<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">You are absolutely correct josef. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is my trick. Remove the left front wheel and find the weld-nut for that screw.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Carefully grind off the end of the screw to the level of the weld-nut then, very carefully, starting with a 1/16" dbit, drill out the 10/32 screw without damaging the weld-nut too much.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">This will release the top of the relay. Run a 10/32 tap through the weld-nut then take out the 2 lower screws and tackle the 8 terminal screws.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Back in the day the relays weren't that expensive and we used to just replace them when they were thought to be faulty however, I gathered up the removed ones in a bin.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Last week, after the problems that I had with my second cheapo repo, I pulled 5 of them out of the bin and checked them.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The biggest problem was getting the slot cheese head terminal screws out without breaking them but a little carefully applied heat solved that.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Once I removed the covers and cleaned up the 8 terminals I was amazed that every one, after a couple of very minor adjustments, could be made to work perfectly.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Not one of the coils, the component that I had always suspected was the most likely point of failure, had any sort of problem.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I now have 5 fully functional turn signal relays that I'm in the process of refinishing.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Getting that top screw in will still be difficult but it can be done before refitting the cover.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">M</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 22, 2026 at 7:48 AM <a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target="_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a> <<a href="mailto:josef-eckert@t-online.de" target="_blank">josef-eckert@t-online.de</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div></div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span lang="en"><span>Since it's almost the same topic, but what bothers me much more is replacing the relays on the 6-cylinder Austin-Healeys</span></span><span lang="en"><span>.</span> </span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span lang="en"><span>The top screw that holds the relay is inaccessible with a screwdriver when the cold air duct is installed.</span> <span>The same goes for </span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span lang="en"><span>the upper cable clamps.</span> <span>Is there a trick to removing the faulty turn signal relay and installing a replacement without removing </span></span></div>
<div dir="ltr"><span lang="en"><span>the cold air duct and potentially damagi</span></span><span lang="en"><span>ng or crumpling it?</span> </span></div>
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<p>Betreff: Re: [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.</p>
<p>Datum: 2026-03-22T12:33:37+0100</p>
<p>Von: "simon.lachlan--- via Healeys" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></p>
<p>An: "Michael Salter" <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>></p>
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<div style="font-family:Aptos,Aptos_EmbeddedFont,Aptos_MSFontService,Calibri,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Regarding these contraptions, there is a third way. I've mentioned it to M before....one can gut the old relay and rebuild its internals with new, modern, relays. I've done two or three. The first because my original had gone into terminal decay and the others because I'd bought clapped out originals at a boot fair. Anyhow, the first one's been in the car for some years now and works fine. The others are in one of the "boxes of useful things I may need one day". I've done the same to overdrive relays. By the way, I don't claim to be the first person to have done this!!</div>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="font-size:11pt;color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><strong>From:</strong> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> 20 March 2026 16:23<br><strong>To:</strong> <a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> [Healeys] Replacement Turn Signal Relay.</span>
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<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">All Big Healeys prior to the later Phase 2 BJ8 use a Lusas 33117 relay for the turn signals. This relay connects the appropriate lamps to the turn signal flasher unit, overriding the brake light switch on turns.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">These Lucas relays were a very primitive (by today's standards) but very robust unit and could withstand a short circuit as often happens with the glass lens type 594 turn/side/brake lamps used on these models at least until the fuse blew.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Within these lamps it is very easy to produce a short to ground.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">Over the last few years replacements for these relays have been provided, under the Lucas name and the same 33117 part number, which have been completely redesigned and incorporate 2 modern G2R-1-E relays. </div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">I have purchased 2 of these modern style relays and both have failed because the G2R-1-E relay relays don't seem to be anywhere near as robust as the originals and fail before the 35 amp fuse can protect them. </div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">So, a word of caution, if you are using one of these (improved) cheapo repo turn signal relays, be very careful to avoid short circuits in the turn/brake/side lamps.</div>
<div style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The attached pics are of the original type and the circuit board from the "improved" replacement.</div>
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