<div>Yes, the chrome process tends to "britilize" the spole material unless they are "heat treated" and allowed to cool slowly over a period of time-also like when welding cast iron. In the '70s I stripped 5 original 48 spoke wheels and had them chrome plated along with all the spokes using the above process (chromer said he did it). I assembled and trued the wheels and to date (KOW) none have broken. They look quite elegant and durable as well, but then again I am not racing my 100. BTW todays stainless spokes supplied from other countries are not compatible-not the same length and thickness as the Dunlop originals. Hank<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: "Michael Oritt" <michael.oritt@gmail.com> <br>To: <m.g.sharp@sympatico.ca> <br>Cc: "Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net> <br>Sent: December 22, 2024 at 1:57 PM PST <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing </div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Like Mike, I have very rarely broken a spoke. I have a 59 BT7 with 48 spoke painted wheels. I am only the second owner, knew the first owner well and have had the car for 50 years. I ran the original wheels until 2008 at which point I replaced all 5, mainly for peace of mind as I was worried about metal fatigue. I only have had them trued once, sometime in the late 70s. In all that time I can only ever remember having three spokes break on me, all on the original set of wheels.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">Cheers, Mirek</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Richard Kahn via Healeys<br><strong>Sent:</strong> December 22, 2024 2:44 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Michael Salter <<a href="mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">michaelsalter@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Hendrix believes they were older chrome spokes. As I have broken spokes often in the past, I have a Harbor Freight tire remover rig. Over the years, I have replaced spokes with stainless so I believe their strength puts excess train on the chrome ones. I think I have now replaced 80% of the chrome ones on that wheel. I don't drive hard or drive during pot hole season. However, going to CHW on interstate 5, I hit many "uneven" construction areas with considerable jolts. Usually, I have only had to replace one spoke ever year or two. Outer spokes are easy and I have never had to replace the inner shorter ones.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I'm intrigued to hear of your broken spoke issue. I haven't experienced even 1 broken spoke for many many years. Do you have any insight as to the cause? It's something that I would very much like to avoid.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun., Dec. 22, 2024, 12:52 p.m. Richard Kahn, <<a href="mailto:tahoehealey@hotmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">tahoehealey@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">Hendrix has done my wheels (and break drums) for 20 years. No shakes! Price is very fair but shipping is the killer. I came home from California Healey Week in San Louis Obispo last summer with 7 broken spokes. $250 for shipping wheel with tires to Hendrix. Allens work, with balance, truing wheels and re shaving tires was about $125 and $125 for shipping back. When I needed new tires two years ago, they are sent direct to Hendrix overnight. He is very fast. The UPS, not so much. As I live in snow country, I have a very short driving season so speed is important to me.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; color: black;"> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of sbyers--- via Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 21, 2024 5:42 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> 'Healeys' <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I’m fortunate to live relatively close to Allen Hendrix at Hendrixwirewheel (about 240 miles) and he has done all my wheel and tire work for 40 years. He does the spoke truing, balancing, and shaving and, as his website says, he “takes the shake out”. For sure.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt;">I know some folks send their wheels to him for the service: <a href="http://www.hendrixwirewheel.com" target="_blank" rel="noopener">www.hendrixwirewheel.com</a></span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 11pt;">Don’t know what we’ll do when he decides to hang it up.</span></p>
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<p><strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;">From:</span></strong><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri,sans-serif;"> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <strong>On Behalf Of </strong>Michael Salter<br><strong>Sent:</strong> Saturday, December 21, 2024 3:17 PM<br><strong>To:</strong> Bob Spidell <<a href="mailto:bspidell@comcast.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">bspidell@comcast.net</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> Healeys <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] WW Balancing</span></p>
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<p>As I mentioned elsewhere what is shown is all very well for new wheels with new tyres however, in my experience, all wire wheels tend to go out of round over the years, probably because of uneven spoke tension when originally built, and once that occurs no amount of balancing will resolve things. </p>
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<p>On Sat., Dec. 21, 2024, 2:17 p.m. Bob Spidell via Healeys, <<a href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net" target="_blank" rel="noopener">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</p>
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