicle does need a steam claen. Malcolm UK On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 8:10 PM, wrote: > The steam car is a FIA record attempt. The Rice Bros. (Chronologic) are > timing it along with a FIA steward on site to witness the vehicle and turn > around times. It is not a function of SCTA. As I was told they still plan on > Speed Week after this attempt and if all works out they will go after the > BNI class record. > > Glen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" > To: ; "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts > > > Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I >> believe it's a FIA attempt. >> >> K >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed >> > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as mbp01 at sky.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From v4gmr at yahoo.com Mon Jul 20 14:15:48 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:15:48 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts Message-ID: <681545.77018.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I thought they were all 1/2 inch pitch or the rounded metric pitch. Looks like counting the teeth and dividing would give you the ratio. I don't understand the question. --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Skip Higginbotham wrote: From: Skip Higginbotham Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts To: land-speed at autox.team.net Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 12:06 PM List: I have finally got a blower pulley/belt combination that fits the engine.....I added an inter cooler this year and naturally had to change pulleys and belt for the 8-71. Little did I know that I would accept advice from those who should know and spend time and money on a drive system that would not fit. Finally RBS Superchargers sold me the right stuff.... All well and good but it was still a guessing game. How many pulley teeth to get to the ratio? How many teeth on the belt? What is the center to center dimension crank to snout? What kind of engine is it? Inter cooler or not? I researched all the blower, pulley, belt companies to find an accurate chart with which to find the combo that I wanted.......I couldn't find a single chart that matched the tooth count/belt combo that is now correctly installed on the engine. I must have missed a source of info....... Does anyone know of a formula to use to get to the correct drive setup the first time? Please...... Thanks, Skip Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as v4gmr at yahoo.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 20 14:22:38 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:22:38 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts In-Reply-To: <681545.77018.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <681545.77018.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: I sent Skip a PM . I have a blower over drive chart and will try to post on line. Trying to get my scanner back on line. I will post it when I do. What Rich said is correct, just like gears. Blower drive service has some charts on line. Glen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Fox" To: ; "Skip Higginbotham" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts >I thought they were all 1/2 inch pitch or the rounded metric pitch. Looks >like > counting the teeth and dividing would give you the ratio. I don't > understand > the question. > > --- On Mon, 7/20/09, Skip Higginbotham wrote: > > > From: Skip Higginbotham > Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts > To: land-speed at autox.team.net > Date: Monday, July 20, 2009, 12:06 PM > > > List: > > I have finally got a blower pulley/belt combination that fits the > engine.....I > added an inter cooler this year and naturally had to change pulleys and > belt > for the 8-71. Little did I know that I would accept advice from those who > should know and spend time and money on a drive system that would not fit. > Finally RBS Superchargers sold me the right stuff.... > > All well and good but it was still a guessing game. How many pulley teeth > to > get to the ratio? How many teeth on the belt? What is the center to center > dimension crank to snout? > What kind of engine is it? Inter cooler or not? I researched all the > blower, > pulley, belt companies to find an accurate chart with which to find the > combo > that I wanted.......I couldn't find a single chart that matched the tooth > count/belt combo that is now correctly installed on the engine. > > I must have missed a source of info....... > > Does anyone know of a formula to use to get to the correct drive setup the > first time? Please...... > > Thanks, > Skip > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as v4gmr at yahoo.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From sotacd at comcast.net Mon Jul 20 14:38:40 2009 From: sotacd at comcast.net (Steve Christophersen) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:38:40 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts References: <681545.77018.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7ADC1D8F080F4ACA81C53341079638F2@stevescomp> RCD makes the best stuff and has lots of this info on their site and more on the phone: http://www.rcdengineering.com/index.html Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Rich Fox" ; ; "SkipHigginbotham" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:22 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts >I sent Skip a PM . I have a blower over drive chart and will try to post on >line. Trying to get my scanner back on line. I will post it when I do. What >Rich said is correct, just like gears. Blower drive service has some charts >on line. > Glen > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4262 (20090720) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From Saltrat at pahrump.com Mon Jul 20 15:32:18 2009 From: Saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:32:18 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts Message-ID: <20090720213217.75BED18766B@autox.team.net> Yes, the ratio is simple. Once you have a ratio then you have to find a belt that is close to the right length. In order to do that, you need the pitch (8MM in my case) and then a tooth count to match up with your c to c dimension. Having done that, you then go back and look at the ratio/tooth count charts to verify that the desired ratio has the correct tooth count. OK, but the charts from various helpful supercharger companies vary as to belt size and tooth count. I have printed all the charts that I can find, compared them and they don't agree totally. I am looking for a formula that I can calculate the ratio and belt length for my c to c dimension. Or if I have a desired ratio, a desired tooth count that fits within the available belt parameters. Pulley diameters would also work, I would think. Thanks, Skip From saltrat at pahrump.com Mon Jul 20 15:57:19 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:57:19 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts In-Reply-To: <7ADC1D8F080F4ACA81C53341079638F2@stevescomp> References: <681545.77018.qm@web51007.mail.re2.yahoo.com> <7ADC1D8F080F4ACA81C53341079638F2@stevescomp> Message-ID: <20090720215718.014A518766F@autox.team.net> Thanks Steve. RCD is one of the charts that I have downloaded. Their recommended tooth count charts do not have the pulley combination that I now have on the engine......I am wondering why not. When I asked several companies about this problem, they all say that there is no accurate chart.....or they send me to another blower company.....so.....what formulas are used to make up the charts? I would guess that Gates knows but they will not share.....with me. Skip At 01:38 PM 7/20/2009, Steve Christophersen wrote: >RCD makes the best stuff and has lots of this info on their site and >more on the phone: > >http://www.rcdengineering.com/index.html > >Steve > >----- Original Message ----- From: >To: "Rich Fox" ; ; >"SkipHigginbotham" >Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:22 PM >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Blower pulleys and belts > > >>I sent Skip a PM . I have a blower over drive chart and will try to >>post on line. Trying to get my scanner back on line. I will post it >>when I do. What Rich said is correct, just like gears. Blower drive >>service has some charts on line. >>Glen > >__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >signature database 4262 (20090720) __________ > >The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >http://www.eset.com >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Land-speed mailing list > >You are subscribed as saltrat at pahrump.com > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 20 16:30:23 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:30:23 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A64EFFF.9090104@mayfco.com> Great! I wonder why information like this is not up front? The salt record is 145. I wonder if they can get it to run that fast at that density altitude? The oxygen content for the flash steam boilers is a lot less than desireable for that kind of system. Curious, will they need to run the car on the short course to show that it can qualify for the long course to run? I suspect it is a slow speed gatherer like a turbojet engine. That might eliminate the short courses. mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > The steam car is a FIA record attempt. The Rice Bros. (Chronologic) > are timing it along with a FIA steward on site to witness the vehicle > and turn around times. It is not a function of SCTA. As I was told > they still plan on Speed Week after this attempt and if all works out > they will go after the BNI class record. > > Glen > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" > To: ; "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:01 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts > > >> Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I >> believe it's a FIA attempt. >> >> K >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Mon Jul 20 16:39:49 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 16:39:49 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <4A64EFFF.9090104@mayfco.com> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> <4A64EFFF.9090104@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <6889AD3C40E64154B29E3F45591E3FEE@GlenPC> Page 9 1-F Streamliners are allowed to run the long course without a 175 2-1/4 mile qual. run. GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" To: Cc: "Keith Turk" ; "LSR" Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts > Great! I wonder why information like this is not up front? The salt > record is 145. I wonder if they can get it to run that fast at that > density altitude? The oxygen content for the flash steam boilers is a lot > less than desireable for that kind of system. Curious, will they need to > run the car on the short course to show that it can qualify for the long > course to run? I suspect it is a slow speed gatherer like a turbojet > engine. That might eliminate the short courses. > > mayf > speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > >> The steam car is a FIA record attempt. The Rice Bros. (Chronologic) are >> timing it along with a FIA steward on site to witness the vehicle and >> turn around times. It is not a function of SCTA. As I was told they still >> plan on Speed Week after this attempt and if all works out they will go >> after the BNI class record. >> >> Glen >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" >> To: ; "LSR" >> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:01 PM >> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts >> >> >>> Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I >>> believe it's a FIA attempt. >>> >>> K >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>> >>> Land-speed mailing list >>> >>> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >>> >>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 20 16:47:15 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 15:47:15 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts In-Reply-To: <6889AD3C40E64154B29E3F45591E3FEE@GlenPC> References: <4A6479B9.30309@mayfco.com> <639E5C18CBD3477584FDE639DE0FB598@keithhrijwmm4p> <87F2B848A41948C4B157E531BB456760@GlenPC> <4A64EFFF.9090104@mayfco.com> <6889AD3C40E64154B29E3F45591E3FEE@GlenPC> Message-ID: <4A64F3F2.1010605@mayfco.com> Well, of course they are... I forgot.... is thrust allowed? mayf speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: > Page 9 1-F Streamliners are allowed to run the long course without a > 175 2-1/4 mile qual. run. > GB > ----- Original Message ----- From: "drmayf" > To: > Cc: "Keith Turk" ; "LSR" > Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 4:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts > > >> Great! I wonder why information like this is not up front? The salt >> record is 145. I wonder if they can get it to run that fast at that >> density altitude? The oxygen content for the flash steam boilers is >> a lot less than desireable for that kind of system. Curious, will >> they need to run the car on the short course to show that it can >> qualify for the long course to run? I suspect it is a slow speed >> gatherer like a turbojet engine. That might eliminate the short >> courses. >> >> mayf >> speedtimer at beyondbb.com wrote: >> >>> The steam car is a FIA record attempt. The Rice Bros. (Chronologic) >>> are timing it along with a FIA steward on site to witness the >>> vehicle and turn around times. It is not a function of SCTA. As I >>> was told they still plan on Speed Week after this attempt and if all >>> works out they will go after the BNI class record. >>> >>> Glen >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Keith Turk" >>> To: ; "LSR" >>> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 1:01 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Brit Steam Car Efforts >>> >>> >>>> Donald Wales is a friend of mine and I'll ask him tomorrow... but I >>>> believe it's a FIA attempt. >>>> >>>> K >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >>>> >>>> Land-speed mailing list >>>> >>>> You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com >>>> >>>> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From saltfever at comcast.net Tue Jul 21 12:16:21 2009 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Tue, 21 Jul 2009 11:16:21 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Steam Car Message-ID: <000001ca0a2f$59d914e0$0d8b3ea0$@net> Since steam produces 100% full torque at 0 RPM, why do you suspect . . . ? From: drmayf ". . . I suspect it is a slow speed gatherer like a turbojet engine. That might eliminate the short courses." From advo at comcast.net Wed Jul 22 14:02:48 2009 From: advo at comcast.net (Greg Meyers) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 15:02:48 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question Message-ID: I9ve got a lot of induction tract between my carb (draw-thru/blower) and the engine. Anybody ever use a cold start valve to help light things off or to temporarily richen the mix? How well do these valves work with 8 psi? Thanks From neil at dbelltech.com Wed Jul 22 17:00:52 2009 From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com) Date: Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:00:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <09B9BCA013AD4FF3B7BD84194F2D826F@DBTech> Greg; The old Porsche 911 that used the Bosch injection system used a cold- start injector into the plastic plenum. It was not uncommon for the thing to backfire and blow up the plastic plenum-- mine did. ;( Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Greg Meyers Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:03 PM To: 'land Speed List' Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question I9ve got a lot of induction tract between my carb (draw-thru/blower) and the engine. Anybody ever use a cold start valve to help light things off or to temporarily richen the mix? How well do these valves work with 8 psi? Thanks _______________________________________________ From Rick at RBMotorsports.com Thu Jul 23 14:01:01 2009 From: Rick at RBMotorsports.com (Rick Byrnes) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:01:01 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Hotel rooms for Speed Week Message-ID: <000801ca0bd0$4e653880$6401a8c0@Rick> By the beginning of next week I will have up to 6 hotel rooms available for Speed Week. I'm not going, but the young fellow that I helped build the Ginetta has a surplus. He is out of the country right now but asked me to start trying to find racers that need them. The rooms are at Peppermill and Montego Bay. Some are single king size beds and are a little more pricy. He will not make money on this, and will handle the name changes with the hotel staff as they require. He will need a check for the deposit of course. SO, those interested please write, and I will compile a list for him. No, I can't use one. Any money I have goes into the liner. Rick From saltfever at comcast.net Thu Jul 23 16:57:44 2009 From: saltfever at comcast.net (Kirkwood) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 15:57:44 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question Message-ID: <001801ca0be8$fdae0980$f90a1c80$@net> My "cold start" comes in a can from the hardware store. Ether! :-) From: Greg Meyers . . . Anybody ever use a cold start valve to help light things off or to temporarily richen the mix? How well do these valves work with 8 psi? Thanks From saltrat at pahrump.com Thu Jul 23 17:32:58 2009 From: saltrat at pahrump.com (Skip Higginbotham) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 16:32:58 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20090723233312.23938187682@autox.team.net> Greg, I use a primer system not unlike that used on P-51 airplanes.....I use an electric pump that pumps around the mechanical FI pump on the liner. It takes fuel from the inlet side of the pump and pumps it into the outlet side of the pump. It thereby fills the system and provides fuel to start the engine. Works fine. (It won't sneeze if the throttle remains closed........) I have a reverse flow check valve and a normally "off" solenoid valve wired into the electric pump circuit so that fuel can't be pumped back into the pump inlet after the engine lights. Questions? Good luck, Skip At 01:02 PM 7/22/2009, Greg Meyers wrote: >I9ve got a lot of induction tract between my carb (draw-thru/blower) and the >engine. Anybody ever use a cold start valve to help light things off or to >temporarily richen the mix? How well do these valves work with 8 psi? >Thanks >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Land-speed mailing list > >You are subscribed as saltrat at pahrump.com > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From v4gmr at yahoo.com Thu Jul 23 19:17:29 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] Cold start valve question Message-ID: <897141.43750.qm@web51010.mail.re2.yahoo.com> On the Plymouth I had an electric pump and two nozzles (one per port) that I turned on before starting and ran for a few seconds after starting. Some cheap pulse pump, not a big Holley or something. From: Greg Meyers . . . Anybody ever use a cold start valve to help light things off or to temporarily richen the mix? How well do these valves work with 8 psi? From adin at frontier.net Fri Jul 24 19:41:20 2009 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2009 19:41:20 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: [DeTomaso] 5 & 6 point harnesses Message-ID: View after dinner . . . .. > For those of you who use five or six point harnesses, check out this > under-reported issue that's been making > the rounds. I think about this just about every time I snap on the > sub-belt. > > Warning: Apologizing in advance for the graphic content... > > http://bit.ly/iXkMh > > > _______________________________________________ > > Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA > > Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/ > > DeTomaso mailing list > DeTomaso at list.realbig.com > http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso From jpszalay01 at insightbb.com Sat Jul 25 06:07:21 2009 From: jpszalay01 at insightbb.com (John Szalay) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 08:07:21 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: [DeTomaso] 5 & 6 point harnesses References: Message-ID: Yea We had the same problem when we were putting on our parachute harnesses, NOT to that extreme, but the one time you forget to position everything and tighten the straps, step out of the plane at 180 kts, and that chute opens, you never forget again. -------------------------------------------------- From: "David in Durango" Sent: Friday, July 24, 2009 9:41 PM To: "LandSpeed list" Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: [DeTomaso] 5 & 6 point harnesses > View after dinner . . . .. > >> For those of you who use five or six point harnesses, check out this >> under-reported issue that's been making >> the rounds. I think about this just about every time I snap on the >> sub-belt. >> >> Warning: Apologizing in advance for the graphic content... >> >> http://bit.ly/iXkMh _______________________________________________ From drmayf at mayfco.com Sat Jul 25 08:30:14 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 07:30:14 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment Message-ID: <4A6B16F6.6040701@mayfco.com> Folks, I am trying to help an old guy get his truck running. He blew up the oem motor and obtained a replacement. But a lot of time elapsed between old and new. The man who removed the motor left, a newer guy got it part way back in and now a different mechanic is tring to get it going. It runs very very badly. I am helping by remote control, lol. We have eliminated the roller cammed HO version of a small block ford as being the culprit. But we are having difficulty assuring that the distributor is in the way it is supposed to be. If any of you have a 1991 Ford F150 with a 5.0L engine and can send me a photo of the distributor as installed I would appreciate it very much. A couple (more?) cold ones could be made available in my pit... Photo is needed asap... as in now, lol... But don' send me one of anything except a '91 please... Send to drmayf at mayfco.com I have searched google images, none of my ford books show anything, and not even one on ebay with the hood up... help! mayf From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Sat Jul 25 10:44:02 2009 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:44:02 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment In-Reply-To: <4A6B16F6.6040701@mayfco.com> References: <4A6B16F6.6040701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A6B3652.401@wildblue.net> Mayf, As you know, a modern motor is a system. Are all of the parts being used the ones _ required_ by the system? It's probably a TFI ignition, and setting the initial timing is a fire drill, 8-9 step procedure. Bryan drmayf wrote: > Folks, I am trying to help an old guy get his truck running. He blew > up the oem motor and obtained a replacement. But a lot of time elapsed > between old and new. The man who removed the motor left, a newer guy > got it part way back in and now a different mechanic is tring to get > it going. It runs very very badly. I am helping by remote control, > lol. We have eliminated the roller cammed HO version of a small block > ford as being the culprit. But we are having difficulty assuring that > the distributor is in the way it is supposed to be. If any of you have > a 1991 Ford F150 with a 5.0L engine and can send me a photo of the > distributor as installed I would appreciate it very much. A couple > (more?) cold ones could be made available in my pit... Photo is needed > asap... as in now, lol... But don' send me one of anything except a > '91 please... > > Send to drmayf at mayfco.com > > I have searched google images, none of my ford books show anything, > and not even one on ebay with the hood up... > > help! > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as b.a.savage at wildblue.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From neil at dbelltech.com Sat Jul 25 10:45:50 2009 From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 09:45:50 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment In-Reply-To: <4A6B16F6.6040701@mayfco.com> References: <4A6B16F6.6040701@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <9148A64A1D854BD9AB10CC7BB694F9BF@DBTech> Mayf; I had a Chevy 6-cyl that I rebuilt about drive me crazy. It wouldn't idle at all and only ran if held above 2000RPM. It turned out the distributor cap and rotor were not aligned properly; the spark occurred when the rotor was not pointing at the plug contact on the distributor cap. At higher RPM the advance would pull it into alignment and it ran fine. Check to see if this is not the same problem with that Ford. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 7:30 AM To: LSR Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment Folks, I am trying to help an old guy get his truck running. He blew up the oem motor and obtained a replacement. But a lot of time elapsed between old and new. The man who removed the motor left, a newer guy got it part way back in and now a different mechanic is tring to get it going. It runs very very badly. I am helping by remote control, lol. We have eliminated the roller cammed HO version of a small block ford as being the culprit. But we are having difficulty assuring that the distributor is in the way it is supposed to be. If any of you have a 1991 Ford F150 with a 5.0L engine and can send me a photo of the distributor as installed I would appreciate it very much. A couple (more?) cold ones could be made available in my pit... Photo is needed asap... as in now, lol... But don' send me one of anything except a '91 please... Send to drmayf at mayfco.com I have searched google images, none of my ford books show anything, and not even one on ebay with the hood up... help! mayf From joyseydevil at comcast.net Sat Jul 25 11:21:05 2009 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 13:21:05 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Fw: [DeTomaso] 5 & 6 point harnesses Message-ID: That's why I made the streamliner seat with the drivers knees raised so foreward Gs are against the drivers butt and not the crotch straps . > View after dinner . . . .. > > >> For those of you who use five or six point harnesses, check out this >> under-reported issue that's been making >> the rounds. I think about this just about every time I snap on the >> sub-belt. >> >> Warning: Apologizing in advance for the graphic content... >> >> http://bit.ly/iXkMh _______________________________________________ >> >> Detomaso Forum Managed by POCA >> >> Archive Search Engine Now Available at http://www.realbig.com/detomaso/ >> >> DeTomaso mailing list >> DeTomaso at list.realbig.com >> http://list.realbig.com/mailman/listinfo/detomaso > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as joyseydevil at comcast.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From desotoman at dslextreme.com Sat Jul 25 12:21:46 2009 From: desotoman at dslextreme.com (desotoman @dslextreme.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:21:46 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Marlo Treit's Liner Message-ID: <51a5f2e00907251121q3ab1703bn9e123e7bcfab4ff4@mail.gmail.com> Here is an interview between Freud and Marlo's car builder Hume. This is the first part of a three part video, But as of yet this is the first one released. Enjoy, Tom G. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sz1xfuBHPs From v4gmr at yahoo.com Sat Jul 25 12:34:45 2009 From: v4gmr at yahoo.com (Rich Fox) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 11:34:45 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment Message-ID: <427003.59397.qm@web51012.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I believe that 351 Fords had a different firing order than 302 Fords and that in later years (Roller cams) the 302 (5.0) changed to the 351 firing order. You might want to check that. --- On Sat, 7/25/09, drmayf wrote: From: drmayf Subject: [Land-speed] OFF Topic: 1991 Ford F150 .0L Engine Compartment To: "LSR" Date: Saturday, July 25, 2009, 7:30 AM Folks, I am trying to help an old guy get his truck running. He blew up the oem motor and obtained a replacement. But a lot of time elapsed between old and new. The man who removed the motor left, a newer guy got it part way back in and now a different mechanic is tring to get it going. It runs very very badly. I am helping by remote control, lol. We have eliminated the roller cammed HO version of a small block ford as being the culprit. But we are having difficulty assuring that the distributor is in the way it is supposed to be. If any of you have a 1991 Ford F150 with a 5.0L engine and can send me a photo of the distributor as installed I would appreciate it very much. A couple (more?) cold ones could be made available in my pit... Photo is needed asap... as in now, lol... But don' send me one of anything except a '91 please... Send to drmayf at mayfco.com I have searched google images, none of my ford books show anything, and not even one on ebay with the hood up... help! mayf Land-speed mailing list You are subscribed as v4gmr at yahoo.com http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From drmayf at mayfco.com Sat Jul 25 17:54:58 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 16:54:58 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: 1991 F150 troubles... Message-ID: <4A6B9B52.5030608@mayfco.com> Ok, got to spend the entire day messing with the truck. Had some help form another ford guy. We found buried under neath everything an unconnected PCV vacuum line. We got it running good enough to actually time it to the base 10 degrees and tightened teh dizzy hold down. Plug wires are driving us crazy. Turns out that we found the O2 sensor out in the back yard, lol. Not connected either. The iron exhaust manifolds are not oem to the truck (they were literally broken in half) and so the down pipes do not fit. Found one that did fit but no O2 sensor bung. That will be welded in tomorrow. The motor seems to run fairly decently (well, compared to the last time I was looking at it) except for below 2000 rpm. It acts like there is still a small vacuum leak or something not connected correctly. And of course the emissions diagram on the hood is gone, lol. So searching for some diagrams on how all the small 1/8 inch plastic lines are routed and to where they go. Yet, great progress was made today. New plug wires tomorrow, new coil, some correct hook ups of the small vac lines and maybe, just maybe.... I did see something that was really weird though. There is a large hose going over to the power brake unit. That hose was about an 1/8 inch from the coil wire rubber cap. As the truck was running spark was jumping from the coil boot to the rubber hose! So It sounds like the coil wire for sure needs replacing! Several of the plug wire boots at the plugs are broken off, most of the plugs are/were fouled. I suspect that is from the O2 either not being installed or that when it was plugged in the brain box thinking that it was really lean and cranked up the pulse widths to richen it up. But the bottom line is that progress was made and more will be made tomorrow when we figure out where all those small vacuum lines go... I want to thank each and evry one of you for the help you sent in the form of suggestions for things to check and for photos (Terry, thank your wife for me please), Because it all helped. For those that will be at speed week, come find my pit and the cold ones are on me. Again. many thanks from a tired, pooped out, old fart. mayf From neil at dbelltech.com Sat Jul 25 18:10:48 2009 From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com) Date: Sat, 25 Jul 2009 17:10:48 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: 1991 F150 troubles... In-Reply-To: <4A6B9B52.5030608@mayfco.com> References: <4A6B9B52.5030608@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <96D25EB3518A49198F861FF5F4AD02AB@DBTech> Mayf; It isn't as much fun when it isn't a race car-- is it? Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Saturday, July 25, 2009 4:55 PM To: tweecer at yahoogroups.com; LSR Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: 1991 F150 troubles... Ok, got to spend the entire day messing with the truck. Had some help form another ford guy. We found buried under neath everything an unconnected PCV vacuum line. We got it running good enough to actually time it to the base 10 degrees and tightened teh dizzy hold down. Plug wires are driving us crazy. Turns out that we found the O2 sensor out in the back yard, lol. Not connected either. The iron exhaust manifolds are not oem to the truck (they were literally broken in half) and so the down pipes do not fit. Found one that did fit but no O2 sensor bung. That will be welded in tomorrow. The motor seems to run fairly decently (well, compared to the last time I was looking at it) except for below 2000 rpm. It acts like there is still a small vacuum leak or something not connected correctly. And of course the emissions diagram on the hood is gone, lol. So searching for some diagrams on how all the small 1/8 inch plastic lines are routed and to where they go. Yet, great progress was made today. New plug wires tomorrow, new coil, some correct hook ups of the small vac lines and maybe, just maybe.... I did see something that was really weird though. There is a large hose going over to the power brake unit. That hose was about an 1/8 inch from the coil wire rubber cap. As the truck was running spark was jumping from the coil boot to the rubber hose! So It sounds like the coil wire for sure needs replacing! Several of the plug wire boots at the plugs are broken off, most of the plugs are/were fouled. I suspect that is from the O2 either not being installed or that when it was plugged in the brain box thinking that it was really lean and cranked up the pulse widths to richen it up. But the bottom line is that progress was made and more will be made tomorrow when we figure out where all those small vacuum lines go... I want to thank each and evry one of you for the help you sent in the form of suggestions for things to check and for photos (Terry, thank your wife for me please), Because it all helped. For those that will be at speed week, come find my pit and the cold ones are on me. Again. many thanks from a tired, pooped out, old fart. mayf From drmayf at mayfco.com Mon Jul 27 07:35:45 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 06:35:45 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Toopic: 1991 F150 Truck Issues Message-ID: <4A6DAD31.2040000@mayfco.com> I spent 17 hours this week end with another guy and we made some very good progress on the truck. Itseemed that everything we touched had to be redone in some form or fashion. After being tolf that the exhaust manifolds, the cast iron ones, were the same as what came off the truck to begin with, when trying to fit up the down pipes, fout out otherwise. Finally located a y pipe that fir the motor with odd manifolds, but no O2 bung. Some connectors not connected. Late yesterday found a connector a the far back end of the manifold not connected. Suspect it is for a knock sensor but this block has no knock sensor threaded hole location. The engine runs great above 2000 rpm. Runs like crap at 1000 rpm. I have run out of ideas and gumption in working on this thing. If there are any other ideas about why it would not run at 1000 but runs like a scalded dog at 2000 lemme know and I will pass it along.. See ya'll on the salt... mayf From neil at dbelltech.com Mon Jul 27 12:13:52 2009 From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 11:13:52 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Toopic: 1991 F150 Truck Issues In-Reply-To: <4A6DAD31.2040000@mayfco.com> References: <4A6DAD31.2040000@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <3FFD1B5076844778B80A2B14337F23A2@DBTech> Mayf; Check the distributor rotor / cap phasing. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Monday, July 27, 2009 6:36 AM To: tweecer at yahoogroups.com; LSR Subject: [Land-speed] Off Toopic: 1991 F150 Truck Issues I spent 17 hours this week end with another guy and we made some very good progress on the truck. Itseemed that everything we touched had to be redone in some form or fashion. After being tolf that the exhaust manifolds, the cast iron ones, were the same as what came off the truck to begin with, when trying to fit up the down pipes, fout out otherwise. Finally located a y pipe that fir the motor with odd manifolds, but no O2 bung. Some connectors not connected. Late yesterday found a connector a the far back end of the manifold not connected. Suspect it is for a knock sensor but this block has no knock sensor threaded hole location. The engine runs great above 2000 rpm. Runs like crap at 1000 rpm. I have run out of ideas and gumption in working on this thing. If there are any other ideas about why it would not run at 1000 but runs like a scalded dog at 2000 lemme know and I will pass it along.. See ya'll on the salt... mayf _______________________________________________ From BWANA343 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 17:07:26 2009 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:07:26 EDT Subject: [Land-speed] Sunday, Sunday, in Maine Message-ID: Thought I'd share this local radio ad with everybody. We're just going along with the locals , whatever they want to do to publicize. I got a kick out of it, thought it kinda retro, like those old Sunday, Sunday, Drag strip ads . (mailto:land-speed at autox.team.net) Bob Wanner ...way over his head... **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of LORINGTIMINGASSOCIATIONJULY2009.mp3] From BWANA343 at aol.com Mon Jul 27 17:10:11 2009 From: BWANA343 at aol.com (BWANA343 at aol.com) Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2009 19:10:11 EDT Subject: [Land-speed] Fwd: Sunday, Sunday, in Maine Message-ID: Sorry, forgot about the attachment thing on this list, write me off line for the Thang..Sorry... Bob W ____________________________________ From: BWANA343 at aol.com To: land-speed at autox.team.net Sent: 7/27/2009 7:07:49 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time Subj: [Land-speed] Sunday, Sunday, in Maine Thought I'd share this local radio ad with everybody. We're just going along with the locals , whatever they want to do to publicize. I got a kick out of it, thought it kinda retro, like those old Sunday, Sunday, Drag strip ads . (mailto:land-speed at autox.team.net) Bob Wanner ...way over his head... **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/octet-stream which had a name of LORINGTIMINGASSOCIATIONJULY2009.mp3] **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823322x1201398723/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115) From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Tue Jul 28 10:52:01 2009 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 09:52:01 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Toopic: 1991 F150 Truck Issues In-Reply-To: <4A6DAD31.2040000@mayfco.com> References: <4A6DAD31.2040000@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A6F2CB1.1080704@wildblue.net> You can buy Ford crate engines with a lot of cam. What are the specs on that cam? Bryan drmayf wrote: > I spent 17 hours this week end with another guy and we made some very > good progress on the truck. Itseemed that everything we touched had > to be redone in some form or fashion. After being tolf that the > exhaust manifolds, the cast iron ones, were the same as what came off > the truck to begin with, when trying to fit up the down pipes, fout > out otherwise. Finally located a y pipe that fir the motor with odd > manifolds, but no O2 bung. Some connectors not connected. Late > yesterday found a connector a the far back end of the manifold not > connected. Suspect it is for a knock sensor but this block has no > knock sensor threaded hole location. The engine runs great above 2000 > rpm. Runs like crap at 1000 rpm. I have run out of ideas and gumption > in working on this thing. If there are any other ideas about why it > would not run at 1000 but runs like a scalded dog at 2000 lemme know > and I will pass it along.. > > See ya'll on the salt... > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as b.a.savage at wildblue.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From gary_ellen at msn.com Tue Jul 28 16:22:44 2009 From: gary_ellen at msn.com (Ellen Wilkinson) Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 16:22:44 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Detour Message-ID: One more detour to be aware of. Road crews will close State Route 201 at its western end near Kennecott Utah Copper beginning Wednesday night for a widening project, the Utah Department of Transportation has announced. The highway will close between State Route 202 and Interstate 80. Motorists looking for a link from I-80 to SR201 can bypass the closed segment by taking SR202, which meets the freeway near Great Salt Lake State Park. The closure begins at 11:30 p.m. Wednesday and continues for 60 days. Gary W From advo at comcast.net Thu Jul 30 10:32:55 2009 From: advo at comcast.net (Greg Meyers) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:32:55 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Cowl induction design In-Reply-To: <51a5f2e00907251121q3ab1703bn9e123e7bcfab4ff4@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Getting ready to put the icing on the cake before next week..... Can someone explain to me what basic parameters to follow in setting up a cowl induction scoop......how much room around the air cleaner.....how close to the windshield......Most of the carb is above the plane of the hood. Optimally, should the carb be isolated from the engine compartment, or is there some advantage to keeping the space around the carb open to the compartment. Greg From dlodom at charter.net Thu Jul 30 12:10:47 2009 From: dlodom at charter.net (Doug Odom) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 11:10:47 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Cowl induction design References: Message-ID: <002901ca1141$1125b230$6401a8c0@YOUR588B4A13EA> Greg, Try and keep the hot air in the engine compartment from getting into the cool air ( cool being a relative term at Bonneville ) coming into the scoop. What kind of car are we dealing with? Big Ditch Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Meyers" To: "'land Speed List'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:32 AM Subject: [Land-speed] Cowl induction design > Getting ready to put the icing on the cake before next week..... > Can someone explain to me what basic parameters to follow in setting up a > cowl induction scoop......how much room around the air cleaner.....how > close > to the windshield......Most of the carb is above the plane of the hood. > Optimally, should the carb be isolated from the engine compartment, or is > there some advantage to keeping the space around the carb open to the > compartment. > > Greg From drmayf at mayfco.com Thu Jul 30 17:44:57 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:44:57 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices Message-ID: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com> Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti theft and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any experience out there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? Web links? comments? mayf From neil at dbelltech.com Thu Jul 30 17:56:56 2009 From: neil at dbelltech.com (neil at dbelltech.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 16:56:56 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech> Mayf; An ill- tempered Rottweiler might work. Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:45 PM To: LSR Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti theft and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any experience out there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? Web links? comments? mayf From adin at frontier.net Thu Jul 30 18:27:29 2009 From: adin at frontier.net (David in Durango) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:27:29 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com> <93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech> Message-ID: <39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> Hmmmm, I've always heard that a nervous woman w/ a sawed of double barrel 12 ga works . . . YMMV. ----- Original Message ----- From: To: ; "'LSR'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:56 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices > Mayf; > > An ill- tempered Rottweiler might work. > > Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net > [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:45 PM > To: LSR > Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft > Devices > > Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti theft > and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any experience out > there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? > Web links? > > comments? > > mayf > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as adin at frontier.net > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From joetimney at dol.net Thu Jul 30 19:16:00 2009 From: joetimney at dol.net (joetimney) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:16:00 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices Message-ID: <4a7245d0.148.41@dol.net> > I have used car alarms with a car battery. Wired a extra truck/trailer light plug that sounds the alarm when unpluged. The last alarm i used had a pager with it so you can come out of the motel room with a gun blazing!!! LOL Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering > about anti theft and alarm systems for a toy box car > hauler trailer. Any experience out there for systems > like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? > Web links? > comments? > > mayf > _______________________________________________ From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Thu Jul 30 19:21:21 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 19:21:21 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com><93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech> <39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> Message-ID: <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> GOOGLE works. GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David in Durango" To: ; ; "'LSR'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices > Hmmmm, I've always heard that a nervous woman w/ a sawed of double barrel > 12 ga works . . . > YMMV. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; "'LSR'" > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft > Devices > > >> Mayf; >> >> An ill- tempered Rottweiler might work. >> >> Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:45 PM >> To: LSR >> Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft >> Devices >> >> Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti theft >> and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any experience out >> there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? >> Web links? >> >> comments? >> >> mayf >> _______________________________________________ >> Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html >> >> Land-speed mailing list >> >> You are subscribed as adin at frontier.net >> >> http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed > _______________________________________________ > Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > > Land-speed mailing list > > You are subscribed as speedtimer at beyondbb.com > > http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com Fri Jul 31 06:14:58 2009 From: Mike.Meierle at alcatel-lucent.com (MEIERLE Mike) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:14:58 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com><93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech><39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> Message-ID: <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C43089F@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> A little thread jacking here but I was thinking about the Bike thefts at Maxton a while back. There is a alarm made for Golf Bags that enunciates when it bag is lifted or moved. Than would be a good first line of defense in the pits, just after the hungry Rottweiler of course. Mike M. -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of speedtimer at beyondbb.com Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:21 PM To: David in Durango; neil at dbelltech.com; drmayf at mayfco.com; 'LSR' Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices GOOGLE works. GB ----- Original Message ----- From: "David in Durango" To: ; ; "'LSR'" Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices > Hmmmm, I've always heard that a nervous woman w/ a sawed of double > barrel > 12 ga works . . . > YMMV. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: ; "'LSR'" > Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti > Theft Devices > > >> Mayf; >> >> An ill- tempered Rottweiler might work. >> >> Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >> [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf >> Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:45 PM >> To: LSR >> Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft >> Devices >> >> Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti >> theft and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any >> experience out there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? Best? Worst? Prices? >> Web links? >> >> comments? >> >> mayf >> _____________________________ From drmayf at mayfco.com Fri Jul 31 08:19:50 2009 From: drmayf at mayfco.com (drmayf) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 07:19:50 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C43089F@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com><93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech><39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C43089F@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> Message-ID: <4A72FD86.4030403@mayfco.com> MIke, I found a system that senses motionof the trailer and sets of a screeching wail and locks the trailer brakes. 585 bucks and if you get the one that can page you as well then that's a mere 785 bucks... What I was hoping for was some info from actual users of trailer alarms to get their inputs on which ones seem to work well and those that do not. mayf MEIERLE Mike wrote: >A little thread jacking here but I was thinking about the Bike thefts at >Maxton a while back. There is a alarm made for Golf Bags that enunciates >when it bag is lifted or moved. Than would be a good first line of >defense in the pits, just after the hungry Rottweiler of course. > >Mike M. > >-----Original Message----- >From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of >speedtimer at beyondbb.com >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:21 PM >To: David in Durango; neil at dbelltech.com; drmayf at mayfco.com; 'LSR' >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti >Theft Devices > >GOOGLE works. >GB >----- Original Message ----- >From: "David in Durango" >To: ; ; "'LSR'" > >Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 6:27 PM >Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti >Theft Devices > > > > >>Hmmmm, I've always heard that a nervous woman w/ a sawed of double >>barrel >>12 ga works . . . >>YMMV. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: >>To: ; "'LSR'" >>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 5:56 PM >>Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti >>Theft Devices >> >> >> >> >>>Mayf; >>> >>>An ill- tempered Rottweiler might work. >>> >>>Regards, Neil Tucson, AZ >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net >>>[mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of drmayf >>>Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 4:45 PM >>>To: LSR >>>Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft >>> >>> > > > >>>Devices >>> >>>Just sitting here doodling along and started wondering about anti >>>theft and alarm systems for a toy box car hauler trailer. Any >>>experience out there for systems like this? Good ones? Bad ones? >>> >>> >Best? Worst? Prices? > > >>>Web links? >>> >>>comments? >>> >>>mayf >>>_____________________________ >>> >>> >_______________________________________________ >Support Team.Net http://www.team.net/donate.html > >Land-speed mailing list > >You are subscribed as drmayf at mayfco.com > >http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/land-speed From b.a.savage at wildblue.net Fri Jul 31 10:36:23 2009 From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net (Bryan Savage) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:36:23 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <4A72FD86.4030403@mayfco.com> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com><93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech><39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C43089F@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> <4A72FD86.4030403@mayfco.com> Message-ID: <4A731D87.2070007@wildblue.net> Can anyone find out what NASCAR or WOO folks use? Bryan From boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com Fri Jul 31 11:10:13 2009 From: boogiewoogie12 at hotmail.com (Doug .............) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:10:13 +0000 Subject: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices In-Reply-To: <4A731D87.2070007@wildblue.net> References: <4A723079.8060404@mayfco.com><93CFFC3ED4C44602AA3379E636DFFF55@DBTech><39E5FB0361C648B8A81C936E865A2673@ZTxp> <897CB4529AD143CC9CADC1AB369F7361@GlenPC> <7C6E77E36A1EAD4BAD7F02E98294BDB20C43089F@USDALSMBS01.ad3.ad.alcatel.com> <4A72FD86.4030403@mayfco.com> <4A731D87.2070007@wildblue.net> Message-ID: that's easy Bryan,... they use corporate supplied hit men ... -armed with the feared Nancy PeeLosi "assault rifles" and starved pit bulls, 24/7 safe as all get out. LOL c heers, 'Dirt Track Doug ' -105 + miles south of the world famous 'Syracuse Mile ' -241.4 miles north of the Williams Grove Speedway pit gate -2247 or so miles due east of the marvelous Bonneville Salt Flats but never more than a few feet from a cold one ============================================================================= ====== > Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 09:36:23 -0700 > From: b.a.savage at wildblue.net > To: drmayf at mayfco.com > CC: land-speed at autox.team.net > Subject: Re: [Land-speed] Off Topic: Trailer Alarm Systems and Anti Theft Devices Can anyone find out what NASCAR or WOO folks use? - Bryan _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live Hotmail.: Search, add, and share the webs latest sports videos. Check it out. http://www.windowslive.com/Online/Hotmail/Campaign/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL _QA_HM_sports_videos_072009&cat=sports From joyseydevil at comcast.net Fri Jul 31 13:25:22 2009 From: joyseydevil at comcast.net (John Burk) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 15:25:22 -0400 Subject: [Land-speed] British steam car Message-ID: <8B9C5DF358694D5B96EC9E2F5B9A9DC3@john> If the British team is not using propane to heat their boiler tubes they might want to consider that design . A normal hot air balloon propane burner puts out at least 8,000,000 BTUs . If the flame preheated a thin wall inconel steam coil and the throttle pedal controlled the water flow into the boiler coil and the system was 25% efficient that's 780+ hp with little lag time . From speedtimer at beyondbb.com Fri Jul 31 17:55:09 2009 From: speedtimer at beyondbb.com (speedtimer at beyondbb.com) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 17:55:09 -0600 Subject: [Land-speed] KOA Wendover Message-ID: <420B03D6054447DF8A2335B758579940@GlenPC> A friend has two spots at the KOA for speed week and can't make it. If interested call him at 303-726-4395 and he will help you with the change over. From 23.weldon at comcast.net Fri Jul 31 19:18:03 2009 From: 23.weldon at comcast.net (23weldon) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:18:03 -0700 Subject: [Land-speed] Wendover hotel room shortage References: <8B9C5DF358694D5B96EC9E2F5B9A9DC3@john> Message-ID: <1F719327C0B64A87A925E6EB0FDD5C83@edc2750afa5a84> It seems like more of us are destined to use the desert for camping during Speedweek, especially those who can forego rational female company during that period. I fear the result of this will be a substantially increased demand placed upon the shower facilities at the Sinclair truck stop at exit 4. So perhaps we can look to tchnology to provide an answer. The return of the latest Space Shuttle brought a crew member who had conducted an interesting experiment. This fellow wore some special cloths, specifically underwear developed in Japan, that he never took off for his entire 28 day stay. The idea is about some high tech silver nanotechnology that prevents odor build up and, I suppose, other features of some importance to the application. I can see this stuff going mainstream into the US recreational clothing market if it is not already there. I can also see where 8 days at Speedweek would be a serious test of the technology. But think about it. It may be cheaper to buy trick underwear for your crew than bidding up the price for hotel rooms. Only half serious this time.......Ed Weldon From jimwebb at nutsracing.com Fri Jul 31 19:34:37 2009 From: jimwebb at nutsracing.com (Jim Webb) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 20:34:37 -0500 Subject: [Land-speed] Wendover hotel room shortage In-Reply-To: <1F719327C0B64A87A925E6EB0FDD5C83@edc2750afa5a84> References: <8B9C5DF358694D5B96EC9E2F5B9A9DC3@john> <1F719327C0B64A87A925E6EB0FDD5C83@edc2750afa5a84> Message-ID: "rational female company" You crack me up, Ed! Jim Webb Choc Full o' Nuts A/PP B/PP D/PP ?/FL -----Original Message----- From: land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net [mailto:land-speed-bounces at autox.team.net] On Behalf Of 23weldon Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 8:18 PM To: LandSpeed List Subject: [Land-speed] Wendover hotel room shortage It seems like more of us are destined to use the desert for camping during Speedweek, especially those who can forego rational female company during that period. I fear the result of this will be a substantially increased demand placed upon the shower facilities at the Sinclair truck stop at exit 4. So perhaps we can look to tchnology to provide an answer. The return of the latest Space Shuttle brought a crew member who had conducted an interesting experiment. This fellow wore some special cloths, specifically underwear developed in Japan, that he never took off for his entire 28 day stay. The idea is about some high tech silver nanotechnology that prevents odor build up and, I suppose, other features of some importance to the application. I can see this stuff going mainstream into the US recreational clothing market if it is not already there. I can also see where 8 days at Speedweek would be a serious test of the technology. But think about it. It may be cheaper to buy trick underwear for your crew than bidding up the price for hotel rooms. Only half serious this time.......Ed Weldon From mjb at autox.team.net Fri Jul 31 22:04:42 2009 From: mjb at autox.team.net (Mark J. Bradakis) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2009 22:04:42 -0600 (MDT) Subject: [Land-speed] AOL stuff Message-ID: <20090801040442.4BFED187643@autox.team.net> I think I have all the AOL folks reinstated on the list. What fun. I do sometimes wonder why I bother, sigh. I did get a chuckle out of one message, not related to the AOL blockage, the body of the mail was: A while back Mark posted a note which included a link to PayPal to make it easy for donations. I also checked his site for the same info but no joy. Anybody have the link? Thanks Well, *everybody* has the link - it is included as the first line in the trailer of each and every message sent to the list. Some people! I got to get out to the salt someday - I live in Salt Lake and have yet to attend Speed Week. That's a mortal sin, right? mjb.