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<p>Use a paper gasket smeared with any sealant like Permatex. Not
really critical.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 17-2-2025 om 05:30 schreef Michael
Oritt:suicidal let's discuss the probabilities of developing
prostate cancer (which I've had).</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">For me
I'd rather read about something related to the use of our cars
and I still haven't seen a response to my question about
thermostat gasket sealant.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="color:rgb(51,51,255)">Best--Michael
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Feb 16, 2025 at
9:01 PM James Frey via Healeys <<a
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<div dir="auto"><span style="font-size:14px">The costs
you cite below are inexorably linked to the “What to
Do with our Healeys” question that was also raised.
Over the last several years, I have restored/built 3
cars with most of the work done by a local shop (one
of which was a Bugeye). I needed to have most work
performed by my shop. Although my skills are
moderate and I enjoy turning wrenches, my time
available to do so has lessened in recent years. </span>
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<div><span style="font-size:14px">Given the above
circumstances, I have easily spent 2-3 times
market value on the purchase price, work
performed, parts, etc. I consider myself lucky to
have a trusted local shop, but depending on where
you live (even assuming you are willing to spend
the money), it can be extraordinarily difficult to
get the cars serviced, let alone have significant
restoration work done. I also don’t see the value
of most Healeys going up much, and it might go
down given the (arguably) shrinking
market/demographics for these cars. </span>
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<div><span style="font-size:14px">So given my recent
experience, as much as I might love to own a BJ8
and would consider myself “a trusted steward”,
paying significant dollars (even for a
beautifully restored car) in a declining market
might not be the best idea. As for a car that
“needs work”, I’m starting to feel like I’ve
been there and done that a little too often.
Also, there are fun (more modern) cars out there
for similar dollars that don’t present the same
financial risk and difficulties in selling. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:14px">Lastly, I’m 61 (so
not “young”) and I think those that are younger
than me are an even tougher sell. I have 2
adult sons that have a moderate interest in cars
and the “old cars” they might have an interest
in are probably from 2000-2010. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-size:14px">The market is
undeniably softer than previously, but I
actually think current values are a sellers
market, even in the US. With the potential for
declining demand, it’s hard for me to see an
improving Healey market over the next 10+ years.
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<div>On Feb 16, 2025, at 2:16 PM, Michael
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<div dir="auto">Very good question.
<div dir="auto">All the work that you
describe requires an individual with
significant skill(s). These tasks are
not something that your "run of the
mill" parts changer can undertake. In
our part of the world (Canada) those
"parts changers", without breaking a
sweat can easily pull in 6 figures which
equates to $50/hr. $50/hr paid to the
tradesman will typically be charged out
at an hourly rate of at least $100.</div>
<div dir="auto">In my book a full
restoration takes 1200 hours at least,
usually a lot more to produce concours
standards.</div>
<div dir="auto">So labour ONLY $120K.</div>
<div dir="auto">Parts and materials
usually at least 50% of labour. $60K.</div>
<div dir="auto">Incidentals at least
another $20K</div>
<div dir="auto">It's getting up there 😳😳</div>
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Feb. 16, 2025, 1:40 p.m. warthodson---
via Healeys, <<a
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<div dir="ltr">The list has been
very quiet for a long time.</div>
<div dir="ltr">How about a
discussion about the cost of
restoring a BN1? </div>
<div dir="ltr">The metal work is
About 90% done. The remaining work
includes final fitting all body
panels, preparing for paint &
final painting.</div>
<div dir="ltr">Wiring, plumbing
including rebuilding the brakes,
interior, fitting the windscreen,
convertible top, side curtains
including providing all material
where necessary. </div>
<div dir="ltr">Rebuild the engine
including all the machining. I
have all the necessary components.</div>
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2025 at 10:46:32 AM CST, Mike
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me, or is the list
quiet? I haven't seen
anything for quite a
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